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New Orleans Saints No. 8 Pick Breakdown: Tight End at 8? Trade Back Strategy + LSU Baseball 3-0 Weekend · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 4: figure out, Okay, what are the New Orleans Saints going
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  Speaker 4: to do? And I think a lot of people, you know,
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  Speaker 4: depending on how it falls. You know, you never know.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody you love, my fault to you that you weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of people are expecting it to be
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  Speaker 4: an all defensive player and an offensive skill player and
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  Speaker 4: a receiver.
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  Speaker 1: You start to look at this receiver class.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Jordan Tyson, who was there but didn't do
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  Speaker 4: anything except bench press because he's still nursing a hamshrink
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  Speaker 4: that he got at Arizona State. Okay, Jordan Tyson, great player,
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  Speaker 4: has had some injury history. It worries you a little bit, right,
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  Speaker 4: red Flax, whenever you have a ham shring, soft issue
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  Speaker 4: or a receiver, no doubt about it. So he's still
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  Speaker 4: dealing with that. Okay, We've got to put that in
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  Speaker 4: our memory bank. Cardinal Tate Carnal Tate ran a four
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  Speaker 4: to five certainly not the time that all the other
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  Speaker 4: receivers were putting out there. The receivers were a very
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  Speaker 4: impressive group. I'm not saying four or five slow. It's not,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not elite either. He's six three, one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and ninety five pounds, so he's in that frame that
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  Speaker 4: you're looking for. But Cardinal Tate, and again this is
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  Speaker 4: a good football player, But Cardinal Tate's never been Batman.
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  Speaker 4: He's only ever been Robin. Marvin Harrison Junior was the
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  Speaker 4: number one receiver two years ago. Jeremiah Smith was the
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  Speaker 4: number one receiver this year. Cardinal Tate's always been the
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  Speaker 4: second receiver. Now he can go have a very productive career.
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  Speaker 4: He can make a lot of plays. But are you
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  Speaker 4: going to take a guy that's only ever been number
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  Speaker 4: two in the top ten? You have to ask yourself
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  Speaker 4: that question because if you take somebody in the top ten,
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  Speaker 4: they got to be one. Even if you have Chris Lave.
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  Speaker 4: If you take somebody in the top ten, they got
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  Speaker 4: to be teddor Old McMillan, who just won Offensive Rookie
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  Speaker 4: of the Year. Right, you can't be Robin and be
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  Speaker 4: a top ten pick?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? In there.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it is, but we don't know. He's always been
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  Speaker 4: a secondary piece to somebody that was. You know, Marvin
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  Speaker 4: Harrison Junior a top ten pick. Jeremiah Smith's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a top ten pick. Right then we get to
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  Speaker 4: Denzel Boston then had the best combine. All right, all right,
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  Speaker 4: you go to Makaya Lemon. They do a whole lot
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  Speaker 4: at the combine. He's also five ten and some change
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  Speaker 4: one hundred ninety pounds. You're looking for something. I think
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  Speaker 4: I think a little bit different, looking for a different
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  Speaker 4: body type.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I love Omar Cooper Junior out of Indiana, love everything
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  Speaker 4: about that guy's game. Okay, but he's not a top
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  Speaker 4: ten pick. We know that he's a top forty pick.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you get him at forty two. Maybe. But I
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  Speaker 4: bring that up because is there really a receiver that
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  Speaker 4: you can trust right now at eight?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that there is.
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  Speaker 4: It's not to say there's not talented enough receivers, but
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  Speaker 4: with the top guy on a lot of people's board
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  Speaker 4: an injury guy, a guy that's missed games, a guy
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  Speaker 4: that missed the combine because of injury, and the other
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  Speaker 4: guy being a guy, it's always been a two never
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  Speaker 4: been a one.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready to take that guy in the top ten?
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  Speaker 4: And I gotta be honest, I don't know that I
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  Speaker 4: would feel comfortable right now. And as much as I
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  Speaker 4: want the Saints to at a playmaker, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that it can come from the receiver position.
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  Speaker 5: Top ten is so tricky because that's how everybody always
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  Speaker 5: feels like, if you're a top ten pick, you got
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  Speaker 5: to go in and be Superman. You got to be
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  Speaker 5: go in and make an immediate impact, which isn't always
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  Speaker 5: the case, you know. I guess counter argument to that
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  Speaker 5: would be, like, you don't have to make a pick
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  Speaker 5: that makes that always has to.
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  Speaker 1: Make that immediate impact.
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  Speaker 5: It can be somebody that you have that's going to
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  Speaker 5: make a bigger impact over the next four or five
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  Speaker 5: years and not necessarily immediate.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the other.
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  Speaker 5: Thing would be is your technically lave is your number one,
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  Speaker 5: so you're not looking for your absolute number one with
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  Speaker 5: and the number two receivers so far below, Like this
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  Speaker 5: could be like a one A, one B situation. But
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  Speaker 5: I asked Nick Underhill last week about this, Like, to me,
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  Speaker 5: the positions of need nobody is sticking out, like Okay,
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  Speaker 5: look it's the Saints. There's a lot of positions in need.
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  Speaker 5: I get it. But for what everybody is thinking is
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  Speaker 5: the obvious pick. Help your your your new franchise quarterback out,
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  Speaker 5: give them weapons. Like this draft to me screams trade back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah for me now, because a lot of those names
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned, you'd feel what you let's say, a completely
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  Speaker 5: different conversation if you're picking them at eighteen nineteen or
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  Speaker 5: twenty five, twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Six, completely different.
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  Speaker 5: Completely You're like, yeah, take that guy for sure, that's
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  Speaker 5: a no brainer at that position. Which there's so many
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  Speaker 5: receivers being talked about in this first round, like they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna be some of those guys are going to be available,
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  Speaker 5: and they're gonna be available into the second round. So
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  Speaker 5: there's so many positions to do like this, This draft screams,
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  Speaker 5: screams trade back. But that is not making Lewis's playbook. No,
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  Speaker 5: I think everybody would like to do that. If you
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  Speaker 5: are going today you brought up the linebacker from Ohio
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  Speaker 5: State at the end of our one, Like, if you're
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  Speaker 5: going to do something like that, that's truly a best
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  Speaker 5: player available type situation. That's the same you same could
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  Speaker 5: be said for Jeremiah Love as well, best type of
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  Speaker 5: player available. It's not a pick that you were a
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  Speaker 5: team like the Saints that has all these different needs.
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  Speaker 5: Those two positions aren't necessarily the sexy picks or the
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  Speaker 5: picks that you want for that for where the Saints
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  Speaker 5: are right now, but they're probably going to be people
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  Speaker 5: that are going to be very productive for multiple multiple years.
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  Speaker 5: But you would like to either get more assets or
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  Speaker 5: hit an asset that is going to make any immediate impact.
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  Speaker 5: To your point, like nobody is just jumping off the
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  Speaker 5: board to you, right, You're like, ye, that's an obvious choice.
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  Speaker 5: He'll definitely be there, you know, at pick eight, and
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  Speaker 5: it's an obvious choice for what our need is. So
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  Speaker 5: if you're not going to take best player available, don't
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  Speaker 5: reach and take a second round wide receiver in a
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  Speaker 5: top ten pick, trade that asset because you could probably
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  Speaker 5: get him in the twenties.
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  Speaker 4: And so if that's the case, right, if you don't
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  Speaker 4: trade back because that hadn't been their mo to your point,
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  Speaker 4: and if you do, I love what you just laid
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  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 1: But if you've done.
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  Speaker 5: First and you can get another second, or you can
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  Speaker 5: get another third or something like that, and you need
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  Speaker 5: it in positions there's going to be there's like we
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  Speaker 5: talked about defensive end, you want to rush here, there's
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  Speaker 5: so it's so deep, there's gonna be rushers available in
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  Speaker 5: the third and fourth round.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trader, this class is deep with three e's in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of edge.
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  Speaker 5: Rusher trade your first rounder, get an extra third this
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  Speaker 5: year at a fifth next year.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean. I love that plan.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I should I if I was a general
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  Speaker 4: manager or if I was the assistant you were the GM.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do. It's not what Mickey Loomis is
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  Speaker 1: probably going to do. Yeah, Lewis probably like sees that.
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  Speaker 5: What's the linebacker's name, Ohio State, Sunny Styles, Sunny Styles.
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  Speaker 5: His performance of the combine just made your eighth pick
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  Speaker 5: more valuable.
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  Speaker 1: Trade, Oh, no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: Now if Washington doesn't select him at seven, and if
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  Speaker 4: he makes it there now, but if they don't and
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  Speaker 4: you sit there and you're kind of a hand that
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  Speaker 4: we don't know exactly where you're leaning, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: you hold the power of the world in your hands
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  Speaker 4: during that moment, during that part of the day. You know,
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  Speaker 4: teams are like Oh my god, we need Sonny Styles.
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  Speaker 4: You know that you look good or could be RVL
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  Speaker 4: res high on RVL reas.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think Mike Brable would like to see him at
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  Speaker 1: a Patriots uniform, right, And they'll give it up from Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'll give up a lot. I'll give up a lot
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  Speaker 1: because that guy is going to be so again because
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  Speaker 1: I want it's a young gun offense right, young at
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  Speaker 1: the most expensive position. So yeah, mhm. And I worked
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  Speaker 1: with Pat Kerwin again.
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  Speaker 4: Pat's been in the game, you know, decades in the
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  Speaker 4: NFL in the front office, and he said there might
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  Speaker 4: only be two gold jacket guys in this draft, and
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  Speaker 4: he said, I think Sonny Styles is one of them, right,
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  Speaker 4: So like you could get potentially that. So if if
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  Speaker 4: you don't feel like he meets what you're looking for,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of teams that he would that would
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  Speaker 4: be willing to move up. So again, like that's a
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  Speaker 4: play that we would like to It's not probably going
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  Speaker 4: to happen. It's just not the way that they go
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  Speaker 4: about the NFL draft. So if they don't, if they
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  Speaker 4: stay at eight, they're still looking for a playmaker good.
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  Speaker 4: Kenyon Sadik out of Oregon. The tight end maybe fit
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  Speaker 4: what they're looking for because he's an F. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a y tight end, right, we talk about that all time.
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  Speaker 4: A y tight end is a yackle of sorts. He
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  Speaker 4: is going to be an extension of the offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: He's got three fingers and they're in the ground and
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  Speaker 4: he's attached to that tackle. The F is think more,
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  Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey, think Antonio Gates. You caught an everybody he
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  Speaker 4: caught an H.
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  Speaker 1: What'd you call the other tight end?
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  Speaker 6: You?
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard that. You're wrong. So half as a fullback?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if the fullbacks and a half is twelve person,
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  Speaker 4: Now the F stays the F and it becomes a
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  Speaker 4: second tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Silly. And if he's not the F, he's the H
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of offenses you I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Why that's for those people that have those offenses, all
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  Speaker 5: the dumb guys on it.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, Bud, okay, the second tight end because Matthew thinks
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  Speaker 4: only the Green Bay Pack came up with offensive football, right,
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  Speaker 4: so the second tight end?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Keep going? Sorry, what would you like to
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  Speaker 1: label this tight end? Bud tight Yeah, but not the
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  Speaker 1: why the other one? It's different?
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  Speaker 4: Though, every team has one guy that is going to Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you don't mute his microphone when you play with a
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  Speaker 4: tight end that's got a gold jacket named Antonio Gates.
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  Speaker 4: That isn't the best inline blocker. He can do some
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  Speaker 4: of it. He's willing, but he's not the best. We
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  Speaker 4: call that guy an f and that is what I think.
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  Speaker 4: Sadiq is probably going to play at the next level. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So if you're the New Orleans Saints and you know
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  Speaker 4: that information, Foster Morrow is going to be a free agent,
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  Speaker 4: Taysom mill who knows, all right, So you got Juwan Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that i'd love him as my WHY
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  Speaker 4: tight end either. He's not the best blocker in the world.
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  Speaker 4: But if you do sign a true WHY tight end,
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  Speaker 4: could he be the guy that is your playmaker that
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  Speaker 4: you're looking to add. You're gonna ask him to do
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  Speaker 4: some tight end stuff. You're also going to ask him
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  Speaker 4: to do some slot receiver stuff, all right. So he
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  Speaker 4: measures in at six three, two hundred and forty one pounds,
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  Speaker 4: four to three nine on the forty forty three and
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  Speaker 4: a half inch vertical jump, eleven to one on the
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  Speaker 4: broad jump. In twenty six reps of two twenty five
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  Speaker 4: on the bench press. That might actually be the most
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  Speaker 4: important number. That tells me he's got some strength to him.
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  Speaker 4: That tells me he can handle maybe some stuff in
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  Speaker 4: the run.
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  Speaker 1: Game, some wide tendencies. There you go, you're picking up
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates chargers position. F who's your tight ends in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay? A bunch? The best one? Uh? Well? Early
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  Speaker 1: on Jre Michael Finley. Okay, as Antonio Gates for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, he's better. Look it up.
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  Speaker 4: You think that he was ever better than Antonio Gates
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: To his mom and dad, that's it. And I guess
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  Speaker 1: you all right, we're talking about somebody that's maybe the
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  Speaker 1: best ever at his position. You're an idiot anyways, best
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  Speaker 1: ever in his position? Just reach y'all? Can y'all help
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  Speaker 1: me here? He's f though, which it's a Y and
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  Speaker 1: an F?
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  Speaker 4: What what offenses were you in that you didn't label
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  Speaker 4: the tight end?
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  Speaker 1: So was he ever?
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  Speaker 6: At?
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  Speaker 1: Was he ever the only tight end on the field? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: They didn't became the why, but a lot of times
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  Speaker 4: we were in twelve personnel and the why would be
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  Speaker 4: detached or be attached.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say he ever did it, like he only
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  Speaker 1: did one thing, but he was more of an F
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  Speaker 1: tight end twelve personnel. There's a Y and there's an F,
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  Speaker 1: or there's a Y and there's a U. However you
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  Speaker 1: label it. You know what I'm talking.
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  Speaker 4: About, Michael Finn, Like that is that's egregious, as an
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  Speaker 4: egregious statement that you just reaction I got though, I
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  Speaker 4: don't even remember what I was talking about anyways. Uh
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  Speaker 4: So the Saints could potentially see this guy Kenyon City
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  Speaker 4: got at Oregon as maybe the playmaker at eight taty.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you mentioned.
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  Speaker 4: Ross wrote an article on Louisiana Sports dot Net about
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  Speaker 4: this because he's not lasting much longer than eight I
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: don't think, not after what he did at the Combine.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: No, I mean he's going first round for sure.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Like LuSE actually brought this up when he was hosting
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: on AFR Friday, and then Ross included him as well,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: like an Eli Stower's a couple of rounds later.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Was a guy that people loved.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But look if you're in love with the Kenyon Sadi,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: we see a lot of people do this recently. Like
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I understand he wasn't the flashiest guy in college,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: like a brock Bowers. But brock Powers did it and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: kind of set the league on fires. A rookie was
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: really the only weapon the Raiders had. Like you see
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: tight ends getting drafted higher and higher because the position's changed.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Matthew, would you take a tight end? Nope, Nope at
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: a high No, I'm taking sight at eight. We've seen
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: this happen before. Now brock Bowers went a little bit later.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Cal Pitts did go before Tamar Chase.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders lost like every game too. All Lions
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: actually did that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: If you'all remember with Eric Ebron a couple of years
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: ago with uh out of North Carolina.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Now that's that's what the Lions pre r Campbell.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Has there ever been a tight end taking top ten that? Like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: everybody agrees that that that was a great, great move.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, Vernon Davis pretty damn good for a long time.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: To you to your point though, was he Gosh, she
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: was really good? But want to you want to take
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you again?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: It's the same, It's the same conversation trade back into
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the twenties.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's complaining the.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Fact that we can kind of remember the one that
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: kind of worked kind of worked out.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that we we've failed to mention that there Saints
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: do have a very valuable trade asset.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, I thought I was told that it wasn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a good backup quarterback. No. Oh, Derek Carr. Oh, he's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: not host of the Homegrown Network, if anyone.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: That we can talk about as a whole segment. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I did hear, and I'd like to ask Nick Underhill.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: There are rumors saying that they Saints have filled it
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: approximately zero calls of interest for Derek Carr.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: That's less than one.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: That's less than one, top one and one that's true.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Not a single call, not a single call. Apparently he's
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: a report of the damn New York Jets. Come on,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: what do you have to lose at this point? Apparently
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: the Jets are talking with the Cardinals Tyler Murray currently.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: That seems that seems like a fit. Sure, And it
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: also seems like the Vikings said that they're ready to
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: move on from JJ McCarthy. That's reports ready, These are
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: reports from the Twitter.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: I mean there's talk of Kirk Cousins potentially, I mean
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: not back in Minnesota.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota. Some of the whispers in Indie War. They
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: liked Anthony Richardson too.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Oh geez, what you know Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's pushing that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: He's like, please go get Anthony Richardson.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: And so last off season there was a lot of
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: talking about Aaron Rodgers to Minnesota, but Minnesota ended up saying, no,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: we're gonna stick with JJ McCarthy. So now that they
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: don't want to stick, is that potential I don't know?
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: So fun So the news of Anthony Richardson asking for
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: a trade, I think that broke on Wednesday.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they Hamilton Tiger Cats were all over it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so Tuesday they were actually they were at the combine.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I saw them represented. Yeah, trade, great to meet you.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, do you watch that hockey game? You bum?
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: So we had changed styching on Tuesday, Colts head coach,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Sorry if you don't know that. And we of course,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: like we talked about Philip Rivers for like the first
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: ten minutes because we were all together in San Diego.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: That's how I know Shane, and so how awesome that was,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah whatever. And so I was like, all right, well,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: shanell me about your quarterback room. Currently and he's like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: all right, yeah, yeah, we want to sign Daniel Jones back,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: like we're actively trying everything we can, and goes we
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: got Anthony Richardson and Riley leonard On and I'm like, oh, he's.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Not gonna be Yeah, that's bad.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Oh he's I hope other teams don't listen to this
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: because they're gonna know that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You'll take a bag of peanuts.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Right now for Anthony Richardson sure, because it was it
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: was Daniel Jones, well thousands, tens of thousands, it was
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. Wax Poetic Fly by Anthony Richardson, and that
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: told really nice about Ryland or what he did, so
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you kind of.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Like that felt like it was coming.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, Shane Siken said, when they drafted Anthony Richardson,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: we're married.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I know it. My career is going to be his career.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I get that. But it looks like that that's gone
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: out the wind. They're not married anymore. They're not married.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: They got a divorce. The kids gotta choose what never consummitted.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So all right, we gotta take a break, but we
• 21:37
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• 21:40
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• 21:43
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• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. You put a term
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to it. It's like a star like No, you put.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: A term to it because it's a different player, just
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: like an uh A tailback in the fullback are different,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: they do some similar things.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So twelve personnel is what two tight ends it is?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: That's that's it. You answered it, no, because not those
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: two tight ends don't have to be the same. If
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you got two y's in there that are just road
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: grader yatles, it's not too wise. They play the tight
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: ends in a playbook? Is this say tight ends the same?
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: And when they're when they're in meetings and they get
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: a position meetings, which room do they go into?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I go to the running back room? But I'm playing fullback,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you dumb dumb, Yes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Bro, you are making stuff up because you are so
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: in entrenched in media talk that you have to give up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You have to put a label. No to your question.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: If they go into the tight end room, what room
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: do I go into as a fullback? Is there a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: full back room? Or did I go into the running
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: because nobody has full back because it's an agent and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: F because there's only three fullbacks in the NFL. Not
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: when I was playing, they wouldn't talk about when we
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: were playing footage in a building on a full back room.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what it's a broom closet. I went into the
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: running back room, just like the path room. This guy's
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: got no respect for other positions.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect. I love tight ends
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of the best. That's what they are, the tight end. Like, hey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: what does this guy play on your team? You're like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, don't care. I know what I play. Yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he's off I am. But you know what I'm talking
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: about is the crazy thing. It's a good pass catching
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: tight end?
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: Is that?
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: What it is? The trade s type?
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: Is he?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Is he an F Titan? Yes, very much associated F. Yes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he's a Z bud. He's a zero an X I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: mean in my offense, Yes, he would be. That's gonna
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: be that. That'll be your term. You'll come up with next.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: He's an next tight end. No, we've been saying hy
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: n F no long time? Who you and Antonio? No,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: every offense I've been a part of. Okay, I don't
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: think so. Just tight end. You want to call Jimbo
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Well, when you have too tight ends, you have two
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: tight ends in the game, you have to give them
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: some sort of label, differentiating.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: On a plane, saying you are judging these people and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: stereotyping them with a letter, because that's what they play,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that's what they are. That's why I asked you. When
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Antonio gates in the game with one tight end, what
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: position is it? Then he becomes why why because there's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: an F in the game. God, this is god. I can't.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: This is okay in the head a lot I did,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: but I'm right, it's a star. Okay. Did he work
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: out with the stars this weekend?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: He didn't work out with anybody, which we'll get to
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: which we'll get to that, not just him, We'll get
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: to that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Calling all stars the bench press, stars the bench press.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: You know that is such a different conversation, and you're
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: digging your heels in, you know, it's you know what
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: What? What? Okay?
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I can't even if we called Jimbo right now and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: he's twelve personnel, he would tell you there's a why
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: and there's an F.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: That's fine. He's not gonna say Hey, that guy right there,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: that's an F tight end right there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Now he's an F t end. Oh yeah, he's a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Why what it's a tight end? Catch about he catch
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: pass it better?
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Some of them block better. And that's why you don't
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: need to separate the rooms. You don't separate it. Everything's
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: labeled for a reason.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates did he go into the Hall of Fame
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: as a wire? And f.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I can't remember which one? What's what's on his bust?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Why do you get there? Because he was in what's
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: on his bust? I can't remember what letters.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it yet, but he got there because
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: he was an F tied end.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: And I answering the question, tiptoeing through the tulips, No,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I answered it. This is a good radio electric give
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: the people what they want. Mhm, Hey, welcome back for real.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: We miss you. This isn't is uncomfortable. I'm fine as comical.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is Finn's been waiting for this moment.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: If there's one thing that I know my beloved co
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: host hates, it's labeling stuff in football. I know that
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I'm with you at the star position. I also think
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: that's dumb, but The thing that's bothering me is I
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: know the offenses you've been in.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Not all of them, not all of them. You're in
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of them.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: I know that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: But I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and you're taking that little Nike dunk shoe that you
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: have and you are digging it into the ground despite.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Meir Jordan wants, oh, well, I look like a Nike dunk.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I'm more a team issued shoes. I don't really know shoes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It's very nice. Okay, you know what I'm talking about. Okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: so let's just end the conversation here. Final verdict is
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: anybody okay with the Saints selecting a tight end?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. You get it at number eight.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Not if you're going to use him as a tight end. No,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Like if you would just want to line him up
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a receiver.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, i''m gonna do that, though even then
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: I think no, I mean I wouldn't want. You have
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: some pretty good receivers out there that I mean have
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: been well chronicled with Lemon and Tate. If they're still
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: on the board there, I I'd rather take one of
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: those guys, especially a guy like Tate uh with the
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: size and the catch radius that he has to kind
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: of go over the middle forty. Then then maybe a
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: tight end where you can get a guy like Eli
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Stoars potentially on day two if you do want to
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: draft that position.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Do you Oh no, no, absolutely not, absolutely, not a
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Now where would you feel safe selecting somebody
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like that? Twenties, Yeah, eighteen to twenty maybe posts fifteen,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: maybe eighteen to twenty five good, you got assets to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: be real.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Good, if you got assets something if it kind of
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: depends on what you get on the back end of
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: that trade. Like, I think there's a lot better options.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Eighteen to twenty five move back, better be good and
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: not just good, better be special. Yeah, I think you
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: have so many needs right now. And it's not that
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: he's not a great player.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I just don't know that that really elevates you to
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: some of the other places that you could get when
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you are when you're heavy and talented at places where
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you need help. You can be creative and you can
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: move back and you can still get I think a
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: lot of the things that you want. I think you
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: can move back to fourteen just picking a number and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: get it a playmaker at fourteen, get an asset that's
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: going to be able to give you an edge rusher
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: with the next pick. And then let's say you still
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: have forty two. If you get let's go fourteen. The
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Cowboys have two first round picks. What are they twelve?
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I think, or at twelve. Let's say they want to
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: move up to eight. All right, you give me both
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: those first round picks. We'll move up there.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Missing a defensive start, We'll give you our forty two.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll give you eight and forty two. You
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: give me those two first round picks, and I'm picking.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: If I'm the Saints that I'm picking at twelve in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the twenties, that's something like I can get to day.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: One starters with that. Now you know forty two, you
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: kind of expect a day one starter as well. But
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I like, you know, twenty six a lot better. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: like forty two. So you have the ability. The Cowboys
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: had the ability. And I look, as I said, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: caught up with Steven Jones like thirty minutes their defense.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Like he didn't even try to hide. He's like, no,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: we're defense in this draft. Say we're really good on offense.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: We're pretty poor on defense, so you have options out there. Yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: this is this all sounds really like really great.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would you were bad.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: And you have an asset, use it to the best
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: of your ability, and use it to something that makes
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: sense quickly. You have this window of opportunity right now.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Your cap is finally going to be on the right
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: side of history. You have a young quarterback that's your
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: franchise quarterback playing under a rookie contract. Don't screw this
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: up and make you limits. You're on a hot streak.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: You got the award for the best draft class. Yeah
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, let's make it too. Just do
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: something like this is the time. This is if there
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: was ever a window, this is the window of opportunity
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: for you to solidify a lot of those positions that
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: people always talk about it. You want to hit a
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: quarterback in the draft, because why, you don't have to.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Pay them a lot.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: You don't have to pay them starting quarterback money. You
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: got an asset in the top ten. If you play
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: your cards right and you find some some eligible and
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: suitable partners for trades and different assets, and you can
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: with the eight, especially if that the first seven picks
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: go the right way. Yeah, you can make a really
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: strong impact and not only make an immediate impact.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: But to last a long time, last for a handful
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of years. So here's hoping.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I think Saints can be very creative in this draft.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I think they are going to hold a lot of
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: level bridge at number eight. I think number eight is
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: like a really good sweet spot because teams are going
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: to be willing to give up what it takes to
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: get eight. Maybe they wouldn't have two, maybe they wouldn't
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: a three, but at eight with the defensive prospects in
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: this draft. And I can only speak to the coaches
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I talked to, but Dan Quinn said defense. Stephen Jones,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: you know, assistant GM co owner of the team with
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: his father, He said defense.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of teams have the assets to trade
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: up to the top three four picks, but a.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Lot I always having two first round picks because they
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: give up Michael Parsons.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of teams have the assets to trade for
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: an eight and number eight.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: It's not what they typically do, but they have an
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: opportunity if they don't do it, like the guy that
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: they let's say, Sunny Styles goes seven to Washington say
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: that that was the guy they were eyeing. They don't
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: feel great about the receiver class where it's at right now.
• 33:51
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  Speaker 4: by guy Will Helmer's Louisiana loaded.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, always good enough to have him.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, part of the g team comes all over with this,
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  Speaker 4: our tight end uh dispute here.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he showed up. That's why I'm actually here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, funds obviously right. I didn't hear that part. We
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me another three and oh
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  Speaker 1: weekend for the LSU fight Tigers. We'll take it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like and I know they had the midweek loss.
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  Speaker 4: That's like those aren't They don't matter Yeah, those aren't
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  Speaker 4: things that are gonna make you like, let's.
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  Speaker 6: Not make or break a season kind of thing. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I do love how Jay wants to win every game.
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  Speaker 4: No, I do love that off But and Mecisa was
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: better on that night, and so you're able to cut
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that and win three straight games. You got another game
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: tonight against Northeastern, but a lot of people pointing to
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: maybe some of the offensive struggles and maybe we can
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: get there a little bit later on. It's just one weekend.
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  Speaker 4: They were hitting the ball well before that, but the
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  Speaker 4: pitching staff did not disappoint.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me.
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  Speaker 8: They've been more what I was excited about rather than
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: kind of mad about. Yeah, I'm more excited about. You
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  Speaker 8: get three starters that are looking awesome on the weekend.
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  Speaker 8: Even if you know whatever, Dartmouth Northeastern, who cares, you know,
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  Speaker 8: these guys are getting better every week, it seems like.
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  Speaker 8: And so when you take that into account, if you
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  Speaker 8: can have the guys that you know you're giving up
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: three runs in three games, I'll take that right, even
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: if it's against Dartmouth getting into SEC play, the guys
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  Speaker 8: are still going to be over the plate with their stuff,
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  Speaker 8: and all three guys have great stuff and so it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: gonna play in the sec like it or not. And
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  Speaker 8: so if they can continue to get better from the
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  Speaker 8: mounds standpoint, they're gonna be hard to stop because the
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: offense is gonna come.
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  Speaker 6: Like it's just kind of how Jay rolls.
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  Speaker 8: You know, these guys are still getting there at bats,
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  Speaker 8: and they're still you know, working towards getting better at
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: the plate.
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  Speaker 6: And you still got a lot of.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: Guys who are new to LSU in the lineup, you know,
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  Speaker 8: new to Alex Box, and they're getting accustomed to what
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: it feels like there.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and so take you know, you take some of
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  Speaker 6: that into account and getting.
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  Speaker 8: That into their head their mental side, they're you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: being comfortable at the box. It's only going to get
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: better from here. I'm not worried about the offense at all.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, from a hitting standpoint. So let's go back last week,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: the last Tuesday, the McNeese loss. We were we mentioned
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: it last week a little bit, and it looked like
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: watching them take their bats like they were trying to
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  Speaker 5: hit Tiger Stadium. Yeah, Okay, So there's a lot of
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: subconscious at play and a lot of these things like
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: and you said you got a lot of new guys.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: First time they've probably when they sounded those shot probably
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  Speaker 5: or something. They've ever been to Louisiana. Yeah, they don't
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  Speaker 5: know where. They don't know where mcnice is, right, They
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: just like the smaller school the schools, right, they have
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  Speaker 5: no clue. So it's you put on the uniform, you're
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  Speaker 5: Alex Box ran National chamb. It's like subconsciously you're like,
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  Speaker 5: is there is whether you're trying to or not. And
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  Speaker 5: it happens in football too. That's why like we hated
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: the smaller school games. It's like you're like, Okay, we're
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  Speaker 5: better than them. I'm going to get some stats here.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make this ball go for a ride.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Whether they're actually trying to or not in their brain,
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: is that a real thing in these midweek games? Are
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: you trying to do something a little out of character
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  Speaker 5: that you wouldn't do necessarily in an SEC series.
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: I don't want to say you're like physically trying to,
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  Speaker 8: but it's definitely in your some conscious mind, like it's there,
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  Speaker 8: Like even from Louisiana, Like I know like Nichols, Mcnice, Twulane,
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: you and O. Right, these are all all all four
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  Speaker 8: of those schools we lost to when I was at LSU. Yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: you know, it just happens, and whether you're trying to
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  Speaker 8: do something or not, you are right, you know, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: you see it like guys take a little bigger swings,
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: they kind of you know, maybe gear up a little
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  Speaker 8: bit more on the mound, and it just causes like
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  Speaker 8: you'll see it, like you hit guys on the mound,
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  Speaker 8: you walk a bunch of guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot of it's just.
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  Speaker 6: Not a few, a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
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  Speaker 8: It was ugly from the mound. You know, they hit
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  Speaker 8: four and walked like six. Yeah, you know, you can't
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  Speaker 8: do that. And a part of that's just you're doing
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  Speaker 8: trying to do too much, you know, and trying to
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  Speaker 8: be too much when you don't need to be.
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  Speaker 4: And the words of Kuna do less, Less is more
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  Speaker 4: Sarah Marshall, Yeah, yeah, yes, uh, well somebody assuming much more.
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  Speaker 4: William Schmidt on Sundays And we were talking earlier and
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  Speaker 4: you'd be so much more qualified to talk about this
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: as a picture than we would.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, he has all this pressure of he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick.
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  Speaker 4: He decides to stay in school, and you had that
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  Speaker 4: option now with Nio, which is awesome. You get baseball
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: players like that in college baseball, and you know last
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: year you see flashes without question, but it wasn't consistent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had some issues staying in the zone.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: But he really feels like he's starting to come together
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: and like the best thing about it is no walks, right,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: no free passes.
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  Speaker 1: He's going down there.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a bulldog mentality now and you can start
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: to see like with every pitch it's like more and
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: more confidence, right.
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  Speaker 8: And that's awesome, Like that's all you can ask for.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: We're going from that freshman year to that sophomore year.
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  Speaker 8: And he actually mentioned this in his you know, postgame
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  Speaker 8: press conference yesterday, is like he learned a lot from
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  Speaker 8: guys that were here, like guys like Anderson and i Andsen,
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: who are you know, first, second, third round picks or whatever,
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: and other guys on that pitching staff. Last year, he
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: learned how to be a good picture, right, And he
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: said he knows how to be a good picture at LSU.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: It just took some time for him to get there.
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: And he's he's a young kid, like you know, he's
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: he's probably not even twenty years old. Yeah, you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: and so people put a lot of pressure on him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: But to see him overcome, you know, his struggles from
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: last year and be the picture that everybody knows that
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: he can be, especially around Baton Rouge.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: And in the state of Louisiana, is awesome. Like he's
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: been great.
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  Speaker 1: It is so wild for me to see and it
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: happens all the time.
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  Speaker 4: You see a guy like Kate Harrison is a great example,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: like from from like the year where you're just like
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: a baby deer and trying to figure yourself out and
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: everybody's like, I don't know, can this guy pitch? And
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: then like you figure it out because you're a year older,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: you know what it looks like, you know the process,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: and then you go out there become one of the
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: best pitchers in the country.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they had a similar story. Like Kate Anderson was
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: his freshman year was my senior year. We're in the
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: SEC tournament. He's walking guys and hitting guys and I'm like, man,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: who is this dude? Like what is why supposed to
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: be so good? Blah bla blah blah blah. And then
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: he comes out the next year and is Kate Anderson
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: and everybody remembers. Yeah, you know, and it's awesome. Williams
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: spit's the same kind of thing. It's like he's going
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: to be that guy. And he's got another year at LSU, right,
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: so the sky's a limit for him.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: And even more impressive. We talked about how short Dartmouth's
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  Speaker 5: lineup is. Yeah, small players strike, how accurate are we?
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  Speaker 1: Instead of the.
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  Speaker 5: That's such a turn, seriously, like talk about So of
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: course this past weekend was fantastic from the pitching standpoint,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: but let's like the whole season. Yeah, like into review here,
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: like how do you feel about the rotation, the weekend
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: rotation now and as we get into now a little
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: bit of March play.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I would love it.
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  Speaker 8: You know, LSU hasn't had three guys in a while,
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  Speaker 8: you know, since really my freshman year, they haven't had
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  Speaker 8: like three weekend starters. It was you know, Land and Marco,
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  Speaker 8: Jayden Hill and aj Labis my freshman year and after
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  Speaker 8: that we kind of rolled with two the Friday and Saturday,
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: and so I like how they have three starters and
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: three guys that can go deep into games. You can
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: save some arms, and then you can also use a
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: lot more guys and you can put them in smaller situations.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: I think you saw it yesterday, Like you get guys
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: that are just coming in for one out. If they
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: don't get him out, he's out, and we're throwing up
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: the next guy and gonna match guys up lefty, lefty.
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: You know just how your stuff plays against you know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: different hitters. And as you get into the SEC, which
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: is you know, obviously what really matters is how you
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: go in the SEC. You're gonna match guys up from
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: the mound based on what a hitter is doing on
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  Speaker 8: the other team and the amount of time that they
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  Speaker 8: spend scouting and looking into analytics and blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 8: If they can continue to, you know, stretch guys out
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