Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Nicky Verstappen Cold Case Murder Ends in Jail after 22 years
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back for another deep dive.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Always exciting to be back.
- 0:05Speaker 1: And this one is pretty heavy.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Yeah. So today we're going to be looking at the
- 0:12Nicki ver Stappin case.
- 0:14Speaker 2: It's a case that I think really highlights, you know,
- 0:18just how much forensic science has advanced, Yeah, and how
- 0:21those little details can really make or break a case.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Especially like in a cold case like this.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And this one involved a huge DNA effort.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Huge.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really fascinating.
- 0:31Speaker 1: So for our listeners who maybe aren't familiar with this case, Gil,
- 0:35you give us a little bit of background.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we're going back to August of nineteen ninety eight. Okay,
- 0:40and eleven year old Nicki ver Stappin is attending a
- 0:43summer camp in the Netherlands.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Okay, idyllic summer camp kind.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Of thing, right, exactly, like you know, beautiful countryside, should
- 0:49be a care free, fun time, right, And he vanishes,
- 0:52poof gone. Yeah, early one morning, around five thirty am.
- 0:56He's last seen. And then no one can find him,
- 0:59and they find his shoes. We'll find his shoes by his.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Tent, neatly placed near his tent. No signs of a struggle,
- 1:06no footprints leading away.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like what happens?
- 1:10Speaker 1: It's really bizarre.
- 1:11Speaker 2: But to make it even more eerie, they find his
- 1:14pajama bottoms. Oh he inside out and backwards.
- 1:18Speaker 1: That's a detail that really stood out to investigators.
- 1:21Speaker 2: What kid is doing that?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it suggests that somebody redressed him, potentially after removing
- 1:27him from somewhere else.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Yeah, because why would you take the time to do that?
- 1:30Speaker 1: Exactly?
- 1:30Speaker 2: Unles you're trying it, like, I don't.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Know, right, it's a very strange detail.
- 1:34Speaker 2: It's very strange. And also I read that the soles
- 1:37of his feet were clean.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that was another thing that was really unusual.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you'd wandered off in the woods, you'd.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Expect to see some dirt or debris, but his feet
- 1:46were very clean. So it's like, Okay, was he carried?
- 1:48Was he transported?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Yeah? How did he get there? And then tragically, the
- 1:52next evening his body is.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Found Yeah, over a kilometer away from the camp.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's definitely been moved.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Right, And this is where the mist really deepens because
- 2:01there's no clear cause of death initially, oh wow, but
- 2:06there are signs of possible sexual abuse.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Ugh, okay, so this is already so much to unpack, right,
- 2:12and on top of that, there were delays in getting
- 2:15a full post mortem examination. Oh no, why.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I think there were some issues with the availability of
- 2:22medical examiners at the time.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Oh so, just like a logistical thing.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and that unfortunately hampered the investigation early on.
- 2:30Speaker 2: That's so frustrating because you know they need that information exactly.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Time is of the essence in these cases, and those
- 2:37early delays really had a ripple effect.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So they have this little boy's body, they know something
- 2:42terrible has happened, right, but they don't know how he died.
- 2:46And to make things even more frustrating, they do have
- 2:49DNA evidence at the scene.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Do they find a tissue with semen and a discarded cigarette?
- 2:54But so close, so close. But this is where we
- 2:57see the limitations of DNA technology.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Back then, this is the late nineties.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Exactly, DNA analysis primarily relied on direct matches.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Right, so they're comparing it against their database exactly no
- 3:08matches at the time time for a while, So what
- 3:10do they do? They just have to sit on this information.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Well, they basically have to wait for technology to catch up.
- 3:16So frustrating, and luckily it did.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me more about that, because I know
- 3:20this case is famous for that.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Right. So as the years went by, this revolutionary technique
- 3:25called familial DNA searching emerged.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've heard this, but explain it to me
- 3:30like I'm five, because I don't really get it.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Oh. So, basically, imagine you have a DNA sample from
- 3:35a crime scene, but it doesn't match anyone in the
- 3:38existing databases.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Okay.
- 3:40Speaker 1: With familial DNA searching, you can compare that sample to
- 3:44the DNA profiles in the database looking for partial matches. Okay,
- 3:48that might indicate a familial link like a sibling, parent,
- 3:51or even a distant cousin.
- 3:52Speaker 2: So it's not an exact match, but it's like a
- 3:54close enough match to say, hmm, this might be related precisely. Wow.
- 3:58Speaker 1: And in the Nikki Verstaven case, this was huge.
- 4:01Speaker 2: So they were able to go back to that DNA
- 4:03evidence exactly.
- 4:04Speaker 1: In twenty ten, the Dutch law changed allowing for familial
- 4:08DNA searching. Okay, and this opened up a whole new
- 4:11avenue of investigation.
- 4:13Speaker 2: So they're going back to that tissue sample and that
- 4:15cigarette butt.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Exactly and they launched this massive DNA dragnet.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Oh wow, how massive are we talking.
- 4:20Speaker 1: They appealed to the public, asking men who had been
- 4:24in the vicinity of the summer camp at the time
- 4:26to voluntarily provide DNA samples. Wow.
- 4:29Speaker 2: So they're basically casting a wide net hoping to find
- 4:32somebody related to the person who left that DNA exactly. Wow.
- 4:36And how many people ended up giving.
- 4:37Speaker 1: DNA over fourteen thousand men.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Volunteered fourteen thousand.
- 4:41Speaker 1: It was a huge effort.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. And they found something.
- 4:45Speaker 1: They did after meticulous analysis, they found a partial DNA match.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Okay. So they get this partial match, and who does
- 4:51it lead to.
- 4:52Speaker 1: It leads them to a man named Josbrick.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Okay, and who is Jessbrick.
- 4:56Speaker 1: He was a survivalist and kind of interestingly, he had
- 4:59vanished earlier that year, shortly after Nicky's disappearance.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Danish like he just went off the grid.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very suspicious, very suspicious. Okay.
- 5:07Speaker 2: So they've got this guy, they know he was in
- 5:08the area, he's now disappeared, right, they have a DNA match,
- 5:12even if it's partial. What happens next, Well, they have
- 5:14to find him first, right, because he's vanished exactly.
- 5:17Speaker 1: He had fled to Spain.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Okay, so he's on the run.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but thankfully a Dutch tourist recognized him from a
- 5:25photo that had been circulated in the media.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Oh wow, So like he was out and about in
- 5:29Spain and somebody recognized him exactly.
- 5:32Speaker 1: The tourist tipped off authorities and Brush was finally apprehended.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Wow, so after twenty years, they finally have a suspect
- 5:40in custody. Right, but did he confess?
- 5:43Speaker 1: Not quite. He offered a defense that was uh, what
- 5:47was it? Well, let's just say it raised a lot
- 5:48of eyebrows.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Okay, spill the tea. I want to know what he said.
- 5:51Speaker 1: He claimed that he had just stumbled upon Nicky's body
- 5:54while he was out on a walk, and he tried
- 5:56to help, tried to help, Okay, yeah, he said he
- 5:58had straightened Nicky's clothes, but then panic and fled the.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Scene street and his close I mean, come.
- 6:03Speaker 1: On, it's a very hard story to believe.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and I imagine investigators were like, uh huh, sure.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Well, they found it highly improbable, especially considering that Bredg
- 6:11had a history of sexual offenses involving minors.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Okay, so this stumbled upon the body defense. Did his
- 6:19past make people less likely to believe him?
- 6:22Speaker 1: I think it definitely raised serious doubts. You see, in
- 6:24cases like this, a suspect's past behavior often becomes a
- 6:29key part of the narrative.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Right, And you know, we always say we can't judge
- 6:32someone based on their past, but right, of course, it's
- 6:34hard to ignore.
- 6:35Speaker 1: It's hard to ignore, especially when their explanation of events
- 6:38seems so implausible.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Right, and fleeing the scene. I mean, if you find
- 6:42a child's body, you're not just going to tidy up
- 6:45and run.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Away, exactly. Your first instinct is to call for help.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he flees to Spain.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Right, that just adds another layer of suspicions.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it seem like he was trying to
- 6:54evade justice exactly. Can you imagine what Nicky's family was
- 6:57going through at this point.
- 6:58Speaker 1: It must have been such a roller coaster of emotions
- 7:01after twenty years of unanswered.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Questions, finally they have a suspect. But it's still not over.
- 7:05Speaker 1: No, the journey to justice was far from over.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Before we get into the trial, can we talk a
- 7:10bit more about Bretsch you mentioned he was a survivalist.
- 7:13What does that even mean.
- 7:14Speaker 1: So survivalist is someone who actively prepares for emergencies or disasters.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Okay, so like doomsday preppers kind of thing.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Kind of. Yeah. They often acquire skills like wilderness navigation,
- 7:27first aid, self sufficiency.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Okay, so they're like really into being self reliance exactly.
- 7:32Speaker 1: They often have a deep distrust of societal structures and
- 7:35believe in being able to fend for themselves.
- 7:38Speaker 2: So that explains why he was comfortable living off the.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Grid, right, and some experts believe that this mindset may
- 7:44have contributed to his ability to evade capture for so long.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Right, he was familiar with remote areas, he knew how
- 7:50to blend in exactly. So he was like a ghost basically,
- 7:53no way. Yeah, it makes that tourists to even more incredible.
- 7:56Speaker 1: It was a pivotal moment, a real needle in a
- 7:58haystack situation.
- 8:00Speaker 2: It really shows the power of public awareness.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Absolutely, Sometimes even the most elusive individuals could be brought
- 8:06to justice with the help of vigilant citizens.
- 8:09Speaker 2: So they've got Bretch, they've got DNA evidence, a history
- 8:13of offenses, and a suspects story. What happens next.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Well, the case goes to trial and it was highly publicized.
- 8:19Speaker 2: I bet the whole country was watching.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Not pretty much. The prosecution presented a compelling case. They
- 8:24emphasized the DNA evidence, Bruch's suspicious behavior, and his past defenses.
- 8:30Speaker 2: And what about Breech's defense, what do they argue?
- 8:34Speaker 1: His defense team maintained his innocence. Of course, they argued
- 8:37that the DNA evidence was circumstantial and didn't prove he
- 8:40had killed Nickki.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Okay, so they're trying to poke holes in the prosecution's
- 8:44case exactly.
- 8:45Speaker 1: They claimed that the prosecution was relying on bridges past
- 8:48to paint him as a.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Monster, and that the evidence didn't support their narrative.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Right, they were trying to create reasonable dabt.
- 8:54Speaker 2: So what did the jury think? Did they buy it?
- 8:58Speaker 1: The verdict was, Uh, it was complicated. Oh no, how
- 9:02so the court acquitted Breeches manslaughter. What they accepted the
- 9:06possibility that Nikki's death could have been unintentional, possibly from
- 9:10being suffocated during abuse.
- 9:11Speaker 2: So they're saying it could have been an accident in
- 9:14a way.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were very clear that Breech's actions led
- 9:17to Nicki's death.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So acquitted of manslaughter, but they're saying he's still responsible.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Right. He was found guilty of kidnapping and sexual abuse
- 9:24charges directly linked to Nicki's death.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Oh wow.
- 9:27Speaker 1: He was sentenced to twelve and a half years in.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Prison, which he appealed. Of course.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Of course, I.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Can't imagine how Nicki's family felt about that verdict.
- 9:35Speaker 1: It must have been such a mix of emotions. Relief
- 9:38that he was held accountable, but also disappointment that the
- 9:42crowhen of intent remained unanswered.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Right, because was it an accident or was it something
- 9:47more sinister?
- 9:48Speaker 1: Exactly? And this case just had so many layers, so
- 9:51many interpretations of the evidence.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And speaking of layers, the story doesn't end there.
- 9:55Speaker 1: You're right. This case is a reminder that justice can
- 9:58be a long and winding row. In twenty twenty two,
- 10:02the appeals court took another look at the evidence. Okay,
- 10:04and they actually convicted Breach of manslaughter.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Wow, so they overturned the original verdict.
- 10:09Speaker 1: They did. They saw his actions not as a tragic accident,
- 10:12but as a deliberate act that led to Nicky's death.
- 10:15Speaker 2: So just as prevailed, but it was delayed, Yes.
- 10:18Speaker 1: And his sentence was increased to sixteen years.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Wow, that's a long time. It's hard to imagine what
- 10:23those years of waiting must have been like for Nicky's family.
- 10:26Speaker 1: It must have been incredibly difficult.
- 10:28Speaker 2: But there's another piece to this story, right that kind
- 10:30of kept this case in the spotlight.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about Peter Artevrez.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yeah, the legendary Dutch crime reporter. He was like a
- 10:37bulldog with this case.
- 10:38Speaker 1: He was incredibly dedicated to keeping Nicki's story alive.
- 10:41Speaker 2: He was more than just a reporter. He was an
- 10:43advocate for Nicky's family.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Absolutely, he wanted to make sure that the case never
- 10:47faded from public memory.
- 10:48Speaker 2: And do you think that his involvement maybe helped push
- 10:52for those DNA advances.
- 10:54Speaker 1: It's certainly possible. He was known for his investigative work
- 10:57and his ability to put pressure on authorities.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't a ready to ruffle some feathers.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Not at all. And I think his relentless pursuit of
- 11:04the truth definitely played a role in keeping this case
- 11:07in the spotlight.
- 11:08Speaker 2: But sadly, his pursuit of justice came at a high cost.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Yes, in a cruel twist of fate, he was assassinated
- 11:15in twenty twenty one.
- 11:16Speaker 2: It was a huge shock.
- 11:17Speaker 1: It was a reminder of the dangers that people like
- 11:20him face when they challenged the dark side of society.
- 11:23Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking, you know. He dedicated his life to fighting
- 11:26for justice and then then.
- 11:28Speaker 1: He becomes a victim himself.
- 11:29Speaker 2: But even though he's gone, his legacy lives on.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Absolutely. His work on this case and countless others shows
- 11:35the power of investigative journalism and the importance of speaking
- 11:39truth to power.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a true champion for the voiceless.
- 11:42Speaker 1: He was, and his work helped bring some closure to
- 11:46Nicki's family.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It makes you wonder what would have happened if he
- 11:48hadn't been involved.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but I think his dedication was
- 11:53instrumental in keeping this case alive and ultimately getting justice
- 11:58for Nicki.
- 11:59Speaker 2: So it's like this common of human determination and scientific
- 12:02progress that finally led to the truth.
- 12:04Speaker 1: It's a powerful reminder that even in the darkest of cases,
- 12:08hope and justice can prevail.
- 12:10Speaker 2: And I think that's a good place to leave it
- 12:12for now.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Yeah, we've covered a lot of ground.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Today, we have, but this case it's not just about
- 12:16one boy's tragic fate.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Right, it raises so many questions about child safety and
- 12:21the need for vigilance.
- 12:22Speaker 2: And we'll be back after a quick break to delve
- 12:25into those questions and see what lessons we can learn
- 12:27from this tragedy. Okay, so we're back, and you know,
- 12:31we've talked about all the details of Nicky's case, but
- 12:34now I kind of want to look at the bigger picture.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Absolutely, what can we learn from this tragedy.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the biggest takeaways is that,
- 12:41you know, predators can be anywhere.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:43Speaker 1: We often think of summer camps as these safe havens.
- 12:46Speaker 2: For kids, right, idyllic, you know, exactly.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but this case shows that even in those seemingly
- 12:52safe environments, children can be vulnerable.
- 12:56Speaker 2: It's a scary thought, right.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely unsettling.
- 12:59Speaker 2: So we can't just assume that kids are safe just
- 13:01because they're in a supervised setting.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Exactly. We need to be proactive, we need to be vigilant,
- 13:07and we need to constantly evaluate our safety measures.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And I think it's not just about physical safety, right, Oh,
- 13:12absolutely not. It's also about creating environments where kids feel
- 13:15empowered to speak up if something feels wrong.
- 13:17Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. We need to teach children about body safety,
- 13:21about appropriate boundaries, and about how to recognize and report
- 13:25any behavior that makes them feel uncomfortable.
- 13:27Speaker 2: And that goes for adults too.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Right, Oh, absolutely, we need to be educated as well.
- 13:31Speaker 2: We need to know the warning signs of grooming behavior.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Right, those subtle ways that predators manipulate and gain trust.
- 13:39Speaker 2: It's a collective responsibility, you know.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Absolutely, we all have a role to play in safeguarding children,
- 13:45whether we're parents, educators, community members, or just concerned citizens.
- 13:50Speaker 2: This case also really highlights the importance of forensic science
- 13:54and you know how far it's come, oh for sure.
- 13:57Imagine if they had had familial DNA searching back in
- 14:00nineteen ninety.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Eight, right, Nikki King family might not have had to
- 14:02wait twenty years for answers.
- 14:04Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking to think about, you know, it really is,
- 14:07and it makes you wonder how many other cold cases
- 14:09are out there just waiting for that one breakthrough.
- 14:11Speaker 1: I'm sure there are many, and it speaks to the
- 14:14dedication of those working in forensic science, constantly pushing the
- 14:17boundaries to bring justice.
- 14:19Speaker 2: So as we kind of wrap up our deep dive
- 14:21into Nikki's case, I keep thinking about how we can
- 14:25turn this tragedy into action.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I think that's a powerful way to look at it.
- 14:30Speaker 2: You know what concrete steps can we take to learn
- 14:32from this and create a safer world for kids?
- 14:35Speaker 1: Well, I think first and foremost, we need to keep
- 14:37talking about child safety.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Right, make it a conversation, not a taboo subject.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Exactly. We need to educate ourselves, our children, and our
- 14:44communities about the risks, the warning signs, and the ways
- 14:48to prevent abuse.
- 14:49Speaker 2: We need to empower kids to be their own advocates, right.
- 14:52Speaker 1: To trust their instincts and to know that they have
- 14:54the right to say no.
- 14:55Speaker 2: And we need to support those organizations that are dedicated
- 14:58to protecting children.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Yes, there are so many amazing groups out there working
- 15:03tirelessly to prevent abuse and support victims.
- 15:05Speaker 2: And we can't forget about open communication within family.
- 15:08Speaker 1: That's so important. Children need to know that they can
- 15:10talk to their parents or caregivers about anything without fear
- 15:13of judgment.
- 15:14Speaker 2: The NICKI for stap in case. It's a reminder that
- 15:17even in the darkest of times, there's always hope and
- 15:20there's always something we can do to make a difference.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect way to sum it up.
- 15:25Speaker 2: So to our listeners, thank you for joining us on
- 15:27this deep dive into the Niki for stap in case.
- 15:30It's been a heavy one, but an important one.
- 15:32Speaker 1: It really has, and we hope that this conversation has
- 15:35encouraged you to think about how we can all work
- 15:38together to create a safer world for children.
- 15:41Speaker 2: And that's it for this episode of the Deep Dive.
- 15:43We'll see you next time.