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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:11The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:14where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:21we are going to talk a little bit about birth order,
- 0:24one of my absolute favorite topics.
- 0:27And for those of you that have more than one child and or you have siblings,
- 0:34This will hopefully give you a lot of perspective about how much insight you can have
- 0:40based on the
- 0:41birth order role
- 0:43in
- 0:44your children and or in your family of origin,
- 0:48if you have siblings.
- 0:50And obviously,
- 0:51I'm not going to be able to dive into every single birth order role,
- 0:54and I'm not going to be able to look at each individual thing,
- 0:57but I really want to hit highlights here.
- 1:00And
- 1:02if you have questions,
- 1:04if you want to process some things with me,
- 1:06please shoot me an email.
- 1:07It's one of my favorite topics.
- 1:08I,
- 1:09I've spoken on it.
- 1:10I've done workshops on it.
- 1:11I've read lots of books.
- 1:13I think it's just so fascinating because you don't even need to know.
- 1:17The person and you can hear what birth order role
- 1:20they are and you can with pretty high levels of accuracy
- 1:24predict what their personality is like because
- 1:26the roles in your family
- 1:29influence
- 1:30who you are as a person.
- 1:32And so I want to kind of go big picture
- 1:34and then,
- 1:34you know,
- 1:35specificity,
- 1:35you know,
- 1:36if you want more details,
- 1:37reach out to me,
- 1:38brnna at the kid counselor.com.
- 1:39But here's what's really fascinating.
- 1:41When I sit down with parents,
- 1:42they're sharing with me,
- 1:43you know,
- 1:44what's going on,
- 1:45why they're seeking therapy,
- 1:47what the struggles are,
- 1:48etc.
- 1:49And one of the most helpful things that
- 1:52a parent tells me is
- 1:54the age of the child and what other siblings are in the home.
- 1:58Because what
- 2:00happens if you know birth order
- 2:02is you can largely understand what the dynamics are.
- 2:07So typically what goes on when a parent's talking to me is I'm thinking,
- 2:12OK,
- 2:12how many age,
- 2:14how many years apart are the children in age?
- 2:17Is it
- 2:18same sex or different sex siblings?
- 2:21How many siblings?
- 2:23And where does this one fall?
- 2:25So overarchingly,
- 2:28If you have an oldest,
- 2:30you're going to likely
- 2:33understand.
- 2:34Perfectionistic,
- 2:35people pleasing,
- 2:37driven,
- 2:37ambitious.
- 2:39Always wanting to keep the boat steady,
- 2:42making sure that they tow the line,
- 2:44do what they're supposed to do,
- 2:46don't make waves.
- 2:48The quote good child.
- 2:50Almost across the board.
- 2:51Now,
- 2:52let me be really clear,
- 2:53there are role reversals.
- 2:55So sometimes
- 2:57an oldest,
- 2:57for example,
- 2:58does not take first born traits.
- 3:02They don't become what I just described,
- 3:04which means the 2nd or 3rd child can take it because it's up for grabs.
- 3:08So sometimes a role reversal is evident as well,
- 3:11but generally an oldest is going to have the traits that I just talked about,
- 3:15or you have a youngest.
- 3:18Life of the party,
- 3:19super fun,
- 3:20very social.
- 3:22Everyone wants to be around them,
- 3:24friends with everybody.
- 3:26Difficult time being ambitious,
- 3:28difficult time making decisions,
- 3:29difficult time executing things because everyone in
- 3:32the family always does everything for them,
- 3:35including siblings and parents.
- 3:37And you have middle children,
- 3:39largely forgotten,
- 3:40largely ignored.
- 3:42They're the peacemakers.
- 3:44And they
- 3:46typically are the most.
- 3:49Interested and committed to friends because friends fill the void.
- 3:54Oldest get attention for being smart and capable.
- 3:58Youngest get attention for being the babies,
- 4:00and middles don't really get a lot of attention,
- 4:02so their attention turns outside of the family
- 4:05to their friendships.
- 4:06Friends are so important to middle children.
- 4:09They're peacemakers.
- 4:10They know how to pacify everybody.
- 4:12They know how to keep everyone kind of calm and settled.
- 4:17So
- 4:18it's so fascinating when a parent sits down
- 4:21and starts talking.
- 4:23And I
- 4:24am putting pieces together of birth order rolls and then I say,
- 4:27OK,
- 4:27so you have 2 boys,
- 4:29they're 2 years apart.
- 4:30You just described the oldest.
- 4:32I'm going to take a guess at how the youngest is.
- 4:37And they haven't even given me any information on the youngest,
- 4:39but I literally just described the polar opposite
- 4:42of what they described as the oldest,
- 4:44and it's 99% of the time right on the money.
- 4:47Why?
- 4:48Because same-sex siblings close in age.
- 4:51are very competitive,
- 4:53a lot of rivalry,
- 4:54a lot of jealousy,
- 4:56and they
- 4:57are about as far apart as you can get personality wise.
- 5:02So,
- 5:03here's why we're talking about this,
- 5:05because it is really important to understand.
- 5:08That part of your child's personality is because of their birth order.
- 5:13Nothing they can do about it.
- 5:15They didn't choose when they got born.
- 5:18They didn't choose that they had an older sibling or a younger sibling or no siblings
- 5:21or 6 siblings.
- 5:23None of that was in their control,
- 5:24but
- 5:25the circumstances dictate part of their personality.
- 5:28Another component,
- 5:30you also have a birth order
- 5:32from your family of origin.
- 5:34For example,
- 5:35I'm an oldest sister of a brother.
- 5:38So I know what it's like to be an oldest child.
- 5:42I know what it's like to have a younger brother.
- 5:47What's fascinating is the way that we parent.
- 5:50is influenced by our own birth order.
- 5:55So what we find in research
- 5:57is that oldest children parents relate most to their oldest child.
- 6:03Youngest child parents relate most to their youngest child.
- 6:08There's always a connection because you know what it's like to be that birth role.
- 6:14You don't know what it's like to be the baby.
- 6:16Here's a fun fact for you.
- 6:18I'm the only
- 6:19oldest in my family of origin.
- 6:21My mom,
- 6:22my dad,
- 6:22and my brother are all youngest.
- 6:25I'm the only oldest in the whole family.
- 6:28They all get each other.
- 6:30They all think the same.
- 6:32They all behave the same.
- 6:33They all see the world through the same lens.
- 6:35They operate very similarly.
- 6:37Obviously they're different people,
- 6:39so there's some differences,
- 6:40but generally
- 6:41in the grand scheme of things,
- 6:42the three of them get each other.
- 6:45And they don't really get me all that well.
- 6:48And they don't really connect with me all that well.
- 6:51Because
- 6:52none of them have ever been an oldest child.
- 6:55And I've never been a youngest,
- 6:56but all three of them have been youngests,
- 6:58so you can see the dynamic there.
- 7:02So your own birth order role also influences how you parent.
- 7:05It influences who you choose as a spouse.
- 7:07It influences your friends.
- 7:09It influences so many things.
- 7:10It's one of the most fascinating constructs.
- 7:12That's why I love it so much.
- 7:14If you want to read a book,
- 7:15I often get asked like,
- 7:16what book would you recommend if we want to look into this?
- 7:20Birth Order and You
- 7:22by the Richardsons.
- 7:23It's a husband and wife team.
- 7:25Birth Order and You by the Richardsons.
- 7:28I love that book.
- 7:29It's an old book,
- 7:31like published a while ago,
- 7:33but I love it because it goes through.
- 7:37What is a natural tendency for who you pick as a friend?
- 7:41What's your natural tendency for who you pick as a spouse?
- 7:44What's your natural tendency for who you click with?
- 7:46What's your natural tendency for the way that you parent?
- 7:50If you are an oldest child in your family of origin.
- 7:55You may have a little bit of harbored resentment
- 7:58toward your youngest child
- 8:00because
- 8:01you might have a little bit of harbored resentment
- 8:04that you always had to be so responsible
- 8:06and you always got in trouble
- 8:08and you always had to do everything right
- 8:10and you watched your youngest sibling get away with murder.
- 8:15And
- 8:16you were like,
- 8:16that is so unfair.
- 8:18I never would have been able to do that.
- 8:20I was never able to have that kind of freedom.
- 8:23They never get in trouble for anything,
- 8:25and you grew up with a little bit of resentment
- 8:28that
- 8:28your youngest sibling
- 8:30could do anything and there were never any consequences.
- 8:33Well,
- 8:34you might be really harsh on your youngest child.
- 8:38Because you refuse to let your youngest child get away with anything,
- 8:42because you still have a little bit of resentment from your own childhood.
- 8:45And there's all kinds of other examples there.
- 8:48So what I'm hopeful is that this conversation
- 8:50is at least sparking some food for thought.
- 8:53And at the very least,
- 8:54you're starting to think,
- 8:55wow,
- 8:55OK,
- 8:55so yeah,
- 8:56my oldest does kind of act like that and my middle does kind of act like that,
- 8:59and my youngest does act like that.
- 9:01These aren't character flaws.
- 9:02These aren't issues.
- 9:03These aren't problems.
- 9:04This is the byproduct of
- 9:06growing up in your family.
- 9:09Your personality was largely dictated by your birth order
- 9:12role and or you had a role reversal.
- 9:15So if you're youngest and you're like,
- 9:16no way,
- 9:17my older brother is like
- 9:20an absolute moron,
- 9:21like,
- 9:21has never been successful a day in his life,
- 9:24like has nothing going for him.
- 9:25OK,
- 9:25well,
- 9:26you probably role reversed then.
- 9:28So he didn't take firstborn traits,
- 9:30so you took them,
- 9:31and you're the successful,
- 9:32driven,
- 9:33ambitious one.
- 9:34But it still
- 9:36shaped your personality
- 9:38because
- 9:39you would not have become that had your brother taken that role,
- 9:42but it was open,
- 9:43so you grabbed it.
- 9:45So please
- 9:46look into it a little bit,
- 9:47if nothing else,
- 9:48because it really does help you understand
- 9:51why your kids behave a certain way,
- 9:53what their propensity is,
- 9:55what their tendencies are going to be,
- 9:57and they're not set in stone and it doesn't need to be rigid,
- 10:00and you don't want to box your kids in like,
- 10:02oh well,
- 10:02you're a middle child,
- 10:03so of course you're going to be.
- 10:05That's not the purpose.
- 10:06We still preserve relationship at all costs.
- 10:09We still unconditionally accept our children no matter what.
- 10:13But at least it will provide maybe some insight and perspective
- 10:16so that you might be able to understand them
- 10:19more appropriately,
- 10:20relate to them more appropriately,
- 10:22and maybe even understand yourself in light of the way that you parent
- 10:26a little bit more.
- 10:28I hope that encourages you.
- 10:29I love y'all.
- 10:30I hope you have a great week.
- 10:31We'll talk again soon.
- 10:32Bye.
- 10:33Thank you for listening to
- 10:34the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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