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Where Does The War Go From Here? · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 2: F All right, let me.
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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit into something one of my pet
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Speaker 1: stories I like international geopolitics.
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Speaker 2: If you've been listening to this show.
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Speaker 1: At all over the years, and obviously the big deal
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Speaker 1: geopolitically is the Iran war right now, in this strait
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Speaker 1: of horror, moves being shut down and we may be
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Speaker 1: reaching another pivot. The two sides have returned to fighting
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Speaker 1: this month, and it doesn't look like either side is
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Speaker 1: gaining a strategic advantage other than if it looks like
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Speaker 1: the Iranians are willing to hold out. They've won the
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Speaker 1: war as far as they're concerned. Usually when the United
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Speaker 1: States has overwhelming military power, which it does, any just
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Speaker 1: surviving that is a win.
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Speaker 2: Same thing with.
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Speaker 1: Palestinians and Gaza and hamas with Israel. You survive, you've won.
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Speaker 1: And that seems to be the thinking. We don't think that,
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Speaker 1: but that is what's happening right now. And the main
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Speaker 1: movement it's happening right now is the wavering support among
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Speaker 1: the few US supporters. Even those that are supporting are
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Speaker 1: now wavering, and US operations are on hold. Quote that's
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Speaker 1: a Defense Department source told CNN after nearly two weeks
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Speaker 1: of nightly strikes.
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Speaker 2: And what the.
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Speaker 1: Trump administration has done, it has had flirted. It says
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Speaker 1: we may escalate without escalating. There's a lot of talk
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Speaker 1: and sometimes not a lot of action. And for people
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Speaker 1: who are adamantly pro insanely sycophantic towards Trump, for example,
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Speaker 1: Fox News host Laura Ingram even she said the clock
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Speaker 1: is ticking for President Trump to get out of this
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Speaker 1: war before voters head to the polls. It's making a
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Speaker 1: lot of Republicans nervous. Republicans cannot let this become an
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Speaker 1: endless distraction, especially if they want to win in November.
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Speaker 1: And here's the problem with the president. The president is
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Speaker 1: talking about the nuclear capabilities of Iran. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how many people actually care at this point,
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Speaker 1: because they care about the cost of gasoline and the
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Speaker 1: price of hamburger meat far more. And then what Trump's
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Speaker 1: starting to do is talk about the evils of communism.
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Speaker 1: That's the problem. The biggest threat we have in the
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Speaker 1: United States is communism. Does anybody give a rats ass
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Speaker 1: about communism? Are we back in the fifties, or do
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Speaker 1: we care more about the price of gas. Do we
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Speaker 1: care more about the price of living, affordability housing? And
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Speaker 1: I think that the administration is missing that. Even Mike Johnson,
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Speaker 1: who is Donald Trump's lap dog, sid heel, here's a treat,
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Speaker 1: here's a treat. We'll say anything that Trump advocates, even
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Speaker 1: he says, we've now got to wrap it up in
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Speaker 1: the meantime, Bill Cassidy is Republicans staunch Republican of Louisiana
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Speaker 1: said on CNN State of the Union. In my mind,
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Speaker 1: the president has had the opportunity to achieve the initial
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Speaker 1: goals which I agreed with, to wrap it up, and
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Speaker 1: it's not happening at this point at all.
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Speaker 2: And here is the problem.
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Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be a great way for the
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Speaker 1: president to wrap it up.
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 1: Iran isn't interested. And even the peace agreement that came down,
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Speaker 1: the memorandum of understanding, which was pretty vague and it
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Speaker 1: was pretty favorable to them. No, they're not interested, just
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Speaker 1: not coming to the table. And so here is the questions.
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Speaker 1: Are Republicans prepared to push Trump to get out if
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Speaker 1: there's no nuclear deal? Keep in mind the Republicans in
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Speaker 1: Congress are for the most part, in lockstep. If the
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Speaker 1: president wants war powers, they give it to him. If
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Speaker 1: the President says I have the powers, even if the
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Speaker 1: Constitution says no, they vote for him. They vote any
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Speaker 1: literally anything he wants, he gets the Republican vote. Even now, well,
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Speaker 1: hang on a minute, Hang on a minute. So as
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Speaker 1: we're looking at more Republicans suggesting it is time to
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Speaker 1: get out, regardless of a deal.
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Speaker 2: Or with the issue of the Strait.
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Speaker 1: Of Hormuz not being dealt with unsettled, it's obvious they
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Speaker 1: mean they are terrified of the politics of this. Midterms
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Speaker 1: are coming up, and they are terrified. And can you
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Speaker 1: imagine what it's going to be like if the war
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Speaker 1: comes in, if it stays for another three months, What's
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Speaker 1: going to happen to the Republicans that are running for office?
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Speaker 1: Because if I were a Democrat, all I would do
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Speaker 1: is run ads saying we're still there, look at your prices,
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Speaker 1: look at what's going on with the war, and then
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Speaker 1: have the Republican at some point, at some rally be
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Speaker 1: videoed saying the President is right. I back up the
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Speaker 1: President no matter what I believe in, what the president
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Speaker 1: is doing okay, and so then the ad ends with
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Speaker 1: why don't you believe that next time you go to
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Speaker 1: the pump or why don't you do that as next
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Speaker 1: time that you can't afford Hamburger and you end up
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Speaker 1: buying gristle?
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Speaker 2: Who buys gristle? Do they even sell gristle? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they sell gristle, but if they're
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Speaker 1: going to the point is this war is killing the
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Speaker 1: United States, both geopolitically, our reputation, our relationship with other countries,
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Speaker 1: with other peoples around the world, and at this point
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Speaker 1: the President doesn't seem to be backing down, except he
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Speaker 1: does because here we are Monday at seven fourteen, and
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Speaker 1: by eight fourteen our policy will change.
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Speaker 3: You watch you're listening to Bill Handle on demand from
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Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty.
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Speaker 1: It's hot and it's shits also, and then the rest
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Speaker 1: of the world while Europe's on fire, France and Spain.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's biggest. It's crazy. When you see those
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Speaker 1: flames and we're watching video of it. The flames are
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Speaker 1: so intense and there are so many of them that
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Speaker 1: it literally is creating its own, its own weather. I mean,
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Speaker 1: when you go this crazy. The flames can create its
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Speaker 1: own weather, and that's what's happening. And I'm going to
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Speaker 1: talk more about that at eight fifty. How France is
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Speaker 1: dealing with this and how we are so different here
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Speaker 1: in the United States and a couple of big areas.
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Speaker 2: So I'll talk about that later on.
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's finish up the issue of the
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Speaker 1: Iran war and what is going on right now. Well,
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Speaker 1: Republicans are really starting to sweat bullets with the political
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Speaker 1: fallout of the war. The President has said that the
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Speaker 1: midterms won't have any impact on me. Yeah, they won't
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Speaker 1: because he is out of office now. There may be
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Speaker 1: one or two Republicans that would like him to be
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Speaker 1: concerned about midterms. And I think that was just a
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Speaker 1: throwaway line. One of the things the president does is
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Speaker 1: a shoot from the hip, and a lot of it
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Speaker 1: is he just throws things out there without really thinking
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Speaker 1: them through, much like a talk show host here on KFI,
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Speaker 1: where you speak before you think. The difference is that
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Speaker 1: he is the president. So I mean, do I take him?
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Speaker 1: Do I take him seriously when he says he doesn't
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Speaker 1: care about the midterms? Now, I think he cares plenty,
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Speaker 1: and he is worried. He's particularly worried about the troop deaths,
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Speaker 1: and I think he is worried about what will happen
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Speaker 1: to American troops. He's talking about invading carg Island, which
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Speaker 1: is the big which is the big center for exporting
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Speaker 1: oil from Iran, which I think card is responsible for
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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the oil the oil that is sent
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Speaker 1: out from Iran. I mean, that is the big one.
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Speaker 1: And he takes that over what's going to end up happening.
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Speaker 1: He has to do that with troops, and once he
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Speaker 1: puts troops on the ground, this thing is going to
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Speaker 1: blow up like you cannot imagine blowing up. Right now,
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Speaker 1: we've got what eighteen deaths, and that hasn't gotten as
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Speaker 1: much attention as I thought it would. And one of
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Speaker 1: the other things he has done which I find kind
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Speaker 1: of interesting, and Hegseth has said this also, is that
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Speaker 1: if you look at the number of deaths and the
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Speaker 1: length of the war, it compares very favorably with other
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Speaker 1: wars that we've been involved with were World War two
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Speaker 1: two years, Vietnam nine years, Afghanistan twenty years. So this
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Speaker 1: is only a few months. And then when asked, but
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, the President said two to four weeks.
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Speaker 1: You said two to four weeks. You agreed with that,
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Speaker 1: and we've obliterated their nuclear facilities. Well, then why are
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Speaker 1: we still going after their nuclear facilities? We destroyed them militarily.
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Speaker 1: Why are we still doing this? We won the war
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Speaker 1: in the first hour. Okay, why are we still fighting
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Speaker 1: the war? It's they're desperate to have a peace deal.
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Speaker 1: They're coming to the table. The Iranians are desperate and
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Speaker 1: will decide when wait a minute, the straight of hormone oz.
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Speaker 1: We control the Strait of Hormuz, not the Iranians. Well,
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Speaker 1: then why aren't ships passing through? I mean, over and
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Speaker 1: over again. We're getting a lot of messages and it
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Speaker 1: is not resonating with the American people, or it is
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Speaker 1: in a very negative way. And the problem for the
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Speaker 1: president and particularly the Republican members of Congress, Senate who
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Speaker 1: are running for office, governor's state legislators who are running
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Speaker 1: for office. The more they back up the president, I think,
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Speaker 1: the more frightened they are. And it's legitimate. How is
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Speaker 1: this going to effect us now? Is that enough to
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Speaker 1: have the votes turn what he is doing around?
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Speaker 2: Nope? Nope.
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Speaker 1: The Republican Party. He owns it to such an extent.
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Speaker 1: When he says I want you to vote yes or no,
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Speaker 1: they vote War Powers Act. Congress wants to limit his
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Speaker 1: ability to engage in war for more than sixty days. Nope,
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Speaker 1: Republicans and say absolutely not if the President wants to
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Speaker 1: continue on with the war.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, they are all kinds.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get even into this because there's
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Speaker 1: so many aspects of that. And on Thursday, the President
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Speaker 1: said he's considering a massive attack, bigger than ever before
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Speaker 1: on Iran if they don't have a deal, if the
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Speaker 1: strait doesn't opened up.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: That was Thursday, and then over the weekend he said, okay,
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Speaker 1: hold on a minute, We're not going to have the attack,
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Speaker 1: which is not unusual for the President changes his mind
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Speaker 1: every five minutes. US and Bachasor of the United Nations
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Speaker 1: Michael Waltz said that the reason the President pulled back
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Speaker 1: is he's giving the.
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Speaker 2: Talks more space.
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Speaker 1: And then we have the issue of the size of
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Speaker 1: US munitions stockpile. The Vice President and Joint chiefs of
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Speaker 1: Staff Chairman General Dan Kaine have raised concerns about are
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Speaker 1: the stockpile of music munitions, particularly missiles and anti missile
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Speaker 1: missiles that we have, and the concern is, man, we're
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Speaker 1: really dwindling. Nope, Nope, we are absolutely Who was it
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. I think it was on face the
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Speaker 1: Nations one of the top military people said no, no,
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Speaker 1: that's just not true.
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Speaker 2: We have plenty.
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Speaker 1: I think it was the ambassador Walls who said, that's
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Speaker 1: just not true. We have plenty of munitions. So even
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Speaker 1: within the administration, it's going back and forth.
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Speaker 2: So here's the question.
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Speaker 1: When this ends, no matter how it ends, both sides
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Speaker 1: are going to declare victory. The Strait of Hormuz when
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Speaker 1: it is opened, the President will declare victory. You see,
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Speaker 1: I got the Strait of horm moves opened and the
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Speaker 1: world should thank me for it.
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Speaker 2: And you will not hear a mention with Before.
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Speaker 1: You started the war, the strait was open, it was
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Speaker 1: a free international waterway. And all this is done is
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Speaker 1: proved to the Iranians they can hold the world economy
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Speaker 1: at risk. They literally can control a lot of the
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Speaker 1: global economy simply by shutting down the street. And it
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Speaker 1: never occurred to them before. They always left it open
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Speaker 1: no matter what. So a lot's going wrong right now,
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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. Is there going to be
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Speaker 1: an escalation? You know, I don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the president has changed his mind so many
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Speaker 1: times over the last few weeks. Is he going to well?
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Speaker 1: From last Thursday to this past weekend, the switch came
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Speaker 1: from yeah, a huge attack to no, I'm holding off
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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. Because the peace talks are
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Speaker 1: going nowhere because the Iranians are willing to pay play
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Speaker 1: the long game. The Iranians do not have to worry
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Speaker 1: about political fallout.
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Speaker 2: They don't care.
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Speaker 1: The IRCG, the Revolutionary Guard and the Mulahs do not
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Speaker 1: care how many people are killed or how many people starve.
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Speaker 1: All they care about is and uprising among the people
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Speaker 1: of Iran. And they have all the guns right. The
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Speaker 1: Guard and well, particularly the Guard and the Army has
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Speaker 1: all the weapons enter and no hesitancy in using them
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Speaker 1: against their own people.
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Speaker 1: It's going to heat right back up, and the eastern
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Speaker 1: seaboard Midwest is going crazy in the country and overseas
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Speaker 1: Spain and France. It is completely insane with the wildfires.
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Speaker 1: At at eight fifty, I'm going to talk about why Spain,
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Speaker 1: why Europe, particularly France, is looking at Spain and how
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Speaker 1: they deal with the heat, because that is a problem
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Speaker 1: for Europe big time. Now, okay, now, question about in
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Speaker 1: and out. Most people I know love in and out Burger.
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Speaker 1: In and Out is there's an in and Out Burger
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Speaker 1: near me, maybe a quarter mile away, and it is
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Speaker 1: the closest fast food establishment near my house. And frankly,
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Speaker 1: I never thought i'd hear this from me. I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of sick of it because I ate at in and
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Speaker 1: out so much when I first moved into my place.
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Speaker 1: And what is it about in and out that is
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Speaker 1: so significant? Well, in and out basically created the drive
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Speaker 1: through and in and out. And we talk about fast food.
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Speaker 1: It is fast, to say the least. And it's cooked
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Speaker 1: to order, that's the other thing. That's the only fast
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Speaker 1: food chain I know where you order and then they
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Speaker 1: put the burger on the grill per your order, and so.
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Speaker 2: It really is. It's a huge success story, as it
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Speaker 2: should be. Now.
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Speaker 1: The drive through part of it is far bigger than
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Speaker 1: is the sit in part. Although I always go into
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Speaker 1: the restaurant as opposed to sitting in line on that
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Speaker 1: drive through, because that one drives you nuts. You wait
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Speaker 1: so long where you go in saw, even if there's
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Speaker 1: a line that goes much much quicker, but you have
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Speaker 1: to eat with people, and you have that wonderful smell
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Speaker 1: of all of that, the French fries, the sort of
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Speaker 1: greasy hamburger French fries smell.
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Speaker 2: I kind of like it.
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Speaker 1: I find it very exciting. I usually get an erection
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Speaker 1: whenever I feel that I smell that. Any case, C
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Speaker 1: and I is proposing a mega drive through in Culver
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Speaker 1: City at a big intersection, and the Culver City is
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Speaker 1: pushing back big time traffic pollution, safety concerns at a
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Speaker 1: nearby elementary school, and residents of Culver City organize a
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Speaker 1: position drive and they pack city meetings and actually prompted
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Speaker 1: a ten month extension of a temporary ban. And what
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Speaker 1: this fight is about is it really taps into a
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Speaker 1: wider rethinking of drive throughs across California. Because where the
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Speaker 1: fights well, convenience and accessibility against walkability, air quality, and neighborhoods,
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Speaker 1: social life. There's the fight now in and out has
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Speaker 1: really exploded and expanding rapidly and there is no such
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Speaker 1: thing as an in and out that is not a
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Speaker 1: drive through. Now there are such things as drive throughs
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Speaker 1: that don't have restaurants. The smaller one original ones I
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Speaker 1: saw you do is drive through, and of course, as
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Speaker 1: it expanded, they also have sit in where they're kind
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Speaker 1: of neat. They have that iconic in and out burger interior.
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Speaker 1: So In and Out approached Culver City when they were
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Speaker 1: interested in opening one of these new drive through restaurants
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Speaker 1: and a mega drive through, and it sparked a backlash immediately.
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Speaker 1: Residents were concerning about pollution, traffic, congestion, the dangers of
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Speaker 1: drivers around kids, of course the aroma of frying food,
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Speaker 1: which I got into. And so the city council imposed
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Speaker 1: a moratorium on new drive throughs. And there is a
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Speaker 1: big controversy going out where the entire issue of drive
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Speaker 1: throughs are being concerned. Now what ended up happening, The pandemic,
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Speaker 1: of course boosted the concept that drive through is even
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Speaker 1: more because that was a low risk, low contact way
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Speaker 1: to get food.
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Speaker 2: And as I told you, the first drive through.
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Speaker 1: In California was an in and out in Baldoen Park
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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight, and by the nineteen sixties, drive
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Speaker 1: throughs had already begun to shape reshape the entire American landscape,
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Speaker 1: and so at a recent city council meeting in Culver
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Speaker 1: City that this issue is being discussed, residents took the
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Speaker 1: mic one by one to speak passionately on an issue,
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Speaker 1: most of them saying, we do not want and in
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Speaker 1: and out mega drive through in our city, especially where
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Speaker 1: it would be built corners of Pulvin and sat Tell Boulevards.
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Speaker 1: The intersection is already considered one of the worst in
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Speaker 1: the city, most traffic clogged intersections, and there's an elementary
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Speaker 1: school just a stone throwaway, and parents are worried that
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Speaker 1: the intersection, which already has a ton of accidents, will
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Speaker 1: become more unsafe. One of the residents told the council
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Speaker 1: drive throughs are pollution monsters, they are obsolete, and I
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Speaker 1: guess to some extent they are. But let me give
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Speaker 1: you the other side of this that the proponents of
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Speaker 1: the megam the mega drive through is about, and that
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Speaker 1: is that you have people who are disabled, You have
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Speaker 1: kids that you can keep in the car, you are abayable,
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Speaker 1: have the ability to control the environment, the privacy, you
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Speaker 1: want all of that is through the drive through. On
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Speaker 1: the other hand, look at the pollution, and that's the
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Speaker 1: big one, is the pollution and the traffic congestion. That
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Speaker 1: is something that's we talked about a whole lot. So
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Speaker 1: we started In and Out started the craze of these
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Speaker 1: drive throughs, and it exploded throughout the United States, and
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Speaker 1: now it's turning the other way because maybe too much
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Speaker 1: of a success is maybe too much of a success.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you guys are.
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Speaker 1: Fans of In and Out. Let me go around the
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Speaker 1: word room survey says Amy, In and Out yes or no? Yes,
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Speaker 1: Oh you're a big fan. Will I'm not a big fan,
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Speaker 1: but you go okay, Yeah, it's a cult in many ways.
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Speaker 2: Will, In and Out.
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Speaker 1: There's one right around the corner, so you go to
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Speaker 1: that one, and then as soon as you're finished with
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Speaker 1: the food, you go to the one down the corner,
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Speaker 1: down the other side of the street and have another burger.
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Speaker 2: I understand that.
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Speaker 1: And In and Out Burger, Yeah absolutely, okay, Elmer In
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Speaker 1: and Out Burger.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, also a fan. See that's wow. Everybody loves In
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Speaker 2: and Out Burger. Mixed reviews on the fries exactly. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: fries are.
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Speaker 1: Great, but only when you bring them to the table
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Speaker 1: hot hot, hot, they're pretty immediately and meet them immediately.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise it's right well done, that's what I ask.
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Speaker 1: Uh. They go south pretty quickly, and you're right, you
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Speaker 1: can do well done, but they still go soggy immediately.
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Speaker 1: The burgers, on the other hand, hold up very nicely
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Speaker 1: because the buns are steamed and they are grilled on
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Speaker 1: one side, and it's just it's good stuff. And my
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Speaker 1: to go is the double double fries, extra onions on
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Speaker 1: the burger and a drink.
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Speaker 3: am six forty.
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Speaker 2: Keat Dome is here. We've got Amy laughing at me
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Speaker 2: as she does on a regular basis.
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Speaker 4: Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, you.
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Speaker 1: Know my head is already, you know, halfway through the week.
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Speaker 1: And the temperature. I'm gonna go to you every once
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Speaker 1: in a while, Amy, because the weather is so insane.
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Speaker 1: The heat wave is here is hot, it's muggy, it's
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Speaker 1: the Schwitz it is.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be hot if you look for if you're
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Speaker 4: looking for a break from the heat, beaches still gonna
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Speaker 4: be eighty maybe even low eighties. Inland areas up to
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Speaker 4: about one o three yep.
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Speaker 1: And if you go to the beach, a couple things
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Speaker 1: are gonna happen. There's a good chance you're going to
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Speaker 1: be eaten by a shark, which is a lot of fun.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I've got a really fun story about that in
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Speaker 4: the news.
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Speaker 1: All that be caught in a rip tide go out
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Speaker 1: there and drown. And if you stay in there's nothing
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Speaker 1: like sand on the crack of your butt to really
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Speaker 1: make you feel good. It's like sand paper, you know.
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Speaker 1: When I go to the hardware store, I go, what
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Speaker 1: is the best sandpaper that I can rub on the
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Speaker 1: crap about the crack of my butt to really make
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Speaker 1: it as authentic as possible. Okay, now we're doing stories.
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Speaker 1: How many bears we're now finding? You know, every it
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Speaker 1: seems like every other day there is a big of
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Speaker 1: some bear going into someone's backyard and we talk about
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Speaker 1: their habitat being becoming less and less available to them
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Speaker 1: because of building, etc. Well, what you're seeing is black
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Speaker 1: bears on the news. You're not seeing grizzly bears. Grizzly
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Speaker 1: bears are well, look at the California state flag. What
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Speaker 1: do you see You see a grizzly bear on the
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Speaker 1: state flag. Grizzly bears used to be in California. They
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Speaker 1: once lived across most of California. The experts say maybe
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Speaker 1: ten thousand of them were Rome before the gold Rush
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Speaker 1: and then what ended up happening, California settlers tried to
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Speaker 1: initially form their own nation became obviously one of the states,
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Speaker 1: and they called.
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Speaker 2: It the Bear Flag Republic. Hu huh.
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Speaker 1: So settlers exterminated the animals. They were gone by the
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Speaker 1: twenties and the only smaller black bear is the surviving
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Speaker 1: the bear species here in the state. Well, there's a
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Speaker 1: move now going the other way. Democratic Senator Laura Richardson
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Speaker 1: of where is He from Englewood Now introduced a bill
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Speaker 1: that would take California Department Fishing Wildlife to create a
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Speaker 1: road map that evaluates whether the introduction reintroduction of the
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Speaker 1: grizzly bear is feasible and advisable. Are we going to
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Speaker 1: bring back the grizzly bears because they really are big.
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Speaker 1: If you think black bears eat people, man, you should
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Speaker 1: see how many grizzly bear can eat now right now,
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Speaker 1: no funding need and carry out the study. But there
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Speaker 1: are two sides to this one, because, of course you
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Speaker 1: have the environmentalists. You have folks that want the grizzly
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Speaker 1: bear returning because it's native to California. It's been here
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Speaker 1: and it was wiped out here. It's like the bison
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Speaker 1: being reintroduced in the United States. I mean, the bison
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Speaker 1: were at a time they weren't about to become extinct,
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Speaker 1: but they were endangered no longer. Now you have bison
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Speaker 1: herds like crazy, and so. On one side, you've got
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Speaker 1: rural commuting communities, hunting organizations, ranchers, and they argue, you
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Speaker 1: do not want to bring back these eight hundred pound bears,
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Speaker 1: especially when we have a degraded rout and fire landscape
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Speaker 1: and rural areas are already overwhelmed mountain lions, growing black bears,
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Speaker 1: wolf populations.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just full of predators. We don't need
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Speaker 2: another one.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got forty groups, including tribes, environmentalists, of course,
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Speaker 1: animal welfare organizations say oh yeah, we want to bring
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Speaker 1: back the biggest land predator that would improve the ecosystem
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Speaker 1: and right the ecological wrong from California's past. Why because
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Speaker 1: grizzlies were part of our past and the argument is
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Speaker 1: they help the environment. How do they help the environment? Well,
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Speaker 1: they claw up the dirt much like a rake, and
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Speaker 1: therefore the land becomes more productive. And then grizzlies, well
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Speaker 1: they crap like grizzlies. When they take a dump, it's
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Speaker 1: a dump in.
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Speaker 2: A big way.
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Speaker 1: And for some reason these environmentalists or the tribes think
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Speaker 1: that that's really going to help.
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Speaker 2: The environment big time.
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Speaker 1: But they do look at the grizzlies as being part
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Speaker 1: of their religion and their culture, where grizzlies did play
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Speaker 1: a big part and were part and parcel of Indian culture.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Are they going to come back?
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Speaker 2: Don't know? I mean, do we want grizzlies to come back?
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Speaker 2: Don't know? And do I care?
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Speaker 1: Well, how many times am I gonna w when's the
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Speaker 1: last time I went camping? I was a boy scout. Actually, Oh,
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Speaker 1: here's something I've never shared before. Do you know that
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Speaker 1: I have done a good part of the John Muir
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Speaker 1: Trail up in northern California, up near Yosemite When I
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Speaker 1: was a boy scout, walked it for a week for
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Speaker 1: a week where we also did our business out in
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Speaker 1: the open with our butts hanging over a log and
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Speaker 1: that helped the environment.
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Speaker 2: Enormously.
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Speaker 1: Okay, controversy with the Trump administration once again, there's an
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Speaker 1: admission that now doesn't change anything, of course not, but
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Speaker 1: it's just it's an admission which we never see before
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Speaker 1: by the Trump administration. When they're the administration is accused
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Speaker 1: of something, usually no, that's not true.
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Speaker 2: We didn't do it. That's not true, that's not true.
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Speaker 1: Well, on one level and on one particular issue, it
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Speaker 1: is absolutely true.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back with that. This is KFI AM six forty.
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