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Chinese Zodiac for Kids: 12 Animals, One Powerful Story · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

3:44
Hi,
3:45
my
3:45
name
3:45
is
3:45
Peter
3:45
Cotton,
3:47
not
3:47
named
3:47
after
3:48
a
3:48
rabbit.
3:49
I'm
3:49
the
3:49
author
3:49
of
3:50
10
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books
3:51
for
3:51
young
3:52
children
3:52
featuring
3:53
Fred
3:54
the
3:54
friendly
3:55
and
3:55
helpful
3:55
Snake.
3:56
And
3:57
I
3:57
live
3:57
in
3:57
South
3:57
Carolina
3:58
on
3:58
Charleston.
3:59
I'm
4:00
looking
4:00
out
4:00
at
4:00
the
4:00
sun
4:01
and
4:01
the
4:01
beach
4:01
right
4:02
now.
4:03
Couldn't
4:03
be
4:03
better.
4:04
But
4:04
I'm
4:04
very
4:04
happy
4:05
to
4:05
join
4:05
you
4:05
and
4:06
talk
4:06
about
4:07
my
4:07
writing
4:08
journey.
4:09
Started
4:09
off
4:10
as
4:10
a
4:10
professor
4:10
of
4:11
medicine,
4:11
and
4:12
when
4:12
I
4:12
retired,
4:13
my
4:14
wife
4:14
said
4:14
she
4:14
married
4:15
me
4:15
for
4:15
life,
4:15
but
4:16
not
4:16
for
4:16
lunch,
4:16
so
4:17
you
4:17
better
4:17
find
4:17
something
4:18
else
4:19
to
4:19
do.
4:20
I
4:20
started
4:21
on
4:21
my
4:22
children's
4:22
books.
4:23
Oh,
4:23
great.
4:23
So
4:24
we're
4:24
going
4:24
to
4:24
jump
4:24
right
4:25
into
4:25
that.
4:25
So
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thanks,
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Peter,
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for
4:26
appearing
4:27
on
4:27
the
4:27
Adventures
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in
4:28
the
4:28
Heart
4:28
of
4:28
Children's
4:29
Book
4:29
Authors
4:30
podcast.
4:31
Like
4:31
Peter
4:31
said,
4:32
he's
4:32
written
4:32
10
4:33
books
4:33
in
4:33
his
4:34
children's
4:34
book
4:34
series,
4:35
Fred
4:36
the
4:36
Snake,
4:36
and
4:36
today
4:37
we're
4:37
going
4:37
to
4:37
be
4:37
focusing
4:38
on
4:38
his
4:38
new
4:39
book,
4:39
what
4:39
Fred
4:40
the
4:40
Snake
4:40
and
4:40
His
4:41
Friends
4:41
Learn
4:41
about
4:42
the
4:42
Chinese
4:42
Zodiac
4:43
and
4:43
the
4:44
Great
4:44
Race.
4:45
I'm
4:45
looking
4:45
forward
4:45
to
4:46
our
4:46
conversation,
4:47
Peter.
4:47
Peter,
4:48
before
4:48
we
4:48
get
4:49
into
4:49
the
4:50
details
4:51
of
4:51
your
4:51
book,
4:52
can
4:52
you
4:53
tell
4:53
us
4:53
what
4:53
being
4:54
a
4:54
children's
4:54
book
4:55
author
4:55
means
4:55
to
4:56
you?
4:57
Enjoy
4:57
it
4:57
enormously.
4:58
I
4:58
got
4:58
a
4:59
lot
4:59
of
4:59
stimulation
5:00
from
5:00
my
5:00
grandchildren,
5:01
as
5:01
I
5:02
know
5:02
you
5:02
did,
5:02
having
5:03
read
5:03
some
5:03
stuff
5:04
about
5:04
you
5:04
and
5:04
your
5:05
books,
5:06
and
5:06
they
5:06
seem
5:07
to
5:07
enjoy
5:07
it,
5:07
and
5:08
I
5:08
enjoy
5:09
working
5:09
with
5:09
them.
5:09
My
5:10
first
5:10
one
5:10
was
5:10
actually
5:11
a
5:12
bedtime
5:12
story
5:13
when
5:13
my
5:13
kids
5:14
were
5:14
very
5:14
young.
5:14
That's
5:15
the
5:15
50
5:15
years
5:15
ago,
5:17
I
5:17
told
5:18
them
5:18
a
5:18
bedtime
5:18
story
5:19
about
5:19
how
5:19
to
5:19
cross
5:19
the
5:20
road.
5:20
Actually,
5:21
how
5:21
not
5:21
to
5:22
cross
5:22
the
5:22
road
5:22
because
5:23
unfortunately,
5:24
Fred
5:24
didn't
5:25
quite
5:25
understand
5:26
what
5:26
he
5:26
had
5:26
to
5:26
do.
5:27
And
5:27
he
5:27
got
5:27
into
5:28
a
5:28
little
5:28
bit
5:28
of
5:28
an
5:28
accident
5:29
with
5:29
an
5:29
ambulance
5:30
and
5:30
had
5:30
to
5:30
go
5:30
to
5:30
hospital.
5:31
And
5:32
that's
5:32
a
5:32
story.
5:32
But
5:33
anyway,
5:33
I
5:33
didn't
5:33
do
5:33
anything
5:34
with
5:34
it
5:34
until
5:35
my
5:35
kids
5:36
had
5:36
their
5:36
kids
5:37
and
5:37
they
5:37
said,
5:37
what
5:38
happened
5:38
to
5:38
Fred?
5:39
Actually,
5:39
I
5:40
said,
5:40
what
5:40
happened
5:41
to
5:41
Fred?
5:41
Fred.
5:41
Because
5:42
Fred
5:42
was
5:43
actually
5:43
in
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two
5:44
pieces
5:44
after
5:44
his
5:45
accident
5:45
for
5:45
a
5:45
while
5:46
before
5:47
he
5:47
got
5:47
mended.
5:48
I
5:48
found
5:48
the
5:48
text.
5:49
I
5:49
found
5:49
a
5:50
wonderful
5:50
illustrator
5:51
who
5:51
happens
5:51
to
5:51
be
5:52
Canadian,
5:54
not
5:54
very
5:54
close
5:54
to
5:54
you,
5:55
but
5:55
near
5:55
in
5:55
Toronto
5:56
somewhere.
5:57
And
5:57
she
5:58
and
5:58
I
5:58
got
5:59
out
5:59
the
5:59
first
5:59
book
5:59
when
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Fred
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the
6:01
Snake
6:01
got
6:02
squished
6:02
and
6:02
mended.
6:03
And
6:03
you
6:04
wrote
6:04
your
6:04
first
6:04
book
6:05
in
6:05
2018,
6:07
is
6:07
that
6:07
correct?
6:08
Actually,
6:09
that
6:09
was
6:09
an
6:09
update
6:09
of
6:10
it.
6:10
2010,
6:12
I
6:12
think,
6:12
was
6:12
the
6:13
first
6:13
time
6:13
it
6:13
came
6:14
out
6:14
okay,
6:15
but
6:15
then
6:15
it
6:15
got
6:16
changed
6:16
a
6:16
little
6:16
bit.
6:17
Were
6:18
children
6:19
the
6:19
inspiration
6:21
behind
6:21
your
6:22
first
6:22
book?
6:23
Yes,
6:24
no
6:24
question.
6:24
It
6:25
was
6:25
a
6:25
bedtime
6:25
story.
6:26
I
6:26
was
6:26
trying
6:26
to
6:26
keep
6:27
them
6:27
amused
6:27
and
6:27
perhaps
6:28
educated
6:28
a
6:28
little
6:28
bit
6:29
at
6:29
the
6:29
same
6:29
time.
6:29
And
6:30
that
6:31
applies
6:31
to
6:31
all
6:31
my
6:31
books,
6:32
I
6:32
like
6:32
to
6:32
think
6:32
that
6:33
kids
6:33
are
6:33
amused,
6:34
but
6:34
there's
6:34
also
6:34
some
6:35
subtle
6:35
education
6:36
in
6:36
there
6:36
where
6:36
they're
6:36
not
6:36
looking,
6:37
like
6:38
how
6:38
not
6:38
to
6:38
cross
6:38
the
6:39
road.
6:39
I
6:40
love
6:40
it.
6:40
I
6:40
love
6:41
it.
6:41
Tell
6:42
us
6:42
the
6:42
inspiration
6:43
now
6:43
behind
6:44
your
6:46
latest
6:46
book
6:47
because
6:47
it's
6:47
certainly
6:48
different
6:49
from
6:49
your.
6:50
Your
6:50
first
6:50
book.
6:50
Tell
6:51
us
6:51
how
6:51
Fred
6:52
went
6:52
on
6:52
this
6:53
journey
6:53
or
6:53
adventure.
6:55
It's
6:55
because
6:56
some
6:56
of
6:56
my
6:57
Chinese
6:57
friends,
6:57
of
6:58
which
6:58
I
6:58
have
6:58
many,
6:58
because
6:59
I
6:59
lectured
6:59
in
7:00
China
7:00
many
7:01
times,
7:01
said,
7:02
you
7:02
realize
7:03
that
7:03
2025
7:04
is
7:04
the
7:05
year
7:05
of
7:05
the
7:05
snake
7:06
in
7:06
the
7:06
Chinese
7:07
calendar?
7:08
And
7:08
I
7:08
said,
7:08
oh,
7:09
actually,
7:09
I
7:09
didn't.
7:10
I'm
7:10
embarrassed
7:11
to
7:11
say.
7:11
So
7:12
I
7:12
looked
7:12
that
7:12
up,
7:13
and
7:13
I
7:13
found
7:14
the
7:14
Chinese
7:14
zodiac
7:16
lunar
7:16
calendar,
7:17
as
7:17
some
7:17
call
7:17
it,
7:17
is
7:18
actually
7:18
rather
7:18
fun
7:19
because
7:19
it
7:19
consists
7:20
of
7:21
12
7:21
animals,
7:22
and
7:22
the
7:23
order
7:23
in
7:23
which
7:23
they
7:24
appear
7:24
in
7:24
the
7:25
calendar
7:25
is
7:25
determined
7:26
by
7:26
the
7:27
great
7:27
race.
7:27
They
7:28
have
7:28
to
7:28
race
7:28
across
7:28
the
7:29
river
7:30
to
7:30
meet
7:30
the
7:31
Jade
7:31
Emperor
7:32
at
7:32
the
7:32
Heavenly
7:33
Gate.
7:33
And
7:34
it
7:34
seemed
7:34
an
7:34
ideal
7:35
story
7:36
to
7:36
publish
7:36
in
7:37
2025
7:38
during
7:38
the
7:39
year
7:39
of
7:39
the
7:39
Snake.
7:40
I
7:40
loved
7:40
it
7:40
because
7:41
guess
7:41
what
7:41
year
7:42
I
7:42
was
7:42
born?
7:42
My
7:42
wife
7:43
and
7:43
I
7:43
were
7:43
born
7:43
in
7:43
the
7:44
same
7:44
year,
7:44
but
7:45
we
7:45
were
7:45
born
7:45
in
7:46
the
7:46
Year
7:46
of
7:46
the
7:46
Snake.
7:47
Oh,
7:48
great.
7:48
I
7:49
think
7:49
I
7:49
look
7:49
a
7:49
little
7:49
older
7:50
than
7:50
1
7:51
years
7:51
old,
7:51
but
7:52
we
7:52
were
7:52
actually
7:52
water
7:53
snakes,
7:54
thanks
7:54
to
7:54
you.
7:55
You
7:55
opened
7:55
our
7:55
eyes
7:56
up
7:56
to
7:56
the
7:56
Chinese
7:57
zodiac
7:58
calendar.
7:59
Yeah,
7:59
it
7:59
is
8:00
fun.
8:00
And
8:00
it's
8:01
still
8:01
used
8:01
for
8:01
ceremonial
8:02
occasions.
8:03
And
8:03
the
8:03
year
8:04
starts,
8:05
finishes,
8:06
and
8:06
starts
8:06
again
8:07
at
8:07
the
8:07
Spring
8:08
Festival,
8:08
which
8:08
was
8:09
just
8:09
started
8:09
last
8:10
two
8:10
weeks
8:10
ago,
8:10
February
8:11
17,
8:12
when
8:12
all
8:12
the
8:13
Chinese
8:14
get
8:14
together
8:14
and
8:14
have
8:15
a
8:15
great
8:15
family
8:16
time
8:16
and
8:17
have
8:17
a
8:17
lot
8:17
to
8:17
eat
8:18
and
8:18
they
8:18
dance
8:19
around.
8:20
So
8:20
it's
8:20
a
8:20
very
8:21
exuberant
8:22
time.
8:23
That's
8:23
fantastic.
8:24
Was
8:25
it
8:25
your
8:25
Chinese
8:26
friends
8:27
making
8:28
you
8:28
aware
8:28
of
8:29
the
8:29
Chinese
8:29
zodiac
8:30
that
8:30
triggered
8:31
your
8:31
whole
8:32
new
8:32
adventure
8:33
in
8:33
your
8:33
latest
8:33
book?
8:34
Yes,
8:35
it
8:35
was.
8:35
It
8:35
was.
8:36
They
8:36
got
8:36
me
8:36
started.
8:37
I'd
8:38
been
8:38
thinking
8:38
about
8:39
something
8:39
else
8:39
because
8:40
my
8:40
seven,
8:41
eight,
8:41
and
8:41
nine
8:42
books
8:42
were
8:42
all
8:42
about
8:42
traveling
8:43
around
8:43
the
8:43
United
8:44
States
8:44
visiting
8:45
all
8:45
the
8:46
popular
8:46
famous
8:46
sites.
8:48
So
8:48
I
8:48
was
8:48
looking
8:48
for
8:48
something
8:50
a
8:50
little
8:50
different.
8:51
And
8:51
that
8:51
one
8:52
just
8:52
took
8:52
my
8:52
eye
8:53
very
8:53
quickly.
8:53
And
8:53
I
8:53
knew
8:54
that
8:55
Bonnie
8:55
the
8:55
illustrator
8:56
was
8:56
going
8:56
to
8:57
have
8:57
a
8:57
real
8:57
ball
8:57
with
8:58
it,
8:58
and
8:59
she
8:59
did.
8:59
And
8:59
we'll
9:00
definitely
9:00
get
9:00
into
9:00
talking
9:01
about
9:01
your
9:01
illustrator
9:02
a
9:02
little
9:02
later
9:02
in
9:03
the
9:03
show.
9:03
I'm
9:03
interested,
9:04
Peter.
9:05
I
9:05
love
9:05
it
9:05
when
9:05
I
9:06
can
9:06
have
9:06
someone
9:06
on
9:07
who's
9:08
been
9:08
a
9:09
children's
9:09
book
9:09
author
9:10
for
9:10
as
9:10
long
9:10
as
9:11
you
9:11
have.
9:11
And
9:12
I
9:12
like
9:12
to
9:12
talk
9:12
to
9:13
people
9:13
about
9:13
their
9:14
children's
9:14
book
9:15
business.
9:15
And
9:15
as
9:16
a
9:16
seasoned
9:16
children's
9:17
book
9:17
author,
9:18
can
9:18
you
9:19
tell
9:19
us
9:20
about
9:20
your
9:21
children's
9:21
business?
9:22
Book
9:22
plan.
9:23
What
9:23
does
9:23
it
9:23
look
9:23
like?
9:25
That's
9:25
one
9:25
of
9:25
the
9:25
reasons
9:26
I'm
9:26
talking
9:26
to
9:27
people
9:27
like
9:27
you,
9:28
because
9:28
I
9:28
want
9:29
more
9:29
people
9:30
to
9:30
hear
9:30
about
9:30
the
9:31
books.
9:31
My
9:31
wife
9:31
thinks
9:32
it's
9:32
about
9:32
time
9:33
we
9:33
sold
9:33
a
9:34
few
9:34
more
9:35
rather
9:35
than
9:36
just
9:37
go
9:37
on
9:37
writing
9:38
for
9:38
fun.
9:39
I
9:39
think
9:39
your
9:39
wife
9:40
and
9:40
my
9:40
wife
9:40
are
9:40
exactly
9:41
the
9:41
same.
9:43
Yeah,
9:43
I'm
9:43
self
9:44
published,
9:44
but
9:44
I
9:45
have
9:45
actually
9:45
a
9:46
management
9:46
company.
9:47
It's
9:47
a
9:47
sort
9:48
of
9:48
hybrid
9:49
system.
9:49
I'm
9:49
not
9:49
sure
9:50
how
9:50
popular
9:50
that
9:50
is.
9:51
A
9:51
company
9:52
called
9:52
Bublish
9:52
who
9:53
takes
9:54
not
9:54
a
9:54
traditional
9:55
publisher,
9:56
sort
9:56
of
9:57
swallows
9:58
you
9:58
and
9:58
spits
9:58
out
9:59
bits
9:59
at
9:59
a
9:59
time
9:59
and
10:00
does
10:00
some
10:00
publicity
10:00
for
10:01
you.
10:01
These
10:01
people
10:01
just
10:02
take
10:02
care
10:02
of
10:02
the
10:03
things
10:03
that
10:03
need
10:03
to
10:03
be
10:04
done
10:04
like
10:04
getting
10:05
ISBN
10:06
numbers
10:07
and
10:08
getting
10:08
things
10:08
out
10:09
there
10:09
in
10:09
various
10:09
different
10:10
ways.
10:10
So
10:10
that's
10:11
been
10:11
actually
10:12
quite
10:12
a
10:12
useful
10:13
partnership
10:13
for
10:14
me.
10:14
I
10:14
would
10:14
recommend
10:15
it.
10:15
And
10:16
you've
10:16
been
10:16
doing
10:16
that.
10:16
I
10:17
think.
10:17
I
10:17
look
10:17
back
10:17
on
10:18
your
10:18
publishing
10:19
like
10:19
I
10:19
went
10:19
back
10:20
when
10:20
I
10:20
purchased
10:21
your
10:21
first
10:21
book
10:21
and
10:22
I
10:22
noticed
10:22
the
10:22
publisher
10:23
in
10:23
2018
10:24
was
10:25
Publish.
10:26
So
10:26
you've
10:26
been
10:26
with
10:26
them
10:27
a
10:27
long
10:27
time.
10:28
Yes,
10:28
indeed.
10:29
And
10:29
it's
10:30
been
10:30
a
10:30
good
10:30
journey.
10:30
Tell
10:31
us
10:31
a
10:31
little
10:31
bit
10:31
about
10:32
that.
10:32
You
10:32
said
10:33
it's
10:33
hybrid
10:34
and.
10:34
And
10:34
I
10:34
think
10:35
most
10:35
people
10:35
think
10:35
of
10:37
being
10:37
self
10:38
published
10:38
that
10:39
you
10:39
have
10:39
a
10:39
hybrid
10:40
publisher
10:41
and
10:41
they
10:41
pretty
10:41
well
10:42
take
10:42
care
10:42
of
10:43
all
10:43
the
10:43
publishing
10:44
aspects
10:45
of
10:45
it.
10:45
But
10:46
when
10:46
it
10:46
comes
10:46
to
10:46
sales
10:47
and
10:47
marketing,
10:48
they
10:48
take
10:49
a
10:49
backseat
10:49
and
10:49
say
10:50
it's
10:50
up
10:50
to
10:50
the
10:50
children's
10:51
book
10:51
author.
10:52
In
10:52
your
10:52
case,
10:53
you
10:53
have
10:53
a
10:54
more
10:54
symbiotic
10:55
role
10:56
where
10:56
they've
10:56
gotten
10:57
involved
10:57
with
10:57
you.
10:59
The
10:59
answer
10:59
is
11:00
maybe
11:00
basically
11:01
they
11:01
do
11:02
have
11:03
promotion
11:03
people,
11:04
but
11:04
they
11:05
cost
11:05
money.
11:06
It's
11:06
not
11:06
as
11:06
if
11:07
they've
11:07
got
11:07
their
11:08
investment
11:09
on
11:09
the
11:09
line.
11:10
It's
11:10
entirely
11:11
up
11:11
to
11:11
me
11:11
whether
11:12
I
11:12
employ
11:12
them
11:13
to
11:13
put
11:13
out
11:13
ads
11:14
and
11:14
things
11:14
like
11:15
that.
11:15
Which
11:15
seems
11:16
fine.
11:16
It's
11:16
a
11:16
business.
11:17
Absolutely.
11:17
And
11:18
that's
11:18
why
11:18
I
11:18
always
11:19
talk
11:19
right
11:20
up
11:20
front.
11:20
When
11:21
we
11:21
get
11:21
aspiring
11:22
children's
11:22
book
11:23
authors
11:23
listening
11:24
to
11:24
us
11:24
or
11:24
even
11:25
potential
11:26
readers
11:26
to
11:26
understand
11:27
that
11:27
what
11:27
the
11:28
children's
11:28
book
11:28
author
11:29
is
11:29
making
11:30
an
11:30
investment
11:31
because
11:31
generally
11:31
they're
11:32
independently
11:33
or
11:33
self
11:34
hybrid
11:34
published.
11:35
Not
11:35
a
11:35
lot
11:35
of
11:35
us
11:36
get
11:36
a
11:36
traditional
11:37
publisher.
11:38
That's
11:38
why
11:38
I
11:38
like
11:38
to
11:39
bring
11:39
up
11:39
the
11:39
business
11:39
aspect
11:40
of
11:40
it
11:40
so
11:41
that
11:41
people
11:41
understand
11:42
the
11:42
moment
11:42
they
11:42
create
11:43
a
11:43
published
11:44
children's
11:44
book,
11:45
they
11:45
really
11:45
have
11:46
a
11:46
product.
11:46
And
11:46
when
11:47
you
11:47
have
11:47
a
11:47
product,
11:48
you'd
11:48
like
11:48
to
11:48
sell
11:48
it
11:49
and
11:49
you'd
11:49
like
11:49
to
11:49
market
11:50
it.
11:51
Yeah.
11:51
And
11:51
people
11:52
need
11:52
to
11:52
understand
11:53
that
11:53
perhaps
11:53
99%
11:54
of
11:55
these
11:55
or
11:56
lose
11:56
money
11:56
and
11:56
1%
11:57
make
11:57
money.
11:59
That
11:59
is
11:59
absolutely
12:00
true.
12:00
So
12:00
thank
12:01
you
12:01
for
12:01
sharing
12:01
that
12:02
no,
12:02
it's
12:02
really
12:03
important
12:03
so
12:03
people
12:04
understand
12:04
that
12:04
part
12:05
of
12:05
it
12:05
and
12:05
that
12:06
they
12:06
need
12:06
to
12:06
think
12:06
about
12:07
more
12:07
as
12:07
a
12:08
business.
12:08
So
12:08
at
12:08
least
12:09
you've
12:09
got
12:10
some
12:10
revenue
12:10
coming
12:11
in
12:11
to
12:11
support
12:12
your
12:12
habit.
12:14
Yes,
12:15
it
12:15
is
12:15
a
12:15
bit
12:15
of
12:15
a
12:15
habit,
12:16
you're
12:16
right.
12:16
When
12:17
it
12:17
comes
12:17
to
12:17
publishing,
12:18
now
12:18
that
12:18
you've
12:18
had
12:19
almost,
12:19
I
12:20
guess
12:20
over
12:20
8
12:20
years
12:21
experience,
12:22
what's
12:22
the
12:22
biggest
12:23
challenge
12:23
or
12:24
frustration
12:25
behind
12:25
the
12:25
whole
12:26
publishing
12:26
process?
12:27
Is
12:28
there
12:28
something
12:28
you
12:28
can
12:28
share
12:29
with
12:29
us?
12:30
Yeah,
12:30
it's
12:31
sales,
12:31
basically.
12:32
Everything
12:32
else
12:33
is
12:33
a
12:33
lot
12:33
of
12:33
fun.
12:34
But
12:34
getting
12:35
the
12:35
word
12:35
out
12:35
there,
12:36
there's
12:36
a
12:36
zillion
12:36
children's
12:37
books
12:37
out
12:38
there.
12:38
If
12:38
you
12:38
walk
12:38
into
12:39
a
12:39
major
12:40
bookstore,
12:41
go
12:41
to
12:41
the
12:41
children's
12:42
department,
12:42
get
12:43
very
12:43
depressed
12:44
because
12:44
there
12:44
are
12:45
million
12:45
books
12:46
and
12:46
a
12:47
lot
12:47
of
12:47
them
12:48
really
12:48
very
12:48
good.
12:49
When
12:49
I
12:49
review
12:50
other
12:50
children's
12:51
books,
12:51
as
12:51
I
12:51
do
12:52
a
12:52
nice
12:53
company
12:53
called
12:54
Goodnight
12:54
Reads,
12:55
I'm
12:55
not
12:55
sure
12:55
we
12:55
ever
12:56
come
12:56
across
12:56
that,
12:56
which
12:57
is
12:57
a
12:57
way
12:57
of
12:58
getting
12:58
reviews.
12:59
You
12:59
review
12:59
other
13:00
people's
13:00
books
13:00
and
13:00
they
13:01
review
13:01
your
13:01
books.
13:02
But
13:02
bottom
13:03
line
13:03
is
13:04
there
13:04
are
13:04
plenty
13:04
of
13:05
books
13:05
in
13:05
the
13:05
bookstores
13:06
that
13:06
have
13:06
got
13:07
thousands
13:08
of
13:08
five
13:09
star
13:09
reviews
13:09
and
13:10
they
13:10
get
13:10
a
13:10
lot
13:11
of
13:11
attention.
13:12
That's
13:12
undoubtedly
13:14
the
13:14
main
13:14
frustration.
13:15
It's
13:15
great
13:15
writing
13:16
them.
13:16
It's
13:16
fun
13:17
giving
13:18
them
13:18
away
13:18
to
13:18
the
13:18
grandchildren
13:19
and
13:19
reading
13:19
to
13:20
them
13:20
and
13:20
persuading
13:21
some
13:21
of
13:21
the
13:22
friends
13:22
to
13:22
purchase
13:23
them
13:23
and
13:23
some
13:23
of
13:24
the
13:24
local
13:24
bookstores.
13:25
But
13:26
it's
13:26
an
13:26
uphill
13:26
struggle,
13:27
as
13:27
you
13:27
have
13:27
discovered
13:28
with
13:28
your
13:29
caboose
13:29
book.
13:30
Yes,
13:30
absolutely.
13:31
I
13:31
couldn't
13:31
agree
13:31
with
13:32
you
13:32
more.
13:32
You
13:33
have
13:34
your
13:34
books
13:34
on
13:34
Amazon,
13:35
you
13:35
have
13:35
them
13:36
in,
13:36
I
13:36
believe,
13:36
three
13:37
formats.
13:37
You've
13:38
got
13:38
an
13:39
ebook,
13:39
a
13:39
soft
13:40
cover
13:40
and
13:40
a
13:40
hardcover.
13:41
And
13:41
do
13:42
you
13:42
also
13:42
use
13:43
ingramsparks
13:44
for
13:44
all
13:44
other
13:45
online
13:46
retailers?
13:47
Yes,
13:47
I
13:48
do.
13:48
And
13:48
the
13:48
Soundcop
13:49
is
13:49
available
13:49
on
13:50
my
13:50
website.
13:51
Okay,
13:52
we'll
13:53
talk
13:53
about
13:53
Peter's
13:54
website
13:54
in
13:54
a
13:55
moment.
13:55
But
13:55
it's
13:55
a
13:56
great
13:56
website,
13:56
a
13:57
lot
13:57
of
13:57
fun.
13:57
We'll
13:58
definitely
13:58
put
13:58
links
13:59
to
13:59
your
13:59
website
13:59
in
14:00
our
14:00
show
14:00
notes.
14:01
Are
14:01
you
14:01
doing
14:02
strictly
14:02
print
14:03
on
14:03
demand
14:03
or
14:04
do
14:04
you
14:04
have
14:05
you
14:05
printed
14:05
off
14:06
large
14:06
quantities?
14:08
What's
14:08
your
14:08
strategy
14:09
behind
14:09
that?
14:10
It's
14:11
halfway
14:11
between
14:11
I've
14:12
got
14:12
a
14:12
study
14:13
full
14:13
of
14:13
books
14:13
ready
14:14
to
14:14
be
14:14
given
14:15
away
14:15
or
14:16
sold.
14:16
As
14:16
I
14:16
said,
14:17
I
14:17
sell
14:17
them
14:17
from
14:17
my
14:18
website.
14:19
So
14:19
they're
14:19
printed
14:20
when
14:20
I
14:21
ask
14:21
for
14:21
them
14:21
to
14:21
be
14:21
printed.
14:22
But
14:22
I
14:22
keep
14:23
20
14:24
or
14:24
30
14:24
of
14:24
each
14:25
version,
14:26
each
14:26
book
14:27
on
14:27
hand.
14:28
Let's
14:28
jump
14:29
in
14:29
with
14:29
your
14:29
relationship
14:30
with
14:30
your
14:30
illustrator.
14:31
I
14:31
think
14:31
it's
14:32
Bonnie
14:32
Lemaire.
14:33
Yes.
14:34
When
14:34
I
14:34
talk
14:35
to
14:35
a
14:35
lot
14:35
of
14:36
children's
14:37
book
14:37
authors
14:37
who
14:38
have
14:38
written
14:38
more
14:38
than
14:38
one
14:39
book,
14:39
they
14:40
tend
14:40
to
14:40
stay
14:40
with
14:40
the
14:41
same
14:41
illustrator.
14:42
And
14:43
it's
14:43
pretty
14:43
neat.
14:44
And
14:44
you've
14:44
had
14:44
obviously
14:45
a
14:45
long
14:46
term
14:46
relationship
14:47
with
14:47
your
14:47
illustrator.
14:48
So
14:49
tell
14:49
us
14:49
how
14:50
you
14:50
found
14:50
Bonnie
14:51
and
14:51
then
14:52
tell
14:52
us
14:52
how
14:52
this
14:53
whole
14:53
journey
14:54
of
14:54
having
14:55
her
14:55
be
14:55
involved
14:56
in
14:56
10
14:57
books,
14:57
that's
14:58
pretty
14:58
incredible.
15:00
Right
15:00
at
15:00
the
15:00
beginning,
15:01
when
15:01
I
15:01
was
15:01
looking
15:01
for
15:02
an
15:02
illustrator,
15:03
I
15:03
was
15:04
working
15:04
with
15:04
some
15:04
offshoot
15:05
of
15:05
Amazon
15:06
that
15:06
used
15:06
to
15:06
be
15:06
called
15:06
Createspace
15:07
or
15:07
something
15:08
like
15:08
that.
15:08
Okay.
15:09
And
15:09
they
15:09
gave
15:09
me
15:10
six
15:10
websites
15:11
to
15:11
look
15:11
at
15:12
and
15:12
she
15:13
jumped
15:13
out
15:13
as
15:14
being
15:14
absolutely
15:15
perfect.
15:16
And
15:16
she
15:17
is
15:17
indeed.
15:18
I'm
15:18
enormously
15:19
grateful
15:20
to
15:20
her.
15:20
The
15:20
book
15:20
is
15:21
probably
15:21
60%.
15:23
Any
15:23
success
15:24
is
15:24
probably
15:24
due
15:24
to
15:25
her
15:25
pictures
15:25
rather
15:26
than
15:26
my
15:26
text.
15:26
Although
15:27
I
15:27
do
15:27
try
15:27
quite
15:28
hard.
15:29
But
15:29
we've
15:29
worked
15:30
together
15:30
very
15:30
closely.
15:30
I
15:31
didn't
15:31
meet
15:31
her.
15:32
As
15:32
I
15:32
told
15:33
you,
15:33
she
15:33
lives
15:33
in
15:33
Canada,
15:34
near
15:35
Toronto.
15:36
I
15:36
didn't
15:36
meet
15:37
her
15:37
until
15:37
the
15:37
fourth
15:38
book,
15:38
which
15:38
is
15:38
about
15:39
Charleston,
15:40
where
15:40
I
15:40
live.
15:41
Fred
15:41
and
15:41
his
15:42
friends
15:42
explored
15:42
Charleston
15:44
and
15:44
I
15:44
said,
15:44
if
15:45
you're
15:45
going
15:45
to
15:46
illustrate
15:46
Charleston,
15:47
you
15:47
better
15:47
come
15:48
and
15:48
have
15:48
a
15:48
look
15:48
at
15:48
it.
15:49
And
15:49
so
15:49
she
15:49
came
15:50
with
15:50
her
15:51
purple
15:51
hair
15:52
and
15:52
her
15:53
rather
15:53
aggressive
15:54
teenage
15:54
son
15:55
and
15:56
we
15:56
had
15:56
a
15:56
bit
15:56
of
15:56
fun
15:57
together.
15:58
She's
15:58
promised
15:58
to
15:58
come
15:59
back
15:59
and
15:59
visit
15:59
again
16:00
soon,
16:00
but
16:01
she
16:01
hasn't
16:01
done
16:01
so.
16:02
But
16:02
the
16:02
main
16:03
thing
16:03
about
16:03
her
16:03
acquire
16:04
from
16:04
her
16:04
beautiful
16:05
drawings
16:05
is
16:06
that
16:06
she
16:06
not
16:06
only
16:07
interprets
16:08
what
16:08
I
16:08
ask
16:08
her
16:09
to
16:09
do,
16:09
but
16:10
she
16:10
also
16:10
throws
16:11
other
16:11
things
16:11
in
16:12
there.
16:12
Even
16:12
now,
16:13
if
16:13
I
16:13
go
16:13
back
16:14
to
16:14
read
16:14
one
16:14
of
16:14
the
16:14
earlier
16:15
books,
16:15
I
16:15
see
16:15
something
16:15
that
16:16
I
16:16
hadn't
16:16
noticed
16:16
before,
16:17
which
16:17
is
16:17
just
16:18
to
16:18
add
16:18
a
16:18
little
16:19
tweak,
16:19
somewhere
16:19
there's
16:20
a
16:20
muffrum
16:20
in
16:20
the
16:21
corner
16:21
or
16:22
parrot
16:22
doing
16:23
something
16:23
crazy.
16:24
It's
16:24
just
16:24
amazing.
16:25
It
16:26
is
16:26
terrific.
16:26
When
16:27
you
16:27
get.
16:27
Our
16:28
illustrator
16:29
actually
16:29
lives
16:29
in
16:30
the
16:30
uk.
16:31
Oh.
16:31
Every
16:32
time
16:32
I
16:32
talk
16:33
to
16:33
children's
16:33
book
16:34
authors,
16:34
I'm
16:35
amazed
16:35
at
16:36
where
16:36
their
16:36
illustrators
16:37
are.
16:37
But
16:38
the
16:38
beautiful
16:38
thing
16:38
about
16:39
technology
16:40
today
16:40
is
16:40
that
16:41
it's
16:41
like
16:41
you
16:42
and
16:42
I
16:42
are
16:42
sitting
16:42
in
16:43
the
16:43
same
16:43
room
16:44
and
16:44
yet
16:44
we're
16:45
thousands
16:45
and
16:45
thousands
16:46
of
16:46
kilometers
16:46
away.
16:48
So
16:48
it's
16:49
pretty
16:49
incredible
16:50
what
16:50
technology
16:51
allows
16:51
us
16:52
to
16:52
do.
16:53
Yeah.
16:53
When
16:53
you
16:53
say
16:53
uk,
16:54
you
16:54
mean
16:54
United
16:55
Kingdom.
16:56
I
16:56
do.
16:57
That's
16:57
the
16:57
University
16:57
of
16:58
Kentucky
16:58
around
16:59
here.
16:59
Oh,
17:00
yes.
17:01
I
17:01
do
17:01
mean
17:01
the
17:02
United
17:02
Kingdom.
17:03
That's
17:03
where
17:04
I
17:04
grew
17:04
up
17:04
and
17:05
worked
17:05
for
17:06
first
17:06
half
17:06
of
17:07
my
17:07
life.
17:07
My
17:08
grandfather
17:09
was
17:09
born
17:10
in
17:10
London,
17:11
England.
17:12
Now
17:13
he
17:13
was
17:13
2
17:14
when
17:14
the
17:15
family
17:15
immigrated.
17:16
But
17:16
so
17:17
he
17:17
doesn't
17:17
carry
17:18
the
17:18
same.
17:19
You
17:19
still
17:19
have
17:19
that
17:20
English
17:20
accent
17:21
which
17:21
must
17:21
fascinate
17:22
people.
17:23
I
17:23
don't
17:24
have
17:24
an
17:24
accent.
17:24
Everybody
17:25
else
17:25
around
17:26
me.
17:26
Oh,
17:26
yeah,
17:26
exactly.
17:27
I
17:28
want
17:28
to
17:28
talk
17:28
to
17:28
you
17:28
a
17:29
Little
17:29
bit
17:29
more
17:29
about
17:30
your
17:30
illustrator.
17:31
So
17:31
I
17:31
know
17:31
you
17:31
said
17:32
she
17:32
met
17:32
you
17:33
in
17:33
Charleston
17:34
on
17:34
your
17:34
fourth
17:34
book,
17:34
but
17:35
I
17:35
want
17:35
to
17:35
take.
17:36
Go
17:36
back
17:36
to
17:36
your
17:37
first
17:37
book
17:37
and
17:37
I
17:37
want
17:38
to
17:38
talk
17:38
about
17:39
Fred
17:39
because
17:39
certainly
17:40
want
17:40
to
17:40
talk
17:40
about
17:40
Fred
17:41
the
17:41
snake
17:41
and
17:41
about
17:41
your
17:42
puppeteering.
17:43
And
17:44
I'd
17:44
like
17:44
to
17:45
know,
17:45
did
17:46
you
17:46
have
17:46
a
17:47
vision
17:47
of
17:48
what
17:48
Fred
17:49
should
17:50
look
17:50
like,
17:50
or
17:51
was
17:52
Bonnie,
17:52
who
17:53
said,
17:54
what
17:54
do
17:54
you
17:54
think?
17:56
No,
17:56
she
17:56
came
17:56
up
17:57
with
17:57
it.
17:57
But
17:57
let
17:57
me
17:57
step
17:58
back
17:58
and
17:58
tell
17:58
you
17:59
why
17:59
I
17:59
chose
17:59
a
17:59
snake.
18:00
You
18:00
might
18:00
think
18:01
that
18:01
a
18:01
koala
18:02
bear
18:02
or
18:02
a
18:02
puppy
18:03
would
18:03
actually
18:03
be
18:03
more
18:04
attractive.
18:04
Or
18:05
a
18:05
bear.
18:06
Or
18:06
a
18:06
bear.
18:07
Yeah.
18:07
Cuddling
18:07
bear.
18:08
Not
18:08
a
18:08
big
18:09
black
18:09
bear,
18:09
but
18:09
a
18:09
cuddly
18:10
one.
18:11
But
18:11
if
18:11
we
18:11
go
18:12
back
18:12
to
18:12
when
18:12
my
18:13
kids
18:13
were
18:13
young
18:13
with
18:13
this
18:14
bedtime
18:14
story,
18:15
I
18:15
was
18:16
working
18:16
in
18:16
London
18:17
as
18:17
a
18:17
stomach
18:18
doctor,
18:18
a
18:18
gastroenterologist,
18:20
using
18:20
a
18:20
lot
18:21
of
18:21
those
18:21
flexible
18:22
instruments,
18:22
endoscopes,
18:23
that
18:23
most
18:23
people
18:24
have
18:25
had
18:25
some
18:25
fairly
18:26
familiar
18:27
experience
18:27
with.
18:28
And
18:28
so
18:28
I
18:29
was
18:29
telling
18:29
my
18:29
kids
18:30
what
18:30
I
18:30
was
18:30
doing
18:30
all
18:31
day
18:31
and
18:31
showed
18:31
them
18:31
a
18:32
picture
18:32
of
18:33
a
18:33
flexible
18:35
black
18:35
endoscope.
18:36
And
18:36
my
18:36
son
18:37
said,
18:37
that's
18:37
a
18:37
snake.
18:39
I
18:39
said,
18:39
oh,
18:40
yeah,
18:40
you're
18:40
right,
18:40
it
18:41
is
18:41
a
18:41
snake.
18:42
So
18:42
that's
18:42
for
18:42
some
18:43
reason
18:44
how
18:44
I
18:44
got
18:44
into
18:45
Fred.
18:45
And
18:46
I'm
18:46
trying.
18:46
Been
18:47
trying
18:47
to
18:47
make
18:47
him
18:48
as
18:48
friendly
18:49
and
18:49
helpful
18:49
and
18:50
not
18:50
threatening
18:50
as
18:50
possible.
18:51
But
18:51
some
18:51
people
18:52
still
18:53
a
18:53
little
18:53
bit
18:53
nervous
18:53
about
18:54
now.
18:54
Do
18:54
you
18:54
have
18:55
an
18:55
attachment
18:55
to
18:56
the
18:56
name
18:56
Fred?
18:57
Is
18:57
it
18:57
someone
18:58
from
18:58
your
18:58
family
18:59
or
18:59
your
18:59
past,
19:00
or
19:01
did
19:01
Fred
19:02
just
19:02
seem
19:02
appropriate?
19:04
It's
19:04
a
19:04
good
19:04
question.
19:05
And
19:05
it's
19:05
a.
19:06
There
19:06
was
19:06
a
19:06
song
19:07
at
19:07
the
19:07
time,
19:07
it
19:07
was
19:08
a
19:08
children's
19:08
song.
19:09
Rudd
19:09
said,
19:10
fred,
19:10
have
19:11
a
19:11
cup
19:11
of
19:11
tea.
19:11
And
19:12
it
19:13
was
19:13
an
19:13
obsession.
19:14
We
19:14
sang
19:14
it
19:14
and
19:14
sang
19:15
it.
19:15
So
19:15
that's
19:15
where
19:16
Fred
19:16
came
19:16
from.
19:17
Terrific,
19:18
Terrific.
19:19
Nice
19:20
to
19:20
know.
19:21
So
19:21
let's
19:22
talk
19:22
about
19:22
your
19:23
website,
19:23
because
19:23
you've
19:23
got
19:24
a
19:24
great
19:24
website
19:25
and
19:25
I
19:25
love
19:26
how
19:26
you
19:26
have
19:26
such
19:27
a
19:27
great
19:27
sense
19:27
of
19:27
humor
19:28
about
19:28
your
19:28
name
19:29
and
19:30
because,
19:30
like
19:31
you
19:31
said,
19:31
you're
19:31
not
19:31
the
19:32
rabbit.
19:33
That's
19:33
right.
19:34
But
19:35
you
19:35
probably
19:36
got
19:37
teased
19:38
all
19:38
your
19:38
life
19:39
about
19:39
being
19:40
Peter
19:40
the
19:40
Rabbit.
19:41
Now,
19:41
I
19:41
don't
19:41
know
19:42
when
19:42
Peter
19:42
the
19:42
Cottontail
19:43
was
19:44
written,
19:44
but
19:45
you
19:45
probably
19:45
do.
19:47
Yeah,
19:47
it
19:47
was.
19:47
I
19:48
wasn't
19:48
teased
19:48
because
19:49
I
19:49
didn't
19:49
know
19:50
that
19:50
I
19:50
was
19:50
named
19:51
after
19:51
a
19:51
rabbit
19:51
until
19:51
I
19:52
moved
19:52
to
19:52
the
19:52
United
19:52
States
19:53
because
19:54
it
19:54
pit.
19:54
A
19:54
cottontail
19:56
doesn't
19:56
exist
19:56
or
19:57
didn't
19:57
exist
19:58
in
19:58
England.
19:59
Beatrix
19:59
Potter
20:00
wrote
20:00
about
20:01
Peter
20:01
Rabbit
20:01
and
20:02
Flopsy
20:03
Mopsy
20:03
and
20:04
Peter
20:04
Cottontail,
20:05
but
20:05
she
20:06
never
20:06
wrote
20:06
about
20:06
Peter
20:07
Cottontail.
20:07
That
20:08
was
20:08
a
20:08
sort
20:08
of
20:08
Hallmark
20:09
invention
20:10
in
20:10
the
20:10
States.
20:11
So
20:12
it
20:12
wasn't
20:12
until
20:12
I
20:12
moved
20:13
over
20:13
here
20:13
that
20:14
suddenly
20:14
people
20:14
started
20:14
laughing
20:15
at
20:15
the
20:15
checkout
20:16
counter.
20:16
And
20:17
what
20:17
was
20:17
your
20:17
mother
20:17
thinking?
20:20
So
20:20
I
20:21
could
20:21
have
20:21
been
20:21
a
20:21
little
20:21
bit
20:21
irritated
20:22
after,
20:22
but
20:23
I
20:23
decided
20:23
that
20:23
we
20:24
would.
20:25
We'd
20:25
embrace
20:25
it.
20:26
People
20:26
started
20:26
giving
20:27
us
20:27
rabbits,
20:28
usually
20:28
not
20:28
live
20:29
ones.
20:29
But
20:31
would
20:31
it
20:31
be
20:31
a
20:32
lot
20:32
worse
20:35
than
20:35
be
20:35
associated
20:36
with
20:36
an
20:36
adorable
20:37
rabbit?
20:40
That's
20:40
been
20:40
fun.
20:41
She
20:41
also
20:41
wrote
20:42
about
20:42
Benjamin
20:42
Bunny,
20:43
and
20:43
that
20:43
happens
20:43
to
20:43
be
20:44
my
20:44
middle
20:44
name.
20:44
So
20:45
I've
20:45
got
20:45
the
20:46
whole
20:46
thing
20:46
there.
20:47
When
20:47
you
20:47
were
20:48
putting
20:48
your
20:48
website
20:49
together,
20:49
one
20:49
thing
20:50
I
20:50
noticed
20:50
is
20:50
you
20:51
use
20:51
a
20:51
company
20:51
called
20:52
Tidewater
20:53
Creative
20:54
Media
20:55
with
20:55
your
20:56
website.
20:56
Talk
20:57
to
20:57
us
20:57
about
20:57
that.
20:58
It's
20:59
a
20:59
local
21:00
ex
21:00
serviceman
21:01
called
21:01
Chad
21:02
who
21:02
is
21:03
very
21:03
helpful.
21:04
And
21:04
in
21:04
fact,
21:05
I've
21:05
got
21:05
another
21:06
appointment
21:06
with
21:06
him
21:06
today
21:07
to
21:07
add
21:07
some
21:07
additional
21:08
bragging
21:09
on
21:09
the
21:09
website
21:09
because
21:10
I've
21:10
got
21:10
a
21:10
few
21:10
more
21:10
awards
21:11
recently
21:11
since
21:12
what
21:12
was
21:12
put
21:13
up
21:13
on
21:13
there,
21:14
International
21:15
Impact
21:15
Award
21:16
and
21:16
things
21:16
like
21:16
that.
21:17
Congratulations.
21:19
Thank
21:19
you.
21:19
That's
21:19
been
21:19
a
21:20
good.
21:20
We've
21:20
only
21:21
been
21:21
working
21:21
together
21:21
for
21:22
about
21:22
three
21:22
years,
21:23
I
21:23
think
21:23
revamped
21:25
what
21:25
I
21:25
had
21:25
before.
21:27
I
21:27
signed
21:28
up
21:28
for
21:28
your
21:28
mailing
21:29
list
21:29
because
21:30
you
21:30
offered
21:30
me
21:31
a
21:31
free
21:31
coloring
21:32
book.
21:32
Tell
21:33
us
21:33
about
21:34
the
21:34
coloring
21:35
book
21:35
and
21:36
how
21:36
is
21:37
that
21:37
working
21:37
for
21:38
you?
21:38
That's
21:39
very
21:39
simple.
21:39
And
21:40
since
21:40
only
21:40
the
21:41
front
21:41
page
21:41
is
21:41
in
21:41
color,
21:42
it's
21:42
pretty
21:42
cheap.
21:42
So
21:42
I
21:43
usually
21:43
give
21:43
it
21:43
away
21:45
when
21:45
I've
21:45
got
21:45
a
21:45
stall
21:46
at
21:46
some
21:46
market
21:46
or
21:47
when
21:48
I'm
21:48
talking
21:48
to
21:49
schools
21:49
or
21:49
stuff
21:49
like
21:50
that.
21:50
I
21:50
use
21:50
it
21:51
basically
21:52
as
21:52
a
21:52
gift.
21:52
It's
21:53
based
21:53
on
21:53
the
21:54
first
21:54
book
21:54
which
21:54
Pushcott
21:55
mended.
21:56
It's
21:56
just
21:56
got
21:56
a
21:57
series
21:57
of
21:57
pictures
21:57
that
21:57
kids
21:59
can
21:59
use
21:59
their
21:59
crayons
22:00
on.
22:00
There's
22:01
nothing
22:01
clever
22:02
about
22:02
it.
22:03
Okay.
22:03
No,
22:04
but
22:04
it's
22:05
important,
22:05
Peter,
22:06
as
22:06
we
22:06
talk
22:06
to
22:06
aspiring
22:07
children's
22:07
book
22:07
authors
22:08
and
22:08
they're.
22:09
You're
22:09
always
22:09
looking
22:09
for
22:10
how
22:10
can
22:10
you
22:11
build
22:11
your
22:12
email
22:12
list
22:13
and
22:13
reach
22:14
more
22:14
readers?
22:15
I
22:15
like
22:15
to
22:15
share
22:16
techniques
22:16
that
22:16
other
22:17
children's
22:17
book
22:17
authors
22:18
are
22:18
using.
22:19
And
22:19
how
22:20
would
22:20
you
22:20
say
22:20
it's
22:21
working
22:21
for
22:21
you?
22:22
Has
22:22
it
22:22
been
22:23
building
22:24
a
22:24
children's
22:24
book
22:25
list
22:25
for
22:25
you?
22:26
It's
22:26
difficult
22:27
to
22:27
know.
22:27
Difficult
22:28
to
22:28
answer
22:28
that,
22:28
I'm
22:29
afraid.
22:30
I'm
22:30
not
22:30
sure
22:30
whether
22:30
I'm
22:31
sending
22:31
digital
22:32
versions
22:33
or
22:33
paper
22:34
versions.
22:34
Oh,
22:35
sorry.
22:35
I
22:35
didn't
22:35
ask
22:36
for
22:36
my
22:36
mailing
22:37
address.
22:37
It
22:37
just
22:38
ask
22:38
for
22:38
my
22:38
email
22:39
address.
22:40
I'm
22:40
willing
22:40
to
22:40
guess
22:41
it's
22:41
digital.
22:42
I
22:42
also
22:43
want
22:43
to
22:43
talk
22:43
to
22:43
you
22:43
about
22:44
your
22:44
social
22:45
media.
22:46
Talk
22:46
to
22:46
us
22:47
about
22:47
how
22:47
you're
22:47
using
22:47
your
22:48
social
22:48
media
22:49
to
22:49
promote
22:49
your
22:49
books.
22:51
It's
22:51
not
22:51
intuitive
22:52
to
22:52
me
22:52
as
22:52
a
22:53
great
22:53
grandfather,
22:54
but
22:54
I
22:54
do
22:54
have
22:55
plenty
22:56
of
22:56
grandchildren
22:56
and
22:56
great
22:57
grandchildren
22:57
who
22:58
try
22:58
and
22:58
steer
22:58
me
22:59
and.
23:00
And
23:00
I
23:00
do
23:00
have
23:00
stuff
23:01
on
23:01
Facebook
23:02
and
23:02
Instagram.
23:03
I've
23:03
struggled
23:04
with
23:04
TikTok
23:06
because
23:06
that's
23:07
a
23:07
professional
23:08
organization.
23:09
I
23:09
do
23:10
my
23:10
bit,
23:10
but
23:10
I
23:10
don't
23:10
frankly
23:11
understand
23:11
all
23:12
of
23:12
it
23:12
and
23:12
I'm
23:12
sure
23:13
I'm
23:13
not
23:13
utilizing
23:14
it
23:14
to
23:15
maximum
23:16
effect.
23:17
Yeah,
23:17
I
23:17
did
23:17
notice
23:18
this
23:18
post
23:19
this
23:19
morning.
23:19
You
23:19
had
23:20
commented
23:21
on
23:21
LinkedIn.
23:22
Oh,
23:23
yeah,
23:23
okay,
23:24
that's
23:24
nice.
23:25
Yeah,
23:25
absolutely.
23:26
Absolutely.
23:28
This
23:28
is
23:28
great
23:28
because
23:29
you've
23:29
got
23:29
Chad
23:29
coming
23:30
in
23:30
to
23:30
talk
23:30
to
23:30
you
23:31
and
23:31
who's
23:32
from
23:32
Tidewater.
23:33
And
23:33
I'm
23:33
curious,
23:34
how
23:35
is
23:35
Chad
23:36
helping
23:36
you
23:36
use
23:37
your
23:37
website
23:38
to
23:38
promote
23:38
your
23:38
books?
23:40
Basically,
23:41
he
23:41
puts
23:42
stuff
23:42
on
23:42
it
23:42
that
23:42
he
23:43
thinks
23:43
will
23:43
help
23:44
and
23:44
he
23:44
helps
23:45
me
23:45
with
23:46
getting
23:46
out
23:46
emails
23:47
to
23:47
my
23:47
email
23:48
list
23:48
on
23:49
mailchimp.
23:50
It's
23:50
attached
23:51
to
23:51
the
23:51
website,
23:52
so
23:52
we
23:53
get
23:53
out
23:53
some.
23:53
Some
23:54
emails
23:54
from
23:54
time
23:54
to
23:55
encourage
23:55
people.
23:56
I
23:57
noticed
23:57
on
23:57
your
23:58
website
23:58
you
23:58
have
23:59
book
23:59
reading
24:00
visit.
24:00
So
24:00
I'd
24:01
like
24:01
to
24:01
talk
24:01
to
24:01
you
24:01
about
24:02
your
24:02
book
24:02
reading
24:03
visit
24:03
strategy.
24:04
And
24:04
I'd
24:05
also
24:05
like
24:05
to
24:05
talk
24:05
about
24:06
your
24:06
hand
24:06
puppet,
24:07
Fred
24:07
the
24:07
Snake.
24:08
Did
24:08
you
24:08
have
24:09
Fred
24:10
the
24:10
Snake
24:10
hand
24:11
puppet
24:11
from
24:11
the
24:12
beginning
24:12
when
24:13
you
24:13
did
24:13
book
24:14
readings,
24:14
or
24:14
did
24:15
it
24:16
develop
24:16
down
24:17
the
24:17
road?
24:17
Has
24:18
it
24:18
made
24:18
an
24:19
impact
24:19
on
24:20
your
24:20
book
24:20
reading?
24:22
I
24:22
think
24:22
the
24:22
kids
24:22
like
24:23
it.
24:23
I
24:23
read
24:23
at
24:24
local
24:24
schools
24:25
and
24:25
libraries
24:26
and
24:26
they're
24:26
all
24:26
amused
24:27
and
24:27
they
24:27
want
24:28
to
24:28
have
24:28
a
24:28
go
24:28
with
24:28
it.
24:28
I've
24:29
also
24:29
got
24:29
some
24:29
electric
24:30
snakes,
24:31
which
24:31
caused
24:32
chaos.
24:32
When
24:33
I
24:33
go
24:33
to
24:33
schools,
24:34
the
24:34
teachers
24:35
are
24:35
very
24:35
upset
24:35
about
24:36
me
24:36
bringing
24:36
electric
24:37
snakes.
24:38
The
24:39
kids
24:39
all
24:39
want
24:39
to
24:40
steer
24:40
these
24:40
snakes
24:40
around
24:41
the
24:41
room.
24:42
That's
24:42
terrific.
24:44
I
24:44
have
24:44
to
24:44
say,
24:45
I
24:45
enormously
24:45
enjoyed
24:47
the
24:47
school
24:47
visits.
24:48
They're
24:48
not
24:48
very
24:49
productive
24:49
in
24:49
schools,
24:51
but
24:51
it's
24:52
a
24:52
lot
24:52
of
24:52
fun.
24:53
Absolutely.
24:54
And
24:54
so
24:55
do
24:55
you
24:55
voice
24:55
the
24:56
different
24:56
characters
24:57
or
24:57
do
24:57
you
24:57
just
24:58
voice
24:58
Fred?
24:59
Oh,
25:00
that's
25:00
a
25:00
good
25:00
question.
25:00
No,
25:01
just
25:01
Fred.
25:02
When
25:02
I
25:02
read.
25:02
That's
25:03
an
25:03
interesting
25:03
idea.
25:04
When
25:04
I
25:04
read
25:05
the
25:05
books
25:06
and
25:06
show
25:06
the
25:07
images
25:07
up
25:07
on
25:07
the
25:07
screen,
25:09
I
25:09
just
25:09
use
25:09
my
25:10
normal
25:10
voice.
25:11
But
25:11
I
25:11
guess
25:12
I
25:12
could.
25:13
Huh.
25:14
That's
25:14
interesting.
25:15
Maybe
25:15
I
25:15
should.
25:16
I
25:16
know.
25:17
I'm
25:17
just
25:18
curious.
25:19
I
25:19
know
25:20
you
25:20
don't
25:20
have
25:20
an
25:20
accent,
25:21
but
25:22
what.
25:24
What
25:24
is
25:24
it
25:25
the
25:25
children
25:25
say
25:26
about
25:26
where
25:27
Fred
25:27
is
25:27
originally
25:28
from?
25:29
Do
25:29
they
25:29
make
25:29
any
25:30
comments?
25:31
They
25:32
do
25:32
ask.
25:32
And
25:33
it's
25:33
actually,
25:33
as
25:34
you
25:34
know,
25:34
from
25:34
the
25:34
first
25:35
book,
25:35
he
25:35
came
25:36
from
25:36
the
25:36
jungle
25:37
Jungle
25:37
Jim
25:38
sent
25:38
him
25:38
as
25:39
a
25:39
gift.
25:39
And
25:40
to
25:40
say,
25:41
it's
25:41
not
25:41
much
25:42
of
25:42
a
25:42
jungle
25:42
in
25:43
England.
25:44
No,
25:46
I
25:46
think
25:47
must
25:47
have
25:47
come
25:47
from
25:48
Africa
25:48
somewhere.
25:50
If
25:50
you
25:50
read
25:51
on
25:51
to
25:51
the
25:51
third
25:52
book,
25:52
Fred
25:53
got
25:53
a
25:54
bit
25:54
lonely
25:54
and
25:55
so
25:55
he
25:55
sent
25:55
A
25:56
message
25:56
to
25:56
Jim
25:56
and
25:57
said,
25:57
please
25:58
send
25:58
some
25:59
more
25:59
animals.
25:59
So
26:00
Jungle
26:00
Jim
26:00
came
26:01
over
26:02
with
26:02
a
26:02
bunch
26:02
of
26:03
different
26:03
animals
26:04
to
26:05
join
26:05
the
26:05
boy.
26:06
And
26:06
then
26:06
in
26:07
the
26:07
later
26:07
books,
26:07
I
26:08
include
26:08
a
26:08
couple
26:08
of
26:09
my
26:09
grandchildren,
26:10
Purdy
26:10
and
26:11
Jack.
26:13
In
26:13
the
26:13
latest
26:14
book,
26:15
they're
26:15
the
26:15
ones
26:16
that
26:16
actually
26:17
discovered
26:18
about
26:18
the
26:19
Chinese
26:20
zodiac
26:20
from
26:21
two
26:21
Chinese
26:21
kids
26:22
at
26:22
school.
26:23
Two
26:23
Chinese
26:24
kids,
26:24
Connor
26:24
and
26:24
Ellie,
26:25
who
26:25
are
26:25
actually
26:25
the
26:26
children
26:27
of
26:27
a
26:27
gastroenterology
26:28
colleague
26:29
of
26:29
mine.
26:29
So
26:30
they
26:31
joined.
26:32
Did
26:32
you
26:32
say
26:32
your
26:32
grandchildren
26:33
or
26:33
great
26:33
grandchildren?
26:35
These
26:35
are
26:35
two
26:35
grandchildren.
26:36
Okay.
26:37
And
26:37
did
26:37
they
26:37
actually
26:38
say,
26:38
we'd
26:38
love
26:39
to
26:39
be
26:39
characters
26:40
in
26:40
a
26:40
children's
26:41
book?
26:42
No,
26:42
I
26:42
think
26:42
I
26:43
just
26:43
threw
26:43
them
26:43
in,
26:43
actually.
26:44
But
26:44
they
26:44
seem
26:44
to
26:45
be
26:45
very
26:45
pleased.
26:46
I
26:46
haven't
26:46
put
26:47
the
26:47
great
26:47
grandchildren
26:48
in
26:48
yet,
26:48
but
26:48
it
26:48
depends
26:49
if
26:49
I
26:49
make
26:50
any
26:50
more
26:50
books.
26:50
Maybe
26:51
I'll
26:51
get
26:51
that
26:51
right
26:51
down
26:52
there.
26:52
Yeah.
26:53
The
26:53
only
26:53
reason
26:53
I
26:54
talk
26:54
is
26:54
that
26:54
that's
26:55
what
26:55
I
26:55
love
26:55
about
26:56
yourself
26:56
and
26:56
myself.
26:57
I
26:57
have
26:58
five
26:58
grandchildren,
26:59
and
27:00
they're
27:00
all
27:00
co
27:01
authors
27:01
of.
27:02
We've
27:02
written
27:02
38
27:04
stories.
27:04
We've
27:05
only
27:05
published
27:06
two
27:06
books,
27:07
but
27:07
someday,
27:08
if
27:08
I
27:08
hit
27:08
the
27:08
Super
27:09
Max
27:09
lotto
27:10
or
27:10
something,
27:10
I'll
27:10
publish
27:11
them
27:11
all.
27:12
And
27:12
of
27:13
course,
27:13
they've
27:13
helped
27:14
be
27:14
co
27:14
authors
27:15
in
27:15
all
27:16
of
27:16
the
27:16
books,
27:16
so
27:16
it's
27:17
fun.
27:17
And
27:18
we've
27:18
actually
27:19
had
27:19
them
27:19
narrate
27:20
about
27:20
half
27:20
of
27:20
the
27:21
books,
27:21
so
27:22
I've
27:22
captured
27:22
their
27:22
young
27:23
voices
27:24
as
27:24
narrators
27:25
for
27:25
the
27:25
story.
27:26
That's
27:26
a
27:26
great
27:27
idea.
27:27
I
27:27
need
27:28
to
27:28
do
27:28
that.
27:28
How
27:29
old
27:29
is
27:29
Kira?
27:30
Oh,
27:31
you
27:31
know
27:31
what?
27:31
Kira's
27:32
now
27:32
22.
27:34
Okay.
27:34
Yeah.
27:35
So
27:35
her.
27:35
And
27:36
her
27:36
and
27:36
I
27:36
started
27:36
our
27:37
whole
27:37
adventure
27:38
in
27:38
the
27:38
Rocky
27:38
Mountains
27:39
when
27:39
she
27:39
was
27:41
5.
27:42
And
27:42
I
27:43
had
27:43
a
27:43
career
27:44
that
27:44
allowed
27:44
me
27:45
to
27:46
have
27:46
a
27:46
little
27:46
more
27:47
time.
27:47
I
27:47
had
27:48
good
27:48
vacation
27:49
time.
27:49
So
27:49
a
27:49
lot
27:49
of
27:50
times
27:50
her
27:50
and
27:50
I
27:51
would
27:51
go
27:51
to
27:51
the
27:51
Rocky
27:52
Mountains,
27:52
and
27:52
I
27:52
taught
27:53
her
27:53
how
27:53
to
27:53
ski
27:53
and
27:54
horseback
27:55
ride
27:55
and
27:56
hiking
27:56
and
27:56
all
27:57
that,
27:57
and
27:57
it
27:57
turned
27:58
into
27:58
so
27:58
many
27:58
adventures.
27:59
It
28:00
was
28:00
her
28:00
insistence
28:01
when
28:01
she
28:01
was
28:01
about
28:02
7
28:02
or
28:02
8
28:03
that
28:03
we
28:03
start
28:04
writing
28:04
a
28:05
children's
28:05
book.
28:06
And
28:06
then
28:07
from
28:07
all
28:08
those
28:08
adventures
28:09
that
28:09
came
28:09
along,
28:10
her
28:10
cousins
28:11
and
28:11
her
28:11
sister,
28:12
and
28:12
it
28:12
just
28:13
kept
28:13
mushrooming
28:14
itself
28:14
and
28:14
manifesting
28:15
itself
28:17
a
28:17
children's
28:18
book
28:18
series.
28:18
So
28:19
definitely
28:19
a
28:19
lot
28:19
of
28:19
fun.
28:20
It's
28:20
nice
28:21
when
28:21
you
28:21
have
28:21
that
28:22
special
28:22
connection
28:23
with
28:23
your
28:23
grandchildren
28:24
and
28:24
you
28:25
get
28:25
them
28:25
involved.
28:26
It's
28:26
a
28:27
legacy
28:27
that
28:28
will
28:28
never
28:28
go
28:29
away.
28:30
Correct.
28:31
I
28:31
agree.
28:32
So
28:32
I
28:32
want
28:33
to
28:33
talk
28:33
a
28:33
little
28:33
bit
28:33
about
28:34
character
28:34
development.
28:35
We
28:35
talked
28:36
about
28:36
Fred
28:37
the
28:37
Snake.
28:37
And
28:38
in
28:38
your
28:38
latest
28:39
book,
28:39
you
28:39
introduced
28:40
two
28:40
of
28:41
your
28:41
grandchildren,
28:42
and
28:42
they.
28:43
Now
28:44
the
28:44
two
28:44
grandchildren.
28:45
Are
28:45
there
28:46
really
28:46
two
28:46
friends?
28:47
Chinese
28:48
friends?
28:48
No,
28:48
I
28:49
made
28:49
that
28:49
up.
28:49
Those.
28:50
Those
28:50
As
28:51
I
28:51
said,
28:51
are
28:51
the
28:51
kids
28:52
of
28:53
a
28:53
doctor
28:54
colleague
28:54
of
28:54
mine
28:55
that
28:56
was
28:56
encouraging
28:57
me
28:58
to
28:58
write
28:58
the
28:58
book.
28:59
He
28:59
didn't
28:59
say,
29:00
write
29:00
the
29:01
book
29:01
and
29:01
put
29:01
my
29:01
kids
29:01
in
29:02
it.
29:02
Okay.
29:03
I
29:03
said,
29:03
I
29:04
need
29:04
some
29:04
kids.
29:04
And
29:04
he
29:05
said,
29:05
use
29:06
mine.
29:06
Oh,
29:07
God.
29:07
Okay,
29:08
so
29:09
they.
29:10
So
29:10
you've
29:10
got
29:10
four
29:11
characters
29:11
based
29:12
on
29:12
four
29:12
real
29:12
people.
29:13
Absolutely,
29:14
yes.
29:15
Terrific.
29:16
Terrific.
29:16
It's
29:17
always
29:17
fun
29:17
to
29:18
do
29:18
that.
29:18
And
29:19
we
29:20
talked
29:20
about
29:20
the
29:20
theme
29:21
of
29:21
your
29:22
book.
29:23
Share
29:24
a
29:24
little
29:24
bit
29:24
more.
29:25
Did
29:25
you
29:25
know
29:26
much
29:26
about
29:27
the
29:27
Chinese
29:27
zodiac
29:28
and
29:28
the
29:29
Great
29:29
Race?
29:30
Because
29:30
I'll
29:31
tell
29:31
you,
29:31
until
29:32
I
29:32
read
29:32
your
29:32
book
29:33
and
29:34
started
29:34
doing
29:34
a
29:34
little
29:34
research,
29:35
I
29:35
thought,
29:35
oh.
29:36
Because
29:36
I
29:37
didn't
29:37
understand
29:37
what
29:37
the
29:38
Great
29:38
Race
29:38
was.
29:39
And
29:39
I
29:39
thought,
29:39
I've
29:40
got
29:40
a
29:40
really.
29:41
I
29:41
read
29:41
your
29:41
book
29:42
and
29:42
I
29:42
thought,
29:42
I
29:42
gotta
29:43
dig
29:43
a
29:43
little
29:44
deeper.
29:44
And
29:44
that's
29:45
how
29:45
I
29:45
found
29:45
out
29:45
my
29:45
wife
29:46
and
29:46
I
29:46
are
29:46
water
29:47
snakes.
29:48
That's
29:48
nice.
29:49
Yeah.
29:49
I
29:49
didn't
29:50
actually
29:50
know
29:51
much
29:51
about
29:51
it.
29:52
I
29:52
certainly
29:52
didn't
29:53
know
29:54
a
29:54
lot
29:54
about
29:54
it.
29:54
And
29:55
I
29:55
said
29:55
I
29:55
hadn't
29:56
heard
29:56
about
29:56
the
29:56
Great
29:56
Race.
29:57
I
29:57
knew
29:57
a
29:57
certain
29:57
amount
29:58
about
29:58
the
29:58
Chinese
29:58
calendar,
29:59
and
30:00
I've
30:00
always
30:00
enjoyed
30:01
the
30:01
Chinese
30:01
New
30:02
Year.
30:02
I'm
30:02
very
30:03
fond
30:03
of
30:04
Chinese
30:04
food,
30:05
so
30:05
that's
30:05
a
30:05
good
30:05
time
30:07
to
30:07
be
30:07
enjoying
30:07
it.
30:08
And
30:08
as
30:09
I
30:09
mentioned,
30:09
I've
30:10
been
30:10
in
30:10
China
30:10
a
30:11
lot,
30:11
lecturing
30:13
in
30:13
my
30:13
previous
30:14
life,
30:15
so
30:16
I
30:16
should
30:16
have
30:16
known
30:16
more
30:17
about
30:17
it
30:17
than
30:17
I
30:17
did.
30:17
To
30:18
be
30:18
brutally
30:18
honest,
30:18
I'm
30:19
a
30:19
bit
30:19
embarrassed
30:19
about
30:20
it.
30:20
But
30:20
now
30:20
I
30:20
know
30:21
a
30:21
lot
30:21
about
30:21
it.
30:22
It
30:22
goes
30:23
deeper
30:23
and
30:23
deeper,
30:23
as
30:24
if
30:24
you
30:24
go
30:24
get
30:25
into
30:25
a
30:25
lot
30:26
of
30:26
the
30:26
details,
30:27
it
30:27
gets
30:28
very
30:28
complicated.
30:29
Absolutely.
30:30
I
30:30
have
30:30
to
30:30
tell
30:31
you,
30:31
like,
30:31
a
30:31
sidebar
30:32
here,
30:32
but.
30:33
Oh,
30:33
probably
30:34
about
30:34
25
30:35
years
30:36
ago,
30:37
we
30:37
must
30:37
have
30:37
ordered
30:38
Chinese
30:38
food
30:39
just
30:39
before
30:40
Christmas.
30:40
And
30:41
one
30:41
of
30:41
the
30:42
giveaways
30:42
is,
30:42
they
30:43
gave
30:43
you
30:43
a
30:43
Chinese
30:44
calendar
30:45
in
30:45
a
30:45
box.
30:46
Oh,
30:46
okay.
30:47
So
30:47
what
30:47
happened
30:48
was
30:48
my
30:48
mother
30:49
had
30:49
this
30:49
bright
30:50
idea
30:51
of
30:51
actually
30:51
wrapping
30:52
it
30:52
as
30:52
a
30:53
gift
30:53
and
30:53
putting
30:53
it
30:54
under
30:54
the
30:54
Christmas
30:55
tree.
30:56
And
30:56
I
30:56
forget
30:57
which
30:57
one
30:57
of
30:58
us
30:58
she
30:58
gave
30:58
it
30:58
to
30:59
as
30:59
a
30:59
gift,
31:00
but
31:00
when
31:00
we
31:00
opened
31:01
it,
31:01
we
31:01
thought,
31:02
what
31:02
the
31:02
heck
31:03
is
31:03
that?
31:04
Anyways,
31:06
year
31:06
after
31:06
year,
31:07
for
31:07
20
31:08
years,
31:09
this
31:09
Chinese
31:10
calendar,
31:11
whoever
31:11
got
31:11
it
31:12
rewrapped
31:13
it
31:13
and
31:13
the
31:14
next
31:14
year
31:14
gave
31:14
it
31:14
as
31:15
a
31:15
gift.
31:16
And
31:17
about
31:17
three
31:18
or
31:18
four
31:18
years
31:18
ago,
31:19
my
31:19
wife
31:19
and
31:19
I
31:19
had
31:20
it,
31:20
but
31:20
we
31:21
didn't
31:21
wrap
31:21
it.
31:22
And
31:22
my
31:23
children
31:24
started
31:24
thinking,
31:25
where
31:26
is
31:26
that
31:26
Chinese
31:27
calendar?
31:28
So
31:29
my
31:29
son
31:29
said,
31:31
what
31:31
happened?
31:32
And
31:32
they
31:32
thought,
31:32
we
31:33
lost
31:33
it.
31:33
We
31:34
didn't.
31:34
This
31:34
year,
31:35
my
31:35
wife
31:36
wrapped
31:37
it
31:37
and
31:38
put
31:38
it
31:38
under
31:38
the
31:38
Christmas
31:39
tree
31:39
for
31:39
my
31:40
son.
31:40
And
31:41
we've
31:41
got
31:41
a
31:41
couple
31:41
of
31:42
pictures
31:42
that
31:42
are
31:42
Just
31:43
magnificent
31:44
of
31:44
him
31:44
opening
31:45
this
31:46
and
31:46
finding
31:46
the
31:47
Chinese
31:47
calendar.
31:48
So
31:48
I'm
31:48
sure
31:48
it's
31:49
going
31:49
to
31:49
resurrect
31:50
itself
31:51
and
31:51
be
31:51
part
31:51
of
31:52
our
31:52
family
31:53
history
31:53
for
31:54
years
31:54
to
31:54
come
31:54
again.
31:55
Yeah,
31:56
those
31:56
sort
31:56
of
31:56
little
31:56
traditions
31:57
are
31:57
very
31:57
valuable.
31:58
It
31:59
is.
31:59
It
31:59
is
32:00
the
32:00
central
32:01
teaching
32:01
from
32:01
the
32:02
book.
32:02
What
32:02
is
32:02
it
32:02
that
32:03
you
32:03
want
32:03
people
32:03
to
32:04
know
32:04
about
32:05
the
32:05
central
32:05
teaching
32:06
from
32:06
your
32:07
latest
32:07
book
32:08
to
32:09
be
32:09
helpful?
32:09
I
32:10
think
32:10
Fred
32:10
is
32:11
always
32:11
helpful.
32:11
When
32:12
he
32:12
went
32:12
to
32:12
school
32:12
in
32:13
the
32:13
second
32:13
book,
32:13
the
32:14
kids
32:14
were
32:14
a
32:14
little
32:14
bit
32:14
nervous
32:15
about
32:15
having
32:16
a
32:16
snake
32:16
at
32:16
school,
32:17
let
32:17
alone
32:17
the
32:17
teacher.
32:18
But
32:18
he
32:19
turned
32:20
himself
32:20
into
32:20
things
32:21
that
32:21
they
32:21
needed,
32:21
like
32:22
a
32:22
soccer
32:22
goal
32:23
and
32:23
a
32:23
jump
32:23
rope
32:24
and
32:24
a
32:24
water
32:24
slide
32:25
and
32:25
things
32:25
like
32:25
that.
32:26
So
32:26
he
32:26
became
32:27
very
32:27
popular
32:27
and
32:28
helpful.
32:29
And
32:29
helpful
32:30
in
32:30
the
32:30
sense
32:30
of
32:31
telling
32:32
people
32:33
things
32:33
that
32:33
they
32:34
should
32:34
or
32:34
should
32:34
not
32:34
do.
32:35
When
32:35
he
32:35
went
32:36
camping,
32:37
he
32:37
learned
32:38
actually
32:39
from
32:39
Jungle
32:39
Jim
32:40
that
32:40
he
32:40
shouldn't
32:40
be
32:41
eating
32:41
nice
32:42
looking
32:42
berries
32:43
or
32:43
mushrooms
32:43
and
32:43
things
32:44
at
32:44
the
32:44
side
32:44
of
32:44
the
32:45
road.
32:45
And
32:46
then
32:46
they
32:46
got
32:46
into
32:47
a.
32:47
Was
32:48
it
32:48
whitewater
32:48
rafting
32:49
and
32:49
they
32:49
went
32:50
over
32:50
a
32:50
waterfall
32:50
and
32:51
had
32:51
to
32:51
be
32:51
mended,
32:51
had
32:52
to
32:52
be
32:52
rescued.
32:53
So
32:53
there's
32:54
some
32:54
messages
32:54
in
32:54
there.
32:55
When
32:55
they
32:56
went
32:56
to
32:56
the
32:56
beach.
32:57
Fred's
32:57
girlfriend
32:58
Bernadette,
33:00
they're
33:00
now
33:00
married.
33:00
They
33:00
got
33:01
married
33:01
in
33:01
Las
33:01
Vegas.
33:02
In
33:02
the
33:02
seventh
33:03
book,
33:03
Bernadette
33:04
got
33:04
carried
33:05
away
33:05
on
33:05
a
33:06
wave
33:06
when
33:06
she
33:06
went
33:06
to
33:07
the
33:07
beach
33:07
and
33:07
had
33:07
to
33:08
be
33:08
rescued.
33:08
So
33:08
that
33:09
was
33:09
a
33:10
message
33:10
about
33:10
being
33:11
careful
33:11
when
33:12
you
33:12
swim
33:12
in
33:12
the
33:13
ocean
33:14
and
33:14
little
33:15
things
33:15
like
33:15
that,
33:15
trying
33:16
to
33:17
sneak
33:17
them
33:17
in
33:17
when
33:18
people
33:18
are
33:18
not
33:18
looking.
33:19
Fantastic.
33:21
So
33:21
I'm
33:22
curious,
33:22
because
33:23
you've
33:23
written
33:23
your
33:24
10th
33:24
book,
33:25
can
33:25
you
33:25
share
33:26
some
33:26
insight
33:27
into
33:28
your
33:28
development
33:29
of
33:29
each
33:30
book
33:30
and
33:30
your
33:31
writing
33:31
process?
33:33
Good
33:33
question.
33:34
I
33:34
sit
33:35
down
33:35
in
33:35
a
33:35
little
33:36
quiet
33:36
study
33:37
where
33:37
I
33:37
don't
33:37
go
33:38
and
33:39
choose
33:39
a
33:40
topic
33:40
like,
33:41
as
33:41
I
33:41
said,
33:41
going
33:41
to
33:42
the
33:42
beach
33:42
or
33:42
going
33:43
camping
33:44
or
33:44
going
33:44
exploring.
33:46
And
33:46
then
33:46
I
33:47
set
33:47
off.
33:47
All
33:48
my
33:48
books
33:48
are
33:48
in
33:49
rhyme
33:50
and
33:50
what
33:50
I
33:51
say
33:51
is
33:51
sometimes
33:52
a
33:52
little
33:52
bit
33:52
determined
33:53
by
33:53
what
33:53
rhymes.
33:55
But
33:55
I
33:55
try
33:56
and
33:56
visualize
33:57
what
33:58
I'm
33:58
going
33:58
to
33:58
ask
33:58
Bonnie
33:59
to
33:59
illustrate
34:00
what's
34:01
going
34:01
to
34:01
look
34:01
good
34:02
while
34:02
I'm
34:03
doing
34:03
that.
34:04
And
34:04
then
34:04
I
34:05
get
34:05
a
34:05
sort
34:05
of
34:05
rough
34:06
draft
34:06
and
34:06
I
34:06
usually
34:07
share
34:07
that
34:07
with
34:07
the
34:08
kids
34:08
and
34:08
my
34:08
daughter,
34:09
who
34:09
actually
34:10
used
34:10
to
34:11
work
34:11
in
34:11
the
34:11
BBC
34:12
and
34:13
is
34:13
a
34:13
good
34:13
editor,
34:14
she's
34:14
good
34:14
at
34:15
making
34:15
suggestions
34:16
of
34:16
how
34:17
to
34:17
improve
34:17
the
34:17
books.
34:19
And
34:19
then
34:20
basically
34:20
then
34:20
I
34:20
throw
34:20
it
34:21
at
34:21
Bonnie
34:21
to
34:21
see
34:21
what
34:21
she
34:22
makes
34:22
of
34:22
it.
34:22
Terrific.
34:24
When
34:24
you
34:24
think
34:25
back
34:25
on
34:25
your
34:26
first
34:26
nine
34:26
books,
34:27
and
34:28
of
34:28
course
34:28
I
34:28
haven't
34:29
read
34:29
them
34:29
all.
34:29
I've
34:29
read
34:29
your
34:29
first
34:30
book,
34:30
I've
34:30
read
34:30
your
34:30
10th
34:31
book.
34:31
But
34:31
I'm
34:32
curious,
34:33
when
34:33
it
34:33
came
34:34
to
34:34
this
34:34
book,
34:34
obviously
34:35
you
34:35
had
34:35
to
34:36
do
34:36
some
34:36
research.
34:37
Did
34:37
you
34:37
do
34:37
research
34:38
into
34:38
your
34:39
other
34:39
nine
34:39
books
34:40
or
34:40
was
34:40
that
34:40
drawn
34:41
from
34:41
your
34:41
personal
34:42
experience?
34:43
It
34:43
really
34:43
didn't
34:44
need
34:44
to
34:44
be
34:44
much
34:45
research,
34:46
I
34:46
guess.
34:46
The
34:47
7,
34:47
8
34:47
and
34:47
9
34:48
have
34:48
Fred
34:48
and
34:49
his
34:49
friends
34:49
exploring
34:50
the
34:50
United
34:50
States,
34:51
leaving
34:51
from
34:51
Charleston,
34:52
going
34:53
up
34:53
the
34:53
east
34:53
coast
34:54
and
34:54
then
34:54
in
34:55
the
34:55
center,
34:55
then
34:55
on
34:56
the
34:56
west
34:56
coast,
34:56
ending
34:56
up
34:57
in
34:57
Hawaii.
34:57
I
34:57
picked
34:58
out
34:59
the
34:59
famous
35:00
places
35:00
that
35:00
I
35:00
thought
35:01
they'd
35:01
like
35:01
to
35:01
visit,
35:02
but
35:03
I
35:03
did
35:03
do
35:03
a
35:03
little
35:03
bit
35:03
of
35:04
research
35:04
about
35:04
some
35:05
of
35:05
them.
35:05
Did
35:05
you
35:05
go
35:06
to
35:06
all
35:06
those
35:06
places?
35:08
I
35:08
did
35:08
not,
35:08
but
35:09
Fred
35:09
did.
35:10
Okay,
35:11
no.
35:11
I
35:11
guess
35:11
I
35:11
have
35:12
been
35:12
to
35:12
most
35:12
of
35:12
them,
35:13
but
35:13
I
35:13
needed
35:13
to
35:13
know
35:14
a
35:14
little
35:14
bit
35:15
about
35:16
Mount
35:16
Rushmore.
35:17
I
35:17
wanted
35:17
to
35:17
make
35:17
sure
35:18
I
35:18
knew
35:18
exactly
35:19
which
35:19
presidents
35:20
were
35:20
at
35:20
Mount
35:20
Rushmore
35:21
and
35:21
what
35:21
Crazy
35:21
Horse
35:22
was,
35:23
what
35:23
a
35:24
wedding
35:25
venue
35:26
in
35:26
Las
35:26
Vegas
35:27
looks
35:27
like,
35:28
important
35:29
things
35:29
like
35:29
that.
35:32
I'm
35:33
curious
35:33
about
35:34
success,
35:35
so
35:36
I'm
35:36
going
35:36
to
35:36
take
35:37
you
35:37
on
35:37
a
35:37
little
35:37
bit
35:37
of
35:37
an
35:38
adventure,
35:38
a
35:38
little
35:39
bit
35:39
of
35:39
a
35:39
journey.
35:39
Think
35:40
back
35:40
to
35:41
when
35:41
you
35:41
wrote
35:41
your
35:42
first
35:42
book
35:42
and
35:43
how
35:43
did
35:43
you
35:44
envision
35:44
success
35:45
and
35:45
what
35:46
success
35:46
looked
35:47
like
35:47
to
35:47
you
35:47
now
35:48
that
35:48
you're
35:48
now
35:48
published
35:49
your
35:49
10th
35:50
book?
35:50
So
35:51
what's
35:51
the
35:51
big
35:51
difference?
35:52
And
35:53
take
35:53
us
35:53
on
35:53
that
35:54
adventure.
35:55
I
35:55
don't
35:55
think
35:56
I
35:56
was
35:56
looking
35:56
for
35:57
success.
35:57
I
35:57
was
35:58
just
35:58
looking
35:58
to
35:58
have
35:59
some
35:59
fun
36:00
and
36:01
to
36:01
amuse
36:01
the
36:02
grandchildren
36:02
and
36:03
then
36:03
anybody
36:04
else
36:04
who
36:04
is
36:05
around.
36:05
And
36:05
then
36:05
I
36:05
found
36:06
it
36:06
was
36:06
fun.
36:07
After
36:07
I
36:07
retired
36:08
for
36:08
a
36:08
very
36:08
busy
36:09
life
36:09
in
36:09
medicine,
36:10
as
36:11
I
36:11
mentioned,
36:11
my
36:11
wife
36:11
told
36:12
me
36:12
I
36:12
needed
36:12
something
36:12
else
36:13
to
36:13
do
36:13
and
36:13
I
36:14
can't
36:14
play
36:14
golf
36:15
every
36:15
day,
36:15
even
36:16
in
36:16
South
36:16
Carolina,
36:17
where
36:17
the
36:17
weather's
36:17
usually
36:18
pretty
36:18
good.
36:19
I'm
36:19
not
36:19
a
36:19
good
36:19
person
36:20
to
36:20
sit
36:20
around
36:20
and
36:21
do
36:21
nothing.
36:23
So
36:24
that
36:25
turned
36:25
out
36:25
to
36:25
be
36:25
something
36:26
that
36:26
I
36:26
really
36:27
enjoyed
36:28
doing
36:28
and
36:28
I
36:28
thought
36:29
I
36:29
was
36:29
pretty
36:29
good
36:30
at
36:30
it,
36:30
to
36:30
be
36:30
honest.
36:30
And
36:31
it's
36:31
nice
36:31
that
36:31
you
36:31
got
36:32
involved
36:32
with
36:32
your
36:32
grandchildren
36:33
also.
36:34
Yeah.
36:34
Because
36:35
it's
36:35
interesting.
36:36
Somebody
36:36
told
36:36
me
36:37
the
36:37
secret
36:37
to
36:37
a
36:38
long
36:38
and
36:38
healthy
36:38
life
36:39
and
36:39
I
36:39
said,
36:40
what's
36:41
that
36:41
secret?
36:42
And
36:42
they
36:42
said,
36:42
get
36:43
younger
36:43
friends.
36:45
When
36:45
you
36:45
think
36:45
about
36:46
your
36:46
grandchildren,
36:47
I
36:47
can't
36:47
think
36:47
of.
36:48
And
36:48
now
36:48
you've
36:48
got
36:49
great
36:49
grandchildren.
36:50
Staying
36:50
engaged
36:50
with
36:51
them
36:51
definitely
36:51
will
36:52
help
36:52
keep
36:52
your
36:53
you
36:53
younger.
36:54
The
36:55
role
36:55
of
36:55
writing
36:56
for
36:56
you.
36:57
You
36:57
talked
36:57
about
36:57
having
36:58
a
36:58
great
36:58
long
36:59
career.
37:00
But
37:00
talk
37:00
to
37:00
us
37:01
now
37:01
about
37:01
what's
37:02
the
37:02
role
37:02
of
37:02
writing
37:03
doing
37:04
for
37:04
you
37:04
now.
37:05
And
37:05
currently,
37:07
basically,
37:07
it's,
37:08
as
37:08
I
37:08
said,
37:08
it's
37:08
keeping
37:09
me
37:09
busy
37:10
on
37:10
the
37:10
mood,
37:11
like
37:11
to
37:12
sit
37:12
down
37:12
and
37:13
watch
37:14
movies
37:14
on
37:14
the
37:14
TV
37:15
or
37:15
I'M
37:16
actually
37:16
not
37:16
a
37:16
very
37:16
good
37:17
person
37:17
at
37:17
reading
37:17
books
37:18
either,
37:18
to
37:18
be
37:18
honest.
37:19
So
37:20
it's
37:21
keeping
37:21
me
37:21
amused
37:22
and
37:23
out
37:23
of
37:23
the
37:23
kitchen
37:24
most
37:24
of
37:24
the
37:24
time.
37:25
Although
37:25
actually
37:25
I
37:26
can
37:26
do
37:26
a
37:26
pretty
37:26
decent
37:27
job
37:27
in
37:27
the
37:27
kitchen
37:28
if
37:28
required.
37:29
So
37:30
it's
37:30
become
37:30
an
37:30
important
37:31
part
37:31
of
37:31
my
37:31
life.
37:31
There's
37:32
your
37:32
next
37:32
book,
37:33
Fred
37:33
in
37:33
the
37:34
Kitchen,
37:35
because
37:35
you
37:36
said
37:36
he's
37:36
married
37:36
now,
37:37
right?
37:37
Yes,
37:37
indeed.
37:38
A
37:38
problem
37:39
about
37:39
snakes
37:40
is
37:40
they
37:40
don't
37:40
have
37:40
any
37:41
arms,
37:41
so
37:41
he
37:42
has
37:42
to
37:42
do
37:43
everything
37:43
with
37:43
his
37:43
tail.
37:43
He
37:44
learned
37:44
his
37:44
Alphabet
37:45
when
37:45
he
37:45
went
37:45
to
37:45
school
37:45
while
37:46
writing
37:47
with
37:47
his
37:47
tail.
37:48
And
37:48
he's
37:49
done
37:49
some
37:49
other
37:49
clever
37:50
things,
37:50
like
37:51
when
37:51
Jungle
37:51
Jim
37:52
got
37:52
actually
37:52
locked
37:53
in
37:54
on
37:54
Alcatraz
37:55
and
37:55
the
37:55
keeper
37:56
threw
37:56
the
37:56
key
37:56
away
37:57
because
37:57
Jim
37:58
had
37:58
been
37:58
rather
37:58
naughty.
37:59
So
37:59
Fred
38:00
actually
38:00
had
38:00
to
38:00
pick
38:01
the
38:01
lock
38:02
with
38:02
his
38:02
tail.
38:03
Was
38:03
pretty,
38:03
pretty
38:04
clever
38:05
and
38:05
very
38:05
useful.
38:06
I
38:07
love
38:07
it.
38:08
I
38:08
was
38:08
looking
38:08
at
38:09
2018
38:09
with
38:10
your
38:10
first
38:10
book,
38:10
and
38:11
like
38:11
you
38:11
said,
38:11
you
38:12
had
38:12
maybe
38:12
published
38:13
it
38:13
in
38:13
2010.
38:14
But
38:14
I'm
38:15
curious.
38:15
You've
38:16
written
38:16
quite
38:16
a
38:17
few
38:17
books
38:17
in
38:17
a
38:17
short
38:18
period
38:18
of
38:18
time.
38:19
Some
38:19
people
38:19
might
38:20
say,
38:20
come
38:20
on,
38:20
Rick,
38:20
eight
38:21
years
38:21
is
38:21
almost
38:21
a
38:22
decade,
38:22
but
38:23
that's
38:23
pretty
38:24
darn
38:24
good.
38:25
How
38:25
much
38:25
time
38:26
are
38:26
you
38:26
devoting
38:26
to
38:27
your
38:27
writing?
38:28
Right
38:28
now?
38:29
None,
38:29
because
38:29
I'm
38:30
busy
38:30
promoting
38:31
and
38:31
talking
38:32
to
38:32
nice
38:32
people
38:32
like
38:32
you.
38:33
But
38:33
when
38:34
I
38:34
was
38:34
writing
38:35
about
38:35
one
38:35
book
38:35
a
38:36
year,
38:36
that
38:36
wasn't
38:36
the
38:36
only
38:37
thing
38:37
I
38:37
was
38:37
doing.
38:37
I
38:38
was
38:38
still
38:38
actually,
38:39
although
38:39
I
38:40
stopped
38:40
practicing
38:41
medicine,
38:41
I
38:41
was
38:41
still
38:42
involved
38:43
in
38:43
medical
38:43
research
38:44
and
38:44
teaching,
38:45
still
38:46
lecturing
38:47
around
38:47
the
38:47
country
38:47
and
38:48
actually
38:48
all
38:48
over
38:49
the
38:49
world.
38:49
I
38:49
was
38:50
doing
38:50
a
38:50
bunch
38:50
of
38:50
other
38:51
things.
38:51
And
38:51
did
38:51
you
38:52
mention
38:52
that
38:52
when
38:52
you
38:52
went
38:53
out
38:53
into
38:53
the
38:53
field,
38:54
did
38:54
you
38:54
talk
38:55
about
38:55
your
38:56
also
38:56
being
38:56
a
38:56
children's
38:57
book
38:57
author?
38:58
Yes,
38:59
of
38:59
course.
38:59
Good.
39:00
I
39:01
was
39:01
thinking,
39:02
you
39:02
gotta
39:02
take
39:02
advantage
39:03
of
39:03
this.
39:03
Cause
39:04
people
39:05
love
39:05
it.
39:05
Yesterday
39:06
I
39:06
was
39:06
out
39:06
buying
39:06
a
39:07
couple
39:07
of
39:07
new
39:07
pairs
39:07
of
39:08
running
39:08
shoes,
39:09
and
39:09
the
39:09
guy
39:10
innocently
39:11
said,
39:11
oh,
39:11
what
39:12
are
39:12
you
39:12
doing
39:12
today?
39:13
And
39:13
I
39:13
said,
39:13
I'm
39:14
a
39:14
children's
39:14
book
39:15
author,
39:15
podcaster,
39:16
and
39:16
I
39:16
also
39:16
write
39:17
children's
39:17
books.
39:17
And
39:18
the
39:18
moment
39:18
I
39:19
did
39:19
that,
39:19
that
39:19
opened
39:20
the
39:20
door
39:20
up
39:20
to
39:21
a
39:21
multiple
39:22
of
39:22
questions.
39:23
That's
39:23
good.
39:24
Actually,
39:24
I'm
39:25
going
39:25
back
39:25
to
39:26
Hong
39:27
Kong
39:27
later
39:28
this
39:28
year
39:28
to
39:29
Talk
39:30
at
39:30
the
39:30
40th
39:31
anniversary
39:31
of
39:31
a
39:31
meeting
39:32
that
39:32
I
39:32
started
39:32
there.
39:33
And
39:34
so
39:34
I'm
39:34
certainly
39:35
planning
39:35
to
39:35
have
39:36
a
39:36
book
39:36
signing
39:37
for
39:37
all
39:38
the
39:38
Chinese
39:38
people
39:39
to
39:39
come
39:39
to
39:39
that
39:39
meeting
39:40
and
39:40
have
39:40
been
39:41
to
39:41
Singapore.
39:42
Yeah.
39:43
The
39:43
only
39:43
reason
39:44
I
39:44
ask
39:44
is
39:44
I
39:44
noticed
39:45
over
39:45
the
39:45
last
39:45
little
39:46
while
39:46
we've
39:46
been
39:47
getting
39:47
a
39:48
following
39:48
in
39:48
Singapore,
39:49
and
39:49
I
39:49
thought,
39:50
this
39:50
is
39:50
interesting.
39:53
Anyway,
39:54
I've
39:54
actually
39:54
I've
39:55
given
39:55
lectures
39:56
in
39:56
over
39:56
50
39:57
countries,
39:57
so
39:57
I
39:57
have
39:57
a.
39:58
A
39:58
lot
39:58
of
39:59
contacts
39:59
all
39:59
over
40:00
the
40:00
world.
40:00
Terrific.
40:01
That's
40:01
terrific.
40:02
I'm
40:03
glad
40:03
to
40:03
see
40:03
that
40:03
you're
40:04
promoting
40:04
your
40:04
books
40:05
at
40:05
the
40:05
same
40:05
time.
40:06
And
40:06
again,
40:06
it's
40:07
a
40:07
message
40:07
to
40:07
get
40:07
out
40:08
to
40:09
children's
40:09
book
40:09
authors
40:10
and
40:10
aspiring
40:11
children's
40:11
book
40:11
authors
40:12
is
40:12
that
40:12
once
40:13
you
40:13
have
40:13
this
40:13
product,
40:14
it's
40:15
like
40:15
Peter's
40:15
saying,
40:16
you've
40:17
got
40:17
to
40:17
be
40:17
out
40:17
there
40:17
promoting
40:18
it.
40:18
And
40:19
you
40:19
know
40:19
what?
40:20
Don't
40:20
be
40:20
shy.
40:20
I
40:21
find
40:21
most
40:21
people,
40:22
when
40:22
you
40:22
say
40:22
you're
40:22
a
40:22
children's
40:23
book
40:23
authority,
40:24
they
40:24
find
40:24
it
40:25
extremely
40:25
fascinating
40:27
and
40:27
are
40:28
always
40:28
interested
40:29
in
40:29
what
40:29
your
40:29
book's
40:30
all
40:30
about
40:30
or
40:30
books
40:31
advice.
40:32
Peter,
40:33
for
40:34
aspiring
40:35
authors,
40:36
what
40:36
advice
40:37
would
40:37
you
40:37
give
40:37
to
40:37
someone
40:38
just
40:38
starting
40:38
out?
40:39
Don't
40:40
get
40:40
depressed
40:41
too
40:41
quickly
40:41
or
40:42
disheartened
40:43
if
40:43
you.
40:44
It's
40:44
like
40:44
everything
40:45
in
40:45
life.
40:45
You've
40:46
got
40:46
to
40:46
follow
40:47
your
40:47
passion,
40:48
got
40:48
to
40:49
find
40:49
something
40:49
that
40:49
gets
40:50
you
40:50
really
40:50
enjoy
40:51
and
40:51
stick
40:51
with
40:52
it,
40:52
even
40:52
when
40:52
people
40:53
tell
40:53
you
40:53
that's
40:55
not
40:55
the
40:55
smartest
40:56
thing
40:56
to
40:56
do.
40:57
So
40:58
if
40:58
you
40:58
enjoy
40:59
doing
40:59
it,
41:00
best
41:00
of
41:00
luck.
41:01
What
41:01
keeps
41:02
you
41:02
going
41:02
as
41:03
a
41:03
children's
41:03
book
41:03
author?
41:05
Oh,
41:06
being
41:06
around
41:06
the
41:07
young
41:07
people,
41:07
like
41:07
you
41:08
said,
41:08
that's
41:09
a
41:09
good
41:09
part
41:09
of
41:09
it.
41:11
And
41:11
I
41:11
just
41:12
enjoy
41:12
writing.
41:12
I
41:13
wrote
41:13
a
41:13
lot
41:13
as
41:13
a
41:14
medical
41:14
professor
41:15
and
41:15
then
41:15
I
41:15
switched
41:16
to
41:16
a
41:16
different
41:17
genre.
41:17
Enjoy
41:18
it.
41:19
And
41:19
you've
41:19
got
41:19
such
41:19
a
41:20
great
41:20
sense
41:20
of
41:20
humor,
41:21
so
41:21
I'm
41:21
sure
41:22
that
41:22
gives
41:23
you
41:23
some
41:23
cachet
41:24
or
41:25
helps
41:25
you
41:25
with
41:25
the
41:26
children.
41:27
I
41:27
hope
41:27
so.
41:28
Especially
41:28
with
41:28
Fred
41:29
the
41:29
snake
41:29
on
41:29
your.
41:30
One
41:30
of
41:31
your
41:31
hands.
41:33
And
41:33
I
41:33
have
41:33
a
41:34
jungle
41:34
gym
41:35
hat.
41:36
A
41:36
jungle
41:36
hat.
41:38
Oh,
41:38
fantastic.
41:39
Yeah.
41:41
Well,
41:41
encouragement
41:42
for
41:42
readers.
41:43
Why
41:44
should
41:44
readers
41:45
purchase
41:45
your
41:46
books?
41:47
They're
41:47
fun
41:48
and
41:49
you
41:49
learn
41:49
something
41:50
from
41:50
them.
41:51
There's
41:51
not
41:51
stuff
41:52
down
41:52
your
41:52
throat
41:53
or
41:54
in
41:54
bullet
41:54
points.
41:55
It
41:55
comes
41:55
at
41:55
you
41:56
quietly
41:56
when
41:56
you're
41:56
not
41:56
looking.
41:57
I
41:58
think
41:58
those
41:59
are
41:59
good
41:59
enough
41:59
reasons.
42:00
Absolutely.
42:02
Final
42:03
thoughts.
42:03
Peter,
42:04
is
42:04
there
42:05
some
42:05
question
42:05
you
42:05
thought,
42:06
oh,
42:06
I
42:06
wish
42:06
Rick
42:06
would
42:07
ask
42:07
me
42:07
that.
42:07
Or
42:08
something
42:08
that
42:08
you
42:08
would
42:09
like
42:09
to
42:09
share.
42:10
That's
42:11
a
42:11
good
42:11
question.
42:11
I
42:12
think
42:12
I'd
42:12
like
42:12
people
42:13
to
42:13
know
42:13
a
42:13
bit
42:13
more
42:13
about
42:14
my
42:14
website,
42:14
petercottentails.com
42:16
that's
42:16
T
42:17
A
42:17
L
42:17
E
42:17
S
42:18
dot
42:18
T
42:18
A
42:19
I
42:19
L
42:19
S
42:20
petercottentails.comthat's
42:23
all
42:23
about
42:23
me
42:24
and
42:24
the
42:24
books
42:25
that'll
42:25
be
42:25
in
42:25
the
42:26
show
42:26
notes
42:26
and
42:26
we'll
42:27
make
42:27
sure
42:27
we
42:27
spell
42:27
tales
42:28
correctly.
42:30
And
42:30
as
42:30
I
42:31
mentioned,
42:31
signed
42:31
copies
42:32
of
42:33
the
42:33
books
42:33
are
42:33
available
42:34
from
42:34
that
42:34
website,
42:36
so
42:36
I
42:37
enjoyed
42:37
dealing
42:37
with
42:38
those.
42:38
Terrific.
42:39
Terrific.
42:39
Peter,
42:40
thanks
42:41
so
42:41
much
42:41
for
42:41
being
42:41
a
42:41
guest
42:42
on
42:42
the
42:42
Adventures
42:42
in
42:43
the
42:43
Heart
42:43
at
42:43
Children's
42:44
Book
42:44
Authors
42:45
Podcast.
42:45
Your
42:46
generosity
42:46
of
42:47
time.
42:47
Your
42:47
insights
42:48
will
42:48
significantly
42:49
benefit
42:50
aspiring
42:50
children's
42:51
book
42:51
authors
42:52
and
42:52
readers.
42:53
We
42:53
promise
42:54
to
42:55
provide
42:56
our
42:56
audience,
42:56
as
42:57
I've
42:57
mentioned,
42:57
with
42:58
all
42:58
the
42:58
links
42:59
that
42:59
Peter's
42:59
talked
43:00
about,
43:00
his
43:00
website,
43:01
his
43:01
social
43:02
media
43:03
and
43:03
his
43:03
books.
43:04
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43:04
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43:04
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43:13
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43:14
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43:15
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43:15
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43:16
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43:17
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43:17
his
43:17
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43:18
books.
43:18
About
43:18
Fred
43:19
the
43:19
Snake
43:20
and
43:20
his
43:20
latest
43:21
release,
43:21
what
43:22
Fred
43:22
the
43:22
Snake
43:23
and
43:23
his
43:23
Friends
43:24
Learn
43:24
about
43:25
the
43:25
Chinese
43:25
Zodiac
43:26
and
43:27
the
43:27
Great
43:27
Race.
43:28
Thank
43:29
you,
43:29
Peter.
43:30
I
43:30
enjoy
43:30
it
43:31
very
43:31
much.
43:31
Thank
43:31
you.