Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #105: Gill1918 Presents 3-time Olympian Shannon Rowbury “Ask an Olympian Anything Highlights” Powered by Coach O
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- 0:00Welcome to the Gill 1918 Project, a podcast series by
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- 0:24With that in mind, let's grow. Hello everybody, Thank you for
- 0:30joining me tonight for this open session.
- 0:36We're calling it Ask Olympian Shannon Robbery anything but
- 0:39really the goal was to create a space where I could share some
- 0:44updates and also be able to just great space as well to let you
- 0:51ask your questions because I I get these incredible messages
- 0:55from you on social media, on LinkedIn, through our
- 0:59newsletter. But there's something special
- 1:02about coming together as a group and being able to talk about
- 1:06what's top of mind, especially in that group setting.
- 1:09And you know, I've been in many of these scenarios before too or
- 1:13some of the other participants can can add value as well or
- 1:16even just the willingness to ask the question help someone else
- 1:21who who thought it themselves. I want to kick off by just
- 1:25giving you some exciting updates, some things that have
- 1:28been happening over the last six months or so, few months, I
- 1:31guess less than six, but so topics for tonight, it will be
- 1:38really this like a little bit of my journey, some exciting
- 1:45updates. I don't want to go away too
- 1:46much, but you can see the table of contents and then we'll open
- 1:49it up to questions for my journey.
- 1:53A lot of you probably know me and probably know my story, but
- 1:58I love this visual as just a way to sort of show especially, I
- 2:02guess pretty much my running career and where it has taken
- 2:05me. I never thought when I started
- 2:06running back in high school in San Francisco at Sacred Heart
- 2:10Cathedral, that I would have this long career in life defined
- 2:15by running. And some of the things I am most
- 2:19excited about now are kind of extensions of that running
- 2:22experience. So, you know, becoming a mother
- 2:25for the first time in 2018 and then my son was born in 2022.
- 2:30That has really informed a lot of the work that I've done in in
- 2:35advocating for female athletes and maternal maternity
- 2:39protections and better resources.
- 2:41And I'm going to touch on that in a second.
- 2:43Last year I got it. I worked with NBC for the Paris
- 2:46Olympics and was so honored to be part of that team.
- 2:52And then to find out that our team got an Emmy was like such
- 2:55unexpected icing on the cake. And the biggest news that has
- 3:00come since the summer is my London bronze medal which some
- 3:06of you may know has been reallocated from London 2012.
- 3:12It was confirmed June 26th of 2025.
- 3:15And by like July, August, they agreed like I was able to, to
- 3:22work with US Olympic and Paralympic Committee and Kara
- 3:24Winger, who I love, who is wonderful and confirm with IOC
- 3:29that I would be getting my medal in LA 2028 at the Olympics,
- 3:32which is just the most meaningful kind of silver lining
- 3:37that could come. So other exciting news that I
- 3:41wanted to share. I've been kind of sharing it
- 3:46with my closer circle. And this has been in the works
- 3:49since 2017 when I was pregnant with my daughter Sienna.
- 3:54And I started working with Jessica Dorrington, who you can
- 3:56see in the photo next to me. She's my co-author, but I have a
- 4:00book coming out in February. It's in pre sale and we're going
- 4:04to start kind of spreading the word more like next week.
- 4:07It'll be 3 months out. So we're going to start
- 4:09spreading the news more broadly, but I wanted to give you guys a
- 4:12sneak peek. Strong as a mother.
- 4:14It's your complete pregnancy to postpartum health program.
- 4:19Jess is a pelvic floor and orthopedic certified PT and
- 4:23she's worked with everyone from, you know, first time moms,
- 4:27you're not super active to Olympic medalist and everything
- 4:32in between. Our publisher is Sasquatch
- 4:35Books, which is part of Penguin Random House.
- 4:37You can find more information on my website.
- 4:40But really, the book was designed to be a resource for
- 4:43moms to help them understand what's happening to their body
- 4:46each trimester of pregnancy and sort of empower them with
- 4:51information. And then it also includes
- 4:53exercise programs. These aren't meant to be like,
- 4:57you know, competitive athlete. I'm going to, you know, do crazy
- 5:02Olympic things during pregnancy. Although it can support that,
- 5:05really the goal is foundationally helping you feel
- 5:08strong so that you can support your body as it grows your baby.
- 5:13So strong as a mother coming soon.
- 5:14So excited for that. But if anything, could someone
- 5:21have told about 10 or 11 year old Shannon that would lead them
- 5:24to believe that you might be an Olympian someday?
- 5:28Oh my gosh, yeah. I don't, I don't know if anyone.
- 5:34I think the things about me that people saw early were sure like
- 5:42my work ethic, my attention to detail.
- 5:45I'm an optimistic person. So, you know, even when there's
- 5:50a set back, I love to say like if you I'm going to make if I
- 5:54get lemons, I'm going to make best star in lemonade you've
- 5:56ever tasted. Like that's just the world view
- 5:58that I have a fun, a fun challenge.
- 6:02And this kind of answers your question.
- 6:04If you could describe yourself in three words, what would it
- 6:06be? It's a fun question to ask kids.
- 6:08It's a fun like dinner table game for me.
- 6:11Positive and persistent. We're always who I was.
- 6:15And my third word has kind of evolved from smarter strategic
- 6:21to like Trail Blazers. I've tried to now do things
- 6:23beyond like, like try to like just move the needle a bit in my
- 6:28industry. But I think those, yeah, I think
- 6:32those traits have always been part of who I am.
- 6:37And, and I think that, you know, they were nurtured by an
- 6:43environment at home where the consistent feedback from my
- 6:47parents, especially my mom, was do what you love, work hard,
- 6:51success will find you. And like that encouragement to
- 6:54find my own path. But that expectation of hard
- 6:57work, we're always married. And so there was this like
- 6:59flexibility, but also this expectation of like, you know,
- 7:04you have to do the work to get there.
- 7:06And, and that I think that has enabled me to be successful in a
- 7:11variety of areas because it was just constantly like like that's
- 7:14a, that's a, like a life motto, not necessarily specific to
- 7:17anyone thing. Right.
- 7:19And and then the third part was who, who was the first one to
- 7:21really speak to you about the potential that you had as a
- 7:26runner and, and what did that feel like when you heard that?
- 7:28Did you believe it? I think I still have a hard time
- 7:32believing that I've done what I've done, but I think that's
- 7:35also part of that like perfectionism or that like sort
- 7:38of like you just keep pushing forward.
- 7:41You know, my, I think my high school coach, he had been a
- 7:47manager for UCLA under, you know, kind of in the, I guess it
- 7:50would have been like the 90s who had some export exposure to some
- 7:54incredible athletes. I don't think that he expected
- 7:57necessarily I'd be an Olympian, but I did by my junior senior
- 8:01year go to the Olympic training center as one of the athletes in
- 8:05the kind of like Junior Olympic develop.
- 8:07I forget exactly what it was called, but like a development
- 8:09program. And so I got to go down to Chula
- 8:12Vista and be exposed to some coaches there.
- 8:14I think he definitely knew that collegiate running was in my
- 8:17future. And I think it was my collegiate
- 8:20coach, Kevin Germaine, who Kate and I worked with at Duke and
- 8:23who's now back as the coach there.
- 8:25He had had a pro career right before starting to coach.
- 8:29He worked with Gags Gagliano in Georgetown, And I think it was
- 8:38him that as I got further along and just continued to develop
- 8:42that he could sort of see that potential of like getting to the
- 8:45next level. But I think it's like, important
- 8:48to, you know, maybe have a dream of what's possible, but then
- 8:50really hone in on being the best at the level you're at.
- 8:54So for me, that always was. I was like, could I be the best
- 8:56on my team? How about the league, the
- 8:58section, the state, the nation? And then do it again in college.
- 9:03And like, can you just keep chipping away?
- 9:04Because the only way to be an Olympian is to get to the best
- 9:07at each of those levels. And so I think, you know, having
- 9:11an idea of like where you want to go, but then really focusing
- 9:14on that process so that you can have these like kind of carrots
- 9:17to achieve on along the way keeps it like a little bit more
- 9:20manageable. For me, that was important.
- 9:23Yeah, yeah. So I said it was three-part, but
- 9:26here's a little follow up on one.
- 9:27How do you how do you reconcile being a perfectionist and an
- 9:32optimist? Yeah, I, that's a great
- 9:40question. Yeah, I don't know if I do
- 9:43fully, but I think a lot of the, you know, I think that optimism
- 9:51and probably the perfectionism is like as a voice that sort of
- 9:54develops in you through the environment you're in.
- 9:57Like I definitely have a perfectionist mother, but I also
- 10:01had that mother who said like, you know, do what you love.
- 10:06And and when things would go wrong or, you know, I wouldn't
- 10:09get the outcome I wanted, she and my dad and my grandma and my
- 10:13coaches, like the voices in my head were like, like, it's just
- 10:18one race, like it's just another.
- 10:20It's just, you know, yes, that's disappointing for today, but
- 10:23that doesn't define you. Like that message was reinforced
- 10:26to me. And I think for a perfectionist
- 10:28understanding that we are sometimes our own worst enemies
- 10:32and really ensuring that as that person around them, you know,
- 10:36sure. Like like I knew they knew I was
- 10:40disappointed. It wasn't like they didn't they
- 10:42weren't flip flipping about it. And we all acknowledged that,
- 10:45like that wasn't the outcome we wanted, but but at the end of
- 10:48the day, my value as a person was never defined by that.
- 10:51And so I think that that like, you know, if I had to like kind
- 10:55of try to answer that question, my initial thought would be just
- 10:59that like that perfectionism, perfectionism and optimism were
- 11:03sort of like built into me through that, in like, through
- 11:06that kind of core environment around me.
- 11:10And, and helped me like, like kind of manage that balance.
- 11:16And it was an essential balance to like survive in, in an
- 11:20industry like track and field for so long where the field
- 11:23isn't always there, unfortunately.
- 11:26But like, but if you love to just like continue to chip away
- 11:30at improvement, it's it's, it's perfect for that kind of
- 11:33personality. So we also got a question from
- 11:43Brett ahead of this live chat session.
- 11:48So what's the most memorable race day of your career and what
- 11:54did you learn from it? Oh gosh, feel like any of those
- 11:59races where you're trying to jump to the next level are
- 12:04really scary and exciting because you believe you might be
- 12:08able to, but you haven't proved it yet.
- 12:11And the one I the one that comes to mind first is 2008 Olympic
- 12:16trials. I had been injured the year
- 12:19before, so 2007. I have a got a stress fracture
- 12:24in my left femoral neck, had to miss my senior season of track
- 12:29and field at Duke. And I was one year out from the
- 12:32Olympic trials and really committed to that process of
- 12:36like recovering, figuring out why I got injured, doing the
- 12:40work. And by the time I came to the
- 12:41Olympic trials, I'd actually had like a phenomenal comeback, had
- 12:45the top time for an American, was running really well.
- 12:49And so I felt going into the trials like this could be a
- 12:53reality, this dream of being Olympian like that actually
- 12:56could happen. But I remember sitting in the
- 13:00bus from the hotel to the track, like just so nervous because I
- 13:07didn't know what to expect. And it was also new and I was so
- 13:10excited by the potential, but like terrified that maybe, you
- 13:14know, maybe I, you know, could I do it?
- 13:17Like could I actually do it? I remember just in that race, I
- 13:23would say for me, the, the, the hardest part is like the lead
- 13:27up, the final hours leading up to the warm up, because once the
- 13:31warm up starts, I have a task to achieve.
- 13:34It's your job, 20 minutes, do the dynamic flexibility, do the
- 13:37strides. All those things go to the call
- 13:40room and I had a process, but that bus right over was so nerve
- 13:45racking. Ultimately, I still love the
- 13:48quote. Get well warmed up and let the
- 13:50gun release you like that Chariots of Quiet Fire quote.
- 13:53And so for me, you know, once I got to the starting line and it
- 13:57was like, OK, just give it everything you have.
- 14:00And that race, you know, fortunately turned out really
- 14:02well. I won by a large margin.
- 14:04I made my first Olympic team. And that sort of was the
- 14:06transition into the start of my kind of like I would say really
- 14:11like my entree into my pro running career.
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