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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Josh, and my pick for s
- 0:04Speaker 1: Y s K Selects this week is the one we
- 0:06Speaker 1: did on the ten thousand year Clock. Uh. Just looking back,
- 0:09Speaker 1: I think it's probably one of the coolest episodes we've
- 0:12Speaker 1: ever done. And it's just kind of me and Chuck
- 0:15Speaker 1: operating on all cylinders talking about something we're super jazzed about.
- 0:18Speaker 1: So we hope you enjoy it. And my apologies for
- 0:21Speaker 1: being sick in this one. It's still good. Welcome to
- 0:26Speaker 1: stuff you should know from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast, Josh Clark. There's Charles W.
- 0:39Speaker 1: W Chuck Bright and that makes this stuff you should
- 0:43Speaker 1: That's right. How are you, sir? I said, it's a
- 0:46Speaker 1: little under the weather. Other than that, I'll find I've
- 0:49Speaker 1: got that. Remember the Happiness audio book. We talked to
- 0:54Speaker 1: it guy David Pierced and trans humanist about separating a
- 1:00Speaker 1: susception pain, like the physical experience of pain, from suffering,
- 1:05Speaker 1: like just getting rid of suffering, like I've reached that
- 1:08Speaker 1: point and being sick where like I see how intertwined
- 1:14Speaker 1: the two are. Like I just keep saying, like woe
- 1:17Speaker 1: is me? Like I am suffering. It's pretty bad. So
- 1:21Speaker 1: do you feel bad, like in a flu sense or
- 1:23Speaker 1: is it just the head full of stuff it makes
- 1:25Speaker 1: it unbearable. Uh? No, Luckily I don't have any flu
- 1:30Speaker 1: symtom because that's what puts me under this when you
- 1:33Speaker 1: literally feel those eggs in your skin is really sensitive.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Was just what I had before you. We're taking turns.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I don't know if I got it from you or not.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Air air travel often will do that, so yeah, I
- 1:49Speaker 1: got I got mine after air travel too. Stupid air travel.
- 1:53Speaker 1: It's two thousand and twelve, you know you don't. Can
- 1:56Speaker 1: we do better with the recirculated air on a plane? Maybe? Yeah,
- 2:01Speaker 1: just like surely you can crack a window a little
- 2:03Speaker 1: bit or something, right, get some fresh air in there.
- 2:05Speaker 1: There's gotta be something there, right, So um, I guess
- 2:09Speaker 1: we should do this one. No, we're not, you know why,
- 2:15Speaker 1: because we got all the time in the world. Man,
- 2:17Speaker 1: slow down, That's what I was saying. Yeah, and I'm
- 2:20Speaker 1: just reiterating, well, thank you. There's no hurry, Josh. Well,
- 2:25Speaker 1: let's just stay here for a little while. We're in
- 2:26Speaker 1: the foundation of the long now. Uh, you're misreading. It's
- 2:33Speaker 1: the long now foundation. I like the foundation of the
- 2:35Speaker 1: Long Now you Longer? Yeah it is. It's a couple
- 2:40Speaker 1: of extra wards there named by Brian Eno. Yeah, the
- 2:44Speaker 1: great musical composer, father maybe of techno producer. I think
- 2:50Speaker 1: he's called a rock musician in this article. Well the
- 2:53Speaker 1: guy I watched a Setti talk from Alexander Rose, who
- 2:58Speaker 1: you said is the project manager of the Long Nail
- 3:01Speaker 1: Foundation's um clock of the Longmail project, which we're going
- 3:05Speaker 1: to talk about, And when he was doing his presentation,
- 3:07Speaker 1: he said mentioned Brian Eno and he said, who was
- 3:11Speaker 1: an ambient music guy? Is that what he called him? Yeah?
- 3:15Speaker 1: I was like, this is Brian Eno? Come on? What
- 3:17Speaker 1: did he write? Um? What was his album music for Spaceports? Uh?
- 3:22Speaker 1: Something like that? That was a solo thing after Roxy Music.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Yeah wait, Brian you know was in Roxy Music? Yeah?
- 3:28Speaker 1: I know, Brian Ferry was. They were, and they famously
- 3:31Speaker 1: butted heads and Brian Eno left I think after one
- 3:35Speaker 1: album did solo work until he hooked up with you
- 3:38Speaker 1: two and the Talking Heads and as an uber producer.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Cool man, where you go, Chuck. Thanks, that was a
- 3:45Speaker 1: great explanation. Okay, Mr Brian the ambient music guy? Right?
- 3:50Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, He's the one who coined the
- 3:52Speaker 1: the name the long now Um. And uh, this whole foundation,
- 3:58Speaker 1: this group of people, the long now Foundation or the
- 4:01Speaker 1: foundation of the long now Um, are dedicated to forcing
- 4:08Speaker 1: um hoisting upon humanity. Like you were saying, like just
- 4:12Speaker 1: the idea of slowing down, of taking a longer view
- 4:16Speaker 1: of everything, the long now. Yeah, And I think the
- 4:20Speaker 1: way they put it was to try and think in
- 4:23Speaker 1: the terms of if you live to be one thousand
- 4:26Speaker 1: years old, so long term thinking for the world is
- 4:31Speaker 1: better than short term thinking, although I would argue you
- 4:34Speaker 1: need both. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because it's like,
- 4:37Speaker 1: because exactly when should I get out of the way
- 4:40Speaker 1: of the speeding car? We don't live to be a
- 4:42Speaker 1: thousand that is, but I do like you hear it
- 4:45Speaker 1: behind it, I have a question for you. Would you
- 4:47Speaker 1: want to live to be a thousand years old if
- 4:50Speaker 1: we aged like normally and would be like you don't
- 4:53Speaker 1: turn into the dungeon Master from the from the cartoon. Uh,
- 5:00Speaker 1: you mean if it was like a thousand years old
- 5:02Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of like a hundred Heck, yeah,
- 5:05Speaker 1: would you really? Why not? Well? I can think of
- 5:09Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why not name one, Um, boredom
- 5:15Speaker 1: you'd be worried about boredom. Boredom. I mean, think about
- 5:19Speaker 1: all the stuff you can do in a century. Now,
- 5:22Speaker 1: multiply that by ten. There's an amount of stuff to
- 5:26Speaker 1: do on this planet. Well, if you I think everybody
- 5:30Speaker 1: would end up with huge, massive drug problems by age four,
- 5:36Speaker 1: you might be right, but hey, four year old should
- 5:39Speaker 1: be able to handle his h So okay, despite how
- 5:46Speaker 1: you feel about living, do a thousand long now foundation
- 5:49Speaker 1: is Um, they're kind of into that way of thinking.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Like you said that long term thinking can lead to
- 5:56Speaker 1: short term gain and a good example of this is
- 5:59Speaker 1: climb it change, right, So, UM, I think one of
- 6:03Speaker 1: the people who are on the side of who are
- 6:07Speaker 1: in favor of taking great action against climate change would
- 6:13Speaker 1: would say that, Um, if we can take steps now,
- 6:17Speaker 1: if we can think further out, then you know, we'd
- 6:20Speaker 1: be able to mitigate this. But we're not. We're thinking
- 6:22Speaker 1: about very immediate concerns, which some are are reasonable, like
- 6:27Speaker 1: economic concerns, that kind of thing. But it's just two
- 6:31Speaker 1: schools of thought exactly. So, UM, you can kind of
- 6:34Speaker 1: understand where the long Now Foundation UH would side or
- 6:38Speaker 1: sit on that. UM, debate. But what they figured out
- 6:42Speaker 1: is that we basically we humans to think like this,
- 6:47Speaker 1: we need something to um lead our minds in that direction,
- 6:52Speaker 1: because just saying like, man, what's it gonna be like
- 6:54Speaker 1: ten thousand years from now? It's like who cares? You know,
- 6:58Speaker 1: I'm thinking about food, like I am literally right now.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I just pose the question, and I'm thinking about food
- 7:04Speaker 1: already long term, right. But if they were saying, like
- 7:08Speaker 1: a two ft clock in front of me that I
- 7:12Speaker 1: knew was designed to tick off ten thousand years, I
- 7:16Speaker 1: might take a much longer view of things. A beacon,
- 7:18Speaker 1: if you will, a beacon. Indeed, so the long Now
- 7:21Speaker 1: Foundation has undertaken its flagship projects and there's a bunch
- 7:25Speaker 1: of other projects to UM called the Clock of the
- 7:29Speaker 1: long Now a k a. The ten thousand year clock.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Very cool, Yeah, and I think it's pretty awesome. I
- 7:35Speaker 1: can tell you're a fan. Well, but if for no
- 7:37Speaker 1: other reason than to uh get attention for for their
- 7:42Speaker 1: foundation and their their school of thought, you know, right,
- 7:46Speaker 1: And that's the whole point. Like, and it's gotten some
- 7:49Speaker 1: pretty good attention, I think, Um, A lot of people
- 7:52Speaker 1: have heard of the ten thousand year clock already. UM,
- 7:55Speaker 1: But it's actually being created. One's already done a tabletop version. Yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 1: tabletop meaning eight ft. But the well, the prototype, um,
- 8:07Speaker 1: and the whole thing was proposed by a guy named
- 8:09Speaker 1: Danny Hillis. Um back in UH wrote in a like
- 8:15Speaker 1: a Wired magazine scenarios article, the idea for this, the
- 8:20Speaker 1: concept behind it, and um, there's been coome this kind
- 8:24Speaker 1: of rallying cry that he wants a cuckoo to come
- 8:26Speaker 1: out every millennium. Everybody that shows up in every article
- 8:31Speaker 1: I've read on it, that's what they say. That's his thing, like,
- 8:34Speaker 1: he wants a cuckoo to come out on the millennium.
- 8:37Speaker 1: What's crazy is I don't see anywhere in here that
- 8:39Speaker 1: there actually will be a cuckoo. Yeah. I didn't see
- 8:42Speaker 1: that either. So poor Danny Hillis will have to wait.
- 8:45Speaker 1: But he's he's the guy behind the Long Nail Foundation, right. Yeah.
- 8:48Speaker 1: The first thing that I noticed when I look at
- 8:51Speaker 1: any of the writings about them and the long now
- 8:53Speaker 1: clock is the zero that they just placed in front
- 8:58Speaker 1: of the current year. So in when he wrote that article,
- 9:03Speaker 1: he proposed, you know, not that they actually change it,
- 9:06Speaker 1: but the way they look at things is zero one, nine,
- 9:10Speaker 1: nine five and Just seeing a date written in that
- 9:13Speaker 1: way kind of makes me breathe a little relief, because
- 9:16Speaker 1: all of a sudden, twenty twelve doesn't look like the future.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Oh to one two looks like, oh well, we got
- 9:25Speaker 1: a long way to go, like we're backwater Yokel's time wise.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Yeah does that make sense? Oh yeah, totally, because I
- 9:31Speaker 1: think they said we've been around, like civilization has been
- 9:33Speaker 1: around for ten thousand years or so. So essentially this
- 9:36Speaker 1: clock would represent our entire past. Well yeah, moving forward. Yeah,
- 9:42Speaker 1: it would place us directly in the middle of two,
- 9:45Speaker 1: which I love so which I was curious about. Why
- 9:49Speaker 1: they're not starting over then? Why not started zero years?
- 9:53Speaker 1: Clark's clock, um starts you want to name it a
- 9:58Speaker 1: Clark it's a millennium yea, uh maybe because they just
- 10:03Speaker 1: they don't want to disrespect you know, time served if
- 10:07Speaker 1: you will. But also so, what they've come up with
- 10:10Speaker 1: is a clock then that will run until the year
- 10:13Speaker 1: twelve thousand, twelve thousand, twelve twelve thousand and fifteen, depending
- 10:18Speaker 1: on how how fast they can get this thing built. Um,
- 10:22Speaker 1: but that's their idea, is to come up with a
- 10:24Speaker 1: ten thousand year clock, the clock that will run without
- 10:28Speaker 1: human intervention for ten thousand years one um that can
- 10:33Speaker 1: be easily understood by anybody. Um, which I think that
- 10:38Speaker 1: they could have done something slightly different with the design,
- 10:41Speaker 1: Like my eyes crossed when I look at like the face. Yeah, um,
- 10:46Speaker 1: I feel like I'm living in zero two one two um.
- 10:50Speaker 1: But there there's some challenges to all this, right, Like
- 10:53Speaker 1: there's humans haven't really made too many things, um that
- 10:57Speaker 1: have lasted ten thousand years yet. Yeah, why should this
- 11:02Speaker 1: be any different? Well, you you outlined a couple of
- 11:04Speaker 1: the base. I think they have the five basic principles
- 11:06Speaker 1: they were aiming for, and you outlined a couple of them.
- 11:09Speaker 1: There to work relatively free of regular maintenance? Was one? Uh,
- 11:13Speaker 1: simple enough to maintain that if all of a sudden
- 11:16Speaker 1: we go into some post apocalyptic world where there's no technology,
- 11:21Speaker 1: we could still maintain it. Right, They were saying they
- 11:23Speaker 1: estimate it couldn't go back prior to the Bronze Age.
- 11:26Speaker 1: But as long as we have Bronze Age technology, which
- 11:29Speaker 1: begin and the hallmark of the Bronze Ages metallurgy and
- 11:35Speaker 1: um in black magic and of metal or separating ores
- 11:40Speaker 1: from metal and um uh metal alloys. Okay, Well if dude,
- 11:45Speaker 1: if we're sent back beyond the Bronze Age, then this
- 11:48Speaker 1: clock is not gonna matter very much. You know what
- 11:49Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, A close inspection of the operational principles
- 11:55Speaker 1: should reveal the principles behind its operation. It's a little
- 11:59Speaker 1: bit of word play there that sounds like Danny hillis
- 12:02Speaker 1: and then uh what else? No matter when someone comes
- 12:05Speaker 1: upon it, it should be able to be improved upon.
- 12:08Speaker 1: And finally it should be able to be constructed small
- 12:13Speaker 1: enough to fit on a table. That's what the prototype.
- 12:15Speaker 1: So success, Yeah, success, And then for the rest of them,
- 12:18Speaker 1: they're they're kind of abandoning that because, like we said,
- 12:21Speaker 1: this thing is going to be the one that's being
- 12:23Speaker 1: constructed right now, is going to be two ft tall. Yes, um,
- 12:27Speaker 1: but looks like it I have ourselves, um powering such
- 12:30Speaker 1: a clock. There's if you're looking at ten thousand years,
- 12:35Speaker 1: I think it seems kind of likely that civilization will
- 12:39Speaker 1: suffer at least one collapse, if not several, And we
- 12:45Speaker 1: have no idea how far back humans will be set,
- 12:48Speaker 1: hopefully not for the Bronze Age. But um, so this
- 12:52Speaker 1: clock needs to somehow gain power from the environment, and
- 12:57Speaker 1: Danny hillis came up with a bunch of different ideas, right,
- 13:00Speaker 1: like atomic power. Yeah, most of that, Uh, that's poor
- 13:04Speaker 1: manageability and transparency. Most of these are scalability Like they
- 13:10Speaker 1: may have been good ideas, but they're just what too
- 13:12Speaker 1: large to fit their their needs either that there either
- 13:17Speaker 1: they're too big or they there already like they're perfect
- 13:24Speaker 1: for this clock, but you can't use that to power
- 13:27Speaker 1: Maybe if if something need if something's added on that
- 13:30Speaker 1: requires more power, t s. You already are using all
- 13:33Speaker 1: the power you can, or you can't scale it up
- 13:36Speaker 1: and it wouldn't work the same maybe exactly so that
- 13:38Speaker 1: would be chemical pre stored potential, geothermal, tidal, gravitational changes,
- 13:46Speaker 1: and seismic and plate tectonics. Those all had poor scalability,
- 13:50Speaker 1: so says Hill us Um, you can't use pressure change
- 13:54Speaker 1: because you would need like a bellows or a seal.
- 13:56Speaker 1: You want this thing to be as um simple as possable,
- 14:00Speaker 1: because as any engineer knows, the more moving parts you have,
- 14:03Speaker 1: the more parts you have that can break down. Um.
- 14:07Speaker 1: And the flow of water. That's a good one, right,
- 14:10Speaker 1: there should be water on the on the planet for
- 14:13Speaker 1: ten thousand years. Sorry, you're exposing the clock to water,
- 14:17Speaker 1: so inherently waters is self defeating energy source. Wind. Yeah,
- 14:22Speaker 1: any kind of exposure to weather. That's why this thing
- 14:24Speaker 1: is buried inside of a mountain, right, So what did
- 14:27Speaker 1: he come up with? He came up with two ideas
- 14:29Speaker 1: to power this humans. That's one. Yeah, human winding, that's one,
- 14:34Speaker 1: a novel idea. The other is temperature change, that's right,
- 14:38Speaker 1: but yeah, he wanted He said his favorite was human
- 14:41Speaker 1: winding because it fosters responsibility for the clock, which is
- 14:44Speaker 1: a great, great idea, I think, because ultimately the clock
- 14:47Speaker 1: is for humans, even though it's sequestered in a mountain
- 14:50Speaker 1: and it can run by itself for ten thousand years,
- 14:52Speaker 1: if no human ever lays eyes on it, it's for humans.
- 14:56Speaker 1: And we'll explain on that. If it sounds like we're
- 14:59Speaker 1: talking out above side to our amounts, will explain on
- 15:01Speaker 1: that by saying doesn't need humans. Yet, it doesn't need humans.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I bet people can't wait. I could just feel attention.
- 15:10Speaker 1: The hairs in the back of their necks bristly. All right.
- 15:13Speaker 1: So for the prototype, um, it's sort of like an
- 15:16Speaker 1: old school clock in a way. Uh. They used to
- 15:20Speaker 1: helical weights, Uh, similar to the weight gravity systems just
- 15:24Speaker 1: like clock towers, old clock towers, and they drive the
- 15:27Speaker 1: energy going up and down these tubes which will drive
- 15:30Speaker 1: the pendulum, right yeah, um. And ultimately the prototype, the
- 15:36Speaker 1: drive assembly as you'd call it, Um, it served its purpose.
- 15:41Speaker 1: There was a prototype and that it said, okay, we
- 15:44Speaker 1: need to do something different, and they have. But for
- 15:46Speaker 1: the prototype, Yeah, there's helical weights we're not familiar with,
- 15:50Speaker 1: are you okay? Um, But the the prototype also still
- 15:57Speaker 1: had like a solar synchronizer, which we'll talk about later, um,
- 16:02Speaker 1: and a pendulum, which will also get a little more
- 16:06Speaker 1: into But the pendulum is kind of key to keeping
- 16:10Speaker 1: the time. We should do that now you want to Yeah, yeah, okay.
- 16:13Speaker 1: So back in the six D people were trying to
- 16:17Speaker 1: figure out how to keep time better than they have
- 16:20Speaker 1: him more accurately. UM. And somebody a Dutch astronomer. Back
- 16:25Speaker 1: in the day the best astronomers were Dutch Christian holligans.
- 16:30Speaker 1: He said, hey, why don't you try using a pendulum
- 16:33Speaker 1: because a pendulum has pretty cool property and that the
- 16:38Speaker 1: only two um things that affect the swing of a pendulum.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Nothing else affects the swinging of a Pendlum, not changes
- 16:46Speaker 1: in temperature, not humidity, not anything else except the force
- 16:52Speaker 1: of gravity and the length of the pendulum. I didn't
- 16:55Speaker 1: know this well I didn't either. Um, if you take
- 16:58Speaker 1: a pendulum and put it just about anywhere on Earth,
- 17:01Speaker 1: you're gonna find that the gravitational field is is so
- 17:05Speaker 1: close to the same that a pendulum will swing the
- 17:08Speaker 1: same way anywhere on Earth. So the same rate to right, right,
- 17:12Speaker 1: So what affects that rate The period, which is the
- 17:15Speaker 1: amount of time it takes for a pendulum to swing
- 17:18Speaker 1: all the way from one side to the other. So
- 17:20Speaker 1: not just one side, it's it's both. That's a pendulum period.
- 17:24Speaker 1: So really the only thing that affects it is um,
- 17:27Speaker 1: the length of the pendulum. Right. The shorter the pendulum,
- 17:30Speaker 1: the faster uh they go. The longer the pendulum usually uh,
- 17:35Speaker 1: the um the longer it takes. And once you get
- 17:38Speaker 1: a pendulum going, which doesn't require a lot, it will
- 17:40Speaker 1: keep going. Yes, it takes a very small amount of
- 17:44Speaker 1: energy input to keep it going, right, yeah, which is
- 17:46Speaker 1: perfect for something like a ten year clock. Right. So
- 17:49Speaker 1: if you put a pendulum and attached it to something
- 17:53Speaker 1: called an escapement, right, Yeah, this is a part I
- 17:56Speaker 1: got confused on. Okay, we'll check this out. So you
- 17:58Speaker 1: have a pendulum, and you've figured out the exact length
- 18:01Speaker 1: you need for a pendulumce period to take one second
- 18:05Speaker 1: to tick off one second on on a second hand.
- 18:07Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So you can attach the pendulum to
- 18:10Speaker 1: this thing called an escapement. An escapement is just like
- 18:12Speaker 1: a wheel with some gears to it, right, And these
- 18:15Speaker 1: gears are attached to the second hand, Okay, and the
- 18:18Speaker 1: escapement is always wanting to go forward, but it's being
- 18:21Speaker 1: held in place by the pendulum, which is attached to
- 18:24Speaker 1: an anchor. But we'll just call it the pendulum, right,
- 18:27Speaker 1: So as the pendulum swings one way, the escapement gear
- 18:31Speaker 1: is being held in place, and it's when it swings
- 18:35Speaker 1: the other way, which is the end of a second,
- 18:37Speaker 1: the pendulum opens up, allowing the escapement gear to take
- 18:41Speaker 1: forward one tooth, thus moving the second hand forward one
- 18:45Speaker 1: movement in a second. So that's how you do it.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And if you're very, very clever, you can design the
- 18:53Speaker 1: escapement gear so that as it moves, as it escapes,
- 18:57Speaker 1: it also nudges that anchor that's a touched to the pendulum,
- 19:01Speaker 1: transferring energy back to the pendulum to keep it swinging
- 19:04Speaker 1: and that's basically the basics of a clock, mechanical clock, right,
- 19:09Speaker 1: and that's what they use for the ten thousand year
- 19:11Speaker 1: clock too, very smartly inappropriately to Yeah. I love how
- 19:14Speaker 1: when they do design something to work ten thousand years
- 19:16Speaker 1: they go back to bronze age and well this wasn't
- 19:19Speaker 1: bronze age, but a lot of just old mechanical technology.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it's I think we've advanced in
- 19:27Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, if you're gonna make a digital clock,
- 19:30Speaker 1: yeah we know what we're doing, but how are you
- 19:32Speaker 1: going to power it? And you want to just use
- 19:34Speaker 1: some really old, perfect technology exactly? That's called long thinking, Josh.
- 19:40Speaker 1: So we've got winding and temperature changes, differences in temperature
- 19:46Speaker 1: changes that are powering this clock, now right, that's right, um.
- 19:50Speaker 1: And then those are the two principles that are powering
- 19:53Speaker 1: the clock. And there are different parts of the clock
- 19:55Speaker 1: that need to be powered, like your favorite the Geneva wheels,
- 19:58Speaker 1: right Yeah, Aneva wheel sounds intimidating a Geneva drive until
- 20:03Speaker 1: you look it up on YouTube and see what it is,
- 20:06Speaker 1: and it's really just um. And it can come in
- 20:09Speaker 1: all kinds of shapes and in this case, it's sort
- 20:11Speaker 1: of the shape of a star, and it's imagine each
- 20:15Speaker 1: point of a star has a notch cut in it,
- 20:18Speaker 1: and sitting underneath that is a is a wheel, a
- 20:21Speaker 1: drive wheel that spins with a peg coming out of it,
- 20:24Speaker 1: and it slips into the little slot on the star,
- 20:27Speaker 1: advancing it one little click, keeps turning and and spins
- 20:31Speaker 1: out of it and then by the time it comes
- 20:33Speaker 1: back around, it slips back into the next one. So
- 20:35Speaker 1: it's just a slow ticking around in a circle. Right,
- 20:39Speaker 1: And so there's I think twenty of these for the
- 20:41Speaker 1: big clock. But they're designed with a bunch of holes
- 20:45Speaker 1: in a pins and holes system basically, which essentially is
- 20:50Speaker 1: making a mechanical Babbage Babbage difference engine like an early computer,
- 20:55Speaker 1: like a punch hole computer. Yeah. Right, they use before calculators.
- 20:59Speaker 1: They is mechanical summers or actors, and this is you.
- 21:03Speaker 1: But it's adding in binary ones and zeros. So it's
- 21:07Speaker 1: carrying out digital calculations through mechanical means, which is astounding.
- 21:13Speaker 1: And they're using this astounding technology to power basically what
- 21:17Speaker 1: um in this article that we're reading. It's the world's
- 21:20Speaker 1: slowest computer, and that computer is being used to calculate, uh,
- 21:24Speaker 1: an algorithm that will produce a different chime using ten
- 21:28Speaker 1: different chimes or two bells, um so that this thing
- 21:33Speaker 1: supposedly will never make the same chime twice. Yeah. I
- 21:37Speaker 1: think the algorithm maxes out at three point five million
- 21:41Speaker 1: chimes of course, designed composed by Brian Eno, the ambient
- 21:45Speaker 1: music guy, right and uh and that that doesn't have
- 21:49Speaker 1: anything to do with the powering of the clock. That's
- 21:51Speaker 1: just the chimes. No, but the dirty secret of the
- 21:54Speaker 1: Long Mouth Foundation is that three point five million different
- 21:58Speaker 1: possible chime tones uh or combinations is about ninety thousand
- 22:03Speaker 1: days short of ten thousand years. Oh really, yeah, it
- 22:07Speaker 1: wasn't ninety thousand days and years. I don't know, you
- 22:12Speaker 1: have a binary add we need some Geneva wheels in here.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Stat Well, they're not telling anyone that though obviously no
- 22:20Speaker 1: they did actually wired. Yeah, They're like, you know, this
- 22:24Speaker 1: thing's not gonna chime every day, so I'm sure it'll
- 22:27Speaker 1: be fine, Okay, But basically no one's speaking to probably
- 22:31Speaker 1: Needo right now. He's been demoted to ambient music guy
- 22:36Speaker 1: from legendary producer. Uh. So the prototype, that's the prototype.
- 22:40Speaker 1: It's eight ft tall roughly eight and a half. It
- 22:43Speaker 1: is um at the Science Museum in London. You can
- 22:47Speaker 1: go see it there. And it first started ticking on
- 22:51Speaker 1: December thirty first, nineteen or O one if you're a
- 22:56Speaker 1: long hour, and it worked the gong twice at the
- 23:00Speaker 1: turn of the millennium to indicate that two millenniums are
- 23:04Speaker 1: now past, which is funny because technically the millennium didn't
- 23:08Speaker 1: start until two one. That's true. But they don't care.
- 23:12Speaker 1: They don't care about a lot of stuff I'm finding out. Uh,
- 23:16Speaker 1: So let's talk about the real deal when this article
- 23:18Speaker 1: is written. The real deal was just proposed and it
- 23:21Speaker 1: was going to be about sixty ft tall. That was
- 23:23Speaker 1: two years ago. Well, that one is the one in Nevada.
- 23:26Speaker 1: I think that's still gonna be sixty. They just decided
- 23:30Speaker 1: to start on the Texas one first, gotcha because Bezos
- 23:33Speaker 1: was like, Hey, here's forty two million bucks, can we
- 23:35Speaker 1: get started? Well, go ahead and spill the means there.
- 23:37Speaker 1: I just Jeffrey Bezos, founder of Amazon dot com, UH
- 23:41Speaker 1: is heavily involved in this, to the tune of money
- 23:43Speaker 1: and UH it being built on a mountain inside a
- 23:46Speaker 1: mountain in West Texas, on his property. Yeah, so he
- 23:51Speaker 1: he owns it sort of kind of. I get the
- 23:54Speaker 1: impression that, yes, he definitely has This project is his,
- 23:57Speaker 1: but it's one of many that are going to be
- 23:59Speaker 1: built around the world, Like they got approval to build
- 24:02Speaker 1: one in a Smithsonian just this past year. Um and
- 24:07Speaker 1: uh also Bezos by the way, he said that the
- 24:09Speaker 1: two are unrelated. It's just a cool coincidence or whatever.
- 24:13Speaker 1: But he's also building a spaceport by the mountain too,
- 24:17Speaker 1: and he says that's unrelated to the clock. Yeah, he
- 24:20Speaker 1: just said, Hey, that's why not there's a space port.
- 24:23Speaker 1: There's gonna be ten thousand year clock. We'll see what happens.
- 24:25Speaker 1: But if you want to see he's um funding this,
- 24:28Speaker 1: uh this space program called Blue Origin. And you know
- 24:31Speaker 1: how like in the fifties, like science fiction rockets would
- 24:34Speaker 1: like land just going straight up and straight down, you know, yeah, yeah, Okay,
- 24:40Speaker 1: that's what his rockets do. And there's you can see
- 24:43Speaker 1: video of It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen that.
- 24:46Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, is this real? Like we're pretty good
- 24:49Speaker 1: at after effects these days, it's gotta be. I think
- 24:53Speaker 1: it's real. You can make it happen blue Origin dot com.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I will I will look that up, sir. So, like
- 24:59Speaker 1: you said, Bezo says, or the one in Texas, I
- 25:02Speaker 1: guess is what you should call it. The one that's
- 25:04Speaker 1: under construction is going to be about two hundred feet tall, um,
- 25:07Speaker 1: and it's kinda it's out in the middle of nowhere,
- 25:10Speaker 1: very purposefully. Yeah. I think it's hours from the nearest airport.
- 25:13Speaker 1: It requires a full days hike to reach the mouth
- 25:17Speaker 1: of the cave opening, which is like a steel door,
- 25:21Speaker 1: and it's a mountain rising up from the the desert,
- 25:24Speaker 1: so you have a fifteen hundred foot climb just to
- 25:27Speaker 1: get to the steel door the first door. So vandals,
- 25:30Speaker 1: not only will you be trespassing, but you need to
- 25:32Speaker 1: be a mountaineer if you want to go mess with
- 25:34Speaker 1: this thing, which we don't encourage one, but they have
- 25:39Speaker 1: they The first door is going to be jade, which
- 25:42Speaker 1: is pretty cool. It's gonna be hidden behind the rock face,
- 25:44Speaker 1: so like you have to, I guess you could stumble
- 25:47Speaker 1: upon it. I think that's part of the idea, the fun. Yeah. Um,
- 25:51Speaker 1: but you will know when you do stumble upon it
- 25:53Speaker 1: that there's something very cool there because it's going to
- 25:56Speaker 1: be a carved jade door in the rock face. Well,
- 25:58Speaker 1: they're gonna open it up when they finish, they said
- 26:00Speaker 1: they are. But I'm saying, like, if if this if
- 26:03Speaker 1: the location or the idea or anything you're having to
- 26:05Speaker 1: do with the clock, it'll still be there and people
- 26:08Speaker 1: can find it accidentally. Yeah. What really bothers me about
- 26:11Speaker 1: this is I'm not going to know the result. You know,
- 26:15Speaker 1: if you lived to a thousand, maybe you would, but
- 26:17Speaker 1: I can't live to ten thousand regardless. But does that
- 26:21Speaker 1: bother you? Yeah? Like I want to know how this ends.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I want to know if in ten thousand years, if
- 26:25Speaker 1: it's still running, Well, what happens if if? Okay, so
- 26:28Speaker 1: just the clock just you don't care what happens like
- 26:32Speaker 1: hundred years from now, not just the clock. Um, So,
- 26:37Speaker 1: if you want to access this thing, you go through
- 26:38Speaker 1: those two doors. It's in complete darkness. It's not all
- 26:41Speaker 1: lit up, which is kind of cool, right because I
- 26:44Speaker 1: guess any kind and they don't want any kind of
- 26:45Speaker 1: electricity to be needed obviously why they're building it. They're
- 26:49Speaker 1: using stuff but for a visitor later on, Yeah, exactly,
- 26:53Speaker 1: a post Bronze age visitor. It's going to be housed
- 26:57Speaker 1: in a five hundred foot tall tunnel about twelve ft
- 27:01Speaker 1: in diameter, Yeah, a vertical tunnel. Yeah, it's like a shaft. Basically,
- 27:07Speaker 1: it's a twelve ft diameter shaft that's five ft tall,
- 27:10Speaker 1: very tall. And um, it's got a very precise rock
- 27:15Speaker 1: staircase that was carved with a robot slicing machine. You
- 27:20Speaker 1: see video that I think it was awesome. And it
- 27:23Speaker 1: starts at the top, which is cool. Basically it starts
- 27:26Speaker 1: at the top with this just big hunk of rock
- 27:29Speaker 1: and just cuts in a circle, down, down, down, one
- 27:32Speaker 1: stair at a time, like the golden ratio kind of nautilus. Yeah,
- 27:36Speaker 1: very cool. Yeah, And so that's how you're gonna access
- 27:39Speaker 1: the gears. So let's go ahead and get to that.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get to the counterweights at least.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Well that's the first thing you would kind of come
- 27:46Speaker 1: upon if you walked in on this thing and it's completed.
- 27:50Speaker 1: And the counterweights are made up of stone discs, each
- 27:52Speaker 1: about the size of a car, each waying about ten
- 27:55Speaker 1: thousand pounds um. And we said that winding is winding
- 28:01Speaker 1: in differences in temperature change of the principles that provide
- 28:04Speaker 1: energy for this clock, but um, the weights are what
- 28:09Speaker 1: keep it running. Um. And when you come upon the weights,
- 28:13Speaker 1: you're gonna come upon a platform. And you know there's
- 28:16Speaker 1: like old um those old movies or whatever where there's
- 28:20Speaker 1: you know, slaves or um, somebody on a ship and
- 28:24Speaker 1: they're having to like crank a wheel. Like there's three
- 28:27Speaker 1: guys like all moving in the same direction, and each
- 28:29Speaker 1: one has like a pole that is pushing like a
- 28:32Speaker 1: horizontal wheel. Right. Yeah, they're gonna have one of those
- 28:35Speaker 1: for visitors to crank, and that will raise these enormous
- 28:39Speaker 1: counterweights and once they're fully raised, they'll have enough stored
- 28:44Speaker 1: potential energy to power the clock for about a century
- 28:49Speaker 1: without a single dash of sunlight or another human visitor.
- 28:52Speaker 1: So that's essentially winding the clock. I think they said
- 28:55Speaker 1: two or three people it takes to do this, and
- 28:58Speaker 1: um it what's it called a cap stand? I think
- 29:02Speaker 1: that that is what it's called. It's called a cap stand, right, Yeah,
- 29:05Speaker 1: that's the horizontal wheel. That's yeah. Yeah, so it's pretty cool,
- 29:09Speaker 1: like it requires human intervention. But as we said, and
- 29:13Speaker 1: let's go ahead and spill the beans how that works.
- 29:16Speaker 1: If no one came around ever, it would still run
- 29:19Speaker 1: because of uh differences, and it collects sun's rays. The
- 29:24Speaker 1: prism that sticks out at the top a sapphire couple
- 29:27Speaker 1: of I bet that looks nice. And that's the only
- 29:30Speaker 1: part that's visible from outside. They said, yes, And it
- 29:33Speaker 1: collects the sun's rays and then channels them down through
- 29:37Speaker 1: metal rods. And the difference in that was it the cave,
- 29:41Speaker 1: the interior cave temperature and the temperature that collects between
- 29:44Speaker 1: day and night. It changes okay and night, which is
- 29:46Speaker 1: pretty ingenious because you think about what they're probably still
- 29:50Speaker 1: will be over ten thousand years, there probably will still
- 29:53Speaker 1: be day and night. Yes, and that's ultimately what powers this. Well,
- 29:58Speaker 1: they're with no human intervention, Yeah, exactly. This dude though,
- 30:02Speaker 1: the Alexander uh what was his name? Rose? He said
- 30:06Speaker 1: that what they had to figure out there's something called
- 30:08Speaker 1: the equation of time, and it's not constant, like the
- 30:12Speaker 1: Earth is slowing its rotation by about a second every
- 30:15Speaker 1: couple of hundred years, and all this stuff sounds like
- 30:18Speaker 1: you have a big deal, but when you look on
- 30:19Speaker 1: a ten thousand of your timeline, it is a big deal. Um,
- 30:23Speaker 1: So the Earth is slowing by about a second every
- 30:25Speaker 1: couple of hundred years. Uh, it's also processing on its
- 30:30Speaker 1: pole every twenty six thousand years, so they have to
- 30:33Speaker 1: take that into account. And then climate change, it's gonna
- 30:38Speaker 1: if poles continue to melt, water is gonna be pushed out,
- 30:41Speaker 1: it's gonna rotate even slower. So what they figured out
- 30:44Speaker 1: there was a variance, Well, normally there's a variance of
- 30:48Speaker 1: about ten or fifteen minutes throughout the course of a
- 30:51Speaker 1: year from where the Sun should be. And they designed
- 30:54Speaker 1: this thing too self correct to still be able to
- 30:57Speaker 1: pick up the Sun's rays. Yeah, pretty ingenious, but they
- 31:00Speaker 1: needed to do it on a ten thousand year scale.
- 31:02Speaker 1: So they basically formulated this massive equation and they figured
- 31:07Speaker 1: out how time would evolve over ten thousand years according
- 31:10Speaker 1: to all these variables, and they found out it is
- 31:13Speaker 1: a plus or minus and this worst case scenario with
- 31:16Speaker 1: climate change of twenty three days from where they think
- 31:20Speaker 1: the sun should be over ten thousand years, which means
- 31:23Speaker 1: that the clock is way off by the end of
- 31:25Speaker 1: the ten thousand years. Well, but they accounted for that
- 31:28Speaker 1: with this equation they did. And the way that they
- 31:30Speaker 1: accounted for it though, also is through the solar synchronizer.
- 31:34Speaker 1: So every sunny day that um. At noontime, the sun
- 31:40Speaker 1: will hit that prism. We'll heat up this little rod
- 31:44Speaker 1: that sends a signal to the clock center working. So
- 31:48Speaker 1: the the smart part of the clock that keeps time
- 31:51Speaker 1: all the time, no matter what um and says, hey
- 31:55Speaker 1: it's solar noon, and they the clocks readjusts itself. So
- 32:00Speaker 1: the most it's ever going to get off is say,
- 32:03Speaker 1: you know, however, many days or maybe a couple of
- 32:06Speaker 1: centuries without sunlight if there's some sort of horrible nuclear
- 32:10Speaker 1: winner or whatever. But let's say a couple of hundred
- 32:13Speaker 1: years without sunlight. The next time there's sunlight, it'll say, oh,
- 32:16Speaker 1: it's noon, and the clock will just readjust itself kind
- 32:18Speaker 1: of wake back up. Yeah that's crazy, but but it
- 32:21Speaker 1: will go back to Okay, it's noon now. No matter
- 32:23Speaker 1: how far it drifted, it will now know it's noon.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Solar nude. It is very awesome. And the timber. The
- 32:31Speaker 1: differences in temperature also, it's it's called the thermoelectric effect UM.
- 32:36Speaker 1: The electrons. If you have a thermoelectric device, electrons will
- 32:39Speaker 1: go from a hot side to the cold side. And
- 32:43Speaker 1: you know as well as I do that the flow
- 32:45Speaker 1: electrons equals electricity, that's right, So that will keep things
- 32:49Speaker 1: in check as well. That will keep the inner workings
- 32:52Speaker 1: powered too. They thought of everything they did, and they
- 32:55Speaker 1: also thought of ways to store energy or to keep
- 32:58Speaker 1: from using energy, saving energy. He's another way to put it, well, yeah,
- 33:01Speaker 1: I mean over time. I think they said that if
- 33:03Speaker 1: the difference in temperature is great enough, it will just
- 33:06Speaker 1: store that temperature and over a timeline. If that keeps happening,
- 33:11Speaker 1: it won't even have to you know, stop and catch up.
- 33:13Speaker 1: It'll just start operating fully mechanically by itself. Right. So
- 33:18Speaker 1: here in the order of winding exactly, So in the
- 33:21Speaker 1: order of um preference or of importance, the solar energy
- 33:26Speaker 1: or the diurnal temperature change energy UM goes from the
- 33:31Speaker 1: inner workings of the clock, yes, spills over to the weights, yes,
- 33:36Speaker 1: and then if the weights are wound, then you will
- 33:39Speaker 1: have the Geneva drive operating. Right, So it goes basically
- 33:44Speaker 1: like the clock knowing the correct time, the clock operating
- 33:48Speaker 1: and showing the correct time or whatever information that's supposed
- 33:52Speaker 1: to and then the clock making sounds. Those are the
- 33:56Speaker 1: levels of importance as far as energy distribution. Sure, yeah,
- 34:00Speaker 1: that makes sense because the chimes, they gotta come last
- 34:03Speaker 1: they do. It's nice and all, but they're also they're
- 34:05Speaker 1: meant for human consumption. But if enough of that diurnal
- 34:10Speaker 1: temperature difference uh energy spills over to the weights, then
- 34:15Speaker 1: the clock will ostensibly um be chime when nobody's there.
- 34:19Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. That's very cool. And next to his
- 34:23Speaker 1: little rocket station. Right, he's got it all. He's got
- 34:26Speaker 1: all figured out. Um So, while we mentioned the Geneva
- 34:30Speaker 1: gears on on the on the main uh the two
- 34:33Speaker 1: ft when they're building these are about eight ft in diameter,
- 34:36Speaker 1: each one weighing about a thousand pounds. Yeah, and it's
- 34:43Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable. I mean, if you think if you
- 34:44Speaker 1: ever been inside a clock tower and seeing that, it's like,
- 34:47Speaker 1: imagine that times twenty. And remember the Geneva drive system
- 34:50Speaker 1: is the the mechanical computer that's come that's calculating the
- 34:54Speaker 1: algorithm to play the chimes. It's the whole reason it's there,
- 34:57Speaker 1: that's right, and it's being powered by winding or the weights.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Winding the weights. Uh So, if you keep climbing up
- 35:05Speaker 1: in this thing, you will get to the primary chamber,
- 35:08Speaker 1: and that is where you finally see the face of
- 35:10Speaker 1: the clock, which is the most important thing. If you're
- 35:13Speaker 1: building a clock, it's also gonna be baffling thing. Yeah,
- 35:16Speaker 1: I mean the face of this clock is uh or
- 35:20Speaker 1: if it's anything like the prototype, it's not like any
- 35:24Speaker 1: clock I've ever seen. It's very awesome, Like you can
- 35:27Speaker 1: clearly say, oh, I see the century, and I see
- 35:29Speaker 1: them the millennium, maybe even the year. But like when
- 35:34Speaker 1: I get to the star field, I imagine like so
- 35:36Speaker 1: the starfields being displayed, I get that. I think that
- 35:40Speaker 1: that means that if it were nighttime and you can
- 35:42Speaker 1: see the star field and you went outside and looked up,
- 35:44Speaker 1: you would see the same stars, right right, Okay, But
- 35:48Speaker 1: the horizons are what's throwing me off the most. The
- 35:51Speaker 1: ret r e t e. It shows horizons. I don't
- 35:56Speaker 1: understand what that, what that means, or what you're gonna
- 36:00Speaker 1: it from that fortunately, and I haven't seen it. But
- 36:03Speaker 1: supposedly there's going to be a manual, some sort of explanation. Yeah,
- 36:07Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll have it, some sort of uh it.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Once they open it up for people to come visit.
- 36:12Speaker 1: There'll be some like a little button you push and
- 36:14Speaker 1: it will be Morgan Freeman's boy explaining our works or
- 36:18Speaker 1: what the horizon means. Um If you want to know
- 36:22Speaker 1: the time of day, though, you have to ask the clock.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Chuck I thought this was one of the coolest parts
- 36:27Speaker 1: of this whole deal because they built it to to
- 36:31Speaker 1: operate at its most frugal over the years, obviously, and
- 36:35Speaker 1: one thing that you don't need is a current read
- 36:38Speaker 1: out if no one's there to read it. And so
- 36:40Speaker 1: they says, well, why don't you ask the clock, like
- 36:42Speaker 1: you said, So whatever time you see when you approach
- 36:46Speaker 1: the clock is the last time that it read when
- 36:50Speaker 1: someone wound not the clock itself, but the clock's face
- 36:56Speaker 1: right the display the yeah, the clocks. So there's two
- 36:58Speaker 1: ways to win. The cap stay and that raises the weights,
- 37:02Speaker 1: and then there's the there's a little hand wheel that
- 37:05Speaker 1: just one single person can do to wind the clock
- 37:09Speaker 1: the clocks display and it'll correct itself and say, we'll
- 37:12Speaker 1: ring it's now you know whatever time it is. And
- 37:15Speaker 1: here's the horizon, which Josh doesn't get. Here's where the
- 37:18Speaker 1: moon and sun phases are, and here's what year it
- 37:21Speaker 1: is with the zero in the front of it. It's
- 37:23Speaker 1: pretty cool. So the clock always knows what time it is.
- 37:26Speaker 1: It's just not necessarily displaying it. It's just not gonna
- 37:29Speaker 1: tell it's asked. Pretty cool, so chuck. Um, there's some
- 37:33Speaker 1: pretty obvious reasons to choose the inside of a mountain
- 37:36Speaker 1: to put this clock in earthquake protection, nuclear bomb protection mountains.
- 37:43Speaker 1: They're they're long lasting, yeah, um. But there's other reasons
- 37:46Speaker 1: that they chose the interior of a mountain as well, Like, um,
- 37:50Speaker 1: the differences in temperature between seasons and day within the
- 37:54Speaker 1: mountain um are very minimal, which means that you're not
- 37:59Speaker 1: gonna have a freeze thaw cycle, which is apparently very corrosive. Yeah,
- 38:04Speaker 1: but it's great enough to where you're gonna get the
- 38:07Speaker 1: energy out of it, right, especially at the top. So
- 38:10Speaker 1: remember like there's the mountain top that from the entrance
- 38:14Speaker 1: the bottom of the clock, the top is five feet,
- 38:17Speaker 1: but the clocks only two d feet, so the extra
- 38:19Speaker 1: three feet is above there is where the temperature differences
- 38:23Speaker 1: will really be noticeable. Right. Uh. So they've picked a
- 38:28Speaker 1: very good place. And also the one in Nevada has
- 38:30Speaker 1: got similar conditions, I think so, which is why they
- 38:33Speaker 1: picked that high dried desert, highdried desert. Uh. And then
- 38:36Speaker 1: the parts this is remarkable to me, Um, if you're
- 38:38Speaker 1: going to construct something at last for ten thousand years,
- 38:41Speaker 1: you're not gonna want to throw a bunch of thirty
- 38:44Speaker 1: weight oil in there, because oil uh has the potential
- 38:49Speaker 1: to fail and leak, and oil will attract dirt like crazy,
- 38:53Speaker 1: and little hairs in like fuzzy pieces of grit over
- 38:57Speaker 1: ten thousand years will stop any machine from running. So
- 39:00Speaker 1: what they did was they barring from NASA, who originally
- 39:05Speaker 1: developed ceramic bearings to use on satellites. So because you
- 39:09Speaker 1: don't want to have satellites that need oiling either, uh,
- 39:12Speaker 1: they used uh ceramic, which nowadays can be harder than diamonds.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Ceramic bearings, like the moving parts are ceramic. And remember
- 39:20Speaker 1: earlier I said, like humans haven't made too many things
- 39:23Speaker 1: that have lasted ten thousand years. Ceramic pot shirts are
- 39:27Speaker 1: one example of something. Boom Uh we have pot shirts
- 39:30Speaker 1: that are like seventeen thousand years old, and that's just
- 39:33Speaker 1: like from a pot. What they're making today should be
- 39:36Speaker 1: able to last way longer because these parts move so
- 39:40Speaker 1: slowly they don't require any lubrication. So the ceramic ball
- 39:44Speaker 1: bearings are keeping the metal parts away from one another,
- 39:47Speaker 1: because if you have to like metals that are in
- 39:49Speaker 1: contact and aren't moving really like the millennium dial um
- 39:53Speaker 1: basically won't move the whole time you or I are alive,
- 39:56Speaker 1: children are alive. Um. And if you have the same
- 40:00Speaker 1: kind of metal and like one gear touching the other gear, um,
- 40:05Speaker 1: they're's gonna fuse together. You know. Micro vibration. I did
- 40:10Speaker 1: not enlighten me. No, it's micro vibration, Like it's not moving,
- 40:14Speaker 1: quote unquote, but micro vibration over ten thousand years will
- 40:18Speaker 1: cause it to weld itself. That's pretty cool. And that's
- 40:21Speaker 1: if it's a like metal, and if they're unlike, they
- 40:24Speaker 1: will corrode over time in that right, Yeah, it's um
- 40:27Speaker 1: galvanic corrosion. If they're dissimilar metals, they'll just eat into
- 40:31Speaker 1: each other. So either either way, you don't want these
- 40:33Speaker 1: metals touch you another. So the ceramic ball bearings that
- 40:37Speaker 1: don't need any lubrication are perfect. It's right. The rest
- 40:39Speaker 1: of it is made from three sixteen sainless steel, which
- 40:43Speaker 1: this Alexander guy said that'll last ten thousand years. And
- 40:46Speaker 1: even if it starts to rust. The movements of this
- 40:49Speaker 1: clock because it moves so slowly, because it's so large Um,
- 40:55Speaker 1: the the precision doesn't need to be like thousands of
- 40:59Speaker 1: an inch, that's what's cool. It can be like a
- 41:00Speaker 1: quarter of an inch. Last plenty of room for rust, right,
- 41:03Speaker 1: so if there is rust, it really doesn't matter. And
- 41:06Speaker 1: also saw where he said in the video that all
- 41:09Speaker 1: the gear teeth were cut three dimensionally, and uh, what
- 41:13Speaker 1: that means is it uses rollers to roll the gear,
- 41:17Speaker 1: so it's a rolling mechanism instead of what he called
- 41:21Speaker 1: a scrubbing friction. So I guess a rolling friction is
- 41:24Speaker 1: much easier on the parts and scrubbing. And um, I
- 41:27Speaker 1: was reading a Wired article on it, and the reporters
- 41:30Speaker 1: said that he came upon a Geneva wheel, remember their
- 41:33Speaker 1: eight feet in diameter. Yeah, these are um and they
- 41:38Speaker 1: had the ceramic ball bearings in it and he could
- 41:41Speaker 1: turn it very easily with just like gentle pressure from
- 41:43Speaker 1: his finger. So they're going to be working just fine.
- 41:46Speaker 1: I can't I want to visit this thing when it's done,
- 41:48Speaker 1: at least I know I won't see the end, but
- 41:51Speaker 1: I'd like to be there for the beginning. Well you
- 41:52Speaker 1: can actually you can go join the long Now Foundation
- 41:56Speaker 1: at long now dot org. Right, Yeah, they operate on
- 41:59Speaker 1: don't nations. I don't think we ever even mentioned. It's
- 42:02Speaker 1: a private organization and funded by people like Bezos. And
- 42:07Speaker 1: I think the the UM basic membership costs like eight
- 42:11Speaker 1: bucks a month. Um, you probably have a pretty good
- 42:15Speaker 1: idea of where your money is going. Uh, their website
- 42:19Speaker 1: long now dot org, long now dot Oregon. Then there's
- 42:22Speaker 1: also now ten thousand year clock dot net and that's
- 42:25Speaker 1: bezos website. Yeah, and there's not a whole lot there yet,
- 42:28Speaker 1: but no, I mean it's just give overview, but um,
- 42:33Speaker 1: there's there. We were left out this one part and
- 42:35Speaker 1: the one in Texas Bezos is millennium Clock. There's gonna
- 42:39Speaker 1: be little alcoves, different rooms. There's a one year room,
- 42:43Speaker 1: a ten year room, hundred a thousand and ten thousand
- 42:47Speaker 1: year room, and like they're leaving it to later civilizations
- 42:49Speaker 1: to figure out what artifact to put in there. But
- 42:52Speaker 1: in the one year room they're putting the ory which
- 42:54Speaker 1: tracks the motion of the calculates the movement of the planets,
- 42:59Speaker 1: and it also is an animation of I think Voyager
- 43:02Speaker 1: two on this grand tour of like some of the
- 43:05Speaker 1: outer planets. UM. And that's going into one year and
- 43:09Speaker 1: they're going to figure out what to put in the tenure.
- 43:11Speaker 1: So they're soliciting um ideas from any if you have
- 43:16Speaker 1: an idea of what you what should be put in
- 43:18Speaker 1: the ten year alcove. But I guess some of that
- 43:21Speaker 1: stuff would require electricity though, right, I know, I don't
- 43:25Speaker 1: think so now, I don't think any of it's going
- 43:27Speaker 1: to or if it does, it will just be a thermoelectricity. Right,
- 43:34Speaker 1: So I feel like we covered that pretty well. Yeah,
- 43:38Speaker 1: ten year clock. I mean it's a way more basic
- 43:41Speaker 1: than it appears like when you first look at it.
- 43:44Speaker 1: It's like simple gears moving pendulum swinging. It's also going
- 43:49Speaker 1: up and fully and genius. Though, Yeah, the way they
- 43:51Speaker 1: put it together overcame problems that it may not encounter
- 43:55Speaker 1: for thousands of very smart, dudish indies. If you want
- 43:59Speaker 1: to learn more about the ten thousand year clock, you
- 44:01Speaker 1: can type in ten thousand year clock in the search
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- 44:13Speaker 1: That's right, Josh, I'm gonna call this the cone snail
- 44:16Speaker 1: saved my life. Yes, remember when we talked about the
- 44:20Speaker 1: cone snail in the Venom podcast No, it wasn't venom.
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- 44:29Speaker 1: it's like, what's the most venomous animal on earth? That's right?
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- 45:05Speaker 1: The only problem with using the cone snail venom to
- 45:07Speaker 1: control pain is that I needed an implant. It can't
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- 45:33Speaker 1: with Cone Snail venom. It has been a godsend and
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