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319: Sister Wives Rewind - Tell All with Tamron Hall (S7 E9) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: you in it fans. Do we need to talk takeaways?
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Speaker 1: I mean it was a tell all. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: a lot of flashback.
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Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: Did you have a take away after watching Beatrice?
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Speaker 3: Really? My only takeaway was, man, I want Tamaron Hall back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like fire Suki.
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Speaker 3: Immediately, immediate termination and bring back Tammeron Hall because she
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Speaker 3: was pressing them.
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Speaker 2: Brown's hard.
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Speaker 1: She was trying to and I love it they were
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Speaker 1: pushing back against it. Uh huh. My only takeaway was
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Speaker 1: just like, wow, Tamaron is pretty oh gorgeous, like just
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Speaker 1: her luminous skin, her beautiful bang and bot.
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Speaker 2: She's just the.
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Speaker 1: Most gorgeous woman is for real That's all I could
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Speaker 1: think about when I was watching this, and that is
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Speaker 1: my takeaway. All right, So without further ado, let's get
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Speaker 1: into our recap of Sister Wives season seven, episode nine, entitled.
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Speaker 3: Tell All, Tell All. Well, this tell all was full
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Speaker 3: of flashbacks. So the first flashback that we had was
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Speaker 3: Married telling Cody with his Keith Urban straightened hair so
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Speaker 3: bad that she wanted to go back to college and
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Speaker 3: she got a letter from UNLV. And then we also
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Speaker 3: had a flashback of her telling Robin that she was
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Speaker 3: going to college and Robin freaking the fuck out about it.
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Speaker 3: And then we had a discussion about what it meant
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Speaker 3: for the family for Mary to go back to college
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Speaker 3: and why Robin was so upset about it, and she
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Speaker 3: had to do damage control a little bit, which was
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Speaker 3: pretty funny. So what did you think about this segment
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Speaker 3: in this flashback?
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Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of a nothing burger. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I started watching it and I was thinking, are we
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Speaker 1: in the wrong season, because it feels like these flashbacks,
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Speaker 1: or some of them at least, are from like one
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Speaker 1: or two seasons ago. Yeah, but it made me remember
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Speaker 1: how much my Sister Wife's closet was and is floundering
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Speaker 1: and just seeing Robin get her back up over the
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Speaker 1: fact that Mary might have some dreams and aspirations outside
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Speaker 1: height of Robin's own goals, and like how affrontage she was.
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Speaker 1: And I think on the couch she used the word ditched.
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Speaker 1: She felt ditched by Mary, like she was meeting her
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Speaker 1: to go play outside like they were kids, and then
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Speaker 1: she decided to go play with some other girls, and
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Speaker 1: it just felt really bad. Not a betrayal per se,
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Speaker 1: but ditched.
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Speaker 3: So whack, like you're a grown woman. It's so weird
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Speaker 3: to me and to use that terminology. But I think
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Speaker 3: she was definitely just trying to manipulate the situation and
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Speaker 3: make it look like, oh, I wasn't upset because Mary
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Speaker 3: was leaving my sister Eve's closet.
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Speaker 2: I just I missed my flan.
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Speaker 3: And then it turned into a conversation about Mary like
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Speaker 3: disengaging from the whole family, which was a little bit
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Speaker 3: interesting because to me, that's just shedding a light on
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Speaker 3: the future catfishing issue, because I think the family, even
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Speaker 3: Christine echoes it, like, yeah, I've noticed Mary's totally disconnecting
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Speaker 3: from the rest of the family already. This is just
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Speaker 3: shedding on Mary ultimately cheating.
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Speaker 1: I think so, And I actually had the thought while
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Speaker 1: I was watching this, like, hmm, I wonder if Robin
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Speaker 1: was so offended that Mary did not continue to be
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Speaker 1: an ally to her with my sister Weis's closet, that
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Speaker 1: she somehow allowed herself to become a part of what
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Speaker 1: happened with the catfish, which, of course, in the most
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Speaker 1: recent season, season twenty, we had this sort of ancillar
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Speaker 1: discussion around Robin's knowledge and participation with the catfish. Nothing
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Speaker 1: was resolved. But maybe she was so pissed because Mary
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Speaker 1: was trying to bail on the business after Janelle was
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Speaker 1: already over it and Christine didn't want to do it.
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Speaker 1: Plus she fucked up the pitch she did, she fucked
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Speaker 1: up the shark deck, and so maybe Mary's like her
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Speaker 1: only friend left, and all of a sudden, Mary's not
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Speaker 1: there anymore. And so in a year or so, when
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Speaker 1: Mary starts sticking a banana in her mouth, Robin's like,
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Speaker 1: fuck that babu.
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Speaker 3: I could tot he see that, like a little bit
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Speaker 3: of mean girl retaliation because her bff ditchter. I could
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent see that. Then we have a flashback
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Speaker 3: of Cody telling Michelti and her dumb boyfriend that if
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Speaker 3: they kiss each other, their hormones are going to spread
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Speaker 3: into their mouths and so stupid, they're gonna share their
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Speaker 3: DNA with each other, So don't be kissing and certainly
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Speaker 3: don't be fucking. And then we have to have this
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Speaker 3: conversation about like the parents talking to their kids about
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Speaker 3: sex ed and we talk about this with the older
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Speaker 3: kids later in the episode, and I'm like, why.
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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?
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Speaker 2: So many other things that we could talk about, and.
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Speaker 1: Then there's dumb Christine.
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Speaker 3: Ugh.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually really grateful that Cody said something to Mikelty
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Speaker 1: and her boyfriend. And anytime any of my children bring
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Speaker 1: somebody in that they're romantically involved in, I want him
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Speaker 1: to give this lecture because they'll be so grossed out
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Speaker 1: with the idea of swapping hormones through our saliva that
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Speaker 1: they won't want to kiss my kids.
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Speaker 2: Embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: I was cringing, like, Christine, we don't.
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Speaker 2: Need to do this.
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Speaker 3: But I could see why she would go on this
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Speaker 3: little tangent because she was trying to like suck up
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Speaker 3: to Cody, because I think at this time this is
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Speaker 3: when shit starts happening in their marriage where he's not
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Speaker 3: fucking her as much, she's not over at her house.
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Speaker 3: Because we talk about the unequal distribution of Cody's time
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Speaker 3: later in this Dell All, and it's very obvious that
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Speaker 3: the OG three at least are not getting enough of Cody.
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Speaker 3: Robin's only getting Cody at this point. So I could
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Speaker 3: see Christine doing this as like a way to try
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Speaker 3: and be.
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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, Cody's so great.
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Speaker 3: He didn't look like a complete idiot when he was
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Speaker 3: talking about swapping hormones when kissing. I don't know, I
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Speaker 3: just thought it was weird. Then we have a flashback
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Speaker 3: to like my Sister Wives closet, uh business, And then
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Speaker 3: we also have a flashback to the Shark Tank pitch
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Speaker 3: that Christine ultimately ruined.
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Speaker 2: For the family.
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Speaker 1: And what I loved about this is that they're making
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Speaker 1: everybody watch the flashback so good with ye talking about
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Speaker 1: how the pitch was so janky and that he was
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Speaker 1: actually pretty embarrassed after all of the investors came out
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Speaker 1: of that meeting and they kind of looked at him like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: are you serious right now?
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Speaker 2: Stan?
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Speaker 1: You want us to invest in this? And so First
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Speaker 1: of all, that's just lovely. It's so good and so harsh.
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Speaker 1: But then to see the Browns actually watching that bag,
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Speaker 1: oh god, it was so perfect, and Cody's like, they
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Speaker 1: just didn't get it. They focused on one thing that
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Speaker 1: we fumbled, and they didn't understand. We're making art. This
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Speaker 1: is to fine art that's becoming jewelry that people want
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Speaker 1: to buy, and the question is where are those people?
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Speaker 2: Have they ever purchased?
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Speaker 3: No? That was so funny to me when Cody was
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Speaker 3: going on that tension about how they're really good at
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Speaker 3: making art, and I'm like, really you are.
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Speaker 2: Robin's good at making art.
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Speaker 1: Well, she's good at sketching in her sketch book. I
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Speaker 1: make it good and then she hands it over to
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Speaker 1: somebody else to translate into jewelry. It's ridiculous. We did, though,
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Speaker 1: get to see a flashback that one based investor Ladies say, well, okay,
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Speaker 1: so you have fifteen million fresh unique visitors a month
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Speaker 1: to your website, but you've only sold five hundred pieces
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Speaker 1: of jewelry.
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Speaker 2: Can you tell me why that is?
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Speaker 1: Nope, none of them have an answer for that, not
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Speaker 1: at all. Janelle's like, well, you know, we didn't have
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Speaker 1: the funding, and we didn't really know what to do.
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Speaker 2: That's why we're here. Can you do all the work
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Speaker 2: for us? Wild?
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Speaker 3: So great? And then when we talk about Christine's failed pitch,
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Speaker 3: like of course Christine's laughing about it on the couch,
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Speaker 3: but you can see Robin's hard jaw like she's still
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Speaker 3: mad about it. Cody's also giving her like kind of
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Speaker 3: a dirty look, like, oh, you ruined it. It's not
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Speaker 3: our failed business model, it's not the ugly art, it's
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Speaker 3: not the high prices. It was Christine's comment. She ruined it.
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Speaker 3: And then he does confirm that they haven't received any
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Speaker 3: of the funding from the investors even still, which is
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Speaker 3: really funny. So they never got the money.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, is it ever gonna be addressed
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Speaker 1: and like upcoming season about these investors and their investments,
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Speaker 1: or we just gonna forget that this actually happened.
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Speaker 3: I know, they go on to like pitch it to
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Speaker 3: other people, and they go to do they go try
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Speaker 3: and do more of these art shows and stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: and it's obviously completely unsuccessful.
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Speaker 2: It's a it's a flop.
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Speaker 3: And then we have Mary's like catfishing thing that kind
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Speaker 3: of order overshadows all of it, and then you know
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Speaker 3: the ultimate demise of the family where it's like, we
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Speaker 3: don't care about my Sister Wives Closet anymore at all.
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Speaker 3: And then we have a flashback to their little therapy
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Speaker 3: session with Nancy where Cody like totally crashed out and
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Speaker 3: got mad because he doesn't feel like he's the leader
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Speaker 3: of the family at all whatsoever. And then we have
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Speaker 3: this weird discussion about like who is the leader in
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Speaker 3: the family. Why can't one of the wives.
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Speaker 1: Be when to Robin exactly, and like.
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Speaker 3: Why can't They were talking about it with My Sister
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Speaker 3: Wives Closet too, like why can't Robin be the CEO
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Speaker 3: of my Sister Wives Closet? Like how do you guys
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Speaker 3: delegate all of the work and all this stuff? And
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Speaker 3: Janelle kind of takes the head with this where she's like, well,
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Speaker 3: we have to figure out our roles and everything's decided
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Speaker 3: by committee, and we don't want one person to be
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Speaker 3: the leader and tamer and Hall starts to press Cody
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Speaker 3: about it and be like, well, why can't you be
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Speaker 3: the leader because you're the man and this is your
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Speaker 3: lifestyle and if the wives can't be the leader, why
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Speaker 3: can't you be it? And Cody seems so uncomfortable by it,
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Speaker 3: which is interesting, like, why do you want to be
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Speaker 3: in this lifestyle? Why do you want to be a
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Speaker 3: plural husband If you can't just take charge and be
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Speaker 3: the patriarch, it's so weird.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a natural inclination of Cody Brown
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Speaker 1: to be that Win Brown kind of a masculine person.
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Speaker 1: I think maybe through the years, especially in those early years,
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Speaker 1: he probably tried to assert himself as some kind of
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Speaker 1: a leader, but I think he probably immediately got some
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Speaker 1: bombastic pushback from Mary. Then we know that Janelle up
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Speaker 1: and leaves him once or twhy in their early relationship,
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Speaker 1: She's like, peace out, this is chaos, I'm out of here.
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Speaker 1: And then you have Christine who's just, you know, very
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Speaker 1: very emotional, and he doesn't know how to manage that either.
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Speaker 1: So maybe he tried in the beginning and then he
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Speaker 1: just gave up at some point. But now that Robbin's
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Speaker 1: in the family, now he has an alliance and now,
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Speaker 1: at least in a kind of a hidden way, with
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Speaker 1: a hidden hand, she can be the head bitch in
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Speaker 1: charge and he can get done what he wants to
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Speaker 1: get done. She performatively says that Cody's in charge mm hmm,
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Speaker 1: and that she wouldn't want to have his job or
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Speaker 1: be in his role because it's so difficult. But truly,
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, she's the one who's telling Cody what
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Speaker 1: she thinks should happen, and he's the one who's executing it.
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Speaker 2: Definitely.
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Speaker 3: She even tries to like throw all of the wives
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Speaker 3: under the bus and say, like, oh, well, we just
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Speaker 3: always give Cody a ton of trouble. And granted, you know,
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Speaker 3: they probably do give him a little bit of trouble,
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Speaker 3: but Cody is not an easy person to be around
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Speaker 3: to experience, so like it's not all just the wives.
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Speaker 3: And Cody also throws the wives under the bus, saying like,
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Speaker 3: if he wanted to be the boss and if he
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Speaker 3: wanted to be in charge, he would have married different women,
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Speaker 3: implying that these women just kind of make it impossible, yeah,
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Speaker 3: and walk all over him and dominate everything, and I
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Speaker 3: just don't appreciate that that, like Tammern didn't. Maybe she
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Speaker 3: did press them on it, and maybe it was edited
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Speaker 3: out because later in the episode there was a little
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Speaker 3: scene with Christine walking out that they seem to have
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Speaker 3: edited some shit out there. And then we have Tameron
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Speaker 3: asking Cody about sharing time with all of the wives,
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Speaker 3: and this was really interesting, like a nice little nugget
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Speaker 3: in this tell all, because Cody's obviously uncomfortable by this conversation,
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Speaker 3: and I think Tamern asks about like, who is the
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Speaker 3: last person to express to you that they don't get
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Speaker 3: enough time with you? Because he says something like at
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Speaker 3: least once a week, I'm getting complaints about how I'm
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Speaker 3: not even with my time, how I'm not hanging out
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Speaker 3: with somebody enough, And Tamar's like, well, who said it?
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Speaker 3: And Cody's like, oh, we're not divulging that because the
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Speaker 3: cameras aren't allowed in my bedroom or aren't allowed in
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Speaker 3: our bedrooms, and Tamaran's like, I'm not asking about your
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Speaker 3: sex life, bro, I'm just asking who complained about you
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Speaker 3: not spending enough time with them? And then she's like, well,
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Speaker 3: maybe I won't to ask you that question. Maybe I'll
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Speaker 3: ask the women. And Janelle's actually the first person to
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Speaker 3: be like, yeah, I said it, and then Christine's like, yep,
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Speaker 3: I tell him, and then Mary says yeah, I tell.
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Speaker 2: Him that too.
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Speaker 3: So obviously all three the og three are complaining to
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Speaker 3: Cody apparently weekly.
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Speaker 1: That Robin didn't say anything on the cow Robin was
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Speaker 1: safe and to Robin and she said nothing because she's
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Speaker 1: getting all the time.
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Speaker 3: She is getting all the time, and she looked mad
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Speaker 3: that these wives spoke up about that, and Cody seemed
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Speaker 3: upset about it. He's like, wow, okay, I guess we're
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Speaker 3: gonna talk about it, because he tried to.
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Speaker 2: In his devents a little bit.
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Speaker 3: He tried to be like, no, we're not going to
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Speaker 3: talk about it, We're not gonna bring that up on TV.
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Speaker 3: And then they just do it, which I think is
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Speaker 3: pretty great.
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Speaker 1: And that's why we love Tameron Hall. And that's why
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Speaker 1: you need an interviewer like Tameron Hall who's willing to
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Speaker 1: ask a follow up question, Okay, like who said that? Okay,
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Speaker 1: you don't want to tell me, why don't you, ladies
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Speaker 1: tell me who says that or who feels that way?
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Speaker 1: Like I loved that about her. But still you can't
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Speaker 1: crack these Browns. They don't want to share their dirty
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Speaker 1: little secrets.
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Speaker 3: And I can understand, like why they would be uncomfortable
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Speaker 3: by Tameron's like line of questioning because she does kind
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Speaker 3: of come across like more like an interviewer than like
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Speaker 3: a tell all host, Like she's like definitely pressing them
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Speaker 3: on their lifestyle and pressing them on sharing time and
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Speaker 3: the tenets of their religion. At one point, like they're
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Speaker 3: talking about polygamy with the kids, and that kind of
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Speaker 3: segues into another conversation with the older kids. Think about
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Speaker 3: like Logan and some of the other older kids saying
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Speaker 3: that they don't want to live polygamy, and Tamman Hall's like, well,
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Speaker 3: why wouldn't you want your kids to live this lifestyle?
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Speaker 3: This is a tenet of your religion, and if you
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Speaker 3: guys feel called to it, why wouldn't you expect or
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Speaker 3: want your kids to live it? And all of the
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Speaker 3: Browns just kind of flaunter and they're.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, they can choose their faith.
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Speaker 1: This was our calling, but our kids are entitled to
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Speaker 1: have their own calling and they might not be called
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Speaker 1: to it, and that's okay. But that is such an
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Speaker 1: interesting question because if you want to be in the
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Speaker 1: aub or if you want to be in this kind
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Speaker 1: of sect of fundamentalist Mormonism, is it an article of
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Speaker 1: your faith? Is it like a commandment that you have
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Speaker 1: to engage in polygamist relationships right, and that the answer
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Speaker 1: to that wasn't clear to me, And I love that
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Speaker 1: at least the Browns were a bit more progressive in
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Speaker 1: wanting their kids to choose for themselves. But like, is
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Speaker 1: that in alignment with the religion?
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Speaker 3: We didn't get that answer, and to me it seemed like, no,
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Speaker 3: it's not in alignment.
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Speaker 2: Probably not.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if they're not going at this point, we
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Speaker 3: know since they're in Vegas, they're not going to their
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Speaker 3: AUB church anymore because they don't have an AUB base
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Speaker 3: in Vegas, so they're already distancing themselves from this faith.
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Speaker 2: I think at this point. And I think that was what.
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Speaker 3: Was interesting about it about this part in the tell
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Speaker 3: all to me was that this is like a little
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Speaker 3: crack in their faith foundation because now we know the
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Speaker 3: Browns have completely abandoned like the AUB entirely. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Janelle and Mary asked for spiritual releases. I feel like
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Speaker 3: almost as a performative thing, just to get all of
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Speaker 3: their ties out from care from the kid performative.
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Speaker 1: Personally, they wouldn't have gone to like all of that
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Speaker 1: trouble if it didn't mean something to them. I would hope.
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Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, but it's like at this point,
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Speaker 3: my point is like they have completely abandoned the faith.
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Speaker 3: They don't believe in plural marriage anymore, especially Cody, who
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Speaker 3: was championing champions the entire time. Christine was championing this
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Speaker 3: this entire time, and now they're just like, okay, whatever.
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Speaker 3: But in this tell all in season seven, when Tameran's
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Speaker 3: confronting them on it, they all just kind of don't
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Speaker 3: have an answer for why they don't want their kid
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Speaker 3: to or why they don't expect their kids to live polygamy.
18:04
Speaker 3: Now I agree with it. I agree they shouldn't force
18:07
Speaker 3: their kids to live polygamy just because it's their faith.
18:10
Speaker 3: I think it's great that they're progressive, and I think
18:12
Speaker 3: it's great that the Browns have always maintained that. But
18:15
Speaker 3: it is interesting and it is cool to see Tameron
18:19
Speaker 3: press them on something about their faith.
18:21
Speaker 1: Well last season I believe it was and I could
18:24
Speaker 1: be getting this mixed up with Christine's books, so forgive me.
18:27
Speaker 1: Like I recall them saying that the aub was asking
18:32
Speaker 1: Cody like to cut his hair, and they were very
18:35
Speaker 1: strict about certain things, certainly about privacy and not like
18:39
Speaker 1: going public with the lifestyle and the way that the
18:42
Speaker 1: religion works. It would be funny to me if, like,
18:45
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons Cody ultimately breaks his connection
18:49
Speaker 1: with the aub is because they asked him to cut
18:51
Speaker 1: his hair and he just couldn't bring himself to do it,
18:54
Speaker 1: and so he left. But I also think that there
18:57
Speaker 1: are just at this time, there are some cracks in
19:01
Speaker 1: the foundation of their faith, and so maybe that's informing
19:04
Speaker 1: some of the answers that they're not giving in this
19:06
Speaker 1: tell all exactly.
19:08
Speaker 3: And then we segue in the tell all to talking
19:11
Speaker 3: to the kids, and it was more interesting for the
19:14
Speaker 3: older kids in my opinion. Like the younger kids, I'm
19:16
Speaker 3: just like, Okay, we don't need we don't need to
19:18
Speaker 3: ask when about the camera crew, Like she's like eight
19:21
Speaker 3: years old at this point, but whatever. But we start
19:23
Speaker 3: with the older kids, and Tamberin Hall is like, so,
19:26
Speaker 3: I've been doing some digging and some investigative journalism and
19:30
Speaker 3: I've been stalking your instagrams and Logan, do you want
19:33
Speaker 3: to tell me about your first trip?
19:35
Speaker 1: Well, first, Logan's like, well, you didn't find anything on me.
19:37
Speaker 1: I'm not on social media. And she's like, oh, you're not.
19:41
Speaker 1: And they put up these pictures so totally shirtless, his
19:45
Speaker 1: before and after because he's been working out.
19:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's.
19:49
Speaker 1: Got a great physique. He's done to fitness fitness Pizza
19:53
Speaker 1: in my mouth, but he does look great. But I
19:55
Speaker 1: thought that was funny.
19:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of funny. And we kind of
19:59
Speaker 3: talked to all the older kids about what they're doing
20:01
Speaker 3: in their lives and if they want to lift polygamy,
20:04
Speaker 3: and of course most of them are like, no, absolutely not.
20:08
Speaker 3: I think Leon's the only one that's like, yeah, I'm
20:11
Speaker 3: gonna live plural marriage, but like later in my life
20:13
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna be a doctor or whatever or something
20:16
Speaker 3: like that. But we ultimately know that doesn't pan out
20:19
Speaker 3: from Leon. And then Tameron asks them about the kissing
20:24
Speaker 3: conversation that Cody had with McKelty and I think we
20:27
Speaker 3: have to watch the flashback again at one point and
20:30
Speaker 3: Tameron Hall is like, do you guys think kissing's okay?
20:32
Speaker 3: And of course all of these young adult teenagers are like, yeah, we.
20:37
Speaker 1: Do, soaking's okay and Anal's okay, that's not actual sex.
20:42
Speaker 2: Exactly, Just like why are we asking this question?
20:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cringe. I loved though, when they went to McKelty,
20:49
Speaker 1: what about you, mchelt, Like, what's your future plan? She's like,
20:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to New York. I'm gonna be a
20:55
Speaker 1: single mom. I don't want to have a child. I
20:57
Speaker 1: just want to adopt a bunch of kids. I never
20:59
Speaker 1: want to get married. I just want to be in
21:01
Speaker 1: fashion design. Yeah, okay, Like, oh that's so adorable. It
21:06
Speaker 1: is adorable and cringe it is.
21:08
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if I had a camera crew on
21:11
Speaker 3: me at seventeen eighteen, I.
21:13
Speaker 2: Would be so parents because of.
21:15
Speaker 3: The shit that I was saying back then. And then
21:18
Speaker 3: Tamburn sits with the younger kids, of course, and we
21:21
Speaker 3: have to hear from Gwen, who's kind of spazzing out a.
21:24
Speaker 1: Little bit bit, a little quirky. Yeah, and we heard
21:28
Speaker 1: from Brianna, and I don't remember what any of them said.
21:32
Speaker 1: I just remember how adorable Savannah was. I know, like, ultimately,
21:36
Speaker 1: all she says is.
21:37
Speaker 2: I like living in the.
21:38
Speaker 1: Cold des Sact because I can play with somebody all
21:41
Speaker 1: the time, so cutdorable.
21:44
Speaker 3: I was noticing how they were dressed, so like Aurora
21:48
Speaker 3: and Brianna were dressed in their Sunday best and the
21:50
Speaker 3: rest of the kids were just dressed like whatever, kind
21:52
Speaker 3: of casual. But I noticed, even like with the wives
21:55
Speaker 3: and Cody, like Robin was in her nice heels and
21:58
Speaker 3: she had her makeup and her hair did I mean
22:00
Speaker 3: they all did, but she looked very nice and improper,
22:04
Speaker 3: whereas the other wives were just kind of casual Mormon.
22:06
Speaker 1: Casual target casual.
22:08
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, I was just like, I wonder why.
22:11
Speaker 1: Because they are getting more money and they're caught up
22:14
Speaker 1: in appearances.
22:15
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking too, girl.
22:18
Speaker 3: And then we go back to the adults and then
22:20
Speaker 3: we have like a last roundabout of questions. So we
22:25
Speaker 3: start off with the trip to Missouri, which was like
22:27
Speaker 3: the most recent episode basically of the season, and meeting
22:31
Speaker 3: the degenerates, I mean the Richard's family, right, the Christian polygamist.
22:37
Speaker 3: We also have to talk about the septic tank debacle.
22:40
Speaker 2: With the RV.
22:41
Speaker 1: The best highlight of the entire season is Cody getting
22:46
Speaker 1: splashed with shit.
22:50
Speaker 3: Yes, and of course Tameron Hall shows the clip of
22:52
Speaker 3: that again it was so good, which was really great,
22:56
Speaker 3: and then Cody proceeds to blame the boys about it
23:00
Speaker 3: again again, which is so annoying.
23:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, if you don't know that they did it,
23:05
Speaker 1: if we have them on camera saying I didn't do it.
23:08
Speaker 1: I did exactly what you taught me to do, and
23:11
Speaker 1: you're still months later doubling down that the boys must
23:14
Speaker 1: have done it. I just take some responsibility for anything
23:16
Speaker 1: in your life. Cody Brown, is it?
23:19
Speaker 2: He literally can? I know?
23:20
Speaker 1: It's so it drives me crazy.
23:22
Speaker 3: I hate it so much. And then at one point
23:25
Speaker 3: in the conversation about shitwater and misery and the Richard's family,
23:29
Speaker 3: Christine gets kind of uncomfortable and then gets up and leaves.
23:34
Speaker 1: Well, this is weird to me, Yeah, because the way
23:38
Speaker 1: they ultimately present it is that Christine got upset by
23:41
Speaker 1: something and had to like take a break. Yeah, but
23:44
Speaker 1: what it felt like as we watched it was that
23:47
Speaker 1: Christine had to go to the bathroom, Like it's the
23:49
Speaker 1: natural pause in the conversation. Can I just like steal
23:52
Speaker 1: away for a moment.
23:53
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
23:54
Speaker 1: But when we get back, Cameron presents it as something
23:58
Speaker 1: about babies and Robin having more babies, and this somehow
24:04
Speaker 1: upset Christine and she didn't want to talk about it
24:06
Speaker 1: because it is her value that they not talk about
24:10
Speaker 1: when they're gonna have babies or what they're doing with
24:12
Speaker 1: their reproductive systems or I don't know what the problem was.
24:15
Speaker 1: They seem to be okay talking about children within the family.
24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that was about, or if
24:20
Speaker 3: maybe they edited it.
24:22
Speaker 2: Seemed to edit it. It seemed it didn't make fakery.
24:24
Speaker 1: I think she had to pee.
24:25
Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know, but like Tamra was like doing
24:29
Speaker 3: a voiceover, acting like Christine was super uncomfortable and upset
24:33
Speaker 3: by something, and Robin looked mad.
24:36
Speaker 1: And then Robin told her specifically, we don't talk about
24:39
Speaker 1: each other's babies. Yeah, we're not talking about babies in
24:42
Speaker 1: this interview, And like, okay, but you have celebrations when
24:45
Speaker 1: you make pregnancy announcements, So why is this such an issue?
24:48
Speaker 3: Well, and Tambor was framing it like we were going
24:50
Speaker 3: to talk about Robin and Cody's personal private conversation that
24:55
Speaker 3: was caught on camera about her wanting to have a
24:57
Speaker 3: baby and wanting to step away from my Rives closet
25:00
Speaker 3: because it was too much work, right and she needed
25:02
Speaker 3: to have a baby or whatever, and then we were
25:04
Speaker 3: just not going to talk about it. So it's kind
25:06
Speaker 3: of bizarre, So that happened. Christine goes and leaves to
25:10
Speaker 3: pee or something or cry, I don't know, or both,
25:12
Speaker 3: and then comes back. And then we talk about Cody
25:16
Speaker 3: potentially having a fifth wife, and this is like also
25:19
Speaker 3: a nothing burger, because Cody, of course is like, it's
25:21
Speaker 3: not a mast's, it's not a my birth chart to
25:24
Speaker 3: have a fifth wife.
25:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he says more specifically that there's already a
25:30
Speaker 1: time issue, like he's at capacity with how much time
25:33
Speaker 1: he's got to spend with all four of his wives,
25:36
Speaker 1: not to mention his nine thousand children, and he just
25:39
Speaker 1: can't imagine onboarding a fifth wife and like having to
25:42
Speaker 1: figure out the schedule for that. So the answer is no.
25:46
Speaker 3: And fair yeah, because you can't manage the four that
25:48
Speaker 3: you have right now, h obviously. And then we end
25:52
Speaker 3: the tell all with Tameran asking if they think that
25:56
Speaker 3: their family is a success, and everyone just kind of
26:00
Speaker 3: gives like nondescript answers. I think at one point Janelle
26:04
Speaker 3: says something.
26:04
Speaker 2: Like, well, our family has been like.
26:07
Speaker 3: A huge challenge but also the biggest blessing in our lives.
26:10
Speaker 2: But it's been really challenging though.
26:12
Speaker 3: Thanks, And then they say I think Christine says, like
26:15
Speaker 3: with twenty two people in the family, life's never boring
26:19
Speaker 3: the end and.
26:21
Speaker 1: That was the end YEP of the entire season. Well,
26:26
Speaker 1: I think we should give a grade for season seven.
26:29
Speaker 1: It was a short season.
26:31
Speaker 3: It was short, so that bumps it up a little bit. Yeah,
26:34
Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe like a C minus.
26:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did get the shark tanks. Did we get
26:40
Speaker 1: in this season or was it the previous isn't they
26:42
Speaker 1: touched upon? Was it this season?
26:43
Speaker 3: Yeah?
26:44
Speaker 1: That was awesome. That was pure reality television gold. We
26:49
Speaker 1: got Cody being splattered by fecal matter ry those are bars. Yeah,
26:56
Speaker 1: but it's kind of boring. Yeah, and I guess that
27:00
Speaker 1: this season was part of the previous season, like it
27:03
Speaker 1: was all when season, Yeah.
27:05
Speaker 3: Because tamer and Hall at one point in this tell
27:07
Speaker 3: all said they had been on air for five seasons.
27:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said it was the season five tell all.
27:12
Speaker 3: So I think there's some weird shit going on with
27:16
Speaker 3: like Discovery Plus and probably how they upload the episode.
27:20
Speaker 1: And how they're organizing it retroactively. I don't know. I
27:22
Speaker 1: wasn't there for the first time, so I don't know
27:24
Speaker 1: how they played out. But yeah, I thought that this
27:27
Speaker 1: season was kind of boring. I'm really ready to get
27:31
Speaker 1: to the Catfish.
27:32
Speaker 2: I know.
27:32
Speaker 3: Season eight and season nine for sure are crazy because
27:36
Speaker 3: there's just way more tension that you can sense throughout
27:39
Speaker 3: the episodes. And they're in the cul de sac now.
27:41
Speaker 3: So now Christine and Mary, they're seeing how much time
27:46
Speaker 3: Cody spending at Robin's house. Janelle's having her renaissance right now,
27:51
Speaker 3: so she's fine, She's lit.
27:52
Speaker 1: Don't we have some kids getting married soon? Like, isn't
27:55
Speaker 1: Maddie gonna Mary Caleb who she's been dating on the
27:59
Speaker 1: down low in a appropriately since she was a very
28:01
Speaker 1: young girl. Yes, allegedly we have Maddie and Caleb Aspen.
28:06
Speaker 3: I think Aspen gets married. I don't know if she
28:07
Speaker 3: gets married in season eight and nine, though, I think
28:09
Speaker 3: it's later.
28:10
Speaker 1: Is it Maddie? And then MICHELTI because Mickelty gets super competitive?
28:14
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Michelty does want to get married to Tony,
28:17
Speaker 3: and Christine's like super upset by it, by it.
28:19
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get into too many tacos, Tony girl.
28:22
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah.
28:23
Speaker 3: And then also Logan starts dating Michelle at this point,
28:26
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and then they take like a family trip.
28:28
Speaker 2: I remember this.
28:28
Speaker 3: They take a family trip up to Alaska and they
28:30
Speaker 3: act like they're all happy and everything, and it's totally
28:33
Speaker 3: chaotic and ridiculous. So season eight nine I'm excited about.
28:37
Speaker 1: So the trip up to Alaska is also around the
28:40
Speaker 1: time of the Catfish And I remember this because I
28:42
Speaker 1: actually went to Alaska right around the same time when
28:46
Speaker 1: I was watching it, So I don't know when it
28:48
Speaker 1: was filmed, but like I had gone to the restaurant
28:51
Speaker 1: where Mary was telling the rest of the family that
28:53
Speaker 1: she might not stay in the family. I'm like, I
28:55
Speaker 1: was right there. I know exactly where they are and
28:57
Speaker 1: know where their hotel is. So that's probably about the
29:00
Speaker 1: time that I picked up oh full time with sister wife.
29:03
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it me too. Now, I do
29:06
Speaker 1: have one other question for you. I know the answer
29:08
Speaker 1: to it for you, but I also want to ask
29:10
Speaker 1: you and everybody else, did you hear that Welcome to
29:14
Speaker 1: Plath Bill is returning to our televisions March thirty First,
29:20
Speaker 1: they thank yes, bitch, this month they are coming right back.
29:23
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I was up on the reddits
29:26
Speaker 1: and I'm part of like a couple of the Welcome
29:28
Speaker 1: to Plathfull Subs, and they were talking about like, oh yeah, no,
29:32
Speaker 1: TLC said they're discontinuing the show. It's canceled once Olivia exited,
29:38
Speaker 1: they didn't want to do their show anymore. And I
29:40
Speaker 1: was just like, yes, for real, I'd be so upset.
29:43
Speaker 1: Oh God, seven, are you sure about that? Because like,
29:48
Speaker 1: I'm really invested in, like what happens with Kim and
29:52
Speaker 1: her alleged alcoholism and fortification fornication. I am invested in
29:57
Speaker 1: Baboo Bob Berry yeah, and being on the apps and stuff.
30:01
Speaker 1: And I'm invested in Lydia and her potentially gay husband.
30:05
Speaker 1: I'm invested in the rage disorder of Micah Isaac and Ethan. Yeah,
30:10
Speaker 1: like I want to know and also want to know
30:12
Speaker 1: what's going on in Montana.
30:13
Speaker 2: Uh huh with little Mariah? What's going on?
30:15
Speaker 1: You got a mayor? You got yourself a cowboy? I
30:19
Speaker 1: hope so I would love that. I would love that
30:22
Speaker 1: for her anyway, So it's coming back.
30:23
Speaker 2: It is coming back.
30:24
Speaker 1: Did you watch the preview that.
30:25
Speaker 2: I sent her? I watched the preview.
30:27
Speaker 1: What were some of your thoughts.
30:28
Speaker 3: I'm just like, Okay, Kim, I'd be nice. I'm just
30:34
Speaker 3: I'll just leave it that Kim's looking rough and Ken
30:41
Speaker 3: is going to be involved more in this season, it
30:44
Speaker 3: looks like, because there's some scenes with Kim and Ken
30:48
Speaker 3: and then some issues between Kim and Lydia, right which I'm.
30:53
Speaker 1: Very correntified Lydia Plath who has some side of some
30:59
Speaker 1: kind kind of a confrontation with Kim, and I hope
31:03
Speaker 1: she confronts her, and I hope, so you made me
31:06
Speaker 1: take care of all your kids while you were out
31:08
Speaker 1: drinking and fucking this one eyed kN.
31:11
Speaker 3: Not only that, but like you and doctrinated me into
31:14
Speaker 3: this religion and then you just became a cheating alcoholic.
31:17
Speaker 1: Just abandoned it and walked away from the religion.
31:19
Speaker 2: Okay.
31:20
Speaker 1: And I also loved in the previews seeing Lydia coming
31:23
Speaker 1: for the rest of the family because by this point
31:26
Speaker 1: she's seen the footage of them totally dragging her husband, yes, Zach,
31:31
Speaker 1: and so she's pissed about it.
31:32
Speaker 3: And I love that. I think that's great that she's
31:34
Speaker 3: defending her.
31:35
Speaker 1: We need drama, We do need make if we don't
31:38
Speaker 1: have drama, which obviously Olivia brought a lot of drama
31:42
Speaker 1: for sure. Nutcracker, Nutcracker Veronica brought a lot of drama,
31:48
Speaker 1: but without those two women serving all the drama, is
31:52
Speaker 1: there enough inherent in this family amongst the Hitler youth,
31:57
Speaker 1: I think to maintain the drama. I think so I
32:01
Speaker 1: look forward to it.
32:02
Speaker 2: I'm really excited.
32:03
Speaker 1: I actually want them to succeed, because that'll burn Olivia
32:06
Speaker 1: so bad.
32:07
Speaker 2: Oh, she'll be so jealous.
32:09
Speaker 1: She's gonna be recapping every episode. She's gonna be on
32:12
Speaker 1: every podcast. She could possibly prop herself up on Talk
32:15
Speaker 1: and Match it.
32:16
Speaker 2: She's still talking about it on her Instagram.
32:18
Speaker 3: She has nothing in her photography business.
32:21
Speaker 1: Okay, and which Jina trusted boyfriend?
32:23
Speaker 3: I guess I don't even know if they're dating anymore,
32:25
Speaker 3: because she's still traveling the world, like multiple countries.
32:29
Speaker 1: She's subsidizing his travel to Oh I'm sorry, he's got
32:32
Speaker 1: to stay home because he's a dog walker. Yeah, okay, grreact.
32:35
Speaker 3: Well, I'm still dubious about how miss Olivia Plath is
32:39
Speaker 3: able to afford how much she travels. Because she's traveling,
32:42
Speaker 3: is she going to Dubai everywhere?
32:46
Speaker 2: Hopefully not. I'm just wondering hopefully not not right now.
32:49
Speaker 1: I don't know, honey, it looks like it has potential. Yes,
32:54
Speaker 1: I'll see if they can carry a season without the
32:58
Speaker 1: crazy ladies.
32:59
Speaker 2: What if they can.
33:00
Speaker 3: I'm at one point, Oh.
33:01
Speaker 1: My god, I would live. I would I would love it.
33:05
Speaker 1: I know Olivia probably would, yeah, because she loves the
33:09
Speaker 1: same I think Veronica is just evil and wants to
33:12
Speaker 1: spread her demonic energy around the world. So I'm here
33:16
Speaker 1: for whatever they're going to do. We're going to be
33:18
Speaker 1: covering Welcome to plaitfill, which means we're going to properly
33:21
Speaker 1: alienate some of you. Sorry, because everybody can get it
33:25
Speaker 1: on this cast. We've got smoke for absolutely everybody, and
33:28
Speaker 1: we do not hold back.
33:29
Speaker 3: We're too misogynistic apparently inner misogyny.
33:32
Speaker 1: What is it called inter misogyny?
33:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what they call that? I think the kids
33:36
Speaker 2: called it.
33:36
Speaker 1: They called me an inner misogynist. Whatever, bitch. I'm just
33:40
Speaker 1: here watching reality and talking about it. So I look
33:43
Speaker 1: forward to that. Yeah, and that's going to come back
33:46
Speaker 1: right I think around the time that Lovice blind ends,
33:49
Speaker 1: which is perfect timing for the poss So I'm excited.
33:51
Speaker 1: So that's going to be inserted into the schedule everybody, Now,
33:55
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