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Football at Four: How Do NFL Personnel Execs and Others View Eagles Offensive Scheme? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan from the Inside of the Birds podcasts, which
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  Speaker 1: you can get on all podcasting platforms, is pinch hitting
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  Speaker 1: for Jeff Mosher Today here on the Sports Bass Eagles
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for the Cowboys. We just heard from Nick
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  Speaker 1: Sirianni who spoke earlier today, and he talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a different Cowboys team from the first time
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  Speaker 1: they played him. I want to start with Adam, how
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  Speaker 1: different are the Eagles in your mind from the first
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  Speaker 1: time they played the Cowboys, because I think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to say the Cowboys are a different team.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, you got to go to defense, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: really three new players. You've got Brandon Graham, of course,
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  Speaker 2: who came out of retirement. You've got Jalen Phillips, and
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  Speaker 2: who's been nothing short of amazing. Now Nolan Smith. He
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  Speaker 2: played in the first game. But we have to remember
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  Speaker 2: that or what Diddy, I have to I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the game book in front of me from game week one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I know he got here, he re
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  Speaker 2: entered the triceps. That just don't remember if he played
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  Speaker 2: in week one. But the bottom line is what's interesting
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  Speaker 2: now is Noel Smith is a third edge BG's the
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  Speaker 2: fourth so Nolan is really not a starter right now.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see that happening. Phillips and Jalx Hunt,
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  Speaker 2: Mike know what's different. I mean, we literally could talk
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes about what's changed about their defense other than
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  Speaker 2: they're playing great right now. Jalx Hunt has made a
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  Speaker 2: major jump in the last three weeks, ironically similar to
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  Speaker 2: Noland Smith Mike last year, in the second half it
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  Speaker 2: was really right for the first half. Ended that he
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  Speaker 2: started really come on. He had a really good year
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  Speaker 2: after a really rough start. Hunt is really improved. Adding
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  Speaker 2: to Kobe Dean, who I find it hard to believe
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  Speaker 2: there's an inside backer right now playing better football. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of the most amazing stories in Mike don't forget
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  Speaker 2: back to back major injuries. First list Frank the rupture
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  Speaker 2: he had the rupture, not the spraying two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and then last year of course with the twin for
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  Speaker 2: Taeler ten and I mean, this guy's mental toughness, it's
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  Speaker 2: just remarkable. Here's some more stuff. Drew mccooba playing really
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  Speaker 2: good football right now after being inconsistent. Very few corners
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  Speaker 2: playing better than Quinnyon Mitchell right now. Well, Drey Jackson
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  Speaker 2: and Droeid Jackson got a little bit better. Mike. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't kill the Eagles last week. He held his own
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  Speaker 2: after a little bit of a rough start. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Davis is raised his level majorly. He got off
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  Speaker 2: to good start and he's been consistent more. Jones has
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  Speaker 2: been a nice story. He's been somewhat of a breakout story.
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  Speaker 2: So and the other part about it, micause johnb. Cambll's
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  Speaker 2: no longer starting like he was when Dean got back.
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  Speaker 2: Deans not played him. Who knew? So, Mike, you want
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  Speaker 2: to know what's changed. I just gave you the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you broke down a lot of good points there.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Jordan Davis made history today. He is
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  Speaker 1: the first player ever to win Special Teams Player of
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  Speaker 1: the Week in one season and Defensive Player of the Week.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was named Defensive Player of
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  Speaker 1: the Week today, and he was. When he blocked that
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  Speaker 1: field goal, he got named Special Teams Player of the week.
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  Speaker 1: So uh. Dylan Smith did play in the first game
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  Speaker 1: again to the Cowboys, by the way, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to bring up this question. I'm glad you went down
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  Speaker 1: that road. Because Jalx Hunt was essentially the guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they talked about him all off season. How much now
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  Speaker 1: having Jalen Phillips on the other side is allowing Hunt
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  Speaker 1: to kind of live freely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's actually started playing better before Phillips got there.
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  Speaker 2: But understand something it wasn't. I didn't see him as
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  Speaker 2: a break up player, I know Andrew did. I thought
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  Speaker 2: they were skipping steps with him. I thought that there
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  Speaker 2: was too much put on Jex Hunt. He got off
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  Speaker 2: to a kind of a slow start, but now you're
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  Speaker 2: starting to see what the upside is. Remember, Mike, he's
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  Speaker 2: a he was an addresser for two years in college. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: he was a safety before they had the crazy Grossburt.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of these rare stories, and he is starting
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  Speaker 2: to come on here. He's got ideal length. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at the length of Phillips and Hunt, it's a
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  Speaker 2: Hunt is jefs under sixty four, but he's got long arms.
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  Speaker 2: Phillips is six five to sixty might be more than that.
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  Speaker 2: But he's in great physical shape. And as Jeff brought
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  Speaker 2: this up on our show a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: right before Phillips, right, you've got Noel Smith through six
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  Speaker 2: two two forty five beg is I know he's listed
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  Speaker 2: a six to two. He's really notty six to one.
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  Speaker 2: I've I've stood next to up, sat with him many times.
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  Speaker 2: He's not six to two. I don't see it. And
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  Speaker 2: we're six to one and josh Ucha now he's out
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  Speaker 2: of the rotation. Mike, he's six to one. So you
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  Speaker 2: get Phillips and Hunt and I this is and they're
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  Speaker 2: so explosive, Mike, for and one more thing before we
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  Speaker 2: move on here, I don't pee. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have been asking us this question. I'm not saying they're wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but to say that they're last, could they be last
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  Speaker 2: year's defense? A lot of people think now all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden because they're playing great. Understand Mike, that was
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  Speaker 2: just an incredible defense. Last year we didn't even talk
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  Speaker 2: about Zach Bond shamb on me. You know, I played
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  Speaker 2: quite the level. Last year's still playing really, really well.
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  Speaker 2: The whole defense, Mike, right now is coming on now.
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  Speaker 2: I still worry about right corner on the weather. I
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  Speaker 2: had something to do with it, and I give you
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  Speaker 2: look Jackson after the two plays he gave up one
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  Speaker 2: before a touchdown, technically rebound him really well. He's just
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  Speaker 2: got to play well week to week. We'll we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: more about that another time or even in the second.
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  Speaker 2: But that that to me is the only one that's
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  Speaker 2: right now, the only issue I have, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: this way to start the season. Mike is right corner.
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, they've got depth. I mean, detackle biring
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  Speaker 2: Young's finance. If three ty Robinson's not ready, he's two wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It needs a lot of work. But they but Mike,
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  Speaker 2: the thing is Philip like they could. We're waiting to
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  Speaker 2: see this, and we have to ask Greco sell this.
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  Speaker 2: Are they lining up Phillips inside it all? And let
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  Speaker 2: BG may wind up doing that a little bit like
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't the pass where he sells at it. So
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  Speaker 2: they're a real good shape here, Mike. Their defense is
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  Speaker 2: good is right now. It's played the lead. But let's
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  Speaker 2: be careful of because people in this market, anyone who
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  Speaker 2: plays well it's a player, or something happens great for
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, they think it's like the best of all time, Like,
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  Speaker 2: just let the thing happen first before we project.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get your take because obviously everybody's talking
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  Speaker 1: about the offense. What's wrong with the offense? How much
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  Speaker 1: do we think there's something wrong with the offense? The weather?
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  Speaker 1: The last two games you had like big sin problems.
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  Speaker 1: Is that part of the problem here or no, there's
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  Speaker 1: problems with this offense. What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Well? No, I mean, look, the wind in the Green
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  Speaker 2: Big game was nothing like the win on Sunday night
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  Speaker 2: was bad. I mean I talked to enough people were
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  Speaker 2: there that I talked to people were on the field.
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  Speaker 2: It was bad. I mean it was bad. Now here's
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  Speaker 2: why you got to have a quarterback who's got a
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  Speaker 2: strong arm like Jalen Hurts, like Jared Goff. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the rush got to him. Let's call it like it is.
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  Speaker 2: The rush got to Him'll take nothing from Egles defense.
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  Speaker 2: They got to him. But the other thing is Hurts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he made it. He looking He overthrew Barclay on the wheel.
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  Speaker 2: They should have been touchdown but he missed him. But
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  Speaker 2: he got the ball down there. Jared Goff's not making
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  Speaker 2: that throw. You know, I'm strong on the farm. Jared
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  Speaker 2: Goff is a rhythm timing passer. He's great at when
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  Speaker 2: he's on. When he's not, you saw him frenetic. He's
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  Speaker 2: just had a bad game. Let's whether it didn't help them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would say it's fair to bring it up.
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  Speaker 2: But Mike, this is what Jeff and I from the
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  Speaker 2: people we spoke with, Jeff and I and Andrews, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we talk about it. But Jeff and I particular because
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  Speaker 2: we we look at the whole league and we talked
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  Speaker 2: to people, and I could tell you that the scheme
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  Speaker 2: from tape is not very good. It doesn't the best
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  Speaker 2: the good schemes, Mike, and this is Syrianni's scheme. It's
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  Speaker 2: five years they've run this. They've never not run it. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Kelim Moore did make some he brought in, he made
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  Speaker 2: some tweaks to it, but it was it was absolutely
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  Speaker 2: Syriana scheme. Don't get me wrong. This is back to
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  Speaker 2: totally Sirianni. It's not a great scheme off tape from
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  Speaker 2: people in the leave Le' talk with That's part of it.
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  Speaker 2: You asked the question, Mike, I'm just telling you it's
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  Speaker 2: not a great scheme. Not absolving hurts. He's got to
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  Speaker 2: play better at timing is bad. He's got to get
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  Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands. But I always say
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  Speaker 2: this about Jalen Hurts. If you want to know what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like. The lead football watched the game from
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  Speaker 2: Pitts against Pittsburgh last year. That was when he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they took the straight tracket off or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when he said that after the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what y'all want to leave.
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  Speaker 2: Mike for. People say he can't throw it inside. I
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  Speaker 2: know he doesn't like to do it that game. If
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  Speaker 2: you watch the tape, watch that tape the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: his first super Bowl where it was the best game
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  Speaker 2: of his life. He should have gotten MVP. I know
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  Speaker 2: they lost the game, but he couldn't do it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just that they've got to get him to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of football earlier, Sirian and Patulo. They've got to get
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  Speaker 2: him in a rhythm earlier. This is the same problem
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  Speaker 2: I had with Kellenmore last year. I said it way
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  Speaker 2: too much on our show last year. Sort of bother me,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not even a fan. That bothered me. The
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  Speaker 2: staffs has got to do a better job of getting
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  Speaker 2: hers out on a rhythm. There's no that that's fair criticism,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, you know Derek Gunn had the report over on
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  Speaker 1: your platform talking about this, and today Siriani said, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't put a lot of credits into that. There's
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  Speaker 1: no name on it, but I mean it's pretty damning
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  Speaker 1: to say the guy practiced in something during practice and
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  Speaker 1: they're essentially not running what they did in practice. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we practiced to throw it here here, here, here, here, Monday, Tuesday, Weday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and then Sunday you're throwing at someplace else. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty damning takes by Gunner,
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  Speaker 1: and who's a guy who is very well respected.
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  Speaker 2: He is. Look, I understand one thing because I know
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  Speaker 2: some of the our listeners and viewers on our platform
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube comments are mad at d Gunn about you know,
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  Speaker 2: he can't be right because Jordan might allow to back
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  Speaker 2: him up, said it's not true. First of all. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, no criticism of Jordan a lot. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think he's really gonna nobody knew or who where it
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  Speaker 2: came form? Even tho if you believed it, do you
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  Speaker 2: think he's going to say that out loud and various quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, people get be smarter than that. Of course
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  Speaker 2: he's not. So Look, Mike, in our reporting and everything
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  Speaker 2: we've known. We've talked about this for three years now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that Hurts doesn't run the play. If it's
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  Speaker 2: a five step drop, the ball's got to be out
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  Speaker 2: in two point two seconds. He doesn't always run the
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  Speaker 2: play like it's supposed to be run. I can't speak
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  Speaker 2: for Derek, and it's not a guy talking about I
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  Speaker 2: know what you put the shown up with Raydindrew on
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  Speaker 2: on our show, on their show that they have every week,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Bird's Weekly, it drops twice a week
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  Speaker 2: for those guys. But understand something Hurts has a processing issue.
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  Speaker 2: This is not me making it up. It's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: The tape confirms that everyone we've talked about as great
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  Speaker 2: as tape and said the same thing. He doesn't always
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  Speaker 2: throw on time. I don't know why. I can't answer that, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to coaches about this over the years. You
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  Speaker 2: can't get in someone's mind, you can't coach. I asked
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  Speaker 2: John D. Flipp with this about when he's worked with quarterbacks, Wentz,
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  Speaker 2: other quarterbacks, Carson Palmer, Caryl Prior Blue. Now, I could
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  Speaker 2: go through all the Gardner Minshew, by the way, when
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks are not processing. Well, what do you do. You
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  Speaker 2: show them, you talk about it, what we're you seeing
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  Speaker 2: on the sidelines. You can't argue, you don't get on them.
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  Speaker 2: You go over in the tape and you show them.
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  Speaker 2: But on my point, and we're all going to back
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  Speaker 2: Hurts a little bit. I'm not evolving from anything. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this now for four years on your show. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to help your quarterback, Mike, and for I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who the gun spoke to, but I I
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  Speaker 2: just know what I know. I don't really talk about
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  Speaker 2: other reporters and what they put out. I know what
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  Speaker 2: I know. We've talked our Patreon platform very strongly about
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  Speaker 2: some of the issues with the scheme over the years
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  Speaker 2: and Hurts and you know, by the way, about Sirianni
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  Speaker 2: and Hurts not they had issues two years ago when
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  Speaker 2: it Hurts regressed. So it Mike to answer your question,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna put this out there a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Until you cannot change the scheming, seasons and positive you
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  Speaker 2: can't do it. I just feel like they're going to
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  Speaker 2: need to overhaul this thing in the spring, you know that.
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  Speaker 2: I think Nick has got to bring in someone else
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  Speaker 2: or if it's going to be, if it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be Petullo still here calling the place, being involved, they've
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  Speaker 2: got to take a deeper look. This scheme needs to
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  Speaker 2: be jumped. I mean, and once Leaks first told me
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  Speaker 2: he has no idea what kind of scheme of this is.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I don't know if it's West Coast North
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  Speaker 2: Turner timing Sampeasi. He said he couldn't figure it out
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  Speaker 2: because he just doesn't think it's a very good scheme.
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  Speaker 2: And I just gave you answers to the test, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Adam Kaplin, everybody Inside the Birds podcast on all
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  Speaker 1: Adam of course stepping in today for Jeff. Thank you, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: thank you all right, Adam Kaplain from Inside the Birds
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