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Legally Blonde 2 w/ Irina Chelidze · Everyone's A Critic

• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: I guess today is a comedian later.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: Irina dela.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: Hi.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me, Yannis.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: How are you do today?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: I am so good at listening to the sounds of New York City outside of my apartment.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: And noticing the apparent birds in my background, but like I didn't know it.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I your ambient sounds are a lot more preferable than my ambient sounds, that's for sure.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was like up until uh six or seven months ago, or whatever, I was in in the middle of the city in London, so like I was used to the same sounds as you.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: So oh boy.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, by the way, isn't there um isn't Prince Philip's funeral today?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that happening in London?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's already happened.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's already happened, right?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's it makes no difference to me.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we don't have to talk too much.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I'm just I'm a huge fan of the crown.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, and the this whole thing is definitely gonna be written into an episode later, and I just yeah, I was so excited to see it.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: But you were also aware that it's not it's a lot, it's embellished, it's not real.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, the crown?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, you mean the things that I see on TV aren't real?
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I am aware of that.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I still I live for the glamour, I work in production.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a really good show to watch if you like production because it's highly stylized and it's um very dramatic.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I I kind of love that.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: Plus the actors are wonderful.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Olivia Fullman like Well, she's great at anything.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: She can she could be in anything and it would be great.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe how much that costs as well, though.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a hundred million or something a season.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: To make?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's something crazy, yeah.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: Something crazy it costs.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's insane.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: What is it?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm just wondering where all that money goes.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I've never seen it properly, but so I just assumed that it was just like very lavish.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's very lush.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's very, you know, it's the costumes department definitely goes in, but I'm assuming that that's not where the entire budget is.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: It might be on locations potentially.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is that is that a is that a very is that a verified number?
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: 100 million pounds?
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's something I read a long time ago, and I've it might not even be true.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'll take it, I believe it.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um I just thought the whole thing was done on a stage and that they, you know, rented the costumes from Party City or wherever you get your Halloween garb from.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, thinking about it.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know I know where they film it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: Where?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they film it at Elstree, which is like a studio near where I used to work, and it's like it's just a normal studio.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's so interesting.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a normal film studio.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's really interesting to hear about film studios in London because there's only like four or five here in New York.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm assuming there's a million in LA.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the one that there's like not as many as you think in London.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, even El Street is not actually in London itself, it's like slightly outside of it.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but that's like um that's where they film Star Wars and Um The Shining.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: I remember being a big deal.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that's iconic.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: That I actually knew that, but I didn't know the Star Wars thing.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um can I actually confess to something on this podcast?
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: I have not really seen any Star Wars aside from the mo I know the most recent ones.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh like all the all the ones with Adam Driver in it.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's yes for me.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: Automatic.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is that what made you watch them?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean no, yeah, that's 100% why I watched it.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, I I wasn't raised in I I wasn't born in this country, I should say.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: So Star Wars didn't really Star Wars didn't really have a huge cultural, you know, significance for my parents.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: So they didn't really show it to me when I was a kid, and yeah, I didn't really get invited to a lot of sleepovers.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I know.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I didn't really see it when I was a kid, and then I just got older and older, and everybody seemed a little, you know, passionate about it.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: I just felt too overwhelmed to step into the franchise, you know?
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's a huge fan base.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: I I watched I didn't get into them until I was like early teens.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: When the when the whenever like the the prequel stuff came out, I guess.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: I've heard I've heard to stay to stay far, far away from that.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're not good, those prequels.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, really curious, what is their rating on Rotten Tomatoes?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: So here's the thing.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: They are like already excited.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: Let's have a look.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: So episode one, which is considered the worst of the three.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: Wasn't that the first prequel?
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: 52%.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Episode two.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: And yet Legally Blonde 2 has 37 or something?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Episode 2 is 65.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: And episode 3 is 80.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: That is way too high.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: This is where and again, I don't know a lot.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Is this where Yoda gets introduced during the prequel thing?
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um memory, yes.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: You you're already testing me, right?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a huge, huge Star Wars person.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Are we Harry Potter people?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: Because I personally am a Harry Potter person.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: I know we have feelings about J.K.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: Rowland.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's so much it's so overdone here.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so sick of it.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is it yeah?
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Is it like uh this one time I went to Scranton, Pennsylvania?
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I've been there as well.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you know that they have the entire town is blastered in office memory.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's the only thing about the town, isn't it?
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's crazy, but I I think it's really adorable.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Is that kind of what London is like with uh Harry Potter?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: So if you go to King's Cross Station, um there's like an entire section that is like first of all, there's like a Harry Potter shop they have, and then they have like the um they have the uh the trolley going into the uh into the wall to take a picture, right?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen so many people take pictures with that.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: I bet you are I bet you roll your eyes every time you see it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: The thing is you it they've moved it around a bunch, so it used to be in like one place, and it was in the middle of like everyone trying to get through everything, so it used to be so annoying.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: The whole point is for muggles not to see.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: And now they moved it to like kind of a corner, so like, but there's still like lines going for ages.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you're over it.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm s like it's I I love the books, I enjoy the movies, but I'm like kind of done with them.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: Got it.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not because of like any external reason.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, obviously, everything to do with her.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I don't want to get into it.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: I wish she would just stop talking, you know what I mean?
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: I I wish we could just like have the books exist in a vacuum and then nothing else.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why she doesn't just stop doing it.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: So she doesn't need to do it to say anything else.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: We don't we don't know, Yannis.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: God knows, but we don't.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: I I uh have nothing to say to that.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: Truly.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: So wait, where were you born then?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because you said you weren't born in um the US.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was born in uh to be DC, Georgia.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do you are familiar with the country.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of times I have to clarify and say I'm not from Georgia the state.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not American.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: We we we know different countries.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's honestly such a relief.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, but I moved to New York City when I was two and a half older.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh okay.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Almost three, yeah.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I'm a it's pretty much all you've known then.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a New Yorker, yeah.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're definitely a New Yorker.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I'm a New Yorker.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Can you hear it in my voice?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I um I was raised in Brooklyn, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm assuming you've never been.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: To Brooklyn, yes.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: To Bensonhurst.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: To Bensonhurst, uh, maybe not.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's um it's quite far out, isn't it?
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't have a lot of sightseeing opportunities unless you want to see a lot of Russian grocery stores, then probably not.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think what what's it near?
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so where my parents live now, it's basically Little Russia.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's called Sheepsead Bay.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's a stop away from Brighton Beach and a stop away from Coney Island.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: And by a stop I mean on the train.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: Have you are you familiar with either Coney Island or Brighton Beach?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to Coney Island.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, gorgeous.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: Nathan's hot us.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: The the cyclone.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: We love it's so lovely.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um well Brighton Beach and Coney Island are connected to by the same beach.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it's the cultural shift from Coney Island into Brighton Beach is crazy because Brighton Beach is almost exclusively Russian slash Soviet people.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then my parents live like uh a couple blocks away from that.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then Bensonhurst is, for lack of a better description, across a whole subway line.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like the east side of Manhattan versus the west side of Manhattan.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Got you, got you.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're in Brighton Beach, the the west side is Bensonhurst.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: And that's me explaining to you how to do it.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for humoring me with that.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so happy I could be of help.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, so let's let's talk about what you actually came here to talk about.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Which is you you wanted to come and talk about well, first of all, you wanted to talk about um oh what was it you said?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: You picked another movie initially.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um god, yeah.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: So initially when you asked me to do this podcast, I was looking through the list of um movies available and um I saw the house bunny.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: And something in something in my mind had like a ratatouille type reaction where I was like, oh, the house bunny.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because I remember being a kid and seeing trailers for the house bunny and getting really excited because I A loved Anaferis.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, B loved pink sparkly things, and that explains a lot for this choice.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: And that seemed to kind of be exactly what this movie was about.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Plus, I I had a really big obsession as a kid with watching trailers non-stop.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I I would get on my parents' computer and um watch trailers for movies all the time.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: Pink Panther, Nacho Libre, uh like just it was my favorite thing to do.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: I love those movies.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: I know they're terrible, but I'm not sure.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Nacho Libre is fine.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: Nacho Libre is adorable, I think.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: It has its good moments.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so I remember um I actually came to the realization that I never saw the house funny up until I thought I was going to do this for do it for this podcast.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because my parents wouldn't let me see it.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: They really yes.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, how would you would have been like an appropriate age.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well, correct, but I did not have a car to take myself to the movie theaters and watch it, and I wasn't allowed to take the train back then.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very, yeah, it's it it's a very permission-based household.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: I also, I mean, that doesn't that doesn't mean anything.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: My my parents have been very strict in my upbringing.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like my curfew throughout high school was 4 30 p.m.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, if that says anything.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um but not to mention none of my friends wanted to see it because it just seemed like one of those like silly movies.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: But to me, it it it sounded so exciting.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: I would I would see that part of the trailer where Anna Ferris would wake up and she was told the news that she was getting kicked out of like the Playboy mansion, and she was like, But I'm only like 25 or something.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Yeah, that's like a million in Playboy years.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: I just thought it was really and not to mention uh that was the first time I had seen somebody with like with that physical appearance, yeah, you know, like the overdone like lips and hair and makeup, which now is completely normal.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: Back then we were like, oh, ooh, what is that?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I was so excited for the house money.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: But and I and I so when I watched it, um I I'm so sorry that you watched it for for this now.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, oh my god, but because uh as I watched it, it's like I knew everything that was going to happen because I had seen every single YouTube clip on it and trailer that I could get my hands on.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then when I finally watched the entire thing together, I was like, oh god, this is not great.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh really?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: It really isn't, but it's so good in that you know what I mean?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: I I it's not great, but you enjoyed it.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I love to consume a movie that's not good, but it's great, you know?
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: I remember watching it when it came out.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I remember liking it at the time, but I haven't seen it since.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, spare yourself.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's watching it now, obviously, watching any movie probably doesn't hold up.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, any movie before 2000 and what 18, probably is is racist and sexist off the bat, no matter what, no matter who wrote it, no matter what the content is, it just is.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it it it Anna Fares carries that movie, and she's so adorable to watch.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: The fact that it's also produced by Happy Madison, I mean, we we we love Adam Sandler's company.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Anything that he gets behind, we can also get behind, right?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, to an extent.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: I've got to go on another podcast uh so in like the next couple of months, and um it's a it's a podcast where it's like entirely they're going through the entire Happy Madison uh filmography.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm gonna be doing one of those.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, don't talk about Jack and Jill or either.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm doing.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh okay.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I picked because I thought it would be funny to pick it.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: That is actually the maybe one of the Happy Madison films that I haven't seen.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a huge Happy Madison fan.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I actually did watch Don't Mess with the Zohan and I enjoyed it.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: So you can tell what my type of movie is.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Terrible, but great.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: And and also like the I I can't really off the top of my head think of another movie that Happy Madison produced that was this uh female-centered, right?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing as well.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's it's definitely like the only one I can think of.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder if that's only because it kind of didn't do anything, it kind of bombed, from what I remember.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right, it definitely bombed, and I wonder why that happened.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, it's not any different from the buddy comedies that um not at all, yeah.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, and if I had to compare it with Legally Blonde, it was it was written by the same people, by the way.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I remember you saying, yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was written by the same people who wrote Legally Blonde.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like they're the original or the rematch, oh the sequel.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: The original, that makes sense.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Two women, yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: Which I love.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, anytime there's two women writing a script, I I I love that.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: This easily could have been written by two dudes in a room together, but it wasn't.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: And they tried to uh give a voice to like if we had to describe uh the house bunny in a dramatic way, it's uh orphan uh traded into sex slavery, I guess.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um who is evicted from who get who gets fired from her job and has to make it in the outside world without having any life skills, right?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I it's sad when you look at it that deeply.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I in my opinion, the the best comedies always have a sad backstory.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's how I feel.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of agree with that actually.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you if you want to describe a comedy, you you kind of like comes from tragedy.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: I could go on.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, like you you but the the whole reason we're not talking about we're not like gonna go into proper detail about that one is because you um I made the mistake of putting it on the list and it's not low enough to be on the list.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I found some like old list um with the rating and put it on there because now it is it's just too high.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so when you originally put it on the list, it had a it had lower than 40%, but now it has 43% on Latin Tomatoes.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: So what I don't know, I don't know if it just got more reviews or if like the list I found was just wrong.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna make sure we'll let every film I do from now on knows.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: Super thorough fact checker.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I wonder if it's honestly because um in the last couple of years it's gotten like a bit of a cult following, you know.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: Possibly there's this might just be my algorithm, but there are so many women who have Instagrams that idealize movies like The House Bunny, like Legally Blonde.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the legally blonde stuff, yeah.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, the hot chick, just all these uh chick flicks that are completely underrated.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: And once we started having this conversation, and you told me that the house bunny wasn't available, I should check out like something else.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: I my backup was legally blonde too.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but out of curiosity, I started looking through chick flicks on Rotten Tomatoes, and I gotta tell you, the critics are not kind.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're not chick flicks, they're not.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: Cinderella Story has something like 12%, or I don't even know.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: And do you know that's the most requested movie on this on this podcast?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: The Cinderella story?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: It got picked, it got picked like five movies in, and people continue to want to do it, and I'm like, it's been done.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: We've done it.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: I it's so crazy.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: It comes up so much.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: These movies were essential to my childhood upbringing.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: In the sense that when I did get invited to the rare sleepover, they they were always played, we would watch them with rapt attention and like absorb every single visual that was presented to us in the movie, like every sparkle, every line that now as an adult you hear it and you roll your eyes, but as a kid you hear it and you're like that's amazing.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And also, like all of these casts are all very similar as well.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because this this movie has a lot of the same cast as uh Cinderella story.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, now that I think about it.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, Jennifer Coolidge, oh Regina King.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: Comedy genius, first of all.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: Regina King! Oh my god, she's the fairy godmother.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then the hot chick has Anna Farris.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: So they're kind of all overlapping.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: They are.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I uh it just it it makes me so sad that I I feel like the critics, based on their reviews, are kind of missing the entire point of these movies.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I rewatched Legally Blonde um off the bat, and you know, I I knew uh actually.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Legally well, I did watch rewatch legally blonde and then I rewatched Legally Blonde 2 twice.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Twice once for fun and then once for this podcast.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, it's very hard for Legally Blonde 2 to match the first one.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: How iconic classic.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: I saw it when it came out.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: I went to see it and loved it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I I was shown it, like, in camp, um, and it was it it it instantly became my favorite movie.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Not just because Reese Witherspoon is such an angel, yeah, and you automatically empathize with her, you automatically root for her.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: She doesn't go overkill with the character and you know come off as this like ditzy blonde, like she's just very positive and also very into pink sparkly things, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: You can be smart and like glitter at the same time, and I loved that, you know.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: I um I actually, while I was growing up, kind of suppressed my love for pink and glittery things because there was this, you know, association with the fact that if you liked that type of stuff, you were stupid, or you know, you were kind of like ahead.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's a very like weird thing that was around at the time.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right now it's kind of I don't know if it's disappeared, but it's not as prevalent as it was, at least.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I can make the same comparison about the house bunny and really any one of these chick flicks, like it there's some sort of like shame associated with liking, you know, glam glamour, glitz glamour, I don't know what else to call it, but it's true, and it and Elle Woods kind of re-watching legally blonde as a adult, you you realize that she's not at any point, she doesn't come across as unintelligent, she just simply is um overdone in her makeup and her style, but there shouldn't be anything wrong with self-expression, you know.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: If legally blonde was like it if Elle Woods was, you know, a goth and she still went across the exact same path that she did, people wouldn't the the impact wouldn't be the same.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because the whole point of Legally Blonde is that you can be who you want to be, which is a pink glitter monster, and accomplish your dreams.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: And like a gas lord.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think this it's I think it started with um Clueless.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think um her character there was kind of the archetype.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like the she's the she started it um with like the what uh what comes across as Ditsinos, but is still she's still very smart, but it's just her the way she speaks makes you think that she might not be as as smart as she is, and then the way she dresses because she's obsessed with fashion.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't that doesn't automatically mean that you're a uh unintelligent.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, I take that personally as a matter of fact, because I love to dress up.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong with it.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, I think I'm pretty smart.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I I think it's pretty cool too.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: There there shouldn't be um uh you know this shame like given to women who want to look good but are still but are moms now or hold positions of power in government or yeah uh in in in any sort of field.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: It it it we shouldn't be suppressed in um expressing ourselves in terms of how we want to dress and how we want to act.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: And actually it's it's really interesting that you brought up Clueless because I was thinking about how um important the color pink is in all of these movies.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's just it you you look at the set design, you look at the costumes, everything is just washed with pink, especially with legally blonde.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, El Woods like potentially invented the color pink.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't actually know if it existed before this movie.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um and in Clueless, that that's proven because Clueless was like 1995 or something like that.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Cher's not wearing a lot of pink, she's just yeah, she's wearing different colors, yellows, yeah, whites, uh reds, oh yeah, yellow, white, red, yeah.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's very, you know, like obviously very classy, very like well done.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but she's not wearing a lot of pink, and that is because Elle Woods kind of spearheaded that.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I love the plot point that they're driving with that because the color pink is a very quote-unquote shameful color because guys associated it with like being super girly.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: But what Elle Woods does is she takes it and she owns it completely.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: She owns the color pink and she's unafraid to wear it.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like when she walks into that court, completely schools us all in the art of hair perms.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: She is wearing an incredible pink suit, and that's a very bold move, and she reclaims the color.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I I think that's really inspiring personally.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know something interesting about the color pink as well?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is that it was for it was like associated with boys in like the 1800s, and then it like switched over.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: Not to mention you guys were wearing heels in the 1800s.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking about it.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: And dresses.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what is this?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: What sort of flip did we do?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: What happened between 1800 and now to cause this ruckus?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't I don't see it.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: I don't get it.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: At least it's coming back, so like now there's just like people kind of starting to wear whatever they want.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: In in the 1800s?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, now yeah.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: I personally think we should bring back guys wearing crop tops, but that's another podcast.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's that was going in the 80s, like they were still doing that.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Love that.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't we go watch Rocky?
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's wearing a crop top in it.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that is another example of a movie I have not seen that is very American.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it we'll we'll get to it.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's literally a scene where two of two men are wearing crop tops and running down the beach together.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very interesting.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I might have to go check that out afterwards.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um for the costumes, of course.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: I just I'm really into that.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um but back to Legally Blonde.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right, so uh Legally Blonde, almost every single line in that movie is quotable.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it's iconic in its costumes, it's iconic in its character development.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, she gets dumped by her shitty ex-boyfriend, and then she, you know, becomes a lawyer, realizes she doesn't even need her shitty ex-boyfriend, finds a cuter boyfriend who does nothing but support her.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then he proposed to her at the end of this movie.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: Legally blonde too, we pick up right when um Elle is planning her wedding.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's not how long later is it?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's like not I don't know if they give a timeline.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: They don't give a timeline, but you can assume that if somebody like proposed like that night that it's probably like a year or two later, yeah, because they're still setting like the venue, and she's also not that high up in her law firm, yeah.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's probably not too much.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: She would have oh yeah, because wait, at the end of Legally Blonde, it's when she's graduating as well, isn't it?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we did it! Yeah, yeah.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: That whole speech iconic.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Love that.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so gorgeous.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so then she um joins the law firm and she starts planning her wedding.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: So it couldn't have been that much time.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: She hasn't grown too much as a person.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's only uh what is it?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's two years after it came out two years after the first one, so it's probably like around that as well.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so this one, before we stop, before we get like too far into it, this this has a 37% rating from the critics and 43% from the audience.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I'll tell you why.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: I will tell you why.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh first of all, did anybody else get Leslie Nope vibes as they were watching this movie?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, for context, Leslie Nope is the main character on Parks and Recreation.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: She's played by Amy Polar.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: She's a woman who works in a small part of government, but she tries to accomplish a lot.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I was watching this movie and I was like, wow, Elle Woods kind of walked.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: So Leslie Nope.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: It is almost inspiring to see because she in this movie, we we've already secured the love interest.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Her her boyfriend, I mean, he's he's perfect.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, her fiance.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: He's perfect.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: He's super supportive.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: He actually well, in my eyes.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's very boring.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the thing.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: They kind of created this character that is uh really just a supporting role.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like very nothing to do in this movie.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, and that is a lot of female roles in a lot of movies.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: The wife, you know?
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she just like.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: So true, like that would be the female role in another movie.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: And off the bat, I love this movie for having almost like a like 90% female cast, right?
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: The villainous female.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like all of the yeah, every one of his things.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: This passes the yeah, this passes the Beckdell test with flying colors.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: Which we love.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, his his character, he she doesn't in the first movie, we were so we could relate so much as an audience because we all have had you know that boyfriend that has doubted us, or at least I have.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then we and then we've gone on to accomplish a lot, you know, bigger and better things, realize we didn't need them, but she's already she already has that.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: So if I were writing this movie, okay, we have Elle Woods as a character, what can we make her do that will make audiences feel just as inspired, just as proud of her, and just as, you know, and fall just as much in love with her as they did in the first movie.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: And with all the materials that they were given, that's what they did with Legally Blonde 2.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: They should I describe the plot a little bit, I guess?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, you can if you want to.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um so basically Elle is getting married, and before she can get married, she has to find her trusty dog bruiser's birth mom so that she can be there for the wedding.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because to her, bruiser is the most it's her child.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: And um uh while you know, on a search for discovering his birth mom, she discovers an animal testing facility that you know uh she then tries to change the law and get abolished, which okay it's a weak plot.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's a what?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Weak plot.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: That is why it has 37% of rotten tomatoes, and that is why Legally Blonde has probably like 80 or something.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure, but probably.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, definitely it's eons above Legally Blind.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's gotta be high.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because people love it.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they made this sequel because they were like, we have to put El Woods in something else.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: They 70.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's so low for that.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: I hate that so much.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: I just Wow.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it would be at least 80.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: The first and worst Star Wars is only 20 points under that, and that makes me sad.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because yeah, it that's the thing.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Most of these critics, I'm venturing a guess that they are male, do not appreciate the value of this movie and how essential it is in the upbringing of girls who you know look for inspiration.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: There's do you want to say something interesting on here?
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Please.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Looking at the reviews, the two positive reviews on this first page are from women.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: The rest of the negative reviews are from men.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I didn't even know that, and I guessed it.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's that that just that just hurts to hear.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I um I'm honestly not surprised.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: This was, by the way, we say Leslie Nope.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Leslie Nope's a little toned down.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: This is like if Leslie Nope was an Eagle Tonian.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: This had this is a Leslie Nope, but without the but Leslie Nope doesn't have the like the the fashion side.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: She's not interested in like that sort of thing.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: But she's got the excitement.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: She's got the excitement everything.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: She knows how to dress ish, but not to the extent she didn't go to she didn't major in fashion.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's not her priority.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, which is totally fine because they both essentially have the same type of personality, which is like a get shit done type personality.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's a type A personality.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um but in a in a good way.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, because type A can also be seen as like people can people look down on that as well.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, yeah.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: The the impact that Legally Blonde had on audiences, the studio was definitely like, we have to make we have to exploit this as much as possible.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know, which is why Legally Blonde 2 came out, which is why Legally Blondes, which we are not talking about, came out.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know that movie?
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Have you heard that?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I saw it come up when I was searching for things.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I too for had blocked it from my memory memory, effectively.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't I hadn't blocked it from my memory, I didn't know it'd come out.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: Really weird because Legally Blondes is about like two British twins who are somehow related to Elwoods coming to America with dogs that are somehow related to Bruce or it's again, that is a stretch.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: No, we're not talking about it.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's very do you also know about the uh TV show?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: There's a TV show?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: There was a pilot that got made.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you can find it on YouTube.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Stop.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: And it is not good.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: What year was it made?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like in the 2000s?
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: In the 2000s, yeah.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um let me see.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: It came out the same year as this, 2003.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh it is bad.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't wanna see it.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: Who's in it?
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Is uh is Reese Witherspin in it?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's some other uh woman, Jennifer Hall.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, thank you.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm sure she's a lovely lady, but oh thank you.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: I um yeah, the musical that came out it bombed on Broadway.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um people love that musical still though.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there was a TV show that was dedicated to finding the next Elle Woods.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, yeah.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot about that.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's it it sucked.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: I I never no, not the TV show, um, the musical itself.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: It it bombed so hard because I think Broadway producers kind of like missed the whole point of legally blonde and how feminist it actually is.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: And they made it kind of like the songs are just you know, like, oh like be hot, like you know, lift your cleavage up to get the guy.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: And that that's really not what Elle Woods was trying to do.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: She wasn't trying to, you know, win Warren back in the first movie by uh putting her body more out there.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: She was trying to do it because she was trying to win him back intellectually, you know.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I uh do you remember Kristen Um Chenowith?
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know her?
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: She made fun of that movie at the Tony Awards that year.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: Or not the movie, the musical.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, later that year by being like legally blind.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: It was hilarious.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: So good.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, I I feel like this movie got made legally blonde too.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because Reese Witherspoon heard the plot and she was like, okay, this is actually pretty inspirational.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like I feel like they had good intentions with this movie.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, they definitely had good intentions with it.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like there's here's Mr.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: Smith goes to Washington, but it's Elle Woods.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_02: She's trying to make a difference, yeah, albeit it's for her dog.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: But there's there's actually like a famous monologue uh where some lawyer pleads a case in court and wins because uh because it's about somebody's dog, and he's able to like pull on the heartstrings of the jury because he's like, Who here like wouldn't consider their dog a family member?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, you it's taken from reality, is what you're saying.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's actually a scene in Legally Blonde 2 where she watches Mr.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: Smith goes to Washington.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just on the phone.
• 39:54
  unknown: Yeah.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: I thought that that was pretty campy.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_02: The the whole movie is a a little camp, you know.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the first one is as well.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like well, yeah.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I of course, sure.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I would say that this This takes that and like ramps it up.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um I gotta give a shout out to the costumes department on and the props department.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: Coming from a production background, I I know that those are two very underrated departments, um, and they both deserve a shout-out for this movie.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I I'm imagining the costume designer knowing Elle Woods and being like, okay, but she's going to Washington.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: So how do we make her Washington professional?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's give her a gray suit, pink rhinestones.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: Love that.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was so well done, and they they did a really good job in making her in making her come across as serious.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: She's not wearing too much pink in this movie.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not overdone.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's very it's like suited, it's enough of her personality within that put into the Washington uh lawyer role, I guess.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what they are.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they are.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know how much trouble I had understanding the like logistics of this movie?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because sorry to say, but I I know enough about our government, but I don't know that much about like what you have to do to get a bill passed.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of just like wasn't.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: You never watched the um that that thing as a child.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just a bill.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm only a bill.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: I I did, but I zoned out.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's famous enough that even I know it.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: What's the next line after I'm a bill?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: We all just know the bill.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: I might only know it from The Simpsons as well.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that the Simpsons uh did a parody of that.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when Lisa goes to watch it.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody's a Simpsons fan.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very old episode.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's one of the things.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: You can't blame me for not seeing every million episodes.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not blaming you.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying like that's where I I think that's where I know it.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's not Star Wars.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I remember watching and being like, especially as a kid.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um I also watched this movie in camp, by the way, because I don't know.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: Was that the only ones you were about to watch?
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, actually, I mean, we would do a rotation of like there was the chaotic kids in the room who wanted to watch movies like Halloween Resurrection, which no thank you.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: Nope, nope, scary movies like that, or and then there was like the side of the room that I was on that wanted to watch, you know, Mulan for the hundredth time and movies like this, because that's what I enjoyed.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know something funny?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: I worked so I worked at a summer camp, and that's how I ended up at Scranton.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, because it was like an hour from Scranton.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but the only movie we were allowed to show them was Heavyweights.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: I've I I'm so sorry, but I have never even heard of that movie.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh it's like an old um Ben Stiller movie where he's like he he it's a summer camp movie.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Well well at least you didn't He's like a fitness freak that takes over the summer camp.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a fat camp and he takes over it.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe in Spo for Ted Lasso later?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the reverse of that.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: Got it, got it, got it.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, at least you didn't show him Wet Hot American Summer.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_02: Or Friday the 13th.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: The other thing.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Wet hot American Summer filmed at the summer camp I worked at.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is that why you decided to work there?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't know it until I joined.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that is too crazy of a coincidence.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: And it was um Exactly the same.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow it looks it looks the same.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: They used all the props.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Are you a fan of big yeah?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: Are you a huge fan of Big Hot of Wet Hot Summer?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great movie.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's been done on this podcast as well.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: Does it have less than 40%?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's got like 30.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't it crazy that it has that low of a rating and yet they remade it um into a series?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because it got became a cult classic.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's you know, I I've listened to a couple episodes of your podcast, and the a lot of the gist of the movies that you you know summarized are that yeah, they sucked when we first saw it, but now they're cult classics.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: Now they're iconic.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like Batman versus Oh, yeah, I was gonna say which Batman and Batman and Robin.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Batman and Robin.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, I listen, I loved that movie.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uma Fernandes gorgeous.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: George Clooney, I'm here for it.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: Bat Nipples.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: Bat Nipples, I'm here for it.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: I, you know, while I was a kid, I didn't watch that and think, like, why do they have Bat Nipples?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I wasn't thinking about that at the time.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was there for the overall experience of the movie, you know, and I think like now as an adult, having worked in film and studied film, I I I can't help but break down every single little thing.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I kind of miss just being a kid and watching a movie that you know sucks and loving it because it's you know cool and pretty and like and there's like actors in it that I recognize from my TV.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, hey, wait, this guy's Batman, you know?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've seen him in ER.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I loved ER.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: I would watch ER when I got home from school all the time.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: That in fact, when I think of George Clooney in in a titular, in when I think of George Clooney as an actor, I don't think of the oceans movies.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think of ER.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I've never seen an episode of ER in my life.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was it was great.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: Grey's Anatomy could never I I don't care what anybody says.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: I've never seen an episode of Grey's Anatomy either.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're not missing much.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: I I actually just watched the first season of Grey's Anatomy and I stopped after they removed a bomb from somebody's chest, and everyone survived.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen one clip of it.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: That was too bad.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: No, oh wait, no, that's not even Grey's Anatomy.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking of uh One Tree Hill, where like a dog comes comes running in and grabs a heart.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, I was I'll send you the clip afterwards.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's so funny.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: Please do.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't really allowed to watch One Tree Hill when I was a kid because we had one TV in our family um, you know, living room, and it would always be on at the same time as like the news or you know, something that's a lot more important than one tree hill.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: So all the kids at my school would be talking about like Chad Michael Murray and how hot he was.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I could just never I never watched any of those teen dramas because my parents wouldn't let me.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: There was also a lot of kissing in them.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that was a big thing.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, I could not see kissing.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's also another reason why my parents didn't allow me to watch the house bunny because they were like, This is this is a Playboy bunny, and we wouldn't we won't even let you watch Chad Michael Murray kissing at home.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's actually something I didn't ask you about this then.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: When was the first time you saw this?
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: Legally blonde, too.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it was a hundred percent when it it I didn't see it in theaters.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it um when it got released on VHS in camp.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, in camp.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: When did this movie come out?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like 2003.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Three?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was about nine years old.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I was in camp.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh it yeah.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good I think that's like the right age for this movie.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's the target audience of this movie.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: A hundred percent it is.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: I I really I gotta point out, like, so I don't I don't know if you've picked up on this yet, but I was a bit of a lonely kid growing up.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um but this this movie was it it is all about girl power.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_02: It actually, the main point of this movie is that we can accomplish so much when we work together as women, you know?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah it starts off with her best friends um reading a scrapbook.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's pretty sweet, you know, yeah.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: If we if we just like take a second to step back and separate ourselves from the movie itself and think about a character who would a bunch of characters who would dedicate the time to making a scrapbook for their best friend who's getting married, that is so thoughtful.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I actually cannot off the top of my head think of one single buddy comedy movie where where the male protagonists put a lot of thought into the well-being of their best male friend.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I completely agree.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Harold and Kumar are super bad.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like we we love those movies.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_02: We we know that the two male protagonists they love each other, but they would just never put that amount of thought into the happiness of their friend.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's really crazy, actually.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: Also, really, really cute shout out um in the first like minute of the movie where they're looking through the scrapbook and they're like, oh my god, she was so pretty.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: She could have been like a Playboy model.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, duh, she became a lawyer instead.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's way better.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_02: And her friend was like, is it though?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that so much.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because is it?
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: Is it?
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_02: Let's not let's not shame anybody who wants to be a yeah, let's not shame anybody who wants to be a playbook.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's better for some people, but it's not better for other people.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like Anna Ferris's life in House Bunny when she was a house bunny seemed like she was happy.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was yeah, it was partying.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's what she liked to do.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, and oh, not to mention the the whole scene in the towards the end of the movie where Elle really needs to get a bill passed and her friends came to support her.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: Again, they're traveling from Washington, DC.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Do they have day jobs?
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: They're here for their best friend.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: They show up and she's one of them talks about being on a cruise and coming from the cruise to be there.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_02: Obsessed.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_02: How who who amongst your friends would drop everything just to make sure that you're happy?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, my friend wouldn't come off get off a cruise to go.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: My friends wouldn't get off a cruise to go and help me to recruit signatures.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think mine would.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe maybe mine would now, but I I don't I really don't think so.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: And and you gotta admire that about Elle Woods and her friends.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: They respect her so much and they believe in her that they'd be willing to do anything for her.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, she she's like, Yeah, I really need this thing passed.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what are we gonna do?
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: And they were like, Girl, I got you.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: I will call every single that that hotline phone.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, I really wanted a hotline phone.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm talking about?
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like a phone that is is encased in something and looks really important and special, and when it rings, alarm bells go off because it's an important phone call.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: They had this in the Powerpuff Girls, and it was very impressive to me.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they they ring the hotline phone, they're like, ladies, call your local representatives, tell them people watching.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a giant phone tree of like the sorority.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh well, here's the thing that's that is how shit gets done nowadays.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: If you watch this movie now, you almost get a little bit sad thinking about you know, when we were kids, we were watching this and we were like, Well, we can really make a difference, and yet in the last like four years, everything that's happened, you're just yeah, you kind of get a little first of all.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: That scene watching all the you know girls let's just call them all white girls because there's not a lot of diversity in this.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's one massive like flaw in this movie.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, watching them march up the steps of the White House.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: Did anybody else get like insurrection flashbacks?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: Or was that just me?
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no, it was it was a little uncomfortable that that whole part.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: But I know they were doing it for a good.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: The march made me feel a little bit uncomfortable as well.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it wasn't like a forest gun type cute march.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was a little it was very like spirited and aggressive, but I I'm trying to play devil's elwood advocate and try to give it the benefit of the doubt.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give it the benefit of the doubt because it's like 2003 and it's it's the feminism of the time, I guess.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: The the white feminism, isn't it?
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: A hundred percent.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if yeah, I mean you think that the the the whole relationship between her and Regina King where she was like, you think you could just like come up in here and like make change when like I've been trying for years?
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: That is real.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's yeah, it got very real at that moment.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and her resentment towards Elle Woods is completely justified.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: Because she's just like, How dare you have like almost everything you've ever wanted handed to you when you know it's a lot harder for some of us.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: And that's completely that's completely justified.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm actually glad that um they included that storyline and that character because otherwise it would have been too, you know, too unbelievable.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: It would have been a fantasy.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think they like if they'd done that now, it would have been talked about more but in the scenes, but like that that was like the kind of limit of the time.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like we are addressing it.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: Here is how we are addressing it.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, like it's I don't know.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like Regina King in this movie is underutilized.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: 100% given that she's an incredible actress.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, oh my god, of course.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: And as a kid, I I was I would watch that movie and truly not understand why she was so mad at Elle.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, because we love Elle and we want every so far, yeah, so far, like we've aside from you know, um Selma Blair's character, yeah.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh her name, but in Legally Blonde One, Selma Blair's character is one of the only females that doesn't love Elle immediately when meeting her, but that is because she has Warren, and so we understand that.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: We know where it comes from, whereas this one we're not yeah, it's not made entirely clear because we're and also we've can't we've got the the history of like knowing Ill now.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we're whereas we don't know Regina King.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly, and we're just like, why is this like woman being so rude to her?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it there there's not rude, she's just like not helpful, and she's very much just like just not interested.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly, and we we're kind of just very confused.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_02: We as an audience dislike Regina King because of that.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're made to dislike it.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: But I I think it was just supposed to be uh like a repeat of what happened in the first one of like of um Selma Blair's character.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: They're just like repeat, they're just going through the same mo sort of motions of storytelling there.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe Selma Blair's character also didn't have everything handed to her, and you know, she grew up as a prep.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_02: And here comes Elle Woods, who is bubbly and pink and doesn't need to try too hard in law school.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe maybe.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe and then also Sally Field.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: So Academy Award winner.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: We love all the Academy Award winners in this movie.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: Four Academy Award winners in this movie.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: Are we counting Octavia Butler?
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: Octavia Spencer, yeah.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: Octavia Yes, Octavia Spencer as a minor uh She's in it, so she cows.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, let's go.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: Even though she has one line in this movie.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like maybe two.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: Octavia Spencer, Sally Field, Reese Witherspoon, Regina King.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's everybody.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's everybody, yeah.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: But Sally Field has two.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: Gina King has one, but she's potentially gonna get two.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: She could get two, we don't know.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: Reese Witherspoon has one, and um Octavia Spencer has one.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, like, come on.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: Come on.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was thinking that about the House Bunny too.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, look at look at Emma Stone.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: Look at Academy Award winner, Emma Stone.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot Emma Stone's in that movie.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, she is.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 57:29
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'll go back and rewatch that.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: And Colin Hanks.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, okay.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: So a reason a reason why I thought the house bunny was more like centered around like females, like women lifting each other up, yeah, and less about like getting the guys because Colin Hanks is the love interest.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: And not actually not one single guy in that movie is like super dreamy or unattainable, they're just normal, nice dudes.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: But that's the Colin.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like Colin Hanks and Luke Wilson are kind of like level field.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_02: For sure, for sure, for sure.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're there's not like huge dreamboats um in either of these.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, no offense, they're great-looking guys, but you know what I mean?
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_02: They're not Chad Mike.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're the everyman, aren't they?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: They the qualities about them are more redeemable than the Warren types of the world.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: We also, while we're talking about problematic parts of this movie, I mean, we gotta talk about the whole bruiser's gay storyline.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_00: What the what is that?
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a real it's made as such a joke.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then the whole the whole thing with like the the other dog being gay and it and it's owned by a Republican NRA advocate.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: And they kind of like redeem him.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he's like, just kidding, I'm still that, but my dog is gay and I'm okay with it.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_02: I understand what they were trying to do.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if again, like El Woods doesn't have any children, this is the closest that she could get to um having somebody that in her life that she cares deeply about.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah um so I understand that they were trying to prove that like not only is animal testing wrong, but like we should, you know, I don't know, give dogs gay rights.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really know.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I I am able to speak to this too much.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: I just know that that entire scene where they're finding out that their dogs are gay and have been like humping each other in doggy daycare is so so problematic.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: You just watch it doesn't hold up.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_02: It does not.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, yeah, I mean your dog's a guy and your dog's a guy, and they've been humping, and L, it's just it's so stupid that they're both like, What?
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't understand it, especially Elle.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, come on.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: That that was so unbelievable to me.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's not like there aren't other gay people in her life, you know.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's that legal guy in the towards the beginning of the movie who helps her with the Versace thing.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's gay, and you know, I also I assume that she She's around gay people.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, what's going on?
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: She also dresses like her dog in like I I'm not I mean Well, she said that she likes she allows him to express himself, the dog, however he wants to.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: Cool, right, yeah.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: So she shouldn't be that like taken aback when she finds out that he's gay.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like she's she's very she's very much just like almost sad about it, which I hate.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like they're sitting in the park and they're like, Well, you know, I can't believe it.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: Can't believe it would ever happen to me.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: But but like also, that's what all dogs do.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's not it's not that a gay dog thing.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, honey, yeah.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_02: I also think it's a little over the top that they dress them up in like uh like motorcycle gear.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh I I'm not really sure what that was or what they were aiming for with that.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: Props and costumes, again, to loop back in on props and costumes, they had so much fun on this movie.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: The snap cup.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_02: Can we can we just have can we just have a conversation about the snap cup?
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_02: If there if every moment in Legally Blonde was quotable, the most quotable iconic part of this movie is the Snap Cup.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you say so I that listen, the Snap Cup became like a staple at girl sleepovers, really at yeah, at um in class exercises.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like as soon as we watched Legally Blonde 2 in my camp, we immediately created a Snap Cup that we would fill out.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad you made one.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like we would go to outings and like just like read nice things about each other.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it but that's adorable.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is because like sometimes when we're arguing, I I I love that she used that to diffuse a situation, like, okay, we don't agree.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's very deep, deeply psych psychological.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: We don't agree on on a topic together.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_02: Are we actually just disagreeing or are we mad at each other?
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_02: Let's take a breath, take a second to write down something that's nice that we like about each other, read that out loud, and remember that we are actually all on the same team.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's great, it's a great way of diffusing the situation.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like it's very wholesome as well.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_02: It is, yeah.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I But that that's just like fully her characters, I think, at its exactly.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_02: But the the the Snap Cup put it into like a physical press, you know, it made it into something that's tangible.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, like we don't just have to like give speeches about why we love women.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like sometimes it's nice to do things and physically write them down, and then the fact that they incorporated that at the end of the movie with everybody in government doing snap cup readings, gorgeous.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_02: We love that.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, another character I want to talk about is Sidney the Dorman.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_02: What do you want to do it?
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like so adorable in this movie.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_00: So cute, yeah.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: He's so nice that like she's she's the only one that's nice to him at the start, and like and in return, he's nice to her, and she says it's just a nice thing to see you like her not talk down to someone in one of those positions.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: And because then it's like later on she sees the homeless guy and like everyone's being rude to him.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: She like leaves the the money and everything.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: The 20.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's actually uh completely I didn't even think about that when thinking of Elle Woods, because based on her background and upbringing, like what is she a Bel Air, yeah, you know, trust fund baby.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, you'd think that she would just be the worst person in the world.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you're expecting of her, but yeah.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_02: But she turns out to be just uh super nice and super like uh caring and super understanding of her own privilege and only using it for good.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which we love.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly it.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she only that's the thing, she does only use it for good.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like um you know, uh sh she doesn't she she has this unmatched spirit where she refuses to be torn down, you know, even when so much of the world is trying to tear her down.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_02: That could be because she has the delusion that there's nothing that she can't do, which is definitely a part of her white privilege, but it also is only used for good.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that that moment where she's talking to Abraham Lincoln's um statue, and she's like, How did you do it while wearing that disgusting hat?
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_02: I love that line.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because she's just like she's so she's just a breath of fresh air.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like she she tries her hardest to be good and kind to people while still maintaining her own sense of style and personality.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like she she is iconic.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_02: I really love I I really I really think that this movie deserves like a second chance by a lot of people, you know, especially like those going into government because it gives you a little bit of hope.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_02: It does give you hope, yeah.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it it it was made in.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: A time where, like, we didn't think we would ever have a really terrible president, and that it was before, like, well, this was this uh saying this was George Bush time.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let me let me rephrase that.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, honestly, based on the last four years, like George Bush is like a bunny compared to everything that we've witnessed.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: The this was before I knew anything about politics.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was young enough to watch this and be like, okay, like great, this is how our country works.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you just have to like present your case in a really nice way and be super nice to people, and then you can accomplish anything.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_02: Which, you know, doesn't really hold up anymore at all.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: It definitely doesn't hold up, but like it's a nice thought, it's nice to think about.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it is if and if it's if it's for escapism, yeah.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's a nice feeling.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_02: I would really like Elle Woods to be dropped into a house of cards show, like just a person.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine?
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: I I wonder if her spirit would then be crushed, just because yeah.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts about League of Evilon 3?
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know they're making it.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh my god, we haven't even touched on that yet.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_02: So off the bat, I'm excited because I know Reese Witherspoon is attached.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, and she's producing it.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, so I'm I'm I'm I'm excited to hear it.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_02: I know she's coming back in her titular role.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_02: Can I make a guess as to what the plot might be?
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm wondering if it's based on the end of this one.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: So at the end of this one, she gets married.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, everything's great.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_02: Bruiser's reunited with his mom, who is now in with Sydney.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_02: The something like that.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, whatever.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't believe that her and her husband will have children.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that that's in the woodwork for Elle.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like she's a career woman, and her her passion is her job.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I also think that she, you know, a lot of her friends uh and the people around her, they're constantly expecting her to, you know, slide into the role of the subservient housewife.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like literally in the beginning of this movie, they're like, as soon as you get married, like you don't have to work anymore, honey.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_02: And that's not what she wants to do.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like she would forego the traditional, got married, had kids, etc.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I feel like she I I I obviously don't know which way they're gonna take it politically because there's a lot to unpack.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like she'll be either like a congresswoman or somebody that can uplift somebody else into a position of power.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_02: My hope is that she kind of gets schooled in her white privilege a little bit, you know, maybe by like a young Regina King character who's like, you you're actually not realizing like how good you have it.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: I hope Regina King is actually attached to Legally Blondes 3.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well do you know if she is?
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_00: I all I know about I'm hopeful for it purely because Brees Witherspoon said for Legally Blonde 2 she had a terrible time making it.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_00: And Really?
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so she didn't want to do a sequel to anything for the longest time.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, Legally Blonde 3, along with Sing 2, but whatever whatever Sing 2 is, like, you know, it's just it's just a uh voice overall.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be her first her only other sequel that she's ever done.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_02: Mmm.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_02: I actually didn't read that article.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: Did she say why she was having such a bad time on Legally Blonde 2?
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's just said it in the it says it in the trivia.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um well she was pregnant first of all, she was pregnant during filming, so that could have added to it.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um it says after having an unpleasant time doing this movie, uh, she decided to never appear in a sequel again.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Thus, other movies of hers that have had sequels either left her out altogether or didn't happen under her respect.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_02: Huh.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I think the fact that she was pregnant during filming definitely makes sense.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Filming, you know, being the main character in a movie like this, it's a lot.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're on set for a minimum of 12 hours a day.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_02: And in heels and in like tight.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's I respect to Reese Withersman for putting up with all that.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I think during Legally Blonde, the first one, she had just had a baby.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean Reese Withersman, she kills it.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great woman.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um I so okay, what are your predictions for the Legally Blonde three?
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, at the end of this, they hint at her becoming president, but like that's her next goal.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_00: But interesting.
• 1:11:07
  unknown: I don't know.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think El Woods are doing that?
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's the best way to go.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Do we live in a world it's the obvious way to go?
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Do we live in a world where Elle Woods could become president?
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: You don't think we do?
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_02: I that's the whole thing.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like people do not take her seriously because she is so, you know, pink and glittery, and that's always been associated with a non-serious person.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe this is about her presidential run.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe she I hope she doesn't, you know, lose sight of who she is during her presidential run, but it's kind of hard to do that, you know?
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_02: It is very difficult to run for president and be, you know, your true self because you're trying to win the affection of millions of Americans.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_00: But my other hope is that if if she is running for president, I hope they don't do a thing of like having her run as an independent just to get around like having her run either either political party.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Or she like starts her own party and calls it like the the bruisers or something.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_00: I can see that happening actually.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want it.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I well there there's definitely a way to do it that wouldn't be super camp and super, you know, painful to watch.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_02: But I I need to know the writers attached to this, I think.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Let me see.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a writer attached?
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Legally bond three.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Dan Gore, who is the showrunner of um Brooklyn 99.
• 1:12:53
  unknown: Oh!
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_00: And Mindy Kaling.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_00: We love that.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm hopeful for that then.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that could that could be.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: So he's co-writing?
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's co-writing it with Mindy Kaling.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I trust Mindy Kaling.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's first of all.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wait, there's four writers.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's two of them.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_02: This is the um Well, obviously I'm sure there's like a whole team of writers in the game.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_00: One of them, the original writer of Legally Blonde.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's that.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, okay.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: And who is this last one?
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, two of the co-writers Legally Blonde.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_00: So the original co legally blonde co-writers plus Dan Gore and Mindy Kay.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Plus Money.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's fine.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm I'm so here for it.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, it's so weird.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like the the the original Legally Blonde, it's basically a romantic comedy, right?
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to an extent.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's a chick-flick and a romantic comedy.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_02: This this is completely not that.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it it's it's really just Elle Wood's the hero, the character being put through a series of obstacles and her rising to the challenge in the way that she knows best.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think the reason it it wasn't as successful as the first movie was because we didn't have any sort of love interest.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like this was just Elle working um to build.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think it is missing that, though.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_00: To me personally.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's missing not necessarily that, but it's missing something to it.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like a love interest within the character.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be a love interest, but it's missing a part of the story.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's missing like a bee story, I feel like.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because what is literally, what is the B story?
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's not really a B story.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the Regina King thing?
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the bruiser thing?
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well the bruiser thing is like it's like the main story, really, isn't it?
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's all like one collective story, kind of.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So it's hard to separate any of it.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the best plot, unfortunately.
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think that they It's held together by the by the characters and the act, like the way they act, because they're all great, they're all perfectly fine in it.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say they're great in it, like except for Reese Witherspoon, but you know, it's missing Jennifer Coolidge, like she's not in it much, she doesn't have much to do.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's missing that.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's missing her friends a lot of the time.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think it relies it probably relies too heavily on her, if anything.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_02: It it does it literally just um is like it it's like a painting with El Woods at the center.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: And by the way, speaking of, um did you notice the lighting in almost every single scene?
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, they have her in pink, but the lighting, they'll have like uh a light pointed at her with pink gels on it to like yeah, to to make her pop, or they'll just have like a spotlight in the back of her, whether it's pink or not, to like make her brighter, make her the center of attention.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Not to mention wardrobe made sure every other person was wearing black, brown, gray while she stood out and like pink, and it it's very much just like every single frame she stands out as the main character, which you know is the goal, but they emphasize it too much it's it's campy.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, interesting.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_02: It becomes camp.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's this director as well.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Who's the director?
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Charles Herman Wormfield, who I did not know.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um interesting.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: He directed Legally Blonde 2, and then immediately after that he directed The Legally Blonde Pilot.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_02: That explains you gotta you gotta after this, you have to show me the Legally Blonde Pilot.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'll I'll send you it, yeah.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_00: I uh And he hasn't he made one movie since then called The Hammer He seems to have just like disappeared.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder why they would choose him to um direct this movie.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's very strange.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think the reason why they um I think the reason why they tried to make Elle into this almost icon, like goddess, center of every frame, is because she is supposed to come off as strong enough to be able to speak for the little person.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, Bursar, the storyline, it's funny, it's a dog, whatever.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_02: But at the end of the day, what the analogy they're trying to make is that he represents like the the people without a voice.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_02: He's a dog and he cannot speak for he cannot speak for himself.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Literally doesn't have a voice.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, um, bringing your dog into a courtroom to break to prove a point, that's a boss move, I think.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, that makeup you're wearing, it came from this guy.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Say something to him.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Look at this face and tell him he can't meet his mom.
• 1:18:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's she's she she thinks like a lawyer and she's very intelligent.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she knows how to like she knows how to play it.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it it in this movie, she she isn't using just her knowledge of the world to uh you know prove her point to get to her agenda because it's it's not enough to just have knowledge of the world.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's not enough that she's smart and she's a lawyer and she has an understanding of the legal system.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's obviously a lot more at play, you know, in government.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just this is morally wrong, so we should stop this.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_02: You you also have to take into consideration like Sally Field's character starts off by you know being supportive of her and being like, Yeah, like let's get this bill passed.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm totally down.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_02: And then um, because of one reason or another, she's like, I actually can't do this anymore.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_02: That speech that she delivers to her, where uh Elle Woods is like, why would you, you know, why would you go ahead and backstab me?
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why would you backstab me?
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_02: I thought like we were in this together.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like you, you were my inspiration.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's kind of like, Look, like to get to where I am now, yeah.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's politics.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_02: To get to where I am now, I had to, you know, bend my own morals a little bit.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_02: And that's just a fact of the of politics.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's really sad to witness.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's real as well, though.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's why I appreciate it about that.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it was like this is a real thing that happens, and it's it is sad, yeah.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when I was a kid and I was watching that movie, I was like, I can't believe Sally Field is compromising her morality for this.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_02: But now I watch it, I'm like, yeah, it makes sense.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_00: It happens all the time, it happens every day.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_02: She had to do what she had to do, and I I love the parallel between her and Regina King because she is still somewhat sticking to her morals and uh to what she believes is right, and she's not as successful as Sally Field is yet.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I I feel like that's the distinction between the two.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_02: And that is the distinction between El Woods as well, because she refuses.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_02: So she has to think creatively outside the box to, you know, find a way to get her bill passed.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_02: So she doesn't say, you know, like, hey, you know, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_02: If you pass this bill for me, I'll, you know, uh help you out by raising oil prices.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, who knows how politics works.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that's exactly how it works.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_02: Correct.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I've seen enough episodes of Veep to understand that.
• 1:20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, she says, like, guys, at the end of the day, like, don't aren't we all really the same?
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, didn't we all have like a furry friend that we love?
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, let's put aside our differences and agree on one thing, which is that we love dogs.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think it it's very sweet.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_02: It does give people hope to watch this movie again.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that would never actually happen in real life, but it's hopefully.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, absolutely not.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, could you imagine uh like AOC bringing a dog into the White House and be like, come on, guys?
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_00: What Fox News would do with that.
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh boy, I I wouldn't want to be around a witness.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um Okay, so unless you have any final thoughts on that, um we can move on to the the final segment.
• 1:21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else you want to talk about with that?
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think my overall thoughts with uh legally blonde too are that it it has all the things that we want to see, which is El Wood's kicking butt, um, you know, sparkly glittery things, which we love, huge closets.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um but it also the reason why I wasn't so successful was because it just simply did not have the same plot as like plot flow as the first movie.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_02: This was really just uh a movie made to show the world that El Woods is unstoppable.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which I I appreciate.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't I think that makes it a redeemable movie.
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's worth a second watch.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's my closing thoughts on that.
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_00: So uh okay, so let's move on to the final segment then, which is do you have a reverse of this, which is um a movie that you think is bad but is universally loved and praised.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm gonna say it.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Say it.
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna be okay with it.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm okay with it, like whatever.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because there are no wrong things.
• 1:23:07
  SPEAKER_02: There's no wrong options.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_02: There aren't.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_02: This is just my opinion.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's personal opinions, and you can't be wrong with a personal opinion.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_02: I wanna say that the big Lebowski is totally, totally more hyped up than it needs to be.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's so overrated.
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_02: I I I watched the Big Lebowski um in in complete length, at least one time, and I simply did not understand.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I did not understand why I spent the majority of my school years, like in high school and middle school, listening to every guy I know quote this movie incessantly as if it were God's scripture.
• 1:23:49
  SPEAKER_02: I I just don't get it.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_02: I really don't.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_02: It is essentially a movie where nothing happens.
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it's almost the complete reverse of Legally Blonde.
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_02: One, compared to Legally Blonde One, yeah, because the dude is just a regular guy who gets nothing done, doesn't really care about life, doesn't really care about his appearance, frankly.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_02: And and yet everybody loves this movie.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's like artsy, like because it's like weird and out there, and this is coming from a Cohen Brothers fan.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I loved Fargo, like I I loved there there's there's just nothing about this movie that should be as iconic as everybody paints it out to be.
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_00: I do actually like okay, you agree.
• 1:24:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's the one it's the one Cohen Brothers movie that I'm just like, I don't get it.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get why this is so loved.
• 1:24:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's yeah it's boring.
• 1:24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not that it's not very funny.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's just not.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's quotable.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's I don't get why No, no, yeah, the the whole well, most of the time they just they say like Donnie, get my gunner.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really know.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what I'm saying.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_00: I know the quote I know what you're saying.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like I know what I know what we can quote.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying I don't get why those are quotes that people wanted to say.
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're not maybe, yeah.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe the one quote I can think of is like, um that's just like your opinion, man.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_02: That was the dude.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, what I don't know.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_02: I think the Cone Brothers made Burn After Reading, and that also is kind of a movie where like a lot happens, but also not a lot happens.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_02: But it was still it had a point, and at the end of the movie, they were like, Well, what did we learn?
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing, but also everything.
• 1:25:43
  SPEAKER_02: And that was that was great.
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_02: But the Big Lebowski kind of there's so many plot lines that are just never followed up on, and I hate that.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:25:51
  SPEAKER_02: I I I I I don't get it.
• 1:25:54
  SPEAKER_02: I really don't.
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_00: I agree completely.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's one where like it becomes such a that is a complete cult classic, uh in that sense, and like, and it's one that I don't think deserves it.
• 1:26:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's critically acclaimed too, right?
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah well there there's probably there's like books written about the big Lebowski and how it's actually like dudism potentially genius, huh?
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's the whole like religion of like Buddhism now and everything as well.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's very Taoist, you know, just like allowing to just accepting everything that happens to you, sure.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just pretty seems pretentious for the sake of it.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_02: If if my favorite type of movie is a movie where it's super bad, but like really good, the Big Lebowski just isn't that.
• 1:26:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's just nothing it's the reverse of that.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's soup.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's quote unquote super good, like it's it's very well made.
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it it just I I don't I I'm not there's something that you were talking about at the beginning of this podcast.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_02: You brought up a movie that made me think of a big Lebowski because it was very artsy.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember what it was?
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_02: We were talking about it.
• 1:27:13
  SPEAKER_02: I go.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um It was like when we were talking about not Harry Potter, but um Star Wars, like it was very stylized, it was an art house film.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I know.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I name a bunch of things in it.
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know, yeah, I know.
• 1:27:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's gonna bother me, and I'm gonna text you about it later and be like, ah, that's what it was.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I mean, if this movie, if the Big Lebowski is popular because of how like its art direction and set design, there's there's plenty of cult classic movies that Batman and Robin, that is what it was.
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, yeah, that's not what I was expecting.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay, because that is an example of a movie that is high.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Highly stylized.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean absolutely the art department had a field day on that movie and yet it is critically murdered.
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_02: But I I want to say that like it must be the difference in like writing because there's really I wouldn't argue that the Big Lebowski is more stylized than Batman and Robin is.
• 1:28:25
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like they're equally um on the same level.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_02: And yet neither are better than the other.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I would rather actually rewatch Batman and Robin.
• 1:28:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's more fun.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is more fun.
• 1:28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Arnold Schwarzenegger as the as the what's the frozen guy?
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Freeze.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_02: Freeze.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Freeze.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, Mr.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Freeze.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_02: That already sounds wrong.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, that doesn't sound right.
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm saying I'm more used to uh I was about to say Frozone, but that's from the Frozen.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's too many.
• 1:28:59
  SPEAKER_02: I do love a superhero movie.
• 1:29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was about to say.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know if anybody has ever been on this podcast and listed like a Marvel movie as their worst.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:29:10
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think somebody said Avengers at some point.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I really love a superhero movie because they're so cheesy, but they're so good.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Elle is like the ultimate superhero.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_02: She is, isn't she a superhero?
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_02: She should be wearing a cape.
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I it as a as an audience member, you watch Elle Woods and you think there's actually nothing she can't do.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I am safe in my seat in the movie theater knowing that Elle Woods will accomplish whatever she sets her mind to.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I think that's really comforting.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's great that they were able to create a character like that that's so that has a positive attitude and that she won't it's nice to see someone with a positive attitude as well, like not to be like down throughout the whole movie.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's nice to have them like constantly believing in themselves.
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and believing other believing in other people as well.
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_02: Correct.
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_02: This is a very feminist movie.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's very much it shows an example of what it's like when you don't support your fellow woman, and then what it's like when you do support your fellow woman and how how much you can accomplish.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I I respect that so much.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't actually get a lot of that in Legally Blonde, yeah.
• 1:30:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because there was the whole, you know, we we didn't have that narrative whatsoever in Legally Blonde because it was just against it, it was just Selma Blair versus Reese Witherspoon's character.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like they were very much just like, I'm your enemy and you're my enemy, and this is how we treat each other.
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_02: But here it's like no no one's fighting over a guy.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Love that.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_02: And they're just the it shows the that it takes a village.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:30:51
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, that's a good place to end it.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:30:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't really know what else I would love to say.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_02: I I I think I think we should all re-watch this movie.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Matter of fact, I'm gonna You're gonna rewatch it again.
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_02: I might, yeah.
• 1:31:08
  SPEAKER_02: It was cute.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's like cute to see how heinous 2000s fashion was.
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Frankly.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Reminds me to be humble.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_00: We'll look back on our fashion and be like, what will we wear?
• 1:31:24
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_02: The biggest mistake this movie made was uh the fashion.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_02: The fashion.
• 1:31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Gross.
• 1:31:35
  SPEAKER_02: But we'll excuse El Woods for it.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_02: She had good intentions.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, so um, do you have anything that you'd like to plug?
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_00: And how can we find you online?
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, I'm on Twitter, Chell Irena, um, constantly going viral.
• 1:31:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm on Instagram, Irena C D Z E.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_02: I have an IMDB, but you can't, you shouldn't really do anything with that, I don't think.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Shouldn't do what would you do with it?
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Just look at it.
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Research?
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:32:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um in terms of plugging, I mean, I do stand up.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, New York is opening back up again, and I'll be able to practice outside.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean, I've just been doing like Zoom stuff in the meantime.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm a writer.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_02: I have a couple of pilots under my belt, but those I cannot release to the public, unfortunately.
• 1:32:26
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, you will be seeing some of them some point in the near future.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm also very excited for something you're working on at the moment.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, of course.
• 1:32:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I my day job when I'm not, you know, writing or watching videos of bulldogs on YouTube, is um I I work in film and TV.
• 1:32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, most notably, I've worked on Modern Love, um, seasons one and two, marriage story, and right now I'm working on the other two, which is a show that's on HBO Max.
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's hysterical.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_02: So good.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_02: I you've seen it.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 1:33:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes! Nice! Did you see it before um I saw the comedy became available?
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I saw the Comedy Central.
• 1:33:12
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_02: I love to hear it because I didn't know it was such a gem until I watched it.
• 1:33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um when I started working on it.
• 1:33:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, right.
• 1:33:22
  SPEAKER_00: Did you so you only worked on season two?
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_02: I only worked on season two, yeah.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I am currently working on season two.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's gonna be available sometime this summer, god willing.
• 1:33:31
  SPEAKER_02: We're running into a few bumps.
• 1:33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  SPEAKER_00: As I saw this morning.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, that was that was pretty rough.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um working on a film set during COVID has been I can imagine.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's like running uphill with two sandbags tied to your feet.
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's very difficult.
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um but I try to humble myself by thinking about how difficult it must be to be an essential worker during the times of COVID.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_02: So I just keep my head down to my job.
• 1:33:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful that I'm able to live my dream and make movies and shows that I'm really passionate about and really love.
• 1:34:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're working on some great stuff, so thank you.
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I actually just realized that that kind of was inspired by Elle in the sense that she well, hey, yeah.
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I have always wanted to work in film and television since I was a little kid.
• 1:34:23
  SPEAKER_02: There's not been a doubt in my mind that that's what I want to do.
• 1:34:28
  SPEAKER_02: But my parents have always tried to get me to choose a more sensible path in life.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_02: And that I didn't I didn't disobey them just because I wanted to, but I I I knew that I could accomplish what I wanted to do if I just set my mind to it.
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I once had a little bit of something to do with that because I did.
• 1:34:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great message.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I I'm happy that she was able to be my inspiration.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm coming to this realization now on this therapy podcast.
• 1:35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, should I charge you?
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, alright, I'm gonna go lie on the couch.
• 1:35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Go lie on the couch and watch legally gone to speak to me out, please.
• 1:35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me how to be here.
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right, thanks for so much for doing this.
• 1:35:20
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me on this.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_02: This was a pleasure.
• 1:35:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's the end of the podcast.
• 1:35:25
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• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll see you next week for more movies that critics got long.