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L69 The Strange Happenings around The 3 Mounds with Marcus Ellis · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, this is a live episode that I had
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  Speaker 1: with Marcus Ellis from the North American dog Man Project
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  Speaker 1: in Mississippi. He is the representative from Mississippi. Great Gentlemen
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  Speaker 1: have had him on a few times and we talked
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  Speaker 1: about his dogmin experiences and also the black Box. You
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  Speaker 1: can go back and check the episodes where he found
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  Speaker 1: a eight foot q black flat in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a wildlife management area in Mississippi, and it was quite
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  Speaker 1: an incredible podcast. So you can go back and check
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  Speaker 1: that one if you like. And this time he came
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  Speaker 1: on because he kept mentioning these three Indian burial mounds
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  Speaker 1: that were always crazy and he calls him the Hell's
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  Speaker 1: Gate and the experiences that he had around that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think he went out there work one MK Davis
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  Speaker 1: and so he just goes has and details all that
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  Speaker 1: here in this life. Every Friday I have a live
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  Speaker 1: at six forty five pm Eastern Time, and every Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: I have a regular show. And if you have an
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  Speaker 1: experience of detail, excuse me, an experience an encounter, and
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  Speaker 1: you want to reach out to me, please do me
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  Speaker 1: a favor and do so, and you can do that
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  Speaker 1: through my email at the IA Jupiter Podcast at gmail
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  Speaker 1: dot com one more time Theio Jupiter Podcast at gmail
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Or you can go down into the description
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  Speaker 1: below and contact me through any of my social media
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  Speaker 1: accounts and I'll have you on the show. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: Just go ahead and reach out to me and we'll
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  Speaker 1: make it happen. So enjoy this episode with mister Marcus Ellis.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, brother, what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 1: It's been a minute. Man, I'm doing good. How are you? Man?
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  Speaker 2: I can't fuss none. I mean, nobody's going to listen
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  Speaker 2: to me fuss, so I'll just keep it to myself.
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  Speaker 2: But it's it's you know, better than I deserve. I'll
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  Speaker 2: say it like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're doing well, you're feeling well. How's the summer
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  Speaker 1: bend for you?
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  Speaker 2: Hot? I mean, like everywhere it's Mississippi. Southern heat is
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  Speaker 2: it is usually a creature unto itself, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: from what I'm seeing of most of the country, it
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  Speaker 2: looks like we're sharing that heat with everybody. Hey, Pamela,
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's just hot all over. We've actually had
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  Speaker 2: a break this week. Things have been like nineties, so
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  Speaker 2: that's not bad for us. But the the the winning
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  Speaker 2: streak ended. Next week, the heat comes back, and it's
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be another scorcher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude. I mean for me, I'm down here
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  Speaker 1: on the Yucatan, so it's always hot, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the jungle, and so you know, for me, it's
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  Speaker 1: actually the slightly cooler period from us. For us, it's
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  Speaker 1: April May and June is just scorching hot, dry as
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  Speaker 1: a popcorn fart. And now we get the nice heat
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  Speaker 1: which has been about ninety three every day instead of
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten, but we get the nice hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent commidity and rain in the afternoons. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think both of us are enjoying our summer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually looking forward to a cool down because I
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  Speaker 2: missed getting out in the field. I'm a boots on
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  Speaker 2: the ground kind of guy, and it's just so hot
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  Speaker 2: and dangerous out there right now. Hey, James, you know that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I just don't want to take no chances.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of years back, might have been last year,
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  Speaker 2: after I had the bigfoot sighting in one of the
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  Speaker 2: local refuges here, I took M. K. Davis, my buddy
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  Speaker 2: MK and one of his friends out there to show
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  Speaker 2: them where this thing happened. And you know, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, MK is thinking, we're ten foot tall, we're bulletproof.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're the only thing that can hurt us
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  Speaker 2: is kryptonite. You know, we're Superman. And we got proven
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  Speaker 2: wrong real quick. We both got out there and got overheated,
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  Speaker 2: like say, it was August and and and that taught
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  Speaker 2: me a valuable lesson. I was like, as badly as
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  Speaker 2: I want to get out in the field and research
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  Speaker 2: and investigate my research areas, I'm just gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: wait and be smart, wait till it cools.
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  Speaker 1: Off, maybe into September, October, maybe the leaves come down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe it's still walking a little bit. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so making so much noise, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that that absolutely helps too. I mean, when
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  Speaker 2: you lose foliage, it gives you a better eyeball on
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  Speaker 2: what you're looking at, what may be trying to sneak
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  Speaker 2: up on you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, it's kind of a it can
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  Speaker 2: go both ways. It can work to your advantage, it
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  Speaker 2: can work to their advantage. I think most of the
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  Speaker 2: time it works to their advantage. You know, they're they
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  Speaker 2: seem to be a couple of steps in front of
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  Speaker 2: us when you're dealing with fast Watching and dog Man
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  Speaker 2: and the paranormal.
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  Speaker 1: Mel Skahan again, yesterday I had him on for a
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  Speaker 1: regular show episode and he's they're actually starting to He's
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  Speaker 1: been having excitings for you know, last twenty five thirty years,
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  Speaker 1: being like a forest like industry guy who you know,
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  Speaker 1: protects land and fire breaks and those kind of things,
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  Speaker 1: marking data points. And he started having contact with them.
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  Speaker 1: So within the last year he started to get like
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  Speaker 1: the mind speak, He's starting to, you know, feel them more.
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  Speaker 1: He said he was actually felt like he was being
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  Speaker 1: scanned with two other gentlemen who's never been out there before.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's they are the masters of their domain
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  Speaker 1: and were just in their living room. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the one thing I took away from
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  Speaker 2: you know, I recently got into the work of Scott
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  Speaker 2: Carpenter and reading his book and and of course now
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  Speaker 2: we know that that poor Scott's passed on, but in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of his videos and his books he talks
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  Speaker 2: about the mind speak, uh, and and it gave me
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  Speaker 2: a whole perspective on on it. And and now I
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  Speaker 2: kind of feel like I almost feel like sometimes if
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  Speaker 2: you get an overabundance of it, that it might very
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  Speaker 2: well be dangerous. I think that's what Scott was. That's
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  Speaker 2: what Scott was, you know, speaking about and leaning towards
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  Speaker 2: and I've never had mine speak now I've had uh,
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  Speaker 2: how do I say this? I Well, I'll just be blunt.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Christian, and I know for a fact I've
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  Speaker 2: had the voice of discernment, God whatever. I have definitely
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  Speaker 2: had that voice pop up in my head and tell me, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you need to you know, literally you need to turn
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  Speaker 2: around and go home. I mean I had things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I as matter of fact, it was
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  Speaker 2: the same place where I saw the sasquatch crossing crossing
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  Speaker 2: the road behind me, and I got bluff charged because
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  Speaker 2: this area, this is a different uh wildlife management area.
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  Speaker 2: The sasquatch that are there, I've said before and I'll
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  Speaker 2: say it again, I don't trust them. You have to
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  Speaker 2: really watch these these creatures, uh, in this particular area,
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  Speaker 2: because they're they're not nice, they're not real friendly. And
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  Speaker 2: whenever I go into this particular research area, I I
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  Speaker 2: make double sure that that I've I'm prepared. I've had
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  Speaker 2: equipment issues, uh, Skylake and and then this place here
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  Speaker 2: is the only two places I've ever had equipment malfunctions.
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  Speaker 2: And again I I think, I think when you get
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  Speaker 2: an overabundance of mind speak it it may not be
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  Speaker 2: good for the human body. That's just that's just me,
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  Speaker 2: that's my my thoughts. So you hope your friend is
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  Speaker 2: is being real cautious and careful.
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  Speaker 1: He's uh, he's a good guy. Man, He's a good guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's a he's a Native American, uh in the Northwest. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And you know he's he's been doing it for a
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  Speaker 1: very long time. And it's he said, it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot. It just comes once in a while. You know.
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  Speaker 1: One time he had a he was with somebody and
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  Speaker 1: she was showing him an area where she was having
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  Speaker 1: some activity and the things that you need to go
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  Speaker 1: up to her and give her a hug and say
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  Speaker 1: thank you for bringing you there. And then she went
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  Speaker 1: up and said that he said, I gotta hug you.
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  Speaker 1: They said to do issues like okay and yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then they were like okay, and they were fine and
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  Speaker 1: then they left. But it's been other times too, where
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  Speaker 1: you know, he feels, you know, like kind of the
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  Speaker 1: zap feeling. But he says, it's more like you're being scanned,
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  Speaker 1: and the closer you get to in there, if they
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  Speaker 1: don't want you there to get more intense. And then
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  Speaker 1: he backs away and he leaves. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and and that's the thing. What they're the
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  Speaker 2: nine times out of ten, that's what they're doing. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're they're letting you know, hey, you're too close, like
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  Speaker 2: what happened with me again? You know, I was really
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  Speaker 2: thinking about this hard today. I was listening to another
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  Speaker 2: podcast about an episode that an encounter that happened here
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  Speaker 2: in Mississippi.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I heard that one.
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  Speaker 2: I know exactly what when you're talking, yeah, where whatever,
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  Speaker 2: They were like like.
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  Speaker 1: You had to give the top the beaverdam Yes, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: So so it got me to thinking because they could
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  Speaker 2: not see this creature. And the host was telling about
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  Speaker 2: an episode where they were filming a documentary and they
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  Speaker 2: were in Docman territory. Yeah, Tony Merkle, amazing, amazing guy.
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  Speaker 2: So it dawned on me when when my episode happened?
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  Speaker 2: Because I've never really put a whole lot of thought
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  Speaker 2: into this, but it's the God's honest truth. Right before
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  Speaker 2: I turned around and I caught this sasquatch crossing the
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  Speaker 2: trail behind me. I got bluff charged. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've got the video up on my YouTube channel of
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  Speaker 2: me on the trail and I'm talking. I'm just kind
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  Speaker 2: of documenting to the camera what's going on. This event happens,
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  Speaker 2: and I wheel around and I'm looking right across the
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  Speaker 2: creek where this commotion, this loud commotion, and this feeling,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hit the back of my neck.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And I turn around and it's nothing there. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's nothing there. And I can see up into the woods.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's nothing. And that's what Tony was talking about,
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  Speaker 2: how they they got charged and and they're sitting there
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  Speaker 2: looking right where they're this charge is originating from, and
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  Speaker 2: they can't see anything. And these two guys here in
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi that they're they're hearing and and and witnessing these
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  Speaker 2: limbs cracking and popping and all, and uh, they can't
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  Speaker 2: see anything either. And and it dawned on me. You know, Marcus,
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  Speaker 2: you've never really spent a whole lot of time thinking
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  Speaker 2: about that. You've always kind of focused on mister creepy
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  Speaker 2: coming across the back of the trail, and and and
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  Speaker 2: and why why not? I mean, you know, when you
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  Speaker 2: turn around and you catch one of them slipping across
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  Speaker 2: the trail, you don't know if he's trying to get
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  Speaker 2: close to you or he's just trying to get to
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  Speaker 2: his buddy across the pond or the creek. So the
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  Speaker 2: the bluff charge has never been out of my mind.
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  Speaker 2: But to really focus on on that, that charge, that
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  Speaker 2: feeling of something literally just rushing up behind you and
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  Speaker 2: then you turning and again, I've got a freaking camera
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  Speaker 2: in my hand, and I'm turning around and there's nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been different if there had just been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of foliage and brush over there in front
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  Speaker 2: of me. I'm looking all the way up into the
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  Speaker 2: into the woods. There's nothing there.
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  Speaker 1: So James, it's I'm sorry, Marcus. James r. Hood said
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  Speaker 1: he actually doesn't live that far from that area too.
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  Speaker 1: With the he said he actually went there today. He
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  Speaker 1: went there to that place to day. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: it in James what wants today?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you this. It's it's funny that
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  Speaker 2: James did that. My best friend, he is the man,
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  Speaker 2: no question about it. He's got some cahoo. I gotta
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  Speaker 2: haven James that. But my my best friend, my best friend,
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  Speaker 2: the guy who says, I will not go out into
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  Speaker 2: the woods with you. I will not go into the
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  Speaker 2: woods dog manning or big footing with you. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: let you do it. You go, you go get disappeared,
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  Speaker 2: and you get snatched up by the bigfoot. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going with you. What does he do two days ago?
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  Speaker 2: He goes to the place where this happened to So
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  Speaker 2: I hate to tell James, but my buddy beats you
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  Speaker 2: to it. But my friend told me, and and of
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  Speaker 2: course I'll be interested, James. Look, James is going boots
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. You know. My buddy just got up
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  Speaker 2: on the bridge and top. You know, my buddy just
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  Speaker 2: went to the he went to the to the gas
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  Speaker 2: station and then he told me. He said, there was
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  Speaker 2: this old dude out there pumping gas. And he just
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  Speaker 2: goes up to the old dude and he goes, hey,
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  Speaker 2: anything weird ever happened around here? No, I ain't, nothing
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  Speaker 2: ever happened around here. You know, nothing goes on around here.
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  Speaker 2: And and I yeah, great, great, du Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you really know how to think.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be careful.
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  Speaker 2: Break them, break them down, dude, you know, get them
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  Speaker 2: to talk.
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  Speaker 1: Marcus once again, who you are, Do me a favor,
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  Speaker 1: introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about yourself, and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll get into the reason why you came on today,
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, well, I'm Marcus Ellis, and as you pointed out, uh,
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  Speaker 2: i am the North American dog Man uh uh project
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  Speaker 2: Representative for the state of Mississippi. I've been in that
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  Speaker 2: role for about old heading no three months now.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: An outstanding organization and you know you should should look
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  Speaker 2: us up on the internet w w D of you
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  Speaker 2: dot North Americandogmanproject dot com. We have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ongoing cases.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's that we're looking into and checking into a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of data, a lot of case
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  Speaker 2: files and uh things from the past. We have a
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  Speaker 2: really hot case right now that we're working on. But
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  Speaker 2: like I say, it's right there on the front page
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  Speaker 2: and you can you can uh click on that and
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  Speaker 2: it'll take you to the videos of the investigation. Uh
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  Speaker 2: that's ongoing that that Jodie Cook and some of the
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  Speaker 2: others are are working on.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. I got into the cryptid field probably eight years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I had an episode happening here on my my property,
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  Speaker 2: and I reached out to h who was an old friend,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't realize at the time what he was
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  Speaker 2: doing in his spare time.
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  Speaker 1: But that was m K. Davis.
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  Speaker 2: And I got a hold of m K. M K
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  Speaker 2: and he took me under his wing, and he started
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  Speaker 2: teaching me and training me and taking me to all
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  Speaker 2: all these places. And one of the first places he
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  Speaker 2: took me, well, he took me to two places right
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  Speaker 2: off top of the bat The first place he took
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  Speaker 2: me to, I think it was my very first outing
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  Speaker 2: with him. He took me to the Honey Island Swamp
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  Speaker 2: monster area, so I got to see Harlan Ford's old
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  Speaker 2: camp and I got to trump around where Harlan you know,
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  Speaker 2: filmed the sasquatch down there. And while we were there,
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  Speaker 2: by the way we were, something was tailing us and
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  Speaker 2: we found tree brakes and all that. But the second
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  Speaker 2: place he took were the three Indian mans that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about tonight that we call Hell's Gate.
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  Speaker 2: But after that, you know, MK just just took me in.
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  Speaker 2: He taught me and trained me, and I had been
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  Speaker 2: I had been looking into this stuff ever since I
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  Speaker 2: was a teenager. Actually since I was a pre teen.
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  Speaker 2: I just soaked every book, magazine, TV show, my preachers
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  Speaker 2: and pastors. I would I would corner them up and
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  Speaker 2: hit them up college. And you know when the abduction
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  Speaker 2: phenomena kind of busted open with Whitley Streeber and Bud
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  Speaker 2: Hopkins and you know Mac and all those guys, I
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  Speaker 2: really I really got into that, and so I brought
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  Speaker 2: that on into the future with with what MK was
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  Speaker 2: teaching me and showing me. When COVID hit, I had
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  Speaker 2: just joined moufon and with everybody on lockdown and you're
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  Speaker 2: not able to get out it, it really throwed a
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  Speaker 2: wrench into me getting out with MK, because I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to get him sick. Of course he didn't want
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to get me sick. And I started a new job
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  Speaker 2: and that that complicated things. But anyway, I joined up
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  Speaker 2: with moof On and I became a certified field investigator
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  Speaker 2: and I investigated UFOs with them for about three years,
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  Speaker 2: and then I joined up with their alien abduction team
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  Speaker 2: and for about a year year and half I helped
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  Speaker 2: them with alien abductions, you know, talking with abductees and experiencers,
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  Speaker 2: and learned a lot from that. Well, again, the job
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  Speaker 2: was kind of taking a toll on me, and I
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  Speaker 2: just had I had too many irons in the fire,
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  Speaker 2: and I stepped away from moufon, you know, by by
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  Speaker 2: my own design. You know, They're they're awesome, They're great,
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  Speaker 2: and I wouldn't I wouldn't take a million dollars for
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  Speaker 2: the training and what I learned, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good people, a lot of good friends, you know, back there,
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  Speaker 2: but I missed getting out into the field. So I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of rededicated myself to h to the cryptied field.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to get off into the cryptied thing.
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  Speaker 2: And of course Bigfoot is always I mean that's where
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  Speaker 2: I started, That's where MK started me. And but I
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  Speaker 2: began hearing more and more about dog men and that
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely fascinated the mess out of me. And the
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  Speaker 2: more I looked into it, the more questions I was coming,
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  Speaker 2: you know, into contact with. But as time has gone by,
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  Speaker 2: more and more about the dog man has come to light.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And look the the the thing about dog man. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: noticed this when m K was teaching me and training me.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: We would talk to other bigfoot investigators and they would
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: just flat out tell you, I said it like this,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean to be disrespectful to to others.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: If if you have your theory, that's fine. I mean,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: it's America. Believe what you want. I mean, I believe
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: what I want. But when you when you when you
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: kind of when you kind of slam your your your
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: hands down on the table and you go, this is
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the answer, you know, that is what this is. I mean,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I I have a little problem with that because witness,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: none of them, none of us know, none of us
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: really know what exactly it is we're dealing with here,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and so many bigfoot investigators we're going there's no such
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: thing to dog Man. Dog Man is not real. It
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: does not exist. And all of these dog men reports
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: are nothing but misidentified bigfoot sightings. And I'm talking with
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: m K. I'm telling my friends, I'm like, I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: believe that for a second. I just too many. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: mean what I mean, we finally break the doors down
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and we start listening to our sasquatch witnesses and experiencers
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and friends that are seeing and bumping this thing. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't call them liars and we don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: slam what they say they saw, you know, face down
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: into the dirt. So why why are we doing this
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to to dog man witnesses? And I just realized there
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was a lot more to it. Well, thank goodness for
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: for for Linda Godfrey, you know, she's kind of the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: godmother of of of dog man research. When she started
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: putting out her books, that that level of credibility started
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: really rising up. And you know, it's it's done nothing
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: but in my opinion, get a lot better. And when
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you look at what Joe Cook and and his team
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: has done with the North American dog Man Project, I mean,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you know, they've they've got a sight and and they've
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: got a network that that is moof onish.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's key, and it's growing. And it's because
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the sightings are growing. So when again I started rededicating
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: myself to getting out in the field and again boots
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: on the ground getting out there, I just kind of decided,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you know what I really want to focus on on
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: dog man. I really kind of want to want to,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you know, make that kind of my little niche because
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and and and and you know, I hope m K
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: or nobody else takes me wrong when I say this,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: because I don't mean it this way. I mean it
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: as a compliment. If somebody thinks about bigfoot in Mississippi,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: one of the first guys they're going to go to,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: they're going to go to m K. And uh, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's rightly so, and and well and it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine. I mean, uh, you know, I can't I can't,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: let you know, hold a candle to what m K
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: knows about about bigfoot and giants and stuff like that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But I've learned a lot from him, and I was
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, why don't why again and again,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be egotistical or or you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: bragg Now, I don't mean it the way this is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: gonna sound. But I was just thinking to myself, why
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: don't you kind of focus on dog Man? Why don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you kind of maybe be the dog Man guy? And
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I just started reaching out to two different dog Man investigators,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and one thing led to another. I wound up speaking
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: with Vic Kundiffit. You know, uh, dog Man encounters Radio
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: good guy, just just a really sweet guy, and uh,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I was already kind of eyeballing the n A d
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: P and he uh he, he steered me right into uh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you know a couple of the North American dog Man
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Project guys. Literally, you know, hey, call this guy. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: talked to one guy. I didn't even realize he was
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: in a d P and uh, we didn't talked about
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: it night a police department and he.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a police North Dakota Police departments.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you know Jodie Cook come up with a
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, Jody could come up with a mouthful there.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It sounds real, and of course it is. It's very professional.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Uh but.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I was just like talking with this guy
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and he goes, well, you know I'm North American dog
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Man Project, right, And I'm like, no, I had no idea,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And he goes, we need to get you on board,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, sign me up.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Just from talking with you, just from talking with you, Marcus,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I can see. I mean like I feel every time
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I'm on the on the show with you, I feel
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: feel very relaxed, and I feel like as if I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: if I were to have, you know, something that would
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: happen to me like that, which I haven't, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: good or bad, doesn't matter. That. I feel that you're
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the type of type of person I can talk to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: about that. And that's what I think is your strength.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You're a very good listener, you seem to be very balanced,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you have a good point of view, you you're You're
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: just easy to get along with and talk to. And
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: that's why, you know, you've been on the show now
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the third time and a few months, and it's just
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it's always been a pleasure to talk to you. So
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, Jody, Jody made a good choice and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: uh in his uh in choosing you, my friend.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you well. I mean, I I appreciate that, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and and I will throw that. I will throw every
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: word you just said back to you, because I'm sure,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt in my mind, you're getting reports,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you're talking to eyewitnesses who are and and and you
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you come across the exact same way. I feel like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I could tell you anything. You know, I have an
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: old saying that that I always throw it. Guys. You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I trust you with my daughter and my check book.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the way I feel about.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: One. You know, I don't think i'd go that far
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: with anybody, maybe my daughter, but definitely not the check book.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But you're not going to get the chucke. Well, well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I don't have big out this in my check books.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm not afraid to give it to you.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But you know that that that that you you said
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: something very important a little while ago. Now, now that
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I'm an experiencer, now that I have seen these things,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: now that I have experienced the myriad of things that
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I have experienced out in the field, I can just
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: imagine how I would feel if somebody looked at me
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and I told them something that happened to me, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they laughed in my face, or they called me a liar,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: or or they said that, you know, I'm just I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm pushing creepy pasta or something like that. I mean,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I know how i'd feel that that that that can't
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: feel good. So again, it was it was something that
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Number One, that's just the way my mom and dad
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: raised me. They they raised me to be courteous, respectful,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and to listen to people and to help people. That's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: what I got, you know, from mom and pop Ellis
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and and then you know, coming up through the retail world.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's where I cut my teeth. You have
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to deal with people. You deal with people every single day,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and you got to help people, and you got to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: listen to the complaints, and you got to listen to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the good news and then then when you when you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: really get into the nuts and bolts of it. That
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: was something that that that I watched real close when
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: when m K would be interviewing people and and he
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: would have me tag along. He was always jovial, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: he was always warm, and he was always sympathetic, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: he always listened. And I'm like, Okay, how would you
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you know, chop that down. That's what you want to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: put in your toolbox.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just just the mere fact that I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: watched the whole thing about him trying to get the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: best version of the Patterson Kimlin film that he was
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: able to you know, slowly through the building relationships years yeah, years,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and he was actually actually met uh, you know, Roger
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Patterson's wife and was able to go in like yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: some cross base or garage or something and actually get
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the best version. It's not the original, but the best
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: version he had. And in that version he was able
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to get that picture to get So when you're going
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to do yeah, Mk. Davis is amazing. I agree, magical.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And if you're going to do these kind of things
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and people are having these things, they have no one
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to talk to, they have no whares to turn. There's
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: no doctor you can go to, there's no uh, there's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: no there's nobody. I mean even even a biologist who's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: found a duck bill platypus or some you know, like
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the white ivory build woodpecker in Mississippi too as well.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: It's also in Mississippi if I remember right in parts,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: they're going to look at you, yeah, like you're you're like,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about this? Those kind of things
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: don't exist. So I think, you know, the way you
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: do things lends itself to the credit your word of mouth,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and like, oh yeah that I had a gentleman on
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: we're talking about different points of view. You're being a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Christian for example. He he's a Young Earth creationist, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, that's odd. I don't know much
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: about that. He's well versed in the Bible, and he
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was telling me about you know, Pterodactyl's in northern Texas,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, I've seen this thing when
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I was twelve years old, man, and I don't know
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: how to explain it that other than my worldview and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this they kind of seem to line up. So you just,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: whether I agree with him or not on his worldview
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: or my beliefs or my religious upbringings or not, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: still need to be available for somebody to come and talk.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And that's I think I'm building that where people who
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: don't know me will actually call onto the show and say,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I watched your show. You know I enjoy
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: what you do. You make it lighthearted, but you're also mean.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you're not mean what you're saying. You have
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: meaning behind what you say, and I want to share
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: this with you. It's incredibly important. It's incredibly important.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, absolutely. And again, before before I I started
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: helping move on with the in the alien abduction section,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: uh you know again, I had read you know, all
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the classic literature. I'd read you know, uh John Max's book.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I had read you know, Bud Hopkins stuff. I'd read
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Whitley Strieber's Oh and and gosh, I can't think of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the other gentleman's name. It's rattle on tip of my tongue. Oh,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: good grief, the white haired gentleman. Uh, oh fiddle, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: can't think of the name right on tip of my
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: my tongue. But but my point is when when when
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you listen to some of the things that that alien
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: abductees and and and I almost say it like this,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: thank goodness, I never I never talked to an alien
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: abductee who went through that horror and terror that that
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that some of these these poor people went through. I mean,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it's it destroyed lives. I mean it, it just rip
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: people down to nothing, and and and it just it
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: completely shattered you know, everything around them. And to have
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: people make jokes about it, you know it it it it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: We move on. Allowed me to be a part of that. Again,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done it, no way, I wouldn't have
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: been that that idiot anyhow. But I just knew, Marcus,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you have got to be ready. You've got to be
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: ready for if you do bump into that person. And again,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you know, I talked to a lot of experiencers, a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: lot of people that that I wound up talking with
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: about about that. They were It's funny. I would get
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of phone calls and reports from Louis and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of it would be from around the New
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Orleans area. New Orleans is so haunted. It's absolutely pathetic.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it's.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But I would get a lot of people, you know, well,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: this is going on in my house, and and you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: do you think it's it's aliens? And and we would
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: talk on and I'm like, I think I can put
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you at ease that you're not dealing with with, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: an alien deal. You're probably dealing with something a little
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: more spiritual. Oh, thank God. And I would like, yeah, yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you really need to be thanking God because that's not
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: something I'd wish off on nobody.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, man, kudos to you, buddy. I really really
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: being a person who has an experience of myself and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: knowing like, for example, you know what anxiety is and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: other things in my life where people wouldn't listen to me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: It's good that someone did. And eventually, you know, you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: found people who dealt with that as well, and you go, okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going completely insane. It happens sometimes, So yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I understand. I really do. I have a lot of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of love and respect for people
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: to do that to be a fair Marcus. Let's get
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: into that second place. I think you called it Hell's Gate.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about what what you know?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You said you want to come on and share some accounters.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and do that, my friend.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, a little bit of the back history on
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: on Hell's Gate. When when m K first took me
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to this place, it's it's way out in the country,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give the exact
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: location because people live there. There's people in the vicinity.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I hate to even really kind of bring up I'm
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: really going to confuse you, but I really kind of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: hate to bring up the gates of Hell There. There's
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: basically two locations, and and I'll tell you the story
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: about that, uh as we move along here. But Hell's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Gate was what m K referred to this this area
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: where these three in Mount Trap and he took me
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: out there the first time. It was during the daytime,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and I mean the first time I'm there, I find
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a huge impression. Now I didn't see toes, but if
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: it was a bootprint, I mean this was a big dude.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I mean this was a big guy. So right off
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: top of the bat, I'm thinking, okay, there's something, there's
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: something odd here. But here's the thing about Hell's Gate.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Three Indian mounts. The big, huge one, the main one,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: is right by the river. There's two more right across
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the road, and they kind of form a triangle. It's
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: three of them now, the big one, the main one.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: This is no joke. I have never never had a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: good experience at that main mound. Never, And I don't
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: even know how many times I've been out there, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: mean probably close to one hundred. Never had a good,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: good experience there. Now the two other Indian mounds, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: go hiking and walking around those, they're just an oot smaller.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're still huge, but never had a bad,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: bad day. I never had a bad experience. Now, while
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I'm over there at the two smaller mounds, I've heard
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: things across the road going on that would absolutely send
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: a chill down your spoine. I've heard voices over there.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I've heard mumbling, you know, like like two things chitter
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: chattering and mumbling at each other.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Wow. And now at the.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Two mounds again, this is what kind of really fueled
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: my dogmen desire to hook up with the na DP
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and look into dog men. About two years ago, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: went hiking around the two smaller mounts hadn't been too
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: too long rained and dried up, and I found canine
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: prints out there. They were five and a half inches
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: long and five inches wide. Now, if that's if that's
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: a dog, that's a big dog. And and if you
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: look that up on on Google and stuff like that,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you're you're off into wolf territory. Now there are supposedly
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: red wolves that have been reintroduced back in uh, Mississippi.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So do I know that that was a dog man
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: print or prince? I got multiple uh photographs of these tracks.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I measured them. Uh, you know, I don't know. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of the talk about dog men is dog
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: men and bigfoot they hang out around Indian mounts. There's
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a connection there between between these things and cemetery.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a burial area.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: It's a burial ground and and and you know, bigfoot
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and dog men. I think dog men they have come
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: up right beside us. They came up beside the first
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Native American Indians that were in you know, and in
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and on this continent. Sasquatch and dog men have been
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: watching us for probably hundreds thousands of years, so they
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: these creatures know that these places, they were important to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: these peoples from what a bat. So maybe I need
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to hang out here, Maybe I need to protect this area.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: You know, who's to say? And I think I think
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: there's good spirits and good activity around these mounds, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: as I'm going to tell you, at Hell's Gate, there's
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: bad stuff, and I think on that main mound there's
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of bad stuff. So anyway, that was my
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: introduction to what we refer to as Hell's Gate. Now,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: as years went by, I really started trying to dig
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and find out more about Hell's Gate, the gates of Hell.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Which one is it? You know, what do we call this? Well, yeah, okay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: finally I finally figured it out. There was I think
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure about my time frame, so your viewers
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: are going to have to forgive me here. But way
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: back I'm going to say maybe late seventies, early eighties,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: there was a paranormal investigator. Her name was Janie Rayley,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and I tried to get a hold of Janis because
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do a documentary about what she saw
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and what me and MK were experiencing at these bounds.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But in listening to a segment that Janie did. What
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: happened was she went out there and this farmer. Somehow
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: or another, she found out that this was a really haunted,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: supernatural paranormal hotspot. She she met a farmer. The farmer said,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you go over there. I'm not going You're on your own.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'll stay up here. I'll watch you, but I'm not
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: going over there. She goes over to the spot where
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the farmer points out, and she gets the bejezus scared
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: out of okay when she left after seeing, hearing and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: smelling the the the the thing she saw, she heard
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: shooks and hollers and cries. She smelt something that smelt like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you know, dead rot and flesh. She saw the water
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: churning with this this fluorescent green uh you know, hue
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to it, and it frecks. She orbs and and and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, most of your your ghost hunters
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and ghostbusters, they're they're pretty stout of heart, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they're they're pretty tough people. And this freaked her out
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: so bad she swore she said, I will never I'll
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: never go back. Well, the local television station WJTV got
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to give them props. They convinced her to come back.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure how many years it was. It
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: might have been fifteen to twenty years later, I forget.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But they convinced her, Hey, let's go back. Let's go
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: back to this place, and let's see what happens. So
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: they took a film crew and their guy that worked
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: for the TV station. He loved that sort of stuff
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: at spooky stuff. So they hook back up with Janis.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: They all go back and the minute they get there,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: equipment drainage, battery drainage, malfunction of microphones. They start seeing orbs,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: they start hearing weird noises. You know, they've got all
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: kinds of crazy stuff going on, and you know, of
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: course Janie hung in there with them, and they all
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: come away from it, and it, uh, it was, it was.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: You can find that on the internet too, By the way,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, well, if you look up Gates of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: hell Satarsha, Mississippi, you're gonna find a website that will
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: take you to I think it's filled Reports Field reports
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: from from from Yazhoo County or something like that, and
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it will give you the whole story of Janis Raley's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: return to the Gates of Hell. But now in the meantime,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going out to Hell's Gate the Indian Mounds, both
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: by myself and I'm going with m K. M K
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: is going by himself and and together and separately. We're
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: having some crazy stuff happen there. But in the back
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: of my mind, something is telling me this ain't right.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Something's wrong here, And I start to question Gates of
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Hell Hell's Gate? Are we talkingalking about two different places? Well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: my buddy, the one who who who beat James Hood
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to the spooky place where the predator thing was walking
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: around poor James. I'm sorry, James. I'll I'll tell my friend.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I'll tell my friend to stay out of your your
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: your your kool aid. But but but this guy called
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: my buddy calls me and he says, Marcus, he said,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: tell me a little bit more about the Gates of Hell.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what, tell you what I know? And
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: he said, well, what's this deal about these these haunted trees.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about? He says, yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: he says, they're they're at the somewhere close to the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: bridge in Satarsha. There's this place where you know, all
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: this weird spooky stuff happens, and there's supposed to be
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: these these trees that are haunted and and and they
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: were like, you know, criminals executing hung from these trees.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I said, it was me what you're talking about. So
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: when I got the information from my buddy, I started
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: looking at it, and I'm like, there's two different places,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: me and MK. We we're looking at this in reverse,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: we're looking at it backwards. So I got my buddy
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: to come down. We met up, and we rode out there.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Because the bridge in Satarsha it is is a huge
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: part of the Gates of Hell.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Legend.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Supposedly, if you're on the bridge and you're looking down,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you can see the green stuff that Janice Ralely saw.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to confirm that, and I wanted to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: confirm what he was talking about the trees. I'm like,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: if I can find these trees, if I can prove
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that these trees exist, if they're real, if somebody's not
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: making up bogus stuff on the internet, then that that's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: going to that's going to be my big clue. So
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: we hop in the car, we ride out there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get specifics because people lived there and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I want to be respectful to the people of Satarsha.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: But we were driving along and all of a sudden,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: he hollers out there they are. I found them. There
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they are. There's the trees, and I slam on brakes
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and we're sitting there looking and we're like, holy cow,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: it's two different places we're looking at. Looking at this
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: in reverse. So a few weeks later, by myself, I
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: went back to where these trees were at, and every
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: inch that I walked, every every bit of ground I covered,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I felt like, you are where
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Janie Rayley was. You're walking in her footsteps, because I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: knew right then. I knew right then that what me
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and MK were looking at and what she experienced were
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: two whole different places. Now, I did have one spooky
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: thing happened to me at at the Gates of Hell,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and I think it was something bigfoot. I got screeched
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: and hollered at one morning while I was out there.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But it is right, you're a day You're a daytime guy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like blade, I'm a day walker.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe a big chicken.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, you know. But I found
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: out very quickly on. What happened to Jan is no
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: doubt was real and it happened, and it's a very
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: creepy place. Like I say, I had, I had one
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: thing happened there that that really rattled me, and that
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: was a screeching. But what has happened at those three
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: mounds blows that way totally, way out of the water,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: no comparison. The activity is on a whole different, different level.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: You're talking I'm talking bigfoot activity. I'm talking more likely
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: dog man activity, chupacabra activity, UFO activity, demonic entities, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: residual hauntings. This is like I call it a mini
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: skin walker ranch. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: That this is.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: This is what, this is what John Keel and other
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: people refer to as a window area. I mean, like
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I say, what the first night, the first night that
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: MK took me out there was was mind blowing. I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: mean it was it was mind blowing. It's like eight
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: thirty nine o'clock at night. I've got a spotlight and
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's I'm not I'm it was winter. I mean
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: we both had heavy coats on, so we go up
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: on top of the mound, and this mound is real steep,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: but then it kind of kind of slopes and levels
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: off to the right. And we're up on the top
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, we're just listening, looking, and all of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: a sudden, right down to our right, and we got
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: this on video and audio, something huge gets thrown and
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: tossed into the water. I mean, you feel the kathunk
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: of this whatever this was hitting the water in your chest.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: So what does genius Marcus and MK do. Oh, hey,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: let's go down here and check this out. You know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna go the other way. We're gonna go
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: check it out. So we go down there. There are
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: no ripples in the water because the flood water's were up.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: There were no ripples in the water, There was no mud,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: there were no critters, and we had been up on
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the mound long enough that if there were alligators or
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: anything like that, they would have long vamoost. So something
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: wanted us to know, Hey, you're not alone up here.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And so we come on off the mound and we
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: start exploring around the mound and we kept we kept
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: feeling something hitting us.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: You know, we're.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: And I've got a car heart coat on, and you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: everybody knows how to tick a car heart coat. But
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: we're hearing an MK's got a big coat on too,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: and we're hearing this little ping, ping, ping, ping ping,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And we figure out it's a little small pebbles about
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the size of your pinky fingernail. We don't know where
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: they're coming from, but they're bouncing off of us. Now,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the grass that we were walking beside was probably about
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: three foot tap And after the fact, you know, me
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and MK, we're talking and we're like, you know, there
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: could have been a sasquatch two feet away from us,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you know, throwing pebbles or stuff at us. We never
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: would have known it, right, So we start to leave,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and I've got a spotlight and I've got a at
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the high I had a camcord that that filmed off
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: of the old disks, the little disks very well at
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the time. I guess you say it's high tech. I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: mean it's pretty archaic now. But m K is in
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: front of me, and I've got a spotlight, and and
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: MK is walking up front, and I'm I've got the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: spotlight going so MK can see where he's walking. And
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, just out of the blue, a
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: rock comes out of nowhere and hits the light. I
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: mean it's not a big rock, but the accuracy, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm filming the accuracy absolutely. The next day,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: me and m K. We're looking at We're looking at
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: the flashlight. There's a ping on it. I mean that
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: where this rock hit this thing, there there's a scratch.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So so we we go up on the road and
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: we're standing there and m K goes, I'm gonna do
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a whoop. I wanna do a woop just to see
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: see what happens. We got all this stuff going on,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: let me, let me.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Do a whoop.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: So he does a whoop, and when he did that,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: it busted wide open. I mean across the river, across
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the way. We've got screams that started up. We've got
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: hous we've got whoops, we've got wooden knocks.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: And at one point we hear, now we just come
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: off of the main mound, we hear something walking around
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: up on top of the mound, crunching on the leaves
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and the dead, dead limbs that are up there. So
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: that that was my first night of really having some
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: crazy activity there. And like I say, it didn't stop there.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it, if anything got it got even more bizarre.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I had thought about it at one point of filming
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a documentary about you know, Hell's Gate, the Gates of Hell,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and I think, I think the next I'm trying to
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: remember because again it's been so much, but I think
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the next thing that really stood out for me was
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I went out there one morning. I was by myself,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and I had my camera and I wanted to shoot
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: some footage of the mound. What was I was hopefully
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: gonna use as b roll And I'm out there filming
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, walking around and stuff. Well, to get
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to the main mound, excuse me, you have to go
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: down this incline. And when you get down this incline,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: it levels out, and I'd say probably when it levels out,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: maybe fifteen yards, you're you're you're you're starting to go
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: up the main mound.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And so I started walking down the mound or down
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the incline and I look over to my right and
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: there's a dead possum land there and I'm like, okay,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that's that's odd. And I had my camera in my
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: digital camera. I was snapping pictures at this point. So
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I come back up, and I stopped and I look
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: at that that possum, and I'm like, you have got
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: to be kidding me. This possum did not have not
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: one iodoa. Now there might have been a little bit
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of fat, just scraps of fat, but this possum had
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: been picked bone clean. Every bone was intact. It was
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: not crunched up, it was not mulched up. They were
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: not This skeleton was one hundred percent fresh, and it
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: was one hundred percent intact. Whatever had been eaten on
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: this thing had taken It was like they took their
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: hand and they went to the backside where the tail was,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and they pulled the skin, the hide all the way off,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and it was all hanging there in a heap right there,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: one little strand was holding all that that that skin
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: right there on the tip end of its nose. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you have got to be kidd So, so
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: what would have the strength, the technical ability, I mean,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: because you know a bobcat, a bear, the we're gonna
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: sit there and pull the skin off, Yeah, the dexterity
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: and then then to be able to sit there and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: pick the meat off bones and then leave it laying
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: there So I'm sitting here, going like, wow, I'm off
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: to a great start. So I go I walked back
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: up to my vehicle and and I don't know, I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I went back for. But I
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: went back to my vehicle and I came back down.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, let me go ahead, let me go ahead
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and take some pictures of this, of this possible, this
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: is important. So I'm there and I'm taking pictures, and
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everything got deathly quiet. It's like
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: nine thirty in the morning, it's a beautiful sunshiny day.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's quiet. I'm the only somebody moving around out there,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: and it just gets deathly quiet. And all of a sudden,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: from what I perceived to be the back side of
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: the mound, I heard this rhythmic, you know, percussive metallic
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: ching ching ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: ching ching.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, like bells.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It was like beales. And and I'm standing there and
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: this sound, you know, it's like surround sound. This sound
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: comes out from the back side of the mound. It
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: passes right in front of me, and it goes on
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: around to the other side of the mound, and it
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: stops that's incredible. And I'm sitting there and I'm sitting
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: there and I'm grinning, like the chess your cat. I'm
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: going like, dude, you just hit the paranormal jackpot. And
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there, patting myself on the back and I'm thinking,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: holy cal And then it dawned them and like, dude,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you need to get the heck out of here. It's
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: time to go.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You need to go. So I did.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I called MK and told him about it, and uh, there.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Has If you ever listened to have you ever listened
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to things called keus ekeros, it's if you go to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Peru and you do ayahuascas, an ayahuasca ceremony, so they'll
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: take out the the medicinemen from their tribes there, their
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Indian tribes or their Native American tribes. And when you
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: go into this that they call it a plant medicine.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And they go, who you know, how did you guys
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: know to mix the root from this part of the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: forest and the viands or the leaves from this far
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the forest together to make this? And they go, oh,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the plants told us. And if you go online and
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: if you listen to these icarus or icharus I carous
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I got to look it up. There's one in particular
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: where they'll do like a little sing songy whistle thing
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and they have this little rattle that they use and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it does like a and then do you hear like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and they like sing you into this thing. And that's
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the first thing that popped in my head when you
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: said that. I was like, that reminds me of something
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that I've heard. Just the way you, the way you
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, stayed at this information. To me,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, this reminds me of an Icarus. Like
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: it's some type of you know, because they don't just
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: build the mounds for nothing, you know what I mean.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of work. So there's something either special
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: about that place or that they made special about that
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: place through some type of you know, traditional you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: things that they did to make that place what it is.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's an incredible, incredible account, incredible account.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Well and and you know, once I talk to m
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: K about it, I don't know. I think m K
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: might be able to identify the the the Indians that
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: were there, I don't I'm nine nine point nine percent
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: positive that it was that it predated the Choctaw and
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: the Chickasaw. You know, when we think about.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: You call them the mountains. I think they called them
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the mountain builders. All the way up the Mississippi, even
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: into the Ohio River Valley, they call them the mountain builders.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that kind of like separates out
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: different cultures, and we don't.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah it does, it does. Matter of fact, the huge
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: mound at Winterville, which is in Greenville, Mississippi, this thing
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: is fifty five feet tall, and they they this was
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: built by the plaque of mine, you know, in the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Mississippian era, as they call it. Uh, it predated the
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: chopped on the Chickasaw.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: And I just claimed when you winter, I just climbed
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: up a pyramid here in the middle of the rainforest
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: that's one hundred feet up in the air.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, well you know when you look at uh,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know, this thing is fifty five
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: feet tall and the only thing close close to it
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: are the huge mounds in Kahokia. And and I personally,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I personally feel and and there may have been something
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: weird about these these you know, these hells Gate mounds
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: that that have something to do with the nephlum.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: That's that's James with James Road.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I can't, I can't.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, James, that you brought that's interesting.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I mean I think I think something that big and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and and the state of Mississippi has restored that mound.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I mean it's now got a ceremonial ramp. I mean,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you know, you've got to take your hat off to
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the Mississippi Department of History and Archives. They have spent
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the money on a beautiful place, and they've lovingly restored
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: this mount. But when you stand there and look at
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: this thing, you can't help. I'll tell you this real quick,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: and I'll get back on track. I had a friend mine.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Her and her husband took their granddaughter to Winterville and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: this girl's I think she was twelve years old, very
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: smart young lady. They're standing there in front of this
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: fifty five foot tall monstrosity and they're talking about it,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the little girl looks up
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: at had her grandparents and she goes she's looking around,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: and the grandparents go, what what are you looking for?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: And she goes the whole where's the hole? And they're
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: like the whole, Like yeah, where where did they get
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: all this dirt, where's the hole? And they just kind
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: of laughed it off. But I told them, I said,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: that twelve year old granddaughter of yours has got a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: very good head on her shoulders. How did they build?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: But but you know, I mean that that that's that's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: probably another conversation for another time. But yeah, going back
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to the Three Mans. The next thing that happened to me, Now,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: this really really freaked me out, and I think.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: It did.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: It did several things to my to my my process.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: It completely tore I realized that I could not just
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: be a big Foot investigator no more. I can't. You know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: That's that's kind of you know, m case thing. You know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I just kind of focus on Bigfoot, and that's great.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he needs to do. But when
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: when what I'm fixing to tell you happened to me,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: all those books, all those talking with preachers and the pastors,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: going to church, reading the Bible, doing all this research,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: it it all comes back and and and here here's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to make. I went back out there
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: to to to do some more work on this documentary,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and not a whole bunch happened. I mean, nothing weird
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: happened this particular trip. This was a few weeks after.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I refer to it as a residual haunting.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: It was a few weeks after. So I go out
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: there and again I take some pictures, I take some video,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and I get in my car and I head back.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going down the road. Well often the distance there
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: there was this old Derek, you know, sitting there pumping,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: just chugging away. And I'm like, well, I'm gonna pull
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: over on the side of the side of the road
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: and I'll grab my my camera and I'll shoot some
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: footage of that for b RO. So I get out,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I cut my car off arc and and I get
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: on the hood of my car and I'm sitting there
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: filming and I shot, you know, a minute or two
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: worth of footage. Well, I get opened up my car
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: door and I see a camera on the front seat,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: and I got my keys in my hand, and and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I haven't put my keys in the ignition. I sit
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: down and I closed the door, and from the back
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: seat right behind my head, I heard this hiss this
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: come out of the back seat gives me right into
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: my ear.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: And and of course the first thing I do is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I turn around and and there's nothing back there. So
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: what what does the mind do? You freaking you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: the mind starts. The mind starts going, Okay, I got
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: to put this in a box. I gotta figure this
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: out right, that that didn't just happen. So the first
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: thing I'm thinking is I've got a flat tire. I've
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: been ran over something, and now all of a sudden,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I've got airport. I had that happen one time.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: So I mean I literally had to happen. Yeah, but hear.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: That I get out, Yes it was, And I bet
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: that was really funny for your viewers sitting there watching
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: me do that. But uh, but you know, I walk around,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with the tires. I get back in.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the air conditioning unit. I haven't even
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: put the keys in ignition, I still got the keys
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: in my hand, and I'm looking at the windows. I'm like,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: holy crap, there's a snake in here. So I'm digging
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: around looking for a snake. There's no snake, right and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: and and about that time, something told me, Marcus, you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: need to start praying. You need to pray, and you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: need to pray right now. So I did you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I asked for protection, and I asked for Hey, you know, God,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want nothing attaching itself to me or my
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: vehicle or my equipment, you know, because you can have
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: that hitchhiker effect. We hear about that with skin Ranch, Yes,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: we do. You know, that's kind of the that's kind
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: of the saying now, the hitchhiker effect. And I drove
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: down the road and I parked. I got way way
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: on down the road. I stopped and I prayed again.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm gonna hit it with both barrels,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: and sir, you know. I went on home. Everything was fine, nothing,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: nothing happened. But that that that made me realize, you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: you you need to put everything that you know. You
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: need to get that in your toolbox. You can't just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: be a bigfoot guy. You can't just be a U
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: f O guy. You can't just be of this or
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: you if you go out there into the field.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: And this is just me, I'm not saying that to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: to the other researchers. I mean, they know what they're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: doing and they have their their thing, and uh, you know,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: that's that's fine, that's great. But I knew that, Marcus.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I couldn't.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I couldn't look at the world anymore as I'm just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: going out here looking for bigfoot. I got proven wrong
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: real quick. It's not just bigfoot out there. I mean
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I have gone out looking for big big bigfoot, had
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: ufo experiences. I've gone out looking for you know, uh, poultry,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: guist type stuff, you know, having some other something weird happened.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm just like, you know, you need to need
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: to rethink this. And I did, and uh and and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I feel better and much happier about going going out now.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: And I pray up before, during and after, and I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: just think that's a that's a smart thing to do.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: And again that's just that's just my wheelhouse.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, quite a quite quite a strange place. Like I,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: like I said, I went here to a I was.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I went to an old hacienda, and then I went
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: to an old church built by the built by the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you know, when the Spanish first came here. And the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: gentleman I was with was telling me that they actually
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: took rocks or stones from the pyramids that we're going
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to see after this to help build this church, right.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: So I go into this church and he's said, be
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: careful there there. I think there's some bones in the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: floor here and what And it's a dirt floor, so
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: it's all you know, the ceilings caved in, and there's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: this whole like domed area where the pep, where the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: pulpit would be I think that's the correct word, where
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the preacher would stand. And Catholic church of course, this
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: is we're talking about the Spanish here. And if there
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: was I actually literally walked up there and you can
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: see like these indentations where people were kind of either
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: or animals were digging around. And I believe I'm not
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: a you know, archaeologist or anything like that or a biologist.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: There's some bones in the floor, you know, and underneath
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: where the preacher. And I asked him how did that happen?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: He said, well, you know, if you're you know, if
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: you're you know de voul Christian part of those churches
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: back then you can say I want to be buried
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: within the church. But there's still there. And then we
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: go to the pyramids and he said, and you can
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: see there was like three I've seen three of them,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: he said, see see these ones are messed up and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: you can see where the capstones were taken off. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: he said, remember those ninety degree angles and his rocks
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I were showing you. Now, let's go to the next,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: the next pyramid, which was I was telling you one
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: hundred feet uh, just in the middle of jone. If
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: you fly over, you could probably miss it with a helicopter.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: It's that dense out there, and you can see, oh wow, yeah,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: you can see that those were the actual rocks that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: they took to make the church. And when you're on
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: top of these structures out there, there's a certain feeling too.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: We're talking the Mayans, guys. These are you know, the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: civilization in meso America that really built up uh, these areas.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: So and when you go out there, you know, I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: always just put good intentions. I'm not necessarily a Christian
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: per se, but you know, I you know, it's it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: part of my culture and where I grew up, so
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: it's there with me. And uh, you know, I always
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I always say, you know, with the most
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: respect I can. And you know, if you know, if
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: you're here, you know, it's all cool, but you have
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: to be careful when you're doing these things, guys Marcus,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Where where can people contact you if they're if they're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: run across one of the saying, say James, you know
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: he's out there at this area with you know, they've
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: found on by the way turner Miracle's wife. I can't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: think of her name at the moment. You know, our
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: love and our prayers go out to her and hopefully
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: she gets over this awful sickness, you know, just to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: shout out there. I can't think of her name right now.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: He says it all the time, but I can't think
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: of it. And yeah, so where can where can people
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: reach and come and talk with you or contact you
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: if they feel they need to speak to somebody about
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: their experience as my friend?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, well, I mean if if if it's you know,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: in regard to dog Man, you can reach me uh
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: through the North American dog Man Project website North American
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: dog dog Man Project UH dot com. We have a
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Facebook group that really seems to be growing and taking off.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: It's the North American dog Man Project UH Mississippi State Chapter. UH.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: It's open to the public, you know, where we're letting
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: anybody come in it wants to come in and uh,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: you know, we've got some really cool members and uh,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: you know Pamela, Pamela helps out a bunch. She throws
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: up a bunch of stuff, and James throws in a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff and he's fantastic.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: I I I need to put them on my payroll
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: because a lot of times they're throwing stuff up. Uh
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: when when I'm either you know, in bed fighting, sinus
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: trouble or you know, I've had a crappy day at
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: work or something.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, she won't let me put her on the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: picks up. She's like no time. Yeah, no, yeah, not happening.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed this.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could afoord I don't think I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: could afford her our James. I mean, they're they're both there.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: They're they're worth their way and go. But uh, but
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: so you you can come there and you can contact
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: me there. I also have a website, uh www dot
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: unexplained Mississippi dot com and that also has a Facebook
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: page to it. Uh. I got a YouTube channel, Unexplained Mississippi.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: A lot of my adventures and stuff is up there.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: You can go watch different videos and things up there.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: The Black Box that we talked about. You know, I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: got a big video of about that and uh, the Killer.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: I did a I'm planning on doing a follow up.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I did one about Neffolum giants in Mississippi, and I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: look back on it at the time, I was like, yeah,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool, Marcus. You know, yeah, you did really good.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, you were winging it, you know, seriously,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: you know, so I'm playing, I'm playing. I'm planning on
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: doing one. This a little bit more, you know, maybe
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: professional whatever. But I got a lot of I got
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: a lot I had pastors. I had a lot of
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: pastors comment and go, wow, that's really interest you know
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: you talking about that, and uh, you know I kind
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: of I took it as a compliment, you know.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And my email address is, uh, my email address is
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: unexplained ms at gmail dot com. So you got there's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: probably what half a dozen I just named off ways
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: to find me, so I'm pretty easy to find.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I appreciate it, man, like always so very much.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger. You know, we'll keep in contacta back. Yeah, buddy,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: no problem anytime. And I really appreciate it so much
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that you came on and share those experiences and stories
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: with us today and gave us and that the Oh
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure. I just got to make sure
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: we've got fifteen minutes. The Magical Journey podcast comes on.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: In the fifteen minutes. I don't want to cut into
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: his time, and so I give myself an hour and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: a half. And you know, you and I we can
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: just talk forever. And uh, it's always a pleasure, mark
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: because I really appreciate it, and uh, I'm honored. I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your day. Oh yeah too, Yeah,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: same here, man. So guys, thank you all for being
• 1:13:09
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