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Ep. 78: Real SIBO Recovery Stories (And What They Had in Common) [SIBO mini series part 4] · Love Your Gut

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  Dr. Heather Finley: Welcome to the Love Your Gut Podcast.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm your host, Dr.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Heather Finley, registered dietitian and gut health specialist.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I understand the frustration of dealing with GI issues because I've been there and I spent over two decades searching for answers for my own gut issues of constipation, bloating, and stomach pain.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I've dedicated my life to understanding and solving my own gut issues.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: And now I'm here to guide you.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: On this podcast, I'll help you identify the true root causes of your discomfort.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So you can finally ditch your symptoms for good.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: My goal is to empower you with the knowledge and tools you need so that you can love your gut and it will love you right back.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So if you're ready to learn a lot, gain a deeper understanding of your gut and find lasting relief.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: You are in the right place.
• 0:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: Welcome to the love your gut podcast.
• 0:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: Welcome back to the next episode of the Love Your Gut podcast and the last episode in this SIBO series.
• 1:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: I hope you have loved this series as much as I have, and I'm really excited to dive in today with some different SIBO cases that hopefully you will resonate with.
• 1:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: I hope that you listen to these stories and are able to see why.
• 1:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: SIBO and getting a diagnosis of SIBO is just scratching the surface to actual healing.
• 1:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm going to share with you three different client stories, and all of these clients either thought they had SIBO or were actually diagnosed with sibo, and the way that we approached it for each of these clients was actually completely different.
• 1:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you've been following along, SIBO is a symptom, not the root cause, and that testing and treating sibo, whether that's through antibiotics or herbal antimicrobials, without understanding your whole gut terrain.
• 1:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: We'll only get you so far and that's why so many of the SIBO clients that we work with come to us after having treated sibo.
• 2:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: Three, four, sometimes five plus times.
• 2:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I wanna close out this series by just giving you a little bit of hope and also a little bit of insight in what that could actually look like for you if you were to.
• 2:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: Really understand all the pieces of your puzzle.
• 2:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: So instead of more like what to do, I want to show you just what it looks like when this works and how your life could be different and how it doesn't actually have to be so complicated because I know it's super frustrating.
• 2:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: When you've tried so many things and you still feel bloated, you still feel reactive, you still feel constipated.
• 2:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Maybe you're having diarrhea and you're stuck on five safe foods.
• 2:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: So like I said, we're gonna walk through three real client stories.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: All women who had SIBO on paper.
• 3:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or thought they had SIBO and needed a completely different treatment plan to finally feel better.
• 3:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so if you hear your own story in one of theirs, like I said, I hope it gives you hope.
• 3:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: Just quick reminder, if you are ready for personalized support, now is the time to.
• 3:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: Apply for get together.
• 3:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: We always get really full as back to school happens and people are preparing for the holidays.
• 3:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: You might still be in summer mode and I'm definitely getting out of summer mode.
• 3:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: We had the first week of school last week and things are getting a little bit more routined in a good way over here, but we're about three months out from the holiday time.
• 3:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that is when people end up panic, calling us wanting support because they don't want to spend another holiday restricting foods or being doubled over in pain or bloated or whatever it might be.
• 3:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: So, jump on my calendar.
• 3:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: Let's have a discovery call.
• 4:00
  Dr. Heather Finley: Let's chat through your case.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Let's make sure it's a good fit to work together, chat through options, and get you feeling better.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So let's dive in.
• 4:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: I wanna share with you about this client.
• 4:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: We'll call this client the tried Everything client.
• 4:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: This is probably the most common case that we see, the clients that come to us with a super long history.
• 4:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: This specific client had treated SIBO four times.
• 4:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had worked with several practitioners.
• 4:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her GI doctor, as well as another dietician, she had worked with a naturopath kind of more in the functional space and felt like she was just on this merry-go-round that she could not get off of.
• 4:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had taken antibiotics, she had done low fodmap.
• 4:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had done several other elimination diets, AIP low oxalate, biphasic, you name it.
• 4:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had tried it, but she had several things that would happen to her.
• 4:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: First when she treated sibo.
• 4:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: She felt better while she was on the antibiotics, and then the second she got off, she felt worse.
• 5:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: Even worse than before she started, and then she took the antibiotics again.
• 5:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: Proceeded to do that four times, and as she got close to the fourth time that she was on the antibiotics, she didn't notice a single thing.
• 5:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: She was more constipated, more bloated, and more terrified to eat more than just a few foods.
• 5:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: She told me in our first.
• 5:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: Discussion that we had.
• 5:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: I feel like I'm never gonna get better because I'm actually just getting worse.
• 5:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: So here's what I told her.
• 5:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm like, we actually see this a lot.
• 5:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: So not that this is the club that you wanna be a part of, but.
• 5:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: Here we are.
• 5:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: And there is a way for you to feel better, and I imagine that part of the reason that you're feeling worse is because your body is really depleted.
• 5:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's a lot of work for your body to try to push out infections like sibo H Pylori, whatever you have.
• 6:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's a lot of work, and especially if you're really stressed about it.
• 6:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: You're restricting foods.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Your diet is really limited from a mineral perspective.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: You're also gonna get really depleted.
• 6:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: And if you've been around here for any amount of time, you know how important minerals are.
• 6:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: They're the foundation for every metabolic process in your body, including digestion and energy.
• 6:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: So.
• 6:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: We actually started by running an HTMA test on her and what stood out on her testing.
• 6:33
  Dr. Heather Finley: So she did an HTMA and a GI map.
• 6:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: What stood out wasn't her bacteria.
• 6:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: Sure there were bacteria that we needed to address, but I wasn't that concerned about it.
• 6:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was her minerals.
• 6:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her body was completely burned out.
• 6:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: When we looked at her adrenal ratios, when we looked at her sodium and potassium, she was completely burned out.
• 6:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: They were completely in the tank, and that is part of the reason why she was barely having bowel movements, maybe one every three to four days.
• 7:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: We hit pause on pretty much anything related to gut bacteria and we took a step back and zoomed out and here's the deal.
• 7:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you're not pooping, you cannot clear anything.
• 7:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can't detox.
• 7:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can't get rid of sibo.
• 7:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can't, your body cannot heal.
• 7:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can't ask your body to do the hard work of clearing bacteria if your exit roots aren't open.
• 7:30
  Dr. Heather Finley: I don't know a better way to say that.
• 7:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: So instead of another round of antimicrobials, her plan looked a little bit like this.
• 7:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: We supported her motility because we had to get her bowels moving and contracting.
• 7:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: We focused on foundationally supporting her minerals.
• 7:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: This for her looked like a custom mineral blend.
• 7:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: Sounds fancier than it is, but it's a really great way that we can support our clients.
• 7:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: Once we have HTMA testing, we can custom blend a mineral powder for them.
• 8:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like I said, it sounds fancier than it is, but it actually ends up being way more affordable than buying a random.
• 8:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: Electrolyte drink or buying this mineral drink.
• 8:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: And it's something that is exactly what that person needs based on their test results.
• 8:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: So she started on that.
• 8:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: We also introduced a lot of nervous system regulation because she had this belief that she was never gonna get better and that food was scary, that her symptoms were scary.
• 8:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: Eating out was scary, and she was the mom with the symptoms.
• 8:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: So we had to do a lot of rewiring around that, how food is not scary, how eating out does not have to be scary, how her body could heal, how our bodies were designed to heal, and that was a big part of her process.
• 8:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: Then later on we supported.
• 8:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her beneficial flora and the bacteria in her gut.
• 8:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: We added in spore based probiotics, some gentle gut support.
• 8:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: We didn't do any major killing.
• 9:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so I, what I want you to hear from this is once we got her testing, her testing actually didn't look at all like sibo.
• 9:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Although she had positively tested for SIBO in the past, that's why the antibiotics weren't working anymore.
• 9:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: She probably had cleared the SIBO maybe the first time, but she had a lot of other stuff going on, and whether she still had SIBO or not, I don't know because she hadn't done another breath test.
• 9:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: But from a large intestine standpoint.
• 9:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: It didn't totally look like that, and we were able to help her get better, which is great.
• 9:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Slowly, everything started changing.
• 9:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: She started pooping daily.
• 9:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her energy came back.
• 9:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: She felt safe to eat again.
• 9:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Adding foods back in.
• 9:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: And this is 75% of what we see in practice.
• 9:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's not that the treatment that you're doing is failing, it's that your body is too depleted to heal and it's that maybe it's not the treatment that you need, which is where some additional testing can be helpful.
• 10:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: I think SIBO testing, there can be a time and a place for sure.
• 10:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I have other episodes on that.
• 10:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you wanna go back to part one, two, or three of this series, I'd chat more about that.
• 10:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: But what we were able to do with this other testing was look at why her body wasn't responding to it and create a plan there.
• 10:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: So that's.
• 10:30
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's case number one.
• 10:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: That's a really, really common scenario that we see.
• 10:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: Let's contrast that with a completely different case.
• 10:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: Someone whose main roadblock wasn't minerals, it wasn't motility, but it was actually fat digestion and bile flow.
• 10:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: So this is the gallbladder case.
• 10:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: This client came to us feeling like everything she ate made her bloat.
• 10:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: Which is why she had this belief that she still had sibo and why she might need to treat her SIBO again.
• 11:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: But the reality was she had no gallbladder.
• 11:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had had her gallbladder out, I think like 10 years prior to working with us, but no one had ever really helped her understand what that meant or why that mattered.
• 11:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: Every time she ate fat, she felt terrible.
• 11:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: She felt like she was burping constantly.
• 11:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her stools were really sticky.
• 11:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her stools were greasy.
• 11:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: She couldn't tolerate probiotics.
• 11:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: She could not tolerate fermented foods.
• 11:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: And when we ran some testing on her, what we found is she had really high scr, which shows undigested fat in her stool, and really low elastase, which shows really poor pancreatic enzyme output.
• 11:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: So basically she wasn't digesting her food well at all, and especially fat.
• 11:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that's the problem because bile flow is very essential for more than just digestion.
• 11:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: I always tell the practitioners in my practitioner program that bile is seriously the real.
• 12:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: MVP of digestion.
• 12:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Because it's antimicrobial, it stimulates motility.
• 12:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's kind of the detergent that your gut needs to stay clean and clear.
• 12:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so when you've had your gallbladder removed, you still have bile flow, but you don't get this like surge of bile like you would if you had a gallbladder.
• 12:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you have sticky stool burping after high fat meals, this really applies to you.
• 12:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: Whether you have a gallbladder or not, you can still have gallbladder issues with or without a gallbladder.
• 12:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: So for this client, her plan really focused on supporting bile flow.
• 12:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: By looking upstream and seeing why was her bile flow stuck?
• 12:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: Obviously getting her gallbladder out was a big piece of that, but she had low stomach acid.
• 12:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: She also had an h pylori infection, which was likely suppressing stomach acid.
• 12:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: So this was making the bile flow piece worse because we need stomach acid to stimulate bile flow, and h pylori suppresses stomach acid.
• 13:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: So we supported her stomach acid.
• 13:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: We supported bile flow with.
• 13:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: Bitters and Toine and just some gentle digestive support.
• 13:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: We had to rebuild her stomach acid by getting rid of the h pylori infection and then giving it the tools that it needed to create stomach acid and then reintroducing enzymes and and fat in small digestible amounts.
• 13:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: So.
• 13:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: Using targeted enzymes to help her body break food down.
• 13:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: Eventually getting off of those enzymes and focusing more on nutrients that can stimulate that.
• 13:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: But temporarily, we use some enzymes to help with symptom relief, which sometimes that's what you have to do if you're miserable.
• 13:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: Let's give your body the tool it needs to feel better so you can make progress, and then you can slowly.
• 13:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: Fill in the gaps and come off of some of those things.
• 13:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: And the main thing was strengthening.
• 13:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: Strengthening her upper GI function, starting with chewing and salivation.
• 14:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: Digestion really starts in your mouth and helping to improve that north to south pathway so that when she was eating, the whole system was communicating with each other.
• 14:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her bile was flowing and digesting and cleansing the digestive tract.
• 14:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you don't have enough bile, it creates an environment for bacterial overgrowth.
• 14:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: So when she was finally finished up, she could finally eat fats without pain.
• 14:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her bloating was gone.
• 14:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: She was able to add small amounts of fermented food and eventually tolerated.
• 14:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: Some prebiotic rich meals.
• 14:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: So many people with SIBO have a bile flow issue, and if your upper digestion isn't working, your gut becomes a perfect environment for overgrowth.
• 14:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's very common that we see clients who have SIBO 3, 4, 5 years after getting their gallbladders out.
• 14:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: They're usually told you don't need to change your diet.
• 15:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: You don't need to take anything.
• 15:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Everything will work just fine.
• 15:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then a couple years later, the bill comes due and so.
• 15:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's just something to be aware of.
• 15:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you have had your gallbladder out and you're having symptoms, there are ways to address it and there's ways to not be miserable and not have symptoms.
• 15:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: So let me share one more story.
• 15:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: Someone whose test results didn't even show sibo, but she felt like she had it every single day.
• 15:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: And this is common as well.
• 15:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her doctor just treated her for it without even testing.
• 15:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: For it.
• 15:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: So if you relate to this, you might have the story of, all my tests are normal, but I have constant gas, constant bloating.
• 15:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: I have brain fog, I have mood swings, fatigue, I can't eat without discomfort.
• 15:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: This client came to us really frustrated and said, you know, I've done the SIBO test, I've done the stool test.
• 15:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Everything says I'm fine.
• 15:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: I do not feel fine, and as we really dug into her history, the missing piece became pretty clear.
• 16:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: Number one, she had multiple C-sections.
• 16:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you might be thinking, why does that matter?
• 16:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'll get to that in a second.
• 16:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: She had a history of past trauma and she had zero support for her nervous system and her scar tissue from the C-section.
• 16:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: So we had to work with other providers to help her as a result of this.
• 16:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: She did have some things on.
• 16:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: Our stool testing that showed up that we needed to address, and we did of course, but this was very much a team effort.
• 16:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: She was working with a visceral manipulation therapist to help with the scar tissue.
• 16:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: She was doing pelvic floor PT to address the adhesions and get everything working back together again.
• 16:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: We really supported her nervous system from both a food standpoint of my body can digest food, my body can tolerate food.
• 17:00
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm not gonna always be bloated.
• 17:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: Working on kind of the mindset beliefs there.
• 17:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: Vagus nerve support.
• 17:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: And she also was working with a therapist on her history of trauma, which was so.
• 17:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Brave of her to finally get support for that.
• 17:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: We needed to support her gut lining.
• 17:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: She was severely depleted from a gut immune standpoint, which makes sense with multiple C-sections.
• 17:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: History of trauma.
• 17:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: There's actual research that shows that negative thought patterns and trauma directly.
• 17:33
  Dr. Heather Finley: Decreases your secretary, IGA, which is your gut immune system.
• 17:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: Your gut immune system is kind of like the bouncer at the bar in your gut and decides to keep the riffraff out.
• 17:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so if your secretary, IGA is really depleted.
• 17:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: Then it has a hard time protecting you.
• 17:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: So we really had to focus on supporting her secretary, IGA, supporting and rebuilding her minerals reintroducing some nervous system support around meals.
• 18:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Her life was just really chaotic, really stressed all the time.
• 18:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: And after six months, she was seriously a different person.
• 18:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: Even though her SIBO test had been negative, she still had a lot of the symptoms, the painful bloating.
• 18:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: The food intolerances, the constipation, all of that.
• 18:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: And the reason was obviously the things that I mentioned, but as a result of those things being unaddressed, her gut terrain needed a lot of repair and a lot of support.
• 18:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: So similar to the first case where we didn't really need to do a lot of quote unquote killing, we didn't need to.
• 18:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: And go on antimicrobials or anything super strong.
• 18:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: But her gut needed immunoglobulins and it needed minerals and it needed stomach acid support and it needed motility support.
• 18:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that's what get mi gets missed all the time when we don't take a full look at the picture.
• 19:00
  Dr. Heather Finley: So let's zoom.
• 19:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: All three of these clients came to us with some version of, I've done everything and I feel awful.
• 19:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: And what made the difference for all three of them was they stopped asking, what other protocol can I do?
• 19:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or what antimicrobials do I need to take?
• 19:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or maybe I need to.
• 19:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: Switch up the antibiotics and started asking What's not working in my body that allowed this to happen in the first place.
• 19:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: We had to zoom out and take a look at from birth till now.
• 19:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: What were all of the triggering events?
• 19:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: What was the domino effect that got us here?
• 19:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: What do the day-to-day patterns in our symptoms look like?
• 19:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: That tell us a lot about why you're having symptoms.
• 19:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: What also do the patterns in past treatments tell us about your symptoms.
• 19:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: So, although the recovery plans really looked totally different, it's because their root causes were different.
• 19:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: But what they had in common was we had to support their north to south.
• 20:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: Digestive process.
• 20:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: We had to understand all the kinks in the plan and what wasn't working, and not just focus on the small intestine.
• 20:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: We supported their gut terrain.
• 20:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: We had to make sure that they had beneficial microbes, that they were eating prebiotics to support their gut, that they had the minerals they needed, they had the enzymes they needed, they had.
• 20:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: The secretary IGA and gut immune barrier that they needed and we rebuilt a lot without restricting further, we're not weed whacking foods out of their diet.
• 20:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: We're actually adding foods back in as we're supporting their body's ability to be able to digest food and tolerate it.
• 20:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: So hear me when I say this.
• 20:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: True gut healing really happens when you rebuild capacity and you don't just focus on managing symptoms.
• 20:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can do low FODMAP and probably find some symptom relief.
• 20:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: But for how long?
• 20:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: When is that going to go away?
• 20:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can take these bloat pills that some influencer tells you to take.
• 21:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: You can take antibiotics for sibo, but you're never gonna fully.
• 21:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: Heal if you don't understand why and you don't truly rebuild your digestive capacity from start to finish.
• 21:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: So if this is you, you've done protocols, you've tried supplements, and nothing's really changed and you've never had somebody fully understand your case and fully understand.
• 21:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: The whole process, you're not broken, you're just missing the right roadmap for your body.
• 21:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I hope that this series has been informative and helpful.
• 21:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: I know I've chatted with several of you already on discovery calls and you're like, I've learned so much about sibo.
• 21:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Why is my doctor not sharing this?
• 21:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: And the reason is because SIBO is.
• 21:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: Kind of a new-ish in in the context of the medical world.
• 21:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's a new-ish thing and there's still obviously stuff that we learn all the time about sibo, but your GI doctor is trained to diagnose.
• 22:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: What you have, diagnose you with sibo.
• 22:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: Say you have IBS, whatever, not necessarily spend the time to help you figure out all the pieces of the puzzle.
• 22:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: So that's the first step.
• 22:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: The second step is going beyond that and understanding why, which is exactly what we do.
• 22:21
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• 22:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you're ready to finally feel better.
• 22:30
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• 22:33
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• 22:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: But thanks so much for listening to this miniseries.
• 22:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you loved it or if you have suggestions for another series, maybe like a candida series or whatever you think would be interesting, please reach out and let me know.
• 23:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I would love to plan some fun series coming up.
• 23:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: So if it gave you a new lens, um, hopefully a lot of clarity and.
• 23:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: The biggest thing.
• 23:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: Hopefully it gave you a whole lot of hope.
• 23:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: So thanks for joining and I'll catch you on the next episode of the Love Your Podcast.