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328: Sister Wives Rewind - One More Woman In Kody's Life (S8 E4) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I'm Delia. I'm
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Speaker 1: the gay Beatre. That's me. We are here to talk
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Speaker 1: sister wise, honey. We are currently in a rewind season,
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Speaker 1: and specifically we are in season eight, yes, which is
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Speaker 1: a very interesting and strange season where we're ultimately going
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Speaker 1: to get to the divorce Cody and Mary and the
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Speaker 1: adoption of Robin's tenders and so I've been having fun.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this recap, we do want
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Speaker 1: to let you know that we're going to have an
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Speaker 1: after show because a little bit of conscience dropped from
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Speaker 1: none other than Mchalty Pedrone and her husband too many Tacos,
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Speaker 1: Tony Padrone. They made like a little cheeky real or
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Speaker 1: want to do takeaways?
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Speaker 2: Girl?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: Okay, this was kind of a It wasn't a nothing burger. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there were morsels here that were definitely out of bule. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I mean it was kind of boring.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this season kind of starts off slow and then
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Speaker 3: it starts picking up and then season nine is really
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Speaker 3: good and then we start getting into the cap and
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Speaker 3: more family trips that are very drama malicious. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: this episode was kind of, eh, whatever. It's centered around
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Speaker 3: a lot of moving. So this episode's entitled One More
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Speaker 3: Woman in Cody's Life because of course, Cody's gotta let
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Speaker 3: everybody know he's out numbered by all them bitches in
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Speaker 3: his life. It's just too much for one man to handle.
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Speaker 1: It's all these women in transitional phases in their life.
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Speaker 1: But all that matters is how it relates to Cody.
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Speaker 1: Exact and how he feels about it exactly.
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Speaker 3: And so this episode to me kind of stressed me
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Speaker 3: out a little with all of the moving. I've moved
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Speaker 3: around one million times in my life, and I'm just
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Speaker 3: like watching people do it just sends me back to
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Speaker 3: a police I don't even to a dark place it times.
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Speaker 3: And so we've got Michelte and who are moving out
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Speaker 3: of the house, which is great. They got an apartment together,
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Speaker 3: they're going to college or whatever. And I was kind
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Speaker 3: of bored.
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Speaker 1: By this segment.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Cody gets all sweaty and he's frustrated having
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Speaker 3: to move his daughters out of the house, and he
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Speaker 3: seems very like disconnected from the whole thing. He like
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Speaker 3: doesn't even really talk to them when he moves them out.
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Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, be good, love you bye.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing I could think about during this
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Speaker 1: entire segment was like, how much I would not want to.
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Speaker 3: Live with McKelty, Oh my god, I know.
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Speaker 1: And how different, like diametrically opposed Aspen and McKelty are.
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Speaker 1: Aspen strikes me as kind of a quiet girl organized.
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Speaker 1: She's got her hopes and her dreams, she's got goals
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Speaker 1: that she's planning for herself, and then we have McKelty
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Speaker 1: who's kind of just throwing things at the wall to
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Speaker 1: see what sticks. Yeah, and to have both of these
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Speaker 1: girls live together, and of course they've lived together in
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Speaker 1: the same house all their lives, but now in an apartment. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how this is going
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Speaker 1: to work. And I don't think if I recall correctly,
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Speaker 1: that they stay for long in the apartment, because doesn't
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Speaker 1: MCKELTI head on down to Saint George, Utah and ultimately
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Speaker 1: meet Tony Piedrome.
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Speaker 3: I think so, because in this episode they're talking about
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Speaker 3: how they're going to live with each other all through
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Speaker 3: college and probably after college, and I'm just like, I
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Speaker 3: don't think you'll do. I think you last maybe a
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Speaker 3: year here, And then mkelty's off fucking Tony and working
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Speaker 3: at the pawn shop.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, but it seems like they're hopeful
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Speaker 3: and they're happy, and I think it's fun to move
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Speaker 3: out and have your own place, especially the ripe old
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Speaker 3: age of eighteen. Like they're excited about it. But Mikelti's
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Speaker 3: got so much shit she fills up pretty much in
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Speaker 3: an entire U haul, and I'm just like, girl, why
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Speaker 3: why do you have so much crap? But then you
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Speaker 3: know you have Christine who's emotional because it's her kids
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Speaker 3: moving out, But then she's even more emotional because she's
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Speaker 3: losing out on her free help.
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Speaker 1: That's the first thing she actually says, Yes, I'm upset
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Speaker 1: that my daughters are leaving, but most of all because
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Speaker 1: there goes my help, there goes my parentified kids.
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Speaker 3: Yikes. I'm like, that's not a good look, Christine, But okay, whatever,
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Speaker 3: So they move out, Cody says goodbye, Christine says goodbye,
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Speaker 3: and we're done. Then we go back to Vegas where
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Speaker 3: we're packing up because we're gonna head out to Utah
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Speaker 3: because we're gonna go move Grandma Annie down to Vegas.
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Speaker 3: But they have to help pack up her whole house
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Speaker 3: and like load everything up. It's like a whole chaotic thing.
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Speaker 3: But while we're back in Vegas figuring out the logistics,
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Speaker 3: we have Cody and Christine and Mary fighting about cars
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Speaker 3: and how many cars they need to take up to Utah,
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Speaker 3: and you know, whether it makes sense to have extra
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Speaker 3: cars or less cars, and.
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Speaker 1: It's just chaotic pandemonium. It's tall the time. And he's
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Speaker 1: also very rude when he's speaking to Mary and Christine. Yes,
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Speaker 1: like he's he's like, can you guys just hear what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying and then do it and then let me leave. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't even he doesn't want to have a conversation
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Speaker 1: with either of these women. He doesn't want to be
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Speaker 1: in the same room with them, and he just storms out.
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Speaker 1: And then Mary and Christine both agree what I think
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Speaker 1: having more cars is better? Actually, so fuck Cody. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and they take more cars.
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Speaker 3: They do. It's kind of ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: It does it matter? I don't know, We're not driving
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Speaker 1: all six cars.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. I think
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Speaker 3: he was just like stressing out about all of it
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Speaker 3: and then having to move his daughters out like the
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Speaker 3: week prior. Like I can understand it from a perspective
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Speaker 3: of like, this is a lot. It's it's overwhelming to
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Speaker 3: move everybody on your own as well and then have
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Speaker 3: to go do it again the next week. But this
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Speaker 3: is the life you chose, this is Polygaby, You're gonna
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Speaker 3: have to deal with it.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: So crime me a river, you know. But while we're
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Speaker 3: in Vegas, we have this kind of interesting conversation between
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Speaker 3: the adults, Like on the couch, we're talking about like
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Speaker 3: moving Annie in, what that will mean, how it'll shift
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Speaker 3: the dynamic. It's one more woman for Cody to have
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Speaker 3: to deal with, Oh my gosh. But Christine is thankful
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Speaker 3: to have her mom be there with her to support
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Speaker 3: and also help her with her kids, which is interesting.
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Speaker 3: And then this, you know, prompts a discussion between the
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Speaker 3: lives the sister wives and like raising children and being
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Speaker 3: there together. So when it was the three of them, Christine,
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Speaker 3: Mary and Janelle and Lehi, they all worked together to
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Speaker 3: raise each other's kids because they had one thousand children
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Speaker 3: all at the same time and they needed to all
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Speaker 3: work together. But now that they're in Vegas and we
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Speaker 3: have Robin in the mix, they're all pretty separate. And
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Speaker 3: for Christine that's a pain point because part of the
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Speaker 3: reason why she wanted to be in polygamy and be
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Speaker 3: a sister wife is she wanted to be a mom
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Speaker 3: to all of the kids. She wanted to be involved,
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Speaker 3: she wanted to develop that sister wife relationship where they're
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Speaker 3: all raising everybody together. And this is where Christine calls
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Speaker 3: Robin out on the book and couch and Robin looks
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Speaker 3: blindsided because at this point in time in Vegas, Robin
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Speaker 3: has enlisted or hired her niece Mindy to be a
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Speaker 3: babysitter to her kids. And Christine calls Robin out and says,
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Speaker 3: you know, I was pretty hurt by that. I felt
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Speaker 3: offended that you didn't trust me to at least take
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Speaker 3: care of your children. And Robin is like.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Right now? She actually says something
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Speaker 1: like that, are you serious right now?
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Speaker 3: Like are you for real?
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Speaker 1: And Christine's like, I'm absolutely serious. I was hoping that
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Speaker 1: we were going to be able to get into the
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Speaker 1: call de sac. We're supposed to be close to each other. Now,
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Speaker 1: our families are going to be intermingling again, and I
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Speaker 1: was hoping I would have some sort of a role
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Speaker 1: in your children's lives, and that's what I really want.
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Speaker 1: And Robin doesn't know what to say, because Robin is
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Speaker 1: at this time icing out Christine, totally icing out Janelle,
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Speaker 1: and she's in her own mansion just fucking Cody twenty
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Speaker 1: four to seven, and that's the way she wants it, honey.
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Speaker 3: And it's crazy to me because I didn't realize she
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Speaker 3: had hired a babysitter so early on, but it really
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Speaker 3: is right from the beginning, and it doesn't really make sense.
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Speaker 3: Like Christine and Janelle have more kids than Robin at
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Speaker 3: this point, and they don't have a babysitter. They're not
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Speaker 3: paying anybody to take care.
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Speaker 1: They never had money though, and now the family has money, but.
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Speaker 3: It just it still doesn't make any sense when you
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Speaker 3: have all these other women around that can actually help,
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Speaker 3: and you have Mary who's an empty nester.
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Speaker 1: And wants to be more present in the lives of
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Speaker 1: the young children. She says that on the couch as well. Exactly,
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Speaker 1: she's crying. She is, but she's alone in her mansion. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: then her imagine crying.
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Speaker 3: But okay, Robin's gonna have a babysitter, and she doesn't
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Speaker 3: want the other wives to raise their kids. Weird.
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Speaker 1: Her excuse is that she's working, right, I'm like a
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Speaker 1: business woman. I have this business called my sister Wife's Closet,
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Speaker 1: and we're all busy. What they're busy with is filming,
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Speaker 1: though they're not actually busy with the website, right, and
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Speaker 1: so it doesn't make sense to me.
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Speaker 3: And Robin also says, you know, well, I know the
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Speaker 3: other wives are working too, and we're all working the
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Speaker 3: same hours, so they can't watch my kids, so I
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Speaker 3: have to have a babysitter. And I'm like, okay, by
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Speaker 3: that logic, then who's watching the other kids? Like, girl,
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Speaker 3: you don't make any sense. I just loved Robin being
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Speaker 3: blindsided in this moment, and I loved that she seemed
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Speaker 3: genuinely unprepared to answer this question, and it seemed like
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Speaker 3: her and Cody were kind of pissed at Christine for
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Speaker 3: bringing it up, but now knowing what we know now,
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Speaker 3: like Christine had to bring it up at this point
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Speaker 3: in time because they weren't talking to each other after filming,
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Speaker 3: like they were all living in their separate houses. They
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Speaker 3: were all like doing their own thing. So when was
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Speaker 3: she going to bring it up? Mm hmmm, better do
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Speaker 3: it on TV where.
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Speaker 1: She's not going to be shut down immediately by coactly exactly.
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Speaker 3: So that was pretty juicy. And then we go back
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Speaker 3: to moving Annie in and this was like the book
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Speaker 3: of the episode. So we head up to Utah. Annie
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Speaker 3: is in her house. She's got some of her stuff packed,
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Speaker 3: but you know, she's a grandma and she likes to craft,
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Speaker 3: and she's got a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of shit in banana boxes, so much shit, so much
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Speaker 1: it gave me anxiety.
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Speaker 3: I know, it's way too fucking much.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna bring that into my home? If I'm Christine,
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Speaker 1: Where am I gonna put all your shit?
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Speaker 3: Girl?
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Speaker 1: Going in a storage unit?
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Speaker 3: Christine says that her mom used to like make purses
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Speaker 3: and bags and stuff like that and sell them at
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Speaker 3: farmers markets, and so that's why she has so much
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Speaker 3: crap in her basement, and now that she's going to
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Speaker 3: be moving in with Christine, she's going to be picking
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Speaker 3: that up again. And I'm like, where is she going
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Speaker 3: to use like Michelt's old room as a storage unit.
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Speaker 1: Well, she's getting the family room whatever that is. So
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Speaker 1: she's like in a loft bedroom with a family room extension.
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Speaker 1: She'll have a lot of space I guess to put
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Speaker 1: all of her crap. I guess.
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Speaker 3: But God bless, I'm not trying to rag on Annie,
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Speaker 3: because honestly, Annie is so pleasant.
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Speaker 2: And so sweet.
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Speaker 3: I actually really liked hearing from her in this episode because,
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Speaker 3: you know, as the family is packing everything up and
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Speaker 3: figuring out, you know, how to load the U haul
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Speaker 3: and whatnot, we hear more about Annie and her story,
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Speaker 3: which to a lot of you is gonna be old
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Speaker 3: news because we've heard it a time or two before.
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Speaker 3: But Annie grew up in polygamy. She had the lightning
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Speaker 3: bowl in her bosom or whenever I was fourteen years
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Speaker 3: old that she was going to marry this guy and
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Speaker 3: she didn't even like him. And she says that in
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Speaker 3: the episode, She's like, I knew I had to marry him,
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Speaker 3: but I wasn't really into him. So I knew I
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Speaker 3: had to force myself to be in love because that's
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Speaker 3: what God told me I needed to do. And I
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Speaker 3: think they were married eleven years or something before.
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Speaker 1: She got married at seventeen, she was six months pregnant
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Speaker 1: when she graduated high school.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't want the girl you were fucking
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Speaker 3: before you were married. Isn't that bad?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, isn't that? But she was the first wife, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so she was the legal wife yep. And they were
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Speaker 1: married for eleven years before he introduced the second wife,
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Speaker 1: And as soon as they got back from their honeymoon,
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Speaker 1: she said things went downhill instantly.
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Speaker 3: Yikes. And so once he courts and marries the second wife,
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Speaker 3: she became even more unhappy and she had a defining moment.
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Speaker 3: I don't think she really articulated what the moment was,
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Speaker 3: but she had a moment in her past where she realized,
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Speaker 3: I'm not happy, I need to.
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Speaker 1: Leave, and I don't believe this anymore.
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Speaker 3: I don't lost her faith yep. And so then ultimately
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Speaker 3: she divorced Christine's dad when she was five years old.
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Speaker 3: And this not now five years old.
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Speaker 1: Christine was five when the second mom came into the family.
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Speaker 1: Christine I think was eighteen or so when Annie left
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Speaker 1: the family.
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Speaker 3: Correct, sorry IM spoke there, but yeah, So when Annie
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Speaker 3: left her husband, Christine's dad, Christine obviously was devastated. Her
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Speaker 3: whole worldview was shattered, and she was hurt because, you know,
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Speaker 3: she was brought up in this faith and brought up
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Speaker 3: a particular way, and to have her mom, you know,
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Speaker 3: ultimately break all of that was earth shattering. So Christine
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Speaker 3: was upset with her mom for a little while, but
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Speaker 3: then she ultimately, I don't know, like their relationship was
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Speaker 3: very I don't want to say rocky.
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Speaker 1: Well it was rocky because it sounds like almost immediately
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Speaker 1: Annie ends up in some sort of anti polygamy group,
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Speaker 1: it turns into an anti polygamy group. I think it
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Speaker 1: starts out as a support system for people leaving polygamy
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Speaker 1: who need help and resources, and so Annie wanted to
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Speaker 1: be a part of that, but it kind of turned
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Speaker 1: into this anti lobbying group to get rid of polygamy,
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Speaker 1: and as far as Cody and Christine are concerned, like
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Speaker 1: attack polygamist families. So at some point, both Christine and
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Speaker 1: Cody get really scared because Annie is affiliated with this group,
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Speaker 1: and obviously they're a polygamous family. And so this is
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons according to Cody, who I don't
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Speaker 1: believe anything he says, but according to Cody, this is
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they end up ultimately leaving
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Speaker 1: Utah at some point, which we know that whole story
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Speaker 1: and don't need to go over it. And then Christine
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Speaker 1: goes no contact with her mother. Yeah, and it sounds
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Speaker 1: like Christine goes no contact with her mother without like
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Speaker 1: a conversation, because after six months it's Mama Cheryl, I think, right,
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Speaker 1: So Janelle's mother who tells both Cody and Christine like,
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Speaker 1: you should not go no contact with Annie. She's a
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Speaker 1: good woman, she loves you, she loves your family, and
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Speaker 1: so Cody and Christine drive back to see Annie. They
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Speaker 1: have a conversation and realize, oh, Annie actually left that
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Speaker 1: organization that turned anti polygamy as soon as they went
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Speaker 1: that way. Yes, so they didn't even bother to ask.
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Speaker 1: They didn't have a conversation. And I really put that
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Speaker 1: mostly on Christine, like, you didn't have a conversation with
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Speaker 1: this family member that's closed, And she did kind of
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Speaker 1: the same thing with her aunt. She very much vilified
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Speaker 1: the aunt who was speaking out against polygamy. And there's
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Speaker 1: just these parts of Christine that really bother me because
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Speaker 1: they're callous and they're kind of cruel. But thankfully they
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Speaker 1: all got over it. Annie explained, I don't support that love.
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Speaker 1: I have so many polygamists that I love in my family.
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Speaker 1: I support them and I love you. And then they
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Speaker 1: re established their relationship.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but it was a period of really hard times
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Speaker 3: for Annie and Christine. And then Christine talks about her
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Speaker 3: wedding to Cody and how Annie was always supportive of
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Speaker 3: Cody as a person, and you know, Christine marrying him,
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Speaker 3: but she ultimately didn't go to their wedding ceremony, and
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Speaker 3: Christine kind of frames this as like Annie made a
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Speaker 3: statement of like, I'm not going to go to the
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Speaker 3: wedding ceremony. But from my understanding, those ceremonies are religious
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Speaker 3: in nature, they're spiritual, and like I feel like.
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Speaker 1: They're closed off too, they're exclusive.
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Speaker 3: I feel like if Annie had left that part of
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Speaker 3: the faith, like she wouldn't really even be allowed to
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Speaker 3: be in the ceremony. But I don't know. Obviously, it
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Speaker 3: hurt Christine to not have her mom there. Her mom
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Speaker 3: made her wedding dress, which was god awful but ic iconic,
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Speaker 3: and so you know, this is a defining moment in
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Speaker 3: Christine and Annie's relationship. And at this point, flash flash
18:23
Speaker 3: forward to moving Annie back in. You know, we know
18:27
Speaker 3: all of this, this is all happened in the past.
18:30
Speaker 3: You know, Christine is not, I don't want to say,
18:33
Speaker 3: like wary of having her mom be moving into her house,
18:36
Speaker 3: but like she's just a little.
18:38
Speaker 1: Like concerned Guardianah, she doesn't know what's really going to happen. Yeah,
18:41
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. There seemed to be
18:44
Speaker 1: a very melancholic vibration in the house. And after reading
18:50
Speaker 1: Christine's most recent book, which by the way, we cover
18:52
Speaker 1: on Patreon. We have like four installments. Actually reading through
18:54
Speaker 1: the book, she does talk about Annie leaving her father,
18:59
Speaker 1: leaving the face, and ultimately taking up with a gentleman,
19:02
Speaker 1: and I think marrying that man who then passes away.
19:06
Speaker 1: It kind of felt to me like he had just
19:08
Speaker 1: passed away in the filming of this episode, like recently,
19:12
Speaker 1: like this was a house that maybe she shared with him,
19:15
Speaker 1: and now she had to make new plans for herself,
19:17
Speaker 1: and that was one of the reasons that she was leaving.
19:19
Speaker 1: Did you get that vibe?
19:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of got that vibe. And I kind
19:22
Speaker 3: of got the vibe too that maybe Annie and Christine
19:25
Speaker 3: were talking a little bit about her relationship with Cody,
19:29
Speaker 3: because we know at this point Christine is not happy
19:32
Speaker 3: in this marriage whatsoever, no matter what she is portraying
19:35
Speaker 3: in these earlier seasons, like their marriage is bad right now,
19:39
Speaker 3: and so I'm kind of wondering if Christine has maybe
19:42
Speaker 3: talked to Annie just a little bit about some of
19:44
Speaker 3: the things that she's struggling with. And Annie might be
19:47
Speaker 3: really sad for her because she went through maybe similar circumstances.
19:53
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's maybe it's a combination
19:55
Speaker 3: of both. If her husband did pass recently at point, like,
20:00
Speaker 3: I'm curious why they're not even really talking about it
20:03
Speaker 3: me too. Seems kind of odd to me, but I
20:07
Speaker 3: don't know. This whole thing made me be my feels
20:10
Speaker 3: a bit. It made me be my feels for my
20:11
Speaker 3: own relationship with my mom that has been rocky at best,
20:16
Speaker 3: and I've been dealing with it and I've been working
20:19
Speaker 3: on it my entire life, you know. So I just
20:22
Speaker 3: I think it's really sweet that through all of the
20:25
Speaker 3: trials that Christine and Annie have been through, like they're
20:28
Speaker 3: able to come to this point where she can move
20:30
Speaker 3: in and be involved in her kids's lives and be
20:34
Speaker 3: a part of the family in this way. I think
20:36
Speaker 3: it's really lovely and sweet.
20:37
Speaker 1: I think so as well. And of course it made
20:39
Speaker 1: me think of like when I moved my mom in.
20:41
Speaker 1: She was pretty young. I think she was shoot fifty three. Dang, yeah,
20:46
Speaker 1: she was very young, but she needed a place to
20:49
Speaker 1: stay and she had had a health issue, and so
20:52
Speaker 1: we moved her from Hawaii to Chicago, and she was
20:55
Speaker 1: with me for ten or fifteen years for quite some time,
21:00
Speaker 1: and it's a huge transition for mother and for daughters.
21:03
Speaker 1: So I think that's definitely in the air as far
21:06
Speaker 1: as Christine is concerned and Annie, and it's going to
21:09
Speaker 1: be strange living in the same house again with your child,
21:12
Speaker 1: But the power dynamics have switched because now Christine is
21:16
Speaker 1: making the bigger bucks. Christine has got the established family.
21:20
Speaker 1: You're going to be living under her roof, and so
21:22
Speaker 1: you're going to have to figure out how you're going
21:24
Speaker 1: to do that dance. I really liked hearing from Annie.
21:28
Speaker 1: I liked seeing how she interacted with Cody meeting though
21:32
Speaker 1: we don't really like Cody, but she was playful, you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: and she it was a friendship, is how it felt.
21:38
Speaker 1: And he played with her too, And I just I
21:41
Speaker 1: don't know. The whole family coming up to Utah. You've
21:44
Speaker 1: got Hunter, You've got Gay, You've got the girls and
21:48
Speaker 1: the littles and the olders, and you've got Mary. It
21:50
Speaker 1: was just nice to see all of these folks, this
21:54
Speaker 1: family coming to be around her, be with her, and
21:58
Speaker 1: to help her make this transition. I was in my
22:00
Speaker 1: fields too. I had some tearballs. We love Annie. Where
22:04
Speaker 1: is Annie now? I don't know, because we saw her
22:07
Speaker 1: during the wedding special. She was there, but I don't
22:10
Speaker 1: know where she lives it's not with Christine. Yeah, I
22:13
Speaker 1: was wondering what's going on with Annie.
22:15
Speaker 3: I wonder if Christine lives near her now, if maybe
22:17
Speaker 3: they're all back in Utah, because it doesn't, I mean,
22:20
Speaker 3: nobody stayed in Vegas, so I don't know what really
22:24
Speaker 3: happened or like when Annie ended up moving out.
22:27
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Maybe we'll see that, maybe maybe
22:29
Speaker 1: that happens on the show. I don't know.
22:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, apologies if we don't know the details, and you
22:34
Speaker 3: guys do, so let us know on the comments below.
22:36
Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought it was really cool to see
22:38
Speaker 3: Annie just interact with everybody. I actually really liked her
22:41
Speaker 3: interactions with Cody, and I actually didn't mind Cody interacting
22:45
Speaker 3: with her. I saw a Reddit post just the other
22:49
Speaker 3: day when I was watching this episode from a while
22:52
Speaker 3: back of somebody saying, like, I really like this version
22:54
Speaker 3: of Cody and it was in this episode, and Cody
22:57
Speaker 3: was very sweet. I thought he was really respectful of
23:01
Speaker 3: Annie and all of her shit, and like when they
23:04
Speaker 3: get everything packed up in the U haul, Annie is
23:07
Speaker 3: a bit solemn and sad, and like the family notices that,
23:11
Speaker 3: and Cody in particular notices that, and he's like being
23:15
Speaker 3: kind of supportive of her, and he gives her a
23:17
Speaker 3: hug and he's like, I know, it's a big transition,
23:19
Speaker 3: you know, take all the time that you need, like
23:21
Speaker 3: we're here for you, Like, let's hold this space for
23:24
Speaker 3: you to mourn this life that you had in this house.
23:28
Speaker 3: And I thought that was just a really interesting thing
23:31
Speaker 3: to see from Cody Brown because he's turned into such
23:33
Speaker 3: a piece of shit, right and I don't know.
23:36
Speaker 1: Well, he was acting like you would want a father
23:39
Speaker 1: and a husband and a true patriarch to act. He's
23:42
Speaker 1: going to protect you. He's extending his protection to you
23:45
Speaker 1: now and he's taking you into the fold and he's
23:47
Speaker 1: going to take care of you. Yeah, so I like
23:49
Speaker 1: that as well.
23:50
Speaker 3: I liked it too, and like it's just such a
23:52
Speaker 3: rare sight to see that little bit of stoicism from
23:55
Speaker 3: Cody because he's always just so like chaotic. And even
23:58
Speaker 3: Annie comments about that in the episode, like Cody's always
24:01
Speaker 3: like all over the place. At one point, she had
24:04
Speaker 3: tried to grab him from the shoulders and was like,
24:07
Speaker 3: look at me, Cody, Like just chill out for a second.
24:09
Speaker 3: You don't need to be everywhere all at once. Just
24:12
Speaker 3: come back to this point right here, And it was
24:14
Speaker 3: even difficult for Cody to do that because there's so
24:16
Speaker 3: much on his mind right now. At this point, I
24:20
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting too, how like Robin was was
24:24
Speaker 3: she there?
24:25
Speaker 1: She was there.
24:25
Speaker 3: I didn't even see her do an.
24:27
Speaker 1: She helped Christine in the basement. Remember they were carrying
24:30
Speaker 1: some piece, so she carried up and she was talking
24:32
Speaker 1: about how she had told her mother, the adulterous Alice,
24:37
Speaker 1: right Alice, that Annie was going to be moving into
24:40
Speaker 1: Christine's home and Alice, who is with Robin's stepfather, and
24:46
Speaker 1: I don't know what that situation is like at this time,
24:48
Speaker 1: presumably living full time together or at least part time together.
24:51
Speaker 1: Alice's first thought was of herself, yeah, and said something like, well,
24:55
Speaker 1: how come you never asked me to move in with you?
24:58
Speaker 1: And so we have Christine and Rob but in the
25:00
Speaker 1: basement and kind of a nice little interchange where Robin
25:03
Speaker 1: is sharing that with Christine and Christine's laughing. That's right.
25:07
Speaker 3: That was the only part that she was involved in. Really. Well.
25:09
Speaker 1: She did show up though, and she brought her kids,
25:11
Speaker 1: and Dayton was there and they were calling stuff and
25:14
Speaker 1: she was helpful.
25:15
Speaker 3: So again why do we need the babysitter though, if
25:17
Speaker 3: your kids are with you. But whatever, it's it's fine.
25:20
Speaker 3: And we forgot to mention, like when everybody was up there,
25:24
Speaker 3: Janelle's the only one that stayed back, and she had Savannah,
25:27
Speaker 3: and then she also had Truly, who's only like four
25:31
Speaker 3: years old at this period of time. And Janelle had
25:33
Speaker 3: mentioned in this episode how she was intimidated by having
25:37
Speaker 3: these two littles with her, and I'm just like, girl, what.
25:40
Speaker 1: Well, because Christine took care of all of her children,
25:43
Speaker 1: all of her little children except for Savannah, I'm just like,
25:45
Speaker 1: chill out, well, and Truly is a handful. Can we
25:48
Speaker 1: just be real, right?
25:49
Speaker 3: I guess.
25:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a little bit of a chaotic and a
25:52
Speaker 1: ty herself. She's four years old though, I know, but
25:56
Speaker 1: Janelle's not used to it. No, Janelle's got her rhythms, Renelle.
26:00
Speaker 1: Janelle's a Taurus. Yeahanelle's got her own situation going. So
26:03
Speaker 1: inviting Truly, this free radical into her organized life, I'm
26:08
Speaker 1: sure is a lot for her, but she's also looking
26:10
Speaker 1: forward to it because Truly brings a lot of joy
26:13
Speaker 1: with her as well.
26:13
Speaker 3: Truly's fucking cute. I mean, every time I see her,
26:16
Speaker 3: I'm just.
26:16
Speaker 1: Like her and Solomon on the couch and it's just
26:20
Speaker 1: like a musubie, so adorable.
26:23
Speaker 3: He's so chubby and sweet.
26:25
Speaker 2: I'll might leave it there. I'll leave it there. So yeah,
26:30
Speaker 2: I mean that was the bulk of the episode, was
26:32
Speaker 2: just a moving Annie out of her house and down
26:35
Speaker 2: to Vegas, and.
26:36
Speaker 3: That's about it. It was sweet to see Annie and
26:39
Speaker 3: Christine like embrace at the end of it when they're
26:42
Speaker 3: like leaving her house and stuff, and they're both you know,
26:45
Speaker 3: they both got tearballs in their eyes, and it's kind
26:48
Speaker 3: of a bittersweet moment because you know, Annie leaves her
26:51
Speaker 3: home that she's been in for however many years, and
26:54
Speaker 3: she's going in, like you said, changing the power dynamics
26:57
Speaker 3: between her and Christine and also in the family. We
27:00
Speaker 3: had a few conversations in this episode. In last week's
27:04
Speaker 3: episode of how Christine talked to Annie about staying in
27:07
Speaker 3: her place. You know, don't get involved in me and
27:09
Speaker 3: Cody's arguments because we fight all the fucking time, right,
27:13
Speaker 3: don't take my side all the time, right, Like, just
27:16
Speaker 3: stay back, And it would be interesting to see if
27:19
Speaker 3: we get more scenes with them. I don't think we do.
27:22
Speaker 1: I think Annie is really in the background, yeah, all
27:25
Speaker 1: the time, taking care of the kids. But when you
27:27
Speaker 1: read Christine's book, you learn that Annie was actually tactfully
27:33
Speaker 1: counseling Christine because Christine was about to do exactly what
27:38
Speaker 1: Annie had to do so many decades and years earlier,
27:42
Speaker 1: and Christine was going to lose her faith too, and
27:44
Speaker 1: so Annie was at least present during those movements in
27:48
Speaker 1: Christine's understanding and awareness and ultimate decision to dump that loser.
27:53
Speaker 3: And talk about divine timing, you know, and like how
27:55
Speaker 3: the circle comes, how it all comes full circle, Like Anne,
28:00
Speaker 3: Annie does this thing that completely shatters Christine's worldview and
28:05
Speaker 3: her perspective on love and perspective on her faith and everything.
28:09
Speaker 3: But then she goes balls to the wall back into
28:11
Speaker 3: the fundamentalist faith, lives the same thing that Annie did,
28:16
Speaker 3: and then ultimately does the same thing. It's just it's cool.
28:18
Speaker 1: But I mean, maybe they chose each other as souls
28:22
Speaker 1: because Annie could model to Christine what was possible to
28:27
Speaker 1: get herself out of that situation. Without Annie having showed
28:30
Speaker 1: her that it could be possible, would Christine have done it?
28:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point. Would she have had the courage to
28:36
Speaker 3: do it. Yes, And so then we get the preview
28:38
Speaker 3: for next week's episode, and this is where we have
28:42
Speaker 3: those anthropology students coming to live with the Browns for
28:46
Speaker 3: a few days and study them, which I do remember
28:48
Speaker 3: these episodes. These are really fucking good. Really why because
28:52
Speaker 3: they're just like calling them out on their dynamic. And
28:55
Speaker 3: you have a preview this week of one of the students,
28:58
Speaker 3: you know, talking about polygamy and you know, asking the
29:02
Speaker 3: question of like who's the love wife, who's the sex wife,
29:05
Speaker 3: who's the money wife? Right, And they do kind of
29:08
Speaker 3: bring that up a little bit, if I remember correctly,
29:11
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that.
29:13
Speaker 1: No wonder, Robin looks angry on the couch when they're
29:16
Speaker 1: talking about the students being there.
29:18
Speaker 3: That's why, because she's the love and the sex, she's the.
29:21
Speaker 1: Wife and the money wife and the money way. Come on,
29:23
Speaker 1: she's the everything way.
29:24
Speaker 3: Yes. And then we have Mattie, who has been out
29:28
Speaker 3: on her own for a while and probably dating and
29:32
Speaker 3: fucking Caleb at this point in time, I mean in
29:36
Speaker 3: the timeline. And we have Maddie in the preview talking
29:38
Speaker 3: about how she wants to join the LDS Mormon Church,
29:42
Speaker 3: and Janelle surprisingly is not really into it. She's like
29:47
Speaker 3: hesitant because she's worried that Maddie is going to pull
29:50
Speaker 3: away from the family, which I can understand from like
29:53
Speaker 3: this fundamentalist point of view, because you know, the LDS
29:56
Speaker 3: Mormon Church does not want to be affiliated with any
30:00
Speaker 3: polygamists whatsoever. Like we had just heard from last week,
30:04
Speaker 3: the Colliers were ex communicado from the LDS Church because
30:08
Speaker 3: they were a bunch of degenerates. So Jane's a little worried,
30:11
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll see how that plays out. Is
30:14
Speaker 3: obviously going to be.
30:15
Speaker 1: Fine, well it is, I mean, but their Mormon church
30:18
Speaker 1: is going to turn Mattie away, if I recall correctly,
30:20
Speaker 1: they are going to deny her, oh God, to join.
30:24
Speaker 3: The church because she's a child's degenerates.
30:28
Speaker 1: Well she's a child of polygynya I guess, or her
30:31
Speaker 1: family is as pronounced as they are. Yeah, yes, Well
30:38
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30:42
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30:46
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30:51
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