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Vladdy’s BIG bonus, Wild Mariners & Giants comebacks, Creative White Sox L, O’s Burnes offer revealed, Is Devin Williams OK? · Foul Territory

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: What Crats really wanted to say, by the way, was
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: there's some politicians that just want big seats at the
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Dodgers camps, so they're gonna put that out there and
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: then it'll fade. Look at these these they're nice. Wow,
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: a j let me actually touch his cleats.
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  Speaker 2: They're not mine.
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  Speaker 1: We're giving these away.
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  Speaker 2: You would not be touching them.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: They're really nice at a zero impact. Plus the florals.
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  Speaker 3: These are the j Rods, right, These are the j
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  Speaker 3: Rods who are so light.
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  Speaker 1: They are really light. That's my style.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Well, you like fireworks are flowers?
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Do you see this too? There's like the glittery shine,
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: the glitter and the glittery shine and the green.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why they went green for the Titan up,
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: but they went green. I like the four on the bottom.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Yep. Well, hit me for a second. Look at the
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: bottom and you're like, why are we doing this? Well,
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: we're giving these away, this exact pair. No, and I'll
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: tell you why we're not giving this exact pair out because.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Because there's six and a half only fit Scott.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a twelve big boy. The giveaway on socials, Twitter
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: and Instagram is probably the easiest entry rules of all time,
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  Speaker 1: like the post comment your favorite player. We don't need
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  Speaker 1: anything witty, although if you do great, it doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to do with that. We'll put it in a generator
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  Speaker 1: and we'll pick out a winner. And the reason we're
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: not giving out the exact ones that Aj has in
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  Speaker 1: his hands in that photo is because we are going
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  Speaker 1: to give you your rightful size within reason. If you
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: ask for size twenty eight, they don't make that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but within reason, within the parameters of normality, So go
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: for it. We're running that for a few more days.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: I get it exactly, But how do we know what
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: size Bigfoot is? If Bigfoot's not real?
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  Speaker 1: He needs to like a comment his favorite player, But
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: how do you know. I don't know if he's real.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: Watching I don't want to ruin anything for that.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the footprint. Like you said, you're trying to
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: tell me that Easter money is not coming on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't talk about Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Bigfoot, locked
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  Speaker 1: and sponsor. I don't want to ruin it for the kids, mascots,
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  Speaker 1: what are you ruining? I don't want to be like
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox with they ruined, they ruined Wally.
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  Speaker 2: So wait, Wally's not real.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. If you're five, you just told me this. Now,
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  Speaker 1: No I'm not that's the thing. I am not saying anything.
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  Speaker 2: I hate you. You just told me that Wally wasn't real.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: I thought Wally was real. Were you on that show
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  Speaker 1: the other day when we talked about Wally. You know,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox have the new Wally celebration.
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  Speaker 2: But that's like, not the same. That's not Wally's actual head.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't chop his head off and give it to him.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. But here's my question, this is actually a
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: serious question. Let's say when your kids were little, you
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: take them to the Red Sox gamer. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: watch you play for the socks, and they love Wall
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: and they want to say hi to Wally, and then
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: they see dad with Wally's head on and nothing else,
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  Speaker 1: celebrating a dinger.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to think my kids are smarter than that,
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  Speaker 2: but you never know a young.
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  Speaker 1: Age, or like when they're really young and they don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I have a picture of my kid was south on
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  Speaker 2: me and.
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  Speaker 1: Were they crying or they were into it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they were happy, to see who's head the
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was his head was on yours, your
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: head and you were walking around with your.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: Normal body playing games. Let's get back on task here.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go yeah, not role play, charge it.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: When you turn off the producer lady. Scott even threw
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: up producer lady with his role play.
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  Speaker 1: Pick a comeback? You want to talk about crats, You're
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  Speaker 1: nicer to me. Pick a comeback? Do you want to
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: talk about the Giants or the Mariners? First Mariners? We
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: got to bring some love to the Mariners. Giants are
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  Speaker 1: their first place in the West. So let's go with
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: the Mariners. They need some love, they do, and they
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  Speaker 1: needed it. They needed that game. I gut it was
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  Speaker 1: Hater was down.
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  Speaker 2: I guess because he didn't pitch.
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  Speaker 1: What was his schedule he picked?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. He must have been down because they
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  Speaker 2: used random guy, not random guy, but I don't It
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't usually a Brady You in the eighth, Hater in
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: the ninth, and they did not use that combination. Gave
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: up no. But there was somebody before Okret that got
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: him to the base load. They brought Ochred and he
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: gave up the Grand Slam to Randy and then the
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: Braidia blew it in the ninth. But I guess I'm
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: assuming Hater wasn't available, which is why they didn't use him.
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  Speaker 2: But man, what a good what a great comeback for
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: Seattle and their fans, and what a bad loss for
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did the someone moved from monitor?
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: Yes? Why because mine is French fried and we're ordering
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  Speaker 1: a new one in a few days.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird because now it looks like.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: It's so.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: He also forgot his keys in New Jersey. Crats like,
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: I just don't, I mean, we got to move them.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's for Scott's well being, that's forget that. Man,
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: These these millennials are crazy.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: It's like when dogs digging something up wherever they go,
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: and they wanted what do you?
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  Speaker 2: I know? What you leave here? There's too many things
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: to list, like we don't have we don't have enough show,
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: we don't have enough show to list all the things
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  Speaker 2: Scott has left at my house and will never apparently
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: never get out of here.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: Krats, I have a time capsule here, just things that
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: annoy a j And I put him in here, and
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: I just dig them under the rug or the.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we can show over here krats. I
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: know this is way off target, but here's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: Like between all the junk and the choch keys he
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  Speaker 2: has over here, and the shirt and the hats and
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: the Bible heads and the random met stuff that we have,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it's like I need.
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  Speaker 4: As ye chogs all these random flair, his extra flair.
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: You know what, while we're while we're on this, I'm
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: gonna let everyone in on a little secret.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I worked in television before this for twelve years, and
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: I probably shouted out a few hundred sponsors right for segments,
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: for reads, all kinds of stuff. That's how this works, right,
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: You get free content. We read stuff out, although where
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: I worked isn't really free anymore. But anyway, I never
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: once touched one product that I spoke about, not once.
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  Speaker 1: Hundreds of products talked about. Not once did I get
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: to touch it, talk about it, know it well. I
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: talked about it, but actually not experience it. Right, Obviously,
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: I can go get it myself. I'm not asking for
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: everything to be free, but not once. Now, let's flip
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: it ft motto which I'm part of is we would
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  Speaker 1: like you to send us stuff, then we actually experience
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: it and talk about it better than what happens. Aja says,
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: there's too much. No, that's not true. That's not true.
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  Speaker 2: That's not true because I will only, if you know,
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  Speaker 2: I will only talk about stuff that I actually get
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  Speaker 2: in my hands. I will not endorse. We're on the show,
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: say something about something that.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: I do not have.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: Harry's I have, Harries, I shaved yesterday, Harry clean. It
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: looks nicely, right. So what's the problem though, hold on,
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: hold on, the problem is you have the nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 2: six Mets subway trains over there, which we didn't get
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: you brought from wherever it is, whatever hole you crawled out.
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: Let's put it on the test well.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: It's way over there. You're gonna get up and get it.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much junkers, all this Mets here. There's a
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Walt Weis's Rockies, bobbleheads. I mean, there's makeup kids. I
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: mean there's stuff over there, Scott that you don't even know,
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: you don't even.
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  Speaker 4: Know you have.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think all of it's me.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's mine, and I know what's yours.
• 7:51
  Speaker 4: It's our other co host, I know, the Mariners one.
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  Speaker 2: It was an awesome walk off, Yes, you know it
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  Speaker 2: was great. The Mets, the men that's Pete Alonzo hit
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: that ball and the I don't know what the dude's
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: name was, but he he was beheaded by the wall.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: The catch in center field that was like one of
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: the best catches of all time. I mean that was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I won't go down to get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of love for him to die the wall like that.
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, he like he went headfirst into the wall.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: You thought it was better than Derek Hill's caps the
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  Speaker 1: day before, Yes, because you hit the wall wall.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: Derek Hill was just diving. This dude went full extension boom.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: You can break your neck, That's what I'm saying.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, Aj, it is time for people to get some
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: new clubs, and to do that, they need to go
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: to their local PXG for a fitting, right.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. I was there today, I've been there before.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer gap.
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: You look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is worn out.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I went and got new clubs today, New irons, but
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: a new putter. This is my old putter. It's on order. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's my putter cover PXG Mustang. Now I'm going to
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: the Allen putter. They talked me into it because I
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy who helped
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: me out, he helped me with my irons. He got
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: him teed up perfectly. But then we went to the
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: putt and green. I was draining them putts because that's
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: the most important part of golf.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: PG fittings are fun. Schedule you're fitting today, as you
• 9:17
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• 9:32
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• 9:37
  Speaker 1: why you helmets your heads up, kid. Uh. The Astros
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: bullpen has question marks behind it. Obviously, Presley's gone. Hayter's
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: still there. He wasn't pitching yesterday. Randy A Rosereina two
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: out brand slam in the bottom of the athof o.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: Kurt Julio ties at bottom nine off of brave Randy
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: gets the walkoff walk to win the game.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: You want to add three two break them all right there, cratsy,
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. You got to throw
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: a pitching throw for a strike, make him get a hit.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: He can't, he can't walk them right there? Right? Am
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: I wrong in that? And I was watching it live or.
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: Was watching it was it looked like he was controlling
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: his fastball. He was just nibbling with his fastball, so
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: maybe he wasn't controlling it.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: Another problem the Astros have is they cannot shut down
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: the running game. Teams get on and they go, oh yeah,
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: the Mariners in steel bases, they were running wild on them.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: I think the number seven for eighteen. Yeah, now for
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: the season. And and Chandler Rome, who's our crush shitty
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: territory host, has replied to a number of fans over
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the past few days that are like, what the heck
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: is wrong with our catchers? And he was like, pitchers
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: are not varying looks or timing. Stop playing it.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: It's not the catchers and I'm a catcher.
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: I think six out of the eighteen wasn't even a throw.
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: That's how big of jumps they were getting.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: How many times do you do that as a catcher, Like
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: there were times where guys just get a jump and
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: I just wouldn't even I'd just be like, right back
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: to the picture, you know why, because then the people
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: realize it's not your fault. You're just like, I got
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: no chance. What the hell am I gonna waste a bullet.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: The only thing that can happen is something bad, like
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: me chucking it into the center field because I try
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: to rush, Like, nope, I'm just throwing it right back
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: to the picture.
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. I used to always throw it anyway.
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: I used to always throw it anyway because of crazy legs.
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: Raj Davis. Raje Davis would always slide past second base.
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: And my thought was, somebody's gonna slide past second base.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: Keep the tag on, maybe you get them. It's called stealing.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta stick the tags at all times these
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: days with replay, no.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: You come off by besides of Scott's feet and you're out.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: The twelve spot and you're out. The asters are five
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: and set. I mean they're they're fine. They started off
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: way worse last year. I just want to throw that
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: out there. The Mariners are five and eight.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Nobody's nobody's great in that division. I know the Rangers
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be the team. Yeah, but they you know,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: some of their banged upness already. I don't know. I
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: think that. Listen, the Angels say what you want, but
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: they're in this now because the division is not great.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I know it's early that we're gonna talk to Sam
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Blom later. I think the Rangers are.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: I think the Rangers are the fast team they should be,
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: but they keep masching Homers like they did of Imanaga.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be They're gonna be all right.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I want to finish with this. Do you know who
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: the players of the week are in the NL and
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: the al.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker and Alex Briklan Boo nailed at ex Astros's
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: kind of hurts. That's kind of that kind of hurts
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: when the walk off.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pop corner, let's tail. You can learn more
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: about Ken Rosenthal's story on Laddie Junior's ridiculous signing bonus
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five million dollars by reading his
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: article in The Athletic, or by watching or listening to
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Fair Territory. We're going to talk about it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty five percent of his five hundred million dollar contract,
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: which includes no deferrals, will be paid out in a
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: signing bonus spread out over the course of the fourteen years.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Signing bonus means you already get the money regardless of
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: what happens after that, even though the money doesn't all
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: get paid out right away. The clarification for people to
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: understand is that if we have a lockout, it doesn't matter.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Glad he's still getting his paycheck.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: It don't matter what. This whole thing was really smart.
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  Speaker 2: I've said it from the get go. Not only was
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: he smart with how he got it done, meaning how
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: he basically made the Blue Jays have to sign him
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: because of the way he played him, but then to
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: do this with the signing bonuses, knowing there's a potential lockout.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Not only that, he also doesn't have to get paid
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: in Canada the bulk of it. He's getting the bulk
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: of it in Florida. He lives and there's no state tax,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna save a crazy amount of money doing
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: it this way. Listen, I give him and I give
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: his agents a ton of credit for what they did
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: and how how they structured this is unbelievable. And the
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: blue Jay is like, sure, we'll do it. Why because
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: it's chunk payments. It's better that way for games. Boss akins,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you get but here's my question,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: is you get him at the end of every year?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Does he get him like in January? Because like I
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: used to always try to sign before the new year
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: and then I could throw my signing bonus. I'd always
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: try to get a signing bonus and I'd get it
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: thrown in before the new year so that I could
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: use it on my taxes the year before and I
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: could use it in Florida, so that way.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: See, yes, I think you could go either. I think
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: you do it. So you're saying, is it December January,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: because there's a difference there. The only thing I do
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: know is it doesn't count on the season because it's
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: after the season for the team's luxury.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Tax or whatever it must be in December probably whenever.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: The yeah, whenever, right, the cycle cycle, whatever, the new cycle?
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Why does so that's why Toronto does a lot of
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: people are like, why does Toronto say yes to this?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: And also is he so smart? Wouldn't every player ask
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: for this? It's just that he has the leverage to.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Actually, as I said, he played them, played them perfectly.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a player in Floridocrat, every player wants
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: to get as much of their signing bonus as possible.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it's up to a player, they'd get
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: the whole signing bonus sent to them in their contract
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: because then they don't have to pay taxes and wherever.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Else it is, I would have I mean I lived
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: in Virginia when I played. I would have loved to
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: have gotten a signing bonus. I mean Virginia state tax
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I think it was like six percent. Canada was fourteen percent.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Fourteen percent on top of everything that you're earning, like normal,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: your normal taxes. So if it's if he say fourteen
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: percent on three hundred and twenty five million, that's forty
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: five point five million. Obviously, I don't know, you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: it's probably ways to work around that tax. But remember
• 15:53
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• 15:56
  Speaker 4: right after he signed, talking about how the Canadian dollar.
• 15:59
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• 16:03
  Speaker 4: wonder if the Blue Jays get some benefit from that,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: because maybe they don't have to they can use different
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: funds to pay those signing bonuses because it's technically not
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: paying somebody that's in Canada. You follow what I'm saying, Like,
• 16:18
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• 16:20
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• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say for the Blue Jays. You know
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they're owned by Rogers, right yep. So if they do
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: this at the end. I don't know how the Canadian
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: tax cycle works, but it works, you know, December December, January,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: December December thirty first, if they cut that checked to lad,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that's a loss for them, so they can say, oh,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: we lost you know, fifteen million extra at the end. See,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: so I mean there's there's there. It's all about how
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  Speaker 2: you play with the money.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they might have dynamic signing bonus
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: years where they're like, hey, we want to balance it
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  Speaker 1: out kind of like how like if you have an investment,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you would report the loss at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year to counter it. I don't know, that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: might be two in the weeds.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, we need an account on here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: But three hundred and twenty five million dollars in a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: signing bonus. That was an eye popping number that came in.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: It is because you don't usually see that. You expect
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: everyone just you know, he got fourteen years five hundred
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: eyone's trying to figure out how many millions per year
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: But the way he did it, I mean again, dude,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like the show. Hey thing, California is
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: changing the law because show Hay the way he did
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: his you know, deferred money. They're trying to change the law. Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: they're trying to change the law because they want they
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: What he's gonna do is he's gonna get the money
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. He's gonna get the bulk of his money,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: so he doesn't have to pay in California. It's smart.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It is if the team will do it and you
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: can do it, you can do it that way. The
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: thing about lad that's smartest. He still gets his money
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the same timeframe, it's just broken up differently. He just
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: gets smaller checks from here. He gets one giant check
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, and he gets a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of smaller chicks. Now, I remember when I was
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: playing guy. There was a couple of guys he got
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: paid year round, and there there's some teams will be like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: do you want to get paid twelve months or six months.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll just take the six months.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Some guys, yeah, so you get a monthly every deposit.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get it the whole off season too.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So let's project this forward. Do you think this becomes
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: more of a trend when we see things happen right,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like the first opt out whatever amount of years ago
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that was, and it's like, oh, I wonder if they'll
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: there will be more of these. And I remember at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the time some people are like, Nah, that's just for
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: this player. Nope, there's a ton of opt outs now right,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because you bring up comps. So let's push this forward.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is about to be a free agent. He
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: lives in Florida. If he signs with the Yankees and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: has that New York City tax, which is awful, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: dealt with it for years, does he say, cool, I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: getting five hundred and I want three fifty on the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: signing bonus. If they'll do it, and then do states
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: start to try to come after this and change laws
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: all across the country because it's going to be billions
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: of dollars.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I mean they'll try, but I don't know how they
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: can do it. Yeah, because they have.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: A battle if it becomes a trend right on the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: team side, if that's another leverage point for them to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be like, sure, we'll do that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I would think, I don't know, We'll see. We'll have
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to see how it plays. There's very select few guys
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that can get this done though. Yeah, yes, tuckeruld be
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And you have to think about the fact that you
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: talk about like changing laws, like these politicians who are
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: going after show Hayese money are funded by people who
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: are making show has money for a lot longer than
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: ten years. Like people that fund their fund their campaigns
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So I get it. It's like big forward facing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: But they change these laws for athletes, they're going to
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: start changing for other.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: People and teams. Teams want deferred money. Teams want to.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Not like if you have, let's say he's getting a
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: twenty million dollars signing bonus, Teams do not want to
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: pay him twenty million dollars from March to September. They
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: would much rather hold that twenty million and then take
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: it out of a fund that they put in there
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: themselves made money. They're not paying the whole money, so
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: if they can pay that lump sum at the end
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: of the year, teams, big corporations.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Always want to do that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, always, especially when you're talking about this kind of money,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: because they're making extra millions on that money that they're
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: paying out that they wouldn't had they had to pay
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: him on the first and fifteenth of every year. So
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: teams want deferred and I'm sure teams probably even want
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the signing bonus, but I don't know all the schematics
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: The only thing with the signing bonus risk is you
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: do have a legit chance that games will be missed
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: coming up, and then you aren't getting that discount on
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the games missed, right, I mean they shouldn't be. But
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if you give a guy almost all of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it in the signing bonus. What Crats really wanted to say,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, was there's some politicians that just want
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: good seats at a Dodgers camp. So they're going to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: put that out there and then it'll fade. Has been
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: talked about for a while, exactly went.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Away once they won the World Series and went away
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: kind of qud.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Get my binocular see who's sitting in the suites in
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: these days? Oh, I saw you yelling about the taxes. Yeah, well, anyway,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it was interesting. I know some of you are going
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to watch this afterwards and be like, oh, it's so
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: gross to talk about how the taxman inflation works. It's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: not or just giving you the information. We're not doing it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: No, I've got but I'll say this, by the way,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: every person, I mean, I'm assuming you guys have accountants.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: People have accountants when you do write offs. That's kind
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of this. I mean, it's not the same thing, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: it's similar.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That's in the category.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're trying to save money on your taxes. Everybody
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: drives to save money on their taxes. Yeah, I mean
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I write off Scott as a dependent.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Really is Devin Williams Okay?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at his career r in April and he's fine.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: March in April, he's the top story on the site
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that I usually used to check a lot of baseball news.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Was like, Devin Williams says he's okay, and so I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: clicked on it. I mean, it's kind of clickbaity. I'm like,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: what happened? And they're like, yeah, he's given up four
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and runs in four appearances, Like, yeah, I know a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: few of them came in yesterday's game. His whiff right
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: on his change up has gone down from fifty percent
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to twenty five percent. I'm like, yeah, he's made four
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: appearances and he says he's a slow starter.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Let's get it. Let's give Aaron. Let's give Aaron Boone
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: some credit too. Some managers don't have the kajones to
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: pull out a closer who was the best closer in
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the game and just got to your team. Some of
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: them just say, hey, it's not my fault. We got
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Devin Williams. He was evaluating the game. It was going
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: off the rails. He helped his team win the game
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: in that situation. What's the value to Aaron Boom that
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Aaron Boone brings is a prime example of taking the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: best closer in the game out in a situation he
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: didn't think he was going to get.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: The job done.
• 24:22
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• 24:25
  Speaker 1: fans don't see that because they, for the most part,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: look at the manager as an extension of the front office,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and so whatever results happened on the field, it's the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: manager's fault too. But you're right. I mean that's a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: loss for some managers yesterday, isn't it. Yeah, probably about
• 24:42
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• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I bring you through a lot of pitches. He weren't
• 24:46
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• 24:49
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're again, I don't know what their
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: bullpen situation was, But you're right, it's a.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Good call, Krats, So yes, we all agree. He's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about a Ken Rosenthal story that covered Corbyn
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  Speaker 1: Burn's departure from the Baltimore Orioles. So we finally got
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: some numbers on what the offer was for him, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: people are like, why are you talking about that now?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Because we just got the information. If we brought this
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: up in the off season, this would be the biggest
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  Speaker 1: story for a few days. So he basically said, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Red Sox made a short term offer and the Orioles
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: made a short term offer. The Oorls one we got
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the details on four years, one hundred and eighty million
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: dollars forty five million dollars a year would have set
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a record for a pitcher, not counting the Unicorn show.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Heyo tany. It would have been the highest average annual value.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But it was not the most guaranteed money offered. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I would say ninety percent of the time, if not more,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money in free agency is what is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: going to command the pitcher.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Especially another Homer de center. By the way, just saying
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: that is insane, Wow, like clip talking. Sorry, I know
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you're going I actually burns. But another Homer at.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Steinberg I'm talking like, way I get that one. Tayler
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: warded alone.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Jeesh Steinburner field right field.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: This one was just like left just left of side.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But I mean it went out by who went out
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: there almost on Delmay.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: With gorgeous day outside I'm in Florida. We're close enough
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that the weather's the same. Anyway, this was cute, but
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it was never gone over.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: What was the Red Sox offer?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: We didn't get that, but we got the oil.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It was oils are four.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Red Sox he signed for four years.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He signed for six years to ten. Now there were
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: deferrals in the deal that he signed, so it wasn't
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: as far apart as it looks on paper.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, but two things about this. Where does he live?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Arizona?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: But it was over. They offered more years, more money.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It was over. Can I it was over.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I don't care. The Ools made a nice little run,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but if you have a guy six fifty, they would
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have to overpay him. That's had to beat it by
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a big.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But we always knew that, I agree.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: But we never thought the Oriols would get to four
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: poet eighty, did we?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I guess not. But the Ools acted like they you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: they did everything they could? Did they do everything they
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: could when you make a four year offer to the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: best pitcher on the market, who's looking for more years
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and obviously the biggest guarantee, like they didn't beat the offers,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: So for them to say like, oh, yeah, we did
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: what we were supposed to do. He wanted to go
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to Arizona, Well he did, but if you he did
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: want to go there, but anybody Arizona.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: If you remember when you talked to him, he said,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Arizona wasn't even in until the end. Yes, and they're like, wait,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: we can actually get Corven birds for this, We'll take it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is so if you're Baltimore and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you threw a six to twenty at him before that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: even popular, he.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Would have taken it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You would have taken it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: But listen, for him to get to go home where
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he lives with his family and pitch in a place
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: where he doesn't have to move for spring training and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: he's there year round. He knows he's going to be there,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: they would have had to blow it out of the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: water once he got that offer, and they weren't going
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: The four one eighty is nice, it's cool and all,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: but you know Corbyn was looking for at least five.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: He got six. Now he can end his career at
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: home and be happy. So good for you, Corbyn, but
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: kind of what good for the Diamondbacks.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but the story here the Orioles.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Said they tried and they didn't get to the number
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that was good enough.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so people are like, that's cool that you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: offered him a lot of short term money. That stuff's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: happened a lot over the years. Remember the Dodgers made
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that big offer to Bryce Harper, but it was for
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a low year total. How often does that really happen
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: unless it's got the big opt out in it, like Bregman,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: which really you can just look at it as a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: one year deal unless it's got an opt out right away.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And the Orioles one didn't have an opt out. The
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks one has an opt out after two years. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: don't see him opting out, I agree. Maybe he was saying,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Know, I don't know. I don't know that he is.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know that he will maybe, but I can't.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine being in the place. The
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: only way I could see him opting out is doing
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: something where he could get more money from the Diamondbacks
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because he wants to stay there. But he has two
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: young and he has young kids. He's happy there. His
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: kids are going to be getting into school age at
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that time. You know, I just don't I just don't
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: see him. I mean maybe, but if he goes out
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and has two great years, maybe, but still I think
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: he'd it'd be one of those like I'm gonna opt out.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Wink wink, give me a little bit more for the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: same amount of time and we'll call it even.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell Marte just kind of helped them
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: spread out money. Yeah, Ools have a five to three
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: seven starting pitching yards Orioles.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I know, Krats put them three on their power ankles.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Not as bad as me putting the Nats one on
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: mine because they just beat the Dodgers in the series.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But they're starting pitching with Efflyn down, Grayson down. They're
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: starting pitchings in trouble. Kramer got whacked yesterday.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Kramer and Morton have Bras to the moon right now.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: They have the two worst starting pitching the Ras.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: This this is the thing we said going into it,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and we didn't think they addressed it enough with what's Seganogiano.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Chicano and Morton were the big moves, big.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Moves and listen, Charlie Morton's forty two years old.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Eventually it catches up to everything it does. And I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy because you don't like
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to know root for your prediction when it's like this.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But I do Baltimore radio spots a lot, and I'm like, guys,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I'm worried that it don't enough and it just stops
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: for Charlie eventually, he's just up there. You're not going
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to pitch till you're forty eight right Wayno, did it
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for a while and then it just it went away.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: They've got some similarities.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, another homer right down the right field
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: line for Mike Trout, I mean right three hundred.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And fifteen feet in like five home.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and the wind's blown out. Guess which
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: way left to right?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean everyone was just in like Mike Trut
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: literally popped it up and it went in the first
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: row at Steinberg. It's amazing.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's fun. Fun people like homers. But anyway, their rotation
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: right now is Morton Kramer, Chicano, Kid Povic And sure
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be guys coming back, but you got to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: get to the playoffs.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That's what we're worried about. And if you have a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: dude's hurt. I don't know. We'll see, we'll see how
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: they react.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: My thing was on this story. Okay, you didn't get Burns,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that's cool. Jeffrey Springs was available via trade. Obviously, Crochet
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: was the big prize available via trade. Who else? There
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: were plenty of names available.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Names you could have won. Dylan Sees was talking about
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: being possible trade.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Freed was available, Blake Snell was available.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Blake Snell wasn't going there.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: There were who else was traded to?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, that was a long time ago.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: On Sodo got traded.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: How about hayeszeus Lozardo.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Oh there's a good one.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: No phone call for haesus Lozardo.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they did call. I don't know. Okay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: they made a trade with the Marlins last year didn't
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: go so good.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they traded for the wrong dude. Hayesus Lozardo was
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the one, not Trevor Rodgers. Yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Oo, fans, I feel for you. It's you know, you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: have the offense to get there. Do you have enough pitching?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: You built it, but you didn't put the cherry on top,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and you could have it wasn't. It's not saying it
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: added sixty six million dollars a payroll.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: This is on a knock on Michae Olias. But he's
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: never been in this situation to get He's always been
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: kind of He was a member in Houston, he was
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: behind Lunaw and then he goes to Baltimore. So he's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: never been in charge when he had to take that
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: next step. Does I'm not saying he doesn't know how
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to do it, but do you know how to take
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: that next step? Like when THEO went to Chicago, right,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: he had done it with the Red Sox, so when
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: it came time for him to go get John Lester
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and John Lackey and Jason Hayward and these guys to
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: finish the deal, he went out and did it. Now
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he had backing from the ownership, which the new ownership Rothstein.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: With Reuben Simonstein sorry yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: With Baltimore said they're gonna he has the backing to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: go do it. But did he go about it the
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: rail way? I know he got Tyler O'Neal, and he
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: got Chigano and he got some other pieces. He got Morton.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: They added money, but did they add the piece that
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: could take him to the next send. They haven't won
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a playoff game with this group, not a series, a game.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: They've been swept twice.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: To me, Elias in his situation right now reminds me
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: of this is gonna be a weird one. Alex Anthopolis.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: With the Blue Jays, there were a couple of times
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: where he went for it though no, well, he went
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: for it after he.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Learned David Price, Josh Donaldson. I mean he went after it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: After he originally for previous seasons was being very cautious.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: He's he's on the record on it. I learned my lesson.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I did that, and then all of a sudden everything
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: was hitting right. Like it wasn't just success on the field,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: like the whole vibe of the team changed because Bautista
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: called him out. I think it was the year before
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: when they did nothing and they were in range. So anyway,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he still talks about that now and says how that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: experience in Toronto made him who he is now and
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: he is one of the best GMS or president of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: baseball operations in baseball. So I think Elias is going
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: through that learning curve right now. That's what it feels like.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Always as a player, always go for it. You always
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: want your team to go for Yeah, of course as
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: a player, because I saw your money.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they had money to spend. I just I'm
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: still confused about what happened in this offseason and right
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: now it's playing out that way in the Weeds. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: two things from yesterday with plays a the plate. One
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you brought up yesterday because it happened during our show,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and then I got to watch the clip after keep
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Brian Hayes. Wait, man, but if you just run into
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the players that collided or kind of act like you do,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: isn't it obstruction?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That was That was weird base running because the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: guy was trying to do just do it. I didn't
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: step on Aaron Boone's back, and it doesn't matter. He
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was being so polite, being so polit himself and out Yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: keep Brian Hayes, was I mean? And they were like,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: oh what a heads up playing? I mean, the ball
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: land right there and you could hear the pitcher going
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: tag them, tagging. He picked him up, tags him before
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: he That collision was nasty. That's why I always told
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: my infielders or not because I sucked the pop ups,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I sucked at him. I'd be like
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: my first and third basement. You catch them all and
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'll left they're behind. If they're from behind home play back,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I'll do my best. But if they're if I have
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to go into anywhere foul counting towards the dugouts meaning
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: towards fair territory, that's your ball. Go get them. Yep,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: catch them all because the ball is going away from
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: me as a catcher. How many time you see the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: catcher go oh and they miss it because it's spinning
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the back to you. So the first basemin was doing
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the right thing. He was charging and he was they
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: smashed into chill. Likely they were both okay. But the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: base runner he was kind of in a weird spot
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: because he was trying to score. He's trying to be nice,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and he went around and the ball just happened to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: go on the right spot for Cobrian has to pick
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it up and tag in the ball six inches left
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: or six inches lady safe. It just went in a
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: perfect spot.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but some guys would just be badasses and they
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: would just truck stick and say obstruction or they'd get home. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: guys are a little nicer these days. All right, the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: White Sox play. He got hurt Rojas right on his
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: way home. That was Rojas? No was it? What did
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about with the White Sox game?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, the white nose talkman, the White Sox game.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Sorry, well, Josh Ross, Yeah, confusing And he's already hurt,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: isn't he?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Talking me yesterday? I mean, listen, this is the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: most White Sox thing I've ever seen. On how to
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: lose a game. You've lost seven, you've lost six in
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: a row. You get the class A, you have the base,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a load of two houts. Vargas gets to hit the left,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: makes it three to two. Talkment's coming around and he
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: pulls a hamstring and he's out by twenty five feet.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He probably would have scored. And what a pick, by
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the way by Austin Hedges at home play. It's gonna
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: get overlooked. But it was a short hop and he
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: picked it and and I mean obviously, but if he
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: misses it, talking and limps home and they still tie
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the game, he picks it tags talking me out and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you can just see talking is like he throws his helmi.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: He's like gets on his knees. He's like, no, but
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like the most White Sox way to lose all. I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable with that a hammy, it's a hammy. He
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: went on the aisle. Then they lose. They lose Corey
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Lee to a left uh ankle sprain getting back on
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: a pick off, and then they also lost Ben attending
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to an adductor abductor. I don't know the difference. He's out.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: My question is is like, okay, so if you're the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: White Sox, and I know they called up Narvaias to
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: catch right, why don't we call Kyle Teal. I know
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: he's struggling a little bit in triple A, but why
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: not call him up and give him a shot? You
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: already have dice there. I guess they're both left handed hitters.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the reason service, but you would like give
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: him a shot. He's struggling. I know he's only hitting
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: like one ninety in triple A, but he did some
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: special things for in spring train. Just get him out.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: If Cory Lee's only gonna be out for a couple
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: of weeks, ten give him those ten days. Le don't
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: catch four or five games and start the process of
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: getting them used to being in the big leagues. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: mean Narvaia's they're not. You're not winning the division. If
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you're the White Sox this year.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: You win, the season's already over. Yeah, your season.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Today, you're already two and eight, so they're gonna be
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: two and nine.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Let him learn in the bag, Let him learn, Give
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: them a.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Couple of games, throw them out there, let them get
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: used to catching the pictures is gonna be catching for
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the next few.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Years service time after the Super two deadline thing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not gonna stay. If you know Corey
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Lee's coming back, he's not gonna stay. You say, hey,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you're here for ten days. But if you catch for
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: he's not though, you're just you just know he's not sure.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: But I guess they would have two left handed hitting catchers.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: But face stuff left. You give it to Dice and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you give til the.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes to me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: To me, that's the question is why don't we bring
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: him up?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, They're like, why don't we bring up this?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, no offense to Narvaias, who's had a nice career,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: but he's kind of proven this thing.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what are we doing and.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: They have him in Double A so we can catch
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: schultzen Hagen Smith, So like, let him stay down there
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and get them them.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know. I'm not there day to day,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm just I just I don't know why. If
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it was me, I'd be like, you know what, Cayle Teel,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you're coming up for ten days or however long Cory
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: leaves out and as soon as he comes back, you're
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: going back down to Triple A. But just get some
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: get some under your belts. When you do come up,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: everything's not new. At least you get a couple of games.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: In four or five games and go they're gonna wait
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, it's just a little ram. I just
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: don't understand why, you know. I mean, the thing is,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you look at their position player prospects right now til
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: calls the Montgomery hitting O eighty and I know it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Chilly and Charlotte, but you know Cayle Teel's not hitting either. There.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: You got to is there a case to be made
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that you want to call guys up when they're clicking
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in the minors, or it doesn't matter, It.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter for catcher. The thing is like, get them there.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: You have Dice, you have Drew Viterra. Get them there
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and get them four or five games under their belt,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: because what happens is God forbid, something happens for the
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: longer term and you won't you know, And you said
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: super two manipulation. I don't know if it's that that's
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the case, because he's not going to stay there the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: whole year. Now, maybe something happened and he might, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: that's a chance you take if he comes up and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: does really well, you know what. Cool we found somebody like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: let's roll with this dude.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And give him a taste kind of.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I remember Tory Hunter, Like I used Tory Hunter as example.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We were he was in Double A nineteen ninety seven
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: New Britain and they called him up. He was gonna
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: quit because he's like, this sucks, not very good. They
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: called him up to pinch Run in Baltimore for like
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: two games. He pinched Ran. He's like, man, this big
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: leagu stuff's ptty cool, almost stick with it. Worked out
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: pretty good for that guy.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah right, but he was, Yeah, he was.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Gonna quit and go home and play football. They called
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: him up for two days someone got hurt they needed him,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: or fraternityly, whatever it was. They called him out of
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Baltimore for two days. He got to pinch run. He's like, man,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this big league stuffs awesome. Man.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Man, did he ever talk about that publicly? I don't know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: but I mean that's that's a crazy story though.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they've I mean they literally called him up
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: just to basically he was like he was struggling in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Double A because then the extra ninety eight I was
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: there in Double A with him, and that was when
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: he kind of started figuring some stuff out and then
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: we went you know, the rest is history, and Tory
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and I don't have an unbelievable career.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: That's my thing is there's the whole balance of, oh,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: we don't want to call him up and have him
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: discouraged and then get demoted. I'm like, damn, you call
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a guy up and even if he struggles and gets
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: a taste, I don't care how motivated you are, You're
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: going to be that much more motivated when you go
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: back down and be like, I want that back, right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I want to taste that exactly. So I'm like, do
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you really think their feeling is going to be so
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: hurt if they get called up for a week or
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: two in struggle. For me, personally, I have no relation
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to this situation. But if I was called up and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I got to see what the big leagues was like
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in any capacity, it would make I'd be up at
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: five a m. Instead of five point thirty. You know
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just because I'm like, I'm getting back there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: That was freaking awesome.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Once you get a little taste of you want to
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: get back. Yeah, And we talked about Kyraen Parris with
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the Angels. I mean he he busted his tail to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: get back there, made some swing changes and did some
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: stuff and now look at him.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Once you get a taste you want to get back.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's smart. Dodger's Territory coming up next with
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Alana and Clint after they worried there. We did the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: game last night, the playback. It was fun. It went
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: really well. Daniel Murphy was really good. He had a
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: He had a great time. He loves the game. Yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's fun to talk to guys they love the game. Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He brings up some philosophies that you've never heard before,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: but they make sense. Yeah, And they help relate with
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: young fans. So I thought it was cool. He was
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: really good. And you know what, for a guy who's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: got plenty of old school thoughts in him, he's he
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: thrived by getting more lyft on the baseball at one point.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Remember, he made some he made some big changes. Big
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: changes went off for those couple of years.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And he's all about it now, right, but not in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like a super analytical or launch anglely way. You know.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It's just when he's watching the game with us yesterday,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: he's just like that was on you. You know, He's like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you gave it that. You gave that to the infield, right,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: He's like, your jobs, get it over the infield. Like
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: he had some simple philosophies that he brings now to
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the kids that he coaches. I think he's got like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: an eleven year old. So anyway, he was really good. Actually,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this question for the last two
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: minutes of today because then I'm gonna ask it tomorrow.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do a segment on it. I'm actually into
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: this one. His favorite question that he asks almost any
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: baseball fan, who will finish, who will have more career
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: innings pitched? Babe Ruth obviously show or show hey o Tani,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, does have Babe Ruth has one two hundred
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and twenty one and a third. No chance he's getting there,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: no chance for eighty one and two thirds?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Noe, Fay Ruth. You think he's gonna be eight hundred
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: more innings in eight years?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You know? And I'm gonna go into more.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going Babe Ruth not close, I think, I don't.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know he's supposed to pitch again.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: He's gonna pick.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I just don't know how much he's gonna pitch him.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: They're gonna baby him. So he's gonna miss most of
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: this year going to next year. If anything pops up,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, just hit just hit fifty and
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: still fifty will be good.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got almost eight hundred innings to catch
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: up on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And he's not going to do two hundred any seasons.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think he's going to do many one fifties.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty. That's six to seven more years to
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  Speaker 2: catch him.
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  Speaker 1: So forty one and two thirds, what is he finished with?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in the sevens.
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  Speaker 2: I think he might get eight hundred ninety eight hundred,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: he gets to a thousand.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be shot right, So it's not close.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk, gonna have more home runs, Babe, Ruth
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