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UK Column News - 27th June 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the twenty seventh of June twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, just after one o'clock. Welcome to uk Colm News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Rumson, and my co host and
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Speaker 1: studio today is Patrick Hennison. Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: Mike, and journalist Mark Anderson joins us by video link
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Speaker 1: from the United States. Now later in the program, Patrick's
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Speaker 1: going to be covering Gaza. Mark will be looking at
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Speaker 1: support or otherwise from the people of the United States
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Speaker 1: for Trump's Iran policy, and I'm looking at high Offcom
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Speaker 1: intends to flee the social media companies in order to
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Speaker 1: finance its censorship regime. But we'll begin today with the
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Speaker 1: news that the British regime is deeply happy that Operation Interflects.
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Speaker 1: The training regime, which prepares Ukrainians for death, has passed
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Speaker 1: its three year anniversary yesterday. More than fifty six thousand
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian soldiers have been trained by the UK and thirteen
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Speaker 1: partner nations, which a supposed is a drop in the
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Speaker 1: ocean compared to the number of Ukrainian casualties, I'll admit,
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Speaker 1: but when we take into account that Operation Interflex focuses
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Speaker 1: on equipping trainees with battlefield essentials such as basic infantry course,
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Speaker 1: leadership training, and instructor courses. In fact, the devastating effect
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Speaker 1: of this training is probably much wider once the graduates
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Speaker 1: returned to Ukraine. Patrick, But at a recent meeting of
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Speaker 1: the Ukraine Defense Contact Group on the fourth of June,
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Speaker 1: Secretary of State for War John Healy announced that the
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Speaker 1: UK will spend a further two hundred and forty seven
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Speaker 1: million pounds this year on training the armed forces of Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: But don't worry. Recent polling did It shows that ninety
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Speaker 1: percent of all the trainees who've completed Interflex training since
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Speaker 1: January twenty twenty five feel more confident in their lethality
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Speaker 1: and survivability at the end of training. Patrick, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what your thoughts are on that, but that is
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Speaker 1: a pretty disgusting comment.
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Speaker 2: I thought, well, ninety percent of who how many of
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Speaker 2: was the survival rate of Interflex right in the field.
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Speaker 1: They don't get told the statistic.
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Speaker 2: That's the stat I want is that ninety percent of
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Speaker 2: those who've survived.
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Speaker 1: No, that's just ninety percent if you completed the training
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Speaker 1: before they go onto the battlefield.
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Speaker 2: Interflex sounds more like a club in soho, but we'll
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Speaker 2: get onto that later on.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but anyway, Minister for the Armed Forces Look Pollard
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Speaker 1: MP said, from each Ukrainian soldier made compound ready on
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Speaker 1: the UK soil to the thirteen billion pounds committed in
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Speaker 1: military support, We're proud of every element of our contribution
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Speaker 1: to Ukraine's fight against Russia's illegal invasion. Must be very proud.
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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, the UK is going to boost
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Speaker 1: Ukraine's air defense with three hundred and fifty missiles using
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Speaker 1: funds seized from Russian assets. And this is they say,
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Speaker 1: going to help protect Ukrainians from Putin's attacks. So these
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Speaker 1: are as RAM missiles which are going to be fired
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Speaker 1: using the Riven Grind based air defense system supplied by
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Speaker 1: the UK to Ukraine, with five more Rivens due for
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Speaker 1: delivery very soon, and that brings the total to thirteen.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps a useful number for them there, but anyway, Initially
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Speaker 1: this was used as air to air missiles fired from
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Speaker 1: fighter jets, but RAF engineers have adapted these missiles in
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Speaker 1: just three months to be launched from the back of
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Speaker 1: a UK designed and built truck similar to vaccines is
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Speaker 1: simply able to redesigned these things very quickly. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: working with a British defense industry team from a MBDAUK
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Speaker 1: in Bolton. Now, let's just have a brief look at
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Speaker 1: the Ministry of Defense promo video for Riven, or at
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Speaker 1: least part of it.
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. My name is Oli Todd from Taskworth Kindred
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Speaker 3: and I'd like to introduce you to the Raven Air
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Speaker 3: Defense System. This is an air defense system which was
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Speaker 3: generated in twenty twenty two. We went from concept to
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Speaker 3: delivery of a capability within three months. It's an amazing
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Speaker 3: system which combines the HMT six hundred Pokat vehicle with
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Speaker 3: an advanced short range air to air missile, the Azram missile,
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Speaker 3: which has turned it into one of the most effective
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Speaker 3: short range air defense systems in use in Ukraine at
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Speaker 3: the moment. The system is built upon a HMT six hundred,
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Speaker 3: which is a high mobility six by six all terrain
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Speaker 3: vehicle with a bespoke mount built on it to fit
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Speaker 3: two Azram missiles which sit on rails that we have
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Speaker 3: taken from older and out of service Hawk, Jaguar and
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Speaker 3: Tornado aircraft. The system can be deployed very quickly. The
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Speaker 3: missiles can be moved in put position and can engage
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Speaker 3: targets as required as quickly as possible. The system can
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Speaker 3: be operated from both inside the cab as well as
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Speaker 3: remoted to up to fifty meters away from the vehicle,
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Speaker 3: giving great flexibility for the operator whether they want to
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Speaker 3: be in the vehicle or away from it. System uses
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Speaker 3: a GamePad type controller so that they can identify track
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Speaker 3: and then switch from the seeker on the roof of
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Speaker 3: the vehicle to the secret onto the missile, allowing it
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Speaker 3: to engage quickly. The operator can then switch to a
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Speaker 3: secondary target and engage that as required. So far, we've
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Speaker 3: sent over four hundred missiles to Ukraine and they've conducted
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Speaker 3: over four hundred engagements, which we understand with a success
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Speaker 3: rate of over seventy percent. It's been very effective against drones,
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Speaker 3: cruise missiles and could also engage aircraft in helicopters.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick will a joke, because you know on
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Speaker 1: many levels it's a joke. So they've taken obsolete equipment
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Speaker 1: from fighter jets that aren't flying anymore and effectively sent
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Speaker 1: it over to Ukraine to get rid of it. So
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Speaker 1: we can buy some new stuff for ourselves. Is that
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Speaker 1: what's going on there?
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Speaker 2: Seventy percent success rate, So this is probably the best
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Speaker 2: system in the entire world according to those numbers.
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Speaker 1: Well, is it? Because in a speech a few days ago,
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Speaker 1: Vladimir put In the ninst that Russia will quote will
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Speaker 1: focus in particular on the nuclear triad. The strategic missile
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Speaker 1: forces will we equipped with the lidus R systems, and
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Speaker 1: the aviation component of the strategic nuclear forces will be
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Speaker 1: reinforced with upgraded to U one sixty M missile carriers
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Speaker 1: this year. These are not grind based. In addition, he said,
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Speaker 1: serial production of the state of the art medium range
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Speaker 1: missile O REGNIC is underway. It has demonstrated outstanding performance
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Speaker 1: in combat situations. So look, let's just remind ourselves what
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Speaker 1: a REGNIC looks like, because that silly little system that
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Speaker 1: we are sending over Ukraine isn't going to deal with this,
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Speaker 1: is it.
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Speaker 2: No? It Neither is the Iron Dome or the THAD
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Speaker 2: or the Arrow two or Larry David's sling. None of
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Speaker 2: that is effective against that level of hypersonic missile. What
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Speaker 2: is effective, Mike, is I know this is going to
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Speaker 2: sound crazy, diplomacy. Diplomacy is actually probably the best defense.
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Speaker 2: But nobody wants to be called nevill Chamberlain. Do they
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Speaker 2: no appeaser? Appeaser as as Europe they don't.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, it will be coming on to missile defense
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Speaker 1: again in a second, but I just wanted to continue
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Speaker 1: with this article from a couple of days ago by
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Speaker 1: Hamish to Breton Gordon, the British Deep States regular mouth
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Speaker 1: piece Hemish to Breton Gordon. So he published this article
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Speaker 1: in the Telegraph, and in it he made clear who
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Speaker 1: he thinks the real target of the recent US bunker
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Speaker 1: bucker buster bomb attack on Iran really is, and that's
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Speaker 1: he says, Russia. Of course, I'm just going to take
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Speaker 1: a couple of quotes from this because it is quite incredible.
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Speaker 1: So he said that Operation Midnight Hammer an incredible demonstration
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Speaker 1: of US military power and is really operations before it
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Speaker 1: have made plain the fragility of Russia air defense systems.
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Speaker 1: Putin will be quaking in his boots today Iran Israel
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Speaker 1: has shown he is vulnerable. These events will be shaking
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Speaker 1: the very foundations of the Russian military. How does that work?
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Speaker 2: We'll look at this picture of hey, mister Britain. Gordon
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Speaker 2: bring that up on screen. I think it's more like
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Speaker 2: hammered by midnight. Mike, yes, absolutely well.
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Speaker 1: Look, he went on to say this, the Russian dictator
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Speaker 1: and his adversaries must now have realized that their defenses
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Speaker 1: could easily be suppressed if the Ukrainians or other opponents
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Speaker 1: such as NATO had the right tools. Their comprehensive US
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Speaker 1: and NATO intelligence networks that we've seen in Iran, which
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Speaker 1: even allow them to pinpoint and assassinate key leaders in
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Speaker 1: nuclear scientists almost will will have terrified the Kremlin hierarchy.
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Speaker 1: The more so as Ukraine appears to have similar similar
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Speaker 1: reach inside Russia. Operation Spider's Web, in which russia strategic
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Speaker 1: air fleet was decimated several times, over stands as testament
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Speaker 1: to their effectiveness, and he went on to say it
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Speaker 1: is not even clearer that America has total overmatch against
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Speaker 1: Russia's forces, and if Trump he chose to, he could
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Speaker 1: inflict battlefield defeat on Putting or eliminated them personally by
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Speaker 1: equipping Ukraine with the same weapons that Israel has. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this seems to me to be really illusional stuff, particularly
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Speaker 1: in light of Erashnik and another advanced weaponry that Russia
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Speaker 1: hasn't even brought onto the battlefield yet.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's this warmongering, hawkish rhetoric that we need to
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Speaker 2: take out the other countries head of state, take out
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Speaker 2: all their political leaders, Israeli style, and somehow that's going
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Speaker 2: to scare the Russians. Know what that's going to do
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Speaker 2: is get us into World War III, Because if Russia
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Speaker 2: or any other nuclear armed state believes they're existentially at threat,
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Speaker 2: who knows they might engage in a preemptive nucletar strike.
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Speaker 2: If this is the way warfare is going to go,
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Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk to each other. They think that, oh,
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Speaker 2: it can only be settled by lethal force dealing with
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Speaker 2: nuclear powers.
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Speaker 1: Here, Yes, and we seem to be doing our best
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Speaker 1: to convince them that they have no other alternative.
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Speaker 2: That's the rhetoric we're hearing. It's completely insane, and it's
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Speaker 2: going to bring I think it's going to bring death
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Speaker 2: and destruction on a scale never seen before in the
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Speaker 2: human race. But is that what these people want or
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Speaker 2: are they just talking tough and then coining in the
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Speaker 2: money on their European defense stock portfolios and they really
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Speaker 2: don't care or they're so deluded and detached that they
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Speaker 2: don't think that that will ever happen, and they can
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Speaker 2: just carry on assassinating leaders.
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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's hard to know what to say about it.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, on Wednesday, we were briefly talking about the summit,
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Speaker 1: which of course was shortened because Trump wanted to shorten apparently.
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Speaker 4: But.
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Speaker 2: Daddy wanted a shorter.
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Speaker 1: Pres Yes, but you've got more on that and not
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Speaker 1: for us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well here's the conference here, Mike. I mean you
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Speaker 2: just take a look at it, big production. Obviously, they
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Speaker 2: want to impressed Donald, so they pulled out all the
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Speaker 2: stops on the event there. But you can see some
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Speaker 2: usual suspects here zooming in on Emmanuel Macron. He and
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Speaker 2: then Mehdi Frederickson there too, warmongering Eurocrats, and there's Kree
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Speaker 2: Starmer British Prime minister as well. So all the alpha
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Speaker 2: dogs are out in force. As you can see, There's
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Speaker 2: there's Daddy Mark Rute's sugar Daddy, Donald Trump and all
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Speaker 2: the rest of the nondescript European politicians. I don't know
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Speaker 2: half of them are. There will be some few familiar faces, Mike,
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Speaker 2: but but basically the whole focus was around Trump, you
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Speaker 2: could see, and it was also around money, spending money,
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Speaker 2: and as we said, a lot of talk, a lot
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Speaker 2: of excitement in the stock market for European defense contractors,
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Speaker 2: and I think that's what it's really about. But the big,
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Speaker 2: the big show stopper, of course, at least from where
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Speaker 2: as far as we're concerned, was Zelenski. And we'll bring
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Speaker 2: this up here. Vladimir Zelenski was basically Vladimir Lensky was
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Speaker 2: basically unveiling This is a big signal here. This is
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Speaker 2: a big signal. He is wearing a jacket for the
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Speaker 2: first time in three years. Zelenski is wearing a jacket
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Speaker 2: and no green T shirt. There's a collar on that yet,
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Speaker 2: you see that, right. We'll check the shoes in a moment.
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Speaker 2: This is a signal he's wearing still got the high
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Speaker 2: tech boots, but he's basically signaling is the war over?
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Speaker 2: Are we in a frozen conflict? Because Zelenski's wearing a blazer,
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Speaker 2: that to me is a huge story here. So he's
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Speaker 2: not wearing a T shirt for the first time in
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Speaker 2: three years, so he's also not the center of attention.
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Speaker 2: Mike is Trump is clear the center of attention. So
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Speaker 2: Zelenski has accepted his role here as second fiddle. But
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Speaker 2: we'll put that aside for the moment. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: kidding about the symbolism that means. He's not a wartime president,
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Speaker 2: even though he's unelected. Anyway, he's probably on the way out,
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Speaker 2: I would think fairly soon, but we'll see. But Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump basically took the opportunity to chastise everybody in the
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Speaker 2: world about what he did or didn't do vis a Iran.
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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about the implications of this. Listen to this.
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Speaker 4: I just want to thank our pilots.
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Speaker 5: You know, they were maligned and treated very bad, demeaned
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Speaker 5: by fake news CNN, which is back there.
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Speaker 4: Believe it in a wasting time, wasting it.
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Speaker 5: Nobody's watching them, so they're just wasting a lot of time.
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Speaker 4: Wasting my time.
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Speaker 5: And the New York Times they put out a story that, well,
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Speaker 5: maybe they were hit, but it wasn't bad.
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Speaker 4: Well, it was so bad that they ended the war.
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Speaker 5: It ended the war, somebody said, in a certain way,
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Speaker 5: you know that it was so devastating.
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Speaker 4: Actually, if you look at Hiroshimo, if.
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Speaker 5: You look at Nagasaki, you know that ended a war too.
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Speaker 5: This ended a war in a different way, but it
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Speaker 5: was so devastating. What bothered me about these reports with
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Speaker 5: fake reports put out by the New York Times failing.
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Speaker 5: I got the failing New York Times because it's doing
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Speaker 5: terribly Without me, it would be doing.
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Speaker 4: No business at all.
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Speaker 5: But and by fake news CNN and MSDNC, all of
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Speaker 5: these terrible people.
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Speaker 4: You know, they have no credibility.
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Speaker 5: You know, when I started, they were ninety four percent
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Speaker 5: credibility the media. Now it's at sixteen percent, and I'm
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Speaker 5: very proud of it because I've exposed it for what
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Speaker 5: it is.
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Speaker 2: But when Donald Trump started, his credibility was, you know, marginal,
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Speaker 2: and now it's fallen straight through the floor. So I
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Speaker 2: don't know who he is. Just on I want to
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Speaker 2: get your comment on his comparison to Iroshima Nagasaki. But
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Speaker 2: it's one thing to talk about the fake news with CNN,
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Speaker 2: New York Times, that whole shtick, and a lot of
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Speaker 2: people got behind that because he was an insurgent candidate,
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Speaker 2: he was a rebel, he was a disruptor. He's just
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Speaker 2: launched an illegal, undeclared war of aggression on fake WMD
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Speaker 2: supposed evidence, So the whole fake news shtick doesn't actually work.
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Speaker 2: And that's the problem with Trump. He doesn't have any awareness.
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Speaker 2: He's not able to read the room and unfortunately surrounded
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Speaker 2: by Eurocyco fans, so there's not much we can do
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Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what fascinated bit about that comment with
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Speaker 1: respect to Hiroshima and Nagasaki was that it echoes what
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Speaker 1: hemihe to Bretton Gordon was saying. He was basically saying, well,
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Speaker 1: Trump dropped these bunker buster bombs and it was there
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Speaker 1: as a signal to Putin. The Putin should be very scared.
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Speaker 1: If we look at Tarashima and Nagasaki, the war was over,
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Speaker 1: there was no need to do that. That was a
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Speaker 1: signal again to Russia at that time about what the
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Speaker 1: US capability was. And so I'm fascinated that that Trump
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Speaker 1: is basically echoing what is effectively the British deep state
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Speaker 1: mouthpiece in the language that he's using as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just completely over the top. And he the
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Speaker 2: megalomania is comparing what he did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki
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Speaker 2: as if it's even on remotely on the same scale.
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Speaker 2: But they're just constantly pumping themselves up or a pilots
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Speaker 2: or did this, our pilots did that, and so forth.
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Speaker 2: It's it's kind of it's sad, quite frankly, and it's
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Speaker 2: not impressive at all. In fact, it makes Trump look weak.
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Speaker 2: And of course we know that Trump has been taking
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Speaker 2: orders from Benjamin net Yahoo, an American president subservient to
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Speaker 2: a leader who's indicted in the International Criminal Court for
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Speaker 2: war crimes and who's lording over the size of a
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Speaker 2: country size of New Jersey that is basically falling to pieces.
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Speaker 2: That's how strong Donald Trump is. But here's his Defense Secretary,
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Speaker 2: Pete hegg Seth, the most underqualified cabinet member in the
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Speaker 2: history of the United States. Fox and Friends weekend host
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Speaker 2: suddenly becomes Defense Secretary. It's a Horatio Alger story for
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Speaker 2: rags to riches for the generations. But here's hag Seth again,
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Speaker 2: attacking the media and basically pooh pooing any accusations that
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Speaker 2: they didn't completely obliterate Iran's nuclear facilities.
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Speaker 1: And for a tactical reason with President.
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Speaker 6: Hello, mister secretary, there's a reason the President calls out
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Speaker 6: fake news for what it is. These pilots, these refuelers,
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Speaker 6: these fighters, these air defenders. The skill and the courage
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Speaker 6: it took to go into enemy territory flying thirty six
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Speaker 6: hours on behalf of the American people in the world
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Speaker 6: to take out a nuclear program is beyond what anyone
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Speaker 6: in this audience can fathom.
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Speaker 1: And then the.
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Speaker 7: Instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of the New
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Speaker 7: York Times, is to try to find a way to
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Speaker 7: spin it for their own political reasons, to try to
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Speaker 7: hurt President Trump or our country. They don't care what
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Speaker 7: the troops think, they don't care what the world thinks.
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Speaker 7: They want to spin it to try to make him
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Speaker 7: look bad based on a leak. Of course, we've all
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Speaker 7: seen plenty of leakers, and what a leakers do?
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Speaker 8: They have agendas and what do they do?
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Speaker 6: Do they share the whole information or just the part
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Speaker 6: that they want to introduce? And when they introduce that
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Speaker 6: preliminary a preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment,
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Speaker 6: you know what a low assessment means? Low confidence in
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Speaker 6: the data in that report. And why is there low
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Speaker 6: confidence Because all of the evidence of what was just
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Speaker 6: bombed by twelve thirty thousand pound bombs is buried under
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Speaker 6: a Mountain.
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Speaker 4: Devastated and obliterated.
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Speaker 6: So if you want to make an assessment of what
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Speaker 6: happened at four doh, you better get a big shovel
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Speaker 6: and go really deep, because Iran's nuclear program is obliterated,
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Speaker 6: and somebody somewhere is trying to leak something to say, Oh,
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Speaker 6: with low.
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Speaker 7: Confidence, we think maybe it's moderate. Those that drop the
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Speaker 7: bombs precisely in.
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Speaker 6: The right place know exactly what happened when that exploded,
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Speaker 6: and you know who else knows. Iran that's why they
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Speaker 6: came to the table right away, because their nuclear capabilities
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Speaker 6: have been set back beyond what they thought were possible.
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Speaker 2: So Pete hegsas saying, trust me, bro, trust me, bro,
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Speaker 2: trust me. I'm going to tell you the truth. We
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Speaker 2: don't have anyone on the ground, but trust us. Trump
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Speaker 2: said that Israel put agents on the ground to go
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Speaker 2: and inspect the damage afterwards in Iran, completely insane. He
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Speaker 2: completely made that up, So they don't really have the
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Speaker 2: credibility there. Pete Heiss trying way too hard. I don't
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Speaker 2: know what the old Shakespeare saying is, Uh doth protest
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Speaker 2: too much? He doth protest too much, way too much,
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Speaker 2: Trying way too hard to make his case. Mike, it's
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Speaker 2: almost like that this is like it's like North Korea
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Speaker 2: level kind of politics. Not to knock Kim Jong un
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Speaker 2: because he's looking pretty good right now compared to this
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Speaker 2: clown show. But just this whole the fact they have Trump, Hegseth,
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Speaker 2: and Rubio standing there, it means that neither of those
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Speaker 2: people have the gravitas to hold the stage by themselves.
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Speaker 2: They need this show of force. Again, completely weak, and
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Speaker 2: it just shows you a lack of character in gravitas.
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Speaker 2: And then sitting there and basically over explain this thing
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Speaker 2: for two to three minutes, it's embarrassing.
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Speaker 4: Mic.
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Speaker 2: But on that front, I think we'll see what information
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Speaker 2: comes out. We shall see, because I'll bet you it's
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Speaker 2: very different the real story than what they're trying to
20:15
Speaker 2: sell here.
20:16
Speaker 1: Okay, So that takes us on to European weapons.
20:20
Speaker 2: Well, this is the main part of this conference, Mic,
20:23
Speaker 2: was to drum up pressure and support by the United
20:26
Speaker 2: States to get Europe to pay its fair share to
20:29
Speaker 2: pay for its defense. Well, here's one of many reports here,
20:33
Speaker 2: this one by Politico. US dominates European weapons purchases. So
20:38
Speaker 2: what Trump is doing is getting them to spend five
20:40
Speaker 2: percent of GDP and spend it with Uncle Sam or
20:45
Speaker 2: most of it. And how much are we talking about
20:48
Speaker 2: in terms of percentages here? Let's take a look at
20:51
Speaker 2: some of the numbers. So Trump is basically panhandling for
20:54
Speaker 2: the United States military industrial complex. Let's take a look
20:58
Speaker 2: at the numbers though. This is according to the Stockholm
21:01
Speaker 2: Institute for Peace and look at this, Mike, It's not
21:05
Speaker 2: even close. The United States towers over every other country
21:11
Speaker 2: in terms of arms exports to Europe. Look at that.
21:16
Speaker 2: These are recent numbers, by the way, and this is
21:18
Speaker 2: only expected to increase the US share. So there are
21:22
Speaker 2: other people in there doing work and supplying things. But
21:25
Speaker 2: you can just see the five percent GDP spend. That's
21:30
Speaker 2: a huge payday, a huge payday for the Americans. So
21:33
Speaker 2: what are we looking at here? Turkey backs NATO's five
21:36
Speaker 2: percent defense goal here planning a nationwide air shield, an
21:41
Speaker 2: air shield. Turkey's planning to prioritize its steal Dome project,
21:45
Speaker 2: so not to be outdone by the Iron Dome in Israel,
21:48
Speaker 2: Erdawan wants to steal dom. What are we looking at here?
21:51
Speaker 2: Every country is saying the same thing. Golden Dome, Iron
21:53
Speaker 2: dome steal dome. We're looking at an arms race. That's
21:57
Speaker 2: exactly what we're looking at here. Take a look at
22:00
Speaker 2: the coercion and bring this up on screen. Trump says
22:03
Speaker 2: Spain will pay more in trade after the refusal to
22:07
Speaker 2: meet NATO's defense spending target. So NATO is determining what
22:11
Speaker 2: governments spend and if you don't comply, Trump will hit
22:16
Speaker 2: you with punitive tariffs. This is outrageous. Everyone in Brussels
22:20
Speaker 2: should be railing against this. This is the United States
22:23
Speaker 2: imposing budgetary spending. As we said before, NATO is directing
22:28
Speaker 2: European economic and political affairs. Here, and we'll bring on
22:33
Speaker 2: screen here this is a professor Carlo Massala from the
22:36
Speaker 2: Bundesvir University. Here. Look at what he says. All the
22:41
Speaker 2: Europeans are looking at the US like the rabbit looks
22:45
Speaker 2: at the snake, hoping that the snake won't bite them.
22:49
Speaker 2: This is the German Defense University as well. So that's
22:54
Speaker 2: the attitude there. And again this is echoed here another
22:58
Speaker 2: influential think tan. This is a guntraum Wolf from the
23:02
Speaker 2: Brugal think Tank Economic think tank in Brussels. This is
23:06
Speaker 2: what he says about the five percent, they will not
23:08
Speaker 2: get there. If you are a highly indebted country, you
23:12
Speaker 2: can't issue more debt. It means very difficult budgetary choices.
23:17
Speaker 2: So that's what some of the experts in Brussels are saying.
23:20
Speaker 2: But let's just look at the methodology behind this. This
23:23
Speaker 2: is the defense reality. Okay, a lot of talk, but
23:27
Speaker 2: let's look at the reality. In the EU. Y countries
23:30
Speaker 2: will not meet. They're five percent spending. And here's the
23:33
Speaker 2: first one. The EU zero percent GDP growth projections and
23:39
Speaker 2: a recession, so that's five percent of a smaller GDP.
23:43
Speaker 2: And we'll go here. State budget constraints require new laws,
23:47
Speaker 2: so in some cases there might be constitutional amendments required
23:51
Speaker 2: for this as well. And the deficit spending is hurting
23:54
Speaker 2: EU states credit ratings. And we'll go on government forces.
24:00
Speaker 2: They're forced to bring in austerity measures as a result
24:03
Speaker 2: of this, in privatization, more cuts in public and social services.
24:10
Speaker 2: So that's what it looks like, and voter backlash it's coming.
24:14
Speaker 2: And they're not interested in a war with Russia. So
24:17
Speaker 2: that's the reality of defense spending here. And just to
24:20
Speaker 2: round this discussion off, Germany is asking the United States
24:24
Speaker 2: for europe Truth with troop withdrawal map. This is the
24:29
Speaker 2: German Defense Minister here saying HEADSEC and the US counterparts
24:33
Speaker 2: are pushing to provide a roadmap for a US pullback
24:38
Speaker 2: from Europe, but the French are saying something different, and
24:42
Speaker 2: unnamed French diplomat talking to the Financial Times, we must
24:46
Speaker 2: do nothing that would encourage the Americans to leave, because
24:49
Speaker 2: that's not in our interest. Okay, And then I think
24:53
Speaker 2: the Financial Times is kind of taking the mickey on
24:56
Speaker 2: the Germans. Here Germany floats return to conscription if volunteer
25:00
Speaker 2: plans failed. They want eighty thousand volunteers in the next
25:03
Speaker 2: ten years. And they threw up a photo here of
25:05
Speaker 2: literal pensioners in suits. It's almost like an inside joke.
25:09
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's what's intended.
25:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, not sure. Anyway, Well, look on Wednesday, let's change
25:15
Speaker 1: topics completely and come back to the UK, because Wednesday
25:18
Speaker 1: I was talking about the UKFCDO spending that's a foreign call,
25:23
Speaker 1: Wealth and Development Office and the amount of money that
25:25
Speaker 1: they were spending on GAVY and other vaccine initiatives. And
25:30
Speaker 1: if you remember, we were looking at the top three
25:32
Speaker 1: recipients in the area. In this sort of policy area
25:35
Speaker 1: of Global Fund of Fight AGS and TB a billion,
25:37
Speaker 1: Gavey a billion and three hundred and fifty million to
25:40
Speaker 1: the iff IM, which effectively is to Gavey as well well.
25:45
Speaker 1: No sooner had that report gone out than the Foreign
25:48
Speaker 1: Office announced a further one point twenty five billion going
25:51
Speaker 1: to gavey in. This announcement was made by David Lammy
25:54
Speaker 1: at GAVI's global summit in Brussels. Now, this, they say
25:57
Speaker 1: extends a close twenty five year partnership which has helped
26:00
Speaker 1: to vaccinate over one billion children globally against diseases like meningetis,
26:05
Speaker 1: to prevent more than eighteen million lives being lost and
26:08
Speaker 1: to improve countries economic prospects. And they claim that the
26:11
Speaker 1: pledge will help GAVE in their mission to protect up
26:14
Speaker 1: to five hundred million children between twenty twenty six and
26:17
Speaker 1: twenty thirty and save up to eight eight million more lives.
26:20
Speaker 1: This is the same kind of numbers that we've heard
26:22
Speaker 1: many many times over the last number of years. But
26:25
Speaker 1: then we get to the reality because it's actually all
26:28
Speaker 1: for fun and profit. With the claim of fourteen thousand
26:31
Speaker 1: jobs supported through the partnership with health companies like GSK
26:34
Speaker 1: in the UK, and even better, they say, gave helps
26:38
Speaker 1: strength in the UK's health security by preventing the spread
26:40
Speaker 1: of dangerous infectious diseases before they reach our borders, and
26:44
Speaker 1: this reduces pressures on our hospitals and health workers, enabling
26:48
Speaker 1: an NHS fit to the future, fit for the future.
26:51
Speaker 1: So it's all good news. But Mark, let me welcome
26:54
Speaker 1: you to the program and tell us in a related
26:58
Speaker 1: topic about the Vaccine Integrity Project.
27:03
Speaker 4: Good day, gentlemen.
27:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've heard about integrity projects before on UK column.
27:08
Speaker 9: Here we have in a very liberal state in terms
27:10
Speaker 9: of the state government, the state of Minnesota, what is
27:14
Speaker 9: known as sid RAP, and they're launching the Vaccine Integrity
27:19
Speaker 9: Project out of the University of Minnesota. As noted, and
27:23
Speaker 9: what appears to be happening is there's a kind of
27:28
Speaker 9: a coalition of physicians and big pharma apparatics that are
27:34
Speaker 9: concerned about the way that the CDC is being run
27:38
Speaker 9: under RFK Junior. And as it shows here, let's put
27:42
Speaker 9: this one up. This explains it very succinctly. Children's Health
27:46
Speaker 9: Defense came out talking about this SIDRAP group and what
27:51
Speaker 9: it's doing to challenge the vaccine approval process and what
27:56
Speaker 9: Children's Health Defense put out was this pharma friendly public
28:00
Speaker 9: health officials launched new project to shore up US vaccination policy.
28:06
Speaker 9: The Vaccine Integrity Project may launch a committee that will
28:09
Speaker 9: evaluate the scientific evidence supporting individual vaccines. But this task
28:14
Speaker 9: get this is currently performed by the Centers for Disease
28:17
Speaker 9: Control and Preventions Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. The Children's
28:23
Speaker 9: Health Defense believes this is a move to usurp that
28:27
Speaker 9: advisory committee, probably somewhat of a medium to long term
28:31
Speaker 9: project as I understand it so far, my report today
28:34
Speaker 9: is preliminary. We're looking at this in terms of being
28:39
Speaker 9: aware of what might be coming down the road later,
28:41
Speaker 9: rather than waiting till it's too late. But this shows
28:44
Speaker 9: in this next slide doctor Michael Osterholm, a Regent's professor
28:49
Speaker 9: and director of SIDRAP, and he said this this project
28:53
Speaker 9: acknowledges the unfortunate reality. He says, the system that we've
28:57
Speaker 9: relied on to make vaccine recommendations and to review safety
29:01
Speaker 9: and effectiveness data faces threats. So the battle lines, you
29:07
Speaker 9: might say, are being drawn. The Children's Self Defense wants
29:11
Speaker 9: to see the standard advisory committee that's part of the
29:15
Speaker 9: governmental infrastructure stay in place under RFK. They believe this
29:20
Speaker 9: group is trying to usurp that, so we'll see what happens,
29:23
Speaker 9: but it appears to be so far Big Pharma trying
29:26
Speaker 9: to stir the pot and mitigate against whatever controls the
29:30
Speaker 9: government might be exercising that would push Big Pharma back
29:34
Speaker 9: on its heels. Of course, RFK Junior made some recent
29:38
Speaker 9: changes to that advisory committee and got rid of a
29:41
Speaker 9: lot of people on there that he thought evidently were
29:44
Speaker 9: too pro pharmaceutical. So lots going on there. Much to
29:48
Speaker 9: watch in the days, weeks, months and even years ahead,
29:50
Speaker 9: but a very important development at this point. So back
29:54
Speaker 9: to you guys.
29:55
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, thank you. Okay, let's move on. If
29:57
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29:59
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30:09
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30:13
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30:15
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30:19
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30:26
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30:30
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30:34
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30:38
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30:42
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30:45
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30:49
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30:52
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31:00
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31:14
Speaker 1: And finally Signs Beautiful then is taking place as we speak,
31:18
Speaker 1: and once this news program is over, Patrick and I
31:22
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31:25
Speaker 1: meet everybody there. We're looking forward to. The weather is
31:28
Speaker 1: very pleasant, so we should be having a good time
31:31
Speaker 1: over this weekend now, Patrick Gaza people not having a
31:37
Speaker 1: great time there.
31:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an understatement of the millennium. Unfortunately we have
31:43
Speaker 2: to report on this as all eyes were on Iran.
31:46
Speaker 2: All eyes were on what was going on with the
31:48
Speaker 2: US and Iran. In Israel, everyone took their attention off
31:52
Speaker 2: of Gaza, and what has come out in the last
31:55
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, especially in the last seven days, is
31:57
Speaker 2: beyond horrific. Will bring up We'll start with this very
32:02
Speaker 2: important report here and this is up at twenty first
32:05
Speaker 2: Centuri dot com. And what we're doing is serializing highlights
32:09
Speaker 2: from the Harvard report. This is from the Harvard Data Verse,
32:13
Speaker 2: the hidden numbers behind Gaza's real death toll. Now, the
32:16
Speaker 2: numbers being bandied about, Mike, you' probably familiar with sixty
32:19
Speaker 2: thousand dead in Gaza, something along those lines. Here, what
32:24
Speaker 2: we found here, the grim arithmetic IDF data. IDF data
32:29
Speaker 2: reveals three hundred and seventy seven thousand Palestinians are quote
32:33
Speaker 2: unaccounted for, ie dead or missing, dead or missing. Three
32:39
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven thousand. Okay, this is by these numbers,
32:44
Speaker 2: we're looking at a holocaust here, and we don't say
32:47
Speaker 2: that lightly or casually. The report unequivocally demonstrates that the
32:52
Speaker 2: Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, this organization we exposed a couple of
32:56
Speaker 2: weeks ago, compounds they were strategically placed and built to
33:02
Speaker 2: be inaccessible to most, particularly to the one million residents
33:07
Speaker 2: of Gaza City, Hence the riots for food cut off
33:10
Speaker 2: by the Nazarim corridor. This is by design. They're partitioning Gaza.
33:14
Speaker 2: The United States and Israel are doing this in concert here,
33:18
Speaker 2: and the current system fails to support the one point
33:21
Speaker 2: eight five million unaccounted for accounted for, let alone the
33:25
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy seven thousand missing Palestinians in the
33:29
Speaker 2: Gaza strip. Here, let's take a look at some video
33:32
Speaker 2: footage of shooting where people are starving, people cut off
33:36
Speaker 2: with food in ad and water by Israel. Okay, and
33:40
Speaker 2: they're going to collect food at these feeding points the
33:42
Speaker 2: US and Israel call them, and they're being shot at.
33:45
Speaker 2: Hundreds of people have been killed trying to feed themselves
33:48
Speaker 2: and their families. Take a look at this.
33:55
Speaker 8: Along No one knows at.
34:28
Speaker 2: So you get the idea. This is just I mean,
34:31
Speaker 2: how this is acceptable by the British Prime Minister, by
34:35
Speaker 2: any of the European leaders, or anybody in the US.
34:38
Speaker 2: How that's acceptable? Who engineered this? How did this come
34:40
Speaker 2: to be? The United States and Israel are fully responsible
34:44
Speaker 2: for it. Here's the Israeli press. Though. Take a look
34:46
Speaker 2: at this. This is what they're saying. This is Horetz.
34:49
Speaker 2: It's a killing field. Idea of soldiers ordered to shoot deliberately,
34:54
Speaker 2: deliberately at unarmed Ghazin's waiting for humanitarian aid. That's the
34:59
Speaker 2: Israeli press. Okay, that's the Israeli press. That's not us,
35:03
Speaker 2: that is not the opposition media. No, that's the Israeli press.
35:07
Speaker 2: So they're starting to basically take wanting to take responsibility
35:11
Speaker 2: for this. New York Times has pushed the boat out
35:14
Speaker 2: as well. It's dangerous to seek food in Gaza here.
35:17
Speaker 2: This is what they're saying in the New York Times.
35:18
Speaker 2: So again, if there's any doubters out there, I think
35:21
Speaker 2: it's time to get real. Since a new Israeli backed
35:25
Speaker 2: aid system, which we talked about, began a month ago,
35:28
Speaker 2: hundreds of Palestinians have been killed near distribution hubs in
35:31
Speaker 2: southern Gaza. According to local health officials, the new aid
35:35
Speaker 2: centers are death traps. This is a UN spokesperson spokesperson
35:40
Speaker 2: Yen's lyric. Okay, So and they go on and it
35:44
Speaker 2: gets worse. Gaza is the hungriest place on Earth. And
35:50
Speaker 2: just to round this commentary out here, when we are
35:54
Speaker 2: able to bring anyone in, it's getting plundered immediately by
35:58
Speaker 2: the population. That's the level of desperation. This is what
36:01
Speaker 2: happens when you starve two million people. So there we
36:04
Speaker 2: are and they go on. Here. The Israeli back system
36:07
Speaker 2: run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sounds good, doesn't it.
36:11
Speaker 2: It's not. It was just given thirty million by Donald
36:13
Speaker 2: Trump yesterday and that will be paid into the accounts
36:16
Speaker 2: of private US and Israeli contractors. Okay, just so people know.
36:22
Speaker 2: And so that's the situation. And we have Mike, we
36:26
Speaker 2: have exposed this organization here, will bring them up on screen,
36:30
Speaker 2: the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, and we did that a couple
36:33
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and we showed you some of these
36:36
Speaker 2: actors here all Deep State CEO Jake Wood resigned and
36:41
Speaker 2: you got USCID, CIA operatives and other sort of people
36:46
Speaker 2: that are under investigation. I mean, this is as dodgy
36:48
Speaker 2: as it gets again CIA. So that's the long and
36:53
Speaker 2: the short of that situation. So how this is even
36:57
Speaker 2: allowed to happen in twenty twenty five should shock everybody.
37:02
Speaker 2: But how quiet and soup pine our politicians are about it.
37:06
Speaker 2: They wax on about human rights all these years. You
37:09
Speaker 2: remember that responsibility protect and oh the Rohinga and oh
37:15
Speaker 2: this and whatever the cause is for the Palestinians. Nothing
37:18
Speaker 2: total silence. Everybody's scared about speaking out against an ongoing genocide.
37:23
Speaker 2: And this is the result.
37:25
Speaker 1: And that's three hundred and seventy seven thousand figure. Just
37:28
Speaker 1: to clarify that as coming from IDF data.
37:31
Speaker 2: From IDF data, and I believe, correct me if I'm wrong,
37:35
Speaker 2: but they're working with BEng Gurin University in Israel and
37:39
Speaker 2: this is done through Harvard's organization called data Verse published
37:42
Speaker 2: in their publication there. So yeah, so it's about, as
37:47
Speaker 2: you know, for skeptics, are people defending Israel. I'm sorry,
37:51
Speaker 2: but this is credible information.
37:53
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, well Mark, let's welcome you back on
37:57
Speaker 1: to the program then, and let's talk about US people's
38:02
Speaker 1: attitudes towards the conflict in Iran and what have you
38:06
Speaker 1: got on This is coming from the Chicago consol and
38:11
Speaker 1: Global Affairs initially, yes it is.
38:15
Speaker 9: Let's put this up and I can kind of launch
38:17
Speaker 9: this out. Recently in UK column I did a report
38:21
Speaker 9: on a Chicago council survey that generally said that US
38:25
Speaker 9: support for Israel was lukewarm at best. Granted that was
38:29
Speaker 9: earlier in the spring, but this same report now, the
38:32
Speaker 9: same survey, same sponsors, the Lester Crown Center on US
38:36
Speaker 9: Foreign Policy, which is a Jewish family, if so say,
38:40
Speaker 9: French based global marketing firm, and the Chicago Council itself
38:45
Speaker 9: a very recent one, including during the conflict. More Americans
38:49
Speaker 9: oppose rather than support US strikes against Iran. It shows
38:53
Speaker 9: the authors there that those who want to freeze the
38:55
Speaker 9: frame can look that up.
38:57
Speaker 4: Now moving on from.
38:58
Speaker 9: There, there's been a lot of protests lately in a
39:01
Speaker 9: rent itself, and we're seeing some footage from New York City.
39:06
Speaker 9: I want to make it clear, of course, that this
39:08
Speaker 9: doesn't mean we're all in with the thank tanks. The
39:10
Speaker 9: Chicago Council is the former Chicago CFR. We often take
39:14
Speaker 9: a rather dim view of some of their globalist and
39:17
Speaker 9: internationalist views, But the Chicago Council, for example, gets a
39:22
Speaker 9: US tax exemption. Therefore, they have to have a lot
39:25
Speaker 9: of their programs, not all, but a lot of them
39:27
Speaker 9: open to the public, and they have to serve some
39:29
Speaker 9: public purpose. So the Chicago Council conducts these surveys, and
39:33
Speaker 9: they're fairly credible. They do a better job than most,
39:35
Speaker 9: to their credit. And what's interesting is that they did
39:42
Speaker 9: a pretty detailed survey. We'll show a couple slides in
39:45
Speaker 9: a minute, but a big perspective on this is that
39:49
Speaker 9: if Americans knew more of the complete picture. For example,
39:55
Speaker 9: if there was more knowledge of Israel's nuclear program, if
40:00
Speaker 9: inspections were allowed in Israel's nuclear facilities, how then would
40:04
Speaker 9: Iran's very paltry, as we understand it, nuclear facilities compare.
40:10
Speaker 9: Imagine side by side inspections allowed in Israel's nuclear facilities
40:15
Speaker 9: compared to Irans Again, how much of a threat would
40:18
Speaker 9: Iran's facility pose if you could make that comparison. This
40:22
Speaker 9: is the big deficit, and I believe that deficit explains
40:25
Speaker 9: at least part of the anomalies and oddities in the
40:29
Speaker 9: Chicago Council's survey of the June survey that we're talking
40:32
Speaker 9: about now. I think you wanted to comment on something
40:35
Speaker 9: in that slide Mic.
40:37
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just before we get onto the attitudes themselves,
40:42
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I saw during the course of
40:44
Speaker 1: the video clip that this is still from it. We
40:49
Speaker 1: see people there flying is reelly flags. We've got somebody
40:53
Speaker 1: there on the left if we just put a ring
40:56
Speaker 1: round that one with a US is really flag stop
41:00
Speaker 1: and someone on the right here with a flag that
41:03
Speaker 1: they've got wrapped drown themselves. And the question is, Patrick,
41:07
Speaker 1: I'll be interested in your thoughts on this, whether these
41:10
Speaker 1: people are there as some kind of kindra demonstration or
41:14
Speaker 1: whether they're there actually signaling that even though they are
41:18
Speaker 1: carrying as really flags, they support the demonstration. I mean,
41:21
Speaker 1: there's only two people there and amongst the crowd as
41:24
Speaker 1: far as I can see, So it's first of all,
41:26
Speaker 1: it's not much of a kindra demonstration. Second of all,
41:30
Speaker 1: they're putting themselves at risk if they're taking an opposing view.
41:33
Speaker 2: Perhaps well it could be both. Mike, being New York
41:38
Speaker 2: with a sizable and very active Jewish population pro Israeli population,
41:43
Speaker 2: certainly within the Jewish community, I think it could be
41:46
Speaker 2: a small counter protest. But then again, there is solidarity
41:50
Speaker 2: that has appeared where Jewish groups and people who previously
41:55
Speaker 2: supported Israel, including inside Israel, are now putting out video
42:00
Speaker 2: making public statements condemning the government of Israel and the
42:04
Speaker 2: United States for attacking Iran so there's some solidarity coming
42:08
Speaker 2: together that looks like a bona fide, real anti war,
42:12
Speaker 2: you know, universal sort of effort. And that only stands
42:15
Speaker 2: to reason because Israel's never got a taste of their
42:19
Speaker 2: own medicine, so to speak. I'm talking about the public.
42:22
Speaker 2: They've never been themselves meaningfully attacked in the way that
42:25
Speaker 2: they have leveled all the countries around them, like Lebanon,
42:30
Speaker 2: like the Palestinian occupied territories, Assyria, etc. They've never had
42:35
Speaker 2: to face that themselves. And now they've gone out and
42:38
Speaker 2: hit Iran. Iran's struck back, and I think it's a
42:40
Speaker 2: wake up, a big wake up, a big epiphany for
42:44
Speaker 2: a lot of people and Jewish Americans israelis They see
42:48
Speaker 2: how the tie to public opinions turning against Israel and
42:51
Speaker 2: also turning against Trump as well. A lot of his
42:54
Speaker 2: supporters have basically forsaken Maga because of this. It goes
43:00
Speaker 2: against every single principle he campaigned on. Of course. So
43:05
Speaker 2: that's what I think is you're going to see more
43:07
Speaker 2: of this. I think more of this.
43:08
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay? And Mark, so what do you think people's
43:12
Speaker 1: attitudes are then with respect to Israel, Iran and US
43:16
Speaker 1: involvement and not.
43:19
Speaker 9: Well according to the survey, And this is an interesting one.
43:23
Speaker 9: The phenomenon of what's going on. It lacks a galvanizing
43:29
Speaker 9: Pearl Harbor Havana Harbor nine to eleven event that would
43:32
Speaker 9: trip wire the US into this fervent patriotic war alongside
43:37
Speaker 9: its greatest ally in the Middle East, Israel. It lacks
43:40
Speaker 9: that drama that spark So this slide here from the
43:43
Speaker 9: Chicago Council's most recent survey gives some insight. Those that
43:48
Speaker 9: oppose the strikes talking about them before they happened and afterwards,
43:54
Speaker 9: the numbers of them were higher than those that favored them.
43:58
Speaker 9: See the dark line are those that favored before the strikes,
44:02
Speaker 9: and the numbers are a little higher after the strikes
44:06
Speaker 9: in terms of those that favored them. Those that opposed
44:08
Speaker 9: them were hired to begin with, both before and after
44:11
Speaker 9: the strikes. And one thing that's throughout this survey is
44:14
Speaker 9: there's a lot of people moderate and sometimes high numbers
44:17
Speaker 9: that say I don't know enough to say I don't
44:20
Speaker 9: know enough to.
44:20
Speaker 1: Form an opinion.
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Speaker 9: My take on that initially, guys is that if they
44:25
Speaker 9: would read ironically the Israeli media, they would learn a
44:28
Speaker 9: little bit more. You'll learn a lot when you read
44:30
Speaker 9: the Jewish press, that's for sure. And sometimes they do
44:33
Speaker 9: come out against man Yahou's government to a degree they
44:36
Speaker 9: put out some reality, But beyond being misinformed by the
44:40
Speaker 9: Western media, I think a lot of this is just
44:43
Speaker 9: that there's never been, as I alluded to, an actual, substantive, published,
44:48
Speaker 9: reported inspection of Israel's nuclear facilities. And if people knew
44:53
Speaker 9: more about Israel's nuclear arsenal, just like if they knew
44:57
Speaker 9: more about what happened with the USS Liberty Israel deliberately
45:01
Speaker 9: attacking that US ship in sixty seven, that being a
45:04
Speaker 9: bellweather event that would bring peace rather than war. If
45:07
Speaker 9: these things were more widely and commonly known, these kind
45:12
Speaker 9: of surveys would show very I believe, very remarkable results,
45:17
Speaker 9: and the Israeli state would lose a lot of its
45:19
Speaker 9: credibil credibility because, as I alluded to a couple of
45:22
Speaker 9: minutes ago, imagine if we knew the full range of
45:25
Speaker 9: Israel's nuclear arsenal and put that up alongside Iran's, suddenly
45:29
Speaker 9: Irans would look so insignificant and inconsequential by comparison. But
45:35
Speaker 9: moving on, there's a couple other sides. We can just
45:37
Speaker 9: take a very click quick look at people can freeze
45:40
Speaker 9: these to look at them for more detail. Were Israeli
45:43
Speaker 9: strikes justified in the first column. In the justified column,
45:47
Speaker 9: those that answer justified. That is, again we see that
45:50
Speaker 9: big Republican spike. The Democrats and Independence much more lukewarm
45:56
Speaker 9: or saying basically that they're not. Because in the unjustified
46:02
Speaker 9: column we see the Democrats and the Independence the blue
46:04
Speaker 9: and the yellow being higher, and of course the Republicans
46:07
Speaker 9: being lower. So the duopoly, the Republican wing of the
46:12
Speaker 9: overall establishment, the evangelical element within the Republican Party that
46:17
Speaker 9: we often talk about is what puts this over the top.
46:22
Speaker 9: So moving on from there, there was also a recent
46:25
Speaker 9: additional survey by the Chicago Council, and we'll show this
46:29
Speaker 9: just briefly. This is back in April mid April, but
46:33
Speaker 9: even then, six in ten Americans support US participation in
46:37
Speaker 9: a nuclear agreement with Iran, So it was leaning toward
46:42
Speaker 9: let's do agreements, let's do something approaching diplomacy like what
46:46
Speaker 9: Patrick alluded to, rather than just leaping into kinetic war.
46:52
Speaker 9: And the rest of this kind of explains that US
46:56
Speaker 9: policy toward Iranian nuclear development, to put it, continuing diplomatic efforts.
47:03
Speaker 9: The top set of four horizontal lines got the most response.
47:08
Speaker 9: Continued diplomatic efforts. Then as you go down the totem pole,
47:13
Speaker 9: imposed tighter economic sanctions again, no kinetic war, very high
47:17
Speaker 9: numbers down again, conduct cyber attacks against Iran's computer systems.
47:23
Speaker 9: And only when you went to the bottom of that
47:25
Speaker 9: long survey do you get now to conduct air strikes,
47:30
Speaker 9: very moderate numbers, send US troops and so on. So
47:35
Speaker 9: over the course of the spring in the summer, there
47:37
Speaker 9: has not been any appreciable war fever in the United States,
47:41
Speaker 9: that's for sure. And it's becoming a very tough sell
47:44
Speaker 9: to just go in and arbitrarily bomb a neighboring country
47:48
Speaker 9: without a declaration of war, and even without any kind
47:51
Speaker 9: of bell weather event like a Pearl Harbor that would
47:54
Speaker 9: facilitate motivating the public to be all behind.
47:58
Speaker 4: The war effort.
48:00
Speaker 9: Lastly, this last line just recalls the third survey. The
48:05
Speaker 9: most recent two that I reported on today are in
48:07
Speaker 9: addition to one I did about four or five weeks
48:10
Speaker 9: ago on UK column, and that was more general Americans
48:13
Speaker 9: are growing more divided on US support for Israel. So
48:17
Speaker 9: all in all, the American people are not real highly
48:21
Speaker 9: motivated to get behind all of this, and it's an
48:23
Speaker 9: important trend to take a hard look at. Maybe you
48:26
Speaker 9: guys want to comment a little more, but it's very
48:29
Speaker 9: interesting and I'll keep following this stuff as it goes along.
48:32
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark. I would say, if Mark's talking about
48:35
Speaker 1: there being nobel weather event like nine to eleven or whatever,
48:38
Speaker 1: we got to add the word yet onto that.
48:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because right after this, if you noticed on
48:44
Speaker 2: social media, the talking points are being put out Iranian
48:47
Speaker 2: sleeper cells, Iranian sleeper cells, all the influencers are pushing it.
48:51
Speaker 2: I think that was a coordinate campaign. And lo and behold,
48:54
Speaker 2: And we didn't have time to include this in today's report,
48:56
Speaker 2: but Iran, according to Taranta Times, supplied the United States
49:01
Speaker 2: with intelligence of an Israeli false flag on US soil,
49:05
Speaker 2: which didn't happen after Iran supplied intelligence to warn the
49:10
Speaker 2: US government. That was yesterday. Okay, Now take that with
49:14
Speaker 2: a pinch of salt if you'd like. But is there
49:17
Speaker 2: any coincidence all the talking points, Iranian sleeper cells setting
49:23
Speaker 2: up the narrative for a false flag attack? Right there's
49:26
Speaker 2: clearly something going on, and so they went, They're not
49:29
Speaker 2: going to let this lie. Israel has plenty of tricks
49:32
Speaker 2: up their sleeve if you look at history, and like
49:36
Speaker 2: Mark said, the USS liberty, they wouldn't do that, would they?
49:40
Speaker 1: Of course not. Okay, well, look let's move on then
49:43
Speaker 1: and onto online safety. In the UK, now Ofcom has
49:47
Speaker 1: announced hired and tents to fleece the social media platforms
49:52
Speaker 1: in order to funds at censorship regime, and they cite
49:55
Speaker 1: the Online Safety Acts reference to what are described as
49:57
Speaker 1: qualifying worldwide revenues and say that it is this measure
50:02
Speaker 1: that should be used to determine the level of fees
50:04
Speaker 1: platforms have to pay for the privilege of being regulated.
50:09
Speaker 1: They also point out that the same measure which could
50:12
Speaker 1: be used or which would be used to define sanctions
50:15
Speaker 1: should OFFCOM find any platform and breach of online sifty rules. Now,
50:19
Speaker 1: the question is what are qualifying worldwide revenues. OFFCOM defines
50:24
Speaker 1: them as, amongst quotes, amongst other things, a firm's global
50:28
Speaker 1: revenue from relevant parts of the of regulated services, rather
50:32
Speaker 1: than just all the revenue that is attributable to the
50:35
Speaker 1: UK alone. So in other words, they're looking at globally.
50:38
Speaker 1: But they're saying that it's on the basis of relevant revenue,
50:43
Speaker 1: but what's considered relevant is not defined.
50:46
Speaker 2: Now.
50:46
Speaker 1: They say that fees will be equivalent to approximately zero
50:50
Speaker 1: point two to zero point three percent of company companies
50:55
Speaker 1: qualified worldwide revenue each year. And on the face of
50:59
Speaker 1: the that might not sound like much, but bearing in
51:02
Speaker 1: mind the global revenue of the facebooks and Twitters of
51:04
Speaker 1: the world, it's actually quite a lot. So in Facebook's case,
51:07
Speaker 1: for example, that's certainly going to be in the region
51:10
Speaker 1: of tens of millions of pounds, estimating it at about
51:13
Speaker 1: thirty to forty million pounds for Meta as a whole,
51:16
Speaker 1: not just Facebook. If we look at x probably around
51:19
Speaker 1: the million pound mark, TikTok probably in the five to
51:21
Speaker 1: seven million pound mark, and Snapchat in the one and
51:25
Speaker 1: a half million pound mark, and as you go down
51:27
Speaker 1: the list, it all starts to add up. But don't worry, though,
51:32
Speaker 1: there will be thresholds before any of these fees have
51:35
Speaker 1: to be paid, and they think that somewhere in the
51:37
Speaker 1: region of global revenue between two hundred and five hundred
51:40
Speaker 1: million pounds is appropriate. In other words, a few revenues
51:43
Speaker 1: below that level it's not worth their time to try
51:46
Speaker 1: to collect the fees. Maybe they feel like they need
51:48
Speaker 1: to send in the.
51:52
Speaker 4: Billiffs.
51:53
Speaker 1: Perhaps it's too expensive for smaller companies. But anyway, a
51:57
Speaker 1: week ago, I was reporting on the so called high effective,
52:01
Speaker 1: highly effective age assurance aspect of the Online Safety Act,
52:05
Speaker 1: in other words, the requirement to prove your age when
52:08
Speaker 1: accessing certain types of content. Now, the types of technologies
52:12
Speaker 1: which they consider to be highly effective are listed on
52:15
Speaker 1: the right hand side of this protecular graphic, credit card checks,
52:19
Speaker 1: open banking which allows consumers and businesses to securely share
52:22
Speaker 1: the financial data with third party service providers through APIs,
52:26
Speaker 1: Application programming interfaces, photo ID matching, facial age estimation, mobile
52:32
Speaker 1: network operator age checks, digital ID services, and email based
52:37
Speaker 1: on age sorry, email based edge estimation. Now, of course,
52:41
Speaker 1: in order for these age checks to be done, you've
52:44
Speaker 1: got to make it clear to your mobile operator, for example,
52:48
Speaker 1: that you're visiting Pornhelp or whatever the website is, it's
52:51
Speaker 1: wanting to estimate your age or get some verification of
52:54
Speaker 1: your age and so on. But yesterday Offcomm announced that
52:59
Speaker 1: the major porn the major porn providers have actually signed
53:05
Speaker 1: up to this now and they have decided to do
53:10
Speaker 1: this in time for ofcom's deadline next month. Now, I'm
53:13
Speaker 1: not going to list the sites that have agreed to
53:16
Speaker 1: comply with the regime at the moment, but if you're
53:18
Speaker 1: really interested in that list, it's on the offcom press release,
53:22
Speaker 1: which will be listed in the show notes. Noy offcom
53:25
Speaker 1: claims that monitoring compliance with these new duties is a priority,
53:30
Speaker 1: and that any company failing to comply will be subject
53:33
Speaker 1: defined in very serious cases, a court order to prevent
53:36
Speaker 1: the site or app from being available in the UK.
53:39
Speaker 1: So they're already building the Great Firewall of Britain, and
53:42
Speaker 1: they've already launched investigations in the four porn providers. And
53:47
Speaker 1: as I say at the time, or as I said
53:49
Speaker 1: at the time, all the focus from ofcom is on
53:52
Speaker 1: verifying that someone is over the age of eighteen. At
53:55
Speaker 1: no point did they comment on any requirement to make
53:58
Speaker 1: sure that someone who is under the hvteen or make
54:01
Speaker 1: sure that someone was under the edgeviteen for access to
54:04
Speaker 1: site a site into children. So you know, this is
54:07
Speaker 1: all the focuses on children accessing pornography initially because porn
54:12
Speaker 1: is always the uh, the sort of leader in this
54:15
Speaker 1: and whatever happens with pornography is ruled out to other
54:19
Speaker 1: services later on. But you know, as I say, they're
54:23
Speaker 1: not worried about perhaps older people accessing websites are specifically
54:27
Speaker 1: into children. That is just not on the ridar at
54:30
Speaker 1: the moment at all, and quite incredible.
54:32
Speaker 2: This is an amazing shakedown operation by Offcom, isn't it
54:35
Speaker 2: shaking down these big global corporations to fund a new
54:39
Speaker 2: bureaucratic censorship Joe versus the Volcano Department information dispersal. Why
54:46
Speaker 2: don't they just get rid of social media in Britain
54:49
Speaker 2: and have the BBC do our social media? Then all
54:51
Speaker 2: our problems are solved, aren't we We can have a
54:54
Speaker 2: license that we pay to use our phone, just like
54:57
Speaker 2: the TV. Is that not where things are ad?
55:00
Speaker 1: That is exactly where things are headed to.
55:02
Speaker 2: I see we're too far ahead of the Overton window there, Mike, Yes,
55:06
Speaker 2: gotta be careful.
55:07
Speaker 1: We shall keep an eye on this and keep reporting.
55:10
Speaker 1: But I think that's absolutely the case.
55:13
Speaker 4: Mark.
55:13
Speaker 1: Let's come back to you then. And Chatham House, which
55:17
Speaker 1: of course everybody knows, or at least everybody should know,
55:21
Speaker 1: one of these globalist policy making organizations. That is very
55:25
Speaker 1: British Oh.
55:28
Speaker 9: Indeed, I decided recently not only to cover the Chicago CFR,
55:34
Speaker 9: which is the Council on Global Affairs. We talked about
55:36
Speaker 9: their surveys Trilateral Commission BUILDEBERG, the original New York CFR.
55:41
Speaker 9: I wanted to branch out to Chathamhouse. I literally was
55:43
Speaker 9: thinking about it a week or two ago. All of
55:45
Speaker 9: a sudden, I get an email for the first time ever.
55:49
Speaker 9: Somehow one of my emails got on their email list
55:51
Speaker 9: and they sent me this notice, maybe not like on
55:54
Speaker 9: a personal basis, but maybe part of a mass email.
55:57
Speaker 9: I'm not sure. They're having a pro July second entitled
56:02
Speaker 9: how should Britain build influence and impact on the Korean Peninsula?
56:08
Speaker 9: And that's something we hear about all the time, reassessing
56:11
Speaker 9: the UK's role in security, security, diplomacy and engagement on
56:15
Speaker 9: the Korean Peninsula. So as of July second noon, my time,
56:20
Speaker 9: I'll cover that in real time and we'll see what
56:22
Speaker 9: that's about. So that's an advanced announcement. Plus I'm kind
56:25
Speaker 9: of branching out to cover Chathamhouse a little bit more.
56:29
Speaker 9: And a quick footnote is it appears that UK column
56:32
Speaker 9: when they have the public open programs could send someone
56:36
Speaker 9: two ten Saint James Square where they're located and actually
56:40
Speaker 9: go in and cover it in person. It appears to
56:42
Speaker 9: be that way anyway. There's also an interesting move. I
56:45
Speaker 9: picked up on this as I was looking into this program.
56:49
Speaker 9: Let's look at this. There's a little bit of a
56:51
Speaker 9: changing of the guard. Evo Dolder, the former US envoid
56:55
Speaker 9: in NATO under Obama, is stepping down as CEO and
56:59
Speaker 9: President of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, and Leslie
57:03
Speaker 9: vin Ja Murray has been named President and CEO CEO
57:08
Speaker 9: of the Chicago Council to replace Galder. She comes to
57:11
Speaker 9: the Council from the Royal Institute of International Affairs known
57:15
Speaker 9: as Chathamhouse in London, succeeding succeeding evil Doalder, who's shown
57:20
Speaker 9: to the right there. So we have a Chathamhouse apparatuate
57:23
Speaker 9: going over to the Chicago Council to replace as president.
57:27
Speaker 9: Here is the person doing the replacing, Leslie ben Ja Murray,
57:31
Speaker 9: as Chicago's new global leader. She directs the US and
57:35
Speaker 9: America's program and shares the faculty of the Queen Elizabeth
57:38
Speaker 9: Second Academy for Leadership in International Affairs at Chathamhouse. That's
57:42
Speaker 9: what she's been doing there. She's also a professor of
57:45
Speaker 9: international relations at Soas University of London and like many
57:50
Speaker 9: a Council on Form Relations member, that's sort of a commonality.
57:54
Speaker 9: So as they're doing this program, there's this changing of
57:58
Speaker 9: the guard. It shows there's a very horizontal relationship between
58:01
Speaker 9: all these think tanks, revolving doors, the whole nine yards.
58:05
Speaker 9: And as we know, the main things the think tanks
58:07
Speaker 9: do is they form a bridge from plutocratic and financial
58:11
Speaker 9: interests into government by supplying the personnel, the study papers,
58:16
Speaker 9: in depth, studies, white papers, you name it, recommendations for government.
58:21
Speaker 9: That way, the main constituent of government is the plutocracy,
58:24
Speaker 9: not the people. That's the main function of these of
58:27
Speaker 9: these particular think tanks. But that's the latest of what's
58:30
Speaker 9: going on in think tank land, you might say.
58:33
Speaker 1: And my initial my question always is, Mark, why does
58:37
Speaker 1: the mainstream press never look deeper into these types of
58:41
Speaker 1: organizations and what they actually do, what the kinds of lobbying,
58:45
Speaker 1: lobbying that they actually do is it's amazing.
58:49
Speaker 9: And the Financial Times, the Chicago Tribune, on my side
58:53
Speaker 9: of the pond, they collaborate with these thing tanks, And
58:55
Speaker 9: we've talked about this before. There'll be a moderator at
58:58
Speaker 9: one of their discussions, I'll be part of a panel discussion.
59:02
Speaker 9: But they never actually step outside and objectively outside looking
59:07
Speaker 9: in and report on it. I've talked about before. I
59:10
Speaker 9: went to an October twenty seventeen program where Rasmussen, then
59:15
Speaker 9: head of NATO, was speaking in Chicago, the head of
59:18
Speaker 9: NATO speaking in Chicago. I was the only reporter there.
59:22
Speaker 9: Why Why wasn't the Chicago Tribune there? Where's the Sun Times.
59:26
Speaker 9: They're only there when they break bread with these people.
59:28
Speaker 9: They don't actually report on them, even though there's plenty
59:32
Speaker 9: of ample reasons to report new people stepping down or
59:36
Speaker 9: new people coming in, other people stepping down. That might
59:39
Speaker 9: get a little burb, you know, a little couple lines
59:42
Speaker 9: in the business section or something. But it's a strange phenomenon.
59:46
Speaker 9: It extends to Bilderberg reporters. They drop their journalistic integrity
59:51
Speaker 9: at the door. They leave it at the door. They
59:52
Speaker 9: go in, they collaborate, but they don't report. They're betraying
59:55
Speaker 9: the journalistic code, you might say. But I could go on,
59:59
Speaker 9: but it's a frustrating and sort of inexplicable thing at times.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: Yes, I know why, Okay, if you don't want to
1:00:07
Speaker 2: bash your potential future employer. Everybody is a potential employer
1:00:11
Speaker 2: in the land of the press and think tanks and government,
1:00:14
Speaker 2: it's one big revolving carousel, that's why.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm sure we'll talk more about that in
1:00:19
Speaker 1: extra a couple of minutes, amongst other things. We'll have
1:00:23
Speaker 1: a short extra today because we do need to hit
1:00:25
Speaker 1: the road, but join us in a few minutes if
1:00:27
Speaker 1: the UK called number four extra. Otherwise, have a great weekend.
1:00:31
Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday at wee pm one pm.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: See you then, bye bye.