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The Kenny Report | 2 December · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining the program
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  Speaker 2: again tonight.
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  Speaker 1: E bikes on our streets and footpaths, rising accidents and
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  Speaker 1: deaths across the nation, prompt action more pain on power
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  Speaker 1: prices as the energy regulator confirms the price increases that
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  Speaker 1: are creating pain right across the economy. The Special Envoy
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  Speaker 1: on Islamophobia wants religion excised from the definition of terrorism.
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  Speaker 1: And in the US, the leftist media attacks Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: over his age. Kristen Tate joins me all that lots more,
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  Speaker 1: plus Susio O'Brien and Stephen Center Tiempe.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I've got to tell you I've been worried about
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  Speaker 1: e bikes and e scooters for a long while. I
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  Speaker 1: hate the nanny state, I hate too many laws. But
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  Speaker 1: every day I see people writing recklessly in traffic without helmets.
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  Speaker 1: I see kids speeding around with and without helmets, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: carrying other kids, sometimes at pretty high speeds, on footpaths
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes on roads, mixing it with the traffic. Some
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  Speaker 1: of these things are more like electric motorbikes than assisted pushbikes.
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  Speaker 1: The number of accidents involving various types of e bikes
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  Speaker 1: has been on the rise. There was a tragic death
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  Speaker 1: in the Sydney CBD today.
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  Speaker 3: Emergency services were called to the corner of Little Regent
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  Speaker 3: and George Street at about six a m. Paramedics tried
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  Speaker 3: to save the young man, but he died at the scene.
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  Speaker 3: The twenty eight year old truck driver has been taken
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  Speaker 3: to hospital for mandatory testing. No charges have been laid
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  Speaker 3: after the crash, and e bike operated by company Lime
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  Speaker 3: was seen being taken away from the scene.
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  Speaker 1: Terrible stuff and tragically there will always be accidents, but
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  Speaker 1: with e bikes and e scooters there are a number
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  Speaker 1: of new issues. They're often ridden on paths where they
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  Speaker 1: present risk of course to pedestrians as well.
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  Speaker 2: And other cyclists.
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  Speaker 1: And when they're ridden on the road by unlicensed kids,
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  Speaker 1: well they're often just a motorbike by any other name.
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  Speaker 1: And who let school aged teenagers without a license effectively
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  Speaker 1: ride motorbikes in the traffic. There have been tragic incidents
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  Speaker 1: right across the country.
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  Speaker 4: Please say, an eight year old rider and in the
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  Speaker 4: fifteen year old mail rider were traveling in opposite directions
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  Speaker 4: when they collided head on. The eight year old was
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  Speaker 4: taken to Sunshine Coast University Hospital in a life threatening
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  Speaker 4: condition and later died from his injuries.
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  Speaker 5: A sixty five year old man who was hit by
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  Speaker 5: an e bike on a Western Sydney footpath has died
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  Speaker 5: in hospital. The pedestrian was on Settler's Walk in Tunngabby
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  Speaker 5: on Wednesday night when he was struck and left with
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  Speaker 5: critical injuries.
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  Speaker 6: An e bike rider has been killed in a crash
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  Speaker 6: in Melbourne's North. He was traveling at high speed on
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  Speaker 6: the wrong side of Edward Street in Reservoir, hitting a
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  Speaker 6: car as it turned out from a side street.
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  Speaker 7: A walk home from the shops turned deadly.
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  Speaker 3: The sixty nine year old was crossing Frankston Flinders Road
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  Speaker 3: in Hastings just before seven last night when he was
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  Speaker 3: struck by speeding e bike.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is of course a state government area and
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  Speaker 1: the New South Wales government.
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  Speaker 2: Is looking at new laws, but some.
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  Speaker 1: Of these bikes are illegal already, so enforcement is also
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  Speaker 1: an issue. Overseas governments are trying to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: same problem. I'll speak to a police expert in just
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  Speaker 1: a few minutes. But especially for kids, this is another
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  Speaker 1: issue where parental supervision surely is crucial. I've got to
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  Speaker 1: say bikes. Normal push bikes are dangerous enough for kids.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon, stick to pedals, use your legs, boost your
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  Speaker 1: strength and fitness. An electric motor is just not what
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  Speaker 1: most healthy young kids need.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'd like to go a night or.
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  Speaker 1: Two without mentioning the ABC, but really they just keep
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  Speaker 1: coming up with egregious transgressions and someone's going to try
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  Speaker 1: to hold them to account. And today on social media,
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  Speaker 1: I saw a so called fact check from the ABC's
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Ferguson that was just so wrong, and of course
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  Speaker 1: it was misleading about one of the biggest issues facing
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  Speaker 1: the nation and the hottest political battleground.
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  Speaker 2: Check this out for a statement.
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  Speaker 8: Power bills are high, but the rollout of renewables are
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  Speaker 8: not the cause.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ferguson was trying to call out the opposition leader
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lee Surprise Surprise, for blaming escalating power prices on
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  Speaker 1: additional transmission for renewables, which is only a small part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem. Sure, although it will only get worse.
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  Speaker 1: But that statement from Ferguson and the ABC was blatant
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  Speaker 1: and strong, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 8: Power bills are high, but the rollout of renewables are
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  Speaker 8: not the cause.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's drill into that a bit. Here's more of
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  Speaker 2: the post.
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  Speaker 8: According to the experts and the regulator, the wholesale price
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  Speaker 8: of electricity rose sharply when the war in Ukraine broke out,
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  Speaker 8: sending the cost of coal and gas globally through the roof.
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  Speaker 8: And as coal fired power stations have become more and
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  Speaker 8: more unreliable, other forms of energy have been needed to
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  Speaker 8: fill the gap, including gas. In the last decade, the
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  Speaker 8: cost of gas has tripled.
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  Speaker 1: The Ukraine War started years ago, and prices did go
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  Speaker 1: up initially, but then they fell. And more to the point,
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  Speaker 1: why have coal fired power stations shut down or been
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  Speaker 1: forced to work harder? Well, because the policies and the
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  Speaker 1: market rules designed to push renewables are designed to force
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  Speaker 1: coal out.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, the coal.
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  Speaker 1: Issues are a direct result of the renewables push. You
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  Speaker 1: can't just pretend that coal is in strife as some
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  Speaker 1: kind of separate, unrelated issue. And as for gas, well,
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  Speaker 1: that too is affected by renewables because gas generators chime
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  Speaker 1: in and out when renewables aren't working, so that affects
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  Speaker 1: the price at which they can purchase their gas, and
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  Speaker 1: it means they make hay while the sun doesn't shine
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  Speaker 1: and the wind doesn't blow. Then there's the network costs,
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  Speaker 1: including transmission.
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  Speaker 8: According to the experts, only a tiny proportion of the
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  Speaker 8: network costs now go to pay for transmission for renewables. Obviously,
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  Speaker 8: as the renewables roll out continues, those prices will go up.
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  Speaker 8: For now, the existing energy system has a grid that
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  Speaker 8: needs to be upgraded, that needs to be paid for,
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  Speaker 8: and you pay for it in your bill.
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  Speaker 1: Well, tiny six percent and rising. But yeah, transmission costs
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  Speaker 1: are not the main cause of price rises now, but
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  Speaker 1: they are a factor, and the going to get a
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  Speaker 1: lot worse as more and more transmission.
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  Speaker 2: Is rolled out.
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  Speaker 1: The other fact that is how the massive push to
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  Speaker 1: install another kind of renewable energy, solar energy, is pushing
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  Speaker 1: more of the network costs onto other consumers. Here's an
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  Speaker 1: explainer from the Center for Independent Studies.
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  Speaker 9: Turns out these solar customers are earning seven hundred to
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  Speaker 9: twelve hundred dollars more in annual bill savings then the
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  Speaker 9: actual value their generation is providing to the grid. Now,
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  Speaker 9: if you don't have rooftop solo, you might be thinking, well,
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  Speaker 9: good for them, but why should I care? You should
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  Speaker 9: care because the money rooftop solo owners are saving is
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  Speaker 9: being taken out of your wallet. Network companies who build
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  Speaker 9: and maintain our grids, poles and wires are regulated monopolies.
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  Speaker 9: These companies have an improved amount of revenue they can
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  Speaker 9: recoup from customers every year. So if one group of
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  Speaker 9: customers is saving too much on their bills, another group
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  Speaker 9: will have to pay more to make up the difference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the solar rooftop power creates problems for grid management.
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  Speaker 1: It still requires the grid infrastructure, but it often pushes
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  Speaker 1: those costs onto others.
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  Speaker 2: He is more from the cis.
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  Speaker 9: We have two customers. Larry installs air con while Mark
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  Speaker 9: installs rooftop solar. Now Larry uses aircon to get through
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  Speaker 9: hot summer evenings, so he ends up contributing more to
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  Speaker 9: forecast critical pick demand than before. That means he causes
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  Speaker 9: network costs to go up, But because Larry's total consumption
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  Speaker 9: also increases, he pays more in network charges, which are
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  Speaker 9: mostly based on consumption. Everything is going in the right direction,
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  Speaker 9: but Mark is a different story. Here's rooftop solar system
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  Speaker 9: doesn't reduce his contribution to forecast critical pick demand, and
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  Speaker 9: Mark's solar panels put pressure on the grid by adding
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  Speaker 9: to the glut of solar power in the middle of
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  Speaker 9: the day, increasing network costs. But because his total consumption
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  Speaker 9: from the grid goes down as he self consumed solar energy,
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  Speaker 9: his network charges also go down. Things are going in
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  Speaker 9: the wrong direction. Mark is saving on the network portion
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  Speaker 9: of his bill when, if anything, he should be paying
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  Speaker 9: more than before. This distorted price signal is pushing up
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  Speaker 9: bills for everyone who doesn't have riftop solar, which incentivizes
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  Speaker 9: even more people to get rooftop solar, and the vicious
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  Speaker 9: cycle continues.
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  Speaker 1: There you have it, just another way that the renewables
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  Speaker 1: push is forcing retail electricity prices up.
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  Speaker 2: It's silly to deny this. We all know that we.
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  Speaker 1: Used to have some of the world's cheapest and most
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  Speaker 1: reliable power, and that's no longer the case.
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  Speaker 2: Prices have doubled.
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  Speaker 1: There are many factors at play, and sure fluctuations in
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  Speaker 1: fossil fuel prices play a role, but most of the
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  Speaker 1: factors are related to the renewables energy push and the experts.
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  Speaker 1: All the experts tell us that the continued roll out,
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  Speaker 1: especially of trans mission, will only make that worse.
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  Speaker 2: So for the ABC to say this.
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  Speaker 8: Power bills are high, but the roll out of renewables
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  Speaker 8: are not the cause.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's just wrong, and that was in a fact check,
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  Speaker 1: and it's typical of the ABC's political bias, backing the
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  Speaker 1: renewable energy push as an ideological obsession rather than reporting
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  Speaker 1: it objectively and advocating for practical outcomes. You probably don't
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  Speaker 1: need to be reminded about the threat of terrorism in
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  Speaker 1: this country. The current terror threat level is at probable
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  Speaker 1: and we've seen more than a dozen terror attacks on
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  Speaker 1: home soil in the past couple of decades, and others, of.
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  Speaker 2: Course, have been thwarted.
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  Speaker 1: Most of these attacks have involved Islamist extremism.
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  Speaker 2: No one needs to remind me about this threat.
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  Speaker 1: I went to Bali after both Ballei bombings, I went
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  Speaker 1: to Jakarta when our embassy was bombed.
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  Speaker 2: And as for attacks at home.
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  Speaker 1: I was one of the last people to walk out
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  Speaker 1: of the Link cafe in Martin Place before the terrorists
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  Speaker 1: pulled his gun. What a horrific time that was. Despite
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  Speaker 1: this traumatic history, there's a push from some now to
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  Speaker 1: change the.
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  Speaker 2: Definition of terrorism in our laws. Now.
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  Speaker 1: As you can see here in the law, the definition
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  Speaker 1: currently refers to acts that cause death or serious harm
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  Speaker 1: or endangered people, property, or critical infrastructure. And if these
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  Speaker 1: acts are done to advance a political, religious, or ideological cause,
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  Speaker 1: and of course that the act aims to intimidate the
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  Speaker 1: public or governments. Now, who would have thought that this
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  Speaker 1: definition is controversial. It makes no reference to which political
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  Speaker 1: or religious or ideological causes are pushed. It defines the
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  Speaker 1: essence of terrorism violence perpetrated not for personal gain or
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  Speaker 1: random hatred, but carried out to advance a particular cause.
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  Speaker 1: Yet now there's a push to get rid of this
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  Speaker 1: reference to religious motivation, and today the Albanese labor governments
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  Speaker 1: special envoid to combat Islamophobia, after Malik argued for that change.
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  Speaker 7: From some community itself understands the actions by individuals who
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  Speaker 7: are committing an act of terror not to be from
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  Speaker 7: the religion, from ideological and fringe elements. For wider society
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  Speaker 7: sees and here is Muslims recite you know, God's name
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  Speaker 7: or Allah Hua kabata and assume that to be religious.
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  Speaker 7: So from them some community perspective, it is not religious.
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  Speaker 7: These are actually fringe ideological movements and from the wider
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  Speaker 7: society they need to to be religious. Are my submission
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  Speaker 7: try to go somewhere to explain why these acts are
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  Speaker 7: not indeed religious acts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, of course they are not religious acts. On
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  Speaker 1: that we can agree, because this is an act of terrorism,
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  Speaker 1: and often, far too often, tragically, the terrorism we see
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  Speaker 1: is conducted by Islamists extremists. Not always, of course, but
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  Speaker 1: often it's Islamist extremist terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: We're dealing with.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not to say the religion of Islam supports terrorism,
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  Speaker 1: or that all Muslims do. We all understand that Islamist
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  Speaker 1: extremism hijacks the religion and hurts Muslims in many ways.
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  Speaker 1: We get that, but we can't deny reality. And the
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  Speaker 1: reality is that Islamist extremism is our major terrorism threat.
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  Speaker 1: This is a terrible thing for Muslims, just as it
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  Speaker 1: is for the rest of us. But denying it or
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  Speaker 1: hiding from that reality won't help us fight it.
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  Speaker 2: Or make it go away.
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  Speaker 1: And besides, there are other types of terrorism motivated by
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  Speaker 1: other religious causes, so this definition is not specific to
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  Speaker 1: any one faith. The government and our community need to
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  Speaker 1: keep the existing definition and concentrate on fighting the scourge
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  Speaker 1: of extremism. I want to go back now to that
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  Speaker 1: shocking story out of Sydney where a man in these
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  Speaker 1: thirties has died after he was hit by a garbage
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  Speaker 1: truck while riding an eed bike near Sydney, CBD. The
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  Speaker 1: accident happened a few hours before the New South Wales
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  Speaker 1: government actually announced new rules limiting the power of e
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  Speaker 1: bikes to two hundred and fifty watts, down from five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go to Assistant Commissioner David Driver from the
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales Police Traffic and Highway Police Patrol Command.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining news, David, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of e bike accidents around the
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  Speaker 1: country in New South Wales but in all the other
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  Speaker 1: states as well. Fatalities of course, sometimes occurring on the road,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes occurring.
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  Speaker 2: On paths and footpaths.
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  Speaker 1: How would you describe these devices, these vehicles, the change
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  Speaker 1: they've made to traffic management and traffic safety in the country.
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  Speaker 10: Well, e bikes themselves are treated as bicycles. It's only
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  Speaker 10: when they're too powerful that they become an unregistered motorbike.
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  Speaker 10: So most people do the right thing and they're compliant
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  Speaker 10: with the law. But unfortunately we have seen a number
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  Speaker 10: of e bikes that have been purchased that exceed the
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  Speaker 10: power output or indeed have been modified to exceed the
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  Speaker 10: power power output, and that effectively makes them a motorcycle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's deal with that first, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: the new laws in New South Wales are going to
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  Speaker 1: deal with, reducing the amount of power that's legal. But
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  Speaker 1: those laws are already in place in other states. Yet
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  Speaker 1: there are these illegal faster bikes. How much of a
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  Speaker 1: problem are they And of course the difficulty for you,
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  Speaker 1: and that is enforcing the law, is tracking them down
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  Speaker 1: and getting rid of them.
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  Speaker 2: Look, yeah, they are a problem.
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  Speaker 10: That the biggest safety issue is that the vehicles were
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  Speaker 10: not designed to travel at the speeds they're capable of. Now,
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  Speaker 10: some of them have got two killer what motive, so
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  Speaker 10: four times their legal power at the moment in New
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  Speaker 10: South Wales, so they're meant to be not exceeding five
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  Speaker 10: hundred watts, and some of them are two thousand watts.
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  Speaker 10: So if they're crashed, often the protective equipment isn't appropriate
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  Speaker 10: for the speed at which they're traveling, nor is the
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  Speaker 10: bike designed to go that fast. So some of them
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  Speaker 10: are capable of quite high speeds, which creates a significant
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  Speaker 10: danger and We just want people to make sure that
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  Speaker 10: if they are purchasing a bike in particularly this Christmas period,
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  Speaker 10: that they purchase one that complies with New South Wales's
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  Speaker 10: law and the person is capable of riding it. It's
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  Speaker 10: one thing to buy a bike, it's another thing to
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  Speaker 10: one to be able to ride it. And e bike
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  Speaker 10: gives you a different sensation when you pedal and it
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  Speaker 10: takes off under its own power, it'll be a new sensation.
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  Speaker 10: So we don't want people to overcomplicate their learning by
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  Speaker 10: having a deal with traffic, other bikes, pedestrians, etc. They
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  Speaker 10: should learn how to ride the bike first and then
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  Speaker 10: change the environment which they're riding, but learn in a
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  Speaker 10: safe area.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's the other aspect I want to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you're.
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  Speaker 1: Operating under the law at the moment, you have unlicensed
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  Speaker 1: teenagers often using these e bikes on the roads, riding
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  Speaker 1: them around in traffic. Now, sure they'll do that on
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  Speaker 1: push bikes as well, but these things.
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  Speaker 2: Are quicker and more powerful.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a concern there that unlicensed kids are riding
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  Speaker 1: them almost like motorbikes on the streets.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, look, of course it's a concern and you know
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  Speaker 10: if they're performing wheel stands or riding them furiously or
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  Speaker 10: way too fast. Another issue is they're being ridden at
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  Speaker 10: night without appropriate lighting. They do present a danger and
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  Speaker 10: we don't want to be knocking on people's door and
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  Speaker 10: giving them a message that they don't want to hear.
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  Speaker 10: We want everyone to get home safely. Indeed, ride bicycles safely.
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  Speaker 10: But there's an obligation on the road users, on the
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  Speaker 10: e bike users and indeed those that purchase the bikes
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  Speaker 10: to check to make sure they are compliant. And it's
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  Speaker 10: not a set and forget. It's important that they can
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  Speaker 10: they buy the bike and make sure that they're not
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  Speaker 10: modified in the future. Some of them are modified by
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  Speaker 10: changing a four digit pin code and that can be
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  Speaker 10: done very very quickly. Others put bigger motors on them
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  Speaker 10: and that just creates a massive danger.
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  Speaker 1: Just briefly, it is safer for kids to be riding
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  Speaker 1: on the footpath or on other paths. What about the
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  Speaker 1: risk to the pedestrians. We've seen a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: pedestrians here.
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  Speaker 10: Well. Children under the age of sixteen can ride on
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  Speaker 10: the footpath and an adult that is supervising them can
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  Speaker 10: also ride on the footpath, but beyond that, if you're
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  Speaker 10: over sixteen, you must ride on the road, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 10: the bikes are prohibited.
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  Speaker 2: By a by law or something like that.
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  Speaker 10: But it does create an issue if pedestrians are struck
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  Speaker 10: by any vehicle, whether it be a bicycle or a vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as we add speed and.
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  Speaker 10: Weight, that creates a danger for everyone. So it's important
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  Speaker 10: that everyone's patient.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, thanks for joining us, Assistant Commissioner. I appreciate David
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  Speaker 1: Driver there from the New South Wales Police. As I say,
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  Speaker 1: those restricted power laws are in place in other states.
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  Speaker 1: They're coming down now in New South Wales. But a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: lot of e bikes out there illegally more powerful.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Keep an eye up for that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back to an issue I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: raised with you last week about how the Prime Minister
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and his ministers have refused to apologize for their vicious
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: accusations of a coalition political cover up over the Britney
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Higgins rape allegations.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Now, even though in separate.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Cases, a Federal Court judge and a Western Australian Supreme
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Court judge have ruled that there was no cover.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Up and the claims of a cover up were dishonest.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: The Labor leadership is refusing to budge or even answer questions.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Here was the Prime Minister last month.
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: Should your senators who led the charge of a Liberal
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: Party cover.
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: Up over the Higgins pay apologize to the threads?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not right.
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: I don't accept that characterization.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: What don't you accept? I don't accept.
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: I don't accept you accepted that. I don't accept. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: don't accept that characterization. I don't accept that characterization. A
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: judge found that on the basis of probability a rape occurred.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Found hang on, a rape occurred in That is what.
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: A judge found on the balance of probability in a
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: ministerial office in parlmer House.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty big issue.
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: But isn't it separate to the allegations of a cover up?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that is a pretty big issue.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That isn't no answers there?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And last night the Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong, who
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: was one of the main agitators pushing the cover up claim,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: well she was asked about the issue in centive estimates.
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: So, given the findings of the two superior Australian courts,
• 21:07
  Speaker 14: will you now acknowledge that accusations by you and your
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: government of a cover up were in fact unfounded.
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: Well, I've already given that answer. I've said the independence
• 21:22
  Speaker 15: of the Jujitiary is in a central element of the
• 21:24
  Speaker 15: Westminster system, so too his accountability to the Parliament and
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: the role of the opposition. And I would note, as
• 21:33
  Speaker 15: I said previously, you may not be asking questions about
• 21:39
  Speaker 15: the issue meaning a young woman's sexual assault, but that
• 21:48
  Speaker 15: is at the heart of this matter.
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: I take the issue of that sexual assault very very seriously, Minister,
• 21:56
  Speaker 14: very seriously, but that is not what I'm asking about.
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: And I draw to your attention your comments on several
• 22:05
  Speaker 14: occasions where you made the accusation of a cover up,
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: and so I'm just asking, on the basis of the
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: findings of these two courts, are you prepared to admit
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: that those accusations made by you on many occasions were unfounded.
• 22:22
  Speaker 15: I'd refer you to my previous answers.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Senator Wow, just like the PM, no answers, no apology,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just using the horrible rape case as cover to avoid
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the point.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Pretty grubby, isn't it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: This's got a shadow Cabinet Secretary Zoe Mackenzie Good to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: talk to you, Zoe joining us from the Victoria in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: your elector just on this issue. You've got Penny Wong
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and others in Labor had accused a Liberal minister in
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Linda Reynolds and a chief of staff fionder Brown. They
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: accused two women of a political cover up of an
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: alleged rape. It's a very vicious accusation, now proven through
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: two court cases not to be true. Is the coalition
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: going to continue to push Anthony Alberinezi and his government
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: for at least an apology?
• 23:27
  Speaker 16: I think Anne Rustin was being as clear as you
• 23:30
  Speaker 16: could possibly be to differentiate the two matters at hand,
• 23:35
  Speaker 16: one the allegation of sexual assault in the building, the
• 23:39
  Speaker 16: other relating to the accountability of processes and indeed the
• 23:44
  Speaker 16: actions of a couple of senators.
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: She was very clear about making the distinction, as.
• 23:50
  Speaker 16: Was I think the journalist in the previous excerpt that
• 23:53
  Speaker 16: you had. So the questions are being asked reasonably, clearly
• 23:59
  Speaker 16: and ply, and the answers we're getting back are pure fumbles.
• 24:05
  Speaker 16: So they're doing the right thing and asking these questions
• 24:07
  Speaker 16: in estimates, and I think the Australian people deserve transparent
• 24:13
  Speaker 16: and honest answers, and so we'll see what comes out
• 24:16
  Speaker 16: in coming days as these questions continue.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of the lowest things you could
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: accuse of a female politician of doing, of covering up
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: an alleged rape, and it's been proven not to be true,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: yet they let it stand there. I think it's disgusting
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and I've got a chance.
• 24:32
  Speaker 16: Say, Chris, you and i've probably both worked with Fiona Brown.
• 24:35
  Speaker 16: I know a fewer people of greater integrity, attention to
• 24:39
  Speaker 16: detail protocol following. She's dogmatic in it. That's been my
• 24:44
  Speaker 16: experience of working with her in over the last sort
• 24:47
  Speaker 16: of twenty years, and so I really hope that Fiona's
• 24:53
  Speaker 16: explanations are well understood in public and respected well.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Certainly courts have found that. I don't know, but I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: do know Linda Reynolds quite well. And we'll keep on
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: this case.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the electricity debate, and a report
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: out today from the Energy Regulator.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Confirms what everybody knows.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: But it's there in cold hard print, the factual verdict
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: if you like, that power prices have gone up under
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the Albanesi Labor government by upwards of.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: One thousand dollars. They promised to reduce them by two
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five and they've gone.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Up by four times and sometimes more than that. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a tragic indictment, isn't it. On electricity prices, no wonder.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: We've got an inflation problem for starters.
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: And let me tell you what that looks like in
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: an electorate like mine.
• 25:39
  Speaker 16: Susan Lee came to Flinders yesterday and we made two visits.
• 25:43
  Speaker 13: The first was to the Southern Community.
• 25:46
  Speaker 16: Support Center, which basically helps people find shelter, provide emergency
• 25:51
  Speaker 16: food rations, gives them access to showers and washing machines
• 25:55
  Speaker 16: to wash their possessions. But it has an energy mentor
• 25:59
  Speaker 16: on site, that is, somebody who can help them navigate
• 26:02
  Speaker 16: utilities that they can no longer afford and help them
• 26:05
  Speaker 16: seek the rebates that may be available from state and
• 26:09
  Speaker 16: commonwealth systems. They're doing that because they have to, because
• 26:13
  Speaker 16: people can't meet their bills anymore. After that, we went
• 26:16
  Speaker 16: to Gazola Farms, where it's one of the greatest agricultural
• 26:20
  Speaker 16: producers in our country, serving the Eastern seaboard with its
• 26:24
  Speaker 16: best broccoli and bocktroy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: And celery and all the good things.
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: But it paid three hundred thousand dollars plus GST to
• 26:31
  Speaker 16: put about one hundred and fifty kilowatts of solar on
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: its roofs to power particularly the refrigeration that it needs
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: on site. And originally, you know, the annual electricity bills
• 26:41
  Speaker 16: went down from about one hundred and fifty to aboute
• 26:43
  Speaker 16: hundred excellent.
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: They're now well over two hundred.
• 26:46
  Speaker 16: So even when you do what you can to mitigate
• 26:49
  Speaker 16: the cost, it's still all heading north and having a
• 26:54
  Speaker 16: major impact on what eventually becomes the prices people pay
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: for their everyday goods.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and ironically, the government announced today it's artificial intelligent plan.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you are data centers in this country,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: good luck unless you've got affordable, reliable energy.
• 27:11
  Speaker 16: And I think you just said artificial intelligent as some
• 27:13
  Speaker 16: kind of possible pun, Chris, because it's not always so
• 27:16
  Speaker 16: intelligent what's coming out of this government. And indeed, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 16: we need to be an energy abundant country to be
• 27:23
  Speaker 16: able to bring data centers to this country. We are
• 27:25
  Speaker 16: considered one of the safest place to put them, but
• 27:29
  Speaker 16: we must have a security of a reliable and affordable
• 27:33
  Speaker 16: energy source within the Australian.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Economy spot on. Thanks for joining us.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Zoe will catch you next time. Zoeen McKenzie The Live
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: from the Mornington Peninsula.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: We've got to take a break.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: On the other side, we catch up with Tim Blair
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: as support for what Nation surger is especially among blocks
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: who are younger blokes than previously. Let's catch up with
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Tim Blair in the Western Victoria. Good to talk to you, Tim,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: keen to talk about your column again. I love the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: way you highlighted that seemingly every time the Coalition loses government.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: There's always the end of the Liberal Party.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: There's so many commentators sort of prepared to predict the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: end of the Liberal Party. Of course, when Labor wins elections,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it's always democracy writing itself, proving how effective it is.
• 28:23
  Speaker 17: Absolutely and it's also a parallel to that is the
• 28:28
  Speaker 17: fact that when Labor wins, it's incumbent upon the Liberal
• 28:31
  Speaker 17: Party to change all their policies to affect those of
• 28:34
  Speaker 17: the Labor Party. When John Howard wins four elections in
• 28:39
  Speaker 17: a row, or when the Coalition is in power for
• 28:42
  Speaker 17: consecutive to nine years, oh no, no, no, no, to
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: stick to the stick to the true belief you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 17: got to hang tough. But everything she has been Labor's
• 28:51
  Speaker 17: in charge exactly.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Indeed, I think what's missing in the debate at the moment,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and no one would want to underestimate the challenge for coalition.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You know, a record low vote and they've really got
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to get their act together. But it's almost a record
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: low vote for Labor. Means it's a sort of vote
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that only a decade or two ago would have seen
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: them trounced.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, the primary vote for.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Both major parties is appalling, so they both need to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously Labor helped out by big Green vote, lots of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: preferences with the Teals as well, but both major parties
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have really lost a lot.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Of supporters absolutely.
• 29:31
  Speaker 17: I mean, you look back to the mid seventies and
• 29:34
  Speaker 17: Whitlam getting stomped and I think his vote was closer
• 29:38
  Speaker 17: to forty than thirty percent, which is what gave Albanzi
• 29:42
  Speaker 17: his you know, colossal victory. So things have changed, obviously
• 29:45
  Speaker 17: with the fracturing of things, with the emergence of a
• 29:48
  Speaker 17: lot of minor parties. But it's not as though the
• 29:51
  Speaker 17: minor parties luring people just because they're there. They're luring
• 29:56
  Speaker 17: them because they're disenchanted with the major parties. That I mean,
• 30:00
  Speaker 17: there are always other options, but now they're being accepted.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's what's happening with One Nation, for instance,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and a new polling out today showing one in four
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: blokes in their fifties and sixties are voting or at
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: least in polling saying they would vote for One Nation,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: which is a big number, more men than women. But
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it is a protest vote, and it's a long way
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: from an election. So people are telling posters they favor
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: One Nation because they're obviously fed up with what the coalition.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Is doing and they want to be anti labor.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So I mean, good luck to Paul Enhanson for providing
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that option, but it's hardly surprising.
• 30:42
  Speaker 17: Yes, gen X, my own generation obviously very youthful and energetic,
• 30:47
  Speaker 17: and now we've got the voice of youth One Nation
• 30:51
  Speaker 17: leading the way for us. It is in a way
• 30:55
  Speaker 17: a protest vote, but if it becomes a big enough one,
• 30:58
  Speaker 17: it becomes a self fulfilling thing. It becomes self generating
• 31:01
  Speaker 17: and potentially powered delivering thing, or at least a significant
• 31:06
  Speaker 17: enough of a swing that it can not just change
• 31:10
  Speaker 17: the policies of the coalition but actually changed the direction
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: of the party in terms of its parliamentary power. So
• 31:16
  Speaker 17: let's see how this, let's how this travels.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's no doubt that you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: would expect them to still poll pretty well at the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: next election. I would have thought initially you'll see more senators.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: They could become almost as influential in the Senate as
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the Greens are.
• 31:33
  Speaker 17: Well, just the Greens have shown how to do this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 17: It's the one thing they have shown us how to do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 17: You know, they haven't shown us much about, you know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 17: how to run an effective economy, or how to generate power,
• 31:45
  Speaker 17: or how to maintain basic standards a personal hygiene. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 17: they've shown us how to boss the Senate around. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 17: if one nation can con dupilicate that, if they've got
• 31:53
  Speaker 17: the party discipline, which is, to give the Greens the credit,
• 31:56
  Speaker 17: they do have a lot of party discipline, at least
• 31:58
  Speaker 17: in the Senate and at least on the sort of
• 32:01
  Speaker 17: brutal political way they'd my nation, that can really be
• 32:05
  Speaker 17: quite the palmerhouse.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: They've also shown this, i think, how to take a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: salmon into the Senate.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: So they've got the fish slapping down bad as well.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Thanksually joining us. Tim will catch up with you later
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: in the week. Tim Blair that you can read his
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: stuff on the Daily Telegraph.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: We're going to get to a break on the other side,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we'll catch up with Kristen Tate in the US where
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the less leftist media then ow who were so quiet
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on Joe Biden.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Now I reckon Donald Trump's over the hill.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I'll cross their Christian in the US in just a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: moment where the immigration crackdown continues, after authorities revealed the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Afghan suspect in the National Guards shooting in Washington, DC
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: was radicalized in the US, Homeland Secretary Christie Noam isn't
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: taking any chances here, she is speaking with the NBC.
• 32:52
  Speaker 18: The President is absolutely determined to stop all processes at
• 32:56
  Speaker 18: this point in time from third world countries until we
• 32:59
  Speaker 18: can have a thorough opportunity to go through these individuals
• 33:03
  Speaker 18: know that they're here for the right intentions and that
• 33:05
  Speaker 18: they even should be in our country to begin with.
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: He's putting Americans first, their safety first.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Hell of a correct down, I'm going on Donald Trump.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: We know has already been tough on border control and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: illegal immigration, but as our US contributor Christen Tite explains
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he's getting even tougher.
• 33:25
  Speaker 19: Yeah, this latest round of toughness comes after this Afghan
• 33:29
  Speaker 19: national who came to the United States by the way,
• 33:31
  Speaker 19: amid Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, open fire on two
• 33:37
  Speaker 19: National Guard troops. One of those individuals died, the other
• 33:40
  Speaker 19: is in critical condition in the hospital. Just before we
• 33:44
  Speaker 19: went to air I was on Twitter and saw Christinome
• 33:46
  Speaker 19: put out another statement. She is saying that she just
• 33:50
  Speaker 19: met with President Trump and she's recommending a full travel
• 33:53
  Speaker 19: ban on every nation that is quote flooding our nation
• 33:56
  Speaker 19: with killers, leeches, and entitlement junkies. So this is going
• 34:00
  Speaker 19: to be potentially a very wide ranging ban on travel
• 34:04
  Speaker 19: from countries that have not been specified yet, I suppose.
• 34:07
  Speaker 19: But I have to tell you, Chris, this is supported
• 34:10
  Speaker 19: by the vast majority of the MAGA voter base. Something
• 34:14
  Speaker 19: needs to change. And God bless Donald Trump for stepping
• 34:17
  Speaker 19: up and saying, hey, you know, there are a lot
• 34:19
  Speaker 19: of great immigrants on an individual level, but this country
• 34:23
  Speaker 19: just cannot have wide open borders and we're going to fix.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That in Trump term.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: One way back then, what was called a Muslim band
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: migration ban was really a ban on countries immigrants from
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: countries where there was a lot of trouble with Islamist
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: extremist terrorism. This lightest band taking it to a travel
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: ban rather than just a migration band. It's going to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: be framed in the same way, isn't it, Because it's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: going to be largely countries where Islamist extremism is a problem.
• 34:52
  Speaker 19: Yes, of course. And I do think, however, that the
• 34:57
  Speaker 19: kind of panic that the media will be able to
• 34:59
  Speaker 19: create because of this will be much less significant than
• 35:02
  Speaker 19: when they did it during the first Trump administration.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the focus on the president,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the Trump hysteria, the Trump derangement syndrome.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: It seems to be still pretty.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Stronger than New York Times, because they've come out with
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: a piece attacking him really over a lower performance because
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of his age, of all things. They're saying that compared
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to his first term, Donald Trump is starting his day
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: later and finishing at the same time. They seem to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: suggest he's a bit tired and old. But I would
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: have thought observing him from Afar, it doesn't seem to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: be the case.
• 35:39
  Speaker 19: Of course, And these are the same liars who told
• 35:42
  Speaker 19: us for four straight years that Biden had never been sharper,
• 35:46
  Speaker 19: and he was really on it, and he was just,
• 35:49
  Speaker 19: you know, so sharp, and we all should stop talking
• 35:52
  Speaker 19: about any concerns about his health. How dare you talk
• 35:54
  Speaker 19: about that? Meanwhile, the whole country's sitting there watching an
• 35:57
  Speaker 19: actual vegetable be wheeled on the stage, and we have
• 36:00
  Speaker 19: no idea who's making decisions and actually running the United
• 36:03
  Speaker 19: States of America. It's those seen people who wag their
• 36:06
  Speaker 19: fingers at us for asking questions now talking about concerns
• 36:10
  Speaker 19: about President Trump, who we are all watching being very energetic,
• 36:15
  Speaker 19: he's very accessible to the press, He's constantly out there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 19: He's involved personally in almost every major issue we're talking
• 36:22
  Speaker 19: about as a nation. It's just laughable, Chris, it is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Extraordinary to watch.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at some pictures here of Joe
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Biden stumbling up the stairs. These are the sorts of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: pictures we've seen many times before, and of course, when
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: this occurred during his term as president, a lot of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the media were simply defending him. Have a look at
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: this pcre from the New York Times, where they tell
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: us that he's one hundred percent fine, He's doing one
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: hundred percent while he's boarding Air Force one. That's important
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: context because the reporter who wrote that story is the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: same reporter for The New York Times who's been saying
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is slowing down. Waite House Press sick
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt had a bit of fun with that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 37:04
  Speaker 20: It's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the
• 37:07
  Speaker 20: same outlet and the same reporter who wrote this Biden
• 37:11
  Speaker 20: is doing one hundred percent fine after tripping while boarding
• 37:15
  Speaker 20: Air Force one. Oh same outlet, same reporter who wrote
• 37:19
  Speaker 20: that President Trump is not fit for the job?
• 37:21
  Speaker 19: Are you kidding me?
• 37:22
  Speaker 13: You all see him almost.
• 37:23
  Speaker 20: Every single day. He is the most accessible president in history.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: The hypocrisy is just astounding.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm all for scrutiny on a president and let's
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: question whether or not they're up.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: To the job.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But the contrast here by the same leftist media is
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: just laughable.
• 37:41
  Speaker 19: It's great, though, because these people have no relevance anymore.
• 37:44
  Speaker 19: No one cares about what these people at the New
• 37:46
  Speaker 19: York Times think or say anymore. Nobody under the age
• 37:50
  Speaker 19: of seventy reads the New York Times at this point,
• 37:53
  Speaker 19: and these little journalists are just stomping their feet and
• 37:56
  Speaker 19: screaming into the ether because they're so mad that they
• 37:58
  Speaker 19: are just irrelevant now. But the rest of us are
• 38:01
  Speaker 19: just laughing at them, and they're blatant hypocrisy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Just before we let you go a little sidelight to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Christmas decorations being shown off at the White House, and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they give us an insight of this picture.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: There's a painting there of.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump after he was hit by that bullet in
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that we've all seen the photos, an actual portrait
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: showing that scene.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Kristen, Yeah, unbelievable.
• 38:26
  Speaker 19: Just the whole scene that she created in the White
• 38:31
  Speaker 19: House for Christmas is just so patriotic, including that portrait.
• 38:35
  Speaker 19: It's poised. Everything about it is perfect. There were even
• 38:38
  Speaker 19: some little needle points in the background of George Washington
• 38:42
  Speaker 19: and then there was one of Trump. It was just
• 38:44
  Speaker 19: beautiful and it may be very proud to be an American.
• 38:48
  Speaker 19: And you know, it was like if that decord display
• 38:52
  Speaker 19: was a Chanelle suit. Jill Biden's display, her Christmas display
• 38:57
  Speaker 19: last year was like something off the clearance round Herdy
• 39:00
  Speaker 19: City or something. I think we talked about it last year.
• 39:02
  Speaker 19: She had like a woke band of clown doing a
• 39:06
  Speaker 19: big dance number in the White House. It looked like
• 39:08
  Speaker 19: a human version of the game Candy Land. It was
• 39:11
  Speaker 19: so embarrassing, But this is beautiful.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: The lefties don't really like Christmas christin that's for sure.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll catch up with you again
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 39:21
  Speaker 19: Thank you, Chris.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: You gotta love America.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Don't you know they even get competitive about your Christmas
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: decorations at the house.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to a break again.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: On the other side, I'll catch up with Susio Brian
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and Stephen Santa Tiempa. We're talking about young Australians taking
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: twenty six million days off work each year for mental
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: health breaks. Lant's catch up as we do on a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Tuesday with Susio O'Brien and Steven Santa Tiempo.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Susie, of course, is the National Education editor.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Of the News Court Papers, joins us from Melbourne and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Stephen's in the nation's capital. Let me kick off, lady
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen with some breaking sporting news. We're just reading
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraph and elsewhere that Usmond Kouwaja is out
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: of the second test. He's blaming the back spasms. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: don't know Susie. Maybe they said to him, you're not
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: going to play. You can blame your back if you like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, either way, he's not in the test,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, in his late thirties might be the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: end of his career.
• 40:25
  Speaker 21: Well, a lot of people were kind of unimpressed with him,
• 40:27
  Speaker 21: but going awhile and then sort of we didn't know
• 40:30
  Speaker 21: if he was injured or you know, what was happening,
• 40:33
  Speaker 21: and then said we find out it's back spasms. Meanwhile,
• 40:36
  Speaker 21: Travis Head does his thing and well, this is the outcome.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: You just got to Yeah, it looks like Travis Head
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the South Ossio, like the batting against Stephen.
• 40:47
  Speaker 22: Yeah, and so he should. I mean, the performance last
• 40:49
  Speaker 22: test was outstanding. Gorzman Kowaja's form has just been terrible.
• 40:52
  Speaker 22: I guess that's where we are now. I guess the
• 40:56
  Speaker 22: question is who partners Travis Head opening the batting. Maybe
• 40:59
  Speaker 22: Manus lab shamee given that he had a bit offormed
• 41:01
  Speaker 22: last time around.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: We will see. But that's all for now from Fox
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Sports News.
• 41:05
  Speaker 23: Let's get back on to the back onto the Kenney report,
• 41:08
  Speaker 23: and I want to get into the power debate and
• 41:11
  Speaker 23: really this energy regulator report today Susie is unsurprising because
• 41:15
  Speaker 23: it confirms what we all know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But to see the regulator lay out the degree to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: which power prices have gone up and to contrast that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: with what the government promised.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: They promised two hundred and seventy.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Five dollars reductions by now, and over that period for
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: most people the increase has been a thousand or up
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to twelve hundred dollars.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You know, they've just made this promise and they've blown
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: it by so much.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yet there's been not so much as an apology or
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: an explanation from them.
• 41:47
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean Chris Bowen, Captain obvious says, oh, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 21: power prices are too high, bills are too high. Like
• 41:53
  Speaker 21: we all know that we're paying the bills every quarter
• 41:56
  Speaker 21: and they're just going up and up. And this analysis
• 41:58
  Speaker 21: is really interesting because it shows that for every single
• 42:03
  Speaker 21: company power company, the gap is at least one thousand
• 42:07
  Speaker 21: dollars between what the government had predicted the increases would
• 42:11
  Speaker 21: be and what people are actually paying. And you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 21: we actually know that too high, and we want to
• 42:17
  Speaker 21: know what is the government going to do? I mean,
• 42:19
  Speaker 21: New South Wales is already staring down a summer of
• 42:23
  Speaker 21: possible blackouts due to fire risks due to uncertain supply.
• 42:29
  Speaker 21: I mean, this is a massive issue and it's only
• 42:31
  Speaker 21: going to get worse over the next few months.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a reminder of Elbow as opposition leader.
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: It will see electricity prices fall from the current level
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: by two hundred and seventy five dollars for households by
• 42:46
  Speaker 12: twenty twenty five.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think I know.
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: I know because we have done the modeling.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: It's always going to be a disaster.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: This renewables energy push Steve, and as you know, we've
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: talked about.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It for years.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But what really scares me and worries me is he
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: holds up this modeling and this was proof that the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: prices would go down. Here we are four years later,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: we've got a disaster unfolding, prices going up by four
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: times what he said that'd go down, reliability in question,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the threat of blackouts, and he's saying, I've got this
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: modeling that says stick with this planet, it's all.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Going to get better.
• 43:26
  Speaker 22: But then when he's questioned on the modeling, he says, well,
• 43:28
  Speaker 22: it's not my modeling, as reputex is modeling. The promise
• 43:32
  Speaker 22: by the end of twenty twenty five. Twenty twenty five
• 43:34
  Speaker 22: is running out very very quickly.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister.
• 43:36
  Speaker 22: I know he's off on his honeymoon and probably not
• 43:38
  Speaker 22: watching us because he doesn't like what we have to
• 43:40
  Speaker 22: say about him. But look, this was always going to
• 43:42
  Speaker 22: go this way. The transition to renewables was never going
• 43:45
  Speaker 22: to be as easy as the government liked to make
• 43:47
  Speaker 22: it sound that it was, because it doesn't fit our
• 43:50
  Speaker 22: current grid and that's why it's so expensive now. Maybe
• 43:54
  Speaker 22: one day down the track intermittent energy will be cheaper
• 43:57
  Speaker 22: than other forms, but at the moment it's not our price.
• 44:00
  Speaker 22: Our energy bills are showing that we now got the
• 44:03
  Speaker 22: reliability issues where we're going to have to prop up
• 44:05
  Speaker 22: these aging coal fired power stations, which, mind you, we
• 44:08
  Speaker 22: should have invested in years ago so that we didn't
• 44:10
  Speaker 22: get to this stage. But that's where we're at now.
• 44:12
  Speaker 22: But my question, my question is is that this government's
• 44:15
  Speaker 22: now been around for nearly four years, when does it
• 44:17
  Speaker 22: become their responsibility and they stop blaming everybody else for
• 44:20
  Speaker 22: this because we see them stand up in Parliament in
• 44:22
  Speaker 22: question time and blame the opposition when they are in government,
• 44:25
  Speaker 22: they didn't do this, and when they are in government,
• 44:27
  Speaker 22: they didn't do that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you've been here for more than a term. Now
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: at what point do you take responsibility?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And also just going back to what I kicked
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the program off at the start of the hour, When
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: is this ABC that we tax payers spend a billion
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: dollars a year on going to stop saying that the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: reason prices is going up has got nothing to do
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: with the renewables energy push?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: What are they going to stop pushing out that misinformation?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: It is outrageous.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And you know I should add and I'm certain Susie
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and Stephen would be the same. If renewable energy worked, great,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: we would all love it. Would have an ideological opposition
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to renewable energy.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: It would be a.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Wonderful thing if we never had to pay for the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: generation of energy.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't work, not for everything we need. We're
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: going to have some, but we need some base load power.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: It's so obvious.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: This has been born out all around the world. But
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: forget about the rest of the world. That's look at
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Victoria now. The crime crisis continues, and of course Jasinda
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Allen says she's going to.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Get through tough new laws before the end of the year.
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: Here she is it is important that we have this
• 45:30
  Speaker 11: initiative in place as soon as possible, and it is
• 45:34
  Speaker 11: for the Parliament to get this work done this week.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: We can do it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 11: I'm confident that the Parliament can get this work done
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: with the cooperation across the parliament because it is about
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: supporting victims of crime, but also to understanding that there
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: does need to be serious consequences.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Susie, this is all about adult time for adult crimes.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: But we've seen the same thing from this government over
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a long period.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: They refuse to look at these issues, they refuse to
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: say that these measures might work, They deny an obfuscape
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and now at the last minute, on the even of
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: an election year, she's suddenly a turncoat. So now I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: wonder she's having trouble getting it through Parliament because no
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: one can really see that it's authentic.
• 46:14
  Speaker 21: Well, I think it's a real problem. I think people
• 46:17
  Speaker 21: don't mind the intent.
• 46:19
  Speaker 20: Of this legislation.
• 46:20
  Speaker 21: You know, when you've got fourteen year olds who have
• 46:22
  Speaker 21: got multiple crimes, violent crimes making people scared to sleep
• 46:27
  Speaker 21: in their own beds, you know, attacking people with machetes,
• 46:30
  Speaker 21: we want them to be punished. We don't want them
• 46:31
  Speaker 21: to just get out on bail time and time again. However,
• 46:35
  Speaker 21: what they're doing is they're pushing through this legislation that
• 46:38
  Speaker 21: has been rushed, that hasn't been properly drafted. I mean,
• 46:41
  Speaker 21: you can't justify having the same adult time for rape
• 46:45
  Speaker 21: and murder as you do a machete attack. I mean,
• 46:47
  Speaker 21: no one's underplaying the seriousness of that. But you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 21: the legislation isn't quite right. And what they're trying to
• 46:53
  Speaker 21: do is shoehorn the opposition, who with a new Opposition leader,
• 46:57
  Speaker 21: Jess Wilson, into accepting this, into accepting this legislation, because
• 47:03
  Speaker 21: then they can blame them for the whole summer saying well,
• 47:05
  Speaker 21: we've tried to move this bad piece of legislation and
• 47:08
  Speaker 21: they wouldn't accept it. So, I mean, it's just kind
• 47:11
  Speaker 21: of poor politics, and the rest of us are paying
• 47:14
  Speaker 21: the price because nothing's really changed out on the streets.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: More.
• 47:18
  Speaker 21: In a school today, there was a teacher apparently who
• 47:21
  Speaker 21: attacked a principle with a knife. So we've got crime
• 47:24
  Speaker 21: continuing while the politicians are bickering.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what a horrible situation.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Now we're running out of time, So Steve and I've
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: got to get you to comment on Susie's story where
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: she's revealed this astonishing number of twenty six million days
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: off for mental health. Come on, this is people taking
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: as sick, ye, isn't it in the main and people
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: just saying, oh, you know I had to have a
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: mental health day.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is.
• 47:47
  Speaker 22: But I think it comes back to the fact that
• 47:49
  Speaker 22: we've built a generation of less resulted in Australians and
• 47:52
  Speaker 22: we've got younger people now that just can't cope with
• 47:55
  Speaker 22: life because they've been treated with you know, wrapped with
• 47:58
  Speaker 22: cotton wool and treated with kid loves. But yeah, look,
• 48:02
  Speaker 22: I think that they're taking the proverbial on the whole
• 48:04
  Speaker 22: when we talk about twenty six million days. I mean
• 48:06
  Speaker 22: that's just extraordinary. Suck it up and go to work.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Is it right, Susie?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Or is also a case of the fact that we
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: have a pretty full labor market and people know they
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: can get away.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: With it now.
• 48:18
  Speaker 21: Yeah, But the thing is bosses are now saying that
• 48:21
  Speaker 21: they are very concerned about the soaring cost of psychosocial
• 48:25
  Speaker 21: stress claims and so they're starting to weed out and
• 48:28
  Speaker 21: not employ particularly young people who have As I said,
• 48:33
  Speaker 21: twenty six million days on average, twenty days a year
• 48:37
  Speaker 21: out of mental health or stress days per young person.
• 48:41
  Speaker 21: So boss is just unemploying them. That's the situation that
• 48:45
  Speaker 21: they're in, and you'd have to think maybe they might
• 48:47
  Speaker 21: think twice about taking some of these you know, mini breaks,
• 48:51
  Speaker 21: mental health mini breaks, but out of a job exactly.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Susie and Stephen. We'll catch you
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: next week. Thanks uch, just enough time to get a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of your feedback. You're still read hot on
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: this energy issue. Debbie says enough is enough. Our energy
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: prices are killing a once great nation, and another viewer says,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I've never before seen a government purposely put its people
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: through so much economic pain. We'll keep on their case,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: don't you worry about that. I'll see tomorrow night at
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: five o'clock. Here's Peter