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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor - The Ohio GOP - Politics as usual · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It is a thirty here fifty five KRCD talk station.
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  Speaker 1: As I adjust my zoom calls so I can see
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  Speaker 1: Jack Winsor. There you are, Jack, Good morning, Jack Winsortheihia
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  Speaker 1: Pressnetwork dot com. Check out what Jack follows throughout the
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  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Very well. Good reporting there from Jack Winsor.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to my friends. Good to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a little while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a little while, man, and it's good
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  Speaker 2: to be back. Thank you and Joe for being patient
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  Speaker 2: with me. It's always an honor to be with you
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  Speaker 2: in the fifty five kr see family.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have fun with it and primary results. Since
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  Speaker 1: you report on things all over the state of Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: let's just focus on the big one. A boy, he
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  Speaker 1: won it by a landslide. No problem with mister Putsch
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  Speaker 1: VvE ak Ramaswami seventy percent of the vote. He will
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  Speaker 1: be our next governor. I'm confident of that. Your reaction
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  Speaker 1: to that one are we looking for better times here
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio? Noting that I read this this morning, there
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  Speaker 1: was a report out about the gains that the Red
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  Speaker 1: States have made two plus trills for all the low regulation,
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  Speaker 1: low tax states like Florida and Texas, and a loss
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  Speaker 1: of two trillion dollars from states like California, New York.
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  Speaker 1: You know the usual suspects on that. Sadly, we were
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  Speaker 1: not among the winning states at voted for Trump. Ohio
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  Speaker 1: lost one hundred and six billion in people moving. So
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  Speaker 1: if that figure is correct, and I have no reason
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  Speaker 1: to argue about it since they got the information from
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  Speaker 1: the IRS, does vv Ramaswami represent a better path? I
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  Speaker 1: think I know the answer to that question, or at
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  Speaker 1: least I'm optimistic Jack.
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  Speaker 2: So first of all, yes, I think so, and there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of factors at play here. Though obviously
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  Speaker 2: the cook partisan voting in DEXs as Ohio are plus
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  Speaker 2: five and that's meaningful for Vake and Republicans. But we
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  Speaker 2: have to be real smart. It is a midterm election
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  Speaker 2: and the environment is difficult. So for listeners across Ohio
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  Speaker 2: who are kind of fed up with the radical lefts
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  Speaker 2: direction on spending, open borders, failing schools, filled with activism,
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  Speaker 2: cultural overrea, you just can't sit at home. You can't
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  Speaker 2: sit on your hands. And the vike Ramaswami won in
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  Speaker 2: all Lady eight counties, which is important that means that
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans got out. And you know, the Democrat nominee,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Amy Acton, is kind of a double edged sword here, right.
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  Speaker 2: She has tremendous name recognition because of her work as
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  Speaker 2: the Ohio Department of Health director during COVID, and because
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  Speaker 2: she was the Ohio Department of Health director during COVID,
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  Speaker 2: that may slice negatively for her too, So of course
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  Speaker 2: they're going to have to be very careful with how
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  Speaker 2: they market and brand her. But right now, I think
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  Speaker 2: all things being equal, the VIC represents a clear and
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  Speaker 2: distinguished path, right, and that's what voters are going to
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  Speaker 2: have to decide on. Even the case he puts supporters.
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  Speaker 2: Once they're done crying over the spilled milk, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to go, Okay, do I want to full on,
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  Speaker 2: heavy handed, top down socialist or do I want the
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  Speaker 2: vike Ramaswami. And at the end of the day, that's
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  Speaker 2: really what it's about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know that it goes exactly to the point
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  Speaker 1: I've been making about this concern over you know, the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: you know, win in Congress, and because of the current
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  Speaker 1: situation with the war in Iran and the gas price
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  Speaker 1: is going through the roof, and I just it strikes
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  Speaker 1: me as so counterintuitive. Okay, I'm not happy about paying
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  Speaker 1: five or six, as the case may be with premium gasoline.
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to live through this what will be some
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  Speaker 1: sort of finite moment in time the gas prices will
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  Speaker 1: ultimately come down. But that wouldn't cause me the high
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  Speaker 1: gas prices to want to vote against my best interests
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  Speaker 1: on literally everything else that the Democrats stand for. So
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  Speaker 1: I won't be a Democrat vote if I'm angry. But
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  Speaker 1: it's the problem is it may cause me to just
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  Speaker 1: simply not go vote. And I think that's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: challenge for Republicans. They got to put it behind him
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  Speaker 1: and get out and overwhelm the Democrats who will certainly
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  Speaker 1: be fired up over that and drive into the polls
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  Speaker 1: over that. And that couple with Trump arrangement syndrome, They've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot going for them just by really campaigning
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  Speaker 1: on nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's exactly right, And I think Democrats are saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: just don't vote for that team. And what it's going
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  Speaker 2: to come down to is once people go, Okay, you
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  Speaker 2: don't want me to vote for that team. But let's
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  Speaker 2: look at this team. I'm going to go back to
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  Speaker 2: what John Fetterman said a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the leader of the.
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Party Trump arrangement syndrome, and so is that enough
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  Speaker 2: to get them over the finish line? Now, real clear
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  Speaker 2: polling has Ramaswami plus one right now on average. Now
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  Speaker 2: we expect more polls to come out very soon because
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  Speaker 2: there's fresh data from the midterms.
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  Speaker 3: But look at the Calshi market. It has acting up
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty five to forty six. So all indicators are that
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  Speaker 2: this will be a tight contest. It's going to come
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  Speaker 2: down to the economy, gas and grocery prices, and then
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  Speaker 2: turn out dynamics and then what are the head wins nationally?
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Trump is underwater and he's carried Ohio most
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  Speaker 2: recently by eleven plus points. When you add in the
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  Speaker 2: R plus five, that seems favorable. But if groceries are high,
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  Speaker 2: if gas is high, if people are disgruntled with Iran,
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  Speaker 2: then I think it makes it a more competitive race.
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  Speaker 2: But really it comes down to again candidate contrast, who
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  Speaker 2: is Amy acting? Who who is Vivike Ramaswami And Ramaswami
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  Speaker 2: is somebody who's made some bold promises about the future
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  Speaker 2: of state government, about spending, and about innovation. And if
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  Speaker 2: voters buy that, I think he wins by five. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to give you that prediction out of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: If not, it could be we could be looking at
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  Speaker 2: Governor Amy Acton.
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  Speaker 1: Amy Lockdown Acted. What is she advocating for? What's her
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  Speaker 1: party platform other than you know, she's not Vegue Ramaswamy,
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  Speaker 1: Man of color.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the interesting part, right, and we'll have
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  Speaker 2: this quick discussion. She's campaigning on affordability. And anyone who
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  Speaker 2: peels the curtain back and looks you go, well, wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute. Democrats systemically have created this affordability crisis.
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  Speaker 3: So how are you going to solve that problem? And oh,
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  Speaker 3: by the.
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  Speaker 2: Way, you made sixty two cents in interest income last year,
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  Speaker 2: So maybe the issue with affordability for you, Amy Acton,
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  Speaker 2: isn't affordability. Maybe it's that you don't make enough money, right,
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  Speaker 2: And Vivike Ramaswami is out here creating multimillion and billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar businesses, and I think that is a very cheeky
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  Speaker 2: way to say it, but it is a very stark contrast.
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  Speaker 3: But affordability is one.
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  Speaker 2: Issue, and so you go, Okay, it sounds good, but
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  Speaker 2: do you have the competence to change that? I think
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  Speaker 2: people will question that. And then the other way that
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  Speaker 2: she's positioning herself. Brian is a doctor and not a politician.
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  Speaker 2: And you go, well, a good, Okay, that sounds good
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  Speaker 2: on paper, but why are you walking arm in arm
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  Speaker 2: with Mark Elias and the Elias Slag Group out of Washington,
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  Speaker 2: d C. Which is Hillary Clinton's twenty sixteen campaign attorney.
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  Speaker 2: So you talk about not being an insider, yet you've
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  Speaker 2: selected as your law firm the most inside DC Democrat
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  Speaker 2: law firm there is. So there's not alignment there between
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  Speaker 2: what she's saying and what she's actually doing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll pause. We'll bring Jack Winsor from the
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  Speaker 1: Islepetpressnetwork dot com back. We'll talk about Attorney General Yos
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  Speaker 1: dropping his current position and moving on to an outside
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  Speaker 1: law firm to do some political advocacy. His reaction to
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  Speaker 1: that coming.
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  Speaker 3: Up the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: It is eight fifty one If if you have KCD
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  Speaker 1: talk station Ron Thomas with Jack wins from Theisle Preussnetwork
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Check out what's going on his website every
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  Speaker 1: single day and tune in on a Fridays when he
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  Speaker 1: joins us to talk about these issues. Pivoting over, We've
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  Speaker 1: got David Yose stepping down from his position and joining
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  Speaker 1: a new organization, or actually not a new organization. It's
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  Speaker 1: the Alliance Defending Freedom. It's a just conservative organization, kind
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  Speaker 1: of a nonprofit law firm that helps it helps out
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  Speaker 1: and advocates for conservative principles.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything we need to read?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I don't have a problem with
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  Speaker 1: him going on to probably a more lucrative career position.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be doing some legal work for that group.
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  Speaker 1: It's in line with his political philosophy the work they do,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess it makes sense along those lines. But
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  Speaker 1: is there something we need to read into this regarding
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  Speaker 1: the timing? What do you think there, Jack winsor.
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  Speaker 2: There are no coincidences in politics, sir, And that's number one.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm going to go back to two things can
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  Speaker 2: be true. Right, So, after more than two decades serving
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  Speaker 2: Ohio taxpayers in elected office, Davios, I think is making
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  Speaker 2: a move that makes perfect sense and a personal level.
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  Speaker 2: So he's going to step into that senior role at
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  Speaker 2: an organization that's been extraordinarily effective at winning major constitutional
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  Speaker 2: battles in the nation's highest court, and that kind of
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  Speaker 2: experience for him going into that kind of experience and
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  Speaker 2: the kind of experience that they're getting with Dave Yost,
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  Speaker 2: I think is a really good fit. And he's just
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  Speaker 2: going to make more money good for Dave Yost at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, and this is where politics gets interesting.
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  Speaker 2: The timing creates a clean succession path, right, So Governor
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  Speaker 2: Dwine now is forced to appoint someone to fill that
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  Speaker 2: AG's position.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the interesting twist.
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  Speaker 2: He can now appoint the very candidates Republicans just nominated
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday into the open state wide offices. Faber could
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  Speaker 2: move from auditor to ag Larrose from Secretary of State
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  Speaker 2: to auditor, Sprague from Treasurer to Secretary of State, and
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  Speaker 2: then Edward's into that treasurer's office. I think most politicos say, well, yes,
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  Speaker 2: this helps Yost, But Yost, in a final salute, is
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  Speaker 2: helped the Republican Party by opening that seat and allowing
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  Speaker 2: that cascade of appointees.
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  Speaker 1: I must observe, Jack windsor you just rotted off a
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  Speaker 1: very very familiar group of names. I know it's something
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  Speaker 1: that that in and of itself will rub some of
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  Speaker 1: my listening audience the wrong way. Your take on that.
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  Speaker 2: I listen, I agree, right, and I think some people go,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's musical chairs. Yeah right, But here's
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  Speaker 2: what it comes down to. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: you have some choices to make, and for ag do
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  Speaker 2: you want Keith Faber or John Coolewicks? Do you want
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  Speaker 2: Robert Sprague or Alison Russo as Secretary of State? And
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  Speaker 2: so I think Republicans are doing things strategically that Democrats
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  Speaker 2: would do without a blink, right, They're doing the thing
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  Speaker 2: that will give them a slight edge, because, let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: when somebody is an incumbent and they can run for
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  Speaker 2: a position from an incumbency, I think that gives them
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  Speaker 2: a slight edge. Might not be big, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of something. And I think Republicans are trying
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  Speaker 2: to take every advantage here they can get. I know
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  Speaker 2: that that rubs some really strict constitutionalists in people who
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  Speaker 2: are just you know, very conservative at the core.
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  Speaker 3: I know that rubs them the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes you gotta what did they say
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  Speaker 2: in that movie what Tom Cruise say, Rubbing is racing
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta rub Man.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, I get all the political points and
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  Speaker 1: the realities and the strategy behind it, but you know what,
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  Speaker 1: there's got to be some backbenchers, some names back there
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  Speaker 1: that may ring a little familiar, but be good next
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  Speaker 1: generation people who will then take over the role of
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  Speaker 1: getting elected elected, elected, elected over and over again and
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  Speaker 1: play musical chairs. Somebody's got to take over and take
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  Speaker 1: the mantle from the current cast of characters we just
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  Speaker 1: left putting. By appointment, you give that person with less
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  Speaker 1: name recognition, of course, an opportunity to build their name
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  Speaker 1: recognition and to demonstrate that they're the competent right person
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  Speaker 1: for the job, satisfying everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps, you know what, I can't argue with that strategy,
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  Speaker 2: because the other candidates that we just mentioned, if there
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  Speaker 2: is not this cascade of appointments, they've built their brand right,
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  Speaker 2: they have name recognition, they've wanted state wide office. And
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  Speaker 2: so what you're saying is let them win that office
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  Speaker 2: on their merits, Let's bring in the new blood, let's
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  Speaker 2: let the young team kind of come in and establish themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And I think when you're looking long term, that probably
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  Speaker 2: makes the best sense. But you and I both know
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  Speaker 2: politics is what what have you done for me lately?
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  Speaker 2: And what do we need to do in the next
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  Speaker 2: six months? And I think that's probably what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, let's hold you over a little bit longer
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  Speaker 1: in this segment, then we'll let you go. Jack Windsor,
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  Speaker 1: I had a question for you on the reaction about
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  Speaker 1: Governor Mike Brown in Indiana rolling back the gas and
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  Speaker 1: sales tax that result in a fifty nine point three
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  Speaker 1: cent drop in price for over and for folks over
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  Speaker 1: in Indiana. Governor Bisher also froze state's gas tax and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to result in a I don't know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: six twenty seven percent reduction. And both of them pointed out, well,
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  Speaker 1: we both have a lot of revenue coming in, and
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot of money in our general fund,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the rainy day funds, billions and billions of dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and we have that here in Ohio, and you, Governor
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  Speaker 1: de Wine said no, I'm not going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I care too much about the roads. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that's a good strategy to roll back to tax just
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  Speaker 1: on its face? And what do you say about Governor
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  Speaker 1: de Wine is saying absolutely no to it.
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  Speaker 2: I say about Governor Dwaine saying absolutely no to it,
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  Speaker 2: that does not surprise me. He is a Democrat in
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  Speaker 2: Republican clothing. He loves big government programs, he loves to
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  Speaker 2: go hand out checks. He likes to be the benevolent
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  Speaker 2: grampa who thinks he's fixing everything. So that's no surprise
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  Speaker 2: to me. I think it comes down to is it
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  Speaker 2: a good decision. Well, Ohio is such a complex state.
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  Speaker 2: You know this, So I'm not going to get too
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  Speaker 2: much in the weeds on this because of the way
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  Speaker 2: that taxing authorities exist. You know, the gas tax is
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  Speaker 2: collected and then it's distributed, and you know it does
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  Speaker 2: help with roads and so on and so forth. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just not convinced that a three month pause is going
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  Speaker 2: to throw a massive monkey wrench into that. And I
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  Speaker 2: look at it and say, why wouldn't you, even if
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  Speaker 2: for window dressing, right, why wouldn't you for the next
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  Speaker 2: three months suspend this thing, appease members of your party
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  Speaker 2: who are trying to help voters who are screaming do something.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not Mike Dwine.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Dwine is always the smartest guy in the room,
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  Speaker 2: and he's going to go his way, and if you
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  Speaker 2: don't like it, he'll yell at you behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 1: I had someone asked me the day on the issue
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  Speaker 1: of taxes, pivoting over briefly here to property taxes, Jack
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  Speaker 1: Wins with the ballot petition circulating to amend the Constitution
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  Speaker 1: of the State of Ohio to eliminate property tax. You know,
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  Speaker 1: are you in favor against that? Brian and said half
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  Speaker 1: of me. I'm in favor of it, just because of
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  Speaker 1: the train wreck that will follow up and the how
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  Speaker 1: much it is going to force our elected officials to
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  Speaker 1: actually do something in the aftermath of being taken having
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  Speaker 1: the property tax taken away from them.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The correlator to that is I know all those problems
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  Speaker 1: and they are going to be concerning and difficult to overcome.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't have a problem paying my tax bills,
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  Speaker 1: so I can afford to sort of play, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the impish guy who wants to see a train
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  Speaker 1: wreck just to see what happens. Jack, what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: You know what the first thought that comes to my
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  Speaker 2: mind is necessity is the mother of invention. When you
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  Speaker 2: move the cheese and they no longer have cheese, They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna find their cheese. That's just that's the bottom line. Now,
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  Speaker 2: everybody loves change, they hate transition. The transition's gonna suck.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are over four thousand taxing authorities, so
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have to figure out how to find their cheese.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go back to this. Do you remember what happened during COVID, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Governor and Amy Acton looked at you and said, tough, tough, titty.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like it, we're gonna close your business.
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  Speaker 3: Figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Governor, I want unemployment, but the system's broken. It's
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  Speaker 2: been six months since I've been paid. Tough, Okay, well
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  Speaker 2: it's turnabout's fair play, right. I don't have a hard
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  Speaker 2: time looking at folks and going, oh, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: the money, tough, figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you were elected. I know that's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit probably.
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  Speaker 2: Cheeky, but again, at the end of the day, it's
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  Speaker 2: not their money, it's our money. It's not their power,
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  Speaker 2: it's our power. And at some point we have to
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  Speaker 2: stand up and go Okay, enough is enough. And if
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  Speaker 2: you can't figure it out out, let's get somebody in
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  Speaker 2: that office who can figure it out, because that's why
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  Speaker 2: you're elected.
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  Speaker 3: Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Wins are always a fun conversation with you, and of
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  Speaker 1: course they're report over at the Iilepressnetwork dot COM's excellent.
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  Speaker 1: I check on it all the time and appreciate what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing there. We'll talk again real soon, Jack, and
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  Speaker 1: have a wonderful Mother's Day, weekend, and a wonderful week generally, speaking.
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  Speaker 3: To my friend YouTube brother, God bless you, thank you
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  Speaker 3: so and
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• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the talk station, A little bit left, stick around fifty
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: five