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- 0:00Regenerate regenerative waiting here for Angus.
- 0:16It is a holistic way of growing food that focuses on repairing
- 0:20and improving the land. And I think that is Angus
- 0:30arriving right there. Testing and mixing issues
- 0:34breaks. I'm with my friend Farm Angus.
- 0:40I am a farmer. I'm a regenerative farmer. 20
- 0:43years ago I lived in London. I was a stockbroker for Goldman
- 0:46Sachs. I've had a very interesting 180°
- 0:51travel from my belief system when I was at Goldman Sachs to
- 0:53now we use animals as part of our regenerative programme.
- 0:58So this whole idea that car farts are killing the world is
- 1:01total rubbish. Animals rejuvenate and
- 1:04regenerate. And, and just one macro point I
- 1:08want to make is I've banned the word sustainability on the farm.
- 1:10So the reason I banned it is because I don't believe there's
- 1:14anything, anything anywhere in the world we want to sustain
- 1:17today. Nothing we want to sustain.
- 1:19Everything has got to be made better.
- 1:22Jeremy, you tried a beautiful afternoon to come here.
- 1:29Just prepared these steals for some rebos.
- 1:31Come and have a look here. Climb up here.
- 1:35These are chicken feathers. Am I good to go?
- 1:37Yeah. These are chicken feathers from
- 1:40a free range abattoir in South Africa and the rest of the
- 1:43world. 85% of chicken feathers become feather meal which is fed
- 1:48back to chickens. What we do with it is we mulch
- 1:50in our vineyards. So those are young vines, old
- 1:53vines we we gave last year. So if you look here, this is
- 1:58last year's feathers that are broken up.
- 2:02OK. Now unfortunately on camera, you
- 2:05can't smell anything. OK, but this, this beautiful
- 2:12rich earth that is from chicken feathers breaking down.
- 2:18So in Europe and in the US, you're not allowed to use any
- 2:21animal waste for anything, OK. And then these, these are the
- 2:26fresh, fresh feathers that we've put around the baby, the baby
- 2:31plant. There's a farmer I know in
- 2:34Eastern Cape who gets 2 lemon harvests every year.
- 2:38The question was what the hell does he do?
- 2:40How does he do that? He mulches his orchards with
- 2:45sheep's wool and, and, and so accordingly he was getting this
- 2:53unbelievable fertility from sheep's wool.
- 2:55And I tried to find sheep's wool, couldn't find it.
- 2:57Then these Kenyan farmers, these Maasai farmers came here and
- 2:59said why are you stuffing around with sheep's wool?
- 3:01Just get chicken feathers. So were you five years into
- 3:03using chicken feathers in our vineyards?
- 3:05Why do you have? Italian because I'm trying to
- 3:08learn Italian. I used to have Russian, but it's
- 3:12Russian. I don't have the time to learn
- 3:14Russian, so now I'm trying to learn Italian.
- 3:16Why? Because Zulu was the first
- 3:19language that I spoke and I can do well with languages and
- 3:26Italians, I want to speak Italian.
- 3:27This is what you need to focus on.
- 3:29Can you see that? Yes, OK this is exhibit one in
- 3:34the human beings are committing species wild suicide scenario
- 3:39tell. Me more.
- 3:41Look at it. It's a global use of pesticides
- 3:44over the last 30 years. OK, if you had had your child's
- 3:50placenta analysed, you'd find 162 artificial chemicals in
- 3:54there. Breast milk's got 280 or
- 3:57something in it. Breast milk's God's purest
- 3:59creation, and it's contaminated. Where's the watermongolani?
- 4:15OK. And the waggons.
- 4:16The salt waggons there. I want to show my friend.
- 4:19OK, Mangolani, this is my friend Germ.
- 4:23Can I tell you there are a lot of fat cattle in here?
- 4:25Hey, please send me a WhatsApp quickly.
- 4:27Now to say slaughter, because even some of these oxen are
- 4:31starting to look really fat. Hey, how's life look for
- 4:40something here? OK, this is interesting.
- 4:45You see, these are nodules. OK?
- 4:51These nodules are filled with risobacteria.
- 4:54So this is a plot. It's called Lupin.
- 4:57It's a legume. See, I'm breaking off.
- 5:00See, See. See these these guys.
- 5:02OK, these pink nodules. This is a brilliant sign.
- 5:05What it means is that the, the, this plant is fixing nitrogen.
- 5:10So nitrogen is the most available thing in the sky.
- 5:13The sky is like 70% nitrogen, very little oxygen.
- 5:17So in a, in a regenerative system, you want as many legumes
- 5:21as possible, but they don't. So, so the fact that we've got
- 5:26the legumes and that they're nodulating is amazing.
- 5:29So what happens if they called a rise of bacteria lives in the
- 5:31roots that's in that pink thing and they then pull the nitrogen
- 5:34out of the atmosphere and make it available for themselves and
- 5:37for the other plants in the area.
- 5:41That is a very that's germ. Thank you for being here, buddy.
- 5:46That makes me so happy to see. OK, Germ, come and listen here,
- 6:02buddy. OK, So what percentage of
- 6:06antibiotics do you think go to animals?
- 6:09I know the answer OK, it's about 80 to 90.
- 6:11Percent, 90% of antibiotics go to animals and only 10% to
- 6:15humans. And why is that?
- 6:16Because animal agriculture is ordained.
- 6:19That or humans have ordained that animal agriculture should
- 6:22be done in their toilets. That's what they are.
- 6:24They're in their toilets, so that's why you're using
- 6:28antibiotics, because they're sick and challenged.
- 6:30So we, these animals, I can't say will never have an
- 6:35antibiotic, but most of them will never, ever have had an
- 6:37injection in their lives. These animals, most of them will
- 6:40never, ever get an injection. I think year to date we've
- 6:42injected one, OK? And there's two reasons for it.
- 6:45The first is we move them twice a day, every single day, to
- 6:50fresh pasta, OK? At the same time, we wait six
- 6:55weeks before they come back the same spot.
- 6:57So the parasite cycle's broken. That's reason number one reason
- 7:00#2 is this thing OK? It's called a free choice.
- 7:04Mineral lick works as follows. All soils are deficient.
- 7:08All plants growing in the soil are deficient.
- 7:11All animals eating the plant are deficient.
- 7:13Deficiency manifests as disease. These animals, they have the
- 7:16intelligence to know what they, what they're missing.
- 7:18So they come in here, they push up with their noses, then
- 7:21they'll self medicate, OK? What is this like minerals and
- 7:25salts? A.
- 7:26Whole range of different minerals OK.
- 7:30And they lifted up on the air. Push up their noses.
- 7:33This is this is for example, kelp hof kelp hof, diatomaceous
- 7:36earth. This is a Pat Colby, Australian
- 7:39vet dolomitic lime, copper sulphate, sulphur dust.
- 7:43So the the the the principal germ is is the principle is 30%
- 7:48of what they take in fixes the internal imbalance.
- 7:51The rest comes out the back end biologically available.
- 7:54And that goes back into the soil.
- 7:55In a biological form, that's key because it's been through a
- 7:58human process. No chemicals.
- 8:00That's why it's so good to pee on your plants, Jim.
- 8:04You know you're giving, you're giving, you're giving them
- 8:07biological nutrients. Angus, what sort of beef is
- 8:12this? So these are the the smaller
- 8:15ones are limousine Simontola crosses.
- 8:19This guy's a limousine Red Angus cross.
- 8:23So you can see he's very muscled, OK.
- 8:26But if you look at his back, he's almost got this line, looks
- 8:29like a hamstring line. That's not he's not fat yet.
- 8:32OK, So he'll slaughter. There's this magnificent
- 8:35carcass. But beef, you need fat.
- 8:37That's where the flavour is. OK, so these things are
- 8:43hopelessly too small. Are you aware that you've lost
- 8:45all vegan audience right now? What I can tell you is last
- 8:49week, last week, my staff got paid out 650,000 Rand in carbon
- 8:56credits. What's what's that?
- 8:57What's that in dollars? I think it's they got the same,
- 9:04I got the same 1.3 million Rand in total payout.
- 9:07So it's maybe $80,000 something, they get $85,000.
- 9:12I'm not sure. The exchange rate is 90,000.
- 9:14Whatever the the the maybe it's a bit less cheap as my maths is
- 9:18appalling. What is the exchange rate?
- 9:22And you had Goldman Sachs? 20 years ago maybe.
- 9:27So the point is that that that we would never been paid those
- 9:31carbon credits if we hadn't increased the carbon in the
- 9:33soils. And how do we do it through
- 9:35animals. Whereas on the vegan way, you
- 9:38can't increase the carbon, you can only burn it up because you
- 9:40have to use artificial fertilisers.
- 9:42So. So germ purely from a
- 9:46regenerative a, a, a, a regenerative aspect, veganism is
- 9:51disqualified. Yes.
- 10:01It looks like a fat. There.
- 10:02It just turned its head. You got it.
- 10:04Yeah, there it is. Turn its head again.
- 10:06Yeah, owls have chased it out of that ficus there.
- 10:09That's that. The crows chased it out.
- 10:11Now the poor owl, it's broad daylight and it's traumatised by
- 10:16the crows. OK, Jim, so these are free.
- 10:34Range. Are you trying?
- 10:36Are you trying to be funny? Free range is consumer fraud.
- 10:41Free range is what you think you're buying when you buy
- 10:43chickens, when you buy eggs. I love my honey.
- 10:47I love my beautiful. Oh yes, that is so lacquer.
- 10:51That is a back rub. I've never lacquer If you UK
- 10:54kind of people know what lacquer means.
- 10:55But lacquer is is better than nice.
- 11:06I mean, the free range is genuinely consumer fraud because
- 11:10because with free range, they you, you're expecting to find
- 11:14this green fields, moving animals, but you're not free
- 11:18range. They live in a big barn.
- 11:21There's a tiny little opening on the side of the barn.
- 11:23There's no incentive for them to go out.
- 11:26And ecologically speaking, free range is as bad as caged.
- 11:30Why? Because they're manure builds up
- 11:32in one place. Your housing's not mobile.
- 11:34Look at this, the housings mobile, you see the cattle move
- 11:37every day. So, so, so animals are part of
- 11:41regenerating an ecosystem. But the way animals are farmed,
- 11:44it's not regenerating anything because the manure is kept in
- 11:47one place and then it's a huge problem dealing with it.
- 11:50So do these chickens move also? Every single day we move these
- 11:53egg movies. So it helps the grass also.
- 11:58Of course, this is all natural, naturally grown Hala Mahanis.
- 12:18How many chickens have you got here, Angus?
- 12:20In total in the form 6000 hens, but in in this batch 1000 hens.
- 12:25So then obviously this makes the eggs premium?
- 12:30But they're more nutrient dense than other eggs.
- 12:32We've done amino acid profiling on them and the other eggs are
- 12:35dishonestly priced. The cost of of the waste of the
- 12:38of the of of tidying up the waste that's not in the price,
- 12:44yes, must be taught. Come if you look here, Jim, OK,
- 13:03If you feel there, that is the totality of her breast.
- 13:08Do you feel how little meat that is?
- 13:09Yeah, She's a laying machine. She's not a meat machine.
- 13:12It's like eating a marathon runner versus a sumo wrestler.
- 13:15But she lays a lot of eggs. But she's a laying machine.
- 13:19OK, let's go watch this be Moses potting the waters.
- 13:23Moses called the Mitsubishi Moses.
- 13:30You've also got pigs, but we don't have enough time not to go
- 13:33look because the sun's setting. Pigs, dude.
- 13:34We haven't even really spoken about wine, and we haven't
- 13:36spoken about Robots tea either. So I launched a wine brand last
- 13:39year. It took me 15 years to get the
- 13:42wines up to a standard that we were comfortable to release.
- 13:44One of the things we've done in the vineyard, if you remember
- 13:46that the vine is the plant of Dionyses just grows down
- 13:53straight, straight down. What is the opposite of
- 13:57Dionyses? Apollo.
- 14:00So we planted cypresses as the Apollonian tree.
- 14:03So it's the energy up and energy down little bit of balance.
- 14:07Oh, and those mountains, by the way, on the on the on the on the
- 14:09far distance across there is the reals mountains.
- 14:14Then that is Haldebach, Stellamosch Mountain, Fronchuk
- 14:18Mountain, Simmons, Bach, and if you look carefully you can just
- 14:22see Table Mountain under the clouds over there.
- 14:24It is Devil's Peak just sticking out under the cloud.
- 14:28So you also form pigs. Yes.
- 14:29So we are one of three people who produce pigs outdoors.
- 14:34You wouldn't believe it. With weather like this, everyone
- 14:36should have their pigs outdoors, but they're all in cages.
- 14:40But we are the only guys who cure without adding nitrites.
- 14:44Nitrites and phosphates and germ over here, I'll put a little
- 14:50packet of goodies for you to take home.
- 14:57Salami sticks for germ. This is our tagline.
- 15:00Get the real story, Know your food.
- 15:04And we're the only guys curing without adding nitrites,
- 15:07nitrates and phosphates. So there's some salami sticks
- 15:11for you. That is chorizo.
- 15:14Oh. God, that is delicious.
- 15:16OK. Actually, it's all delicious.
- 15:18This is called Salomeeti. And then here are some
- 15:26frankfurters for you, young man. Nice.
- 15:29Roller for your son? Yes, he's a he's a growing boy.
- 15:32He's a growing boy. Thank you, Angus.
- 15:35OK, Jim, the burning question in this country in agriculture is
- 15:39why since 2010 have 56% of the cattle farmers and 54% of the
- 15:46beef farmers, I mean cattle farmers and grain farmers gone
- 15:50bust? Because capitalism is a system
- 15:54that is the primary producer with sand as lubricant.
- 16:00OK, it might be a grotesque metaphor and I couldn't say it
- 16:03again. In the capitalist system, the
- 16:05primary producer is the worst possible position to be OK, so
- 16:11by me spending huge amounts of effort and time and money on a
- 16:15brand, I'm a price maker and not a price taker.
- 16:20Why the What's actually going on?
- 16:22Because germ, they have not been able to increase their prices
- 16:24off the farm gate, but their labour costs have basically
- 16:27doubled, their fuel costs have doubled.
- 16:29At the same time, the retailers in the feedlots are making
- 16:32millions more just a You're a commodity producer.
- 16:39What was? It Yeah, there we go.
- 16:41We are regenerative farm. As I explained to you earlier,
- 16:44I've banned the word sustainability because it's a
- 16:46defeatist belief that everything is OK as it is.
- 16:50In my opinion, everything should be better on whatever metric we
- 16:54look at. We can only do better.
- 16:58I mean, maybe we could go worse, but why would you want to have,
- 17:01you know, more infertility, more cancer, more plastic in the
- 17:05oceans, more plastic in our bodies, So more use of
- 17:10pesticides, Yeah. It's healthier in the long run.
- 17:14And it's a, it's, as Catherine Austinfitz says, this is how you
- 17:17get off the central control grid.
- 17:19You become, you actually become healthier, correct?
- 17:21And you require less of the pharmaceuticals.
- 17:24It's going to say what I did on Sunday.
- 17:26Yeah, we have a little family tradition where when it's, if
- 17:30it's a birthday of somebody, they request something.
- 17:33So I read last year for my birthday had requested a 24 hour
- 17:36digital detox. So no one in our family, my 3
- 17:40kids, my wife and I looked at the screen for 24 hours.
- 17:44Gee, oh, that's why you didn't reply to me.
- 17:46Jim, I can't tell you how wonderful it was.
- 17:49Time just slows down, literally slows down.
- 17:54It's incredible. We have no idea how
- 17:56overstimulated we are. So farmers are attacked, no
- 18:02question. I think 4000 farmers have been
- 18:04murdered, but black farmers and white farmers are attacked.
- 18:08And the attacks on farmers, I don't believe they've got
- 18:12anything to do with race, but they've everything to socio
- 18:15economic stuff. So the farmers perceived to have
- 18:18money and they're also perceived to have guns and cash on their
- 18:23farms, OK. So that's why many, many years
- 18:25ago we said we're no cash farm, OK?
- 18:29Whereas literally up the road from me, they murdered a guy
- 18:33because he was paying out in cash to steal his cash.
- 18:36So. So we are a criminal society in
- 18:39South Africa where criminals are not punished.
- 18:41So, so. But there's another underlying
- 18:45tone which is like farmers are white and they kind of deserve
- 18:49it. But what they don't understand
- 18:51is when you kill the farmer with with it's black or white, you've
- 18:54basically killed all the farm labourers too.
- 18:56Yeah. How much of that do you think is
- 18:59foreign influence foreign backed to to destabilise?
- 19:03Well of course the the the the the CIA and MI 6 are fully
- 19:07behind. The EFF is a destabilising force
- 19:10because it's Brit. It's anti bricks.
- 19:12All the British government can do is destabilise.
- 19:17They've even destabilised England.
- 19:19I lived in England for five years.
- 19:21OK England is not the same as it was 20 years ago.
- 19:25The British have destabilised their own country.
- 19:28So mad at this. We, as in every human, are all
- 19:32farmers by proxy. You, by virtue of choosing where
- 19:37your food comes from, have chosen your farmer.
- 19:39And the farmer is either regenerative or destructive.
- 19:42So we can literally eat our way to a better world.
- 19:47How's that for a beautiful, uplifting message, my man?
- 19:52Angus. OK.
- 19:57Thanks everybody. Jim, you're the best.