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The Breakfast Club part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Buckle your shoes!
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Won't you come see about me Ryan I'll be alone
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: fucking dancing and you know it baby tell me your
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: troubles and doubts giving me everything inside now Ryan alright
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: where we left off um I believe they finished their
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: essay and handed it in, and Vernon reads it out loud,
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: and it's great. And he says, Bender, I take away
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: all your detentions, and I love you. And they say,
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: we love you too, Dad. And then they all hug.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: We're all better people for being here today. Mm-hmm. We leave. Yep.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, you are correct. Well, thanks for listening. No, where
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: we left off, Bender just got 900 detentions, and.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: Vernon sort of leaves them to themselves for a while.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: Bender lights his shoe on fire to light a cigarette
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: with it. And then it cuts to Molly Ringwald and
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: she's visibly aroused.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: And, and I think that that is, I love Bender.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think girls, like girls love badasses and like rebels.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: I get that. Um, But I don't think that Molly
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: Ringwald would be into Bender because he's not like– he's
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: like a WAF rebel. He's like a not cool to
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: the popular clique rebel. Some like– what's his name? The
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: guy from Laguna Beach or– what's the sequel to Laguna Beach?
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: I'm asking the wrong person. Justin Bobby. Justin Bobby.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: What? Hills is the sequel.
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: The Hills.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ryan.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Justin Bobby is an example of somebody who's clearly a
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: douche loser, but girls would be really into him, and
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: I kind of get it. Nobody would be into Bender.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: But I chalk it up to high school girls not
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: to be sexist. High school boys are very, very stupid.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: High school girls are completely batshit crazy. So I chalk it.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: Up to that.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: But she is visibly turned on. bender is just tearing
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: apart library books to pass the time like why um
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: what are you doing ali sheedy is drawing on the
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: desk and she draws this beautiful covered bridge shot from
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: like vermont or new hampshire we'll say vermont because it's
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: better um and she adds snow ryan do you remember
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: how she adds snow.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Of course she just shakes the dandruff out of her
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: hair onto it gross hilarious Gross.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: And Bender– oh, yeah. Andrew asks Claire, Molly Ringwald, to
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: go to a party.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: So this is where I thought this is where they
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: started to know each other because he was referencing– they
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: seemed to reference the same people. That's why.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. So I think Andy and Claire knew
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: who each other were, but I don't think Andy and
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Claire know who all the other people are.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: Agreed. Agreed. Yeah.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: And Claire says, well, if I do what my mother
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: tells me to do, it's because my father says it's OK. Oh,
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: if I do what my mother tells me not to do,
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: it's because my father says it's OK. There's it's this
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: whole big monster deal. It's endless. It's a total drag.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, any minute, you know, it's just
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: kind of a disaster. And Bender says, who do you
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: like better? And she says, I don't know, I'd probably
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: go live with my brother. I mean, I don't think
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: either one of my parents gives a shit about me.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: They just use me to get back at each other.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: And then Bender says to Andy, do you like your parents?
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: And Andy says, well, if I say I like my parents,
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, right? Then Bender says, well, if you
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: say you like them, you're an idiot, but you're a
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: liar too. Meaning, everybody hates their parents. I think it,
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think everybody– well, how do I put this?
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Did you go through a stage where you hated your
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: parents or hated one of your parents?
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: Think of it now. I don't think it was hated.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: It was just more like my mentality is they don't
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: understand what I'm going through and they're telling you what
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: to do all the time. So you just want to
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: avoid them. Yes.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: I mean like being in school– is it's like the
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: episode of The Office with Prison Mike when they say, Michael,
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: nobody thinks being here is actually like prison. I don't
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: think high school is actually like prison, but it's more
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: like prison than being an adult because you're forced to go.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: You don't get paid. You have no choice. It can
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: be violent. You are eating cafeteria food. There's a lot
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: of similarities to prison. As Good Charlotte said, My high
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: school felt more to me like a jail cell, a penitentiary.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: So I think that everyone kind of hates their parents
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: in high school. I definitely hated my dad in high school.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't love my mom, per se, but I hated
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: my dad in high school. And now we get along fine.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: It's just sort of.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: It happens. I also think a lot of that was...
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: I mean part of that was because of me and
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: because of teenagers and because of hormones. I think my
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: dad didn't make great choices in like dealing with me
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: as a teenager. I think he didn't get it. I
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: hope I'm better at dealing with teenage Cece than my
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: dad was with me. But I'm not saying I blame him.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: It's sort of– it's a two-way street essentially is.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: But Sandy, your sister, fucking hated your mom. Hated your mom, right?
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't get along at all. Right.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: And now they're probably relatively fine, I imagine.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: Complete opposite of what it used to be. Complete opposite.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: It just kind of happens at this age.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: It's normal. I think it's just that, like you said,
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: I think especially being a teenager, like you're kind of
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: this narcissistic little asshole. You know, my world's the most
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: important world kind of thing. Yep.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are. Teenagers are narcissists. You are the main
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: character syndrome. Every teenager has main character syndrome.
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: Bender finds out Claire's name and says Claire is a
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: fat girl's name.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: And asks her, are you a virgin? I bet you
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: a million dollars that you are. Have you ever been
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: kissed by a boy in the mouth? Have you ever
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: been felt up over the bra, under the blouse, shoes off,
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: hoping to God your parents don't walk in? Bender doesn't
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: age well.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: I would say Bender is Hannibal Lecter in my notes.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: This was him going through the– just no glass wall
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: this time.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Over the panties, no bra, blouse and button. That's what
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: Bender says.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: Going out, going everywhere, going all the way to the FBI. Yeah.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Andy says, leave her alone. You're going to make me–
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: He said, Bender says you and how many of your friends.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: Now I love this. I love this idea because I
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: was like, there's this idea that the cigarette smoking, like
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: skip school, doesn't play a sport. Badass kid can fight.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: And like, maybe they can, maybe they have been in
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: street fights and have like fighting knowledge to an extent.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: But like every day, the athlete, the, like the track
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: athlete even would be, way better bet than this cigarette
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: smoking kid that skips class every day. Like, on what
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: planet would Andy, who's an elite high school wrestler, who's
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: going to get a scholarship to go to college, would
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: lose in a fight to Bender? Bender would get his
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: ass kicked by Andy.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Put a lot of anger with Bender. Sometimes that
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: anger gets really powerful. Not here, obviously.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's a myth. I think that The whole, like,
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: sometimes I just see red and I'm so angry I
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: could kick anyone's ass, like Ben Stiller in Mystery Men.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: I think that, like.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Wow!
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you appreciate that cut, Mr. Furious. I think
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: that that's completely untrue. I think, like, a skilled, calm,
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  Speaker 2: trained fighter would be the angriest badass on Earth every time.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: Uncoordinated.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Who had no fighting experience and, like, you know, like,
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I'd be like a gangbanger versus an army ranger. Like
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: the gangbanger that's drinking and smoking every day that has
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: no firearm training. Like, yes, they're accustomed to violence, but
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the army ranger.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think too, like this is a college wrestler.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. High school wrestler. Another kid in school. I
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: can also see Bender getting more desperate but it's interesting
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: how this turns out because I was surprised like I
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: don't remember this part but I was like oh they
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: actually do physically fight I thought it was just going
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: to be an all talk thing and Andrew pretty much
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: disables Bender immediately it's not even a question kind of.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: This was a big line for Joe. This is the
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  Speaker 2: first time we heard this and we loved it. If
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: we fought, just you and me, be two hits. Me
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: hitting you, you hitting the floor. That's what Andy says.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: And I used to always say, if we fought, you
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: and me, be two hits. Me hitting you, then me
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: kissing your dad. Like something just really off-putting and bizarre. Yeah,
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Andy's very cringed. He's very cringed. This entire movie. Bender
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: goes to hit him and Andy, as you said, just
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: dismantles him with wrestling. And Bender explains, I don't want
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: to get into this with you. I would kick your ass.
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: I would get out of this wrestling hold and kick
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: your ass, but I'd kill you and your fucking parents
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: would sue me and it'd be a big mess and
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: I don't care enough about you to bother.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: And then Andy says, like, you're a pussy. And then Bender,
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  Speaker 2: of course, even though he lost the fight, can't be one-upped.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Pulls out a knife.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Andy says, well, let's end this debate right now. Don't
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: talk to Claire. Don't look at her. You understand me.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: And Bender says, I'm trying to help her. And then
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: we have a very interesting character come in the room, Ryan.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Do you remember who comes in at this point?
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: This would be, I believe, Carl?
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Carl the janitor. Why don't you explain Carl the janitor
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: in this scene, if you remember it?
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: He has a very important moment later, that's why. He
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: comes in and he just sees them all there. And
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Bender has an amazing joke. He looks at Brian and goes, oh,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: does your dad work here? And he makes a joke
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: about how being a maintenance person.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Is you know like oh you guys look down on
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: this like i have no job i know what goes
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: on here i hear all the whispers you guys say
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: to each other i look in the walkers i know
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: all the secrets it's like so you there's a lot
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: in my mind that you wouldn't want to know or
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: something of that type it was just like i have
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of power that you think i don't have yeah.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah and um Bender, I'm like, who are you to
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: judge him, Bender? You'd be lucky to be a janitor
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: in five years.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the craziest thing to me, was
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: that it was Bender judging him. But then again, I
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: think it's also kind of the point of Bender is
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't see that.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Some men just want to watch the world burn.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even give him that credit.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't either. When Carl says, I know what's
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: in your lockers, Bender looks panicked, and you'll understand that later.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: But when Carl just like verbally dismantles them, like, oh,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: you think I'm a loser because I'm a janitor? Well,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: guess what? It cuts back to Bender at the end
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: and Bender smiles. Bender's like, oh, I respect Carl now.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: They are now eating lunch and they said we don't
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: have any milks or drinks. So can we get something?
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: And Bender goes, I'll go get it in the cafeteria
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: and stands up like Vern is just going to be
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: cool with that. And Vernon picks Allison and Andrew. He says, like,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: you two go get it. I don't trust you two.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: We're going to do anything. Very odd pairing. Allison, quiet girl,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: and Andrew. But.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: But.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: They start talking about their parents. Andrew says he's a
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: racehorse and he's not involved with anything that happens to him.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: He's just being fed and trained and he's this winning
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: racehorse that is not doesn't have any autonomy over his
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: own life. And that's the biggest thing about why I
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: think being an adult is better than a kid, is
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: when you're a kid, at least when I was a kid,
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I had zero autonomy. And now I have almost complete autonomy,
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: which is very nice. Back in the library, Bender asked
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Brian if he's ever had sex, and Brian says yes.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Do you remember who he says he lost his virginity to?
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it claire.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: What's that he so brian says he did bang claire
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: but he lost his virginity to a canadian girl at niagara.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Falls oh okay okay yeah the person is not there
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: yes yeah.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Yep and you wouldn't know her and then he motions
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: to claire indicating that he had sex with claire um
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: like bender just says Claire, Brian just motioned to you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: like you had sex. Is that true? Which is, you know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: I don't fault Bender for doing that because, like, fuck Brian.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: It's an easy fact check. Yeah.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: And then Brian's like, Bender's a liar. Nobody can trust Bender.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Don't believe him. But you know as the viewer that
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Bender's telling the truth. Which, honestly, like, Bender, for the
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: most part, as obnoxious as he is, is pretty truthful,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I would say. Yeah. Throughout this whole movie. And Brian admits... okay,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: you know what? I did motion to Claire. Like we
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: had sex. Obviously we didn't. I'm a virgin. Are you okay?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Like what, you know, what's your point? I'm a virgin.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Big whoop. And then Claire says, um, it's okay. Like I'm,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a virgin too, essentially. And I don't think it's
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: bad if a guy is a virgin. And also you're
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: like 16. Like, I don't know. What am I supposed to,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like banging girls every night at the club when
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I'm 16. I don't know.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Well, when she's, I think it's so interesting when she
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: says that, that she thinks it's okay for her to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: be a virgin, the way she looks around the room
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: and the way Bender looks at her, it's like, oh,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Claire knows that Bender is actually into her. He's not
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: just being judgmental. He's into her. Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I love that. And then also when Andy and Allison
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: come back and they put all the drinks on a
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: table and Bender's going through them and he picks up
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a Coke and without looking, he tosses it behind his
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: back to Allison in the back of the room and
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Allison catches it. And I thought that was a great
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: character moment because that shows– A closeness of all of them.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Because we haven't really even seen Bender and Allison interact
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: with one another. But Bender's demonstrating, like, I got you. Like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: we're in this together. I tossed you a Coke kind
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Also shows the whole Allison thing. Because until the hallway
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: scene when she's talking to Andrew, she's barely spoken the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: entire movie so far. Yes. If not at all. And again...
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the idea is that she appears to be checked out,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: her head's in between her arms, on her desk the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: whole time, drawing, doing whatever. But at the beginning, she
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: walks around the whole room to see who's there. So
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the funny thing is, she is watching and seeing everything
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that's going on.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: No, you're totally right. And side note about Ally Sheedy,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of instances that destroyed James Franco,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: but she was one of the people where James Franco,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: his whole downfall started because he tweeted out, Like, I
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: fully support women and the Me Too movement and I'm
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a feminist and blah, blah, blah. And one of the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: people that was like, this is preposterous. I've worked with
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: him and he is a complete scumbag. At least she
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: tweeted something along those lines. And it was like the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: beginning of the whole house of cards falling in on
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: James Franco.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She actually– it's looking at the futures of a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys. She has been pretty– prolific in
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: doing stuff after this. I was kind of like, wow.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Like I was reading her, I'm reading her just list
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. I'm sorry. I was like, wow.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Well, so yes and no. I mean, I, I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: know her filmography offhand, but like Judd Nelson has been
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in 500 things, but that doesn't mean any of them
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: were famous or successful or relevant.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But it's, I wonder if it was a perspective thing
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: where like, because Molly Ringwald became such a star herself
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and then seemingly became kind of went away by choice
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: or not in the nineties, two thousands. I mean, obviously
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Emilio became the biggest person out of this, but it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: just kind of interesting how like those two kind of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: stayed relatively constant. And Anthony Michael Hall weirdly later has had,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: speaking of the dark night again. Yeah. You got another
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: person in the movie in the dark night.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Anthony Michael Hall is in the dark night. Correct. Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Anthony Michael Hall was very, he was huge. Then he
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: fell off a cliff. Then he reinvented himself as an
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: adult actor. Because he was like a teen actor. Fell
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: off a cliff. Reinvented himself as an adult. He was
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in like The Dead Zone. Freddie got fingered. He was
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in The Dark Knight. He was in a lot of stuff.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Emilio Estevez was a very successful actor. And then became
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: a director. Molly Ringwald was a superstar. And then completely disappeared.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Judd Nelson and Ally Sheedy kind of. fell off a cliff,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: but continued working. Um, and then that's everything.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I know. It's just, yeah, it's, it's pretty interesting. And
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: then it's just like, it's weird how, like who gets comebacks,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: who doesn't, who's just constant and people are happy to see. Um, yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's just so, so strange. I mean, especially isn't Michael
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Hall is a stranger one to me because I This
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is who he plays in 1985. In 1990, he is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: like the dickhead jerk bully in Edward Scissorhands. Five years later,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: he's grown a foot. and looks completely different.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Him as an adult, because his head looks different. His
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: head got wider.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Because he was so thin, he just sort of thickened
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: out and he looks like a complete different person. I
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: asked AI, I was like, did something happen to Judd Nelson?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Was he difficult to work with? And because I thought
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I remember hearing something like that. And I said, no,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just he was part of the Brat Pack,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: which if you guys don't know the Brat Pack, it
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: was like Demi Moore, Rob Lowe, Judd Nelson. What's the guy, Andrew?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: What's his name?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, Andrew.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: From Weekend at Bernie's.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have never seen that either.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So they were all– like they all got so popular
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: in the 80s that everybody actually hated them and then
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: they were told by their people like don't do movies together,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: don't hang out together. And Judd Nelson was so iconic
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: as Bender that they were always casting him and he's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: like angry guy roles.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: He was in New Jack City, which was another movie
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: we covered, but he never really like– wasn't he in–
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was he in Just Shoot Me or Suddenly Susan? He
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: was the male lead of some really popular sitcom for
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a couple years.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at it now. I'm not sure.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Suddenly Susan, you're right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Suddenly Susan, yeah. I knew he was the male lead
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: who was kind of like, oh, are they going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: get together? Him and Brooke Shields. That was Suddenly Susan.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Born in Portland, Maine. Wow.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I saw that. I love Portland, Maine, and I love that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So they're now eating their lunches. Their lunches are representative
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of who they are as people. Claire's lunch is in
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a shopping bag, and it is sushi, which I don't
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: know if this is in a fridge, but I'd be
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: a little worried about eating it. Andrew's lunch. Do you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: remember Andy's lunch?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I wrote down the exact components because I wrote, look
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: at this. Hit me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Hit me with his lunch.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So Andrew takes out of this giant shopping brown bag
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: an apple, a banana, a bag of cookies, a full-size
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: bag of chips, three sandwiches, milk, and he gets a Coke.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: A quart of milk.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: A quart of milk. I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You also forgot an apple and a banana.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I said an apple and banana first.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You did say that first.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: My bad. I was going from the decline, but in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: my opinion, better. I was blown away by that. The
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: full bag of cookies was the one part I was
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: blown away by. There's like 12 full-size cookies in that bag.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I think the family-size bag of chips was the craziest
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: thing to me. But when you're that age and you're
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: an elite athlete, you can literally eat whatever you want.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You can eat anything, yeah.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I would know. Allison's lunch is like, what? I don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: even get her lunch. It's Pixie Stix and bread.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And like Captain Crunch.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She opens the sandwich, puts Captain Crunch, Pixie Stix.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's just being weird for the sake of weird.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Andrew pulls out soup and apple juice. And apple juice
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in high school is a little... Apple juice juice box
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: in high school is a little weird.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: PB & J with the crust cut off. And.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Bender starts making fun of Brian's family for being normal. Now, like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what kids drink now for lunch, because
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I always drank a can of soda every day, like,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: for lunch in high school, and kids don't do that anymore.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Kids have water bottles and are, like, drinking water all day,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: which is great. I don't know why it took thousands
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: of years for us to figure out water is good
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: for you and we should be hydrated, but that's going
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to be so weird to explain to Cece, like, we
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: didn't drink water. Well, Cece and I will both be
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: dead because of AI, but In a parallel universe where
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: we aren't, I'd be like, I didn't drink water during school.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a water bottle. We didn't really even
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: go to the water fountain that much.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Tim, before you go, though, Judd did actually not have
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a bad career. And then it kills you. That's what
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: AI says. Yeah, it's just bring up your old questions.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I would love if he did.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I love Bender. I love Judd. So I'd be happy
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: if he did.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: So Bender is making fun of Brian's family for being normal,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, son, how was school today?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: It was swell, Dad.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And they said, oh, well, what's your family like? And
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Bender is now playing his father, talking to him, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: he says.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Stupid, worthless, no good, goddamn freeloading son of a bitch, retarded,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: big mouth, know-it-all, asshole, jerk.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And then his mother says, you forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespectful.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that's Bender being himself. I apologize.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Wait, no.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Is Bender portraying his mother in this moment? Because the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: father slaps the person and says, shut up, bitch. Give
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: me a turkey pot pie. So I believe that it
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: was his mother. And then he says, um.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: What about you, Dad? Fuck you. No, what about you, Dad?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And it ends with Bender pretending his father is beating
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the shit out of him. Brian says, is this for real?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And Bender says, you want to come over and see sometime?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Andy says, this is bullshit. It's all part of your
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: image and I don't believe a word of it. Which
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is fair to an extent.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: He was pretty quick to volunteer this.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And Bender's like, oh, yeah, it's not real. And he
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: rolls up his sleeve to show a burn on his arm.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: He says, do you believe this? It's about the size
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: of a cigar. You see, this is what you get
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in my house when you spill paint in the garage.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And then he says, I don't need to sit here
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: with you fucking dildos anymore, which is a line I love.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. this scene got a little bit ruined for me
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: because there's an amazing moment on community where Abed, the team,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the study group is fighting in the study hall about something.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And he just chimes in with this entire speech, even
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the fight. He just decides
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: everyone's angry. I need to escalate it. And it's amazing.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: What about you, dad? What about you? And they're so confused.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I think that that's, I appreciate that. Anybody
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that channels Bender, I appreciate that. Bender's like, okay, we're
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: all going to go to my locker for no reason.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: They all kind of just go.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Smart movie move here, I think.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Why do you think?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Break him out of the room. Break him out of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the room. Give people a change.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Mix it up. Give him a break. He opens his locker,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and you can't really tell who all the musicians are,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: but there's a Doors sticker. There's a Scorpions sticker.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I love the Scorpions sticker. I was like, man. Scorpions.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of images of rock stars playing guitar,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and it turns out they're getting weed. that Bender has
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: weed in his locker and he went to go get weed.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And also we forgot the guillotine. Oh yeah. Locker. Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: When you open Bender's locker, a guillotine slides down and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: it's sharp enough to cut off like part of his shoe.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It was intense. Where does he get that blade? It's intense. Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Then there's a really corny, like I didn't appreciate the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: song or the montage, but they're, running through the halls,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: trying to not get caught by Vernon. And it's this
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: montage to this song. I don't even remember the song, Ryan,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: if you have it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the song either. But yeah, it's kind
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of a little funky, but also Vernon kind of vanishes
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in the movie for a while, which I actually think
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is kind of a smart move. Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's off doing his own thing. He doesn't want
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to just sit here and babysit them for nine hours.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't really even have a problem with it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just was, again, like seeing it all at once.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, he's really not in this a lot. Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And this is a part I really appreciate. A man's
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: got to have a code. Even Bender, a man's got
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to have a code. So Bender tells them, we should
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: cut through the cafeteria. It'll be a good shortcut. They
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: all follow Bender, and they go to the cafeteria, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it's locked. The doors sent to the cafeteria are locked.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: They can't cut across the cafeteria, and they know we're fucked.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: They know somehow, I don't even know how, but they
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: know somehow we can't get back to the library without
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Vernon catching us now. So there's nothing we can do.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: We're all going to get caught. And then John Bender
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: is thinking about it. And Bender goes, no, it's just me.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm fucked anyway. It'll just be me. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: they go, what do you mean? And he just starts
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: running down the hall, singing a song, screaming a song.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I want to be an Air Force Ranger. He ends
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: up in the gym.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Why don't you explain this scene?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So he's just in the gym shooting hoops. And Vernon
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: is like, what are you doing here? And I forget
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: what he says in response to this, to be honest
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: First of all, Bender dunks the basketball. And the hoop's
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: probably lowered, but it's still high.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Does a pretty good job. Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And then he spins the ball in his finger. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Judd Nelson is like sick at basketball,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: which for the character doesn't make sense. And then he
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: does the Matt Barnes Kobe move. Where he fakes passes
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: right in uh vernon's face but unlike kobe vernon completely
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: like bites and yeah jumps backwards vernon says everything's a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: big joke huh bender and now it's revealed why is
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: bender in detention the false alarm you pulled friday false
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: alarms are pretty funny huh so bender pulled the fire
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: alarm He says, what if you're home? What if you're family?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And then he pauses and goes, no, forget it because
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you don't care about that. What if your dope was
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: on fire? And then Bender has the classic line, that's impossible, sir.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It's in Johnson's underwear because it actually is in Brian's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: underwear because they go give the weed to Brian. Brian
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: hides it in his underwear because they're like they're never
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: going to look for the weed on Brian.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And so when he goes, it's impossible, sir. It's in
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Johnson's underwear. Brian looks terrified, and Emilio Estevez loves it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: He loses it. I thought that was such a great,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: genuine moment that would happen. And then he says to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: everybody in the library, Vernon says, You think Bender's funny?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: You think he's cute? You think he's bitchin'? Let me
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: tell you something. He's a bum. You want to see
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: something funny? You go visit John Bender in five years,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and you'll see how goddamn funny he is. Oh, what's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the matter, John? You gonna cry? Because Bender looks like
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: genuinely really devastated by that comment.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And then he grabs Bender's shoulder and Bender says, get
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: your fucking hands off me. I expect better manners from you, dick.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: So what do you think about that? Like Vernon's comment? Well,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you think he's funny. Take a look at
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Bender in five years because that's probably true. I mean,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I assume Bender's a senior, let's say, even if he's not.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: It's almost more insulting than saying like, see him in
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: 20 years, like see, it's not going to take long
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: for this thing to fall over. Yeah. It's almost worse
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: That's a really good point, Ryan, because 20 years would
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: be like, Oh yeah, I bet he's gonna be a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: loser in 20 years.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He lives a life. Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Five years, five years. He's going to be a loser.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And when high school is over, Bender is done because
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: high school is the one place where you can function
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: as John Bender. You're essentially going to your job every day.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: But you're doing and saying what you want, being an asshole,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: dressing how you want, not doing your assignments. You can
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: get away with that in high school. You can't get
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: away with that in college. Not that he would even go.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You can't get away with that in the real world working.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to be like... Like I said earlier,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: he would be lucky to be Carl, who's the janitor
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: at the high school.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the idea, too, of... You're acting
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: this way because of the situation you're in with school. Like, again,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like you just said, you're forced to be here in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a way. And it is an escape probably from his
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: home life. And this is why he's kind of acting out.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But also, you know, if he probably wouldn't go to college,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but he starts working, you need that job. You're making money.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: You need to, like, you are there for yourself, not
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: because you're being forced to be there. So you wouldn't
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: act that way in a weird way.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to criticize the benders of the world, like
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons I was arguing with my dad
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: about why being a kid sucks is I said, you
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: have essentially a 40-hour-a-week job where you get paid $ 0.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And while you're there, your coworkers can call you homophobic
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: slurs and strangle you, which literally has happened to me
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: in school before. I've been called a homophobic slur and
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I've also been strangled by a kid at school. You
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: can't do that in real life or you get fired.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: So like you can be a psycho in school and
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: they don't kick you out unless you do something really,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: really bad. So Vernon takes Bender into.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: A closet, right? Yeah. Also, I think when Vernon, Vernon
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: kind of like when, I mean, again, it's 1985 when
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Vernon's like talking, he's like, I make $ 31, 000 a year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, man, did you just throw
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: yourself under the bus here with this? But it's like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Bender won't punch him.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I, Yeah, this is what Vernon says, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I did the inflation calculation on this. So he takes
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: him into a closet, and he's like, you're going to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: be in the closet for the rest of the day.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to lock you in here. I don't care.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That's the last time, Bender. That's the last time you
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: ever make me look bad in front of those kids.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: You hear me? I make $ 31, 000 a year, and I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: have a home, and I'm not about to throw it
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: away on some punk like you. Now, $ 31, 000 a year
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is $ 100, 000 in today's money, just so you know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's just giving like Bender food there
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: to like chew on. I was like, great, I can
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: use this against you now. I was like, why do
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: this to yourself? Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But someday, man, someday when you're out of here, Bender,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you've forgotten all about this school. They've forgotten all about
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you and you're wrapped up in your own pathetic life.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be there. And then Bender looks up like, what?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: And he says, that's right. I'm going to kick the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: living shit out of you. I'm going to knock your
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: dick in the dirt. And then Bender says, are you
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: threatening me? What are you going to do about it?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: You think anybody's going to believe your word over mine?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I'm a man of respect around here. I'm a real
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: swell guy. You're a lying sack of shit. And everybody
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: knows it. You think you're a real tough guy? All right,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: let's go. Get on your feet, pal. I want to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: find out how tough you are.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the first punch. Come on, right here.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Just take the first shot. I'm begging you. And Vernon's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: pointing at his chin, saying, punch me. That's all I need,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: just one swing. Bender just sits there staring at him
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: in disbelief. Vernon fakes a punch and Bender flinches. He says,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: that's what I thought. You're a gutless turd. And he
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: leaves and locks the closet door.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: That is fucked.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, what, what, what are your thoughts on this
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: scene and this dialogue?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Bender is so, he's so, so much of like an
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: agitator of people. And we see it later, too. I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: think he doesn't even realize when he breaks people, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't expect it in return. And when this happens with Vernon,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: where Vernon wouldn't even say this in front of the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: other kids, so he knows it's not even like Vernon
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: trying to intimidate. It is, I personally believe this. Like,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think you're nothing. I would love to destroy you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: as a human being. it's pretty brutal. Cause also the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: way Bender does not like, I don't know how to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: say it. It's almost like he does not even like,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it's kind of the first time he's being real because
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: this is actually what this guy is saying is hurting him.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And also he does feel bizarrely afraid.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I think like when Vernon says this, he's not wrong.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Like Bender does have an act. And he is pretending
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to be a certain way. And he's not going to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: really fight Vernon when nobody's watching and the doors are
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: closed and Vernon is daring him to. And he would
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: probably lose the fight. But at the same time, that's
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: not how I interpreted this scene. I interpreted this scene as,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: fuck Vernon. To go back to The Dark Knight, Vernon
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: is a teacher where after the years of being a
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: teacher and being jaded and bitter, he stared into the abyss.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: and the abyss stared back at him, the student body
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: stared back at him, and he blinked. I mean, Bender
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: is a child, and he's abused by his parents as
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: burns on his arms. You know that his home life
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: is not great. And as a child, he has an
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: excuse to act like a complete fucking asshole, because you
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: can get away with that until you're about 18. So
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Vernon is taking this so personally about this student that
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: he teaches that he's going to track him down years
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: later and kick the shit out of him? What the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with you?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: This comes back later in an interesting way. Okay.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know specifically what you're referring to, but.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: We'll get to it. This gets leveled. Absolutely.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Ryan, just a segue for a second.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I know you love when the basement is disgusting and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a disaster, and you hate when I clean it when
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a guest comes over. And whenever you come in the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: basement and it's particularly nasty, you're like, this is what
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I want.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: What does it mean?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: The basement has slowly been deteriorating into a piss and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: shit dungeon.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Because of me. No, because Chucky was just like a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: tipping point where Three cats is too many cats for
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the litter box situation. And I told you that Chucky
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: started marking his scent on our dirty clothes because it
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: smells like us. So when I left dirty clothes on
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the ground in the basement, he would pee on them
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: because it smells like us. And now I can't do
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that anymore. But he peed everywhere. And I cleaned up
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the pee with vinegar. But he still sometimes pees random places.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And they're pooping all the time. And I clean the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: litter box every day. But there started to be flies
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: in the basement.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And I think it's because of the poop situation. So
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I bought like fly glue sticks that you hang from
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the ceiling and I put them in the basement. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the new fun thing with that is I walk into
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: them and get the glue all over my arm or
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: my shirt or my face. It's just a real fun
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: time down here.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Do you see a lot of flies on the sticks
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: or no?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Honestly, no. You know how there's the teeny little fruit flies?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: These are like big black horse flies. I probably saw
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: over the course of the last two months, I've seen
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like ten. Ten? But I haven't seen one knock on
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: wood in about a week. So something's working. Either I'm
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: being better with the litter box cleanup or the glue
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: traps or they just die sometimes. Like the cats will
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: kill the fly if they catch it. But also, yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Weather maybe too. I mean, it hasn't been that significant
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of a change. When it gets cooler, you see a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: lot less of them. Yep.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So it's a real awful situation down here.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Well, don't let that fly get in the cat maker
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: because you know what's going to happen.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Ryan, this is my son. But anyways,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: back to what movie were we talking about? The Fly?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: The Fly 2?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: We should do The Fly 2.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I would do The Fly. The Fly is disgusting.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I would love to. I haven't seen it in forever. Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: course i think we talked about a little bit on
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the horror remakes episode right i think we talked about
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit on that one yeah yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It's there's a like horror is definitely the genre where
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the remakes can easily be better than the original totally
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and the fly is one i think evil dead is
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: one i think friday the 13th is one i think
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of examples but.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Anything actually you should say just watch it for the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: first time the original one never seen it was it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: good It was very good, I gotta say. I mean, obviously,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the 80s one's incredible, but I was like, wow, this
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: actually is really good. Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, and I don't fault us, because nothing is ever
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: our fault, because we're white men, but sometimes I think, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a great movie doesn't make for a great podcast, and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I love the thing so much, and I was listening
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to the podcast, and I was like, this is kind
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: of hard to follow, and it's like, you should just
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: watch this.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Really? Just like it was, like, It was like City
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of God, like too many characters thing.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like a City of God thing. That's another
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: good example. But anywho, you're lucky we make the podcast episode.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So if you have a.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Problem with them, shut up.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: It's worth it. The thing is worth it. Check it out.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: No matter what people describe it, watch it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The 2011 one too. I don't mean the 80s one. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: With Mary Elizabeth Winstead. So Vernon– Leaves Bender in the closet.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Bender instantly escapes into the ceiling tiles, which I respect.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And do you know this happened in Major League Baseball?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Albert Bell, the psychopath for the Cleveland Indians, was suspected
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: of corking his bat, and he was corking his bat.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: So the bat was put in an office with a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: locked door, and a team member in the Indians who
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: was small crawled into the ceiling and across the ceiling
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: tiles and into the office and stole the bat and
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: replaced it with a non-corked bat. That actually happened.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yep.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: So anyways, so Bender's crawling through the ceiling and he says,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: a naked blonde walks into a bar with a poodle
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: under one arm and two foot salami under the other.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: She lays the poodle on the table. A bartender says,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I suppose you don't want a drink. The naked lady says,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and then he falls through the ceiling tile. And Ryan,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I've never known the punchline. Do you know the punchline?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I still don't know. I gotta find this out right now.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: They don't say it, right?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it in my research. The end to
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club joke. Okay, thank you, Reddit.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Naked lady walks into a bar carrying a poodle in
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: one hand and a three-foot salami in the other. Bartender says,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I guess you won't be needing a drink. The naked
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: lady says, I got these for my husband. Bartender says,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: good trade.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I get it. Okay. Play on words.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I got these for my husband like she was exchanging
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: her husband for them. Oh, now I get it. Got it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Now I get it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Ryan.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm a little slow. He falls through the ceiling
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: tiles and then jumps under a table as Vernon comes in.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Also, that drop, by the way. How was he like, okay?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's a super long drop. Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Bender, you're absolutely right. Bender just basically hides under a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: table and Vernon comes in and goes like, what the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: hell was that? And they're like, oh, I don't know.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And then it's realized, Bender realizes he's hiding under the
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: table where Claire is and he's, he didn't even do
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it on purpose, but he looks up and he's looking
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: directly up her skirt and can see her panties.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And his reaction is he puts his face up her skirt.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: And I've said it how many times? Benders does not
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: age well.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: No. Doesn't age well.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Vernon leaves and Benders is like, let's all smoke weed.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Andrew also doesn't age well. Very cringe. Yo, wasteoid. You're
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: not going to blaze up in here. They all eventually
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: end up smoking weed. Brian instantly becomes cool. He's wearing
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: sunglasses and is, like, chill and awesome. Love that. Claire says,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I am so popular, everyone likes me.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yikes.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: That's what she says when she's high. But the absolute
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: worst part of this scene is, why don't you explain, Andy,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Emilio Estevez, how he reacts to the weed. So he's...
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: This is the worst part of the movie by far.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very, very corny. He's like fish tanking himself
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: in an office in the library. So it's a room
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: filled with smoke. He then comes out of the room,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: starts running, dancing around, yelling. He goes back into the room,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: closes the door, and he screams and the glass explodes
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: out of the door. Like weed made him insane.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: He does this insane energetic dance. He does cartwheels and
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: they're playing this fast paced music. None of it makes sense.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: That's not like John Hughes. Nobody who worked in this
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: movie has ever smoked weed before. And then he, he,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the glass shatters from him yelling, right?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's literally what it is.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: John Hughes said that's the only regret he had about
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: this movie is the glass should not have shattered.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels so out of place because the movie
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: gets so personal and real with these guys that it
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: just seems like it's too much of like, oh, this
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: is a comedy. Throw something in here. It's stupid and funny.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Meanwhile, to pass the day, Vernon is reading
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: employee personnel files.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: And Carl, the janitor, comes in, and Vernon's like, Carl,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: you know, we're friends. You're not going to share with anybody.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that I'm doing this. Like, what can I do for
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: you where you wouldn't share? And Carl says, give me
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: 50 bucks. And he goes, what? And Carl says, give
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: me 50 bucks. And I won't tell anyone respect to Carl.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Also, I think this gives a, this might be, I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: think the indicator that like Vernon is not a principal
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of any kind. I would assume he had like access
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to that kind of thing.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: That's a good, that's a good point. Um, they're, hanging
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: out in the library talking it's revealed brian is a
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: fake id they ask brian why would you have a
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: fake id you're such a goody two-shoes what does brian
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: say i needed to vote so i can vote and
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that's a serious crime brian.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Also stop the steal allison stole she just guesses his
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: whole life you think like wow she's like preternaturally gifted
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and she's like no i saw your wallet.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I was like, obviously she stole his wallet. How
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: else would she know that?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Their reaction to her is like, how do you know
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: all this? But I just thought it was so funny
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that she just was like rattling this stuff off from memory.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: To me, buying beer with a fake ID is a
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: better thing to do than voting with a fake ID.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Also, isn't there like way more verification than just like
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: your ID, like your license?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if you register to vote,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: like I just walk in and they go, what's your name?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And I say, Tim Cuff. And they go, okay. That's
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: all that happens. Yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: It's like he's not a registered motorist, my guess, right? Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Brian asked Allison a very mean but fair question. He says,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: are you going to be like a shopping bag lady,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: you know, like sitting in alleyways, talking to buildings, wearing
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: men's shoes, that kind of stuff? And then Allison says,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I'll do whatever I have to do. Brian says, well,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: why do you have to do anything like that? And
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: she says, my home life is unsatisfying. So the one
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: thing that all these kids have in common, they're very,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: very different. They hate their parents. They kind of hate
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: their lives. They kind of hate the dynamics of high school.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And this is another reason why I think it's harder
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: to be a kid than an adult. High school is tough, man.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I think high school is tough because you don't know
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: fucking anything about life. You have no wisdom. You have
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: no idea what you're doing. You have no idea who
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: to trust. Like people betray you. You haven't figured out
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the dynamics of human relationships fully like you have as
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: a full formed adult like friends in high school will
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: betray each other or like hook up with you know
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: oh I hooked up with my friend's girlfriend that kind
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of shit happens in high school doesn't happen as much
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: as an adult high school kids are mean I already
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: talked about how you can be bullied in high school
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and you can't really in like your office I.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Think that's not always true.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: That's not always true, but you know, for the most part,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: it's very true.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I know. I know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And your hormones, you're irrational. You don't understand like sex.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: There's so much pressure to be so many things. You
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: feel like you can't be yourself. I just think high
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: school is fucking tough.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Your volume is turned up and so is everybody else's. Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like emotionally I had a very hard time
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: in high school. I know I've talked to Eric about this.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Eric emotionally had a hard time in high school. Do
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: you feel like you did? Because obviously I'm not in
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: your brain, but I feel like you were fine. But
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: That's a great question. What a terrible answer to start with.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think I was going through a lot. Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. To be honest, I just don't. Yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Andy says, well, everyone's home life is unsatisfying. If it wasn't,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: we would live with our parents forever. Fair. And then
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Allison reveals she has all this shit in her purse
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: because she wants to run away. And Andy says, either
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: you really want to run away or you keep all
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: this shit in your purse because you want people to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: think you run away.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Which.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Allison indicates is very mean. And Allison says.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: But it's also calling out her version of what Bender does, right?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Bender's whole lashing out at people. It's this whole thing of,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I want to give people the impression of X even
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: though I'm Y.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. Allison says, well, you, Andy, do everything
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: everybody ever tells you to do, and that's a problem.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And Andy says, well, I didn't dump my purse out
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and invite everyone to ask me about it. What is it?
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Is it really that bad? Real bad? Your parents? And
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Allison says, yes. And Andrew says, what do your parents
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: do to you? And Allison says, they completely ignore me.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that's not the same as being
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: beaten and burned, but that is definitely a form of abuse.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: If your parents don't give a shit about you.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: And that's why some kids act out. Some kids act
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: out to get beaten and burned because that's the only
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: way they can get their parents to interact with them.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get attention. Yeah.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Back to Vernon and Carl.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Love this. This is that I was talking about earlier. Yeah.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: This is an amazing scene. So Vernon says, oh, actually,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: you know what? I'm going to pause for a second.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, we're back. I'm going to be Vernon and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: you be Carl, okay?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to make a serious point here, Carl. I've
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: been teaching for 22 years, and each year these kids
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: get more and more arrogant.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have this part of the dialogue then.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: All right, well, we're going to pause again. Craig, Craig, Craig, Craig.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I was at work. I was going to text you guys,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: but it was one of the things where I think
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: it's funny in my head but wasn't funny in real life.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Tim, I just want to warn you.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Craig has been doing this thing where he's country Craig,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and he's talking on Southern accent now. It's really embarrassing,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: but just go with it when we do the podcast
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: in person.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: If he wore a cowboy hat, I would be so
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: supportive of this reinvention of himself.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I love he makes people call him Country Craig. Country Craig.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: All right, you ready for this?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I got it, yeah.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm trying to make a serious point here, Carl.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I've been teaching for 22 years, and each year these
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: kids get more and more arrogant.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Ah, bullshit, man. Come on, Vern. The kids haven't changed.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: You have. You took a teaching position because you thought
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: it would be fun, right? Thought you could have a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: summer vacations off. Then you found out it was actually work.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: And that really bummed you out.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: No, these kids turned on me. They think I'm a
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: big fucking joke.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Come on. Listen, Vern. If you were 16, what would
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: you think of you, huh?
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Carl, you think I give a rat's ass about what
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: these kids think about me?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: You think about this. When you get old, these kids,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: when I get old, they're going to be running the country.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: And the thought that wakes me up in the middle
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: of the night is when I get older... These kids
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: are going to be taking care of me.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on it. Dunk dunk by Carl. I,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: when you read this verbatim, it looks like on paper,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like Carl is agreeing with Vernon by saying, I wouldn't
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: count on it. But I think that is the counterpoint
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to what Vernon was saying to, um, my God, to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Bender in the closet. We're like, They're not going to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: take care of you, not because they think you're an asshole.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It's because you are telling them you don't care.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: And it's not about the teacher-student dynamic. It's about being
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: human beings. Yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. Now they're talking about sex in
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the library. Allison says she's a nymphomaniac. She slept with
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: her psychologist. They ask Claire if she's a virgin. Allison says,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: and this is the trap for all women. Well, if
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you haven't had sex, you're a prude. If you have
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: had sex, you're a slut. It's a trap. You want to,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: but you can't. But when you do, you wish you didn't, right?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: And then they keep attacking and antagonizing Claire, and she admits,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a virgin. Allison says, I'm also a virgin. I'm
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: just a compulsive liar. I didn't have sex with a
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: ton of men, including my psychologist. Allison says, however, I
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: would have sex if I love someone. I think it's okay.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Um....
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Very fair. But here's the thing with women. If you
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: don't flirt at all and you don't have sex, you're
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: a prude. If you flirt but do not have sex,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: you're a tease. And if you have sex, you're a slut.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: So it's lose, lose, lose.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Bad dynamic. Bad dynamic. Bad dynamic.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: You know, it's almost as if our society is a
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: little bit sexist. Shannon O'Leary told me that society is sexist,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: but I said, shut up.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And that's just it right there in a nutshell, right?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean. Now it's revealed, why
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: did Andy get detention? And he taped a kid's butt
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: cheeks together.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And he says, well, you know how hairy he is, right? Well,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: when they pulled the tape off, most of his hair
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: came off and his skin too. And Brian's like, yeah,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: that was my friend... That was really traumatic for him. Like,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: he's going to probably have memories about that until the
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: day he dies. So.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Did you ever know any kids in your life that were, like,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: bullied so badly, like, they did anything drastic? You don't
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: have to say that. You don't have to say them, obviously. But, yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: So there was not kids at Marion. Like, I honestly
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: think I've always said middle school is worse than high school.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Middle school, to me, is what.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: This is what high school is in movies. High school
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: in movies is not really like that. It's like more mellow.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: And people are like.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: More mature and kind of chilled. Not– to an extent.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Middle school, they are straight sociopath serial killer maniacs. There
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: was a girl who had– her last name is Cote
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and her locker was next to mine and she was obese.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: And we never really spoke but like I never bullied her.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I never said anything about her. And I remember there
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: was this fucking asshole kid who would like– he literally
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: came up to her and he was like, hey– I
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: don't want to say her name. And he goes, hey,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: let's pretend it's Brenda. Hey, Brenda, you fat bitch. And
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: he knocks her books out of her hands and all
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: of her books fall onto the floor next to me
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and then he just walks away. So I bend over
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and I pick up her books and I handed the–
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I remember– Brian, this memory has burned into my brain.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I was in seventh grade, OK?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: So I don't know anything about anything. I'm like 13, 12.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I pick up all of her books for her and
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I hand them to her and I said, here you go.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Because I just felt so much empathy for her in
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: that moment. And her reaction was, she ripped the books
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: out of my hand and said, fuck you, to me.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: And then she like stormed off in tears. And I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: thought to myself, oh my God, this girl is so
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: bullied and damaged that I did a nice thing for
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: her and she doesn't even know how to process or
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: handle that.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And it's almost like she's afraid to say it to them.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: So saying it to you kind of thing, you know
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Even in that moment at that age, I was
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: so young. I got it even in that moment. And
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I wasn't mad at all that she said that. And
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: it burned into my brain. Like this poor, poor girl.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: There was a kid. I was not in the middle
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: school when this was happening, but there's a kid in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: my elementary school. who was bullied a lot, it got
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: so much worse. in middle school his family moved away
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: you think about that like you you're a homeowner you
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: had to move and buy it to do all that
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: work that's how bad it was the family moved away
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: it was that.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Bad pap had a neighbor that committed suicide in like
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: middle school But yeah, I, I never, I would bully
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: my friends. Like I would make fun of my friends
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: or like give my friend a dead arm, but I
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: would never bully a kid that I wasn't friends with.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I just think that's bizarre. And yeah.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't bully your friends, but like, I don't know.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I think like ball busting can turn into bullying.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: What that, what that kid was doing to the girl
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: at the locker next to me was not relentless.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's just insane. Yeah.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: So I said, I said to AI– so I have
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: insane conversations with AI. It's coming for me. I'm the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: first one it's going to kill. But I always share
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the conversations with Brian. And I remember one is I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: was like, there was this girl when I was– this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: is all made up. This is entirely fictional just to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the listeners. But I just think I wanted to hear
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: what AI said. There was this girl in high school
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I used to bully and I feel really bad about it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And I want to reach out to her and apologize.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Do you think I should? And I was like, maybe.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: What was the extent of your bullying? And I said, well,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: she was a little overweight. So we called her Hogger.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And when she would walk down the hall, we would
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: make pig noises and put our noses up. And then
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: we had this slop bucket where kids would pour like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: milk or leftover lunch or they'd spit in it.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: We had this slop bucket. Like it's the most like, oh, yeah,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: it's high school. Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: And they'd spit in it or whatever. Hawk loogies into it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: And I walked down the hall one day and I said,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: here's your slop, you pig bitch. And I dumped it
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: on her head. And then AI responded, I would not
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: reach out to this girl. This is not normal bullying.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And even like having you contact her in any way,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: even just to apologize, will be so traumatic for this girl. Like,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: please avoid her at all costs.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Her life is better with you out of it. Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: But that's like, that's like what I went pretty much
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: what I witnessed with this girl with the locker next
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to mine. She was bullied that bad. She's got to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: be affected for the rest of her life. And like,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I was bullied, not a lot, but there were moments
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: in my life where I was bullied and it seriously
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: traumatized me. Um, so if you're like relentlessly bullied, your
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: life can be fucked. Like I can't. Yeah. Anyways, go ahead.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: National trust issues. Yeah. It's just like, yeah. Understandably.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Even speaking out in public at your job when you're 30,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: if you're relentlessly bullied your whole life, you're going to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: be fucking terrified to do a PowerPoint presentation at your job.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: And people are not understanding of that. You can't tell
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: your boss, well, I don't want to do this PowerPoint
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: presentation because I was bullied in middle school. Your boss
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: will be like, I don't fucking care. We're paying you
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: 90 grand a year to do the presentation. You know
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Anyhow. So, okay, back to Andy bullying this boy. He said,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the bizarre thing is I didn't want to do it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I did it for my old man. I tortured this
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: kid because I thought my old man would think it
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: was cool. He's always going off about when he was
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: in school, the wild things he used to do. And
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I got the feeling he was disappointed in me that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I never cut loose. So Larry's undressing a couple lockers
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: down for me and he's skinny, weak. I start thinking
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: about my father and his attitude towards weakness. And the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: next thing I knew, I jumped on top of him
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: and I was wailing on him. And my friends were
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: laughing and cheering me on. Afterwards, when I was sitting
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: in Vernon's office, all I could think about was Larry's
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: father and Larry having to go home and explain what
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: happened to him and the fucking humiliation Larry.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Must have felt. So is Vernon the principal? I'm sorry
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to cut you off. He's just sitting in Vernon's office. Like,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: why else? If he's a teacher, I don't think he'd
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: be doing it, right?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. That's a good question.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I guess. Sorry. I didn't mean to torpedo you there. Sorry.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: But And he says, how do you apologize for doing
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: something like that? There's no way to apologize.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I fucking hate my father. He's this mindless machine I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: can't relate to anymore. He says, you've got to be
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: number one. I won't tolerate losers in this family. Win, win, win.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: You son of a bitch. Sometimes I wish my knee
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: would give out and I wouldn't be able to wrestle anymore.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: And he could just forget all about me. And Bender says,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: your dad and my dad should go bowling together.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: So I think it's like, Allison would kill for her
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: father to care about her the way Andy's father cares
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: about Andy. But, you know, it's kind of like, life
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: is a lot like the movie, Ryan, Wishmaster. No, Wishmaster 3.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Be careful what you wish for. You know, you could
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: get Andy's dad and it's not as swell as you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: think it is.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Allison.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: So I think that there's, there's baggage and bad things
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: about any situation.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Mystery men and wish master three in reference to the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: breakfast club. Do you think that's ever happened before?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Of course. Uh, Brian says, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: it's like me when I step outside myself, I just
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: don't see me. I really don't. It's like, it's like
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: with your grades, uh, And Claire says, what's wrong with you?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Why don't you like yourself, Brian? And Brian tells the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: story about shop. So do you want to share the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: story about Brian's shop project?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know the details on the project. There's no,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: he's failing shop.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: So basically he took, he's all about his GPA. He
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: wants to get into a good college. So he took
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: shop because he thought it would be easy. And then
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Bender says, why do you think shop would be easy?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Brian says, well, did you see some of the dopes
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: that take shop? And then when he says, do you
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: see some of the dopes that take shop? It cuts
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: to Molly Ringwald's face and she winces like, ooh. And
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Bender says, I take shop. You must be a fucking idiot.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: And Brian says, I'm a fucking idiot because I can't
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: make a lamp. No, you're a fucking genius because you
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: can't make a lamp. But anyways. So he goes, well,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you don't know anything about trigonometry. Bender says, I don't
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: give a fuck about trigonometry. Brian says, Without trigonometry, there'd
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: be no engineering. And then Bender says, without lamps, there'd
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: be no light. But Brian basically, he's like, I took
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: shop because I thought it'd be easy. We had to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: build a ceramic elephant lamp. I go to turn the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: lamp on. It wouldn't work. I got an F. And
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: he doesn't talk about.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: That's later.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: That's later.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. A little bit later. Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: There we go. Now it comes to my favorite part.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: of the movie.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: This is the part that leads to my former voicemail
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: greeting I talked about, Ryan.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Claire says, I have a secret talent, but you have
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: to promise not to laugh if I do it. And
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: they all go, we're in the circle of trust, we're
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: all getting high, do it. And what does Claire do?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Do you remember her secret talent?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I do. She puts a, opens a lipstick, stick, places
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it in her cleavage and is able to Do her lips.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: With the lips right there.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: That's correct. And Bender verbally attacks her for this, basically
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: being like, you're a shallow piece of shit. And they
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: point out, we all promised we wouldn't laugh at her.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And Bender says, I'm not laughing. I'm mad, but I'm
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: not laughing. And Andy says, you're a prick. And Bender
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: points out, why do you care what I think anyway?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I don't even count, right? I could disappear forever and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't make a difference. I may as well not
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: even exist at this school. And that's what Andy had
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: said to Bender earlier in the film.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I bet your dad bought you those earrings for Christmas, right?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: You know what I got for Christmas this year? It
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: was a banner fucking year at the old Bender family.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Got a carton of cigarettes. Old man grabbed me and said, hey,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: smoke up, Johnny. So go home and cry to your daddy,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: but don't cry here, okay?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: My note here. Is Bender's father Freddy Krueger?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: He's not in jail because there was a loophole?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: He's so comically over the top.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Smoke up, Johnny. I imagine Bender's father
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: is like a horrible alcoholic because that's the only thing
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: that explains his behavior.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: But Andy says, my God, are we going to be
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: like our parents? Claire says, not me ever. And Allison says,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: and this is a really good point, it's unavoidable. It
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: just happens. We all turn out like our parents. And
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Claire says, what happens? Allison says, when you grow up,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: your heart dies. And Bender, being the just never-ending badass, goes,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: who cares? And then Allison says, I care. Um, so
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: this is a really good point. And I think that's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: true to an extent. And there's, there's something magical about
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: being a teenager because you're almost an adult, but you're
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: a narcissist. You've, you've only been the main character in
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: your story. You have so much potential in front of you.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: You think you're going to go to college or do
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: great things or get a good job or make money
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: or find the love of your life. But that's all
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: in front of you. And I think the older you get,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: the more you realize your life didn't work out the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: way you want. You're jaded. You blink when the abyss
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: looks back at you. And then the older and older
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: you get, I was like, oh, my God. Like, how
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: can you not? The older you are, the more depressed
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I would be. Because let's say you lived forever. You know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: your friends die. Your siblings die. Your parents die. Maybe
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: even your children die. The longer you live. So the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: longer you live, the more, like, actual awful shit has
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: happened to you. obviously it's a sliding scale between like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: what happens to you at what age, but the longer
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: you live, the more opportunity you have to have your
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: heart and soul die. So I think there is definitely
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: truth to what Allison is saying.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also like when she's saying, I hope not.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: It's because you go from your parents. What are her
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: parents saying? like she said, they don't exist. It's the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: idea that she does not want to have kids that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: she pretends don't exist. You know what I mean? Does
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: she want to repeat what they're doing? I think also
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: her perspective there is very as like Bender's down, but
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: in a different way because Bender's parents, as bad as
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: it is, acknowledge his existence, where hers, I think she
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist at all.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, and this leads to my favorite part of the movie,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: which was my voicemail. Brian says, I was just thinking,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I know it's a weird time, but I was wondering, like, Monday,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: when we're all together again, I mean, I consider you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: guys my friends after today. I'm not wrong, am I?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: And Andy says, no. Brian says, so on Monday, what happens?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Claire says, are we still friends, you mean? If we're
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: friends now, that is? And Brian says, yeah. Claire asks,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: do you want me to tell you the truth? Brian says, yeah,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I want the truth. And Claire says, no, I don't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: think so. Allison clarifies, Claire, do you mean all of
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: us or do you just mean John? And Claire says,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I mean all of you. And then even Andy's disgusted.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: That's a real nice attitude, Claire. And Claire says, be honest, Andy.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Brian walks up to you in the hall on Monday.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: What do you do? I mean, picture this. You're there
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: with all your sport friends. I know exactly what you do.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: You'd say hi to him. And then when he left,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: you'd cut them all up to your friends so they
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: wouldn't think you really liked him. Andy says, I would
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: not do that. Allison said, what if I came up
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: to you, Claire? And Claire says, the exact same thing
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: would happen. Bender says, you are a bitch. And Claire says, what,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: because I'm telling the truth? That makes me a bitch?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Bender points out, no, because you know how shitty that
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: is to do to someone, and you don't have the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: balls to stand up to your friends and tell them
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: that you're going to like who you're going to like.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: And Claire says, okay, well, what about you, you hypocrite?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Why don't you take Allison to one of your heavy
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: metal vomit parties? Hashtag heavy metal vomit party. Or take
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Brian out to the parking lot at lunch to get high.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: What about Andy, for that matter? What about me? What
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: would your friends say if we were walking down the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: hall together? They would laugh their asses off, and you'd
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: probably tell them we were doing it so they'd forgive
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: you for being seen with me. Now, before I go further,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Claire is correct.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I wrote, Claire is being bender to bender, and that's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: why he hates it. Yeah.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: You are completely right, Ryan. Checkmate. Claire is being bender
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: to bender, and he hates it, but that is the truth.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: And then, Ryan, I'm going to close my eyes. I
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: don't want to look at the script right now because
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: this was my voicemail for several years. For several years,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: this was my voicemail. Bender, in response to that statement,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: says to Claire, don't you ever talk about my friends again.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: You don't know any of my friends. You don't look
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: at any of my friends. And you certainly wouldn't condescend
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: to speak to any of my friends. So you just
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: stick to the things that you know. Shopping, nail polish,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: your father's BMW, and your poor, rich, drunk mother in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: the Caribbean. And as far as what's going to happen
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: when you and me walk down the hallways of school,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: you can forget it. Because it's never going to happen.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Just bury your head in the sand and wait for
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: your fucking prom. I hate you.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Best line of the movie.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: So like when you heard this, like a voicemail after this,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: like what would it be like?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, we tried to deliver the pizza. I think you
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: weren't home. You can come pick it up.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Well, like what did I care when I was in college?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: And then when I graduated, my parents immediately were like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: you have to change your voicemail. You have to change
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: your voicemail.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I remember it was always just like doing joke stuff
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: like screaming or yelling voicemails that was always the big thing.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Just bury your head in the sand and wait for
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: your fucking prom I hate you yeah good that was
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the best part just like that line unbelievable Brian says
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I would never do that I would never sell you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: out for my friends I don't care what my friends
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: think and Claire says that's because your friends look up
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: to us And Brian says, you're so conceited. But again,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Claire is right. And Claire says, I hate this. I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: hate the peer pressure of going along with your friends.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do what they want to do,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: but I can't even put it into words. I just
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: feel like I have to. I feel trapped. And Claire's right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Claire's being Bender in this scene. It's the uncomfortable truth telling.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: And then Brian tells the story of why he is
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: in detention. Would you please tell that story?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Sure. so Brian, I had no memory of this in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: this movie. Brian brought a gun to school as he
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: tells the story and it went off near his locker
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: in his locker. And he was alluding to, or I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: don't think blatantly says that he was planning to commit suicide. And, um,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: It's revealed that it's actually a flare gun, not an
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: actual firearm, which they kind of make light of. But
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: I did not remember this being this heavy.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Well, also keep in mind, like, this is a straight-A student,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: maybe possible valedictorian. And he brought a flare gun to school,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: so he gets a Saturday detention. He would be arrested, expelled.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: His life would be over. He would not get into college.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Which is kind of rough. I mean obviously if a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: kid brings a gun to school, he brings a gun
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: to school. That's not good. You need to prevent school shootings.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: But it's like his life would be over in today's reality.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: They all laugh when Brian says it was a flare
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: gun and it went off in my locker. They think
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: that's hilarious, which it is.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: They do it. It is funny, but I like how
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: they don't like blatantly start laughing the second he says
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: flare gun. I like how like Emilio kind of cracks
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: first and they kind of get him to laugh about
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. So it's not like this, like, hey,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: we don't respect what you said. You know what I mean? Yes.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: And Allison reveals why she is in Saturday detention. Do
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: you remember?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: She came because she had nothing better to do. She
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: did not have detention.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: She just, again, the home life. Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: They, they convinced Brian, Brian, will you please write the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: paper for us? We don't want to write our own.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: And Brian's like, yeah, I know you're manipulating me to
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: do this. Cause I'm the smartest one here. They play
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: on his vanity. They go, you're the smartest one here.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: You should write it.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: And he said, oh, yeah.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: And then, uh, maybe the most problematic scene in the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: whole movie, would you.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Say with Alison?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't quite understand why this was in here.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: So what do they do with Allison?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: So Claire kind of gives Allison a makeover.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: A hot, preppy girl makeover.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I didn't understand where the seeds of this were.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know her and Emilio were getting closer
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: because they talk to each other about essentially how both
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: their parents don't care about them as people. They care
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: about Emilio, the idea of him, or being like, pressuring
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: their success onto him and not him as a person.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: And Allison's like, my parents would give a shit about
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: me at all. So there's always been kind of this
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: like edging them together, but I never understood this. I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: didn't understand this in the movie at all. Like there
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: was never talks about Allison not being happy about how
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: she looked. I don't think at least I just didn't
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: get this.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: So she walks out, dresses a preppy pretty girl now
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: with makeup, And Andy is like, whoa, you're really conforming
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: to my norms now. And I'm glad you completely changed
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: who you are. Not the best lesson. Yeah. Then Claire
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: leaves and shows up in Bender's closet. And Bender, great
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: line by him. He goes, you lost?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: And he smiles. And his smile, like the little subtle
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: moments where he's not just being angry mode. Judd Nelson
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: is so good in this. And another great fucking Bender line.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: He goes, hey, Claire, you know how you said before
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: how your parents use you to get back at each other?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't I be outstanding in that capacity? if you wanted
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: to piss your parents off and then Claire exactly like
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: this is me this is me in this moment being
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: like the punk rock kid Claire goes will you be
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: honest with me will you really discuss it about the
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: trick I did with my lipstick and Bender goes the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: truth no Bender's like, I thought it was really hot
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and I was turned on. But I would never have
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: said it in front of other people. That was me
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: in high school. And now they all, like, detention's over.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: They all leave. They go back to their seats. Bender's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: back in his closet. Vernon says, you guys can go.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Brian is picked up by his dad, who's played by
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: the director and writer John Hughes. Andy and Allison make
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: out in front of everyone.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Again, this seems so... Yeah.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Bender, probably the most dated wardrobe item, is Bender is
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: wearing mesh fingerless gloves.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: And Claire takes out one of her diamond earrings and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: puts it in his palm. And then Bender, who has
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: his ear pierced, because he's a 1980s badass, obviously... he
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: puts the diamond stud earring of Claire's into his ear.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: And the voiceover of Brian again reads the letter, which
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I read at the beginning, but really quickly. Dear Mr. Vernon,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: whole Saturday in attention for whatever it was we did wrong,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: but we think you're crazy to make an essay where
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: you're telling us who we think we are. You see
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: us as you want to see us in the simplest terms,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the most convenient definitions. Um... An athlete, a brain, a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: basket case, a princess, a criminal. Does that answer your question?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Sincerely yours, The Breakfast Club. And Bender is walking through
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: the football field. They start playing Don't You Forget About
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Me again by Simple Minds. Great fucking song. Also, great
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Billy Idol cover randomly.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Really? Wow.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Bender, last moment of the movie, he thrusts his
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: fist in the air in a silent cheer and then freezes.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: And that is the end of the movie. That's the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: end of The Breakfast Club.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Probably the most famous image from this movie. Yeah. Yeah. So,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: interesting when they come outside, too. You still don't see
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Allison's parents. You never show them or inside her car.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: And again, Bender walks home alone. What do you think
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: happens one day?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Honestly, truth. If I'm being real truth, I think probably
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: what Claire, like 75% of what Claire said, 25% of
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: them lingering and trying to hold on to Saturday. And
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: then over time, probably what Claire said. Yeah.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: But they always had this set. And I was like,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: what are the next seven Saturdays going to be like
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: for Bender? He's going to be like, Hey guys, um,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I know you're a new group of people and you
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: don't know me, but we're supposed to have this really
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: existential day.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: He's like Jack in Lost. He gets on the plane
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: again hoping it crashes.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I have to go back. We have to go back.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: But it's so funny because when you think of these
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: kind of movies where they're just truly at one moment
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: in these people's lives, small moment, it's like you only
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: see them in this moment. in this snapshot and not
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: in actual school with other kids they're other people so
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: it's like weird because they were separated they're of course
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: able to like say things they probably can't say to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: their own friends obviously especially what um claire said but
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: like it is kind of funny i think the movie
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: when bender puts the earring is is almost like this
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: bizarre keepsake and it's just like it's like they have
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: a breakthrough but does anything really change i don't know Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: For the long term. You know, it's tough. And I wrote, like,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: this makes me feel very sad and nostalgic. And why
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: this is such a good movie is this is not
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: a me generation movie. Like, I have nostalgia for this
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: movie like people have nostalgia for Goonies that they saw
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: when they were a kid or some other movie. This
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: movie came out, like, 20 years before I was in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: high school.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: This just captures that moment so well in a timeless way.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: And when I watched this movie, it takes me back
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: to being in high school, experiencing this movie, experiencing these feelings.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: And that's like, this was not a, a my generation movie.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: So like that to me shows how effective it is.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to share, there was like my big
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: high school romance was I had this huge crush on
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: this girl that had a boyfriend and we became very
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: very close friends and i was like in love with
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: her and it was not reciprocated but i remember at
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: one point because it was not reciprocated i was like
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: i have to move on i have to date other
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: people and i started dating this girl that was a
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: camp counselor at my summer job um i was a
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: camp counselor in framingham and so i started dating this
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: girl and i brought her to a party for my
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: high school friends And the girl that I had a
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: crush on was there who had a boyfriend who was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: like really close with me. So I think that she
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: loved me in a way and loved the attention and
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: wanted– but wasn't going to like dump her boyfriend and
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: be with me. But she was furiously jealous that I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: brought this girl to the party.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: And she– we got in a huge fight about it
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: and she was like, I– was so angry at you. Like,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: I almost did something I regret. I won't even go
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: into what that was. But she was like, I can't
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: believe what you did. And I go, what did I do?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: And she said, you brought her to that party and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: like waved her in my face. You watched The Breakfast
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Club with her. That was our movie. I swear on
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: my life, that's what she said. You watched The Breakfast
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Club with her. That was our movie. And my response was,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: you have a boyfriend. what am I supposed to do here?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to watch the breakfast club. You have
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend, which is worse, which is more like cheating
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: on each other. You having an active boyfriend or me
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: watching the breakfast club with somebody else. That was a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: fight we got into. So shout out the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 1: You think she's going to call in?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. I think about it. I pray for
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: that Ryan every day.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm here. That's why I've been doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I heard she's dating Joe Schlob now.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Honestly. Probably why we haven't heard from him in a while.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: But... Well, sorry. Were you going to say something?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: No, go ahead. Sorry.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club advice.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask before we do advice. Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever heard this? It was... I think it's been
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: more and more recently talked about. John Hughes has a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: quote unquote, like three to four hour cut of this
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  Speaker 1: movie that he personally loves that he has like completely
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: finished and edited that either his wife or his family
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  Speaker 1: has said he would watch every year at home that
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  Speaker 1: he liked. This was like his version of the movie
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: that he loved the most and had everything in it.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard about that? Why don't they release it?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think he ever made it to be released.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was the idea. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was like meant to be the director's cut. I
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  Speaker 1: think he just loved these characters so much. He just
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: wanted more of it for himself. So he has like
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  Speaker 1: this version of the movie. It's like three and a
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: half hours, four hours long. Cause like, I think like
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  Speaker 1: when he passed away and of course, like when the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: breakfast club was like turning certain, I don't know. I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: feel like when people talk about this movie, like on
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: podcasts and stuff, they always brought up this thing of like,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: there's this rumored cut of this movie that only he had.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Cause he just loved the movie so much in the characters.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Now I've never heard that. Oh, I would love
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: to see it. This is a very short movie. It's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: 95 minutes.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: It's flew by this movie. I was actually kind of
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: surprised when it ended. Yeah, it does fly by, which
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: is probably good.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Um, my, my breakfast club advice is high school is tough.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I think being an adult is better. I have, um,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I get paid money to do my job, and though
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: I'm struggling with finances as every American is, I can
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: still buy a sandwich for lunch when I want at
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: a nice place. I don't have to eat at a cafeteria.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get bullied. I can hang out in my
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: house naked and drink whiskey and play video games for
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: five hours. There's no one that is regulating my life.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: I have complete autonomy. I have wisdom. I have shit
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: figured out that I didn't 20 years ago. 30 years ago. So...
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  Speaker 2: High school is really tough. And all the high school...
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: The Gen Z fan base is massive. In Vietnam. All
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: the high schoolers listening to this. It's like the Lady
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: Gaga thing. It gets better. It gets better. It definitely
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: gets better. Don't... Kill yourself. Because of high school. High
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: school is fucking stupid. It's a prison. Filled with mean,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: irrational people. And teachers... that realize that their life has
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: been a failure and they take it out on kids. Like,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: high school sucks. If you're having a hard time with
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: high school, that's fine. That's normal. It's going to be okay.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: You're going to figure it out. That's my advice. What's
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: your advice, Ryan?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Wow. What Carl said when he said I wouldn't count
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: on it I think you really don't know the effect
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: you have on people, regardless of what role you play
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: in their life. So Vernon, who's dreading the future because
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: he thinks these kids are going to be in charge
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: and be the same people they are now when they're older,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: is just a complete fundamental misunderstanding of his role in
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: their lives. And that like you, I feel like you
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: impress upon people the way you are regardless of what
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: spot they are in their lives. So just think, I have,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: this is really bad advice, but I guess it's just
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: too dumb advice, but, um, the world is small. Treat people. Well,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they'll treat you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I also think Carl is a great point about
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: the bullshit of each generation since the dawn of man.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: You know, like, thousands of years ago, there was a
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: group of parents saying, this generation is lazy and bad,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: and they don't want to spear a woolly mammoth, right?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: We're telling them how to spear a woolly mammoth, but
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: they're lazy, and they don't care, and they're doing their
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: own thing, and they're playing with rocks, and we never
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: had rocks when I was growing up. Like, every generation
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: is the fucking same. We're saying, millennials are saying the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: same thing about Gen Z, so.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, boomers are saying this about us. Every generation is.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: So if you think, oh, this generation of kids, they
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: really are the worst. They're worse than my generation. No,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: you're wrong. That's always happened.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the same boat as that. Yeah, I'm
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: in the same boat as that. I feel like a
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: lot of people who complain about, oh, well, this group
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: would do this. I'm like, guys, do you think your
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: parents said the exact same thing about you? It's just
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: like fact.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: So there's some article about this woman in Virginia or
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: something is getting charged with criminal negligence because she let
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: her five-year-old like walk to the park and hang out alone.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: And now all these like boomers and other people online
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: are supporting her. And they're like, in my day, children
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: could just explore in the park and parents are so
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: soft and blah, blah, blah. And I go– like I
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: literally was thinking like in your day, people got fucking
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: kidnapped and raped and then appeared on a milk carton.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: And we learned that maybe a five-year-old shouldn't go to
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: the park. Would I let CeCe at five walk to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: the park alone and play by herself?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: No. I wouldn't because I listen to true crime podcasts.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: And I know about like Adam Walsh. So, you know,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: like don't think, oh, we had a– We did this
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: in my day and it made us tougher. No, it
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: probably made you stupider or more likely to have cancer
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: or dead. So, shut the fuck up about your death.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: It didn't hurt me. Well, guess what? It did hurt someone.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: You know, like, well, my dad, like, as Betty says
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: to Don in Mad Men, like, you need to discipline
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: your kids physically to teach them a lesson and make
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: them tough or whatever and Don says my father beat
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: me all the time and all it did was make
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: me fantasize every day about how I would murder him
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: yeah just cause kids were tougher in your day doesn't
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: mean that they were it was right or it was
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: better um but anyways this is a 90 minute episode
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: so we need to end it here um thank you
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: for listening buckle your shoes and we will catch you
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: on the flood Thank you.