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Krampus - The Devilish Christmas Monster · The Cryptid Huntress

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Dennis Carol here in the studio. We're going to be talking about the Christmas
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Demon tonight. And who better to bring on space Out Radio to talk about
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the Christmas Demon than my resident demonologist Dennis Carol. Okay, don't forget that.
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Right after this show, After Hours has a fantastic program set up for
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us tonight. Okay, so let's get to the show, shall we.
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All right, Well, tonight we're exploring the devilish monster of Christmas Crampus.
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Every year, in early December, children in Austria get ready for Saint Nicholas
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to visit them and if they've been good, they get rewarded with presents,
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toys, candy, treats things like that. But if they've been bad,
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they get way more than just slumpical. They get a visit from Crampis.
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Okay, crampis the half man, half goat who chases not ey children around
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and potentially drags them to hell. Oh my god, what a horrible,
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horrible thing to have to worry about when you're a kid. Okay, if
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we don't have enough problems in this world, okay, So to help me
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discuss this tonight, I have Dennis Carrol here. Dennis is a well known
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authority on folklore, legends, superstitions, cryptozoology, and the occult. He's
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a supernaturalist and paranormal consultant who's advised people throughout the world. Dennis is a
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published freelance writer and author who's written several books based on supernatural events. He's
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an ordained minister and a photographer, a well known UFO and cryptid researcher,
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and a speaker who performs lecturers and presentations on culture, folklore, myths and
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legends. You can find Dennis on his YouTube channel Hunting the Shadows Please Help
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Me. Welcome to Space Out Radio Tonight. For this very Merry Christmas Crampus
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special. Dennis Carol, good evening. Hey Dennis, it's a dark,
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foggy night at that's a perfect night for our subject. It is. I
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can't wait to talk about Crampis. I don't think I've ever ever talked about
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Crampus on the show before, not in depth. So this is gonna be
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a lot of fun tonight. Oh he is a bad guy, and we're
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warning you kids now you better straighten up because Crampus is come look at you
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definitely. And we're kind of safe though, Jess, because Crampis is not
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is December fifth. Okay, we made it through that. But here's the
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interesting thing. That's his night when he's supposed to appear. Well, the
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interesting thing about Crampus is he can show up anytime between then and Christmas if
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he makes a special trip for someone. Okay, so you're not in the
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clear completely if you're if you're not careful with this guy. Oh man,
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I tell you what, Like if I if I had known about Crampis when
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I was a kid, I would have been on the street and narrow all
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year because I would have been so worried that Crampus was going to crawl off
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from under my bed and grab my feet and take me. Yeah, yeah,
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let's see. Uh. One thing I think about the crampis, you
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know, is he's kind of an invention to to kind of keep the kids
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in line, you know, if you don't get out of line, and
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you'd rather watch out with this guy. But he's also the personification of a
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complete opposite of Santa Claus, the good, saintly guy that does good bees
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and loves children. This guy is the complete opposite of old Saint Nick.
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And that's what makes him so very interesting. Uh, you have another sort
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of a reverse s mirror image thing going on here, And and the fact
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that here's here's another thing about the Crampus which makes him even more scarier.
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He carries a bundle of switches to whip you with if you've been bad,
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But it doesn't stop there. If you've really been really really bad and you
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like don't go to church and you don't do what you're supposed to do,
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and you don't do your household chores and all that, he puts you in
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the basket on his back, takes you to hell and then to eats you
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alive. Oh and it's not it's just children. It's not really the adults,
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right, well, it can be adults. Adults have been supposedly victims
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of Crampis as well. And if you look at some of these old cars,
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Crampis is a very very prevalent thing in East in Germany and Finland,
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Norway, places like that and sort of the northern climbs of Europe. Uh
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He's very prevalent there. But you know, the Crampis or something very similar
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to him, it was all the way to Spain. Uh So it's very
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prevalent, and it wasn't very well known here in this country until just a
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few years back that you know, people are talking about the Grampis, but
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he was very well known, especially in Germany and places like that. The
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complete opposite of Father Christmas. Oh yeah, I'll say, I'll say,
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because it goes from Saint Nicholas to a demon. I mean, whoa,
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that's the one in the yang, right I can. I'm going to be
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doing the show pretty show on my podcast about Santa Claus, the very many
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Santa signings. And here's what I say about Santa He was the first original
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superhero. Okay, and then if you look at it, the other way,
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Crampis is the very first super Okay, that's the way that goes.
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Oh wow, without that, how far back does Crampis go, Dennis,
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Do you know around the time that people started acknowledging Crampis medieval times? Definitely,
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it definitely goes back in day. He's been around as long as the
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legend of Santa Claus. Definitely, without a doubt. Like I said,
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he's the opposite of it. He goes and he sort of works. Here's
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the weird thing about it, Jessic, because he kind of works in conjunction
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with Santa Claus. You know, Santa is doing the good stuff and then
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the good kids. He's getting the bad kids and all that. So they
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they're sort of an uneasy alliance between them. It's very interesting in that respect.
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They say, yeah, that he didn't really work for Santa Claus,
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but like I said, they had an agreement. You might say, you
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take care of the good kids, and I don't think here the bad kids
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kind of thing. It sounds like the typical good cop bad cop. S
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Yeah, he's the demonic BD cop. Yeah right, Well, but Crampis
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if you look at him, if you look at his representation, I mean,
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this guy is a demon. Okay, that's what he basically is.
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He looks like a devil. Look at the horns. Uh. And and
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he may go back to, like you said earlier, being his half man
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half goat looking thing, because he has clothing hoofs, which is what the
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devil has too, supposedly, the old medieval aspect of the devil, he
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had clothing hoofs like a goat. That's why the symbol, a Satanic symbol
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is a goat, by the way, and that comes up from the Bible,
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you know, separating the sheep from the goats, the good guys from
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the bad guys, and then the goats got hu hung with the bad guys.
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Okay, if you take a look at him, does he not also
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remind you of something else, the god Pan, which was very well worshiped
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in a lot of Eastern Europe and places like that, along with Greece and
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other places as well. He reminds you very much of Pan. And we
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also talk you know, we've also talked a lot about the cryptid and on
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as the goat man, which I've often wondered if that isn't some kind of
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a fawn as they used to call it or a dryad type of a thing
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that lived in the forest, very much like the god Pan was supposed to
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be a nature spirit in other words, So here's an interesting tie in Jessica
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between the Crampus and the green Man. The green Man is sort of,
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you know, a spirit of nature as well, but he's very prevalent in
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the winter months, so you get a lot of tie in with that,
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and the green Man though it's very benevolent, not mynvolent, but benevolent.
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He's very good guy. He's sort of a guardian of the forest and stuff,
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but in winter he's depicted as having holly and ivy on him in thistletoe
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and all that, and a lot of this is very very paganistic and symbolic
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in that respect. But when I think of Crampas, I always think a
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little bit of Pan too, because there's a very very distinct similarity. Yeah,
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I do too. Now, we have looked into goat man on my
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shows before here at Space on Radio, I had Jason MacLean on one night
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and we talked about all the goat man sightings in Texas. There's so many
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goatmen over there, but there's been goatman sightings and reports and since the beginning
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of time. Okay, so this is just part I guess, it's just
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part of that genre, I guess, and just the goat man, even
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though we do have goat man sightings to this day. And as a matter
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of fact, I was assigned a remote viewing target of the Jersey Devil,
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okay, And actually I thought what I was looking at, because it was
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a blind target. I was actually looking at something that looked like a goat
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man. And that is a present day cryptid, okay, that we have
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here in the United States. Well, they're supposed to be Jessica, a
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Satanic connection with that, okay, you know, Mother Leeds and all that
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was supposedly had some kind of deal with the devil. But here's the interesting
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thing about the goat man, the tie in with the Satanic symbolism and all
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that, that the devil is supposed to appear as a half man, half
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goat. Sometimes that is called a baffle met by the way, and is
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a very prevalent Satanic symbol you see that of the Church of Satan and all
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that stuff. And so you're getting into some very demonical territory here. You've
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got a lot of smell sulfur going on here. Definitely, when you talk
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about these sounds of nies, especially one like the Grampus, he is very
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And here's another interesting thing, the tie in to where does he, like
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you said earlier, where does he take the kids when he kidnaps them?
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He takes somewhere Hell, and that's where he comes from. So that makes
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you very demonical without doubt. Yeah, that's pretty rough. I mean in
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some some of the places where I was researching this today and yesterday, because
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I didn't know a whole lot about Crampus and I had to be able to
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keep up with you tonight, Dennis, I had to try at least.
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And uh. And so I was reading that they weren't saying hell, and
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a lot of the articles I was reading and things they were saying the underworld.
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Okay, So I wasn't like hell, but there are a couple of
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articles I read it was it was hell, okay, but the underworld is
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hell basically, right. So but yeah, it just sounds worse to hear
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that you're they're dragging children to hell. Gosh, and you know, one
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of my one of my favorite Christmas movies. Now, okay, and I
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love good, good, wholesome, family, fun Christmas movies. But my
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son and I I know, I say, my son, he's just a
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kid. But uh, he wanted to watch Crampis movie. There's a new
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there's a Crampis movie. Oh yeah, and it was pretty terrifying. But
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it's such a great movie. And that's how I really learned about Crampis was
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from that movie last year or the year before. Lenus, I highly recommend
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that Crampis movie. I don't know which what it's called. It's called Crampus,
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I think, I think, yeah, I think that was the name
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of it, cramps. He goes after a whole family in that, and
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it's a very dysfunctional and very bad family and they kind of deserve it away
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what they get, you know. Uh, definitely. Uh. He is
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sort of a he's sort of a what you might say, a demonacle type
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cop in that respect, he's kind of enforcing certain precepts of the universe when
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he goes after these bad people trying to straighten them out. It's very interesting
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and the twist and the turn to it with Granpis. But here's one more
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thing about Crampus that we need to think about, and that is that he
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is depicted in the early days as being female for a certain extent, not
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that that didn't seem to catch on as much as the male grampas, but
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there was a female Grampus depiction. Well that was very interesting. So you
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always hear about goat, ma'am, and you hear about gold women women,
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you know, and that was very interesting Ipholt. Yeah, definitely. Wow.
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Okay, So from what I can what I can recall is that sometimes
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these characters like Crampus and it's like this in a lot of movies where people
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families get attacked and stuff, it's because they are It was almost like they
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got too much into the consumerism of Christmas in the holidays, okay, And
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that's how it is. It's like the moral of the story is it's all
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about the little things, not about buying stuff. It's about having your family
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surrounding you and to pay attention to your kids things like that. Definitely,
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if you disrespect Christmas, you can expect a visit from Grampus. That's the
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way that goes. So that's like I say, he's sort of an enforcer
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of the Christmas kind of a thing, you know, if you keep it
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straight and good the way it's supposed to be wholesome and all that. You
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don't have to worry about Grampus. But if you step out of line,
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you better watch your back. Yeah, you better, or you're gonna get
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hit with a stick. Now he seems pretty abusive, Dennis, pretty abusive.
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So he's actually not just putting kids in a basket and taking them to
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the underworld. He's hitting them with birch sticks and stuff. He's eating them
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alive. I mean, he's kindabalistic in that respect. And it's very much
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like and there's been some compassion drawn with Crampis to the wind to go in
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that respect. Although there are two completely different things, there are some similarities
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in the way these things work. And one more here's here's another little sideline
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for you. What if the Grinch and Crampus are our cousins at least?
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You know, uh, you got you got some kind of monsters. Ain't
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going on here with the Grinch and the Crampis? Was he the was crampis
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the inspiration for the Grinch? You gotta ask that question. Oh, that's
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a good question. I mean, I've actually heard people argue that the Grinch
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is actually a sasquatch or a bigfoot too. I don't know, tall Harry
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bipedal creatures, right, yeah, well as far as I know, though,
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I've never heard of a green fasquatch, but maybe there are some.
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You never know. But he is definitely a monster monster variety. You take
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a look at the Grinch, He's a monster, just like just like Crampis.
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Grandpas is not a good guy. He's he's basically his his his very
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nature is violent and bad, you know, and definitely it's going to be
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that. That's just what he is. Yeah. Instead of delivering, the
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Crampus takes away. Instead of giving, he gets, you know. And
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that's the interesting aspect of him. Like I said, he's a complete opposite
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of good old Saint Dick. He is. He's accounible, it's accountable,
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dude. Yeah, he is a cannibal. Gosh, you know, several
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cryptos that I've looked into seem to be cannibals, including even the giants.
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If you want to consider giant humanoids like the lily humans like the giant of
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Kandahar and the redheaded giants, they were cannibals. Now, this is so
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scary, and Crampis is so terrifying to some people that it was actually banned
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in Austria, Like celebrating Crampis was banned around nineteen thirty two. Well,
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what it was, Jessica. They would have parades of crampus. Parade people
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would dress upline cramps. They'd come through the streets rattling chains, shaking cowbells
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and making a very that was scared kids to death. Think about it.
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I mean that would traumatized children to a certain degree. And they would go
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through the crowds, you know, chasing children and grabbing children and all that.
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So then'tly they said, hey, that's you know, you're really stepping
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over the line here with this stuff. And you can understand where they're coming
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from that, because that would be very traumatical child to go through that.
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Look how many children get scared just sitting on Santa's lap think about the crampis.
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Well, how scary that would be. Yeah, I agree one hundred
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percent. You know, in the nineteen fifties, the government, I believe
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this was in Austria, they distributed pamphlests titled Crampis is an Evil Man for
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fear that encounters with Crampus might damage children's mental health, speaking of mental health
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for the kids. So but towards the end of the century, a popular
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reservance of Crampus celebrations kick back, uh, check back up. And now
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there's like parades all over the country. Now, I mean I actually was
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driving down the road this afternoon or this today, uh, and or maybe
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I guess it was jesuree it was yesterday and uh, and there was somebody
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dressed up like Crampis walking on this on the town square. Where in town
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do we live? We know? Uh, that's the interesting thing about it,
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Jessica. Uh. Uh, there is sort of a lot of people
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associate some parts of Christmas with horror. You know, you have the heart,
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you have different horror movies that you know, like Silent Night, Bloody
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Night, and all these other horror movies that they Christmas has a and I've
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talked about this before, Christmas has a dark side to it. Okay,
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it has a dark, magical, paganistic now uh, you know, kind
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of unnatural side to it, mystical kind of a feel to it. And
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some people find that enticing. You know that that entices some people. And
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of course we've always like it's just human to have fun, getting scared in
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a certain way, as long as you know that the that the scare,
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what's scaring you is not real or it's not gonna really fect you like a
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horror movie. But we enjoy getting scared, and I think that's kind of
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a sadistic part of our nature, you know. But but to force that
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on children is not good really, because children are very impressionable, you know,
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in that respect. I can see where grown ups would kind of,
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you know, like Crampus a little bit because of the scary part. But
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kids, you know, that's the interesting thing. You don't have to watch
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it with them, that's right. Okay. So when I was a little
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kid, I want some really cool aunts, my aunt's, my auntie's,
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my aunts, my dad's sisters, okay, And and when I would spend
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the night with their houses, I had a bunch of cousins. We were
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all about the same age, and we would spend the night at my grandparents'
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house, or I'd go to my cousins and my I'll never forget my aunts
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would tell stories that would scare us at night, scary stories. And and
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one of those stories that one of my aunts told me was about the devil
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living under the bed and that if I put my foot or my hand out
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of the blanket they would grab my feet at night. That devil was gonna
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grab my feet. So I was terrified, I mean terrified as a kid,
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Dennis, to this day, I still don't sleep with my feet outside
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the blankets. Okay, that is a that's a well known fear. Yes,
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definitely, the thing under the bed, you know, I saw it.
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I think it little picture the other day where somebody said, when you're
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asleep, you do not hang your seat off of the bed because then you
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in monster territory. So you gotta watch your feet and your hands go when
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you're in bed. But you know, here's the interesting thing about that,
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Jessica. I always find it kind of amusing. You know. You see
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people jump into the bed and cover their head up. They feel so safe,
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But that's the most vulnerable place you could be. You're not really saved
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there at all. And if there's something under your bed, what's gonna keep
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him there? He's gonna come out if you don't want to, that's right,
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universal Sue. Hey, Susan, this is my friend. Actually,
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Susan's on my team, my bigfoot team. She says, the underworld also
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represents the unconscious. That's a great point too, because we're talking about taking
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kids to the crampis takes kids into the underworld. Well, it's something that
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gets into their subconscious too, you know. So I don't know that it's
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a it's an interesting dynamic. Well you know, now, the the crampas
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equivalent in Spain actually naps and listen to this, this is weird. Actually
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kidnaps the children, the bad children, and takes them to his coal mine
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and makes them work in his coal mine, his slaves. Who oh gosh,
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that's weird. Cold. Yeah, what about you know, bad bad
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shoulder and get cold in their stockings? Right that, and there you go.
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That's where the cold comes from. Probably, but definitely you know.
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Uh, I'll put it this way, and that's what I said. I
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told this to somebody the other day. I'd rather sign and leave coal in
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my stocking than the cramp has come after me. Definitely. Uh. You're
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getting all easy with the cold people, Okay, yeah you are. You're
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not getting beaten and putting a sack or satchel. So wow, oh my
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gosh, Hey Darryl and Amory, Darryl James, these are my friends.
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I've got so many great people in the chat tonight. I want to thank
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everybody for being here. This is a this is it's a good time.
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So yeah, some people there Crampis is their favorite. I believe Amory said
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that Daryl that that's Daryl james'all. Yeah, he's been on our show before.
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He's on my show on my channel. But yeah, yeah, Crampis
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is a is A is a crowd favorite with a lot of people in US
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and uh and so many with all of these parades and the celebrations, people
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really get into character when it comes to Crampis. Yeah, especially when they
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start shaking those chains and then rattling those bells and all that. I mean,
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it really is very It's a sight and sound kind of thing. I
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was gonna say this about Crampas being depicted with such a long tongue. Demons
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are often depicted with very long times because that's the sign or symbol of a
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reptilian tongue, okay, and so that's part of the demonic symbolism there going
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on with that and the horns, okay, and being a monster hunter,
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I always look for a way that dispatched the monsters, and so we'll talk
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about that a little bit about how do you get rid of Grampa's if he
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shows up at your house. What you need to do to dispatch him.
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There's several different ways to do it, okay. And one of the main
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ways is how you take care of most supernatural creatures enterities, is that you
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burn them alive. You burn them up into ashes and scatter their ashes.
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You're not gonna have any more problem with them. That's that's the basic way
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to take care of them. The Crampis is a little bit different. There's
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several ways to get rid of the Crampis. Okay. The first way to
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really get rid of him he sort of take its power away from him without
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killing him. Okay, if you want to be very humanistic about it and
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then not be so mean and kill him. If you just want to take
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his power away from him, you cut his horns off. But I don't
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think he's going to stand there and let you do that, Okay, I
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don't know. That's gonna be kind of difficult to do. And cut his
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horns off definitely. Wow. Okay, So do you think that Crampis could
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ever have been based on something that was actually true or real Dennis or Garment
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his stories down through mankind of these these creatures supposed to live in the woods
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that we're having half man, half goat, or half orses and half man.
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There's always a symbolism of man being melded with the animal. That's the
28:03
way you wear little stories. A lot of these other things come from this
28:07
thing about mankind being part of the animals as well. I find that very
28:14
interesting psychologically that we would be afraid of something like that. It's very much
28:18
like the pictures and the movies from all the nineteen fifties with the giant ants
28:22
and grasshoppers and all that gigantic things scare us too. Okay, giants are
28:29
one of the big things. And another thing, though, is nature done
28:32
wild? Nature gone unusual and strange. And that's where the Crampas comes in.
28:38
He's sort of nature, a representation of nature, but he's also a
28:42
representation of the dark side of a supernatural, the natural and the supernatural that
28:49
get together. And he also looks here's the weird part, looks kind of
28:53
like a man a little bit. So you've got some weird stuff going on
28:59
with the ambus, you know, similarities, but like I said, it
29:03
goes back to penn was there serve certain types of sadders that they were called
29:08
or nymphs, that that had this attribute that they were part goat and part
29:15
men kind of thing. If you look at that picture right there, and
29:18
I find that very interesting, it's almost as you you stuck stuck a crampus
29:22
mask on the head of a bigfoot. That's right, that's right. A
29:29
lot of a lot of these like that. They have very long hair.
29:32
It looks like a demonic bigfoot. Actually, that's what that looks like,
29:38
I think. And I've done a show on this before about the wild man.
29:41
Okay, wild man is a legend all over the world. Every culture
29:45
talks about wild man, which may be a racial memory of the Neanderthals.
29:51
For all we know that that may have been pockets of them that were left
29:55
and our ancestors interacted with them. Anyway, the wild man is depicted very
30:00
much like that, have a lot of hair on him, you know,
30:03
and a very very wild looking looking face and all that to him. That
30:07
could be where a lot of the inspiration for the crapus came from the legends
30:12
of the wild men. And if anybody's interested in that, look it up.
30:17
As some very fascinating research on the wild Man. He's even depicted on
30:22
some medieval coats of arms. Uh, part of the world. Yeah,
30:30
really, well, what what kind of relationship does all this have? Cases
30:34
It's kind of has a paganistic base, right, Like it started off as
30:40
like a paganistic creature, I guess, but then it kind of bled into
30:45
like the Christian or the Catholic Church from what I was reading, uh somehow,
30:49
so, I mean it has it has some because of the I guess
30:52
because of Saint Nicholas. Right. Yeah, Well, you know, the
30:56
Church, the earlier church was just that way to assimilate a lot of paganistic
31:02
beliefs, and that happened a lot with Christmas definitely. But you know,
31:07
like I said earlier about the dark side of Christmas, there are other aspects
31:11
of Christmas that we need to consider it other than the Christian aspect of it.
31:15
But the Church tried to assimilate these things, and usually it was not
31:21
very successful at it. Uh, And and it became a very strange quasi
31:26
combination of paganistic and uh and religion thing Christianity. Uh. The interesting thing
31:33
about Crampus, if you look at him he's a personification of the devil.
31:38
Okay, basically that's what he is. And uh, the devil is taught
31:42
of course in religion. He's the bad guy. You don't want to end
31:45
up with him. He will take you to hell. Or you go to
31:48
hell with the devil, you're in a bad place. Uh. And that's
31:52
where the Grampus comes from. If I if you were to ask me what
31:55
the number one inspiration for Crampus would be deathly on the Christian devil. That's
32:04
no doubt exactly what that is. Yeah, no doubt. Somebody in the
32:07
chat earlier had mentioned the joker card in a in a deck of cards playing
32:14
cards. The joker card looks similar to Crampus the jokers. So that's that's
32:20
an interesting connection to you. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a lot of
32:25
represents. Like I said, he's not until about like maybe fifteen years ago,
32:30
you never heard about grampas researchers like me and people like you too,
32:35
we would have we would have stumbled across him eventually during the letter in our
32:38
research. And uh, he was very prevalent back in the eighteen hundreds,
32:44
especially as where you see a lot of these old cars and stuff from but
32:47
he comes way back from medieval times, and a lot of subletion on that.
32:52
But he was not well known until just a few years ago in this
32:55
country. Okay, but we had a lot at the beginning, like the
33:00
eighteen hundreds in this country, we had a lot of Germanic people's immigrate here,
33:06
a lot of people from Scandinavia. They settled mostly in the northern parts
33:10
of the United States, but some dramatic people settled in the sort of the
33:15
East coast as well, in Pennsylvania, places like that. So you had
33:20
a avalent knowledge of the Carampus, but nobody outside of those communities talked about
33:23
him that much until, of course, our mass age of communication to a
33:28
law, and then everybody picked up the Carampus. So he's a very popular
33:32
guy now thanks to that. Oh yeah, well, I wouldn't have known
33:37
a whole lot about it had I not seen that movie about Crampas. And
33:42
it was pretty scary because the creature Crampus was actually jumping on people's roofs,
33:49
and you could hear his hoofs walking on their roof and he would send little
33:54
trolls or some kind of like possessed toys down into the air ducts of the
34:00
through the chimney. He has Uh, he has al's just like Santa,
34:02
but they're bad els, goodls. Yeah, he has bad ales that help
34:07
him, helpers that help him out with that. And he also has some
34:10
demonic creatures that also supposedly help him with that. Here's the interesting thing about
34:16
grampis, how does he get in your house? He does the same thing
34:20
Santa Claus says. He comes down to your chimney, which is very interesting.
34:27
Uh so, uh. He has a lot of bad al's that help
34:29
him though, and they are here's it. Where does the crampis live,
34:35
Jessica in Hell? You know? You know he comes from the South Pole.
34:43
Okay, the opposite was from the North Pole. Okay, campus comes
34:49
from the South Pole. Yeah, but I think he visits he awful vacations.
34:52
I'm not sure about that. I have to ask him next time I
34:53
see it. Well, that would that would make sense that he would.
34:58
He would be the opposite of Santa. So everything is is opposite. It's
35:01
upside down, room right upside down, the complete opposite. Now. I
35:06
found this picture really interesting because it's almost it almost looks as though they've invited
35:12
Saint Nicholas and Crampus into this home. It looks like the mom. Mom's
35:15
a little weary, but dad's like, oh yeah, you know, take
35:19
our kid if you have to. He's been bad, okay the parent traditionally
35:24
are parents scared of crampis too throughout history or just the children. And you
35:31
can say by that drawing, those kids are kind of traumatized. The look
35:35
standing next to the Crampus, it's Santa Claus. Let's see all over there,
35:37
Father Christmas, Father, Christmas death. Moly. So they work and
35:43
get junction. Yeah, well okay, so but it's basically it's just a
35:47
story to kind of keep the kids in line, though, I guess you
35:51
could say it, yeah, basically, Yeah, that was well, there
35:53
was very much like a lot of other things that you know, if you
35:57
don't do this, the boogey man will get you kind of thing. I
36:00
know, you better be good, you don't bad things happened to bad children.
36:06
You know. They would tell you that very quickly, and you don't
36:08
want to know what those bad things are. Uh. They would scare you
36:13
into submission, definitely from doing stuff. And that was the way parents did
36:16
a lot of things back in those days. Parents still do that in different
36:20
ways nowadays. If you don't behave, I'll take your game away from you,
36:23
or whatever the case might be. Uh So it's still going on,
36:29
but just in a very different way. But I think the people back in
36:30
the old days were very maginative. Definitely would come over with Crampis and stuff
36:36
like that. Yes, and here's another way. Here's another way to kill
36:39
crampis. While I'm thinking about it, the other way to get rid of
36:43
Crampis is you must stab him through the heart with a holly steak or a
36:50
evergreen steak. That's the only way to put something like a vampire. That's
36:54
the only way to get take him down. But it has to be an
36:58
evergreen evergreen wood, or it can be in mistletoe as well, but mistletoe
37:04
doesn't make very big steaks, so you better stick with the holly or the
37:09
evergreen steak. Oh my gosh, that's interesting because holly trees and holly branches
37:16
are traditionally what magic wands are made out of, and so there's a connection
37:21
between Hollywood and holly sticks and the magic and magicians and all that kind of
37:27
stuff coming out of Hollywood. Hollywood, the wood of the Holly is considered
37:32
holy in a way a very you know, veneretted wood. Uh. And
37:37
so is the evergreen because it never dies, it stays green home, you
37:42
know, and symbolizes eternity, you know, living forever, immortality. Yeah.
37:50
Yes, Barbara Streisan had a song about evergreen and about love evergreen.
37:54
She wanted to love that was evergreen because it's I remember that very famous,
37:59
very famous Christmas song Tennenbaum, you know, the Bam Tennenbaum. You know.
38:04
Uh, it is a symbol that is a pagan symbol by the way
38:07
of eternity and life and fertility. Uh. It's tied into Easter in that
38:13
way. By the way, it's very strange Italian, but that was actually
38:19
the symbol of the God as Star or you listen to that name very closely,
38:23
this star and Easter, same thing. Okay, that's how I got
38:28
changed into that Easter. The original Easter had nothing to do with the crucifixion
38:34
of Christ. I all to do about the paganistic stuff fertility, gods and
38:40
stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So it
38:45
just it kind of adds like a whole other leader to the whole the whole
38:47
Christmas tradition. Having something a demon, you know, coming after kids now,
38:52
because we like to think, especially here in the United States of America,
38:57
we like to think of it as being Christmas being about the birth of
39:00
Jesus, Okay, for those who celebrate and for those even though for those
39:05
who don't, it's just the history behind it, of the tradition, and
39:08
it's the birth of Jesus Christ and being in that little tiny baby Jesus in
39:14
that manger under the star Beth Limb. Okay. However, you know,
39:21
the kids look forward to it because the Santa Claus bringing presents and yeah,
39:25
my son's never worried about crampis, I don't think before. Well, so
39:32
interesting thing about that, Jessica, We don't take crampis very seriously in this
39:37
country, but overseas they do and those other countries. He is a very
39:40
serious consideration. And that's that because here's the thing about it. Christmas is
39:46
built around traditions. You know. We ever family had this tradition. Every
39:52
culture has its traditions of Christmas. You know, Christmas almost died out.
39:57
If it hadn't been for Charles Dickens and a Christmas Girl, we would be
40:00
selling a very different Christmas now, Christmas was almost gone. And here's another
40:05
thing. The church, the early Church never pushed Christmas that much. It
40:09
was just considered a holy day that you had a church service on and that
40:14
was it. So all the traditions that we honored today were brought back to
40:20
life by Charles Dickens, by the way, because they almost died out.
40:24
And Crampus is part of that tradition in certain countries more so than here,
40:30
although it's beginning to slowly catch on here, but we're not taking it as
40:34
serious in modern days as they did in medieval times. But he was the
40:39
personification of the Christmas demon and if you didn't do what you were supposed to
40:45
do, if you weren't good, if you were bad, and you had
40:50
to worry about him because he was coming to see you if you weren't careful.
40:55
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Like I said, I wonder
41:00
if I should put the fear of Crampis into my kid this year. I
41:02
don't know. He probably his laugh about it. He thinks it's fun.
41:07
So John has an interesting statement tonight, or a question where does the tradition
41:12
of leaving food offerings from Santa come from? That sounds like fairy Moore to
41:15
me, actually there's a connection with that to Odin, the god Odin,
41:21
the Viking god. Yeah, they would actually leave things out for Odin,
41:28
and Odin has a big, strong connection to Santa Claus. Okay, the
41:32
Santa Claus we know is not really the same one that Saint Nicholas, and
41:37
who was really a Greek by the way, the real true Saint Nicholas was
41:40
a Greek. But the Santa Claus we know, the Santa Claus as his
41:46
name was pronounced, is really connected to the god Odin. He would leave
41:51
offerings to the gods to get their favor, you know. And one of
41:57
those chief gods you wanted on your side was Oldin, the Boss, the
42:02
Boss or the other gods. So you would leave it times out. And
42:06
that's where they also would do that with the wooden shoes. You know,
42:07
the Dutch children of the wooden shoes, and they so they don't have stockings
42:13
there, they have wooden shoes, and they would get their presence in the
42:15
wooden shoes. But that was where that really originates from the offering to the
42:21
gods. Man, you can't fit as many toys and candy into a wooden
42:24
shoe as you can a big old stocking. See, I think like a
42:29
kid. I got to think about how much we can shove in those stockings
42:31
over there. Okay for front stuff, now I do. Okay. So
42:36
somebody in the chat had a really interesting statement and it said Satan's cause instead
42:42
of Santa Claus Le's see if I can find that, they said Satan's I
42:46
think it was Ron. I'm trying to find it, y'all here it is
42:50
Ron, Hey, Ron, Satan's class. So Santa is an anagram can
42:55
be an anagram for Satan Satan? What do you think about that? Dennis?
43:00
Well, Actually, the name Santa is really pronounced Santa s I n
43:06
d A. Santa clause means actually, if you go back to the actual
43:12
root of the word, uh, it means Saint Nicholaus Claus St. Nicholas.
43:19
That's where that really comes from. I don't know about this anagram without
43:22
Saytan, that's kind of a far stretch, but it is. Actually the
43:27
name means Saint Nicholas is what he really means. But that's the way they
43:31
pronounce it, Santa Claus, Saint Nicholas. Okay, very interesting, Okay,
43:37
cool, Yeah, that's that's cool. I just I just put it
43:42
out there because I I just Saint Nick lived in Turkey, but he was
43:47
Greek, he was of Greek extraction. I have a friend in Greece,
43:52
and I say that, you know, we well we've got Santa Claus,
43:55
but you had him first. Okay, I don't I can't remember if I
44:01
brought this subjet or night. Okay. But in some of the old artwork
44:07
of Crampus, Crampis is actually on down down on a knee, proposing to
44:10
women. Okay, what is that about? Why why would he be depicted
44:15
proposing to women? Almost like it's sort of the interesting thing about Satan.
44:24
Uh he is known to be a seducer of women. Okay, that was
44:29
sort of there, and that was sort of their weakness, you might say,
44:32
And that was the way they looked at it, that women could be
44:35
seduced easier than men, which is not true, but that's what they believed.
44:39
And uh so that you said you had to if you were a woman,
44:44
you had to really really watch out for Satan because he tricked the first
44:49
woman he so you were still you know, fertile brown for him. So
44:53
you had to be very careful when he came to the devil if you were
44:57
a woman, especially, Oh my god, gosh, how'd your kids?
45:00
How'd your wife? Right, it's a watch out, watch out for Trampis.
45:06
Yeah, yeah, so better lock those doors on Christmas night just in
45:10
case just engaged Trampis comes in. You don't want him to go hit a
45:15
life. Okay, that's a true But now, Saint sat Nicholas is actually
45:21
the patron saint of sailors, policemen and children. Of course St. Nicholas
45:28
is a true person. He really did live. And let me tell you
45:30
real quick. Why ain't got a thing forgives? Okay? He actually was
45:35
a very He was a very wealthy man. He was blessed with wealth and
45:38
he wanted to share his wealth. He was a very godly man. And
45:43
he found out about this man who had three daughters. This poor guy,
45:46
he was very poor farmer. His farm was failing him. He had his
45:50
three very pretty daughters and he was going to sell them into prostitution, oh,
45:54
to make money. Yeah, and well Saint Nicholas heard about this,
46:00
Okay, so he dropped three bags of gold, once for each of the
46:04
daughters down the chimney and something I know that they went, they got into
46:07
their stockings that were hanging by the chimney, and the bags of gold were
46:12
found on Christmas Day in the stockings, and that's where all that began.
46:16
Santa Claus and the chimney and all that. Uh. He supposedly saved them
46:21
from being sold into slavery a prostitution. He was a very good man in
46:27
that respect. He wanted to Here's the thing about Santa Claus or Saint Nicholas.
46:31
He represents the goodness in people's heart of wanting to give instead of receiving.
46:39
Crampus. On the other hand, he gets, he receives. He
46:45
doesn't want to give, he receives, and you don't want him to receive
46:49
you without doubt, No, no, absolutely not. We hat him.
46:54
So many people in the chat today we're talking about they're talking about Elf on
46:58
the Shelf and Snoop on the story. Yes, he's not my Elf on
47:02
the shelf. I think he may be a FBI or c I a plan.
47:07
Okay, I'm not too sure about that. I'm checking on it.
47:09
Are you serious? The Elf on the shelf he's helping sand on something or
47:15
other. I know that. And Santa may be the secret end. Let's
47:17
see I a I'm not you Yeah, well okay, so beater and a
47:23
tater right. Well, you know the ELFs that come with the Elf on
47:27
the shelf that that does come. And we have an Elf on the shelf
47:30
here that shows up at my house every year, and and it really is
47:35
a good spy. They're actually spies. A lot of people said, he's
47:39
very creepy looking. He's sitting there staring and watching you all. Do you
47:45
kind of creaks you out a little bit. Yeah, but it but it
47:47
actually does help, just like cramp Us, the Elf on the shelf will
47:52
help kids straighten up, shape up or ship out. Okay, that's what
47:55
my parents used to say, shapeoverer, ship out because Santa Claus is coming
48:00
and if you are not and if you don't behave that ELF's gonna see and
48:04
going to report back to Santa. It's a snitch you. My son always
48:08
says, snitches get stitches. Okay, whenever that el shows up. So
48:15
but yeah, he'll be he'll be enter the thread of trampis this year to
48:19
well, I suppose according to Christian Christmas tradition, the l's help Sanna spying
48:25
on the kids. Okay, Sanna can't be everywhere. It once although I
48:30
said he was the original superhero. Okay, the guy could do it all.
48:34
H that was way before Superman or Batman or you might show that there
48:37
was Santa Claus. Okay, well he is l. That was part of
48:42
their job. They wore to watch little kids, found kids and make sure
48:45
who was naughty or who was nice. Well, the crampis also has l's
48:50
doing that. They're the bad L's and they're watching the bad kids and they're
48:54
reporting by the Crampus. Okay, folks, so you want to watch out.
49:00
Oh yeah, yes, Well it's a fun it's a fun tradition to
49:04
have these elves out here, and and it's a I mean, I'm assuming
49:07
it's a fun tradition to have Crampus over there. In the different countries,
49:12
I mean, there's certain there are certain countries that celebrate Crampus a little bit
49:15
more than others, I guess, or to acknowledge crampis. I think it's
49:19
more Austria, Bavaria, like in Germany and stuff, Bosnia, Herzegovina,
49:24
Croatia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, and northern Italy. That's
49:30
my that's my Also there's also Christmas Wish in northern Italy, by the way,
49:37
so then I think her name is a very strange tradition. Also,
49:40
I mentioned earlier in Spain, Crampus is actually not called Crampus in Spain,
49:46
is called black Peter and uh, and it's actually been culturally counseled now because
49:55
people would actually show up in blackface and be him in paraides and stuff,
50:00
and of course that was very racist, and so they stopped doing that.
50:05
But black Peter was called that because he was supposed to be a more who
50:08
would row a boat over to Spain and kidnap little bad kids and take them
50:15
back and work them in his coal mine. And he was also called black
50:19
Peter because of course he had black coal dust all over him as well.
50:23
But he's kind of counseled now because he was kind of a racist symbol.
50:28
People were doing the black faced things of the parade and all that, so
50:30
they stopped that now, so he may be called Crampus from now on in
50:35
Spain. I guess, well that kind of sucks. I'm just saying.
50:38
I know he was covered in soot, Okay, so I know, we're
50:42
just we live in a different world, different culture, different you know.
50:49
So yeah, it's you know, it is what it is. It is
50:52
what it is. That's the worst thing ever to get covered in soot.
50:55
By the way, Look look who else is covered in soot? Pantaclaus he
51:00
comes down. Of course, there's the other similarity as well. That's right.
51:07
Crib Deville has a good point too, heye, crimp Deville. Uh,
51:09
he says, interesting connection to the whole child abduction thing and other stuff
51:13
going on today. That's a great thing. Yeah, I've also heard correlation
51:19
between that and alien abduction as well. Uh, what's going on with that,
51:22
you know, is that here's the interesting thing just go about that,
51:28
uh, the fairy abduction of the crampus, subductions and stuff like that.
51:32
And you could also look upon crampus as being some type of a fairy like
51:37
creature as well, or the fay. But here's the interesting correlation between that
51:42
and alien abduction. We have that now in the modern world. Alien abduction
51:46
and stuff like that, and even child abduction going on with all these you
51:51
know, rings that are kidnapping children. You've got that going on in the
51:54
world day. So now it's no longer fairies and Grampus is gone, grab
51:59
you. There could be some loty worse in that respect, That's right.
52:04
Yeah, I mean I always say I'm I'm a little more concerned about humans
52:07
today than I am cryptids. Okay, there you go. Yeah, we
52:13
live in a really crazy world, really crazy world right now. So that
52:16
you know, I said not long ago on my podcast, we grew up
52:20
as kids watch watching monster movies and knowing about the monsters rigging sign and all
52:25
the rest of them. And but we grew up to find out one very
52:29
startling fact. There are the monsters are real, but they are us,
52:36
and that's what we have to really watch out for. We are we are
52:38
the embodiment of Saint Nicholas in Crampus. It depends on it depends on if
52:44
I have my coffee in the morning. I could be crampus. I could
52:46
be cramped. I canna be crabby, but uh yeah, but not,
52:52
I don't. I don't like to see myself as being demonic if I hadn't
52:53
had coffee. Okay, it's not that bad. Your cramp is till you
52:58
get the coffee and then your cycle. That's right, that's right. Yeah,
53:02
this side, this is a physical here here's a big thing. It
53:07
been a parapsychologist. I like to look at what this effect has on the
53:12
human mind. Okay. And here's the interesting thing, the symbolism going on
53:16
here. Okay, look at the good attributes of Santa Claus versus the Crampus.
53:22
Okay, those are really personifications of human nature. There's a good side
53:30
of us, and there's a bad side of us. There's a Santa side
53:34
of us, and there's a Crampus side of us. So let's hope that
53:37
we keep the Santa side on the top, okay, where it needs to
53:43
be, and not the other way around. Yeah, it's some there's always
53:46
an it seems like an inversion or something to it, so which we have
53:52
not really recognized here in the United States where we live. But however,
53:55
we have people from all over the world in our chat right now. I'm
53:59
pretty sure we have. I don't see Jorgan in here tonight, okay,
54:01
but we have people from all over that watch our shows, that tune into
54:05
Space Out Radio every every night, every weekend, every weekday. And uh,
54:09
and so I'm sure there's some people that grew up fearing Crampus when they
54:14
were kids that are watching this, Dennis, And uh, and I am
54:16
just very thankful. I was not one of those very very thankful. So
54:23
yeah, well, oh my gosh, Dennis, this is crazy. We've
54:28
come to the end of the hour almost do we have? It goes by
54:32
so fast when we're having fun, it really does. It does. Final
54:38
thoughts on crampis. And because I know that you went over, how we
54:44
can you know, get rid of crampis? And I've never heard that before.
54:47
This is brand new information. Uh. It's a number real, number
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one way, the number one way to keep crampus out of your house.
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Okay, if you're if you're worried about Grampus, show it up. Uh.
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Is mistletoe hung over your doors okay, the front and your back doors
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or how many doors you have, always hang mistletoe over him. It's a
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venerated holy wood is supposedly Crampus hates it, okay, without a doubt.
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And if you have that hanging in your house, you probably won't get a
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visit from him. Okay, So go get you some mistletoe, get some
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missletoe, and stay locked and loaded. Kidding, but it's not only just
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for kissing other Okay, it's keep it out crampus as well. Oh my
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gosh, it is. Okay, So mistletoe is a great way to keep
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crampus away, amplus, I mean he won't he won't come into your house.
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You don't have kids, right right, Yeah, hopefully if you've got
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kids, though, you might be open territory for him if you don't careful.
55:52
But the mistletoe, actually, mistletoe is against all evild spirits, and
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crampus is definitely in e old spirit. I always keep mistletoe over my doors.
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It's sort of a safeguard there. But yeah, definitely, it's not
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just for kissing anymore. It's for grampus. Keep it out crampas Yeah,
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getting out, getting that Hollywood stick, the Hollywood and yeah, you got
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to fight back with these things, okay. And you're you're also a demonologist
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dentist, so I thought this was a really cool topic for you to come
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on here tonight to talk about because you deal with demonology and and people who
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are possessed and things like this. So great, great discussion tonight, Dennis.
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I appreciate you being here tonight. Oh my pleasure always very much.
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So I yeah, well, I have a kid, so I got to
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worry about Crampis now. Okay, just a little bit, so Dennis,
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tell the audience tonight where they can find you, and tell everybody about your
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your YouTube channel and your podcast. Okay, well, you can reach me
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if you got some crampas stores or whatever you on the discuss. You can
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reach me at DENNISW. Carol dot com or you can email me at Dennis
57:07
W. Carol at gmail dot com. And I'm on Demology Today every Sunday
57:14
night with Good Secris at nine o'clock PM Eastern Standard Time. I'm also on
57:19
every Wednesday night at nine o'clock PM Eastern Tender Time on Hunting the Shadows.
57:24
And i also have another podcast that I have every Friday night at eight o'clock
57:30
called Paranormal point of View. Yes, amazing shows too. I really enjoy
57:37
watching all your shows, and I really enjoy it when you come on and
57:39
hang out with me, Dennis. That's my favorite. Actually, when you're
57:43
enjoying Yes, thank you. We have some great discussions and talk about some
57:47
really cool stuff. So Dennis, thank you so much for being here.
57:51
Everybody, please go over to Hunting the Shadows on YouTube and please subscribe and
57:58
check out Dennis. Okay, Dennis, have a wonderful Christmas. If I
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don't see you again here at space Out Radio, please have a wonderful,
58:05
happy holiday. And thank you for coming on and telling us how to get
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rid of crampus. You're the best, Dennis. Thank you. Okay,
58:14
have a great night. Thanks Dennis. Okay, y'all, Oh my gosh,
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what a cool show. Okay, we had. We had to throw
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crampus in there before the end of the year. I just have a couple
58:23
of more shows here at space out Radio before the end of the year,
58:27
and I wanted to make an announcement tonight. I am going to be on
58:31
space out Radio one night a weekend from here on out. I'm going to
58:36
be doing Sunday nights here off the Trails on space out Radio. Okay.
58:39
I have a bunch of brand new projects that I'm working on, and I'm
58:44
expanding my horizons a little bit. And and so I'm going to be here
58:49
every Sunday night with you guys for a while, okay. And and so
58:52
I just wanted to let you guys know, you know, and I'll be
58:55
doing more shows on my channel too, Okay, So you guys go,
58:59
if you haven't already Please go over to the Cryptid Huntress on YouTube. Please
59:02
subscribe over there so you guys can always follow along with all of my shows.
59:07
And uh yeah, you'll find me there. I've got some I got
59:09
some other announcements. I'm not gonna make them tonight, but I got some
59:13
other stuff that's about to be coming up to So, So this is my
59:16
last Saturday night here at Space Out Radio, but I will be here tomorrow
59:20
night. Tomorrow night, we have Rod Nichols of Bear County. Bigfoot is
59:24
gonna be on here. He's been featured on Small Town Monsters and The dog
59:29
Man Triangle, okay, And and so we're gonna be talking about Texas Bigfoot
59:32
in Texas dog Man. He's had encounters with both. Okay. So we
59:37
have a super awesome show tomorrow night for you guys lined up. And I
59:40
can't wait to come back here and see you guys again. I hope you
59:45
guys have a wonderful night. Please stay safe out there, y'all. And
59:47
and I hope you learned as much as I did tonight about the Christmas Demon.
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Okay, Well, y'all have a great night and h and I'll see
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all tomorrow. Bye,