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CM 19 Taking Back Control: Accountability, Financial Freedom and the Future with Kutter Callis · Callis Mindset with Kannon Callis

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Callus Mindset Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I've had entrepreneurs, real estate leaders, professionals, corporate leaders, and
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  Speaker 2: many other people already on the show this year. Today's
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  Speaker 2: a little different. I've got a guest that's special. He's
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  Speaker 2: my brother. His name is Cutter Callus, and he lives
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas, Texas. He works in sales, has worked around
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  Speaker 2: other startup companies, entrepreneurs, and he's also growing a following
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  Speaker 2: online through creating content about accountability, self-improvement, and speaking his
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  Speaker 2: mind about politics and culture. His content isn't for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Some people think he's too blunt. I've heard the same
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  Speaker 2: thing about myself. We don't always say things the way
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  Speaker 2: that people want to hear them. But one thing no
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  Speaker 2: one can accuse either of us of is being afraid
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  Speaker 2: to say what we believe. Today, we're talking about personal responsibility, success, excuses, sales,
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  Speaker 2: social media, and so much more. We're also going to
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  Speaker 2: discuss the future of America through the eyes of two
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  Speaker 2: brothers who aren't afraid to have uncomfortable conversations.
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  Speaker 3: Cutter, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. It's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit different being on a podcast like this,
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  Speaker 3: but I think there's a a lot of information that
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  Speaker 3: both of us will be able to cover and share
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  Speaker 3: from our personal experiences and thoughts that'll be.
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  Speaker 1: Helpful for everybody. Well, cool. Let's start here. Um, tell
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  Speaker 1: everyone who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, my name is cutter. I, uh, I've been in
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  Speaker 3: sales for roughly four years now. Um, different kinds of sales,
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  Speaker 3: whether that's, you know, the basic door knocking cold calling
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  Speaker 3: business to business. And, uh, I am now in the
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  Speaker 3: world of basically making things go. I set up companies
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  Speaker 3: as my customer and I help cover their freight so
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  Speaker 3: that you can have the things in life that you
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  Speaker 3: enjoy and that you need to get by.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that freight has grown so much over
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  Speaker 2: the last 10, 20, 30 years, especially with the online age.
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  Speaker 2: But how did you get into sales originally?
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  Speaker 1: You said four years ago or so, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of started whenever I worked in clinics where
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  Speaker 3: basically the job was to do the hands-on work, but
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  Speaker 3: also to upsell, where it was figuring out the needs
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  Speaker 3: of people, not just whatever they said, hey, I want
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  Speaker 3: to do this, but really breaking it down and figuring
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  Speaker 3: out why they were in there that day and getting
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  Speaker 3: them the special test or treatment that they needed. I
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  Speaker 3: then moved on into More along the lines of cold calling,
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  Speaker 3: which is not for everybody, but it taught me a
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  Speaker 3: lot about how to handle rejection and I have since grown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. And then at what point did
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  Speaker 1: you start creating videos or content?
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  Speaker 2: I remember growing up watching everything. You started several YouTube
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  Speaker 2: channels and what have you been up to recently?
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  Speaker 3: When I was younger, I really enjoyed the process and
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  Speaker 3: creativity of it because I myself love art and media,
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  Speaker 3: but as I have grown older and, you know, more intellectual,
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  Speaker 3: I would put it, I really dig into the facts
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  Speaker 3: of life and figure out problems that people are going
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  Speaker 3: through and solutions as well as, you know, things like,
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  Speaker 3: as you stated before, politics that are going on and
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  Speaker 3: the separation of people. So I've really dug into and
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  Speaker 3: been establishing myself as somebody who is not just pointing
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  Speaker 3: out the issues in society, but trying to find solutions
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  Speaker 3: or ways that people can grow in themselves, even if
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  Speaker 3: things are bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reflect a lot in my own life and
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of a self-improvement or self-growth type of person,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mindset type of growth as well. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that at a certain point, we need to stop
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  Speaker 2: agreeing with people and we need to start telling people
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  Speaker 2: the reality that we're living in. If they can't see
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  Speaker 2: it and we can, And we see that maybe there's
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  Speaker 2: a future that doesn't look the way that you would
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  Speaker 2: expect it to as you're growing up. It's because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people have lost accountability. There's a lot of corruption to
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  Speaker 2: an extent that we can't even fathom. And really what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in our country is we're being sold out.
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  Speaker 2: And so I can't wait to get into some of
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  Speaker 2: these conversations with you. Let's go ahead and start with
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  Speaker 2: personal responsibility. Both of us really truly believe you can
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  Speaker 2: almost create your own destiny and create your own path forward,
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  Speaker 2: take care of yourself if you make the right decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think that so many people feel like
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  Speaker 2: they're stuck?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I like to speak in generalities. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: I'll say that most people don't really know that they
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  Speaker 3: are fully capable of just walking out one day and
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  Speaker 3: figuring out ways to make money. I mean, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of them feel stuck at their current job. And they
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  Speaker 3: never sit down and really think, how could I take
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  Speaker 3: what I enjoy in life and make something out of it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it could be something small, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: content or, you know, going and developing your own business
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  Speaker 3: one day. But I think that there's kind of just
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  Speaker 3: trained to think that they're stuck like that because they
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  Speaker 3: intake so much media that just reminds them on a
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  Speaker 3: day-to-day basis that you are stuck and that it's someone
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  Speaker 3: else's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like we're cattle and we're prodded through
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  Speaker 1: life from the time that we're really, really young.
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  Speaker 2: In school, we're taught things. Before school, we're taught things online.
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  Speaker 2: And especially today, where children are growing up with an
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  Speaker 2: iPad and a screen attached, they're taught things from a
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  Speaker 2: very young age that are different than our parents or
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  Speaker 2: even us, for example, where we had technology half of
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  Speaker 2: our life, but the first half we didn't. And so
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  Speaker 2: we had maybe an ability to separate ourselves from that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I went to public school.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just, you know, just as susceptible to the
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  Speaker 1: general Texas public schools, Oklahoma public schools, you know, whatever
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  Speaker 1: they're teaching down there. And that changes every few years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, our mom is a master's degree in higher education.
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  Speaker 2: She worked with in the state and the other surrounding states.
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  Speaker 2: And we could see the curriculum that was being panned
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  Speaker 2: out across the south states. And, you know, from your perspective,
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  Speaker 2: I know you were in public school over half, you know,
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  Speaker 2: your schooling career, and then you went into a private school.
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  Speaker 2: What was your opinion on that process? Like, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think school's really teaching people?
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  Speaker 3: I think that public school in general terms has failed people, um,
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  Speaker 3: I've watched the expansion of the Department of Education and
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  Speaker 3: test scores and reading comprehension and ability to do basic
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  Speaker 3: math decreasing as funding went up. I think that I
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  Speaker 3: have seen a lot of teachers that have hit the
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  Speaker 3: point where they have given up and they don't even
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  Speaker 3: want to educate children anymore. So that leads to a
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  Speaker 3: further degradation of children learning in school. Regarding when I
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  Speaker 3: went to public school, I kind of felt like it
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  Speaker 3: was more about just making friends and getting through it,
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  Speaker 3: like just knocking it out so I could get on
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  Speaker 3: with my life. While in private school, I felt like
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  Speaker 3: I was learning a lot more because of the way
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  Speaker 3: that they were teaching the PACE system. And it was
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  Speaker 3: up to you. They said, here is all of your
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  Speaker 3: booklets for the entire high school and middle school. If
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  Speaker 3: you complete it by the time you're 16, good on you,
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  Speaker 3: you graduated. If you complete it at the age of 20,
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  Speaker 3: at least you finished. But I mean, with no child
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  Speaker 3: left behind these days, it seems that everyone graduates, whether
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  Speaker 3: they know anything or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons, and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: anyone to be offended by terminology I use in this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: like cattle, like calling humans cattle is dehumanizing to some people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean it in that way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just using metaphors and similes in ways that make
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  Speaker 2: sense to me because this is more of an unfiltered
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  Speaker 2: podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: We're really talking, you know, like.
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  Speaker 2: A brother to brother and like a closed environment. We
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  Speaker 2: want to share these conversations with you as well. And
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  Speaker 2: we've seen the school system from the inside out. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we've been surrounded from our mother, like I mentioned, was
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  Speaker 2: a teacher her entire career, went into higher education, got
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  Speaker 2: her master's, went into charter schools, you know, flipping them
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  Speaker 2: and making sure they're successful, but also standardized testing. and
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  Speaker 2: making sure that those systems are working, which really, were
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  Speaker 2: they if scores went down?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: And since they, you know, our mom has left the,
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  Speaker 2: with a vote of confidence, she left the system and
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  Speaker 2: went to start her own business working with our dad
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  Speaker 2: as well. But realistically, we can all say, we can
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  Speaker 2: see what's being taught in schools these days. It's very,
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  Speaker 2: very different than what was taught when we were younger.
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  Speaker 2: The books that have been banned are different books. The
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  Speaker 2: books that are included are different books. And it's different
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  Speaker 2: propagandized ideologies that they're pushing, just like the news, just
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  Speaker 2: like movies, just like anything else. So that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the things I wanted to ask is when we're in
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  Speaker 2: the information age and we're in a place that seems
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of people are choosing victimhood or blame
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  Speaker 2: other people and it's not my fault, that's where personal
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  Speaker 2: responsibility comes in. Why have we come to a nation
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  Speaker 2: that's a culture of excuse makers rather than overcomers and
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  Speaker 2: problem solvers?
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it starts in the home,
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  Speaker 3: depending on how the parent's mentality was, they pass that
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  Speaker 3: along to their kids. And it ends up that one
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  Speaker 3: day if the kid doesn't decide to split off from that,
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  Speaker 3: they just continue it generation after generation. And we've had
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  Speaker 3: so many generations of people who they lack any level
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  Speaker 3: of accountability that was passed down that now they're almost hopeless.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you remember back whenever I was younger, I
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  Speaker 3: struggled with that a lot where I was like, why
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  Speaker 3: can I not get anywhere in life? And I now
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  Speaker 3: look at where I'm at today and I go, there
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  Speaker 3: was a switch sometime in my mind that went, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to continue to end up the way the
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  Speaker 3: previous generations did. And I think I learned a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that from you because you were the first one
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  Speaker 3: in the family to set that example.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one thing I also try to stand out
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  Speaker 2: and provide a way forward is through a changing of
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  Speaker 2: mindset and taking that personal responsibility, that personal accountability. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: we come from a family that is in the middle
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  Speaker 2: class and middle class America. But when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the other demographics of where we came from in the
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  Speaker 2: country of Oklahoma. And you look at the education levels
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  Speaker 2: and some of the, um, just the background of the
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  Speaker 2: lack of education and the rest of our family, you know, our,
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  Speaker 2: I believe our parents were first generation college, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: like educated. And then while I was in college, our
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  Speaker 2: parents were first generation master's degree. And then they started
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  Speaker 2: a business a couple of years later and they didn't
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  Speaker 2: use those degrees. So was that financially the right decision
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  Speaker 2: if you just spent money that you're not going to use?
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  Speaker 2: And I know you can't know that. I have a
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  Speaker 2: degree as well. Did I need to take those loans?
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  Speaker 2: And did I need to get that financial aid that
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  Speaker 2: I'm still paying off today? Would that have changed the outcome?
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of where we're at in our country is
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  Speaker 2: you have two directions. You're either going blue collar or
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  Speaker 2: you're going college education or maybe there's a path of
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  Speaker 2: higher education that may not be worth it.
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  Speaker 3: I would definitely agree because we haven't stated it yet.
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  Speaker 3: I am the only one in my family of five
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  Speaker 3: that I don't have a college degree. I was the
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  Speaker 3: black sheep of the family, but not necessarily in a
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  Speaker 3: bad way, just that I went a different path. I
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  Speaker 3: was offered a half ride scholarship to Full Sail University.
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  Speaker 3: And in my mind, I still could not justify 30,000
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  Speaker 3: plus per semester for whenever it was going to be
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  Speaker 3: a master's degree. So I didn't want to take that
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  Speaker 3: risk because at that time I was still stuck in
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  Speaker 3: the mindset of, I'm never going to make enough money
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  Speaker 3: to be able to pay for that. I know that
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  Speaker 3: you used your college education a little bit different than
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people do where they go just to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, party. Some go to, you know, just learn
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  Speaker 3: from the classes. You did a lot of socializing, networking,
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  Speaker 3: and learning how to build groups that then could expand
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  Speaker 3: and do good things. But most people I would say
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  Speaker 3: these days, they kind of just go because they're told
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  Speaker 3: that's your path. And I feel bad for Gen Z
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  Speaker 3: who go because, you know, their parents didn't look at
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  Speaker 3: the example that millennials went through and told them, we
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  Speaker 3: have options.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the important thing is people need to learn
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  Speaker 2: that they do have choices today more than they ever had,
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  Speaker 2: whether they feel like they're trapped or they have one
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  Speaker 2: path and that's it. There's more freedom and flexibility today
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  Speaker 2: with the way technology, the internet, all these networks are
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  Speaker 2: working together than there ever has been. But also there's
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  Speaker 2: more obstacles, I will say, in competition than there ever
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  Speaker 2: has been as well, because the big money is trying
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  Speaker 2: to out play the small money and the individuals and
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  Speaker 2: the small businesses. And so when you have these multi-trillion
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  Speaker 2: dollar companies taking over every market in the entire world
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  Speaker 2: through their brand power and their buying power, some people
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  Speaker 2: do get hopeless.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, why would I ever try to fight that?
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  Speaker 2: I can just go work for them and make a
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  Speaker 2: comfortable salary enough to survive. And if you want to
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  Speaker 2: just survive and that's the minimum that you want to
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  Speaker 2: live with, great.
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  Speaker 1: Take that path, you know, live it.
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  Speaker 2: And even then it probably won't allow you to survive
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  Speaker 2: in about five to 10 years, because that's the direction
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  Speaker 2: we're headed. AI is going to replace almost every type
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  Speaker 2: of job that it possibly can. It's either going to
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  Speaker 2: enable us or cripple us as a society. That's all
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  Speaker 2: I can say about it for now, but I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see, you know, the next few years of
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  Speaker 2: what actually happens.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk has said that it's going to enable people
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  Speaker 2: to where we don't even need to work anymore. That
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  Speaker 2: it's going to do so many things for us that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to run out of things for it to do.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with him if people in our society
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  Speaker 3: thought about the future more.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen.
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  Speaker 3: Basically, that the amount of work that you do, mental
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  Speaker 3: strain that you do every day is increased, which with
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  Speaker 3: modern technology, especially with AI, should have gone down. I
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  Speaker 3: think that a lot of people are just so stuck
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  Speaker 3: in their ways that it's going to take a very
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  Speaker 3: long time for us to switch over to that whole
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  Speaker 3: relying more on the technology to do the work. But
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  Speaker 3: I also do acknowledge that companies love profit. That's the
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  Speaker 3: goal of a company. It's not because they go out
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  Speaker 3: and go, hey, I want to make people work and
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  Speaker 3: have jobs. They're looking for how can we make more money.
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  Speaker 3: I'm speaking of big corporations, of course, but they see
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  Speaker 3: it as if AI and technology are doing the work,
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  Speaker 3: then they can pay people less because now they don't
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  Speaker 3: have someone to pay. They don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 3: is this person going to be here? They have a
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  Speaker 3: computer that's going to be there 24 seven. So it's
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  Speaker 3: probably going to take a while. I mean, I may
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  Speaker 3: end up being old before we get to that point
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  Speaker 3: or maybe after I pass, but I try and adapt
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  Speaker 3: and everyday work with the system because I can't change it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. And you can't change people either in
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  Speaker 1: the way that they think.
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  Speaker 2: And so you can maybe spark an idea in them,
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  Speaker 2: but they have to make that conscious decision to hold
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  Speaker 2: themselves accountable for the decisions that they make and stop
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  Speaker 2: pointing at AI is taking jobs, so why should I try?
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  Speaker 1: It's like the same victim mentality. It crosses every field
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  Speaker 1: of life, personal, business, professional, everything. And so I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that we're able to be self-aware.
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  Speaker 2: And to hold ourselves accountable and share the lessons with others,
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  Speaker 2: but you've spent years in sales. And I think sales
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  Speaker 2: gives a unique look into human behavior, You know, the
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  Speaker 2: way people behave, the way that they act and the
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  Speaker 2: way that they frame things.
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  Speaker 1: What has sales taught you about people?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I have two sides to this answer is looking
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  Speaker 3: at the salesman I've worked with and then the customers
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  Speaker 3: or potential customers I've come across. In sales, it builds
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  Speaker 3: what I'm going to say is character and confidence. where
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  Speaker 3: you're going to take so much rejection that it changes
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  Speaker 3: who you are. If you stick with it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I used to not be able to handle rejection very
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  Speaker 3: well because I was like, man, it's like a personal
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  Speaker 3: attack and you have enough doors slammed on you enough,
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  Speaker 3: you know, nose in a phone slammed on you getting,
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  Speaker 3: you know, cussed out, whatever it is that eventually you
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  Speaker 3: just kind of numb to it. Like it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: what they think because there's a next person in line. Um,
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  Speaker 3: With customers, I've been taught a lot about human psychology.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of people go to school for that.
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  Speaker 3: And even after they get out, they still don't understand
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  Speaker 3: humans and how they operate or think. But with that
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  Speaker 3: direct contact with, hey, if I want to convince this
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  Speaker 3: person that this is what they need to better their life,
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  Speaker 3: and I have the product or the service that can
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  Speaker 3: help them, I need to find ways to make them
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  Speaker 3: feel like I am here to help, not here just
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  Speaker 3: to take their money. And a lot of salesmen get
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  Speaker 3: away with the whole, what gimmicks can I use? And
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: it works. But I operate on a level of how
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: can I make the world better while I myself am
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: earning money from it? So human psychology to the point
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: of It's almost like a science in sales. There's four
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: different personality types. Salespeople know that. And you have to
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: know how to adapt to each person because you're going
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to come across them every single time that you try
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and help somebody. It's true.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And in sales, you also learn how to make the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: most of your time and the other person on the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: other side of the table or on the other side
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of the phone or whatever it is, make the most
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: of their time as well.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: For me, time is my biggest priority.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: In life type of person. Money, I will spend every
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: single dollar I make until I make enough to then
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: be at a point that I can save. I save
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: as I go, but realistically, I'm not afraid to spend
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: every single dollar and borrow more than I have in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: order to take a risk on a plan that that's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: thought through, you know, planned out and time to execute.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Sales is kind of the same way, but in a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: much faster fashion, because for me, the decisions I make
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in a business are sometimes multi-year long decisions.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And sometimes depending on what kind of.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Sales you do, it could be a multi-year long sales
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: cycle where you're pursuing it for that many years. I've
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: also been in very short-term ones where you can sell
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: seven deals in a day, you know, like it's, very transactional,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: but also you still have to keep up with the pace,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the high energy matching and inflecting in ways
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that their tonality is matching your, you know, you're matching theirs.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And we've talked so much about this cause you've done some,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you know, we've done calls together, we've done trainings together
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and I've watched you, you know, from door knocking to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: cold calling to, you know, inside sales and everything else,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: you know, we've discussed it along the way. And for me,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: sales is basically my second language. You know, like, I've
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: been at the top of sales in multiple companies. I've
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: trained countless salespeople. I do sales transactions for a living
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: right now is how I live. It's based on commissions
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: only in business earnings, not from a salary.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And that just changed in the last couple of years.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I was on a salary plus commissions for almost the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: last seven years before that until I was in real
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: estate last only. And so real estate is one of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: those things you have to learn people or else.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: You will not survive. Absolutely. Absolutely. There's too many agents.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: There's too many agents. There's too many salespeople, right? Unless
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you differentiate yourself or unless you're positioned properly for just
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the right type of lead flow to where it's just automatic,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: sales doesn't work for everyone. Especially like you said.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: The no, no, no, F off. You just mean people
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that don't want your call, for example. They don't want
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you to be knocking on their door. Um, they think
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: their time is more valuable than yours. And a lot
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of times it might be, you never know, you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Hung up on two salespeople while I was at work today.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I hung up on a salesperson two seconds ago while
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: they were calling on this podcast.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's my time is valuable. And if, you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: a big thing is if you're taking my time and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you're not offering me something that I need, want, or
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: is making me money. then I don't have the time
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: to offer. Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, right now we are not financially free. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: can say that with confidence for both of us. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: most people that are watching this podcast, there's only a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: few maybe that have already made it financially because maybe
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: they're twice our age.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're not. You never know. Here's the thing. Until
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: we are, time is the most valuable thing we have.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And once we are financially free by earning enough and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: having assets that are cash flowing and producing enough income
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to be more than our spending on a monthly basis,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: then maybe we can decide what we want to do next,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: more passion projects. Till then, head down, grinding. I mean,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons I chose sales is that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you learn it, you master it, you work freaking hard
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and you show up for as much as you can
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: more than everyone else, you're going to earn more than
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: 90% of the country.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I have actually also found that when I first got
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: into it, I was terrified of commission because I went, man,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: how do I pay the bills if I cannot get
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the sales? You don't get paid unless you do success.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And as you were saying, it's a grind. You have
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: to be able to take this massive, massive outreach fan
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: and shrink that all the way down to a fine
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: point to the person who is the right person to
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: talk to. It's gonna be a sale and it's gonna
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: be good. And at this point where I'm at, it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: almost like regular jobs just don't do it for me.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I can't go work at a grocery store. I can't
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: go do construction. I mean, physically I could, but I
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm not achieving anything. It's a never ending
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: line that I'm told to keep walking down And as
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: long as I keep walking, I'm going to keep getting paid,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: but it's never going to make me more money.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's like you're walking on a treadmill, you're walking in
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: place and it's great because you're still moving.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You're able to keep having the energy to walk, but realistically,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: are you getting ahead? Are you going to ever be
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: able to run to the point where you can fly?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Not usually, it's a.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Very small fraction who get promoted into those positions.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It's a trap. It is a trap.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And even in sales, there's only so much you can
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: make for a company to where they think, how can
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I make that money at a cheaper rate? And they'll
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: find five other people, they'll outsource it. It's happened to me.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'll train all five to seven of these people. And
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: then they tell me they're not giving me the benefits
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that I expected for years.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And that was the trigger for me that really pushed
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: me to go and create my own companies, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the real estate agency, the property management company, the podcast,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it all kind of came from that. You know, someone
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: can be ambitious, but it doesn't always translate to execution
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't always translate to what they did with
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And, you know, when they executed it, how good is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: what they created? Because a lot of times you have
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: to fail forward, right? You have to, learn by doing
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and nobody learns by, you know, nobody rides a bike
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: by just getting on and it works. You have to crash,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you have to wreck, you have to be scared, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: that you're going to hurt yourself or other people. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: may ruin yourself financially a couple of times, but as
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: long as you keep bouncing back, I think that's the
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: thing that really differentiates the people that succeed is just,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: they tried another time and it worked. Sales warms you
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: up to that idea of that you have to go
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: through a thousand no's in a year, or maybe even
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: more than that, depending on what kind of sales you're doing.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And then once you get to the one out of
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: a hundred or one out of a thousand, that a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: lot of times becomes worth it. And then people see
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that tiny little needle in the haystack and they're like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: his job's easy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He's making so much money. All he had to do
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: is call this one person.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, dude, no, he's been working 80 hours a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: week every week for the last seven years to perfect
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the craft. And he just happened to know these people
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: across the last five years, the right thing happened and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: he was prepared to do it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: He or she, right? Like it's women are actually phenomenal
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: at sales.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Some of the best salespeople I've ever met even today
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: are absolutely killers making millions and millions of dollars women.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And they're so good at it. It's almost natural for
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: some of them. And so I think some people you
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: have to force yourself to brute learn it. That's kind
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of how I felt is like, I'm, Kind of know
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I'm extrovert, kind of know I'm intuitive and kind of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: can push forward with energy. How do I apply that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to actually making money in my pocket?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And then I'm the polar opposite, which I'm a very
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: introverted person. I have like a battery that I'm working
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: off of. I don't get energy by interacting with people.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I get drained. And so like you were saying earlier
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: is using my time wisely. Like I get up at five.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: because I know that I need that time to prepare
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: myself for the day, because like I said, that battery
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: is going to be draining. And then I make sure
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that every minute that I'm at work, I am getting
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: tasks accomplished. I am taking care of business and taking
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: those steps forward to making myself more successful. I don't
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: want to be up there and just lollygagging around. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: want to build and grind till I'm comfortable. Then I
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: can relax.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And that's the sad thing is that most people,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like they actually, I mean, a lot
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of people we know have that mindset because we've put
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: ourselves in those circles where people are competing for funds
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and to make money and to be those top performers.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: But we're not really like the most average people, like
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: from personality tests that we've taken to the choices that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: we've put ourselves in the opportunities we've chased. Most people
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: are afraid of those risks. And so to me and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to you, you have to do things that you have
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: never done to get what you've never gotten.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's almost until you make it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: It's, it's almost a mind over matter. You push forward
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: through goals and through ceilings that you thought existed because
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you're conditioned. Like I said, going all the way back
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to schooling and traditions from the family structure and, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: what some people would call generational curses or, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Um, the fact that we've been in America for X
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: amount of years and our family has not amassed fortunes
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: is surprising to some people because, you know, you look
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: at the skin color and people think white man must
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: be at the top.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And you get treated as if you have not earned
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: anything ever. And it's kind of hilarious because we have
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: nothing like there's no, there's no special thing for white
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: men that they got some type of benefit for being that,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: but not for other, other things.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: In our country. Like, And it's because, you know, people
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: before us.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Other white men, usually boomer generation or older, sometimes five
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: generations back amassed wealth and they passed it down through
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: their generations and they abused that power. And they abused
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the opportunity they had where they took advantage of other people.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: They used their business funds for corruption and things like that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But then they also are the same people that are
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: creating all this propaganda. telling people that they're abused and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: that they're like you need to hate that person you
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: need to hate that group they don't look like you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: they don't talk like you you know they don't believe
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the same thing as you and so I want to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: get a little bit more into the cultural and political
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: stuff that we were going to discuss um specifically I
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: feel like things are divided and I say this like
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: every five years at this point things have become so
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: polarized and so divided that it's um.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It's weird to.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Think that like half of the country votes completely different
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: than the other half. And that like, it's getting to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the point where people are doing things.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't normally do. Like we saw so much violence
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in just the last 10 years of our lives and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: we've seen assassinations. We've seen attempted assassinations. We've seen just
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: crazy things happen.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And even COVID, I mean, we talked a little bit
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: about this on my previous podcast where COVID was just
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: one of the biggest disgusting power grabs, but also abusive
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: power that I've ever seen.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of fraud.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Recently in the last year, we've had the Doge stuff
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: from Elon Musk and Trump and all the stuff where
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: they're noticing that the IRS and other places are basically
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: money laundering and doing illegal things that would never go
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: by Congress.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: They're not approved.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: There are these NGOs, these other organizations that are basically
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: shell companies for mass fraud and laundering. That's the type
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of stuff that we've seen just in the last few
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: years of our lives. And we're still relatively young compared
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: to the average person being, I think almost 50 years
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: old in our country. I think it's like 46 to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: 48 is the average age person. What is going on
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: in our country?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I think you hit the nail on the head corruption.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, my entire adult life has been like this
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: fire of politics and, and, and wars and riots. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I look back and I'm like, things used to be
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: more spaced out. And I think it's because now we
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: have access to information. I think the access to knowing
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: what's going on 24 hours a day, seven days a week,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: wherever we went down to a neighborhood, we could say, well,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: what's been going on over here. And that corruption is
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: now being brought to light where, you know, people aren't
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: just going, Hey, you know, this person, they're a great person.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I'm a vote for them. It's, Hey, I see what
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: they're saying online or videos that have come out now, or,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you know, here's who they're associated with. And for the
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: people who are paying attention to what's going on and
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: are really diving into it, they see that, both sides
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: of the political spectrum, the people who are the politicians
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: or NGOs, they don't care about you. It's not a,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I did this because I want to help. It's, I
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: did this for a personal gain of some kind, whether
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that's fulfillment of power, fame, money, or just evil. That's
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: a big thing. A lot of my political opinions are
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: have switched from which party or what race to it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: all just good versus evil.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we are at that point.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And we're at a place in our country where we're
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: turning 250 years next month.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Well, right now it's June.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So as of right now, we're approaching the 250th anniversary
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of this country. And anyone who's actually looked into Empires, civilizations,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: other civilizations that existed prior to ours, they'll talk to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you about usually the span of existence from inception to
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: collapse of societies is about 200 to 250 years. So
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to see that we went from this empire
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: that we were taught was so prosperous and so.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Just absolutely phenomenal. dominating every industry.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: The inventors, the innovators, basically the people that were the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: frontiersmen to, you know, across our parents' generation, you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Know, just declination completely. The nuclear family has also degraded. It's,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you know, now they don't even talk about the nuclear
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: family in most cases. They just want to talk about
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: marginalized families and alternative non-hetero families, basically.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And it's just interesting to see what, you know, like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and there's nothing against those types of people from my
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: point of view, but to see the propaganda and how
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: much volume of our time, the screens that are put,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you know, that are in front of us and what's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: actually being paid for, it's like 90% not relative to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the population that I affiliate with and that I identify as.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And why is that? It's because they hijacked everything. Whoever
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the powers to be are, the corrupt people, a lot
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of times these are billionaires, people who've made hundreds of
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars off of something, technocrats, people that made
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: money on tech and they're billionaires and now they want
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to use that for evil.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And they disguise it as something completely different. And then
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it actually, you know, it seems like a good thing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And then suddenly here we are, you know, and AI
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: is being used.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: As a weapon against us, you know?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So there's just, it's a lot of things that have
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: happened in the last really 20 years, but even in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the last five years, it seems like things are speeding up,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: like you said, in volume and how frequent it's happening.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to continue as that goes on.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: But today we, um, well, it was last week. First trillionaire.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: First trillionaire in the world on paper that they'll admit, right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me. I can't quite comprehend
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: or fathom how much bigger a trillion is from a
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: billion even.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: It's 12 zeros, right?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I can't keep up. Exactly.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It's almost like money doesn't even make sense at all
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: at that number. It's more than every country's GDP figure.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: other than like the top five, I think in the world,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: one person's wealth.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: And what you mean by that, I'm sure is combined.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Every other country combined, not just like individually. How does
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: one person in the world amass over a trillion dollars
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: of net worth period, let alone, I just, it's, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: can't comprehend it because it's still.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Seems like it's made up to me.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I think part of it is how the dollar has devalued.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: And so you have to make more dollars to get
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the same value. If you, you know, if we kept
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a hundred percent of the value in the dollar, wouldn't
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: be a trillionaire at this point.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Even five, six years ago, it'd be 300 billion
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And, you know, even though I have support for Elon
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: in many, many ways, I also, it's, I do not
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: have information, but there's something off about how quickly he
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: amassed that kind of wealth. Like, it's not that I
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: think it's bad. It's just, it hasn't been that long since,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: you know, he was a young billionaire and not young
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: as in his age. I mean, like lower billions, nowhere
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: close to a trillion.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: He was at millions in the late 90s, and then
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: he was at hundreds of millions in.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The early 2000s. My life. Yeah, so basically the fastest
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: wealth collection of any human of all time. In history.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically he's now wealthier than the titans of back
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: in the day when there was kings that owned half
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of the land. and it's weird to think about that
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: because today it kind of just means that our systems
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: our financial.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Systems and our our U.S.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Dollars and you know the finance and the currency that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: we use doesn't really mean you know I don't know
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it's just when you think about someone can reach a
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars the game's kind of broken like this this
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to me is like super like late stage capitalism and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I am a capitalist.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I believe in free trade and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: bartering and open markets and stuff like that. But I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: also don't believe in.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: This type of wealth amassing to displace it because it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: what it's going to do is yes, it creates jobs.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It creates new products, new services, new jobs. But the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: division of of wealth is growing more and more every
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: single year for the ability that one guy can create
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars just from a couple years
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: worth of work there was a statistic before this even
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: happened like a couple years ago that Elon Musk could
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like give away something like 10 million dollars a day
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Every day from now until like when Jesus was actually
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: walking on the earth and he would still be a billionaire.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Like when it gets to that point, I truly think
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: there should be some type of cap and use that
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: money other ways. And if people are unhappy that they're
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: not able to earn.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: A trillion dollars, let's just say a billion dollars is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the cap or, you know, 5 billion.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Or a hundred billion or something. More money than anyone
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: would ever be able to spend. More money than their
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: children's children go down 15 generations would ever be able
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: to spend, period. Money doesn't mean anything to them anymore.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They wake up and there's nothing to conquer.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: They've overcome forever. There will never be a possible scenario
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that they will not be wealthy ever again and all
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of their children forever. So at what point are we
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: going to stop taking from people today that are alive
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that maybe don't have the opportunity and keep giving to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: future generations of these technocrats and multibillion, you know, because
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: they created a software that connected people. And now they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: leveraging it so hard that people are basically digital slaves
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I think I would, since you mentioned it, I was
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: thinking while you were talking about the cap, like, A
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: lot of people would say, you know, once you hit
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: a certain point, then it's just taxed 100%. That doesn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: really solve the problem of the corruption. I mean, we
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: pay more taxes in total and percentage than we have
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: ever paid in history. And yet we are the most
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: in debt as a nation than we've ever been in history.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: You don't continue to raise the limit on someone who's
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: maxed out a credit card for all of history. So,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: What I was thinking of instead of, you know, the
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: government taking that is once you hit a certain point,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: you have to then, you know, either create more jobs
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: without your own personal profits. So that would have to
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: go towards paying people exclusively or give who is already
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: employees of your company higher wages. And it's, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I see a lot of people saying, you know, I
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: deserve a livable wage and they're asking, you know, tom
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: over here who runs a solo business by himself and
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: he's like i just don't have the funds but which
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: i understand that you know if you if you can't
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: afford it you're gonna lose your entire business trying to
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: pay people it's not reasonable but you know someone like
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: elon musk or other very wealthy people i'm going you've
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: hit the point where profit is no longer the goal
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And it needs to be about what can I put
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: back into our society and not just donating, but helping
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: people achieve more wealth themselves, hitting achievements of their own,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: whether that being buying a house. And honestly, probably job training.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: That's a big one.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I think if people reinvested into their staff and their
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: employees more, Rather than saying, how cheaply can I get
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the labor?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Even when the labor is expensive because it's so quality
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that you're.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Making more money than you ever have, they still want
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to find ways to treat those people poorly.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And to me, it's greed.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: That's all it can amount to is how much less
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: can I pay people so I can keep more down
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: my pocket and have a better life for me, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: F everyone else. That's kind of what it feels like.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: It's the boomer generation age 61 and up to about
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: 80 something right now. They're going to hate me for
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: saying this because they take things personally as well. And
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I understand why I would too, if I was in
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: their shoes and they own, you know, we don't need
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: to get too deep into the deep end, but for
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: anyone who doesn't know, please just look it up on
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: using AI, Google, look up the statistics around wealth, asset management,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: company management, pensions, 401ks, retirement, like anything that we will
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: never have and probably don't have anything of, they have
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: more than any generation has ever had.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: What's a pension?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: What even is retirement?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: The wealthiest investors went in in the last 30 to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: 40 years and they collected as many companies as they
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: could and they changed the rules of retirement. So they
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: built the system, they built the ladder to climate themselves,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: pulled up the ladder right behind them in most cases.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And it's just a statistical fact that we are worse
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: off today generationally than our parents were possibly our grandparents,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: especially financially because of the decisions that have come down,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the gutter through the streamline. And so realistically,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I love that generation. You know, my grandparents were, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: my parents and grandparents were roughly around that age, but
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: realistically I've had, I've just had too much time and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: too many stories.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I love, like, I've always kind of given back to
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: that generation, like AARP raising money, you know, time, community
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: service doing things for other people when you learn things
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: it's kind of eye-opening of um how many chances they
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: had to fail across their life and it was a
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: cushy cushion where financially they couldn't possibly lose um you
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: know forget you forgot about a thousand dollars that you
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: had in a retirement account for 20 30 years and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: now suddenly it's worth a million dollars just like your
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: house that you bought for you know two chapsticks and
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a carmex and you know like it's um We can
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: point fingers all day. They'll point fingers at us and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: say we're lazy and stuff, but realistically, we're working more hours.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: We're spending more time with our children for those of
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: us that have them at this age, and we're still poorer.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I think a big contributor to wages not going up
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: as well, it's kind of like on the side of
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: politics and culture and stuff, is whether they're on a
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: visa or or, you know, walked over, there is roughly
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: anywhere from 30 to 50 plus million people who were
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: brought in from other countries. And now Americans have to
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: compete with that. And the issue is, is that these
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: companies will hire those people. And I mean, if you say,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you know, like a visa, if that person says, no,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that, or that's not enough money. Well,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: now you don't get to stay. an American, they can say,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. And they don't get
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: kicked out.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another factor is that we've been completely sold
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: out as a country. And a lot of the people
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that made those decisions were the boomers, like the ones
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: that were in the positions of power for those corporations
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: while they were coming up, they changed the laws to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: make it possible. And they didn't really care about the
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: future generations. I mean, it's the same thing with like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: 75% of all animal habitats are dying or have died
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: in the last 40 years since the 1980s. It's because
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: we didn't really do things to take care of our environment.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: We just sold, you know, like we mined, we drilled,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: we did everything we needed to do. And I'm pro
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: that industry, but I've seen the forestry. I've seen what's
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: going on with the rivers and what's going on from
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the forest, you know, foresting out here.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's disgusting.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: You know, it's multi-billion dollar companies that are controlling all
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the decisions and local resources as well.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: So you can't really fight against them.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: On a small, it's actually a very large scale, but
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: compared to a forest, you know, a couple trees in
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: a yard. If you go around Texas here, you'll notice
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: that there are very few trees, like maybe one or
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: two in an entire neighborhood of new houses. And people
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: started asking about that. They said, where did all the
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: trees go? Because like our parents' neighborhood, they said, you
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: have to keep a certain amount of trees. But these
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: new ones, it's just like a desert. And so I
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: started looking into it. Well, it turns out insurance companies,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: they see it as a liability to the property. And
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: if strong winds take that tree and it hits your house, well,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: now they have a claim. So they just lobby. And
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: then these builders, they just, there's no trees. Yep.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It's all for specific. People always control the outcome to
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: make money. And the same thing with the outsourcing overseas workers,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: all these H-1B visas. Texas actually is the number one
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: state for H-1B visas in the country, and it's not
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: even close.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: It is every other state almost combined is like what
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Texas is taking in. And like you said, when you
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: import immigrants from another country that have a lower standard
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of living, and they don't have the same expectation of
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: rights and liberties and freedoms that we have in the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: greatest country to ever exist, it doesn't raise the quality
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: of our living. It doesn't raise the quality of our
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: communities and our jobs. It lowers it to the standard
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of the third world or wherever we're importing from. And
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: guess what?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Something special about those overseas companies and those overseas countries
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: that have billions of people is that if one person
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: says no they'll find another it's an unlimited supply of
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: low wage human capital labor it's the closest thing to
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: replacement for slavery that we.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Have i was about to say that and that's what.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: These companies are choosing They don't care about our future.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: They don't care about our retirement. They don't care about
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: us having kids and families. They care about selling us
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: out and our opportunity so they can pay less money
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: for people to basically be slaves. And that is why
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I don't like some of the decisions that the previous
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: generations have made to end up here, because I know
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I would never make a decision like that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: One of the phrases that it kind of echoes in
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: my head whenever, you know, people are talking politics and
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: being like, well, we should be importing or we shouldn't
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: is the phrase who is going to pick our crops.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: And first of all, we have technology. We can pick
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: apple trees, carrots, like, like you name it. We have
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: machines that do that. And a guy sitting in his
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: living room with a TV and a remote can, can
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: control it, but, or automated, but, thinking about how many Americans,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: if you paid them enough, would get out there in
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: the heat for up to 12 plus hours a day
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: and pick the crops. But they're passed over because there's
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: people wanting to pay $ 6, $ 4 an hour to three
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: immigrants that they brought in that may not have papers.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: And it's just the way it is. There's nothing we
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: can do about it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: It's taking people and it's almost like a predatory practice of,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: only going after the most vulnerable.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: The most vulnerable people, like the desperate people.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And that's what selling out America is to me is
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: when you overlook quality talent and quality people that live
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: here in your community, they go to, they went to
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: school with you.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: You know, they went to church with you. They went
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to whatever it is, right? Like you're choosing to enable
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: illegal immigrants.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: In a lot of cases, um, There's potentially between 50
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and 70 million immigrants in America.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: The rate of immigration has increased only. It has only increased,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: especially during our lifetime. And it's just interesting to see
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: like people confused about the outcome of decisions that have
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: been made generations ago when they. there was an opposing view.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Like it was polarized back then even where people were like, no,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: that's the wrong decision. They're like, yes, it's the right decision.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: And then they went with the right decision. And now
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: here we are with.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly what the people warned about on the other side.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: And it's on both sides. Like it doesn't matter who
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you vote for. I've been disappointed severely every single time
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I voted ever, ever.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So, so deceived. And so just sold.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like I was lied to like the things
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that I see, the decision and actions that actually happen.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: compared to what people run on is just completely different.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And you can't really trust any politician ever, but especially
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: in the United States. It's just disgusting what's going on
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: behind closed doors contractually. I want to talk about the
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: direction that our country is heading because obviously a lot
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: of people.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Are tinfoil hat people.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of schizos and people that think that
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a civil war soon and the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: world's ending. And the, you know, this is like the
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: last president ever, you know, things like that. Where do
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: you see our country in five years and 10 years,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: just based on, you know, the trajectory.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I think five years from now, it's probably going to
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: look a lot like it does now, but probably worse.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't see anyone who has the power
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: to push things in a better direction than doing much
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: to do that like as i said my entire adult
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: life i've watched it get progressively worse no matter who's
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: in power no matter you know what people are saying
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: and i mean later on you know 10 20 30
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: years i honestly couldn't tell you what it would look
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: like i mean 30 years from now we could literally
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: already be taken over completely cease as a nation it
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: wouldn't matter Or something drastic happens and all of a
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: sudden it's, you know, without the, we'll say the negatives,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: 1950s America again, where we have steel industry booming, people
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: are happier than they were or are now. You know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: you can afford a house on one income, you never know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: But it's just, it's not in a good direction right now.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't, I don't like to be a pessimist.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm more of an optimistic person.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I try to stay positive minded and focused on the
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: positive things, but for some reason I don't necessarily see
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it getting better.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Because of the way that it's going right now.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And the reason that it's going that direction by the
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: people who are only getting richer from it, going that direction, who, like,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: like you said, like who's going to stand up against the,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: The billionaire's oligarchy, you know what I mean?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Like you can't possibly fight it. They'll kill you. You
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, even if you don't have
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the money to fight it, you speak out like Charlie
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Kirk did. They'll kill you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: You speak out like Trump did the first time they'll
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: try to kill you.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: And then I'll try to kill you a second time,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: potentially as well.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Or you get sued for a billion dollars to where
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: you can't make another penny until that's paid.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: So it's, there's, there's so many devices that are being
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: used against people that would speak out um activists against
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: you know the direction that's going um but like i
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the good guys winning very many this you
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: know last 10 years and it's very concerning because even
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the people i thought were the good guys are sellouts
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: they're hypocrites and they're selling out our country just like
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: everyone else right so it seems like we can only
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: go to a point to where we hit rock bottom
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: before we recover but i don't want us to because
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that scares me I.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Think it also, you know, we were talking about the boomers.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I think there will be some kind of drastic change
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: in whatever direction once that generation has, you know, asked
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: on because there's so much being held onto right now
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: outside of even money, you know, belief systems that they
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: established and maintain companies, all of that is going to
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: get passed down. And then, you know, Gen X, they're
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: going to be up there and they're going to be, Hey,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: now we are in charge. And then eventually millennials, it's
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: going to be this weird. I don't think that Gen
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: X will hold on to power the way that their
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: parents did. I don't think that we'll start that cycle.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Like you were saying is I used to be, you know, blackmailed,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: everything is doomed, but I have this weird sense of
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: if I don't have a tomorrow to look to, then
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to fade back into that giving up point.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I think that there might be a
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: chance of us starting that cycle of you work your
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: way up, you know, you get power, wealth, everything. Then
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: you pass that along to the next generation and you
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: sit back and retire.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I hope that's the case. And in my case, I'm
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: trying to build a company that has recurring revenues through
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: whether I'm there or not.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Like whether it's, I'm working that day or not, that
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: company is still getting paid. That's one of my biggest
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: goals in life now, because I learned from the sales
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: that unless you have annuities, some type of recurring investments,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: whether that's yearly or monthly, or just you've made enough
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: money in cash to invest into recurring assets that are
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: paying you dividends and interest, you can't keep up. Unless
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: your cash is going to get bigger without you working
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: more at a certain point, You will never be able
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: to keep up with inflation because our money is worth
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: less every day. And I think at some point during
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the next 10 years, so many things are going to happen.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: The biggest wealth transfer of all time from the boomers
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: to the next generations is going to happen. There's going
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: to be so many construction builders, contractors that go under
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: because they can't keep up because the people that made
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: those decisions were those people with that mindset of, I'm
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: not giving anyone else the power. I refuse to relinquish
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: because I want complete control of everything.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I've seen it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It's a mindset that people get stuck even if they
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: entrench their pockets with money and wealth.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: They don't bless anyone around them.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Even their children in many cases that are not getting
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: an inheritance that they probably should be entitled to because
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: they lost their entire parents, their entire life to a career.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: That they should have had presence part of. They didn't
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: get that experience. There's so many things that are going
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to change and then US dollar crumbling, the soaring national
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: debt that we will never be able to tax our
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: way out of will default at some point. Or they will.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Collapse the currency, say that it's no longer a thing.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: We go 100% digital worldwide. We've lived in one of
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: the most diverse cities and one of the most diverse
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: countries in the world. So we've seen a ton of
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: different cultures and diversity and languages. And I think that
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens long-term. You know, I think eventually
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: it could be, it could get worse in the next
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: five years where polarization kind of takes over. And we,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that's like one of the reasons people think there's going
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: to be a civil war is that people are going
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to be closed-minded and stubborn to get more tribalistic when
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: things get chaotic and there's less control.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: People go to their human instincts and their roots of tribalism.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: It's been proven. It's a primitive thing in your brain.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: And what happens is if you don't look like me,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: you're an enemy, you're a threat. I'm afraid of you.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: And I want to attack you. And like, what do
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: you even, how do you control that?
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: So something that someone said one time to me, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: was looking at all these different factors of the country,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: government companies. And I went, it's so easy. We could
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: just do it this way and it would be better.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: And they told me to my face, they said, If
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: it makes too much sense, it's on purpose that it's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: not that way. Because you think that hundreds of billions,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: trillions of dollars with the biggest group of people who
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: have gotten together, who have built businesses or found ways
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: to work their way into the government, haven't gotten in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: a room and went, this would be better, but.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: And found a cheaper way to do things or a
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: way that kind of like you were saying about white
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: people is my opinion is they don't want white people
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: to be around. And it's going to sound kind of bad,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: but it's not intended that way is large corporations and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: the government. They take the path of least resistance, whether
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: that's to get money or to get power.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: The corporations and the companies that exist today that have
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: been around for hundreds of years, that are the top
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: spenders on advertising.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: They know everything about human psychology. They know how to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: push the buttons of the people they're putting these commercials
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: in front of, and they have more power to choose
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the people and the message that they're actually putting in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: front of select groups at select times of day, even
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: compared to back in the day, it was a blanket statement.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: You see the news, you hear it on radio and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: everyone hears it now.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: It's this new generation of individual social media, individual algorithms
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that target you based on what they already have collected,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: all these hundreds and thousands of data points. You're even
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: tracking where your eyes are looking in the dilations in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: your pupils to understand what actually triggers your psychology and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: your biology too. And a lot of times we don't
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: even know that, right?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Like we're not even self-aware enough to realize our pupils
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: get bigger immediately when we see something that entices us.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: But if you've studied this stuff, you'll understand that everything
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: is a manipulation. Everything is being used.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Every bit of knowledge that can be out there is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: being used in a way to control kind of what's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: actually happening at a macro micro level. And so it's the,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like, that's why I ask
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: these bigger questions of like, what's going to happen in
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: the next five, 10 years? Are we going to be
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: a completely AI, you know, like cyber controlled police state or,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: you are we going to be set free because it's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: going to improve the quality of life so much? No, we,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I truly believe that energy has already been solved. I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: truly believe zero point energy without spending money has already
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: been invented multiple times captured. And the people who did
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: it have been silenced, killed accidental, you know, something happened
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: or they've just buried it with all their technology and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Google and they're hiding what's actually out there.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: A big thing is we have produced so much energy.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: so much that I don't know if anyone that's watching
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: this has driven out in the country and you see
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: that pipe coming out of the ground and the tip
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: is on fire. They're burning off natural gas to keep
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: the price of it high enough to basically keep them profitable.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: We're producing so much energy Because natural gas is used
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: in all different forms, whether it's, you know, part of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: the electric grid for, you know, e-vehicles or homes that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: they're bringing out so much of it, they're having to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: destroy it. And yet, you know, our electric bills have
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: gone up every year, no matter how much you're using,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: things have gotten more expensive because everything that we see
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: around us, everything that we use and eat all has
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: to have some sort of form of energy behind it
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: to produce it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen them do the same thing in agriculture.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: They will have farmers get rid of and subsidize. They
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: will use taxpayer money to pay these farmers to destroy
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: crops and keep the supply controlled rather than make the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: prices cheaper for humans.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Same with livestock. They'll say there's too much in this
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: state and you got selected. So here's your check and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: we're going to wipe out your whole ranch now.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: There's a bill that actually made it to it's an Oregon.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of already out there. It's kind of wild,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: but it's a, you can't harm animals for any reason
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: purpose whatsoever. You can't hunt, you can't farm, you can't butcher,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: you can't do anything to protect animals. And over, over
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: like 150,000 people already signed it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: It's a petition.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: And it's like, do they really like, I don't think
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: they realize the repercussions of that decision.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Being on a scale that will ruin not just Oregon,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: but the country. Because if one state does it, I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: guarantee you another crazy person that's so far off the spectrum,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: they should probably be hospitalized, mental institution. They're going to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: have the passion and desire to gather all the other
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: crazy people and say, this is a great idea, even
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: though they don't have the brain cells to compute what
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that would actually do and see a future of what
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: problem they're going to cause.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: And it just leads to other issues like that would
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: just lead to a monopoly in another state at another company,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: or they would drive people out of the state and go, well,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to keep my business here if you're
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: not going to let me do it. So I'm going
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: to go over here. That's why Texas has taken in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: millions of people. We are one of the least restrictive
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: states for businesses of pretty much any kind out there.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: And I mean, all you have to do to start
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: a business here is drop $ 300 and register it. That's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: literally all you have to do.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Texas is a great place for business, but it's also
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: a great place for corruption, fraud.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Where the direction of our state funds would be going,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: they're like, okay, well, we need to make more charger
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: stations for EVs. And I'm like, every winter the power
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: goes out. And you're telling, Aircot is telling us that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: we need to keep our thermostats at 86 during the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: summer because it's going to have rolling blackouts if we don't.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're telling me we don't have enough
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: to go around? Like you were saying, we are the,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: probably in all honesty, in my opinion, the biggest industry
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: state in the country when it comes to oil, natural gas, electricity, coal, like,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: I get stuck at the train every single day and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: it's just nothing but coal rolling through, but man. Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that Texas is literally like one of the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: capitals for all corporations. They have some of the most
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: like second largest economy in the country to California because
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: they have all the tech companies, but I don't know
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: how long that's going to last with the max exodus
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: of everyone leaving California, moving to Texas and other places.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: But you think about how.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Like, how are they adapting to be, the number one
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: data center state with all of this energy, if they
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: were just sending me notifications when I was living there
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, that they're going to hijack
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: my thermostat and make it where I can't change my
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: temperature because they need to put it on 82 at night.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We're getting a, uh, two data centers, actually, uh,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: one just North of me. And then one, um, close
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: enough that I'm going to hear the hum and, um,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: I understand it's real estate. You know that very well
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: is how much money can I make off of this
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: plot of land because there is limited land and data
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: centers are the current fad. It's where the money is
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: getting invested into.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And a few years ago, it was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: these 5G towers.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I actually knew people that their entire job was going
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to locate and find places to put and erect these
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: 5G towers on skyscrapers, on church parking lots, subdivisions.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: You name it.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Fake palm trees.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Fake palm trees, fake evergreen trees, you name it.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: And they would make somewhere between $ 5, 000 and $ 15, 000 per
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: tower that they successfully contracted.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: And it was.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Taxpayer help, like it was government partnerships for infrastructure. So
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: they're getting taxpayer funds to not pay their profits on
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: these machines that are generating trillions of dollars of commerce.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And now they're building all the brains behind these systems
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: to keep all this data and do things with it.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: And it makes me curious, like, what are they actually
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: going to do?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: That's what I've been wondering, because I know this deep
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: inside of my soul is that they are not building
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: all of these data centers so that you can then
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: make a funny video for social media. That is not
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: the intended purpose.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: It's so confusing to me because it makes me think
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: like there's something we truly don't know.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Like there's something that's going to happen.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: That's so far beyond our comprehension that that's what it's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: actually preparing for. And I don't know what that is.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Some people think it's mass surveillance, but we've already been
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: part of that. Like we've had phones, wifi, like, These
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: 5G towers, they're not just one direction. They're sensory systems
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: that can see items in real time, just like our
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Wi-Fi networks in our house. Signals bounce back. It gives
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: them shapes and they can see through walls. It's advanced to,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: like most people don't realize, it's not just a signal
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: going to your phone. And if there's technologies like that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: that are invisible to us, what other technologies are being
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: invented or already have been invented on different frequencies that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: we can't see I don't know.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: It makes me curious.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: So two things on that. Back in the day, I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: grew up with a kid who as an adult, he
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: became very job focused and he lives in Dallas. His
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: job is to sell the government technology and software as
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: a bundle where they can use a satellite to see
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: your pupils shrink and get bigger. That is an incredible,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: so clear that they could see you sweat. That is
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: what he does. And on top of that, you know how,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: what was it? Was it Maduro? They got him. They
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: had his entire mansion mapped out in less than five
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: minutes by using the technology you were talking about. It's
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: just bouncing signals like a bat.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's using sonar technology, frequency technology of waves and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: different lengths.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know that 5G has different wavelengths
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: than your legacy radio waves, right? Or your 4G or
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: your 3G, you know, like every generation, the waves get
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit more tight and there's more airspace that's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: invisible to us around us with radio frequencies floating through
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: technically floating. You know, it's not that they're directed.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: The government and the backend, like the deep backend of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: these big corporations, theirs is like 10 X as powerful
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: and as far in the future as what we're using.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: Like I say, you know, AI, we can make this,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: we are using the watered down version. We can't have
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: access to the, to the main version. We never probably will.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: No, the main version is reserved for those who built
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: it and paid for it through their ventures that they created.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And now they have more power and more control of
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: markets and outcomes than they ever will.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what I was thinking is a lot
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: of people who are already very wealthy and connected to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: these systems, you're going to see more people skyrocket probably.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Like if we're talking about the next five years, you're
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: going to see more people skyrocket almost out of nowhere
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: than we've ever seen. Because they just have to go, hey,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: based on statistics and trends, yada, yada, what stock is
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: going to jump by 20% tomorrow? And it's going to go,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: based on all of that, instead of saying, I can't
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: tell you that, it's going to go, this one, you
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: should put this amount of money, it's going to be
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: this amount of risk, and you are guaranteed at least this.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: JP Morgan, Chase, Morgan State, like all these massive, massive
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: banks that have been around for hundreds of years. They've
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: been working on this type of algorithm-based tracking of data
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: and making decisions to predict a future market because that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: truly is like an invaluable tool. Like it's a crystal ball.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: If you can have a crystal ball and it says
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: that in five years, this company will be worth this
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: much money, it's done.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's one of the biggest. Micron. Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Micron video.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: But so I want to get back on track a
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: little bit because we're getting out of time here, but
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: if you were going to speak to just your average
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Joe Schmo today, and they were going to listen to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: you for 60 seconds, no interruptions, no other influences, no
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: other social media or voices in their head.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: What, like, what would you tell the average American to.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: To not just like survive because people see us worldwide
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: as we're the greediest nation.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: We're all fat, like we're all unhealthy.
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  Speaker 2: We don't take advantage of what's right in front of us,
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  Speaker 2: which the American dream I've said for years is really
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  Speaker 2: the immigrants dream because Americans simply won't stand up and
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of what they have right beneath their feet.
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  Speaker 2: And so I really think that most Americans are squandering
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  Speaker 2: away the opportunity that has been given to them so
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  Speaker 2: graciously and they have no clue how big of an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity is sitting right in their lap. Like, what would
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  Speaker 2: you say to the average person that's lukewarm? They're not ambitious.
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  Speaker 2: They're not wired. Maybe in a way that you or
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  Speaker 2: I are that are, you know, we have a fire
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  Speaker 2: under us. Like we're getting after it. We're aggressive about
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  Speaker 2: our future. What would you say to them?
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  Speaker 3: I would start off by saying that I have been
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  Speaker 3: at such a low point in my life before that
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  Speaker 3: if I did not make a change, I would have
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  Speaker 3: starved to death. And I'm not talking like I missed
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  Speaker 3: a meal every, you know, couple of days. I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: like I was eating every couple of days, if that.
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  Speaker 3: And basically I had to have something to look forward to,
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  Speaker 3: to build toward. And it's not just seeing, Hey, I
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  Speaker 3: want to hit this goal or I want to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: be rich one day. It's, Something very specific. And for
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  Speaker 3: me right now, it's a house and a family. I
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  Speaker 3: need to be able to make enough money to support
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  Speaker 3: my family. I don't want my wife to have to work.
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  Speaker 3: And houses are very expensive. I understand the economy is awful.
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  Speaker 3: But all we can do is do everything in our
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  Speaker 3: power to not only survive, but find ways to thrive.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of people take for granted
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  Speaker 3: the fact that we were born here. We have the
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  Speaker 3: education at levels that many other people who come here don't.
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  Speaker 3: And we also know that if you just take small
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  Speaker 3: steps at a time, I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: don't know that. As you said, I'm stuck in this bubble.
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  Speaker 3: But if you see what you're working towards and you
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  Speaker 3: start figuring out the steps to get there, It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: seem impossible. Like I needed a new car because the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: one I had was on its last leg. I figured
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  Speaker 3: out how much I needed to save and I really
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  Speaker 3: cut back and I started working harder than I probably
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  Speaker 3: ever have in my life. And now I have the
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  Speaker 3: car and then the next is the house and I
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  Speaker 3: am on the road to saving up for that down payment.
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  Speaker 3: So don't give up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give up.
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  Speaker 2: It takes taking the smallest baby steps in the right
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  Speaker 2: direction to get your footing sometimes. And I know I
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  Speaker 2: knew you during that time of your life. I know
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  Speaker 2: how hard it was for you and how survival became
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  Speaker 2: the main thing. And I've experienced life and death scenarios
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  Speaker 2: in the last few years as.
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  Speaker 1: Well out of my control. And you have to realize
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  Speaker 1: that this life is the life that we get. And
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  Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want with it.
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  Speaker 2: But if you truly have your head on straight and
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  Speaker 2: you want to do good and you want to grow
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  Speaker 2: your family and you want to do something that's you're
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  Speaker 2: the provider or you're going to make the difference, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to be the change.
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  Speaker 1: You have to first make that decision to change your mindset.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the whole reason that callous mindset exists is
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  Speaker 2: to share that story because I didn't decide to start
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  Speaker 2: a podcast until I had faced, I, Just circumstances so
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  Speaker 2: far out of your control that you have to give
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  Speaker 2: up things that you hold so dearly, like working, working
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  Speaker 2: a job, because all you can do is lay there
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  Speaker 2: in pain and you have no other choice. You can't
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  Speaker 2: do anything yourself because you're disabled. And I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: a physical injury, for example, where work doesn't even cross
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  Speaker 2: your mind anymore because you're just trying to truly survive.
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  Speaker 1: You're just trying to get better.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people that they squander the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity of being healthy away the same way that they
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  Speaker 2: squander the opportunity to take advantage of this country in
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  Speaker 2: the way that can build you and yourself and other people.
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  Speaker 2: And to see you taking that mindset over the last
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: few years, you've developed it, you've been growing it.
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  Speaker 1: I've been developing mine and growing mine.
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  Speaker 2: And I truly think that if we keep this and
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  Speaker 2: we keep growing it, we'll affect other people by telling
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  Speaker 2: our story, but we'll also create jobs.
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  Speaker 1: We'll create opportunities, we'll create value.
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  Speaker 2: And value, one thing is a common misconception is people
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  Speaker 2: think they're paid for their time.
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  Speaker 1: They're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're paid for the value that they bring to the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: world through either what they know or what they can accomplish,
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  Speaker 2: what they can multiply, what they can reproduce. The reason
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  Speaker 2: that I was able to negotiate a salary that is
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: like a couple or a few salaries a year. in
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  Speaker 2: my last role was because I was able to generate
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  Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars across several years for someone
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  Speaker 2: that owned the company. That wasn't just time.
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  Speaker 1: That was value and the know-how to be able to
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  Speaker 1: produce something and build something.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same with business owners. You don't get paid
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  Speaker 2: because you decide to start a business. You get paid
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  Speaker 2: when that business is of value and you have enough
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  Speaker 2: clients you're valuable for to pay for your cost until
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  Speaker 2: then you're losing money so right now how i see
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  Speaker 2: it is if you're not saving money if you're not
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  Speaker 2: investing to become passive and eventually not have to work
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  Speaker 2: full-time with your time you're losing money until that day
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  Speaker 2: until you start building it right and so even though
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  Speaker 2: i'm making a lot less money this year than i
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  Speaker 2: have the last few years at the top of sales
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  Speaker 2: at the top of my game at these tech companies
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  Speaker 2: and you know other places Now I'm in a position
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  Speaker 2: to drive my own car that I own, even though
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  Speaker 2: I'm in debt because I had to borrow money to
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  Speaker 2: start it, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I can go where I want to go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to go at the speed or at
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  Speaker 2: the direction that someone else who is not very, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have my best interest in mind of where I want
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  Speaker 2: to go, right?
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  Speaker 1: And so the whole idea is.
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  Speaker 2: Just growing and understanding what's actually happening in your life
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  Speaker 2: as an individual to benefit yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been cool watching you grow the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all about taking that first step. And I
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  Speaker 3: guess the final thing I'd like to say is if
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  Speaker 3: you don't know what steps to take, find people who
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  Speaker 3: do and ask. A lot of people love sharing their
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  Speaker 3: knowledge about how they got places. I'm not talking that
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  Speaker 3: they have to be super wealthy or anything, but successful
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  Speaker 3: to the point where they're not concerned. about the, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if I don't go to work tomorrow, am I going
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  Speaker 3: to pay the bill? I work with a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people who, you know, they started where I was. They
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: had no knowledge about how to do this job. And
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: now they're multimillionaires because they kept asking the people who
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: were doing it successful or successfully, how do I do this?
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  Speaker 3: What is my next step? How do I grow beyond
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  Speaker 3: where I'm at now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I agree. The least you can do
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  Speaker 1: is ask.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it really is like if you have no
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: value to offer, find someone who is and ask them,
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  Speaker 2: how can I help? How can I, you know, how
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  Speaker 2: can I spend my time to help you partner with someone,
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  Speaker 2: do something that's different and outside of your comfort zone
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  Speaker 2: and it will benefit you.
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  Speaker 1: And so Cutter, I appreciate you coming on the show today.
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  Speaker 2: Whether our audience and people watching agree with everything we've
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  Speaker 2: discussed today, or if you don't, these types of conversations, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they do matter. Free thinking and being able
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: to express your personal beliefs do matter, whether you agree
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  Speaker 2: with them or not.
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  Speaker 1: And being able to change your own beliefs when you
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: have been believing something that you, maybe it's not true.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know for a fact, I grew up with
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: certain beliefs that I had to change. And I have beliefs,
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  Speaker 1: even in the last few weeks, I was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: weird because my whole life I thought this. And then
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  Speaker 1: today at my mid thirties, I learned that I've been
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: wrong my whole life about something. Right. Me too.
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  Speaker 2: So just, just be open-minded, you know, be willing to
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  Speaker 2: challenge yourself with your own beliefs and having honest conversations.
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  Speaker 2: And if you enjoyed today's episode, make sure to subscribe,
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  Speaker 2: leave a review, find us online until next time. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for joining the callous mindset. Keep challenging yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.