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Well, good morning, good evening or good afternoon, wherever you
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are, whatever you do. A lot of things happening in the
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world today, most of them are far beyond our control, you
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might say. So perhaps it's time we took a
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pause and thought about life, thought about the laws of
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gravity, lightspeed weapons in space, Jean Luc Picard.
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Yeah, all of that. Don't touch that dial.
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Just try to hear me out for a little while.
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Text machine 209565 Dave, 209-565-3283.
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You can text me 24/7. You can also e-mail me Dave at
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the Dave bowmanshow.com. I don't promise that I will read
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them texts I read emails are kind of depends on what kind of
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mood I'm in. That's that's where that's at.
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It's well a Loki Conizio stand up.
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Tell those who oppose Liberty, don't thread on me.
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I love Star Trek. As you know I'm not a huge next
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Gen. person. I I'm an original series guy.
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I made it through next Gen. started deep space 9, kind of
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lost interest in it. Didn't watch any of Voyager, got
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re energized by Enterprise. The new movies could have been
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so much better, but the end of the day, they, they weren't.
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But for all of that, there's this fascination with what goes
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on in outer space, isn't there? There's this fascination with
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the idea of what can we do in space.
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And as time goes by, we're becoming more and more I, I, I
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guess weaponized is the way to say it, right?
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the United States announced this past week the Air Force
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secretary did that, which I found interesting.
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I'm not sure what the chain of command is.
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Does the Air Force secretary overseas Space command?
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Does anybody know? I guess I could look it up, but
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I just, who cares? The Air Force secretary, a guy
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by the name of Troy Mink, said on September 14th that the
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United States has quote an on orbit space control weapons, UN
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quote system capable of defending against hostile
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action. I have no, nobody knows what
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that means. The weapon itself is
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unidentified. We don't know what kind of
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weapon it is, what it does. We don't know what the targets
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are. It's capable of defending
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against hostile action. Is that hostile action by the
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Russians, you know, James Bond or or, or Specter or something
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like that? Is it against China?
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Is it against Doctor? No, it is it against aliens?
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We don't know because we didn't say.
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We just said we have it and we don't know what kind of weapon
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it is. Is it a kinetic weapon?
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Is it a non kinetic weapon? In other words, does it fire
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something like a bullet or a some kind of material that
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strikes, or is it a laser, you know, a Jewish space laser?
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We don't know. The announcement confirmed that
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we have a capability, but didn't really say anything beyond that,
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did it? There's this idea that we have
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with these different possibilities.
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There's an astrodynamicist, which is a new word to me by the
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name of Thomas Roberts, who has speculated on some of the the
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ideas here. We could have a weapon that does
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cyber attacks, it hacks command systems.
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That makes sense. I don't really care what kind of
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warfare you're talking about. What's known as C3D cap has been
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around since the First World War.
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C3D cap command control communications, and you're
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trying to decapitate that. If your opponent can't respond,
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if they can't give orders, if they can't communicate, you're
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going to paralyze them and win. So maybe this thing hacks
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command systems and it's just a cyber attack system.
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Maybe it's a jamming system that interferes with signals.
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We don't know. It could be, of course, if MGT
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was still around, it could be or MTG, whatever her name is, could
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be the Jewish space lasers, of course, aimed at blinding
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opponents sensors or whatever. I don't think they've come up
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with the five GW laser yet that they were trying to build, you
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know, back in the 80s with that movie.
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What was that movie? Real genius, you know, to
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assassinate people. I don't think they've, I don't
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think they have that. It's possible, but they don't.
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If we do, we didn't say it. It could be a directed energy
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weapon, a laser. It could actually be physical
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contact. It could actually be like the
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James Bond flick where the the thing goes up there and grabs
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onto something else in in that case, it was the spaceship
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itself. It grabbed onto it and pulled it
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inside. And if you think about orbital
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mechanics and how things work in space, you grab onto something,
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you're going to transfer momentum.
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And it could be as simple as destructive attacks, missiles
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that shatter targets. You know, you fire a missile at
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someone blows it up. It's a similar to a kinetic
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weapon. But the public, us, the, the
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normal people, we tend to picture these things as kinetic
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missile strikes. The reality is far more likely a
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weapon designed to make a target satellite that is temporarily
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useless without necessarily causing physical destruction.
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There are problems when you start causing physical
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destruction that that that people don't want to worry
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about. But if you can take out
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navigational satellites, if you can take out, you know, these
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kinds of things, if you can take out attack centers, if you can
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take out those things, you create chaos for your opponent.
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Roberts asks 4 useful questions that we might want to consider.
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Can we identify who's using the weapon?
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Can its effects be reversed? Can either side tell whether the
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weapon succeeded or not? And I guess a big question is
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how do we tell if it can be damaging to something else?
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This is something that people don't like to talk about.
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You blow up a satellite in orbit, you get a bunch of pieces
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of little satellites. Where do those go?
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Because they're still traveling at orbital velocity.
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They might slow down a little bit here and there, but but as a
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general rule, they're still traveling at orbital, orbital
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velocity. But now you have debris and it's
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spreading out and it's going different directions.
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Wasn't that long ago, was it that the space station had to
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to, to go on a lockdown because they were concerned about, you
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know, micrometeorites hitting it or something, space debris.
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Why announce this capability while withholding the details?
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Well, I have a problem with withholding the details because
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it's obviously confidential, but it it could be serving as
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deterrence. This is something that that
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matters. You look, Hey, President Xi, we
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know you're over here talking to us right now, but we have this
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weapon in space and we're telling you that we have this
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weapon in space. This idea of telling your
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opponent what you have is not unusual.
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There was a time when President Nixon seemed to have practiced
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that idea, this this deterrent idea of telling people, hey,
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look, we have a capability. You know that we have this
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capability. But I'm confirming it to you.
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And you might want to consider that before you become our
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adversary. It also, however, gives your
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opponent reasons to expand their own programs for doing this kind
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of stuff. There actually is a treaty
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signed in 1967. It's called the Outer Space
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Treaty that prohibits placing nuclear weapons or other weapons
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of mass destruction into orbit, but does not seem to limit other
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types of weapons. Whether we should have disclosed
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this and what rules could reduce, you know,
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miscalculations here are all going to become part of this
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equation in orbit. The first question, however,
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maybe whether or not you can trust what your instruments tell
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you. You're looking at stuff that,
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number one, it's hard to see in space.
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I mean, you're, you're relying on radar sensors, that kind of
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stuff. And it may tell you what you
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think you see, but do you actually see it when you're
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using these weapons in outer space?
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And in fact, this was the same problem that Captain Picard will
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face in his first command aboard the the Stargazer.
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But of course, that's a story that we'll have to pick up in
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just a moment. In the meantime, is it smart for
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us to tell people that we have these?
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I think so. Do they work?
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How do they work? What are they going to do?
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We don't know any of that. We'll figure it out though, I'm
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sure. Set a course for the facts, keep
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an eye on the people in charge, and whatever you do, don't wear
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the red shirt. This is plausibly live.
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Welcome back to Zai, Dave. You would not believe that I'm
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not making this up. In the world of podcasting right
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now, there is a huge debate about whether we say, hey, it's
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you and I or it's you and me or tis I or it's I in describing
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how we're talking to you. I like tis I and Dave because I
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am Dave and it's you and I as we wander through some of the stuff
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today. So Jean Luc Picard again, I am
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not the biggest Next Gen. fan there is.
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There's a few episodes that I like.
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I I thought the whole series got off to a shaky start in the
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middle of a writer's strike. They didn't have what they
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needed to to do the things that they needed to do.
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And of course, it ended up recycling some old original
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series scripts, which was great. But that's the same problem that
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the movies had that the JJ Abrams movies had was they had
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so much potential to tell a broad, fantastic story.
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And they ended up A repeating the same story and B changing it
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in a way that was was so bad, so bad.
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And and that's when I lost interest in it.
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And when when when they when they cut to Spock calling Spock
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Prime and saying, Hey, what did you do about Khan?
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And he he was like, Oh, here's your problem.
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You need to solve this problem. This Mac Guffin that this where
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I lost it. At that point, all the pretty
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stuff went away. And it was like, this is just,
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this is just a cheap remix. It's all it is.
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In the meantime, the next Gen. got off to a rocky start, but
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they kind of, they picked it up as it then went by and they got
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to an episode. I don't think it's the strongest
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episode. It's called the battle.
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And in this battle, Jean Luc Picard recounts how his ship,
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the Stargazer, ran into a Ferengi ship.
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And the Ferengi ship was attacking them and it was, it
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was a big mess. Nobody knew what was going on.
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And his own ship was damaged and things were not going well.
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But he recounts how the Stargazer decide how he pulled a
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move that a helmsman, he says any helmsman would have done.
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But as as Data says, Riker says well, but they call it the
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Picard maneuver. He rushes his ship at the
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Ferengi ship at warp speed, and then he stops dead.
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Stop. Which of course if you've ever
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played Star Fleet battles you know you can't do.
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But he he stops, and he's close enough to fire because the light
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from its earlier position is still traveling towards the
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enemy at lightspeed. The Frangy saw in a parent ship
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where the Stargazer no longer was.
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Now this is the theory, right? The the the light is still
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passing there because they're not actually there.
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When the Ferengi ship fires, they fire at the image, which
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isn't actually there. Or is it when the Stargazer is
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actually over here, the Stargazer now a stop fires and
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kaboom you, you blow up the enemy ship.
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And that's what what happened, which is isn't really what the
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whole episode is about, but it's it's primarily part of it.
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The idea is that an observer, what an observer actually sees
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depends entirely on the light reaching them, not where the
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object is at that instance. For example, if you look into
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the skies tonight, you will see stars everywhere you look.
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Those stars are not where you are looking at them.
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They are where they were anywhere from 4, the closest
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star to literally billions of light years away.
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So that means what you're actually looking at is something
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where it was as many as billions of years ago.
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And if you were to fire a a missile or a weapon or a
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directed weapon or an energy weapon at that, where it was,
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you're not going to hit it. Now, what's intriguing about
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this is even the moon folks is what, 1 1/2, two light psych
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seconds away. When you actually look at the
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moon, the moon is not where it is.
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It's 2 seconds behind. So if you fire at it now, you
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got to lead by two seconds in order to hit it.
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The sun is 8 minutes away. You're you're not seeing the sun
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where it is, you're seeing where it was 8 minutes ago.
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So it all depends on that. Physicist Nicholas de Aguirre
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Alves drew those diagrams. He showed us a hypothetical ship
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traveling that we saw. And you could in theory, in
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theory get up to three different images from the observer
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position depending on how you were looking at this.
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And that's what Picard takes advantage of to do this.
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And what's interesting here is that all this has essentially
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proved that what Picard did would actually work.
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He actually wrote a paper analyzing the Imagine faster
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than light spacecraft. He's not demonstrating the warp
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Dr. actually works. He's just pretending that it
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does. And he he, he establishes this
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idea that the opponent's sensors and targeting methods would
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would have to matter, which comes to play in the episode.
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The defensible headline is that the fictional maneuver, the
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Picard maneuver, provides a useful illustration of light
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travel time. Of course, it doesn't
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necessarily answer the tactical dilemma, which is what we've got
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to address. The commander has.
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Imagine you're the Ferenga commander, or the enemy
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commander, the Red commander. You're now facing a tactical
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issue. You've got 3 targets in front of
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you. If Alvis is is right and
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Picard's maneuver is correct, you're going to see 3 targets.
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You got to decide which one you're going to do.
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If you fire at the closest target, you might hit a phantom
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after image. If you wait for better sensor
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data, you lose the first strike advantage and you might not
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exist, which is kind of what happened.
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If you spread your fire out, now you're diluting the weapon's
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power. The Picard advantage doesn't
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rely on perfect stealth, it relies on forcing a decision
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before the enemy can resolve ambiguities, proving that speed
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and surprise can actually neutralize firepower.
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And what does this have to do with what we're talking about
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today with the space weapons? We have the same problem, folks.
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Light still moves at the same speed.
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Orbital mechanics doesn't change that.
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Now it won't. You know, real combat with this
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weapon that we've put up there isn't going to involve war
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powered spaceships. I get that.
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Both scenarios, though, turn on a shared vulnerability, knowing
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precisely where a target is and whether what you're looking at
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is actually a reliable picture or not.
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If it is, well, then maybe this will work and maybe your space
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weapon will actually come into play.
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But if it's not, what are you going to do?
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The final frontier? The greater advantage doesn't
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necessarily belong to the side with the better weapon.
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It could actually reside in the side that understands what the
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other side is able to actually see.
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Interesting that all these years later, how many?
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How long ago was next Gen. physicists and our own space
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weapons are actually catching up with the idea that the Picard
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maneuver actually works? Captain's Log.
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The headlines are in, the coffee is hot, and Dave Bowman has the
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con. This is plausibly live.
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Welcome back. It's me and you plausibly live
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Text machine 209565, Dave, 209-565-3283.
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E-mail Dave at the Dave bowmanshow.com So I'm having
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kind of a rough morning here. I had intended to do this three
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hours ago, but as you know, my wife works nights and we are a
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single car family. So I had to wait for her to get
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off work and I just knew and I kept texting Bill.
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I said I just know as soon as I start, as soon as I hit go live,
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she's going to text me and say come get me.
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Now I know this because it's happened before.
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We've we've had that happen with what the frock on Sunday
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mornings. We have a little bit more, you
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know, play room on that one. And so do I now.
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But as a general rule of thumb, it's in if I really wanted her
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to come home right now, I would just hit go live and
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instantaneously she would text me and that would be the end of
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it. But I didn't do that.
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So I I kept waiting and kept waiting and kept waiting and
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kept waiting and kept waiting. And basically two hours late,
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she got off work finally, which is funny.
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I mean, I get it. She's a nurse.
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They have issues. They have problems, things, you
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know, run over words. So I'm not trying to be an ass
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about it, but you know, it's just like, well, I don't have a
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set schedule. And see, this is part of the
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problem that we're running into with the idea of me doing a live
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show concurrent with Bill and some other people as well, is
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that I can't commit to a specific time unless that time
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is like 6:00 in the morning. I don't want to do that.
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I'm retired. I shouldn't have to get up at
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5:00 in the morning to do a show.
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So sometime between 7:00 and noon is pretty much my window.
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I, I, I wish I could be more precise, but I can't.
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And that's, you know, it's just the reality of my world now.
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It's just the reality of the way I do things.
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So hopefully you understand that and hopefully that's fine.
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Meanwhile, the baseball season is winding down.
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I saw the MLB Network today back in, I think it was 2011, the the
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last day of the season. You remember the last day of the
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season in 2011. They were like, I don't, I don't
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remember the number, but it was like every game, with the
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exception of a couple actually had impact on the play of the
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playoffs. The Orioles knocked out the Red
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Sox and the Twins won and stuff like that.
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And, and I remember this very well because I had just come off
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my third knee surgery, couldn't walk.
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I was laid up in bed and MLB.TV had just become a thing.
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And so I was sitting in bed with my iPad and the TV and I was
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watching MLBTV and I was watching all these games and
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they just kept jumping around all the games and it was so much
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fun. And they're going to do the same
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thing on Sunday, Game 162. They're going to, you know,
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basically have red zone for baseball on Sunday.
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So I'm excited about that because I can have that on one
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TVI can have the NFL on the other TV, and it'll just be a
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great sports day. I'm excited about that.
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What I'm not excited about is we started this season with so much
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hope for the Mariners. Remember the Mariners last year
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were what, 6 outs from the World Series?
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I've been a Mariner fan since 1982.
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That's when I moved up here permanently.
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Moved up here. I'd been up here in 1980, but in
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1982 I moved up here permanently.
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Yes, I was raised. Born, well, not raised because
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my dad didn't like baseball, but I became a Dodger fan in the
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early 70s, mid 70s, primarily because I hated the Yankees and
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my best friend was a Yankee fan. But I learned to love the
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Dodgers through the years. I'm not going to, I'll never
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take that away. The Dodgers will always be my
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first love. They they always have been.
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They always will be. But I have a thing for the
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Mariners having lived here. I wasn't big on the American
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League when I first came up here, but I got used to it.
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And since the Mariners were in no danger of ever playing
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against the Dodgers, you know they'd have to make it to the
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World Series in those days. It wasn't going to happen.
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So I sort of much like I did with the AFL and the NFLI, had a
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team in each. I had the Dodgers and then I had
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the Mariners and I used to go to Mariners games a lot.
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Folks. I you could get on the ferry for
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a couple of bucks, walk to the stadium, buy a ticket for 10
24:48
bucks, get in, have a great time, make it back in time for
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the next day. That no longer happens.
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I mean, you can't even ride the ferry for less than 20 bucks.
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You got to park, that's expensive.
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Then you got to, you know, buy a ticket to the game, which are
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outrageous 4050 bucks and and that's before you even, you
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know, buy a beer and some a hot dog, which it's insane here.
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So I settle for just watching stuff.
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Occasionally I'll go down and see the Rainiers, usually when
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the river cats are in town, that sort of thing.
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And and but I but I watched the Mariners for many years.
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I sat through there were 81 home games in 1983.
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The Mariners were the worst team in baseball, lost 103 games that
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year. I guarantee I went to forty of
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those home games and they were bad.
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I mean bad. It was embarrassingly bad.
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The 1985 season when they started out six and one,
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everything was going great. Then it fell apart.
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You, you get used to this idea that the Mariners have promise
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and they'll they'll, they'll promise you, hey, we're almost
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there. And that's almost a guarantee
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that the next year's going to be a flop.
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I mean, it just is. Yeah, they had a few good years.
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Remember the the Mariners actually hold the record for
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American League wins in a season and tied with the Major League
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record set by the Cubs, 116 wins.
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You'll notice that they didn't make it to the World Series that
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year or any other year. They're the only team in Major
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League Baseball that has never appeared in the World Series.
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And last year they were six outs from it and made some
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questionable management decisions and didn't make it.
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And so everybody up here was always all excited about this
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year was going to be great, it's going to be great.
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And of course it's been absolutely terrible.
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Which is exactly the reason why I guess Brooks, which is a
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company up here, decided to try to sell Adrenaline GTS for
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Sneakers, Merit limited edition Mariner sneakers for $150.00,
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$150.00 for tennis shoes, sneakers that have Mariner logos
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on them. And oh, by the way, the laces,
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which have, you know, laces are going to break.
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I mean, they always do. The laces say holy smokes.
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Which is a tribute to our radio announcer, our great radio
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announcer, Rick Rizz, who replaced Dave Niehaus, who died
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many years ago. And Rick Rizz is his last, his
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last hurrah. He's he's done, he's retiring
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after this year, much like Bill did.
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So he's, he's not going to be calling games anymore for us.
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And it's, it's a loss. I mean, I enjoy listening to
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baseball. I, I enjoy listening to it
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actually more than I do watching it.
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One of the things I love to do during the summertime is I'll
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turn on MILB radio and I will listen to games basically from
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the time I get up until the time I go to bed from the East Coast
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to the West Coast and just listen to the sound of it.
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It's so wonderful to me. But we're not going to have his
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voice anymore. But that's no excuse in my book
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to to create sneakers that cost $150.00 for for a team that just
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has sucked bad. It's a commemorative product,
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arrives during the club's 50th season.
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Yay. And yet here we are once again,
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full of promise, full of vigor, full of them and full of
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failure. Because that's what the Mariners
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do. The Mariners always do this
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every time they think they're going to have a good year.
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They just don't. And I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm
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in that mode where I'm kind of like, well, maybe that means
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next year will be better. But we have the problem with
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the, with the idea that there might not be a 2027 baseball
28:44
season. In fact, it seems likely that
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there will not be a 2027 baseball season.
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And that has put for me a damper on this year.
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I have not watched a lot of games.
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I just haven't because I keep looking at it with the attitude
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of a the Mariners suck. Yes, the Dodgers are in the
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playoffs. Yes, the Dodgers could be going
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for a three peat. It just doesn't feel like it
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though, and it just doesn't feel like there's a lot of promise
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for tomorrow and that's the problem that I have with the
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whole thing. Hopefully your team did better
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if you have a team if you don't well, Mariners and the dodgers
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could use always could use for more fans.
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But there you go. We talked about space weapons to
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Picard maneuver in 44 years with the Mariners that I've been.
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I understand the appeal of a ship that can move faster than
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like because I would love to use that to get to a season where
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the Mariners finally make it to the World Series.
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But until then, apparently they would like me to walk in $150.00
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shoes and that just ain't going to happen.
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Take the time right now. Tell the people that matter in
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your life you love them very much.
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You'd miss them if they weren't there.
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So don't pass up those opportunities.
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You don't want to have that regret possibly live.
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I'm Dave Bowman, might not be here tomorrow, got some stuff
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going on, but hopefully we can try it and see what's going on.
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Take care, everybody.