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Vikings talk with Dane Mizutani, Bill Bender on College Football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2 Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network,
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welcome back. Glad you're with us.
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We take you until 2:00 off the bench.
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Sean Roberts, Lucas Strain from 2:00 until 5.
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Still to come this hour, Bill Bender covers college football
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for the Sporting News trends, plays of the day, circus sports
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sponsor, those Let's head north, twincities.com, Saint Paul
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Pioneer Press, Dane Mazatani, our guy on the Vikings.
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He joins us as we check in on training camp.
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Dane and Ken, thank you for finding time for us as always.
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I guess we got to get right to the quarterback position.
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I was going to save this one for Trent, so I will.
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I'm going to ask you about Max Brosmer, and I'll save the layup
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for Trent because I'm hearing a lot of good things and when.
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But Trent and I both, as you know, where we're located, Big
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12, Big 10, move the needle here.
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And we see a lot of the Gophers and etcetera.
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And Brosberg never struck either of us as a guy that's going to
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play ultimately in the NFL. Well, maybe, just maybe he may
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get his opportunity. Is there a chance he's JJ
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McCarthy's backup quarterback after camp?
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Yes and no Honestly, I think I would still be pretty surprised
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if you use QB two in a couple of weeks here, but I think what's
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absolutely worth talking about is that he's going to make the
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53. I would be pretty shocked at
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this point if he doesn't make the team just because of the
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training camp he's put together and the film he's gone in the
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preseason game. The kid is extremely smart and I
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know you guys you just said didn't really think maybe he
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he'd be a guy who's reaching the NFL level.
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I I feel the same way. I graduated from the University
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of Minnesota. I watched him a bunch of times
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last year with fan glasses and I, I, I thought I saw an NFL
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quarterback. But I think what you've learned
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about Max Brozmer is that his brain is just a little bit
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different. And I apologize.
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We are in like a air strip on the practice field, so you might
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hear planes in the background. But with Max Brozmer, he, he
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just thinks the game differently.
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He's able to intake a lot of information and apply it.
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And I think that's maybe the biggest thing to have it you're
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you're jockeying for position to be somebody's backup.
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Because the truth is in the NFL, to be a backup quarterback, you
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have to be able to intake knowledge without getting all
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the reps the starter is going to get all that.
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Well, Max Brosmer has proven capable of that so far.
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Now when he's gotten an opportunity, I think he's just
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gone out there and and done his thing during the game.
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So I think it'd be too risky to cut him.
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I could sitting here in two weeks wrong and then he could be
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put on waivers, pass through and be on the practice squad.
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But I I think he's been too good right now to to take that risk.
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Let's go to the layoff question though.
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Let's go to JJ McCarthy. Ken and I, Dane, we've told you
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this has been our back and forth argument going back to the
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spring of what McCarthy is going to be at times.
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It depends on what algorithm you're on.
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You can get a lot of really good stuff on JJ McCarthy.
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You're really bad depending on where you are on social media.
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Just give us an overview kind of where you are right now and what
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you've seen out of McCarthy when you kind of all encompass
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everything together. Yeah, I think it's been an up
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and down camp and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
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I think that's expected out of a 22 year old kind of getting back
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on the field and oh, by the way, having to go up against the
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Bryan Flores defense for all of training camp.
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I think inherently that's going to create some really high
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moments and some really low moments.
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And I think we've seen kind of the full gambit from JJ McCarthy
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throughout training camp. But what I will say is you've
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seen consistent growth from him and you've seen a confidence in
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the command of the offense that I think is encouraging as you
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push forward here and to being prepped for Week 1 against the
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Chicago Bears. I point to last week's practice
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or going practices with the New England Patriots, probably his
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biggest growth moment. He talked about how he game
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planned for the practice, the practices in his head.
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He said he went back and he watched the Patriots pre season
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film. He watched some of old Mike
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Rabel film from when he was with the Tennessee Titans and he took
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that into day one of joint practices with him and he said
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it looked completely different when I was out on the field.
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Well, then they took what he put on film during day one of joint
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practices and JJ McCarthy and Kevin O'Connell kind of put
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together a game plan for day 2 of doing practices and it might
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have been his best performance of training.
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So I think what that tells me is 1 studious 2, he's able to kind
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of learn a game plan on the fly and make adjustments and then go
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out and perform on the field. I think all of that or that
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moment in time is more important than, you know, the interception
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that'll get clipped and and circulated on, on Twitter.
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It's practice. Interceptions happen, by the
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way, for, believe it or not, Tom Brady through interceptions into
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practice too. So I think in the social media
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world, you'll see a long touchdown and say he's going to
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be the greatest quarterback of all time, and you'll see an
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interception and you'll say this guy's a boss.
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The truth is probably more in the middle ground of that.
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I think we'll see highs and lows from JJ McCarthy this season,
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but I think he's going to be the QB in Minnesota for a long time,
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so. I was surprised he didn't play
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in Week 2 again, the game against doing that.
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I know he practiced again, so maybe that was a part and parcel
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as to the reason why I played a couple of series, maybe only
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one, against Houston. What will the plan be against
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Tennessee? And why did O'Connell hold him
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out this past week against New England?
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Yeah, he he won't play against Tennessee.
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I don't think anyone will play against Tennessee aside from
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maybe the 50th through the 90th. Man on the roster just trying to
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compete for spots. Kevin O'Connell just doesn't
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care about the preseason. He really doesn't.
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I think he looks at it as an opportunity to evaluate the back
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end of the roster while also making sure you protect the
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front end of the roster. And so yes, he played a series
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or JJ McCarthy played a series in the week one of the preseason
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against the Houston Texans, but he played 12 plays and they got
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him out of there. I think This is why Kevin
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O'Connell is so into the idea of going practices, because you
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just have more of a controlled feel.
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It's not live bullets. It's not potentially getting a
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guy rolled up on on after the whistle.
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It's just more controllable variable.
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And that's why he likes going practices.
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I I don't think you'll see AJ McCarthy really at any point if
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he is who they think they could be, who they can see can be.
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I don't know if you'll see JJ McCarthy in the preseason ever
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again, because I just really doesn't take too much stock in
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in what happens on the field in those exhibition games.
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Another thing is, well, he doesn't want to get JJ McCarthy
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hurt, but he also doesn't want to get any of his starters on
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offense hurt. So if you played JJ McCarthy
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well, then you better play all the other starters to get a real
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evaluation of them. And he just doesn't want to do
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that. So it's just kind of by case, by
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case. I think some coaches still see
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value in the preseason. Kevin O'Connell does not.
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Let's go to wide receiver. As we know at the beginning of
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the year for three games, Jordan Addison will not be there.
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Jaylen Naylor, think we've seen enough out of him.
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He's fine. He's confident.
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What about some of the young guys?
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Ty Felton comes in after being drafted in the third round.
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Some of the other players that have come in, when you take a
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look after Addison, of course, JJ at the top of that list and
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then Naylor, who's kind of positioning themselves in maybe
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spots 4 through 6 at wide receiver.
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That's a good question. I wish I had a more definitive
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answer and I don't because that is so up in the air still.
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I think Ty Felton is going to make the team because he was a
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third round pick. But I Ty Felton contributing
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more on special teams than offense right away.
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I think he's a project on offense.
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I think he's got the top end speed that you want.
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He's got the ability to make people miss.
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But I think the route running, that's something that's going to
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come gradually over time. So you'll see Ty Pelton here and
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there on offense this year. I don't think he's going to come
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in here and and make an immediate impact.
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You have other guys like Lucky Jackson.
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He was the guy who's been around now for three or four years.
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He's probably positioned himself to make the team.
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But you don't have a guy that's really just separated.
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Adam Thielen is like the easy reference.
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You don't have an Adam Thielen who comes in here as a as a no
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name guy and forces the issue and forces way onto the team.
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It's been a lot of, well, Jordan Addison's having a really good
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training game, which is what you expect.
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It's been a lot of, well, Jayla Naylor looks the part of a wide
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receiver three, We haven't seen anyone really take the bull by
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the horns and run with it here. So it would not shock me if we
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saw them dip into free agency to add some depth at some point in
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that area. But I guess we'll see what
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happens on cut down day. Who's available, who's not.
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Yeah, there's there's really there's not a huge standout as
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far as depth of receiver goes. We're training champion.
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Any update on Christian Darris on the likelihood that he's
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ready to go? I'm operating under the
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assumption that he will be ready to go week 1.
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They've they've still been gradually bringing him along,
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but you've seen kind of more first team reps, more 11 on 11
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starters were starters, more of Christian Darasaw there
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anchoring the left side. They haven't come out and said,
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yeah, Christian Darasaw is going to play Week 1 because I don't
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think they want to put pressure on him like that.
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There's still two weeks to go. Let's see how this thing
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progresses and continues to progress.
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But I think everything I've seen and taken note of, I don't have
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a ton of worries about. Christian Darasaw.
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We talked to him last week. He said it feels good.
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He said he can trust it again. He said it was good to be back
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in the trenches and kind of get that feel of what it's like.
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So there's still two weeks to go.
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He's got to check a few more boxes.
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But I think he's going to be on the field week one against the
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Bears. We've seen the job that Brian
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Flores has done these last two years defensively with making
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chicken salad out of chicken crap.
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I mean, he really did. You look at what he did
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initially and just the development that they seemingly
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make every single year. Now, it feels like they got even
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more dudes in there. What's the highest upside you
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can see out of this Vikings defense?
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I mean, is it realistic that we're talking about this defense
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being one of the best 3-4 defenses in all the league this
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year? Yeah, I think that's totally
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within their capability. I think it really hinges on
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health. They they've they've invested a
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lot into guys that were injured, Jonathan Allen injured last
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year, Davon Hargrave injured last year.
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If they can stay helped Andrew Van Ginkel, injured in the past,
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had a great season last year, but has not practiced it for for
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a few weeks now. So if everyone is healthy, I
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think they're as talented top to bottom as there might be across
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the league. As far as the defense goes, I
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think if you look at the defense that they had last year and they
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were top 10, most metrics you look at and they had a weakness
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in the interior of the defensive line.
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And what did they do this offseason?
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They went up and they upgraded the interior, the defensive
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line. So I think you take a defense
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that was good, not great last year and you add two players
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that if they can stay healthy and Jonathan Allen and Jayvon
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Hargrave can make your defense a great to maybe elite defense.
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I think that's totally within their capability.
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I also look at what they've done to the offense at times this
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stamp and when it's been starters, we're starters pretty
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definitively. The defense is always living in
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the backfield. Jonathan Grenard, Andrew Van
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Gingkel, Dallas Turner, Dave Murphy's another guy off the
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edge that that that's popped. They have just a ton of weapons
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that they can throw at you. If there was a question mark,
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I'd say it's probably on the back end who is going to step up
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at cornerback. But you've seen good things out
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of Isaiah Rogers, seeing good things out of Jeff Okuda.
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So that has kind of quelled my nerves there a little bit too.
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So I, I think overall the talent is just pretty much off the
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charts for this, this group. And if they can stay healthy,
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continue to reiterate that they will be one of the best defenses
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in the league. Danemazatanitwincities.com,
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Saint Paul Pioneer Press I know twin Trent to want to get to his
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twins and the follow from last week's announcement.
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But my last thing for you, Dane, is there a presumed starter,
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presumptive starter on this team that is in a real fight for his
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starting role that maybe we didn't see coming once we got to
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it happened late July. Not really.
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I think a lot of the guys that you wanted to see step up have
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stepped up. What I will say is I do think,
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and then this is no disrespect and no knock on how Aaron Jones
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has performed in training camp. I thought he looked good.
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I think he looks fresh. I think he looks ready to go.
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But I wouldn't discount the role that Jordan Mason will have in
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this offense. So I think when you saw the
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Vikings prayed for Jordan Mason back in the spring, it looks
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like maybe a backup who could spot Aaron Jones here and there.
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I don't know if it'll be a 5050 split in the backfield, but I I
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think Jordan Mason has a real, real role in this offense.
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So I know fantasy football drafts are are rolling right
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now. Jordan Mason, I like him as a
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sleeper because I think he's going to get the goal line work.
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I think he's going to get a lot of just the regular work too.
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They want to take the load off Aaron Jones a little bit after a
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career high in touches. So Aaron Jones has not lost his
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job as RB-1, but I think Jordan Mason has kind of forced the
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issue and and made himself a part of that conversation.
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Take us north of the border. Six days ago when the social
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media post heard around the upper Midwest was heard the pole
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ads. We're not going anywhere, we're
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not selling and deal with it and stick it in your eye.
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Twins fans didn't go over very well in this chair.
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I'm going to guess the rhetoric was probably even more intense
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up there north. Yeah, everyone's very angry.
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I think whatever word you angry maybe, but like also just even
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worse. I think you're you're kind of
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leaning towards that apathetic at this point, which is the
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worst thing you can be or as a team in a market.
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Anger means people care. At least I think you're starting
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to lose that care. Even I think people have become
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apathetic to the twins. I think it was fun for first
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twin fans to, you know, not fun to watch them sell the entire
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team. But after they did, you saw
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young guys stepping up, making a name for themselves, strapping
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their way to win. And then just to have even that
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little inkling of of happiness and and promise, then
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immediately kind of let out of the sails by by the news of Paul
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Escoop and the team. I I, I think there is just been
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a growing apathy here for the twins.
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I don't think people are going to spend the money that they
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want they were previously going to spend.
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I don't think people are going to care as much as they did
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certainly three years ago, but maybe even as much as two weeks
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ago. I think they've lost the fan
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base and I think they're going to continue to lose it until
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they stop, yeah. He's brutal.
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Dane, I know you're busy. Thanks for finding time for us.
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Appreciate it, as always, We'll talk to you in the weeks ahead.
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Dane Mazatanti, thank you. Anytime, guys.
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Thank you, buddy. Dane Mazatanti, St.
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Paul Pioneer Press as we check in on the Vikings, with a little
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twin anecdote at the end. It's such a beautiful ballpark.
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It is field, yeah. I'm not going.
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You wouldn't go? No.
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Here's 2 tickets. Nope.
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Right behind the dugout. Nope.
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Yeah. You just wonder, right, what
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it's going to take? Is it behind the dugout?
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Done. Well, now you're thinking, OK,
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it's a pretty good season. There's no way they're going to
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sell. No, nothing changes this winter.
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No, somebody doesn't come in riding to the rescue.
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No, because they've had those opportunities or reading the
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reports. It's just not enough.
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No, they dug themselves a $450 million hole.
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Yeah, the debt, yeah. Even there were was a ownership
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group including one of the two minority stake owners that
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bought in that was interested in buying it at outright 5 billion
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and they said no. Because they had to put the 4:50
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on top of that. You know, Nick Nelson, who
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joined us last week, we were trying to come up with a face.
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And I don't know how we missed this, but you know, it's a local
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face that could be take a lot of arrows, but it would you
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wouldn't get as many arrows shot at him because they love Joe
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Mauer, right? He's he's 1 of theirs.
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Yes, Saint Paul kid, that makes sense.
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Would he do it? I don't think so.
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It's not his personality. Yeah, I don't think he would
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like that. He didn't enjoy the spotlight
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and he certainly, I don't think would enjoy something like that.
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He's just off with his girls doing the thing and good for
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him, living the quiet life on the.
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Hall of Famer. Yeah, I can't see that.
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Justin Bourneau. He's yeah, just.
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Yeah. I don't think he's very good on
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on the TV. Booth, he's not always Speaking
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of that. Yeah.
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Did you see awful announcing came out with their list?
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No. The TV rankings are out for MLB
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for 2025, yes. Really, you know what it and I,
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I hate to do it because he's so beloved in this building.
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Alex Cones become Baghdad Bob. That's his job when he's not
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doing a game, and I'm glad when he's not.
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Everything is fine. Everything's good.
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The 2009 Red Sox, like they have something to do with the 2025
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Cubs. No, they don't.
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Everything's not fine. Fine.
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He's backed that Bob and it drives me crazy.
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It's. Going to be OK.
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And in no world, in no world is he better than Bug Shambi.
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No way. No, no how.
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Not better than Boog and the Cult.
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The cult that follows this Alec Cohen guy.
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Here's let me take you back into Sunday.
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You know what Boog had the audacity to say during the game?
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He's rooting for the Brewers to beat Cincinnati.
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Why wouldn't you? You're not catching the Brewers.
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On your heels are the Cincinnati Reds and the cult attacked Boog
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like I've never seen before. They didn't use their own, their
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mind, their brain to realize, well, why would he have said
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that? Oh, that makes sense.
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Because there's a team chasing you, right?
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For a playoff bit, that's a real possibility.
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We have to get rid of Boog Shambi.
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He's not one of us. He's as good a broadcaster as
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there is in the game. And you hated him initially.
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No, I didn't. He did.
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I could fight the tapes. I just like the guy that who?
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What's the guy that does the White Sox now?
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I like that JD and whoever the White Sox guy was or is now or
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was the radio guy. Guy went to radio, but he's
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become Baghdad Bob. Look at his Twitter account.
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It's all good. That's all he does.
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Len Casper. Len Casper.
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Yeah, he's good. Casper was good.
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Boo's better. Take your time out.
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Bill Bender. Am I right?
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Yes, I I don't understand how it's even a conversation.
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Not, but it is. I was in on boog right away.
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I'm a big boog shambi. He's terrific.
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He's really, really good. But the fact that he came out
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and says he's root for the Brewers, not like he's got a
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freaking Pennant and he's waving in his hand.
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He wants to see the Brewers win because the the vision is gone.
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That's gone. It's not gonna be.
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It's over. The best news yesterday was the
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rain out. Absolutely was.
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They got killed in game one. Kate Horton got hurt.
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That wasn't good. That was not a good part of it.
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And they did the right thing by pulling them out.
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But those two kids that got a little was OK.
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I shouldn't say that little was OK.
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The other guy, boy, he was brutal.
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Anyways, we'll take your time out.
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Have they started today? They have bought the.
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First pitch. Yeah, we're right.
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Yeah, it's. Top of the first, Yeah, top of
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the first. All right, we'll keep an eye on
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that. But we will come back.
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And we will be joined by Bill Bender on college football,
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Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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I'm Mallory Condon, welcome back. 1:30 on a Tuesday, top of
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the hour off the bench, Lucas Strain, Sean Roberts, 2 until 5,
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trends, plays of the day, Circus sports sponsor, those those
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still to come in about 1520 minutes or thereabouts right
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now, Bill Bender, where he covers college football for the
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Sporting News, sportingnews.com, and he is with us.
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Plenty of good content from Bill again this week as we lead up to
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week #0 And Bill, you've actually got predictions.
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Happy days are here again as you're breaking down games and
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picking them against the spread. Your job gets more.
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Is it get more fun for you, Bill?
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It certainly does for Trent. And I don't want to put words in
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Trent's mouth, but I think he feels the same way.
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Let's bring in your step as we get to football too.
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Oh yeah. Well, I'll say this that Week 0
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picks against the spread, I've been talking about it all week.
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The first game, I think I put more pressure on myself to get
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that pick right than any other pick of the season.
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And you know, like last year, for example, I picked Florida
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State to win. I think most of us did.
21:27
And you know, obviously Georgia Tech won that game.
21:31
I think this one's almost impossible.
21:33
Yeah, I picked Kansas State. I get that.
21:34
But I do think it's A1 score game and and turnovers will
21:38
dictate who wins, obviously. Who adjusts to being in Dublin,
21:43
Ireland first? Yeah, it's going to be an
21:47
incredible game, the kick off for the Big 12 and an
21:50
opportunity for the Big 12 to really have that spotlight in
21:53
this new era of college football.
21:55
And the importance, and I mentioned this to a Big 12 fan
21:58
earlier today, the importance if you go another year with only
22:02
one team getting into the playoff, the narrative that is
22:04
going to continue to build, well, that's just a one bid
22:07
league. I mean, we hear that so much
22:09
when it pertains to the NCAA basketball tournament.
22:11
But if you get 2-3 four years into it and you're only getting
22:14
one team, not knowing what the future looks like in the
22:16
playoff, that's not good for your conference.
22:19
I think it's important for this not just to be a nice game and a
22:21
competitive one, but to kind of sell the Big 12 in a way.
22:24
Is that a fairway to look at it, Bill?
22:27
Yeah, I, I and you know, I, I'm going to choose carefully how I
22:31
say this, but the one bid league thing, you start to become the
22:36
what the basketball version is with the NBC and the OBC where
22:39
we're kind of like, we love the ball.
22:41
We do, but that's a fun league to watch.
22:43
But remember the controversy when Indiana State didn't get in
22:47
a couple years ago? I don't want that to be the Big
22:50
12. I want.
22:51
I think they're not getting rewarded for having parody and
22:55
having four quarter games. And Trent, I would anticipate
22:58
we'd get a four quarter game here.
23:00
But do we have the national championship type program?
23:05
Brett talked about that at Big Quote media Day.
23:07
Do you have a couple programs that separate themselves, Kansas
23:10
State and Iowa State? Certainly the potential for them
23:13
to do that this year is there. And you hit the nail on the head
23:16
and I've been we see it the same way, Bill, when it comes to this
23:19
game, because I too am picking K State.
23:22
I just can't get past the fact that Jaden Higgins and Jalen
23:25
Dole, I think there were two schools that that had a pair of
23:29
1000 yard receivers, Ohio State and Iowa State, and they're both
23:32
on the Houston Texans now in Townsend and Seoul.
23:35
Might be really good players, but I can't see them coming, at
23:39
least at this point, anywhere close to the shadow that Higgins
23:42
and Knoll have left behind. Well, and they had a good
23:45
running game with Hanson and Thelma last year, right?
23:48
They got it going. Those guys averaged like 5 yards
23:51
of carry in that game. And then on the other side, it's
23:54
Dylan Edwards turn for K State. And we know Avery Johnson can
23:58
make plays with his legs. I think Avery Johnson is one of
24:00
the most interesting players in college football because
24:04
sometimes I watch him sit down, be like, man, this guy is, is it
24:08
tanning? Great mixed plays and then other
24:10
games you can see that inconsistency pop up a little
24:13
bit. So he's as fun as anybody to
24:16
watch the last Iowa State's won, three of the last four, three of
24:20
the last four one score games. I'm just excited to turn the TV
24:23
on and have it on there. Ding Ding.
24:25
Ding right there with you. We get Fresno, Kansas a little
24:27
bit later on. Going to be a great day of
24:29
football to open things up with Week Zero.
24:32
So the latest article I saw you penned over at the Sporting News
24:35
was ranking the top transfer quarter 2025.
24:38
And as I clicked on it, I was get ready.
24:40
All right, let's see. I got a little ammunition to
24:42
fire a Bill here because he's not going to have Mark Gordowski
24:45
higher enough. And then I see him at #4 on your
24:47
list. I'm like, I think maybe Bill had
24:49
him a little bit too high. So take us in to Mark Gordowski
24:53
and why you had him 4th on this list of these transfer
24:56
quarterbacks and pretty high hopes there for the Hawkeye QB.
24:59
Well, I mean, winner, right? He played a lot of football.
25:03
I I'm partial to those, those two programs, South Dakota
25:06
State, North Dakota State, when you have somebody come through
25:09
there, they play a little bit, but a lot of football theme
25:12
eclipse. It's hard to take too much from
25:14
a couple, you know, practice film things, But you know, I
25:18
think he can ignite that passing attack a little bit and the
25:22
three guys I have ahead of them I think are pretty safe.
25:24
And then after that, every guy from granout and beyond, there's
25:27
questions, you know, you could put Devin Dampier higher again
25:31
play, you know, some of those guys.
25:33
It is how they handle the the jump from the Group of 5 to the
25:38
Power Four or the FDS. You know who Gronowski kind of a
25:43
loose comparison. I thought Max Brosnan played
25:46
very well at Minnesota a couple of years ago, and if he's that
25:49
for Iowa, you'd be in business. Yeah, Max Brosnar is going to
25:53
win a spot on that Vikings roster as as well not that that
25:56
here and there for this year, but still to your point, pretty
25:59
pretty nice player I want to go back to down fear for just a
26:02
second Bill. He's the reason I'm picking Utah
26:04
to win the Big 12 in a in a complete toss up league make a
26:08
case for six maybe 7 teams they've got quarterback played
26:12
this year. Winningham hasn't forgotten to
26:13
coach right. I think last year was the blip
26:15
on the radar that anomaly if you will.
26:18
I, I, I like Utah to win it, the Big 12.
26:21
And I like it because because Devin Dampier, he's that good.
26:26
Yeah, I think so. I think, you know, the rushing
26:29
has my attention and I put that in the article.
26:32
You know, you look quarterbacks that have won the Heisman over
26:35
the years, 1000 yard rushers like Cam Newton, Keller, Murray,
26:39
Jayden Daniels, Lamar. Obviously Lamar had a huge year.
26:44
And Devin, if he does that at Utah and puts those kind of
26:48
numbers up, they were a massive quarterback last year.
26:50
I think that was the biggest reason they went five and seven
26:53
and Kyle's a solid coach. They got a new off, brought the
26:56
offensive coordinator with them too from New Mexico.
26:59
So I do think Devin Dambir could have a huge year.
27:02
Speaking of huge years #1 on your list, Carson Beck.
27:05
And he's going to have an opportunity to open some eyes
27:07
week one against Notre Dame. Becca just it didn't click last
27:11
year for them. Even you look at him
27:13
statistically, he didn't have the receivers that he had
27:15
before. I mean, you lose what they lost
27:17
in both tight and a wide receiver.
27:18
That's going to happen at Georgia.
27:20
Carson Beck, he's a different kind of guy, Lamborghini, as
27:24
opposed to the pickup truck that Gutter Stock is driving around
27:26
in Georgia and maybe Miami's the right fit for you.
27:29
What are your expectation level for Carson Beck and can he be
27:32
the guy to finally deliver Miami into an ACC Championship game?
27:37
Yeah, I think so. I, I think, you know, they're
27:39
coming off a 10/1 season. 1 of the things that stuck out at ACC
27:43
Kickoff that Crystal kept saying about Carson Beck is that he he
27:47
matches what they want to do right.
27:50
And I'm not saying this this way.
27:51
Cam Ward may have not matched, but it was his playmaking skills
27:55
that were amazing. You know, and I don't know if
27:58
Beck has that, but I think he has the big game experience. 24
28:02
three is the starter. Turned it over a little bit last
28:05
year, but I think he fits. And now with the news that CJ
28:10
Carr is starting for Notre Dame, I mean, that's Sunday nighter.
28:13
I'm starting to. I keep going back and forth
28:16
like, yeah, I want to see Ohio State, Texas, and yeah, I want
28:19
to see LSU, Clemson, but I'm sure to think Miami, Notre Dame
28:24
was. If I said that will probably be
28:26
the closest game of the three, would you guys be shocked?
28:30
No, I wouldn't. I mean TI mean there's so many
28:33
TC North Carolina's in a stand alone spot as well.
28:37
Bill, I want to go to your article that you wrote.
28:40
I think it came out last week. He ranked teams one through 136.
28:43
I I got to be incredibly difficult, right, But maybe it
28:48
was 136 as easy as you've ever had.
28:50
I mean, I can't find a team, A-Team that has less, less
28:55
people that had that, that fewer people, I guess way to put it,
28:59
that give Kent State a chance to win a game.
29:01
I mean, this is going to this is historically bad.
29:04
How bad is Kent State Bill? I got to be careful how loud I
29:07
am my wifes right downstairs. She went to Kent State, so.
29:11
You know we. I always, we always go back and
29:14
forth a little bit when they play with my Bobcats.
29:16
But no, you know, they, they, they've got a ways to go.
29:22
Parts of that to do are the top 25 because I've got it done.
29:27
And then like the bottom 10 or so if you order around I-26
29:32
through like, no, not even 26 to 50.
29:34
I would say like 50 through 75 is probably the heart because
29:38
then you start to drop schools and you're like, like I got a
29:40
text last week, 10 it said like, man, you have Kentucky 62,
29:44
what's wrong with you? And I'm like, you know, that's
29:47
the hard part is like Kentucky versus, you know, Rutgers versus
29:51
Vanderbilt and how to stack those teams up that were outside
29:55
receiving votes in the top 25. Wow.
29:59
Figuring out how they are and placing them in there and what
30:02
is the difference between a four and eight SCC team and an 8 and
30:05
4 mat team and how do you rate those two and and put them in
30:08
there? A very difficult exercise.
30:10
Well, there was an exercise done by the NCAA.
30:13
It was just finding Michigan a bunch of money.
30:16
As an Ohio guy, I anticipated what you were going to say about
30:19
this Woodville. A lot of head scratching out
30:22
there. No post season ban.
30:24
Well, are you going to ban the people that had nothing to do
30:27
with it? It's the kind of same things
30:28
that we've learned the last 20 of years.
30:30
How surprised were you, though, by the ruling and the sign
30:32
stealing scandal from Michigan and the way this all played out?
30:36
Not at all surprised. I mean, it's the NCA, so you
30:40
learn not to be. I didn't think I thought they
30:43
should get a one year postseason ban, but I knew they weren't
30:46
going to, you know what I mean? Like I thought the fine that
30:50
could hurt them more than people think, you know, with recruits.
30:54
But then again, you get the news that they get the number one
30:56
recruit at running back in the country today.
30:58
So I don't know how much that's going to hurt.
31:00
But you know, and the thing I wonder, Trent, in 10 years are
31:06
we lied when we think of championship team, are we still
31:09
talking about Connor Stallion? I don't think we talk about the
31:12
USC sanctions as much with Reggie Bush.
31:15
I know we don't talk about the scandals around Tim Newton, who
31:18
just got his number retired. I know we don't talk around
31:21
those. So I'm wondering if I don't
31:23
think Connor Stallions will fade as much but he will fade some.
31:28
What would the punishment have been 10 years ago, Bill?
31:32
I think they would have vacated when and I think they probably
31:35
would have maybe got a similar punishment that Ohio State got
31:39
with the tattoo gate. That's kind of the conversation
31:42
piece around here is like why did Ohio State?
31:45
And my answer to that is that wasn't in the playoff era, that
31:50
wasn't in the billion dollar program NIL era.
31:52
And I think that with TV networks, I think that's factor.
31:56
You're the best, Bill. Thanks for joining us.
31:58
Appreciate it. As always, talk to you in the
31:59
weeks ahead. Thank you, Bill Bender.
32:01
OK, Anytime. Thanks guys.
32:02
Have a good one you. You're the same Bill banner
32:04
sportingnews.com as we talk a little college football with
32:07
Bill. Did you watch the Connor
32:09
Stallions piece at all? No.
32:11
On. Was it Netflix to put it out?
32:12
Yes, must have been. I watched it on a plane, a
32:14
couple of them. Didn't do it for me it.
32:16
Didn't do it for me, but you know what I came across A pretty
32:19
smart dude. Oh yeah.
32:20
Brilliant. I mean, he's brilliant dude,
32:22
yes. Anyways, trance picks.
32:25
Needed a cheat to beat Iowa. Needed a cheat to beat Iowa.
32:29
Got the game ball in Kiddix Stadium but.
32:31
Not didn't do anything. Now, Jim Harbaugh didn't know
32:33
who he was. Sure.
32:35
Yeah. You normally give out game balls
32:36
to people you don't know. Absolutely that are in your
32:38
locker. Room, right, Right.
32:40
Did anybody go in after all, you know?
32:42
Who's that guy? Let's give him the game ball.
32:44
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back. Final segment here on a Tuesday.
32:59
The ESPN crew has been announced for the Farmageddon game.
33:06
Dave Pash, Dusty Dvorchek and Taylor McGregor, the Cubs
33:12
sideline gal on her way over there.
33:14
I'd like to buy stock in her career.
33:16
I think you can't do that. No, I know you can't.
33:18
Yeah, if you could. If you could.
33:20
Yeah, yes, I, I think I would buy stock in her career.
33:24
I think she's on a fast track. But that's the that's the ESPN
33:29
broadcast through live from Dublin on Saturday.
33:35
When we going into Kansas and then Kansas, Fresno State is
33:38
next. I believe so and.
33:40
Then Hawaii Stanford brings the curtain down, but it's not like
33:43
a middle of the night. Game it's not good. 630 perfect.
33:46
So we got 11:00 Iowa State, K State.
33:49
There's a three o'clock game UNLV hosting Idaho State.
33:53
Is that on TV? The Mountain West network.
33:56
Never heard of it. Might be online only.
33:59
Fresno, Kansas. That's on Fox.
34:01
Yeah, good, good. Look at Kansas.
34:03
That's good. 530 kickoff for that one.
34:05
How about a little Western Kentucky?
34:07
Sam Houston State get you going? Nope. 6:00 kickoff and then 6:30
34:12
for Stanford out at the Rainbow Warriors.
34:16
But that's not all. Oh, there's wait, there's more.
34:19
Wait, there's more in the FCS ranks?
34:23
And we have other games, including Incarnate Word against
34:26
Nichols State on the deuce at noon.
34:28
Really. On ESPN, too.
34:31
Can I interest you in a little UC Davis Mercer on ESP?
34:35
NI think I'll probably go back to baseball after I was think K
34:38
State and want to watch Kansas since they're on the clone
34:40
schedule but they're late in the year.
34:41
They are. Is that senior day maybe?
34:44
For you're going to watch Game 128.
34:48
A baseball? Well, it depends.
34:50
Over even Stanford, no. I'm going to watch Stanford a
34:54
while for sure. For sure.
34:56
Fresno, Kansas Can Hawaii win that game?
34:58
Yes, they're favored out. It it's.
35:00
Flipped. It's flipped up to 2 1/2, yeah.
35:04
And ABC. Big ABC has North Carolina
35:09
central and Southern. That is, I believe, one of the
35:11
celebration games with the historically makes sense Black
35:14
colleges. That makes sense as we had the
35:16
celebration bowl at the end of the season.
35:18
This is the one at the beginning of the year that they've done
35:20
what quite of quite often here recently in Week 0.
35:24
And then next Thursday at 4:30, we get Boise State, South
35:28
Florida, right? Rutgers plays, get a good look
35:32
at them at 5:00 against Ohio, just because they're September
35:36
against the Hawks, September, right?
35:37
Yes. And then it gets tricky because
35:41
Wisconsin and Minnesota are both within an hour of each other,
35:43
and so is Nebraska and Cincy. And obviously that game means
35:48
both schools. You got to get a peek of that
35:50
one somehow. Gophers favor by 16 1/2.
35:53
Badgers 17 1/2. Nebraska. 6 1/2.
35:58
Very tricky. What is it about Cincy that they
36:01
like? Well, they got.
36:02
Stores be back. They got a quarterback back.
36:05
It's year three from that rule. The building is going to be
36:10
802070. 3095. 555 Husker fans. It's an Arrowhead, and it's not
36:19
very far between. Those cities, right?
36:21
Hop, skip and a jump, right? They shared an NBA team.
36:25
They did. He did back in the day.
36:26
The kings, Yeah. Kings, yeah.
36:28
The Kansas City slash Omaha Kings.
36:33
That doesn't seem like enough points.
36:35
Oh. Husker Kenny coming out of his.
36:37
Back, baby, He's back. There he is.
36:40
Football season is here. Ken's talking himself into the
36:44
Huskers. They may not lose a game Trent
36:46
until. Yes, we've been there before,
36:49
right? Keep digging.
36:50
Keep digging. Let's let's get into your place
36:52
today, Cubby, you started the week 1 and two one in the
36:55
football. You blew both baseball, by the
36:57
way. Speaking of baseball, Cubs have
36:59
jumped up to to A2 zipped lead Owen Casey with A2 run single to
37:06
put the Cubbies on the board. Dare to dream If they do win the
37:10
remaining four games, it's back to five.
37:13
It's over. It's back to five.
37:16
Them talk to me when they win the remaining four games.
37:19
How about we get a win first before we start talking about
37:21
that? Yeah, let's start with some wins
37:23
in baseball because that has not been the case this week.
37:25
We're going to go to the old tried and true you're.
37:28
Betting against the Twins? Not doing that as they're
37:31
playing the A's. I'm betting I'm Max Scherzer to
37:34
get it done. Lay the -145 with the Blue Jays.
37:37
You know what? Scherzer's been really good his
37:39
last couple of starts. Speaking of really good, Hunter
37:42
Green was outstanding in his first start, so we're going to
37:45
feed him and start #2 give me the Angels and old Kyle
37:48
Hendricks chocking it up there. 72 miles an hour.
37:50
We'll take the Angels plus 122 in LA tonight.
37:54
And what in the WNBAA? Good one.
37:57
Possibly a championship matchup. Give me the links and the points
38:01
tonight against the Liberty. Get in the 3 1/2.
38:04
I will take Minnesota in the WNBA.
38:07
Is Collier back? The she was listed, I believe,
38:12
as doubtful for this evening at the last check that I have.
38:17
You know what she must be on because Minnesota opened up as a
38:19
favorite and it's flipped significantly, as you said.
38:22
What 3 now? They are Owen 3 when she's not
38:24
out there. I'm hoping for a tight game down
38:27
the stretch and that Natasha Cloud has a boxer performance.
38:31
That's what we're looking for tonight from the link.
38:32
All right, David Kaplan will join us tomorrow.
38:35
We look forward to that each and every week.
38:37
But obviously, the fate of the Cubs will go go a long way into
38:41
tomorrow's segment with the cap man.
38:43
He'll join us. Latest on Caleb Williams.
38:45
I got to figure that he's feeling pretty good about those
38:48
Chicago Bears after what we saw with our own two eyes on Sunday
38:52
night. That's going to do it for us.
38:54
Lucas Strange, Sean Roberts, come off the bench 2 to 5.
38:57
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38:58
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