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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers/Broncos Matchups · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, overall, they're a great defense, really good defense.
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  Speaker 2: They fly around. The D-line's obviously really good, great interior line,
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  Speaker 2: and then the guys on the outside are really fast, physical.
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  Speaker 2: Their linebacker is a former Canadian over there, a big guy, Alex.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: He's a great backer, flies around, physical, got a lot
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: of respect for his game, and then Obviously the secondary
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  Speaker 2: is really good as well. I know they have a
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  Speaker 2: few injuries, but even the guys that have stepped up
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: behind those guys have done a good job filling in.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a good team to go.
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  Speaker 3: Against for sure.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 0:54
  Speaker 4: Chuba talking about the Denver Broncos defense. If the Panthers
• 0:59
  Speaker 4: are going to win, Chuba's going to have to have
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: a ball game. He was amazing as a runner and
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  Speaker 4: a receiver against Green Bay. He's going to have to
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: be that again. I'm coming up on Sunday in this
• 1:12
  Speaker 4: game against the Broncos. I'm excited for this one. There's
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to make Sean Payton angry, which would be awesome.
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: But most importantly, bone man, we need a dub. So
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  Speaker 4: freaking bad. We're still sitting here in first place. Clinging
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: to it like a cat on a screen door. But
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all have noticed, it's been pretty
• 1:32
  Speaker 4: ugly the last couple of weeks, especially pass protection. So
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: we've got to talk through this one. I'm not going
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: to act bone like every matchup. feels, you know, like
• 1:44
  Speaker 4: a trip to the beach, Denver six and two for
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  Speaker 4: a reason, but also look at them and apparently Vegas
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: and some betters do too, because there's still only two
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: and a half point favorites over us.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I look at this as a game. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: we will be in, like, I just, I don't know
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: how you feel bone. I feel like this one's going
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: down to the wire. The bad news is Denver or
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter comeback hit Kings. They've won four games
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: with fourth quarter comebacks. But I feel like we're going
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: to be right there with a chance to stop that streak.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I feel very confident that we will be
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  Speaker 5: playing a football, not playing a football game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: That's That's not what I meant there. You should be confident.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let me— Bone, take two. I feel very confident, Matt,
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  Speaker 5: that they are going to play on Sunday and be
• 2:29
  Speaker 5: in this game to the very end. How's it play
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: out with what you're talking about, about the heroics of
• 2:34
  Speaker 5: Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk through that on the show.
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  Speaker 5: But there are certain matchups here that some people may
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  Speaker 5: freak out about, but I actually think— are in the Panthers'
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  Speaker 5: favor that I'm not worried about. One side of the
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  Speaker 5: ball that you already mentioned, the offensive line versus Denver's
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  Speaker 5: defensive front, yes, that's a major concern.
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  Speaker 1: How can it not be?
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  Speaker 5: But I don't have a huge fear, despite the at-time
• 2:58
  Speaker 5: struggles of the defense, Denver's offense and their weapons, I
• 3:02
  Speaker 5: know Waddle's good, I understand all that, they don't really
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  Speaker 5: put a whole lot of fear in me. If they
• 3:07
  Speaker 5: can do a nice job against Green Bay... It was
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  Speaker 5: a nice job, all things considered. I think they can
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  Speaker 5: do similar against Denver. Yeah, I mean, this Denver, I
• 3:16
  Speaker 5: would start there, too.
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  Speaker 4: This conversation, we do it every Friday before a Panther game.
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: This conversation is, what do we look at and feel
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  Speaker 4: good about? And, of course, all those things end up
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: playing out exactly the way we feel. But it's also like,
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  Speaker 4: what scares us about the Broncos coming in? I would
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  Speaker 4: start right where you're starting. Denver's offense, to me, is
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  Speaker 4: just eh. It's just I understand, Bo, and they've been
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: much better in second halves, fourth quarters. I understand Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nix has been better the last two games statistically. He's
• 3:46
  Speaker 4: been real good in these fourth quarters, better in the
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: second halves as well. But I just look at their
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  Speaker 4: running game. It's one of the worst in football. And
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  Speaker 4: they lose Harvey in the mix now.
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  Speaker 1: They lose him. Jonah Coleman looked pretty good last week.
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  Speaker 4: Dobbins doesn't look like the same back he did in
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  Speaker 4: the past. He's averaging only 3.3 yards a carry. Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nix gets involved in the run game. He averages, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: I want to say around.
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  Speaker 4: Around, what is it, about four runs a game, but
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  Speaker 4: he only averages 3.6 yards a carry. I just, I
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  Speaker 4: think we're going to handle the run. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: this is, like, the two teams that lit us up
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  Speaker 4: on the ground, Bone, are literally the top two rush attacks,
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  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay and Chicago. When we face bottom 10 run games, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: we're giving up 78 yards a game. We've played three
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  Speaker 4: bottom 10 run games. And in those games, we've given
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  Speaker 4: up 78 rush yards a game. This is one of
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  Speaker 4: the statistically bone three or four worst run games in
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  Speaker 4: the league. I expect that not to be a problem.
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  Speaker 4: And passing Bo Nix is very inconsistent. He has been
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  Speaker 4: a slow starter. You've got to jump on them. This defense,
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  Speaker 4: Todd Walsh is talking about this attack up front and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: We've got to jump on them early, I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: They are slow starters offensively. Let's jump on them early.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get a little confidence defensively.
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  Speaker 5: Bo Nix, Mac, is completing 59% of his passes right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, if you do the splits there, the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 5: is much different. But I don't– if Bo Nix is
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  Speaker 5: passing on us, I don't– there's not any– Jordan Love
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  Speaker 5: put the fear of God in me, especially leading up
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  Speaker 5: to the game, of what he could do. And we
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  Speaker 5: saw why. I don't have that fear with Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either.
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  Speaker 5: As a matter of fact– The way they're playing this year,
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  Speaker 5: and I know that the last little bit wasn't here,
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  Speaker 5: Bryce Young has had a better top-to-bottom season than Bo
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  Speaker 5: Nix has had.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think there's any denying.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, bone, it was just three weeks ago where
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix was getting blasted by the entire nation in
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  Speaker 4: a win.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: They beat Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: The dude was scared to throw the ball more than
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  Speaker 4: five yards downfield and Ryan Fitzpatrick obliterated them. Like this
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  Speaker 4: is a dude that has not gotten the ball downfield
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  Speaker 4: very well. To your point, they are more of a short,
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  Speaker 4: you know, shorter passing game. Waddle is averaging like 10
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  Speaker 4: yards a catch. This is a big play guy, and
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  Speaker 4: maybe I'll regret it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe with our corner.
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  Speaker 4: Situation, maybe they'll find a way to hit a couple
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  Speaker 4: of downfield. But I think to your point, I think
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  Speaker 4: with our messed up corner situation, Bone, I think it's
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  Speaker 4: a good team to play against.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as opposed to.
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay where, you know, those corners, man, it was
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  Speaker 4: it was live training against one of the best pass attacks.
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  Speaker 5: Matt, can I give you a ridiculous stat here that
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  Speaker 5: I thought was a misprint? At one point, I was
• 6:33
  Speaker 5: looking at the Broncos, just individual stats. Alex Singleton, the
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  Speaker 5: linebacker who has two sacks, two tackles for loss. He
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  Speaker 5: leads the league in tackles right now by 19. We
• 6:44
  Speaker 5: are early November. He's got one hundred and one tackles
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  Speaker 5: this year. I thought that was a misprint when I
• 6:50
  Speaker 5: read it. Like, how's dude... He is all.
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  Speaker 4: Over the place. How does a dude have 101 tackles?
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  Speaker 4: He's all over the place. And he's the guy that Chuba...
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  Speaker 4: If you listened to that Chuba cut that we played,
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  Speaker 4: he's the guy that is the fellow Canadian. I did
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: not realize Alex Singleton was a Canadian who played in
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: the CFL at one point.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea but right now he's one.
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  Speaker 5: Of the best middle linebackers in football he's a 32
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  Speaker 5: year old journeyman that has 101 tackles so far he's
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  Speaker 5: 32 years old that's crazy yeah he's a baller man
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  Speaker 5: he's a baller so and that takes me to the
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  Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball i expect this bone to
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  Speaker 5: be a low scoring game i think our defense is
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  Speaker 5: going to have a.
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  Speaker 1: Good night day whatever they're playing Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: I guess good night would be if they won the game.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, I digress. I think the defense is going
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  Speaker 4: to play well. And I think it's going to be,
• 7:40
  Speaker 4: but I do not feel great bone necessarily on the
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  Speaker 4: other side of the ball. Now, Denver, statistically, if you
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: just look at their stats, you would say, you know,
• 7:50
  Speaker 4: what's wrong with their defense? 25th in yards, 25th in
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  Speaker 4: rush yards, 20th in pass yards. It has not been good.
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  Speaker 4: But if you look at their last four games, Bone,
• 8:00
  Speaker 4: it's completely changed. They are giving up 18 points a
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  Speaker 4: game in the last four, and their EPA is seventh
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  Speaker 4: per play in the last four. They're starting to look
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  Speaker 4: more like you expect a Denver defense to look, and
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  Speaker 4: I expect this to be a real challenge. Our passing
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  Speaker 4: game and our pass protection... I'm just terrified about it, man.
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  Speaker 5: I know people were laughing yesterday when I said this because,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the negatives don't like to hear this. But
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  Speaker 5: there is something about desperation in the NFL. Who's most desperate?
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  Speaker 5: There is something to that. And the desperation category in
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  Speaker 5: this game is on the Panthers, more so than Denver.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes that does matter in these games.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that angle. I like that angle for us.
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  Speaker 5: That and the travel to the East Coast. Sometimes those
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  Speaker 5: things do matter.
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  Speaker 4: But can desperation turn Rasheed Walker into a good pass blocker?
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's like.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, man, I can just give you... I can just
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  Speaker 5: throw it out there. We can figure out what really matters.
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  Speaker 1: Are you staying only positive during this segment? Are you
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  Speaker 1: not talking about what you're worried about?
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  Speaker 4: Because, like, Freddy Krueger is not scarier to me than
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  Speaker 4: this Broncos pass rush with Nick Benito, Zach Allen, and all.
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  Speaker 1: When we started this, I said, um.
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  Speaker 5: OK, and I'm not worried about the Broncos weapons, but
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  Speaker 5: I also said I didn't get to it yet that
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  Speaker 5: I'm terrified of the offensive line versus the Broncos. So
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  Speaker 5: I said I literally said, if you're not, how are
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  Speaker 5: you not? No, that has to be the most terrifying
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  Speaker 5: aspect of this game. That is Sean Payton's face. You
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  Speaker 5: look at Denver.
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  Speaker 4: They are sixth in pressure percentage on defense, 13th in
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  Speaker 4: sack percentage.
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  Speaker 1: But again, the last.
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  Speaker 4: Four weeks, during their four-game win streak, this defense is
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  Speaker 4: looking better and better. Seventh in sack percentage, sixth in
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  Speaker 4: pressure percentage over the last four weeks, and they're blitzing less.
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  Speaker 4: And what's been giving us problems? Four-man rushes. Four-man rushes,
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  Speaker 4: seven in coverage. So Bryce gets pressure quickly and does
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: see options open downfield because these teams aren't having to
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: send bone extra guys.
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  Speaker 1: The pressure. Yeah, Zach Allen is a terrifying thought in
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  Speaker 1: this game. He's a beast. And so is Benito on
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  Speaker 1: the outside against either tackle. you know?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not just, we need to make Benito finito. Man,
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  Speaker 4: that ain't happening though. Um, and then there's other guys too.
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  Speaker 4: Bone Robinson off the edge, 22 pressures. Roach on the
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: inside has like 24. They have four guys with 22 pressures. Uh,
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: this texter says, I am terrified that Bryce young is
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: going to look like garbage again. Yeah, they need to
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  Speaker 4: get it going again. They need to get that pass
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  Speaker 4: attack going, Bonesy. And obviously it all starts with the
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: freaking upfront pressure. I think the run game is so key, though.
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  Speaker 4: I think we can run on them a bit. I
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  Speaker 4: think if they commit to it early and stay with
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  Speaker 4: it and try to get in second and manageable, third
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  Speaker 4: and short, so they can't just pin their ears back,
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  Speaker 4: I think we have a chance.
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  Speaker 1: At running it, man.
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  Speaker 5: Both receivers need to show up, and I think one
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: could be taken out by Sertan, but I mean, Coker's
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  Speaker 5: got to show up, too. The one that is not
• 11:15
  Speaker 5: playing on Sertan has to have a game. It can't
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: be one where... You know, Sertan takes out TMAC and
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  Speaker 5: Coker doesn't do anything in the game. These guys have
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: to show up for Bryce in this game. At least
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  Speaker 5: one of them that's not on Sertan. Because you have
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  Speaker 5: a feeling he's going to take someone out.
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  Speaker 4: Sertan's given up, I think, like 22 yards a game
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  Speaker 4: in the five games he's played. He returned from injury
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: last week. Um, uh, yeah, I had it on my
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  Speaker 4: two things on my notes about Pat Sertan. One is
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  Speaker 4: move TMAC into the slot. If it's a game where
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  Speaker 4: Sertan is following him all over the field, Sertan has
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  Speaker 4: only played seven snaps in the slot.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't really go in there. Um, so move TMAC
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  Speaker 1: into the slot.
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  Speaker 4: Don't allow him to Denzel Ward this thing, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with TMAC. The second thing is to your point, and
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  Speaker 4: I'll extend this beyond Coker. I'll need to make plays.
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  Speaker 4: They need to get open.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And they need to make plays because it could be
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  Speaker 4: a game where TMAC has three for 21 or something
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Waller's got to show up. Tremble's got to show up.
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  Speaker 5: All these guys have to be active.
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  Speaker 4: But the run game, Fitty, I saw you nodding your
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: head when I saw... Got that neck moving. When I said...
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: Who said he didn't have a neck?
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: I saw that neck and head bobbing up and down.
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  Speaker 4: When I said we can run the ball, Fitt, they
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  Speaker 4: are one of... It's crazy because of who their personnel is.
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  Speaker 4: They've been one of the worst tackling teams in football
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  Speaker 4: this year. They give up the most yards after contact...
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL on rushes, and they are 31st in
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  Speaker 4: tackling grade on PFF. Chuba, run your big, strong ass
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  Speaker 4: through these freaking Weasley-Wussy tackles.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Just spit on me. Come on, baby. Jeez, you went
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: straight Sergeant Slaughter on me. I'm sorry. I already feel
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: bad enough I spit on this mic over here.
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: You spit all the way across over here.
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  Speaker 1: I got loogied, Fitty. What do you think, Finn? What
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: do you think now that I'm all hot and buttered?
• 13:09
  Speaker 7: That's unfortunate for Bone. But no, I'm with you. You
• 13:13
  Speaker 7: bring up all the tackling stats. But I also just
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  Speaker 7: feel like we're getting closer and closer to the two
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  Speaker 7: years ago, Mac. I think whenever they've ran the ball,
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  Speaker 7: you're seeing him finish runs. You're seeing him drive the pile,
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  Speaker 7: get an extra two, three yards.
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  Speaker 1: He looks healthy. He looks sharp.
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  Speaker 7: How many yards would he have this year if our
• 13:32
  Speaker 7: sorry-ass offensive line wouldn't hold every time he had.
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  Speaker 1: A big run? That's true. Looking at you, Robert Hunt.
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  Speaker 7: Looking at you, Tommy Trimble in the tight end room.
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  Speaker 7: So I think they're going to have to run it
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  Speaker 7: to set up the passing game because I'm pretty certain.
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  Speaker 1: That someone's going to get taken away in the passing game.
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  Speaker 1: I see what you did there. On the Denver side
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: of things. I see what you did there, Kent. But
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  Speaker 1: I've got a weird.
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  Speaker 7: I've got a weird feeling about our Panthers on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a confident feeling or are you worried?
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  Speaker 5: Last time you had a weird feeling, we got emails
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  Speaker 5: that you clogged.
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  Speaker 1: Up the whole building. That's funny. I don't care who
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: you are.
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  Speaker 4: What is your feeling? Sit on this Panther therapy couch, sir.
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  Speaker 7: I think this team is going to play pissed off.
• 14:17
  Speaker 7: I think this team is going to play with a
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: sense of urgency. You don't see coordinator changes that happen unless...
• 14:24
  Speaker 7: There's something bigger at stake. They know they're better than
• 14:27
  Speaker 7: what their records suggest they are. I don't think we're
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: just some mad football team. I think we're better than
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: just being average.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Good football team.
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  Speaker 4: I got to tell you, I'd take average after watching
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  Speaker 4: some of the stuff in the last two games.
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  Speaker 7: It's a battle of two first-place teams at the bank.
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  Speaker 7: I hope the fans show up. I hope the fans
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: show out. Give them something to cheer for. Give us
• 14:49
  Speaker 7: a good environment. But I think Carolina responds on Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: I like what you're saying there. I like what you're
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: saying about, like, look at NC State with Dave Doran.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: They kind of rallied behind it, right? And I'm not
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: sure that's carrying over to the Duke game. We'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about that later.
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  Speaker 1: Hope not.
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  Speaker 3: But, like.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the one week after a coach is fired
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: in soccer, they call it the new manager bounce, right?
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: When they get rid of a manager. Like, I feel
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: like the defense is going to play with a purpose.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's been a great point you've used this week. Like,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: they're going to feel. Derrick Brown said it. I feel
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: like I got, you know.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: What I mean? I cost people jobs. They're embarrassed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Denver's offense, to your point, Bone, is not anything
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  Speaker 1: to be afraid of.
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  Speaker 5: It's a very pedestrian offense when you consider the pedigree
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: of Sean Payton offenses, right? When you think of New
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Orleans and how many times back did he find wide
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: receivers out of nowhere? We say, where'd that guy come from?
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: How'd that guy? He used to do it all the time.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: This is not the same operation anymore. I don't know
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: if it's Bo Nix or whatever, but the Sean Payton
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: offense is we feared in New Orleans, not in Denver.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: So there's varying opinions right now, Bone, about my takes
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: and our takes. This texter says, too much confidence from
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: this crew. Another texter says, when Max starts throwing out
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: those stats that indicate we should be positive about a
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Panther game, I want to cram them on him where
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: the sun don't shine.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Excuse me? All I can do is give you the information.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: That's all I can do.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I can't control whether or not, Bone, we actually take
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: advantage of another team's weaknesses.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Did you set up a singer on the line?
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a little entertainment on a Friday. We
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: got a little entertainment on a Friday for you. Gator
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Rube says, when Worried Mac makes an appearance, I know
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: who I want to put my bread on.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: So he thinks I'm worried.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Does that mean Denver's going to win?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Bread as in money, right? I believe so. I thought
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: it was cheese. I believe so. I thought chicken was
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: money too at one point. I think it was.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was what Marshawn Lynch, or no, it was
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: chicken your brain. Remember you said you got to take
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: care of your bread?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Take care of your chicken. Apparently your chicken ain't working
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: right now. All right. Let's do it, man. Let's do it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It is time.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Our guy, the official crooner of the Mac and Bone
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: show is Juan Barron. And from time to time, Bone,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: he will feel inspiration. What's going on in a Panther
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: season will hit him. And like any good songwriter, Bone,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: he will take to writing. And he wants to perform
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: it right now live. a live concert event, Bone, on
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone Show.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Bone is very excited. He's going acoustic, too. I am
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: going the voice while I turn my chair around.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going Randy Jackson while I send Dog through to Hollywood.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: So here he is. Baron, what's up, Baron? How you feeling, man?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Emotional rollercoaster this season. We went from feeling confident, like, Hey,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: we're a team that is consistent. People are going to fear. Uh,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: and then after those last two games, I think all
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: of us, the last 10 days have felt a completely
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: different way, almost a point where we're already defeated. Uh,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: but this Panther team over, over the years, it's, we
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: either win the games. We're not supposed to, or lose
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the ones that we're guaranteed to. Um, if everyone picks
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: against us, we win. If everyone picks for us, we lose. So, uh,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: To me, it's just, you spin me right round, Panthers
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: right round, with your record going up, down, round, round.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: You spin me right round, Panthers right round, my emotions
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: going up, down, round, round. That's how we all feel.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I love that, baby.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And it's so apt. It's such a description of this
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: up-and-down team. That is some great 80s music for those
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: of you too young to know what that is. All right, Barron,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: we appreciate you, baby. I think that sums up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Where we are.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Bone did not turn his chair around. What's going on
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: over there? I'm sending dog through to Hollywood, baby.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's not the effort Barron puts a lot into it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: That wasn't, I don't think, his best song.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: What was his best? The ones he's done before.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Ha!
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? Are you old enough to remember that
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: song or no?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I've heard the song, obviously, but, you know, like on
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: The Voice, like that might be a good song for you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: That might be your guy. I just didn't feel like
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: it was right for what I.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Need right now.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: You're not adding him to Team Bone? I'm not, no.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Mac from Salisbury, it's a no for me, dawg. Get
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: out of here, baby. Get out of here. Fitties Gauto, though,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: on the text line.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: That's actual texter, believe it or not. Says that was
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: better than Pat McAfee's music. Take that, Baron. Take that
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: and run with that, baby. That's a bar that few
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: can cross. When we come back, Lee Sterling, ParamountSports.com, Weekly Picks.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Is he going to panther up this week against Denver?
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: All right, baby.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Mack and Bone, we are singing today, man.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: We are so fired up for this Panther opportunity against
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the Broncos.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We are singing. Man, I'm still scared about that Orlando, Bone.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. Why couldn't we play the Ravens this week, Bone?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Ravens this week with Joe Finano? Every team's saying that
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: God!
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: We're two weeks too late on the Ravens. They'll have
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett by then. Not that he is terrifying, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: they will. They will throw for more than 60 yards.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: You spin me round was sung by who, by the way?
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: You spin me right round, baby, right round. Um.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: One Hit Wonder, probably.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Some group, English pop band, Dead or Alive. Yes, Dead
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: or Alive.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: 1984.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Damn, I forgot that. That's it, man. I honestly didn't.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I was 11 years old rocking out. I've heard the song.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that that was from them.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Bro, middle school dance, Mack, just getting it going to
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: that song, bro, and no girls within like 30 yards
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: of me.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We had Montel Jordan my day. Oh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I can get down a little. This is how we
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: do it. A little Friday night dance. I like that one, too.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Friday night, the feeling's right. I like that one, too.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: We should sing everything today. We've got to get to Lee,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: by the way. We should go Mack and Bo musical today.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just so happy when I'm singing. Oh, yeah, Lee
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Sterling's on hold. Will Lee sing his picks?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Eh, we won't worry about that. All right, anyway, let's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: make you some money. That'll make you happy. Singing makes
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: me happy.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: It probably makes you miserable when I sing, but I'll
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: tell you what makes everybody happy. getting some money, making
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: some money. And Lee Sterling is going to help you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: do that this week on all the football games. What
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: an amazing football weekend. Lee Sterling, Paramount Sports, ParamountSports.com. He's
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: going to tell you how to get his Georgia Ole
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Miss game of the week and all his picks for
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: his clients this weekend. But before that, let's talk about
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: some of these local interest games here on the Mac
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and Bone Show, as we do every Friday.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Lee, how are you feeling this week, man? What's going on?
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: I was good until Wednesday about 8.38 in the morning
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: when my phone just started going off, getting calls and
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: texts about Malachi Tony. So it's been a little rough there.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: That sucks. We'll see. It's going to make it really tough.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, what's interesting is someone, you talk about the
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: value of a player. So Tom Brady probably worked hard.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: seven points, eight points. You know, they usually had some
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: pretty good backups for him, like Matt Castle for a while.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: But last night for this, the line from Lamar Jackson
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: to his backup was 12 points. I don't know if
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: I've ever seen a swing. Now it was from a
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: first to a third stringer to a rookie. So that
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: was monumental. And, You know, they're talking about Malachi Tony,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: you know, so the line was five and a half
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: before the injury news came out. It's seven and a half.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: I actually think he's worth a lot more. I heard
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: a couple cappers say, you know, they thought it was
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: a lot, one and a half, two points. Well, he
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: catches 10 to 12 balls a game. He runs jet sweeps.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: He's even thrown a touchdown pass. He returns punts. He's
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: your emotional leader. I mean, maybe one of the, 20,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: 25 greatest college football players of all time. It may
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: not translate to the pro game, but we're going to see.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: It's going to be a monumental task here for Miami
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: to go into South Bend and win the game.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Not to mention the defensive attention he pulls and then
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Barcade and Upshaw and those guys, Lofton, those guys get
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: less attention. Do you want to start there? Yeah, let's
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: just start there. So what do you think? Now that
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: the line's up to 7.5 for Notre Dame, which is
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: a big number.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: Right. All right, so I'm going to take a different
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: approach to this game. Total is 55-and-a-half here. So I
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: think Miami's defense is going to come to play. They
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: know if they give up 30, 35 points, their offense
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: isn't going to be able to score that against this
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame defense. Why? They're probably going to run the
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: ball more. Mark Fletcher and JV and Mallory used that
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: one-two punch and used that big line. But Notre Dame's
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: defense is pretty darn good, giving up just 237 yards
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: per game. only given up 13.4 points per game. Miami's
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: pass defense has been horrific the last three weeks. You
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: saw it in person. North Carolina did a number on
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: them here and almost won the game. But their rush defense,
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: and that's how pretty much Notre Dame rolls, or at
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: least they use the run to set up the pass.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Miami's run defense only allowing 56 yards per game. Here's
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: the kicker. pace of play. Miami, 111th out of 138 teams.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: They walk up to the line, take their time, make
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: audible calls, snap it within five seconds. Notre Dame is
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: even slower, 120th out of 138 schools. I think that
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: this is going to be a rock fight here. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: just think that this is going to be a game.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Maybe Notre Dame's up 27-17 and Miami scores a backdoor
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: touchdown later. Maybe it's 23-20 one way or the other here. And,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you know, you could have Notre Dame ice it with
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: a touchdown or a field goal with a minute or
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: two to go. I don't want my hard-earned money, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: flying in the wind based on one possession or something
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: like that. I'm going to go under 55 and a half.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: I don't like the under. I love the under. Hint, hint.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: It's one of my Big client place for my client.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's good info there then.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Lee, local action here.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Duke has really smacked around NC State lately, but that
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: was with Dave Doran. They head into Raleigh, four-and-a-half-point favorites
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: with no more Dave Doran. What's the right side of
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: this matchup?
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Duke dominated the last three years by 10 points or more.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Hadn't been close here. NC State got a little bump.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: It's happened a lot in college football. Follow-up, the head
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: coach gets fired. Except for Maryland, pretty much every coach
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: has the new coaches come in. Kids, they want to play.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: They want playing time. The starters, they want to stay there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: The young kids want to prove themselves. They usually play
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: a little bit better. We didn't even know that You know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: the starting quarterback from North Carolina State was even going
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: to play last week. He plays. They look great. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Duke has a 54-46 run-pass split. The Wolfpacks have three
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: times this year given up 175 yards or more on
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: the ground here. And that's how Duke rolls here. For
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: the fourth time in a row by double digits, I
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: like Duke here, 33-21. All right, there you go, going
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: with Blue Devils. I like you, Lee.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Four in a row. I don't like you, Lee. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: love you.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some NFL games, some NFC
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: South games, and then obviously we're going to get to
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Panthers and Broncos. So Bucs are hot right now, but
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: they are, I have a feeling, not going to be
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: able to beat the Bears without throwing the football and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: completing a pass. They are Tampa Bay getting six from Chicago.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: What's wrong with kicking seven field goals and maybe getting
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: a safety and scoring 23 points? That might get you there. But, yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: they're going to have to throw the ball a little
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: bit here. Weather looks like it should be okay. Tough
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: trip for Chicago going out west. And Ben Johnson, sometimes
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: you don't get a whole lot from watching press conferences,
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: but he said last week's win, their game plan was
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: the most sophisticated game plan ever. he'd ever put together coaching.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: So it kind of shows you how important that win
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: was in that game going against the defending Super Bowl champion.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Now they come back. They're going to play a rock-solid defense,
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: top five in almost every major statistical category. After the
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Bucs won 13 or 14 straight games not covering, now
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: they're on a roll here. I think Chicago's going to
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: win 23-20, but Tampa's going to cover 13.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Talking to Lee Sterling, ParamountSports.com, with his weekly picks. NFL
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: continues here, Lee. Saints-Brown, Saints favored by one and a half.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: What are we doing with this game?
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Yes, so Saints head coach and play caller Kellen Moore
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: fired his run game coordinator, Reagan Eddy, and Fires him for,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: you know, not getting more yards and not painting that
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: pretty picture in Paris that he wanted. They only had
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: 18 rushing yards against the Steelers here. Part of the problem,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: maybe most of it is, I think his obsession with
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: passing the football and throwing it 62.8% of the time.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: What we're seeing, teams off a bye, usually coming out
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: and playing real good football. Saints are off of a
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: bye here. I do think that's a slight advantage, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: the Browns also making the change of quarterback here to
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Shadur Sanders. So I think they're going to get a
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: couple takeaways. Give me the Saints 26-20. It looks like
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: you're going to have to do your own work here
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: and not get any help here possibly from some of
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: these other teams.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: We also got Atlantic and Cincy over there in Madrid
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: as well, if you're wondering who they're playing as we
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: watch the NFC South ride.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Of course, folks. of Madrid.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, so before we get to your game of the week,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and tell everybody how to get your picks. Let's finish
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: it off as we always do, the Panther game. A
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: lot of people commenting this week, Lee, and we have
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: as well, that, man, that line's lower than we expected
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: it to be, the way the Panthers' offense has played
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: the last couple weeks. Broncos by either two and a half,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: maybe three in that neighborhood.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: What are your feelings on this one?
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you, this is– I thought the line
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: would be maybe half a point lower or a point higher.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: But I think that this is a great situational play
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: here for Denver. Now, unfortunately, it's the 10th anniversary of
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Denver versus Carolina Super Bowl. But other than that, Denver
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: has not traveled well here. It's their first significant road
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: trip of the year. Remember, they played the Jets last
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: year in London, didn't fare well, traveled to Washington, and
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: needed overtime to win that game. So I still think
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: they have trouble here with the running game. Jonah Coleman
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: is a boost to their running game, but I don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: know if he's the final answer here. They might be
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: looking for another piece at running back. And the passing game,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: you know, everything is off of play action, and I
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: think that the defensive end, the edge rushers, could have
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: big games here. I know the cornerbacks are out here,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: but a couple of key drops for Denver. And if
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Denver falls behind early, I think they're in trouble. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: think Carolina is going to get that running game going here.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Trubin's going to have a huge game here. Give me Carolina. Carolina, 27-20.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: How about now?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> Man,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming today, Lee. Lee, if you're here,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I kiss you on the forehead. Didn't see that coming. Respectfully. Respectfully.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep the momentum going, Lee.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: Hopefully it's not like what happened at– You know, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: what was junior high, I think, for us back then,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: now middle school. Did you ever do the seven minutes
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: in heaven?
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: No, they always kept me out of that. That's what
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: we call me and my wife's honeymoon. It wasn't heaven, though,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: for her.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Different locations.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: To the dance? Oh, man, going in the broom closet
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: with the girl.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I liked, you know?
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Go in the closet and you kiss for seven minutes.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Everyone knows that game. I never played the game, but I.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Knew the game.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Don't take Lee into that dang closet, all right? Please
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: have some respect. All right, Lee, you got a game
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: of the week, Georgia Ole Miss. I know that you
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: want to offer that up to our listeners. Tell them
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: how to get it. And then I know for this
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: huge weekend, I know it's got to be a big
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: weekend for you, for your clients. What do you have
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they want Georgia and Ole Miss. Just call 800-400-9741.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: First 10 callers. We're going to give Georgia and Ole
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Miss for free. I love one side of this game. Georgia,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Ole Miss, 800-400-9741. How about this, guys? We've won nine
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: out of ten weeks. Think about that. Have you ever
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: in your life won nine out of ten weeks betting anything? No.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: We've been able to do that. We had our NFL season.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: We know that. I wasn't asking you. I was asking
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: the audience. So here's the deal. We had our NFL
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: game of the year last week, Jacksonville, 42-7. You're not
• 33:14
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  Speaker 1: Awesome. Good luck this week, Lee. Appreciate you, man. We'll
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: talk to you next week.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Okay, guys, take care.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Good stuff from Lee Sterling.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: We mentioned asking the audience there, Mac, and whenever we
• 34:09
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• 34:15
  Speaker 4: You see the audience responding on my comment about my honeymoon,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: seven minutes in heaven. 704 number says, Mrs. Mac refers
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: to the honeymoon as 20 seconds of hell.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I got to even laugh. That's good stuff.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that the Nolan Richardson defense back in the day?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that? 40 seconds. 40 seconds? 40 minutes
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of hell. 40 minutes of hell.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mac had 20 seconds of hell. She's not yet
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: broken that press either.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone radio.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Program, Charlotte Sports Therapy Time.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Who is frustrating you more, the Hornets or the Panthers?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Let us know.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Is my calm voice creepy? Let us know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: I don't think the.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: Hornets are super surprised that they're 3-6 based on the
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: fact that they knew that trade was going to hurt
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: their offense.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: They did it for all the, I don't want to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: relitigate it, durability, contract, whatever.
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: We all know why they did it, but they knew
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: the risk was a step back this year. And then
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: Khan's not played and Kobe White's not played and Grant
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: Williams is not played. So I don't know what people
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: expect that, like how.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: They were going to win games like this.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're deep.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: They're deep.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Like Grayson Allen's been their second best player this year.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: Depth is great. And it also means you have a
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: bunch of okay players. So they're still well stocked with assets.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: They have a huge hole at center that I just
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: don't think Diabate and Kalkrin are really good enough to
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: be like a 48 minutes of center if you're really
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: trying to compete. But these are all questions that they
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: knew they had and they have now years to answer.
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: And that's why the Lomelo trade, the verdict is going
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: to be what's the next move or moves for Charlotte?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Like that's going to be the verdict. And they've got
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to nail those moves.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Zach Lowe on the Zach Lowe podcast. That is probably
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: not what y'all want to.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Hear right now.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Zach Lowe telling everybody that, hey, the Hornets probably aren't
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: surprised by what's happening. They willingly took a step back
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: bone with the Lomelo trade. And they're very injured. And
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: those two things have led to a start and an
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: offense that is very hard to watch. It leads us
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: into a question I was thinking about when I was
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: driving around.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yesterday, Bone.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, if you feel like Zach Lowe,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: you might say Panthers to this question. But I'm guessing
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of y'all don't have that Zach Lowe energy
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: on the Hornets right now. Who is frustrating you more?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Everybody answered his question. Hit us up on the text
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: line as a Charlotte sports fan, because it's very similar bone.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: These are two teams that last year exceeded expectations, showed
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: improvement and had us feeling like, Hey, they're on the
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: right path. And I know it's real early for the,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: for the Hornets and the Panthers are still in first,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: but It's simultaneous regression and disappointment. So who as a
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: fan bone has frustrated you more at this point?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think so far it's the Panthers.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Now, that's not saying Mac, the Hornets can't easily move
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: up into this category and pass them in time.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: It's just.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: It's still early in the season. Yes, it's frustrating. We
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: have also not seen the Hornets in full because of injury.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: So that part is frustrating. But I expected Mac, the Hornets,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: to what Zach Lowe is saying, take a step back. Now,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: is it more so than I thought right now because
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: of injuries, the offense? Yes, it's worse than I thought.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But then taking a step back without Melo to eventually
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: go forward.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Down the line is not shocking.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: The Panthers, being in this topic, where we thought they
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: were a couple weeks ago, moving ahead and either stalling
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: or going backwards, I thought they were ahead of that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: So I'd say the Panthers right now because that's more unexpected.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: In the moment than the Hornets are. I tend to agree.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: If you would tell me the Hornets got off to
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: a slow start without Melo, I would say it's not crazy.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: If you would have told me a couple weeks ago
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: the Panthers are going to regress— In some ways, I'd say, really, seriously,
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: we're moving ahead.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: That's more surprising and frustrating to me. I mean, when
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: you look at what's happened to the Panthers, firing the D.C.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: and two other assistants, giving up 200 plus rush yards
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: in two games, the offensive line being this terrible. The
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: thing the thing that we have gone for is we're
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: still in first place. But I just, yeah, I kind
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: of agree with you. And I, let me just say
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: it this way, Bone. Yesterday, I was very emotional about
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: the Hornets. I don't even know if I was making
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: sense half the time. I was emotional. I don't even
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: know if I was being fair, but I was emotional
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: because this offense right now for the Hornets is so
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: horrible to watch. And there are guys playing and being
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: put in roles that are very hard to watch them
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: try to do these roles.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It's not their fault. It's because of injuries right now.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: So I stepped back yesterday, got off the air, stopped
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: freaking out, and started thinking through, and I thought a
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: lot about the way Zach Lowe thought, which is, hey, man,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: we knew they were going to take a step back.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: They made the lamello trade for the long game. I
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: got to be fair to that. In the meantime, though,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: the dramatic difference between that offensive machine the second half
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: of the year last year and this garbage– it's striking
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: the Hornets fans. It's leading to rage. But I would
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: say the Panthers, and you could probably still say that
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: the Panthers are injury induced, right?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: That their struggles are cornerback and O-line injury induced.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: But I think I'll go Panthers more frustrating because I
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: did not expect to be three and four.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: At three and.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Two bone, I honestly thought there was a chance we
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: might open up like a multiple game lead in the division.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I really did.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, I did not, I did not think
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: a step back was going to be a thing for
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: the Panthers. Now, the way the NFC South operates and
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: the way this league works, they could, you know, two
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: weeks from now, Matt, we could be talking about them
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: taking a step forward.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's all over the place.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: But for right now, the two results that ended up
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: getting Averro fired and... Just the overall vibe of the
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: team right now. I would say it's the Panthers, although
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: it's not like you're feeling good about either operation right now.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: It's just a matter of what level of frustration. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: frustrating for both. Does Willie own the– Willie owns all
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the meters around here. Does he own the frustration meters?
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Are we allowed to do that? Willie, are you there
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: with us? What about the pistometer? Can we call it
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: the pistometer? Does Willie own that?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Willie owns all meters. Yeah.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: He gets very upset if you take his meters. Oh,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Willie's in studio. We just found out. Willie, how you feeling?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I feel great, guys.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: I think this team is going to respond.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Don't know which one. You don't need the Panthers or
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the Hornets. Yo, we've got Charlotte FC. Don't forget about
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the crown. Charlotte FC ain't having issues, baby. That is
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: damn straight. I like how we have Willie on demand.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Just on demand. He's hanging out with 92 in the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: green room over there. Love that Willie guy. Love me
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: some Willie. We're just going to.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Let that go.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: We're just going to let that go. All right, so
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: what are the texters saying? This dude says it's not
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: just a step back. It's back to the Stone Ages.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Burnett and Pineville.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Now I'm back. Hornets can't even average 100 points in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: today's NBA. Oh, it's atrocious. It's horrible.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I heard Bailey talking about it the other day.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: This was before the last game, Bone. But, like, the
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: gap between the Hornets and the second-worst offense scoring-wise is like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: what is it, like eight points or something? Like, we're
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: not even in the same area code as the second-worst offense.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Someone says, any more steps back for the Hornets, they'll
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: be at the Charlotte Coliseum in 1988.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, all right, those are good years, all right? Settle down.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Bagel Guy says, you keep saying trust the Hornets. They
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: just sent their two first-rounders to Greensboro. How is Hannes
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: not getting minutes? He's probably not ready yet. This is
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: not a positive topic, Max.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: This confuses Bagel Guy because he doesn't know which one
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: to answer of which one bothers him more, right? He
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: wants to answer both of these teams. This is a
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Bagel Guy dream come true, though. Which team frustrates you more?
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: That's probably many of your answer. Again, even with the injuries,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I think we're at a point, Bone, where our depth
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: is to where our rookies don't have to play if
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: they're not ready to play. How many years, Bone, did
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: our rookies have to play and maybe start right away?
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Because of where our roster was. So again, I look
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: at it that way. Am I surprised that Hannes is
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: buried that much? Didn't even get in the game the
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: other night.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I am.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: But I do think, you know, I don't think it's
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: the end. I don't think it's the end of the world.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't, if they're not playing Hannes, they're
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: doing it for a reason. Like I think sometimes fans
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: think what they're trying to do, make themselves worse by
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: not playing rookies. Like they don't think they're ready. And
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: if they're not ready to help this bleep show of
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: an offense, I think there's your answer.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. This, this texture says F the Hornets.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: They're dead to me.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Zach in Miami, Jeff Peterson drafts more players to the
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: swarm than the Hornets. But again, OKC do OKC's like
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: OKC is sat a ton of draft picks.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: They haven't played right away, right?
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: OKC has two right now that are not playing a ton.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: From this year's draft, Bennett, Sturtz, and Mara. They're in
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: there a little bit, but not a ton.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: So, happens.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Not everybody's at the same pace as everybody else. Also,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: right now, we have guys like Lendeborg for the Warriors,
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: who's 37 years old and ready to go. Some of
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: these guys like Steinbach, you know, he's like 14.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I was telling y'all damn clown Yaxel haters out there,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: like a mitt. I was telling y'all clowns, that's a
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: basketball player.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Um, uh, no, he didn't remember. It was all the
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: immaturity questions and stuff. He's averaging like 20.7.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Boards, five assists right now for golden state.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: So he has Sam and he's getting up into Lucas.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I've got a mid stats.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Sam Howell's winning super bowls and he's got his numbers here.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Um, uh, seven Oh four says we ain't in the
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: mood for any positive Hornets talk. It's not even, it's
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: not even positive Hornets talk. I have no idea if
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: this rebuild plan is going to work. I have no idea. Bone, uh,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: If the asset acquisition and when they finally cash them
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: in for a big move or big moves, I have
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: no idea how it's going to turn out. I hope
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: it's going to turn out great. But what I'm saying is, Bone,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: we have to remind ourselves, when they traded LaMelo, it
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: was not so we could be great in the first
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: three weeks of the season this year. especially with injuries
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: that we've had. It was to get more assets. It's
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: a player they ultimately didn't trust to be a part
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: of a championship contender down the road. And this thing
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: is going to take multiple years to figure out if
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: the Lomelo trade worked. Fans don't want to hear that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I understand it. You're out of patience. You've been asking,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: you've been, you've been told to be patient by the
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Hornets front office bone for years. So I get that
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: people are tired of it. I also think we've got
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: to tell ourselves, and this is what I wasn't doing yesterday.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I was doing what y'all doing right now. I was
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: getting emotional and I was annoyed and pissed. But if
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: you sit there and try to pragmatically think about it, Bone,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: we also can't.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Say, be patient.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I've been patient for 20 years as a Hornets fan
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: because this regime just started. You can't hold the past.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Like that's the disconnect between the fans and the regime.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: The regime is here. Like I have to do this patiently.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: This is the right way to build. The fans are like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: can you please hurry up? We've sucked for two decades.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: You know, so it's just different, man. You know, it's just,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: it's just different way of thinking.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: All right, when we come back, Matt, this is going
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: to be must-hear radio. Taylor Tannenbaum of the ACC Network
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: is very passionate about the playoff rankings, the way that
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Wake Forest was treated so far. She will give her
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: taste on that, the matchups this weekend, how does Miami
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: survive without Tony, all that and more. Next, Taylor Tannenbaum,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: ACC Network, Matt Bone, Sports Radio 92.7.