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- 0:00Speaker 1: But our next guest is going to give you great content.
- 0:02Speaker 2: He's getting ready to do uh serious radios NBA radio
- 0:06Speaker 2: coverage of the draft tonight. He is always great to
- 0:09Speaker 2: have on this show, and he's nice enough with his
- 0:11Speaker 2: time on Draft Day to give us a few minutes.
- 0:14Speaker 2: He is Tom Crean and he joins us on the
- 0:16Speaker 2: Mac and Bone Show. Tom coach, it's a pleasure. How
- 0:19Speaker 2: you doing, what's going on?
- 0:21Speaker 3: I'm great, I'm great, just in New York in our hotel. Actually,
- 0:25Speaker 3: they're investigating a cause of an alarm. So if for
- 0:29Speaker 3: some reason, I got a cutage short, so you hear
- 0:31Speaker 3: a lot of noise that just kicked in like that,
- 0:33Speaker 3: right there.
- 0:34Speaker 4: So okay, go ahead, all right, if you need you
- 0:39Speaker 4: need to go. Let us know this was the regular season.
- 0:41Speaker 4: We'll blame raft for this for some reason.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Right I'm going I'm going to be multitasking, all right.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Good?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Hey, before we get to the Hornets and the draft tonight,
- 0:51Speaker 2: from a Hornets perspective, big news for college basketball and
- 0:54Speaker 2: the NBA is Dusty May by all accounts, taking that
- 0:59Speaker 2: Maverick's job job. Like do you just fear this is
- 1:03Speaker 2: a case of the all that's going into the current
- 1:07Speaker 2: college game and the mess that is. Do you feel
- 1:10Speaker 2: like that is and do you feel like we're a
- 1:12Speaker 2: jeopardy of continuously losing great college coaches the way the
- 1:16Speaker 2: college game is now.
- 1:18Speaker 3: No, not really. I have a different vantage point on it,
- 1:20Speaker 3: I really do. I mean it's first off, it's the
- 1:23Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. I mean, that's a great job. That's a
- 1:26Speaker 3: great job. And if it's true that John Shire would
- 1:29Speaker 3: have had an opportunity to go there, that would have
- 1:31Speaker 3: made sense too. He's just on the verge of winning
- 1:34Speaker 3: a championship at Duke, and it's Duke, right, There's so
- 1:37Speaker 3: many different things that they have that others may not.
- 1:41Speaker 3: They may have something like it, but they may not
- 1:43Speaker 3: have it as good as they have it there. So
- 1:45Speaker 3: I think with guys like John Shire and Dusty like
- 1:48Speaker 3: that makes sense to go if you want to. I mean,
- 1:53Speaker 3: the salaries are so high, the resources for nil and
- 1:57Speaker 3: your rev share and all that is so high. I
- 1:59Speaker 3: think it's a tough time. I don't think there's any
- 2:01Speaker 3: question that it's a tough time. But the hardest part
- 2:05Speaker 3: is probably, Yes, it's hard to deal with agents. Yes,
- 2:09Speaker 3: it's hard to deal with getting the players committed. Certainly,
- 2:12Speaker 3: you're going to lose them, very likely after one year
- 2:16Speaker 3: in most cases, but you just keep adjusting to it.
- 2:19Speaker 3: I feel way more for the teams in the mid
- 2:23Speaker 3: major to the low major level that have got a
- 2:26Speaker 3: fight to get in some type of rev share. I've
- 2:29Speaker 3: got to constantly be trying to raise money and have
- 2:32Speaker 3: golf outings and dinners and do all those types of things.
- 2:35Speaker 3: That's hard, man, because they know they're losing their team.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a good point.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Dusty did a great job. I mean, he's got he's
- 2:42Speaker 3: got one of the top jobs in college basketball. They
- 2:45Speaker 3: had one of the top nil rev shares with what
- 2:49Speaker 3: they're spending. I mean, he won a national championship. So
- 2:52Speaker 3: Dusty's a great coach now, there's no doubt about that.
- 2:55Speaker 3: I mean, and he's a he's a high level learner.
- 2:57Speaker 3: I mean, he's a he's a person that's always trying
- 3:01Speaker 3: to get better. I knew of him when he was
- 3:04Speaker 3: a director of operations at Indiana, but I got to
- 3:07Speaker 3: know him when he was an assistant at Florida and
- 3:10Speaker 3: then beyond. He's done a fantastic job, and I think
- 3:14Speaker 3: when you have the work ethic that he has the
- 3:16Speaker 3: pedigree and a job like the Mavericks come along and
- 3:19Speaker 3: you know, Cooper Flagg is what twenty years of age,
- 3:21Speaker 3: Let's go, man, I'll sign up for that. Most would,
- 3:25Speaker 3: I mean most would. It's the Mavericks. It's not like
- 3:27Speaker 3: he took over a team that's been in the lottery
- 3:30Speaker 3: for the last five years.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Yeah, we're We're.
- 3:33Speaker 4: He namored with a number of his players from Michigan
- 3:35Speaker 4: and tonight's draft for the Hornets, including Mores. Johnson's the
- 3:39Speaker 4: apple of ri right now has been Mores. What's your
- 3:43Speaker 4: breakdown and assessment of his game as he transitioned.
- 3:46Speaker 1: To the pro level.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Well, I think I think could get I don't think
- 3:51Speaker 3: that Die mar is going to be there when they pick.
- 3:53Speaker 3: You're talking about the Michigan guys, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 3:56Speaker 3: I think I think Mares Johnson would be antable pick.
- 4:00Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be there at fourteen now, who knows?
- 4:03Speaker 3: Fourteen and eighteen could allow them to move up. I
- 4:06Speaker 3: don't think there's any question that could happen. I mean,
- 4:08Speaker 3: you could watch for that with Dallas would make sense.
- 4:12Speaker 3: There's other teams that would make sense in that. See.
- 4:14Speaker 3: I think a couple of things about the first round,
- 4:16Speaker 3: They're going to be interesting. Terrs A. Cuff wants to
- 4:19Speaker 3: be in Sacramento, So what's going to happen. Is he
- 4:22Speaker 3: going to get drafted before and then maybe traded to
- 4:25Speaker 3: Sacramento and then there's gonna be some pick swap there.
- 4:28Speaker 3: New Orleans is trying to get into the first round
- 4:30Speaker 3: as of this yesterday because they have their eyes on somebody.
- 4:35Speaker 3: So is Trey Murphy gonna go? And is that going
- 4:38Speaker 3: to move somebody up? There could be some real maneuvering
- 4:41Speaker 3: after five and I think that's going to be interesting.
- 4:44Speaker 3: So that affects the Hornets because if you could get
- 4:48Speaker 3: Mares Johnson at fourteen and you stayed there, If you
- 4:51Speaker 3: could get Yaxel Landenborg at fourteen and you stayed there,
- 4:54Speaker 3: if you could get Hans Steinbeck from Washington who's from Germany,
- 4:58Speaker 3: those are really real good picks. And let's say you
- 5:02Speaker 3: go big first Mores and Kareem Lopez is in that group.
- 5:06Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's the best fit for them, but
- 5:09Speaker 3: Morez or Jacks ol Landiberg would be tremendous for that team. Yeah,
- 5:13Speaker 3: And oh, I'm sorry.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm interrupting you you're the expert. No no, no, no, okay, okay,
- 5:20Speaker 1: I welcome to my world. Coach.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna get blasted. Max interrupted coaches trying to he
- 5:26Speaker 2: spit knowledge. All right, anyway, Yeah, take that coach gonna
- 5:29Speaker 2: yell at you. He's he's got arms and back right now.
- 5:32Speaker 1: All right.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Tom Crean is with us NPA Radios coverage of the
- 5:35Speaker 2: draft tonight on Sirius.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:38Speaker 2: The only reason I was antsy to jump in is
- 5:40Speaker 2: because Yaxel seems polarizing, right, Like there is the age
- 5:45Speaker 2: that some people are afraid of. There's also this maturity stuff.
- 5:48Speaker 2: You know, some of the press conference answers, the video
- 5:52Speaker 2: about Purdue who they got out there. Even there's even
- 5:55Speaker 2: talk of, hey, some teams were turned off by him
- 5:57Speaker 2: in interviews. What do you think about Yaxel as a
- 5:59Speaker 2: proper and do you worry about any any of those supposed.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Negatives they got LaMelo ball there right, come on, man,
- 6:08Speaker 3: come on, I mean we're overthinking people. I'll tell you this.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Back in twenty seventeen, oh Giannaobi when we were at Indiana,
- 6:16Speaker 3: he was he had an injury. He missed his last
- 6:18Speaker 3: deteen games with us. He had the acl injury. There
- 6:21Speaker 3: were people overthinking his interview process. There were over and
- 6:25Speaker 3: there were people overthinking how quiet he was and things
- 6:28Speaker 3: of that nature that didn't work out for those teams
- 6:30Speaker 3: that didn't pick him. Right. I mean, he just you
- 6:32Speaker 3: can overthink this. I think where I don't profess to
- 6:36Speaker 3: know him in a great way were interviewed him yesterday.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I think he's got a lot of spirit and energy. Yes,
- 6:42Speaker 3: he says things that the guy can play. I mean
- 6:45Speaker 3: he can play and do multiple things. And I think
- 6:48Speaker 3: right now, the age thing, I think it's going to
- 6:50Speaker 3: become less of a factor on teams that are like
- 6:54Speaker 3: ready to win now and it's time for Charlotte to win.
- 6:57Speaker 3: They're right there. I mean everybody sees coming and I
- 7:02Speaker 3: think he can score, he can shoot it. He got
- 7:05Speaker 3: more athletic there, he can rebound, he's tough, he's competitive.
- 7:10Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be fearful walking into
- 7:13Speaker 3: a playoff game in April on the road for two games.
- 7:17Speaker 3: I just think you're going to be able to put
- 7:19Speaker 3: him in. He's going to be a contributor. I wouldn't
- 7:21Speaker 3: call him maybe a starter just yet. I'm sure he
- 7:24Speaker 3: would start games, but he is going to be a
- 7:27Speaker 3: guy that can help impact winning. I believe that, and
- 7:30Speaker 3: I just think he keeps getting better and better. I
- 7:33Speaker 3: called one of his games three years ago for ESPN
- 7:35Speaker 3: when UAB was playing at North Texas, and even then
- 7:39Speaker 3: I thought he was the best pro prospect in that league.
- 7:41Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't ready to be a pro, but
- 7:43Speaker 3: he was the best pro prospect. So Mares Johnson, though,
- 7:47Speaker 3: has got If you could get him, you're just getting
- 7:50Speaker 3: one of the highest motors in the draft. You're getting
- 7:53Speaker 3: one of the best rebounders, one of the best end
- 7:55Speaker 3: to end players. He's going to get better with his
- 7:58Speaker 3: decision making. He's going to learn how to make plays
- 8:01Speaker 3: out of a short role. Charlotte's a well coached team,
- 8:06Speaker 3: so I mean they're gonna get those guys better. Look
- 8:08Speaker 3: at what they're doing, so I would not overthink the
- 8:10Speaker 3: actual thing. They may know more than I would know,
- 8:14Speaker 3: and that's their job. So maybe they see something that
- 8:18Speaker 3: they don't like. But when you look at talent, energy, effectiveness,
- 8:23Speaker 3: level of improvement that he's made in the last couple
- 8:25Speaker 3: of years, especially athletically, I think it'd be a great pick.
- 8:29Speaker 4: Coach has been some reports of the Hornet's interests at
- 8:32Speaker 4: eighteen in Bennett Starts or Cameron Carr some guards. Does
- 8:37Speaker 4: either one of those make sense to you? For the Hornets.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Bennett Starts for sure, absolutely or even Labaron Phylon. I mean,
- 8:48Speaker 3: Pylon is a guy. He plays with great joy. He
- 8:52Speaker 3: can really shoot it, out standing three point shooter. He
- 8:55Speaker 3: got better and better defensively at Alabama. So he's a
- 8:58Speaker 3: two way player. Fearless, absolutely, fearless, great confidence. I think
- 9:04Speaker 3: he would fit in Sturtz. Could could have a tremendous career.
- 9:08Speaker 3: He is so good shooting the ball and so good
- 9:12Speaker 3: with his footwork. He's an outstanding passer, makes decisions. I
- 9:18Speaker 3: think I've said this on numerous shows, so I'm not
- 9:20Speaker 3: saying anything outlandish. I think, not immediately, but if he
- 9:25Speaker 3: continues to grow, Like when you watch it walking around
- 9:27Speaker 3: the interviews yesterday, he looks like he's an intern for
- 9:31Speaker 3: the NBA office, right, Like you don't look at him
- 9:33Speaker 3: and say, wow, this guy, this guy's going to be.
- 9:36Speaker 3: This guy's going to be a guard on a playoff team.
- 9:39Speaker 3: I think he eventually, not early on. He has Steve
- 9:43Speaker 3: Nash similarities in his game. There is no doubt about that.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Oh man man, but it's going to take a while.
- 9:48Speaker 3: Steve Nash wasn't Steve Nash early on either, right, Yeah,
- 9:51Speaker 3: and he was good, but I mean it took going
- 9:53Speaker 3: to Phoenix from Dallas for that to break out. I
- 9:56Speaker 3: think Sturtz can really shoot the ball.
- 9:58Speaker 1: That's strong stuff right there, Coach.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Obviously, Charlotte's got, you know, a need inside size and Mores.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I think you've talked him up.
- 10:07Speaker 2: I think we as fans really love him, but it
- 10:10Speaker 2: feels like if he's not here, I think a lot
- 10:12Speaker 2: of fans think, Okay, Steinbach out of Washington is a
- 10:17Speaker 2: great pick.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Talk to me about his game.
- 10:19Speaker 2: I know he goes after the board like it's like
- 10:21Speaker 2: like it's a dinner and he hadn't eaten in a month, Like,
- 10:24Speaker 2: what's what do you think about Steinbach? If Mores isn't
- 10:27Speaker 2: on the board at fourteen, is that a good pick?
- 10:30Speaker 3: I think it's a good pick. It's going to take
- 10:32Speaker 3: a little bit defensively with all the coverages and the
- 10:36Speaker 3: ability to guard the ball and just all the different
- 10:40Speaker 3: things you've got to do defensively, but the quickness is there.
- 10:43Speaker 3: I think his body got stronger. He can shoot the ball.
- 10:47Speaker 3: He talked to us yesterday and the interviews of how
- 10:49Speaker 3: much he's been working on his catch and shoot. In
- 10:51Speaker 3: his pre draft workout, he looked great, he looked bigger. Well.
- 10:54Speaker 3: I had a chance to spend two days out at
- 10:56Speaker 3: Washington in the fall before the season kicked in. I
- 11:00Speaker 3: did a clinic up there and I watched them practice,
- 11:03Speaker 3: and the thing that struck me was how quick he
- 11:06Speaker 3: was for that size. And so there's a level of
- 11:09Speaker 3: quickness to him that I think is going to continue
- 11:12Speaker 3: to come out. He's going to become a better athlete
- 11:15Speaker 3: in the NBA, but he's top. Immediately comes in a rebounds.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Awesome stuff here, awesome stuff. We got you.
- 11:27Speaker 2: That's on me, coach, that is on me. Just like
- 11:29Speaker 2: I in erupted you earlier. Now, I didn't respond you
- 11:32Speaker 2: because my mic was off like a dummy. I was
- 11:34Speaker 2: restricting the coach. I was listening to the game plan.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Bo was already doing wind sprints. You already he was.
- 11:39Speaker 2: He was so respectful. You said, I'm doing game he
- 11:42Speaker 2: said in sprints. It was one, all right, it wasn't.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Coach.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen. I tried to multitask with the fire alarm.
- 11:50Speaker 3: You guys got to get better at all time.
- 11:52Speaker 1: And we got no excuse, we got no fire alarms
- 11:54Speaker 1: going off.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Well, I still dropped the ball, coach, Coach, Hey, it
- 11:58Speaker 2: never fails every time you come on. We got multiple
- 12:01Speaker 2: texterters saying, man, I love Tom Crane. This dude's awesome.
- 12:05Speaker 2: So we really appreciate it. Listeners love your breakdown of
- 12:09Speaker 2: these guys. You do a great job of your expertise.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Right is above and beyond certainly what we all have,
- 12:15Speaker 2: but you put it in a great way I think
- 12:17Speaker 2: for the listeners to understand.
- 12:18Speaker 1: So we appreciate you.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Have fun tonight doing the draft coverage, Coach, appreciate you
- 12:23Speaker 2: a lot, all right, thanks coach,