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Bark, Snark, Cuddles in the Dark and Beckhams Lose Their Spark · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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How did your Dallas Cowboys team finished?
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I don't even know. What do you mean they're on the
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couch, Cowboy? Cowboys are on the couch right
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now along with the 49ers along with the thank.
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Goodness, they are. Yeah, but I don't even know like
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how? You're and and interesting.
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It'll be interesting as we get ready into the Seahawks and Rams
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weekend. The Denver Broncos, who I
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thought were going to go to the Super Bowl Bow Knicks, their
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quarterback broke his ankle on the last play.
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They won. They won the game.
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Yeah, I saw that. Because then he.
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Broke his ankle the last play and now they're going to be
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heading against the New England Patriots and they don't have
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their QB and they have a guy who's not played at all like few
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snaps. So to me, I'm already like, OK,
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Patriots is going to walk all over because you don't get your
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guy. No.
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And if he hasn't thrown hardly anything, Oh my goodness.
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So I really think we're going to get a redo.
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I think we're going to get the New England Patriots against the
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Seahawks, which is that infamous.
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Remember that the infamous oh right, two do two yeah, points
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in a row and they didn't, it didn't happen.
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I think we're going to get think we're going to get the infamous
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Patriots and we're going to get the Seahawks and.
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And we're going to get revenge, is that?
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Yeah, that's what Well, yeah, I I think the Hawks as the.
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Seahawks as Seahawks. Yeah, No, I think now, now, now
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here's the deal and I it's, it's.
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So what's interesting is I have a couple coworkers that have
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made me not like the Seahawks. Now, I don't dislike the
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Seahawks. I want to preface it because I'm
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from Washington, I think. We touched a smidge on this in a
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past podcast, but not the entire story or.
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Yeah, when the fan base, when the fan base behind so
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obnoxious, when the fan base gets so obnoxious, it's not
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against the team or the players. I'm like, I'm not rooting for
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you because you're just you're just frickin obnoxious.
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So but of course, I mean, of course I want the Seahawks to
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win because I mean, I'm a Washingtonian so I definitely
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the Seahawks to win. So but it doesn't bring a good
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question. So interesting that the Buffalo
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Bills, their coach, Sean McDermott, had gotten fired and
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then Mike, Tom. So Mike, Tom.
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Yeah. So Mike Tomlin from the the
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Pittsburgh Steelers stepped down.
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Jim Harbaugh of the Ravens, after 19 years, got fired.
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So all of these coaches had winning seasons.
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Now, they didn't get the Super Bowl ring and they got bumped
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out in the playoffs, right? But all of these coaches had
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winning seasons. So the regular season, they all
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won. They all won, right?
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They got, they did the job. So I I find it interesting that
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they'll blow you out no matter what, basically.
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Right. Even if you kind of feels like.
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Radio, it does it feel, it feels like radio when I think about
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now the did Now I just want to clarify the difference between
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radio and those guys is they make millions, right.
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So I'd love to be, I'd love to be blown out of a $13 million a
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year job after I worked a couple years and got 203040 million in
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the bank, right. Yeah, fire my ass.
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Fire me. I'm good, right?
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You know that they're still going to pick up whatever's in
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their contract if they have all kinds of shit in their contract.
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Well, if we fire, they're still going to get money.
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They get golden parachutes. Yes, they they are, they are
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well taken care of. So radio people doesn't work
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that way unless you're Howard Stern or Ryan Seacrest.
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Outside of that, the regular radio person, the rating, the
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ratings come back and your ass is out the door.
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Basically, yeah. But I, but I find it interesting
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that man is that it makes it hard to follow teams or or root
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on teams because the fan bases are just so God awful.
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Like I, I love it. I love it when overweight men,
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balding, fat overweight men sit at home and think, think that
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they can throw a ball like even the even the worst QB in the
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NFL. Yeah.
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Trust me, think that they can and and then and I'm not
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defending because football players are multi millionaires a
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billion times over. I'm not defending the players.
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I'm just saying Can you imagine the stress to lose a game or win
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a game? I mean the list just goes on and
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on. And then you got the fans that
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you, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, Period.
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Right, everybody. You have the weight, so you have
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so much weight on your shoulders, not only the team and
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the franchise. You have to perform for all of
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them and then you Add all the this fan base on top of it that
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is so. Touch and we're talking and
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we're talking a toxic fan base on top of that, you know?
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So yes. Yeah.
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So, so when it's when it's toxic and then it's on top, it's like,
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yeah, you may be getting paid millions.
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I don't know if you want that, want that job, if you're getting
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paid millions and millions of dollars.
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I, I think, I think some people are just fine with that.
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So yeah, fine with that stress. See.
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I don't know. The dogs are agreeing.
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I guess you don't know. What they are like that or the
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mailman's there? It's always the same time.
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It's always the same time. So I find it, I find the
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correlation between radio ratings and these people getting
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blown out of their their jobs. The money's not correlated,
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that's for sure. But how many times did that that
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ratings book come down and people lost their jobs?
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Every time. Every time.
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I don't remember a time it didn't happen.
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Yeah. I mean, unless we were in the
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doing well position and we were fine.
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Yeah, they're they're fine. And even then, regardless.
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Right. Even in our building, like if we
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did fine and another station didn't, didn't fine, didn't do
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fine, then that somebody in that station got let go.
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So it still affected our building in some way, even
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though it didn't affect us so personally.
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So the crazy story how Michelle and I met many years ago at KFFM
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in Yakima was and it was and it, and it was my very first PD job,
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program director job. So I understand that.
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But the station had a 16 share. It has 16 share at the time.
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And it was #1 in the market, number one in the market.
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And then my first book, it came back and it was an 11 share.
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Now KFFM was still number one in the market still number one in
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the market had a 33 share women 18 to 20.
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I mean it still was by far and this was before hot 99.7.
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Was there no competition? It literally ruled the market
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still. And legacy, it had been around
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for years, yeah, 2020 years I think by that point in time.
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Yeah, it it was so so, but because it had gone it because
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my first book and we lost Michelle knows this.
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We lost the entire staff. We we had already lost anybody
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who had gotten the 16 share except for you.
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I think you were still there. I think you may be the lone
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survivor of that I. Think so.
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You know and. Because I was the only woman I.
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Don't know who was the woman on overnights?
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Was that DJ Wilde at the? Time yes, and she hated my guts
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so yes she. Hates me too now, so don't.
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Worry. But she hated, she hated the
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fact that I didn't, I think when we moved you to mornings or
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something like that, she hated the fact that I just didn't
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automatically give her mid days. But she wasn't that good.
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I mean, not to pick on her. I mean, and she'll probably hear
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this and still be pissed at me. So I got nothing to lose.
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That's almost 30 years ago. So.
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So, yeah. You know.
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And so think of a program doctor.
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You're a coach on the team. You are a coach on the team and
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you got to make these decisions. But it's interesting that that I
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ended up getting replaced. I, I, I got to them before they
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got to me. So So what, what had happened
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was they, they want to bring in Jeff Jacobs and that's how Jeff
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Jacobs got there. And so Dave Amit, the general
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manager, took me aside and says, Hey, you're we're you're not
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losing your job, but we're going to bring in Jeff Jacobs to be
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over one O 7 and then you're going to be taking on Sunday
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92.9 at the time, because we're right, I was overseeing both
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stations. So and me and my arrogance at 28
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years old, I called a buddy of mine and said, Hey, you've been
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looking for a program director and you've been wanting to get
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me, hire me, right? And so did like.
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So I'll take it. So I took the job.
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So I walked in. So they they say, hey, we're
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going to move you out of that slot.
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Walked in the next morning and go.
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Here's my two weeks notice. Right.
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Big bad 28 now I'm a I'm a kid. I mean, I'm sorry. 28 left.
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Me left me. With Oh, but I was but I was but
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I went. But it was my it was my own
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arrogance of like peace out, you know, great.
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You ain't. You ain't doing me that way.
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And I think a lot of people would have done that.
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I could see myself doing that because you would be getting
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demoted is upsetting to a lot of people.
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And so I think a lot of people. And the book the fun, you know
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how would. Do that.
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I would probably do that in. Your and you know, The funny
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thing is the book came back and it went right back up.
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You know what I'm saying? It was just down and it bounced
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right back. So it was just a fluke
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basically. It was a fluke book, but but
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hey, it ended. It ended the way it ended and
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and so it was interesting that well, for the people who took
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over after me. Hot 99.7 signed on, cut them in
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half. You know, all the record company
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money said bye bye. See you later.
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Remember, I'm sure Kramer is walking around threatened
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because his you know, you, you no longer have any, you have no
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promotional budget because the radio station is not going to
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spend a dime. So so you got cut in half and
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and they didn't spend a dime. And so that station, my gosh,
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camp of him, was dead last for what, eight years?
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I think so because eight years I feel like, yeah, it just, they
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just kept getting, they kept trying to throw whatever would
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stick on the wall to try and get back some of those numbers that
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and in the process, I think they made it 10 times worse.
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Some. Of the shit they were doing,
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yeah. Even I, as a long time listener
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grew up with it. I some of the changes they were
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making and I by this time I wasn't there anymore.
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I would listen and go, what are they doing?
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Oh, yeah. My God, I don't even recognize
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the station. It was just, it was frightening.
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So the, so the hilarity was that happened to me in 2000.
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They brought me back in 2009. Station was dead last.
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They brought me back in 2009. The first thing that little
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Mikey Namare, they were on the station at the time and and a
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couple other people, first thing they said, Oh, he's just going
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to want to play Matchbox 20, you know, and I'm like, no, we're
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going to we're going to play. So what had happened was so
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here's a couple things that had happened to the station was they
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were doing so they they were doing a morning show called the
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noise boys. And so they were thinking that
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saying that saying damn and ass and doing and doing a game
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called Mangina. And they were, and remember and
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remember they were mixing like at 8:00 in the morning.
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Oh, it's the Master mix Wiki Wiki wiki wiki.
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Wiki. So.
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So you literally took this. I'm just saying.
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You took this grand old lady and you just freaking drove her into
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the fucking dirt and. Your target audience is women.
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Do you think women want to listen?
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To that right, right. And and so and Weezy was there
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and so Weezy, Weezy was telling me what what the lower valley
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was all about. So I got there and she's like,
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she goes, you don't know shit. You know, the lower valley.
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And I'm like, well, and I just, I just said, I just said, hey
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man, this isn't a ghetto radio station.
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This isn't your personal jukebox.
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And because she was playing whatever, you know, I'm saying,
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so it was, it was ghetto. It was ghetto.
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And at the time, and you think, oh, Rick's a genius.
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Rick's not a genius. At the time, the hottest artist
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in the format was Pink, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift.
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This was a huge high point in Chr music.
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Not like, you know, not like it is today.
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Literally was the high point of of the best of the best of the
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time, right? Women all love them.
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And they weren't playing any of those songs like when I talked
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to, when I talked to Steve Rocher, when I talked to DJ
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Little Mikey or Nam, they're all like, you know, those artists
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suck. Well, that's.
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Your personal opinion? We have to play artists that we
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personally think sucks but other people like them like.
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It's right, and I remember. Personal he can't just play
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whatever we want. Right.
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And so I came on board and then the playlist and it was
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interesting. There was a song Blues Blues
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Traveler run around. I mixed that.
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So we got the playlist back together and then that was on a
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note. We don't, we don't play Blues
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Traveler, we don't play Matchbox 20.
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And but they really had this, they really had the impression
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of who I was going to be coming in and they and, and, and what
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the station was going to sound like.
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And then they were shocked to discover that I'm that I'm a pop
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guy like that. It's going to be a Top 40 radio
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station. What's, you know, even today,
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right now, if I and I do, I run KISS FM in, in tri-cities, it's
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Sabrina Carpenter, it's Kendrick Lamar.
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It's, you know, it's like those are the hit records right now.
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And that's what you play. You play the hits.
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And so all I did, all I did, coming back nine years later, I
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played the hits. Suddenly one O 7 was #1 again,
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like like out of the blue. I mean, it just went right back
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to the top. Even beat 99.7 went right above
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it because it became mass appeal.
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It was mass appeal again. Like it should never have left
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me in mass appeal. But because they overreacted and
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kept thinking that they had to be more ghetto than 99 seven.
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And you're not going to be more ghetto than 99 seven.
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You're just not. That's where they live, right?
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And I give my respect to Blaze, Blaze, Blaze, if you're hearing
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this, this podcast, nothing but respect for.
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Him. He doesn't listen.
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No, he doesn't. But but it's one of those things
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is understanding, you know, the product, the product that you
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got. So going back to the NFL thing,
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it's like, yeah, it's one of those things where it's like
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they they, they never didn't have a winning season now and
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now you're out. How would you like to be that
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you put your heart and soul into it.
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In 19 years. Right.
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For a couple of these guys, for a couple, couple of guys.
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That would just be, I mean, they'll probably get shuffled
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around. You know, other teams are gonna
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hire so and so and so and so. Just like when we went to Vegas
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and I'm watching the news and I hear Pete Carroll with the
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Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders. And at first you go what?
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Because you still think he's with the.
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Seahawks we got fired too, but he got fired.
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And now he's the head coach for the Raiders and so.
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No, he got fired. He's fired.
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He's fired. Oh my.
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God, he's already out. Shit is just happening, I swear.
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That's crazy. Yeah.
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So now, now he. I think their record was one.
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And yeah. They didn't do.
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Well, so, yeah, so understandable.
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That would make sense to me. And I don't know if I don't know
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if Gino Smith will be around next year either, but.
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And Tyler Lockett ended up there.
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Yeah, too. Well, but you're putting, hey,
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now you can relate in radio to this is like you're putting your
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team together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Coming from radio. So it's like.
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You know how they're going to perform.
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You know they're reliable, you know things about them, you
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understand how they function and work and, and in, in Pete's
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case, how they play. And so, yeah, of course you
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would bring some of those people in.
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Well, and you and you and I interested enough have worked
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together multiple times because when you're, when you're
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building your team, you got to get you got to get the, the,
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the, the players in there. And I always, I always tell
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interesting little story too. I've always felt the program
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director at the radio station, he's the quarterback right now.
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I'm one of those quarterbacks that I'm gonna, I have the ball
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in my hand and I throw it to my receiver.
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And if they don't, if they don't catch it, I never go back to
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them again. Ever.
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I'm like, Nope, I can't trust you.
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I am never gonna give you the ball again.
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They're not reliable. Nope, they're not reliable.
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No exactly. And we have in our careers have
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dealt with a lot of people like that, a lot of people now
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they're no longer in the business, and for good reason,
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because eventually it's going to catch up with you.
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Right. Especially the ones who talk the
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talk and make. Oh God, yes.
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Make you think that they're going to be able to catch,
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they're going to be able to do whatever it is you're needing
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them to do. Like you just said, if you're
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throwing them to pass and then you you throw it to them and
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like you said they completely drop the ball or fumble it
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however you want to word it and and you can never trust them
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again. And yeah, I had to approve that
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there. Yeah, we're they were all.
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Talk and no action. Basically, well, and, and it's
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one of those things where it's like, and I'm not going to, I'm
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going to, I'm not going to name names on now because I don't
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want to get in trouble. But but I, I let a guy go
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because he got up during the middle of his live shift and
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went and did his taxes. I don't know if you recall that,
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Michelle, no. Oh, wait, no, no, I do know.
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You know who I'm talking about. Yes, yes.
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Yes, in the middle of their life.
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So I cut. So I get there about 8:00.
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They have their backpack. They're heading out.
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I'm like, where are you going? You still got another hour or
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two hours on your show. Oh, I got to go see my tax man.
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Oh God, I'm like, what's? I remember?
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I let him go. Yeah.
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Fast forwarding to the fact that we have all these computerized
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systems now that run radio stations and people are voice
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tracked in. And at that time it wasn't quite
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as bad. It was starting to get there.
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Yeah, and I mean he, I mean he, yes, he was, but he was.
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Still had live shows that we he was, he was.
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It wasn't. Voice tracked, Yeah.
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Right. But that even then like we were
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not allowed to do that if we were expected to have a live
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show though back then. Why would you want to do that?
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I guess. No, I wouldn't want to.
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Like I loved being live. I hated it when we start had to
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start voice tracking or voice tracking anything like I hated
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voice. Tracking.
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So it was pain. So, yeah.
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So, so that one time I let somebody go because, yeah, in
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the middle of their show, they were like, I'm going to go to my
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tax guy. Another time in tri-cities, the
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morning guy left the show to go talk to his lawyer.
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He was going through a divorce, but and that's sad.
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It's sad. No, it's sad.
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It's sad. But he literally left his show.
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But he left his show and I fired him.
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Yes, schedule. Go at a different time.
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You don't have to go right then and there.
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Make an appointment and go at a different time, not during your
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show. Yeah.
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Well, the important thing, I mean, to me, it's like it shows
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me the that that and I get it. Hey, different strokes for
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different folks. But, but, but if that's where
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you're supposed to be, you just can't.
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You just can't get up. And I don't know.
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So now, now the good news for folks that are listening There's
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nobody left in radio there. Isn't, I mean I just envisioned
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like the quarterback on the field going, oh, sorry, I got to
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go do my tax. Yes.
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Yes, I got to go see my lawyers. I'm getting a divorce, right?
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Exactly what are you doing? You know, which is the hilarity
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is now that you mentioned that that's that's a very NFL thing
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to say because they're so rich, they do go see their tax person
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and and they do go to a divorce. So and if they're not doing it,
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they're not doing it during a game.
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Why would you be doing it at work?
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So anyway, it was just interesting that I, I think it's
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interesting that no matter how successful that these folks are,
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you still get cut. And that just kind of sort of
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reminded me of the radio thing. So, so the delivery guy parks
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right in front of the house. Like why?
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Why he's part. We're not.
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We're not getting anything right now.
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But your neighbors are, and so he's going to park right there.
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And then he's going to. Go deliver all the packages to
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all the other neighbors while his man sits there and the dogs
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know the because my dogs are the same way.
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Yes, I'm like, why are you literally like right there?
20:08
I mean, it's driving me nuts. And then so he's upstairs
20:12
destroying the upstairs because the van is right there.
20:15
And it's like, I don't get it. I don't get it.
20:17
Why? You know why?
20:18
In front of our house. I don't.
20:21
Know now he's leaving, so there's nothing special about
20:24
our house. Just so you know, there's no
20:25
reason, there's nothing. Special where I have AU shaped
20:29
driveway and so a lot of times that they will sit and park in
20:33
our driveway and re whatever they're doing with their
20:36
packages and then so they sit there for a while and then they
20:40
take off and our dogs are losing their damn minds the entire time
20:43
because they know the vehicles like my dog see them.
20:47
Crossing on the road. And start losing their minds.
20:50
They don't even pull into her driveway.
20:52
And so now it's a funny thing is because the postal is electric,
20:58
they don't hear the postal, but if they see it, they know what
21:01
it is. Yeah, yeah.
21:02
And now they're all going nuts. Okay well now they're calm and
21:05
now we can move on cuz I wanna ask you if you are on blue sky,
21:09
are you on blue sky at all? Cuz I.
21:11
Search for you. I am.
21:13
I am. What are you under?
21:14
I'm sure I'm under Rick Michaels.
21:16
I tried looking for you when you did not come up so.
21:19
I did not, no. When everybody was bailing, was
21:23
it? Was everybody bailing on X?
21:25
Yes, Twitter. Yeah, so I have.
21:26
I still call it Twitter. Yeah, that's when I left too.
21:29
So I've been on it for a while, probably well over a year here.
21:33
OK, OK. Well, OK.
21:35
Well, you'll have to like, yeah, you'll have to look for me and
21:38
find me and then we could follow each other.
21:40
But. Rick Michaels dot rickmichaels
21:44
Rik Michaels dot Sky dot Social. Huh, okay, well, I'll look it's
21:49
either that or I don't know you didn't even pop up under like
21:52
I'm following you, so I don't know.
21:56
I don't know anyway, like I've been on it for a while and and
22:01
I'm starting to become more active on it, especially lately
22:04
because a lot of people are leaving Twitter and recently
22:07
because of the Twitter refugees is what they're calling
22:10
themselves. Especially, you know, with the
22:11
recent stuff with the AI Grok or whatever the fuck it is and how
22:16
it was allowing people to make inappropriate pictures and
22:19
videos with, you know, women and kids pictures.
22:23
I mean, gross, horrible stuff. And so a lot of people that had
22:26
stuck it out on Twitter were finally, they finally bailed and
22:30
they've all been on Blue Sky. And so now or they've all kind
22:32
of migrated to Blue Sky. And so now I've been a lot more
22:35
active on it. And so as I'm active on it more,
22:40
I'm learning more about it. And so one of the things is Blue
22:44
Sky has what's called starter packs.
22:46
And basically it takes like a group of people, let's say for
22:49
example, it takes a group of like fans of Richard Page.
22:53
So they would put like a Richard Page starter pack fan club.
22:57
And then at the top you can choose to follow all.
23:01
So it'd be like all these like you, you would be in there and
23:04
whoever else and you follow all. Well, because of this somehow,
23:09
and I ended up in a few starter packs, which I thought was
23:11
awesome. But because of this, I ended up
23:14
in, it's called the moderation list, I think.
23:17
And then when you're, when you follow the moderation list, then
23:21
it tells you who blocks you so you can see people that block
23:26
you. I know it.
23:27
First off, it's the weirdest thing and the best thing, it's
23:30
just weird. It's kind of like like, OK,
23:32
you're I don't even know you and you're blocking me.
23:34
It's bizarre, but I like it. And then someone on Blue Sky
23:38
told me they were like, well, you know, these people are
23:41
blocking you so you can't see them, but they can still see you
23:45
unless you go in and block them. And so then I was like, oh,
23:49
snap. And so I went in and started
23:51
blocking all the people that have blocked me.
23:52
I had no idea who these people are.
23:54
It's. It's weird, but.
23:58
That's where I've. Been yeah, or no worries or it's
24:02
based on like like what you have in your bio or who you're
24:05
following or what group you're in.
24:07
It's it's crazy. It's like, OK, I understand you
24:11
don't want your feed to look crazy with different things.
24:15
But again, some of them I'm like, we have the same interest.
24:19
Like that's why I started following you and now you're
24:22
blocking me. I don't understand so of this.
24:24
But anyway, it's weird and I'll have to look for you now.
24:28
So that's my little. It would be Michelle Matthews.
24:33
That's my little take on Blue Sky.
24:35
Yeah. There you go.
24:36
So now I just followed you. OK, OK, then I'll follow you
24:40
back. Same but.
24:41
Yeah. Yeah, I could not find you like
24:43
I searched you and I couldn't. Find you our.
24:46
Friend Our friend John Taylor's on there.
24:48
He and I have been following each other.
24:49
For a while I have a whopping. I have a whopping to followers
24:52
probably like I'm just I'm. Rocking I'm up to like a couple
24:55
thousand now so. My goodness.
24:58
I'm, I told you like I've been a little bit more active if you're
25:01
a little bit more active on it. Then I'm following Richard
25:04
Page's brother, Rob Page. Michelle Matthews, My God, oh,
25:08
they automatically give you they automatically give you the blue
25:11
sky app to follow. So that's that's one of my
25:13
followers. So yes, I'm I'm following four
25:15
people there, but. You John Taylor's on there so
25:18
you can follow. I'll follow.
25:19
I'll find John Taylor so. Yeah, OK.
25:22
Well, now that we got that all figured out, good.
25:23
OK. Because I was like, I thought
25:25
you said you were on it, but. I'm like I do I?
25:27
Do I? Do for the life of me, I could
25:29
not find you. So everything's going to be, you
25:32
already know Rick Michaels is going to be everything but.
25:34
But yes I bailed so I still have an X account, I just don't go on
25:38
there. Yeah, me either somebody said to
25:40
keep it, don't deactivate it or delete your because people then
25:46
could make accounts with your name.
25:48
So like say I got rid of deleted my Michelle Matthews account,
25:52
then some other random person could pretend to be you.
25:56
And so people were saying don't completely delete your accounts.
25:59
They could just be inactive and just be sitting there, which is
26:02
kind of what I've done with mine so.
26:03
Now you're making me go find John Taylor.
26:06
You're supposed to be focused on the podcast now, I'm finding.
26:09
That's not right. John Taylor what's?
26:10
What's John Taylor under? I can't remember.
26:14
He and I have been following each other for a while, so I
26:16
think he kind of left Twitter at around the same time or maybe
26:19
even before me, but. Oh yeah, I so I left.
26:22
So it's not that I jumped on. I mean, I did jump on Blue Sky
26:25
immediately, Yeah. I just didn't do anything.
26:27
On yeah, I wasn't really super active until recently, so yeah.
26:31
Yeah. So I'll have to go find John.
26:33
There's a bunch of John Taylors, but not.
26:34
Yeah, yeah, just. Well, John Taylor is such a
26:38
generic name. Sorry, John, you're listening.
26:39
Yes. But yes, I got.
26:43
I've got blue skies, so you'll go.
26:45
Find. Okay, good.
26:46
All right, well, now we can follow each other.
26:48
And then I can then I can block you, yes.
26:52
Or yeah, and then I'll see in the moderation list that you
26:54
blocked me and it'll. Be like, that's right, that's
26:56
right, that's right. Blocked me.
26:58
What's going on? Why?
26:59
He blocked you. He blocked you exactly.
27:01
Yeah. All right.
27:02
I have a question. So I saw this on Reddit a guy
27:05
that was he posts this question and he asked do you mind if
27:11
other guys call you buddy? Oh yeah.
27:15
Hey buddy. And so then I went, oh, yeah.
27:21
Like, as a woman, I hate it. I have always hated it.
27:25
No, I hate it when say you you see a Bart, you order a drink
27:31
and the bartender is like, hey, sweetie.
27:33
Hey, babe. Hey, like I hate.
27:35
It when guys do that to me as a woman, like a guy you just met
27:40
or even guys that I know and they would say that and I might
27:44
be a little bit more sensitive because I'm a blonde, but I do
27:47
know other women that are not blonde.
27:49
They don't like it either when they're called sweetheart or
27:52
honey or, you know, whatever it is.
27:54
So I was just like, so then that made me think like, well, are
27:58
guys the same? Like seeing that question posed,
28:02
I was like, oh, well, yeah. Like would guys be offended by
28:06
that or do they call each other buddy or so I was just curious
28:11
your thought as the man in the podcast.
28:14
So Micah Cephas once pointed out to me many years ago, many years
28:19
ago, he goes, he goes, Rick, every woman you call by their
28:22
first name and every dude is buddy.
28:26
He goes, you do, he goes. You don't even bother to get to
28:28
know their name. But everybody goes.
28:30
Every woman. Oh, you know every woman and you
28:33
call him by their name. Yeah, goes but.
28:35
But if it's a guy, he goes. He goes.
28:37
Hey buddy, Remember he always used to go Hey buddy, hey buddy,
28:40
hey buddy and it always made me laugh that I.
28:46
Did you call, like, little kids that?
28:49
Yeah. And out at.
28:50
Really. Boots or whatever.
28:52
But it really did you. Don't remember you calling a guy
28:54
that. No, I did.
28:55
Oh, yeah, no, he used to joke about it all the time.
28:57
He's like, hey, buddy. Hey buddy.
28:59
So yeah. So he always made the joke that
29:01
every woman I know by name and every dude is Buddy so.
29:05
That is factual. I.
29:07
Do so, so I don't have a problem with it.
29:13
Yeah, as a guy, I've heard my husband, he he uses Bud.
29:19
So it's like, hey Bud, he does it with our kids, but I've heard
29:23
him do it to like to his Co workers or people that work for
29:28
him. And sometimes to me it sounds
29:31
almost a little condescending. I'm kind of like, oh, like I
29:35
don't know if you should use that word or maybe just how he
29:39
says it. I don't know.
29:40
But I kind of like, oh, like. I will like, well, anything and
29:43
everything that you do is is how you say it at the end of the
29:46
day. So to me, for me buddy is, I
29:49
mean, that's just a hey, buddy. I mean, I don't, I don't find
29:52
that derogatory. I.
29:55
Was like hey buddy, hey buddy. To you now.
29:58
Now, I do agree with you. Besides Micah.
30:01
I agree with some. Randomized.
30:03
Sweetie or honey, if I was a woman, I would not like any of
30:06
that. Yeah, yeah.
30:08
Because that really, I've always felt that that's demeaning.
30:10
Yes, yeah. I oh, here's my thing too.
30:13
This is what I've never understood.
30:14
I think you and I've had this conversation is I have never
30:18
understood why women like when they meet a dude at the bar,
30:22
right and the dude goes, Oh, you're so hot.
30:28
I'm like, really women, women, It's like it's like what you
30:35
know, you're beautiful, your eye, your eyes are pretty.
30:38
What I don't, I don't. And women just go, Oh, I love
30:41
him. Oh my God, but I love him.
30:43
I'm like, he's a fucking Neanderthal.
30:45
He's a he scrapes his knuckles along the ground and the only
30:48
thing he can say to you is you're hot.
30:49
You're. Hot, right?
30:51
A lot of times that is because we are, it's some form of
30:54
attention. Like, yeah, like you might not
30:57
view it as positive attention and it isn't just it isn't, but
31:02
to women and it's some kind of attention and positive attention
31:08
and it feeds our insecurities. I think a lot of it is where
31:11
that snums from. So when you so that drives me
31:14
that I've always thought that was insane.
31:16
So the first time you need to do though, you're hot.
31:17
Yeah, you're the guy, I mean. We all love to be told like,
31:21
we're hot, we're pretty, we're beautiful, especially as women.
31:25
And so, yeah, you'll soak that up, especially someone that
31:29
you've just met, like, oh, you're so hot.
31:32
And especially at a bar because there are other women, a ton of
31:35
other women. And so you're being told that
31:38
you're hot by this one guy at the bar when you're in this bar
31:41
with all these other hot women. And so then that makes you feel
31:44
your ratchet. Ratchet is up your confidence
31:46
and you feel like. But but.
31:49
This guy thinks I'm hot. Not all these other women, you
31:52
know, It's just, it's, it's weird.
31:53
Yeah, but I don't. You think as a woman, a guy
31:57
approaching you going, you've got a you've got a great smile
32:00
or you've got you. Oh, I love your eyes.
32:04
Yes, I. Guess that would be nice your
32:05
your hook but. What guy would, what guys do you
32:10
know, walk up to women and say, oh, I like your eyes or like
32:13
your smile? I'm I don't, I don't know.
32:15
I have never been told that so. But but, but from a women's
32:20
perspective, is, is that better? To me it's better.
32:25
I think it's better. It's better as far as there,
32:29
there would be more true intention there.
32:33
Like if, if a guy walks up to you and like, oh, like.
32:36
I like your eyes. Or your smile right then that
32:38
he's not just there to just one night stand you, like you with
32:42
you that. But the guy that's like, oh,
32:45
you're hot. Like obviously he just wants to
32:47
sleep with you. Like you have to know, like what
32:49
all this means as a woman and understand that.
32:52
Yeah, like the dude that is like, oh, you're hot.
32:54
Like he just wants to sleep with you.
32:55
But at the same time, it is feeding our insecurities and it
32:59
makes us feel good. That doesn't mean we're going to
33:01
go sleep with him either, though.
33:02
But. Depends at the bar.
33:04
It just depends on yummy, yeah. It depends on the women.
33:09
I mean, I've always, for me, I I've always struggled with that,
33:12
that I never understood that beautiful, intelligent women can
33:19
be with the most Neanderthal male.
33:23
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
33:24
And then and now then they and they end up breaking up, of
33:27
course, because at the end of the day, you know, he not, he
33:30
not, he not, he doesn't care about your brains.
33:32
No, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't care about your
33:33
feelings. He doesn't care about your
33:35
emotions, any of that stuff. All he, all he cares about is he
33:37
gets what he got, He got, you know, and that's it.
33:40
So, and I always just, I just find that I just find that
33:44
curious. I just, to me it's like, and now
33:46
again, I have not been bar hopping.
33:49
I have not picked up women at bars because I just don't.
33:51
That's just not my trying to think trying to think of.
33:55
Whatever happened because you don't drink?
33:57
So have you ever like during your date when you divorced
34:00
Pokey, before you met Megan? During like your dating phase?
34:03
Did you meet living at bars? I don't mean you don't drink.
34:07
So I mean, unless you. Were there with somebody else,
34:09
right? Like.
34:11
I don't recall ever trying to pick somebody up at a bar like
34:15
it. Like, well, you've been married
34:16
to Jay forever, so. Right.
34:18
Right. So did you ever go to a bar and
34:20
get picked up by somebody? Well, yeah, when I first turned
34:23
21, OK, we were broke up because we were broke up on an awful lot
34:27
when I was younger because, you know, you're young and stupid.
34:30
OK. I mean, I would get picked, I
34:33
wouldn't go home with them, but I got hit on and.
34:37
When you. First turned 21.
34:38
Like you're going out like Cray Cray.
34:40
I mean, I've never, I never, I've never picked somebody up at
34:45
the bar. I've gone to a bar with somebody
34:48
and did. You like try to meet women at
34:52
the bar or. No, I met them at the bar.
34:55
So I met. So I met them.
34:57
Yeah. I.
34:57
Mean you met You met the woman at the bar.
35:00
I mean. I'm talking about like you're
35:01
there. Let's say say you're there with
35:03
Micah. You and Micah are like.
35:05
I don't recall and I don't recall I so, so many years ago,
35:10
many years ago. Well, when I first moved to
35:13
tri-cities, I did go to, I did go to a bar.
35:16
I was with a bunch of station people and there was a gal that
35:21
I did try to pick up. I got her number.
35:24
Oh. Nice, I got her number but but
35:26
then I what was your? Happening like what did you walk
35:30
up to her and like I give. You.
35:32
I don't know. No, we danced.
35:34
We danced. I asked her to dance.
35:35
I mean, the people were dancing, so I asked her to dance.
35:38
We danced. And yeah, I think I ended up
35:40
but. But it was interesting because
35:44
she she hung out for a little bit and then she went away and I
35:49
had to go find her. And I'm like, OK, this isn't
35:51
going to work out. Oh, why?
35:53
Because she went away and so. Well, she just went on to, I
35:57
don't know, fine, I don't know. Like scope out the room and.
36:00
I don't know what I don't know. I you know, I don't know.
36:03
I don't know anything about bar flies.
36:04
So he went. Oh.
36:09
I don't know. You have to educate me on that.
36:11
You know, I'm not making as Megan says, Megan says you make
36:13
assumptions. You make assumptions.
36:15
I mean, she could have been scoping out her options.
36:18
She. Could have, she could have, you
36:21
know, So I will, I will tell you this.
36:24
At that time I was a much younger man's probably well,
36:27
gosh, I've been with Megan 17 years.
36:29
So that's probably 20 years younger or whatever, late, late
36:33
30s. But even then, late 30s, that
36:36
means the average bar person is what, 2526?
36:39
Yeah. 24, Yeah, I would think so easily.
36:43
Yeah. Yeah.
36:44
Because don't, I mean, not to say that people don't go to the
36:46
bar, but a lot of them have died out in the early 30s, right?
36:50
They you should, but then you should be in a stable
36:54
relationship and you kind of moved on from the bar phase, but
36:58
I'm not everybody. I I get it.
37:01
No, I get it. And so that's why as as a 21
37:05
year old, you'll see these 50 some year old creepers at the
37:08
bar, you know, or they've been married and divorced and they
37:11
end up back reliving their youth going to the bars all the time.
37:16
You know that happens a lot too, so.
37:18
But what's amazing to me, it's like, it's like, well, on the on
37:23
the flip side, I guess it's like what what at 50 plus years old
37:26
do I have to offer a 21 year old?
37:29
Right. Like what?
37:30
What do you have in common? Unless you're rich, yes, that's
37:36
about great. You're the shit.
37:37
Daddy, basically. Yeah, well, Even so, even Megan
37:40
and I, it's funny, even Megan. I, Megan and I are nine years
37:43
difference, right? And musically, she can't stand
37:46
my music. Right.
37:48
She calls it Yacht Rock. She's I can't stand your yacht,
37:50
Rock. So she's right.
37:53
Yeah, so, well, that's that's right because you're Megane age,
37:55
right? You're close to.
37:56
You're closer to. Megan older.
37:58
I'm older. Than Megan Megan Megane, 46.
38:02
Right, I'm 5051. Right, so 51 so her so her music
38:07
is she loves Dave Matthews Band, Jack Johnson and Tim.
38:11
And to me, I like I like Survivor and RSP wagon and and
38:15
sticks and journey. I mean, because it's just my
38:17
era, you know, right. So, so yeah, it's interesting,
38:20
even with nine years apart, how much different we are just in
38:24
terms of our taste. Right, which I was just that's
38:27
funny because I was just reading there is a New York socialite.
38:31
She's like super popular on Instagram at TikTok and she's a
38:34
real estate agent and she gives advice to women on dating.
38:39
And I just read where she said it's not true.
38:43
The opposites do not attract. And I was like, oh, I was like,
38:47
oh, Dang, OK. Like, that could ruffle some
38:50
feathers with people. But she's just giving her advice
38:53
and how she sees it. And she's telling women, you
38:55
know, you have to get out there and talk to people.
38:58
Like, if you go to a bar, like talk to the woman to the right,
39:01
talk to the guy to the left. You have to start talking to
39:05
people and making friends. And and I'm thinking everybody
39:09
is so used to these dating apps and apps and with COVID, we were
39:13
stuck inside and that made it worse.
39:15
Now we are more introverted. I feel like as a society.
39:18
And so I think it's great that she is telling people this, but
39:23
for a lot of people, that's more difficult to do now than ever, I
39:27
feel like. But do you?
39:28
And she's not wrong. I actually, I don't think she's
39:31
wrong. I don't.
39:32
I don't think that I think #1 relationships are work.
39:35
That is the truth. It is.
39:37
No matter like that's why I don't have Real Housewives.
39:41
All those bitches have a lot of money, but they I still have
39:43
problems. This right, right.
39:45
So relationships, relationships are Yep, are, are hard, you
39:49
know, like Logan and I've gone around around about that.
39:52
It's like he goes, man, he goes, he goes.
39:54
You never cuddle with Megan. You're not watching a movie with
39:56
a blanket and cuddling like #1 Megan is not will never be a
40:00
she's never been a cuddler. Like it's just not in her
40:03
nature. So that's not, that's not going
40:05
to work out that. Way you're you're like I know.
40:08
Well, well, because again, being being no and that and The funny
40:12
thing, it's not because she want to.
40:13
Oh, as my wife says, it's not that she won't cuddle.
40:16
It's I'm a man. Oh, it won't just end at the
40:20
cuddling. Well, that's what.
40:22
She's right. She just says you she she goes
40:24
as a man, you can't just cuddle. No, you're if you're coming to
40:28
cuddle, that you're expecting something.
40:30
Oh gosh, as a as a male, I don't know about Jay.
40:34
I don't know if Jay's one of those great guys that.
40:36
Oh no, we can cuddle and that's it.
40:38
Like. What?
40:40
Yeah, especially on the couch because we remember we got the
40:43
little dual reclining love seat. Oh my gosh.
40:46
Oh my God. So so the hilarity.
40:49
So. Yeah, we'll cuddle on the couch
40:50
and share the blanket, but that doesn't mean that you know
40:54
anything's going to transpire from it.
40:57
So in our house, he. Expects it.
40:59
So in our house, it's hilarious because Megan refuses to come
41:03
downstairs to the family room on the couch because the dogs are
41:07
always on that couch. So, so dog hair or whatever.
41:10
I mean, we do clean it, but but still, it's where the dogs are
41:13
always at. And so, so there's the big TV
41:16
downstairs. It's where I'm at usually with
41:18
the dogs. And then she's upstairs.
41:20
She has her own couch that she bought and so she's on.
41:24
Nice and clean. Yeah, there's, that's exactly
41:29
what happened. So, so in terms of cuddling,
41:32
it's not like we can sit and cuddle together because and and
41:36
in our household, if I if I stop anywhere, the dogs try to
41:40
dogpile me. I was going to say you would
41:42
have three dogs in between you even if you did and.
41:46
Every every situation, the dogs are always in the same room that
41:50
I'm at. They just, they just are.
41:52
So it kind of ruins all of, you know, any of that, that normal
41:56
relationship stuff because the dogs are, you know, even as
41:59
we're doing this podcast, right, They're they're they're over
42:02
there trying. Their two cents in the podcast.
42:04
They do. They always say, yeah, So it's
42:06
one of those things where it's so, yeah.
42:08
So it's funny that yeah, that cuddling or any of that trying
42:11
to even. And then if I try it, she's
42:13
like, what? What do you want?
42:15
Because she knows. Now I will tell you the
42:18
exception I have made, and I talk about this in my book
42:23
because I used to have to rub Missus Wallace's feet.
42:26
Oh yeah, I remember the first time you told me about that and
42:29
I just. I so for for a billion years, I
42:34
don't rub feet because to me it's a subservient situation or
42:39
a traumatic place for me to be so, so I just, I just, I just, I
42:45
don't do it. I just don't do it even if it's
42:48
cuddle time, like Nope. So, but with Megan through the
42:52
years, I've made the exception. So that's good.
42:55
I do rub Megan. I do rub Megan's feet with the
42:58
anticipation of getting where I need to get to.
43:00
Never doesn't always go that way, but right.
43:03
And that's why, because. She knows.
43:05
That's and that's. Her that it's a big deal for you
43:07
to do it for. Like.
43:09
I would think like, OK, like this is a big deal for him to
43:13
even like do this. So I.
43:15
Think she knows. I think she knows that.
43:17
I'm like, OK, maybe something can happen.
43:20
Yeah, that's how I would think about it.
43:23
Now not to say that I have not just rubbed my wifes feet and
43:25
that's it because that's true. I have you know, I'm saying I
43:29
have but but that's so that's that's why cuddle time kind of
43:33
gets shot down in our house. Number one, dogs.
43:37
Always the dogs. Dogs are just all over the
43:39
place. Separate floors of the house,
43:41
basically. And your house would so your do
43:44
your dogs have to be in the same room with you guys all the time?
43:46
No, it's the cats. So I have a blanket on our love
43:51
seat because of the cats. The cat hair is all over it, but
43:55
it's the cats. The dogs are.
43:57
They don't get up on the couch because they're just so large.
44:00
There's ginormous. And so they've never, even when
44:04
they were younger and they would get up on the couch, they knew
44:07
they would be in trouble. Dexter, one time, he knew he was
44:12
not supposed to be on the couch. He was still like puppy age and
44:16
he was not on the couch. I went upstairs and I came
44:18
downstairs and he was on the couch and he saw me come down
44:23
the stairs and the look of like guilt on his dog face because he
44:27
knew he was like oh shit. Like I did not normally they
44:31
could hear you and he did not hear me coming down the stairs.
44:34
And so the look of guilt on him, it was funny.
44:37
Like I laughed. But then I'm like, OK, get off
44:39
the couch. So you're going on the.
44:43
Furniture. No, they don't get on the
44:46
furniture now. They didn't really very much
44:48
when they were younger, but we've trained them not to get on
44:51
the furniture now. If I let them in whatever
44:54
bedroom some out of excitement, they will run and like jump on
44:58
the bed. But then they realize what
45:00
they're doing and they're like, oh shit.
45:02
I'm wow, horrible. And then they jump.
45:04
Down so they're Australian shepherds, so they're smart by
45:08
nature, so. Hello.
45:10
Our dogs are incredibly smart, as you know, I've got a border
45:12
collie. I've got a border collie.
45:14
No, they're they're even. Phoebe was like the remember,
45:20
Phoebe was a brainiac. You know what I'm saying?
45:22
And so. So The thing is, if I sit down
45:24
and try to cuddle Megan, Bodie's got to get right in.
45:27
Like it don't matter what's going down.
45:29
Bodie will climb up. He'll stretch out.
45:31
He'll do you could push him. He'll come back.
45:34
Keep coming. He keeps coming back for more.
45:36
He doesn't. I feel like pets like sleeping
45:40
with you or that kind of stuff is worse than a toddler
45:44
sleeping. With.
45:44
Yes is horrible yeah, but I feel like sleeping with pets
45:47
sometimes is worse. Like my cat, she will come in
45:51
the bedroom and a lot of times I don't let the cat sleep with me
45:54
because I cannot sleep. I can't.
45:57
It's like sleeping with one of your children.
45:59
They're on your head and then they're like kneading your head
46:02
and then they're like sleeping right here on your chest.
46:04
And it's like, I can't sleep and I value my sleep.
46:08
So you're not going to be in my room, so.
46:12
OK, so yeah, we can't. So in our household, Barkley,
46:15
who's dead, who's gone deaf, sadly, we'll just scratch at the
46:19
door. He'll just scratch all.
46:20
You just can't. You can't lock him out.
46:22
So. So it's interesting for us.
46:25
Bodie and Barkley both are in the bed, and Bodie stretches his
46:30
long they're. Big dogs.
46:32
Yeah, well, Barkley's about 40 lbs and Bodie's about 60, and so
46:37
now Barkley's great. He'll sleep at the end of the
46:39
bed, but it's Bodhi who's got to be and Bodhi's got to be
46:42
touching somebody. That's just his personality, so
46:45
he and. And usually he's wrapped in your
46:47
legs. So when you wake up with a sore
46:48
back or however. Because you're sleeping.
46:51
Like this. Oh, Bodhi's hilarious.
46:54
He'll jump up on the bed and he'll spread your legs for you
46:57
because you're like, like, it's. It's almost like you're on a
46:59
date. It's almost like you're on a
47:00
date. No, Yeah.
47:01
It's like you're almost on a date and you got your legs
47:04
crossed and he comes up and he just, it plots himself, pulls
47:08
himself right in the middle of your legs.
47:10
But it's hilarious watching do it.
47:11
He's like it's. Like you're on a date.
47:13
Oh my. God, it's like, yeah, you're
47:14
put, you're putting out, you're putting out, you know, And
47:17
he'll, he'll take his pause and spread your leg and then he'll
47:20
curl up inside your leg, basic your legs.
47:23
I know it's. Just your dog doing that.
47:27
That's funny. It does.
47:27
Oh, man, it's hilarious. I mean, it's like, yeah, yeah.
47:30
It's like, yeah. So no, no boundaries with with
47:33
Bodhi at all. So.
47:34
Pets usually have no boundaries. They don't, No.
47:37
Yeah. So you were talking, you want to
47:39
talk about David Beckham because I have not heard.
47:41
The story say okay, what's the. Story about David Beckham.
47:44
We're running short on time. There's so much drama.
47:47
I was going to ask you if you've seen the drama.
47:49
So it's between David Victoria Beckham and then their son
47:53
Brooklyn. So all kind of like try and
47:55
condense it because it's a lot. So Brooklyn posted A66 page post
48:02
on his social media, right? It's just 6 pages.
48:05
Kind of like, you know how Britney Spears just drones on
48:08
and on. It was kind of like that where
48:11
he talks about how his parents controlled how things looked
48:15
they controlled. He talks about what his mom did
48:19
his, his wedding, just some shady stuff, and then how his
48:25
mom like wouldn't donate to the animals impacted by the fires in
48:29
California. Just a bunch of stuff.
48:31
And I'm going Oh my God. And then because I'm thinking,
48:37
OK, like, you're brave because I know your parents are
48:42
financially taking care of you. You know, David and Victoria
48:45
have a lot of money, and so I'm sure they're in turn taking care
48:48
of their son, right? I'm thinking, OK, like you just
48:51
got cut off. Like what is happening?
48:53
Well, I found out. So like his new wife, her family
48:57
is like billionaires and so of. Course they are.
49:01
So that's what that's how now you are OK with revealing all
49:07
this stuff, you're OK with being financially cut off.
49:09
Like, I'm sure that's what's happened or going to happen or
49:12
hasn't already happened, you know?
49:14
Mark was going to serenade the first dance.
49:17
Mark. Yes, yes, at their wedding and
49:20
then wasn't there something about like his mom invited his
49:23
exes or they they were doing some kind of dance.
49:26
I don't know. I kind of like it was 6 pages.
49:28
I just, I tried to read through it as quickly as I could.
49:32
Yeah, it was, it was just, it's crazy.
49:35
It's weird to me. And and then realizing that his
49:39
wife is rich. I'm like, OK, now this makes
49:42
sense because now you're, you're still able to fund the lifestyle
49:46
that you're used to. It's just now not going to be
49:49
underneath your parents rule, basically.
49:51
So as a parent, it's kind of heartbreaking when that happens,
49:56
but I kind of understand why he felt free to do it and was OK
50:00
with doing it. Finally.
50:02
The optics look bad, but it sounds like it was a lot worse
50:05
than probably what he posted so I'm expecting more to happen
50:10
his. Bride is gorgeous, of course,
50:12
because he's a beck. Yeah.
50:13
Isn't her name like Nicola or Nicola?
50:15
Nicola? I can't remember her name, but
50:17
yeah. I mean they look adorable
50:18
together as a couple. They look super cute.
50:20
He's got, he's got David Beckham's jeans.
50:22
I mean, yeah, he's probably, he's already a beautiful person,
50:26
right? Before we started this podcast,
50:27
I didn't get to read it, but I read that like David Beckham had
50:30
responded. So I don't know what the
50:31
response has been because we've been recording this podcast.
50:34
So I have to go back and look. At it.
50:35
Well, they're even upset that she didn't wear the the Beckham
50:38
dress wear the. Dress.
50:39
I didn't. I haven't read that.
50:41
Yeah, so she didn't wear Victoria Beckhams dress on her
50:45
wedding day. I guess she designed dress that
50:46
she designed a dress, right or something.
50:48
Yeah. Well, I mean so.
50:51
Going with the Valentino couture instead.
50:54
I mean, yeah, if her family has billionaires, I was, I would
50:58
have like I would have like 5 dresses.
51:01
My family was like. This, this could be a whole
51:04
life. You're switching clothes five
51:06
times before you can get down the aisle.
51:07
Yes, yeah, that would be me. I would like stop halfway and go
51:11
change a dress and come back and then halfway go change a dress
51:15
and go don't. You call this like, isn't this
51:17
what they call champagne problems?
51:19
I mean, I mean, I, I, it's so hard to like, I know you follow
51:23
this stuff religiously, but to me it's like.
51:25
Religiously, I just find it interesting with something like
51:28
this happens because it's again, the reason why I like watching
51:33
the Real Housewives, even though I know it's reality.
51:36
Is it reality? It's scripted to some degree,
51:40
but still, I like seeing that people with money still have the
51:44
same type of problems or the same kind of problems.
51:46
And so this is kind of similar to that seeing the seeing the
51:49
Beckhams, who like he's like Brooklyn says, kept a tight rain
51:54
on how everything looked and the optics of it.
51:57
And now that's kind of being shattered by their son revealing
52:01
all this stuff. Well, it goes back to but.
52:04
I understand as celebrities you kind of have to do that to some
52:07
degree too. You have to protect your.
52:09
Brand, I think it goes. That's Joe Crawford.
52:11
Mommy Dearest is what I think. That's all the shades of what I
52:14
think about. Why you're so angers?
52:16
Well, think about, I mean, think about having to control your
52:19
public persona so much. Yeah.
52:21
And then you haven't. And then you have, again,
52:23
complete teams controlling your public persona.
52:26
Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's like.
52:29
And then those teams would be controlling your kids.
52:33
Oh yeah, absolutely so. Brooklyn.
52:34
So Brooklyn. I think he mentioned something
52:36
about it in one of the pages about.
52:40
Think about the royal family. Think about the royal family
52:42
that, you know, the future Princess, the future king.
52:46
You know what I'm saying, George?
52:47
I mean, he's expected to be. Now they raise them that way.
52:51
Yes, you know that that is what is expected of you at a young
52:55
age. And for us normal people, I'm
52:59
yes, you expect certain things from from your kids and how they
53:03
behave. And so I mean for us well
53:06
commoners, that would be the closest thing I guess that
53:09
would. Be, I think when you look at it,
53:12
well, I think, I think it's the trade off to where I think it's
53:16
a trade off to where you've won the genetic lottery.
53:19
Yeah. And now there's and now there's
53:20
rules. Now there's rules because you
53:22
won this genetic lottery. Now there's rules.
53:25
And that's how you manage that, you know.
53:29
But also, because you've won this genetic lottery, you cannot
53:33
go to a movie theater. You know, like, you'll lose some
53:36
of those things that you and I could do as commoners and normal
53:39
people, But I would be fine with losing my ability to go to a
53:43
movie theater. I had billions of dollars.
53:45
And that is the thing that ROM com movies are made of right
53:48
there, you just said it. Those are those are the things
53:50
that ROM com movies are made of. I, you know, it's it's like it
53:56
all depends. I always look at like, how much
53:57
money does it take to be happy? There's not.
54:00
I mean, think about it, you can never ever truly be happy.
54:05
Look at Jeff Bezos. You think he is like, like
54:09
completely, blissfully happy. Like, sure, yeah, he just got
54:12
married, but you know, that's going to erode over time.
54:16
So like, yeah, you're like Uber beyond Uber rich.
54:21
You had a bridge dismantled so your Uber yacht could get into
54:24
whatever place that was. So you have more money than
54:29
imaginable, but you don't think that like he has some some kind
54:33
of problems or of. Course, I think I think it comes
54:39
down to the person at the end. At the end of the day, no matter
54:41
what, poor or rich, how you handle situations, that's where
54:45
character comes in. That's the foundation of who you
54:48
are. Right I was.
54:49
Going to say I know some very poor people who are amazing
54:53
people. Right.
54:54
Absolutely. Oh my gosh, absolutely.
54:57
There's no, there's no doubt about it that, you know, a
54:59
dollar amount does not make you a good person or, or, you know,
55:02
a logical person or an intelligent person or all these,
55:05
all these different things. But it is interesting, like you
55:08
said with the Beckhams, I mean, that'd be tough being a kid
55:10
growing up in that environment to where it's so controlled,
55:13
yes, on what you do and, and how you act and how you present
55:17
yourself. But then on the flip side, we're
55:19
going to, we're going to throw you a $40 million wedding if you
55:21
do it. Exactly.
55:22
And I understand, I understand where he's coming from because
55:25
you spend your entire life being told what to do.
55:29
Does there come a point to real like I'm not doing this?
55:31
And especially your, your like your wedding should be
55:34
representative of your personality and your soon to be
55:38
brides. There should be aspects of it
55:42
that represent your, you both and your personalities.
55:45
And if your parents are controlling it, or I'm sure they
55:48
had like Uber wedding planners, I'm sure, but still you would be
55:52
involved in it. And if your parents are just
55:56
like, well, I'm going to since I paid 40 million, this is how
55:59
it's going to be kind of thing then.
56:02
I read the article or they said that they're going to redo the
56:05
wedding. So are.
56:06
They Well, yeah, I. Mean they're going to redo it
56:09
the way they want. So I've always appreciated the
56:12
people who go get married and then they have a wedding later
56:14
or they have a giant reception later.
56:16
But yeah, because you don't like going to those kind of things
56:18
so. I mean, I, I do.
56:20
I mean I, well, I don't. I mean, but I, I will.
56:22
Oh. Yeah, you didn't go to my
56:24
wedding. I have.
56:25
Well, John Riggs reminded me that I didn't go to his wedding
56:27
either. So I have tried to make in my
56:29
old age, My old age. I've made a point to do the
56:32
things that that I. Don't want to do.
56:35
I do it all the time now. If you were, hey, if you get
56:37
remarried, Michelle, I'll be there.
56:39
OK. Thanks, I'll be the ring boy.
56:41
You did come to my 30th birthday party.
56:44
Yeah. Did you come to the 40th?
56:45
You did not come to the 50th that.
56:47
Just no, I had AI think I had a remote or something.
56:49
I I had some event going on that I couldn't come to.
56:52
Your 50th. Yeah.
56:53
But but I was, I was going to, but I did come to one of them.
56:56
Yeah, I know You came the 30th, 1 was at Pete's, remember when
56:59
you were single? So you came to that, I remember.
57:02
That yeah, way back in the day. Well, we'd come to now, we'd
57:04
come. We'll be there at the 55th, 1:00
57:06
we'll be there. The 55th is our thanks.
57:09
Well, you're going to turn 60. A ways away still.
57:13
Still a ways away, so. Before I turned 55 or 60.
57:17
Right, I will be years. Away are you from you're, what,
57:20
58? My gosh, really?
57:22
I'm going to. I'm going to be 56 in May, 56,
57:26
so I'm four years away, four years away, four years away from
57:29
60. I will be 60 before you're 55.
57:33
Oh, see, so I'm sure there's going to be a big 60th birthday
57:36
bash for you in the works that. You think so?
57:40
Do you don't you think like Megan would throw you a big
57:42
birthday party or? I can't recall.
57:46
Has she thrown you? Like have you had like a 50th or
57:49
40th or a 30th? Like.
57:51
Milestone. I I think but not I have no
57:54
friends so I that's probably why they they were not they were not
57:57
well attended. That's not true.
57:59
I mean, yeah, you have lots of friends, so.
58:02
I, I don't, I don't know about that, but I I'll, I'll accept,
58:05
I'll, yeah. I mean, could I, could I get a
58:08
bunch of people there? I think I could get a bunch of
58:09
people there if I had. Half of them would be listeners.
58:13
I would probably love. That day to show up.
58:17
You know, it's kind of interesting.
58:18
I have lots of people that I absolutely adore and love.
58:21
I just don't keep in contact with him.
58:24
You are like not great. And that's what drives Micah,
58:28
who's the best at He really is. He's like, he's like, gosh,
58:31
every time I go visit Katie Cook in Nashville, she's like, oh,
58:33
Rick, I love him so much. And he's like son of a bitch.
58:36
He's like, he doesn't call you, he doesn't text you, he doesn't
58:40
see you. And yet, and yet, and yet every
58:43
time I come visit you, you're like, oh, how's Rick?
58:45
I love him so much. Well, I mean, that's that's
58:48
understandable. I get it.
58:50
She's just curious about how you're doing.
58:52
And she has a she has a relationship with you for, you
58:57
know, that's built up over the years.
58:58
It's not like you just became friends.
59:00
So of course she's gonna ask about you.
59:03
Like, if I had lunch with Micah and I hadn't seen you in a
59:05
while, I would do the probably do the same thing.
59:07
Like, Oh, have you talked to Rick lately?
59:08
How is he? Well, but, but I think with
59:11
social media, that's the power of social media.
59:13
Anybody can reach out to me anytime.
59:15
Right. Yeah.
59:16
You're just like. People reaching out back.
59:19
Yeah, right. But people.
59:20
Do that people do. No, I'll respond.
59:23
I'll respond if someone reaches out to me at the third.
59:25
Time. What are you?
59:26
Talking about yeah, so it was interesting I had a guy that I
59:29
worked with at the skating ring, roller skating ring almost 40
59:33
years ago reach out to me recently and in front of me on
59:35
Facebook and yeah so I mean I and I responded back goes oh
59:40
where you at I'm in tri-cities blah blah blah so I.
59:43
You're good about responding to those people who just now
59:45
friended you, but the people who have been your friends for like
59:49
20? Or two.
59:49
Years like we have to text you through, we know by the third
59:53
time we have to text you 3 times for you to respond like that's
59:57
like the three time golden rule like.
59:59
That's true, Rick Rule. Unless, unless you said there
1:00:02
was, unless you said that you know that you had, you had to
1:00:05
talk like right now, you know. It's an emergency, yes.
1:00:08
If you would say if you wrote to me SOS, then I would respond
1:00:12
like, hey, what's going on? OK, I'm just going to say
1:00:14
everything is SOS. OK.
1:00:17
Going forward, do that. You'll be good.
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