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Mark Trumbo’s Angels offseason thoughts: Anthony Rendon buyout, Mike Trout status, What’s next? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Here's Mark Rumbo joining us on FT on a huge day.
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Speaker 1: Halo Territory was just announced as the newest addition to
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory network. Mark, great to have you on
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Speaker 1: the show. Congrats on being part of the newest show
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Speaker 1: and what can you tell us about it?
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy to eddy opportunity to do something
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Speaker 2: and ample free time as I guess a lot of
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Speaker 2: ex players tend to have, and this made a lot
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Speaker 2: of sense, so I said, you know, I think I
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Speaker 2: have something to contribute. At least. I watch a lot
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Speaker 2: of the games the Angels have played, for better or
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Speaker 2: worse in the last few years, so I am familiar
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Speaker 2: with the cummings and goings, and I think with my
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Speaker 2: co host Mike di Giovanna, should be a good mix
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Speaker 2: and hopefully the fans enjoy what we're able to provide.
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Speaker 1: Hey, give us a little taste of the first episode,
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Speaker 1: right so it's up there now, it's on the U
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Speaker 1: tube channel podcast as well. Give us a taste of
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Speaker 1: what the first episode is about, and also just to
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Speaker 1: mix in your thoughts on the Angels offseason so far.
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Speaker 2: I think the first episode basically covers what you just asked.
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Speaker 2: We kind of highlighted a few of the guys that
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Speaker 2: they've brought into the fold, some areas of need, and
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of just trying to paint a picture
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Speaker 2: of where this franchise is, where they're possibly headed or not.
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Speaker 2: And I know, you know, a lot of fans see
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Speaker 2: some of the big names remaining and think that, you know,
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Speaker 2: they'd be an excellent fit, Cody Bellinger being one of them.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think there's a lot of logic in
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Speaker 2: saying that he, you know, is probable. As much as
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Speaker 2: some people might like him, They need a center fielder.
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Speaker 2: You know, he provides excellent defense in a left handed bat,
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Speaker 2: which is also needed. Third base is a position that's
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Speaker 2: up in the air as well. They might have Christin
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Speaker 2: Moore start there, but he's another guy that's been you know,
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Speaker 2: to the big leagues, along with a few others. Netto
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Speaker 2: has panned out way better than most, But you know,
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Speaker 2: these guys are still learning on the fly, which I
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Speaker 2: think is incredibly tough, and it's kind of a new
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Speaker 2: thing because it's it's not the way it was. You
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Speaker 2: know when I was coming up and with AJ and
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Speaker 2: Eric as well, I'm sure you know you got ample
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Speaker 2: seasoning in the lower levels and then you know you were,
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Speaker 2: you know, prepared when you got up and I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you might be exposed to a few things, but some
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Speaker 2: of these guys are literally learning on the fly. And
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Speaker 2: I think that's part of what I was hearing last
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Speaker 2: year with the culture of the clubhouse. It was, you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe not what a veteran player would be as interested in,
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Speaker 2: with more of a classroom learning environment going on daily
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Speaker 2: talking about base running for twenty minutes. I know personally
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Speaker 2: that you know, wouldn't be something as a free agent
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Speaker 2: I would be interested in. So I think it's going
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Speaker 2: to be a lot better with the coaching staff they
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Speaker 2: brought in, and I think that's probably the biggest highlight
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Speaker 2: so far is some of the names they were able
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Speaker 2: to bring in, and they're kind of contrary to the
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Speaker 2: other hirings going on around the league. A lot of
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Speaker 2: ex players and a lot of guys with a lot
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Speaker 2: of experience. So maybe you guys can can give your
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Speaker 2: thoughts on that too. With John Gibbons and Brady Anderson
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Speaker 2: and Maddox and some of the other guys.
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Speaker 3: I want to see, I want to see what you
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Speaker 3: you said, you said, you watch this team all the time.
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Speaker 3: What did you see from this team? Not not like
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Speaker 3: the behind the scenes stuff like you were just talking
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Speaker 3: about how they were young, they got to talk about
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Speaker 3: like how to run the first base and the big
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Speaker 3: leagues and all that kind of stuff. But what did
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Speaker 3: you see on a night in a night out basis
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Speaker 3: that made you go like, this team just is not
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Speaker 3: like they need a little bit more time in Triple
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Speaker 3: A or they have this guy out of position.
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Speaker 2: Well that that playing out of position is one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest things. When you have an infielder in the outfield,
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Speaker 2: they're going to get exposed. And it's not the player's fault.
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Speaker 2: I was someone who roamed around a bit. You know,
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Speaker 2: they're opinions on my defense, which I would probably agree
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Speaker 2: with them for the most part. But it's a tall
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Speaker 2: task if you're you know, completely used to playing middle
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Speaker 2: infield and you're thrust out into right field. Ring GIFO
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Speaker 2: is the guy I'm kind of referring to here, What
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Speaker 2: are realistic expectations of a guy? I mean, it's it's
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Speaker 2: kind of ludicrous to think he's gonna, you know, be
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Speaker 2: a seamless fit. But I saw a team that had
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Speaker 2: some moments, but inevitably, you know, once the All Star
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Speaker 2: break kind of came around, it only went one way,
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Speaker 2: and by September completely out of it, you know, with
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Speaker 2: injuries mounting, and it just wasn't it wasn't an op
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Speaker 2: you know for fans. I don't know. I think there's
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Speaker 2: pretty much two camps. Those that are eternally optimistic and
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Speaker 2: always hope for the best, I guess, and I think
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Speaker 2: most probably fall into the slightly skeptical, if not totally
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Speaker 2: cynical range, where there wondering what is the direction? You know,
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Speaker 2: A lot of relievers signed this winter. Thirty five years
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Speaker 2: and older. Drew Pomerance I think was actually an excellent sign.
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Speaker 2: You know, from facing him. He is a very tough
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Speaker 2: at bat, and he's still you know, it seems to
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Speaker 2: not really age. So that's a great addition. Grayson Rodriguez
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Speaker 2: should be a very nice fit if healthy. And then
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Speaker 2: you got some flyers with Manoa and Romano amongst others.
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Speaker 4: All right, sorry, I just I thought I thought we
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Speaker 4: were Are we showing these off?
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Speaker 5: Just just me and just Crat you have one of these,
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Speaker 5: because just Mark, hang off, Just hang on, I'm Mark
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Speaker 5: and I we're showing these off right, Oh, sorry.
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Speaker 3: I can't reach mine. Oh actually I wasn't good enough
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Speaker 3: to hit to get one.
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Speaker 5: So anyway, I didn't know we were showing that Marquez
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Speaker 5: is behind him, so I'm just oh, I didn't know
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Speaker 5: the yeah that I was just Oh, that silver bat
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Speaker 5: thing that he has, Yeah, we have one of those
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Speaker 5: on the set.
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Speaker 2: Too, Mark, I guess if you know, you know, I
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Speaker 2: don't have a ton of.
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Speaker 4: They won't even let them on this. They won't even
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Speaker 4: let me put mine on the set.
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Speaker 5: I had to ask one of our guys behind the
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Speaker 5: scenes to bring mine to me, so I'm not even
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Speaker 5: allowed to show mine off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad it's there, though a little bit reflective,
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Speaker 2: but you know it's nice.
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Speaker 1: We all don't have a camera like you do that
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Speaker 1: tell the podcast c because people.
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Speaker 4: Sorry.
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Speaker 5: Later, Mark has a Silver Slugger behind him, so I
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Speaker 5: had to get Michael Beard to get mine. He gah
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Speaker 5: socks on too. For those women out there that are wondering, Yes,
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Speaker 5: he has sucks anymore.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't sleep, but silver Slugger two time All Star
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Speaker 1: forty seven homers was the season high. They had a
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Speaker 1: nice three times over thirty.
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Speaker 4: Very nice career, very nice career mark.
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Speaker 5: But here's my question for the for Angels fans out there,
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Speaker 5: and you watch the Angels much more than I do.
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Speaker 4: Can they find enough pitching? Ever? Can they ever find
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Speaker 4: enough pitching?
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Speaker 5: It's always like, gosh, we have these position players, we
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Speaker 5: have this, we have that, and then they never and
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Speaker 5: then when they try to sign a picture it's a
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Speaker 5: short term deal. It doesn't seem like it works out.
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Speaker 5: Can the Angels ever find pitching enough to get them
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Speaker 5: back into this race in the Al West?
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Speaker 2: Well? I mean, how do you where do pictures come from?
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Speaker 2: You either develop them, which they've you know, a very
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Speaker 2: poor track record, if I'm being honest, I think that
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Speaker 2: when I was there it was slightly better, but it
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Speaker 2: was never really a strength. Some organizations just churn them out. Tampa,
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Speaker 2: the Braves, you know, others that come to mind, and
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Speaker 2: you kind of wonder, you know, especially when you're coming
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Speaker 2: up with an organization, where are they finding these guys?
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Speaker 2: Or you know, why are they so hard to hit?
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Speaker 2: And I think with the advanced metrics data and everything else,
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Speaker 2: now it's becoming clear at least some of the you know,
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Speaker 2: secrets to what has been going on there hitting is
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Speaker 2: still you know, the wild West, although I see guys
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Speaker 2: going to various instructors in the off season that are
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Speaker 2: popular currently. But the other way to do it is
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Speaker 2: to free agents, and you've got to pay to play. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: I believe Kakuchi was, says C. J. Well, I mean CJ.
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Speaker 2: Wilson was, to my memory, was the last guy that
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Speaker 2: signed for significant money, and then Kakuchi got a three
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Speaker 2: year deal for sixty seven million ish, you know, so
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Speaker 2: beyond that, if you go cheap, you get what you get,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes it works out, but most of the time
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Speaker 2: it doesn't. Always you know what the fans are looking for,
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Speaker 2: and when you take flyers, you're putting a lot of
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Speaker 2: pressure on the pitching coach to sometimes work magic. In
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Speaker 2: the case of a Kirby Yates, you know, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of history with him in mathematics, so I think
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Speaker 2: that's another good one. But as far as starting pitching,
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Speaker 2: you know, especially with injuries, I think last year they
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Speaker 2: were very fortunate. They had a lot of health, and
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Speaker 2: you know, they have some guys with some good stuff. Soriano.
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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of read Debt Meers and you
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Speaker 2: know a few others, but they're still lacking significantly when
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Speaker 2: compared to you know, the Dodgers, Blue Jays and others.
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Speaker 3: A man team that spends some money. You kind of
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Speaker 3: mentioned it. The Angels should be a destination, Mike, who
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to go to southern California and play there
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Speaker 3: and is way less pressure than if you went and
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Speaker 3: played for the Dodgers. Not that pressure is a bad thing.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, free agent wise, shouldn't they be able
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Speaker 3: to make Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, of southern California
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Speaker 3: a destination for free agents to go to?
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Speaker 2: It once was, and you know, not that long ago,
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Speaker 2: living near the beach. There's nothing not to like, guys.
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Speaker 2: You know that part of it is always a plus,
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Speaker 2: But it is very hard to convince a guy that
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Speaker 2: has options, especially you know, if you have four or
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Speaker 2: five different teams that are interested in willing to offer
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Speaker 2: similarish money, why would you go to one that you
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Speaker 2: know is unfortunately probably going to be out of it
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Speaker 2: after the All Star break. That can make for an
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Speaker 2: incredibly long year. I think that that's the biggest thing
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Speaker 2: in my mind. And then you're going to have to deal,
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Speaker 2: you know, if you have a no trade clause, then
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Speaker 2: you can have more control over that, but you're probably
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Speaker 2: going to be somebody that's dangled out there and could
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Speaker 2: be going somewhere that you really don't want to or
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Speaker 2: somewhere that's better. So I think it starts with coming
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Speaker 2: up with a team that's at least capable of finishing
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Speaker 2: five hundred and then building from there. I don't see
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Speaker 2: the current talent being capable of much better than that.
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Speaker 2: I could be very surprised, and I'll eat my words
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Speaker 2: if so, but I think five hundred would be, you know,
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Speaker 2: a goal. That is it realistic? I hope it is,
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure on their end they think of it
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Speaker 2: that it is. But as far as a playoff team,
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Speaker 2: I think there's still quite a ways away.
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Speaker 5: It's just such amazing to hear me say this, because
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Speaker 5: I mean, when I came up to the Angels, they
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Speaker 5: want a World Series. I lost them in the LCS
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Speaker 5: in two thousand and two, and every year they were
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs, in the playoff on just they were.
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Speaker 5: She went to Anaheim and they had the thundersticks in
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Speaker 5: the rally. It was like, man, it was. It was
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Speaker 5: just a tough team to play against. For all those years,
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Speaker 5: So to hear you say what you're saying for all
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Speaker 5: these years and not being in the playoffs, just it
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Speaker 5: kind of breaks my heart a little bit, even though
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Speaker 5: the Angels fans don't exactly love me.
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Speaker 4: But my question for you is what of the young
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Speaker 4: guys can take the next step?
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Speaker 2: Mark?
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Speaker 5: Is it Netto that continues to get is it Shannewell?
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Speaker 5: Is it Christian Moore? Do we have a HOPI take,
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Speaker 5: you know, take a giant lead forward. Who's the guy
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Speaker 5: that you would put your money on to take the
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Speaker 5: next step and become a star?
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Speaker 2: Netto already is a borderline one. I mean, if you
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Speaker 2: look at some of the you know, war is not
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Speaker 2: my favorite step, but I know it's you know, I
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Speaker 2: people understand some of it at least. But you know,
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Speaker 2: he ranks extremely highly. You know, he can do a lot.
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Speaker 2: I at first, probably like most a guy that's thrust
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Speaker 2: into the big leagues that quick, who knows, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's sink or swim, And he's more than held his own.
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Speaker 2: I think that there's you know, a few incidents where
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Speaker 2: his emotions can get the better of him. So I
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Speaker 2: think that that's one area he can continue to work
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Speaker 2: on and develop, you know, some more leadership. I think
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Speaker 2: o'hapi is a very interesting one to me. He shows
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Speaker 2: signs of someone who could be a perennial All Star,
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Speaker 2: and in the next breath it seems like either he loses,
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Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of confidence or something happens
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Speaker 2: in the game, you know it. Unfortunately last year it
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Speaker 2: wasn't a pretty pitcher on both sides of the ball.
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Speaker 2: I know it was catching was something he was very
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Speaker 2: focused on in AJA. Well, both of you guys can
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Speaker 2: probably expand upon that, but I think it's it's got
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Speaker 2: to be incredibly hard if you know that you rate
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Speaker 2: very poorly defensively in the framing department, you know, and
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Speaker 2: pitch calling and other things, and you're trying to make
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Speaker 2: that better all the while produce at at a high
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Speaker 2: level on offense. And it seemed like it was just
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Speaker 2: a too tall a task. And I know I saw
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Speaker 2: some interviews at the end where he was going to
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Speaker 2: cut out some of the noise and hopefully get back to,
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Speaker 2: you know, what he trusts to work. Channewell is a
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Speaker 2: guy that's I think we kind of know what we're
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Speaker 2: going to get out of him. I have seen improvements
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Speaker 2: on defense, which is nice. He's not going to hit
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Speaker 2: that many home runs, there's no other way to put it.
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Speaker 2: I think he's explored that. But the best version of
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Speaker 2: him is going to be probably twelve to fifteen home
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Speaker 2: runs and getting on base. Although he's you know, not
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Speaker 2: gifted with foot speed like most guys that are table setters,
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Speaker 2: but that is his game. Christian Moore is kind of
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Speaker 2: an unknown. He very athletic, you know, obviously a high
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Speaker 2: draft pick. It seems like he's got a lot of
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Speaker 2: pop in the bat, but from when I saw last year,
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Speaker 2: he changed his stance multiple times, so I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that was his decision or or someone else's. And
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Speaker 2: when he got, you know, some chances in the big leagues,
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Speaker 2: it didn't look like the game sped up on him.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he was able to really showcase
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Speaker 2: his talent all that much either.
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Speaker 3: All right, now that you got your own show, everybody's
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Speaker 3: gonna want to know Mike Trout when you hear that
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Speaker 3: name and when you watch this team and when you
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Speaker 3: think back to your ex teammate, you guys are both
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Speaker 3: young in the big leagues. Obviously, he's a few years
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Speaker 3: younger than you. What do you see not only from
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Speaker 3: his career before this season as the next step for
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Speaker 3: him to continue his ridiculous career.
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Speaker 2: Well, career wise, it speaks for itself. You know, even
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Speaker 2: when the team was not doing much, he was doing
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Speaker 2: a lot. And it's almost goofy to look at the
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Speaker 2: career numbers, and I mean I knew right away he
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Speaker 2: was light years better than me and light years better
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Speaker 2: than everyone else, you know, and you know, all the
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Speaker 2: while having an attitude of you know, just a playful,
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Speaker 2: you know, care free, not totally, but I just vividly
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Speaker 2: remember being stressed out of my mind in Oakland one day,
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Speaker 2: you know, not my best. Let's say I'm looking over
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Speaker 2: at him and just has this big smile, and I
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Speaker 2: was somewhat envious, like, yeah, you know, if I got
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Speaker 2: three hits and I'd probably be smiling too, But it
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Speaker 2: just seemed like the game came very easy. But he's
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Speaker 2: at a point now where unfortunately, these injuries have started
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Speaker 2: to compound and it's very tough. I know, he's got
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Speaker 2: a knee that isn't cooperating. It's probably as somebody that
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Speaker 2: had a big knee injury myself, I can kind of
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Speaker 2: testify that once it starts swelling on you. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's it's really a tough thing to manage. And you
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Speaker 2: want to go out there, you want to post, you
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Speaker 2: want to play, but the body might you know, it's
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Speaker 2: just a saying, it's it's not the way. As far
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Speaker 2: as outfield defense, again, here are some rumors that he
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Speaker 2: might be playing some center field. Last year, defense wasn't
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Speaker 2: a thing. They got a logjam with stillaire. I don't
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Speaker 2: see a fit for him on this ball club. So
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Speaker 2: maybe they're able to move him, or maybe they just
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Speaker 2: eat it. But you know, I have high hopes for Mike.
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Speaker 2: I know, he was a tremendous teammate to me. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's always been somewhat under the radar with the media
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Speaker 2: and whatnot, and I think he plays the game for
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Speaker 2: the right reasons and i'd love to see, you know,
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Speaker 2: a big resurgence one area. I'd really like to because
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Speaker 2: he's capable of so much. As the batting average, well
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Speaker 2: it might not be popular to everyone, I still think
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Speaker 2: it's incredibly important. And he's capable of hitting a lot
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Speaker 2: better than two thirty, so I think that, you know,
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Speaker 2: for him, i'd like to see that improve even if
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Speaker 2: nobody else cares. I think that that you know, you
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Speaker 2: don't want to look up there and see that when
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Speaker 2: you're a guy that's a career three hundred hitter. Maybe
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but you know, aj what do you think?
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Speaker 5: I agree, I'm a batting average guy, but it doesn't
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Speaker 5: matter that so much gets you paid. And you know what, Mark,
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Speaker 5: like you said you hate war. I'm also not a
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Speaker 5: huge war because no one can actually calculate or tell
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Speaker 5: you how it's calculating. There's different versions of it, and
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Speaker 5: it's like every person that we have on here, like
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Speaker 5: I don't really like works that when it gets you paid, right,
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Speaker 5: So hitting homers like you did it gets you paid.
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Speaker 5: So also you mentioned them eating Celaire's money, Like how
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Speaker 5: much money is already moreno gonna eat because he's eating
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Speaker 5: Rendon's money. Right, So man, if I'm already Morino, a'most
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Speaker 5: like I'm just I'm hungry. I'm eating all the money
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Speaker 5: of bad, bad players.
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Speaker 4: Do I mean? When you said that, I was like, oh, man,
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Speaker 4: I forgot he was even on the team.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's sixteen million. You know, I think I'd rather
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Speaker 2: just do it all at once. If if it were
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Speaker 2: me and it's not me for so but Rendon, that
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Speaker 2: didn't work at all, you think. I think I watched
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Speaker 2: this all the time, and I watched you know, various
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Speaker 2: versions of him. He came back, and the best version
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Speaker 2: was it was what it way. He was a singles hitter,
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Speaker 2: but he was getting on base and the defense was okay.
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Speaker 2: The arm looked a little, you know, it was passable,
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Speaker 2: but he was in there and he was contribute. But
18:00
Speaker 2: for the most part, you know, just a shell of
18:02
Speaker 2: the player he was for the Nationals, and I know
18:05
Speaker 2: that's not what he wanted. I don't want to be
18:07
Speaker 2: too hard on him, but I think it was also
18:09
Speaker 2: tough because he was so averse to communicating with the media.
18:15
Speaker 2: You know, various instances, you know, hostile, and that could
18:19
Speaker 2: just be him, but I think he fell short in
18:22
Speaker 2: that role or as a player. It's it's part of
18:25
Speaker 2: the deal. You know, you have a great game, you
18:27
Speaker 2: post it your locker and it's easy. And likewise, on
18:30
Speaker 2: the flip side, you know, sometimes you got to be
18:32
Speaker 2: accountable and you got to give an explanation, even if
18:34
Speaker 2: it's not a topic you love, and he didn't do
18:37
Speaker 2: much of that. So I think his memories are going
18:40
Speaker 2: to be, you know, maybe the cast fighting. You know,
18:44
Speaker 2: they get into a brawl one time, and then Oakland
18:46
Speaker 2: Fan and some other things. And it's unfortunate because I
18:49
Speaker 2: have heard that, you know, as a teammate, he does
18:51
Speaker 2: do a very nice job. But for fans that are watching,
18:54
Speaker 2: you don't. You can't really make sense of you know,
18:57
Speaker 2: what he's about or what he's trying to do.
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Speaker 5: All right, Mark, by the way, you had, you had
19:01
Speaker 5: an unbelievable career. You had, You had a great career.
19:04
Speaker 5: You made a lot of money. But I have to
19:05
Speaker 5: bring up one story with you, and you might not
19:07
Speaker 5: even remember this, but I remember this story and it's
19:10
Speaker 5: the only time in my career that this play actually worked.
19:13
Speaker 5: You were on third and it was first and third,
19:15
Speaker 5: and you guys tried the old double steel trick and
19:17
Speaker 5: I did the old pump fake the second and you
19:20
Speaker 5: actually broke And the only time in my long career
19:23
Speaker 5: that it actually worked. You were trying to steal home
19:26
Speaker 5: on the old first and third double steal with two
19:28
Speaker 5: outs trick, and I did the pump fakes. So you
19:31
Speaker 5: don't even remember this because you were like, why am
19:33
Speaker 5: I trying to steal home. But for me, it was
19:35
Speaker 5: like the greatest moment of my life because I did
19:37
Speaker 5: the pump fake and you broke and we got you out,
19:40
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I can't believe somebody fell for it.
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Speaker 4: So thank you. I'm just saying thank you because it was. Yeah.
19:45
Speaker 4: I know, it's okay. You probably are like, what the
19:48
Speaker 4: hell is he talking about?
19:48
Speaker 2: But to me, it meant I think I think everybody
19:51
Speaker 2: should experience as much as you can in the game.
19:53
Speaker 2: And the fact that I was able to, I mean,
19:56
Speaker 2: how many times did you probably practice that, you know,
19:58
Speaker 2: throughout your.
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Speaker 4: Wa all the time?
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Speaker 5: Man, That's what I'm saying. How many times in spring
20:01
Speaker 5: training do you do the old pump fake? This is
20:03
Speaker 5: never gonna freaking work. And then the one time it worked,
20:06
Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, that actually did happen.
20:09
Speaker 2: There are not many base running highlights. There are plenty
20:12
Speaker 2: of low lights, but I thank you for reminding me.
20:16
Speaker 2: One thing I briefly was laughing about earlier was first
20:20
Speaker 2: got called up. We were playing you guys and playing
20:23
Speaker 2: first base in Anaheim, and I heard somebody I was
20:27
Speaker 2: playing and sure, yeah, I was nervous. But what really
20:32
Speaker 2: helped was your manager at the time Assie had gone
20:35
Speaker 2: all the way down to the end of the dugout
20:37
Speaker 2: and was yelling at me, cat calling me, you know,
20:40
Speaker 2: shaking visibly with his hands, saying I was nervous and
20:44
Speaker 2: I was going to make an error, and I was like,
20:47
Speaker 2: what in the world is this? And then I think
20:49
Speaker 2: he took him at Hank Conger pretended he had a grenade.
20:53
Speaker 2: I think he was talking about his throwing arm, and
20:57
Speaker 2: you know, it was good fun. I think Hank and
21:00
Speaker 2: his defense did throw out viscl who might have been
21:02
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of forty by that point, but
21:05
Speaker 2: you know it, I had a good time with that.
21:08
Speaker 2: And it kind of was like, Okay, you know this
21:10
Speaker 2: is a serious thing up here, but guys do still
21:13
Speaker 2: have some fun, and you know they're going to give
21:15
Speaker 2: it to you, so you better be able to take it.
21:17
Speaker 4: Yeah.
21:17
Speaker 5: It just it just got you ready for, you know,
21:21
Speaker 5: visiting fans to get on, because even get on.
21:23
Speaker 4: No manager does that anymore.
21:24
Speaker 5: Oh no, God, managers sit there like this. Then they
21:26
Speaker 5: look they look at their paper all the time. Every
21:28
Speaker 5: every manager is like, do you think can't show anyone?
21:33
Speaker 5: I want to know what's on the paper, conch coach.
21:35
Speaker 1: They looked at you don't want to even look at Meanwhile, Oz,
21:38
Speaker 1: he's like, hey Trumbo, you saw Trumbo.
21:41
Speaker 4: You're nervous.
21:42
Speaker 5: They probably called you by the wrong name too. He's
21:44
Speaker 5: probably like, hey, Trumpet Tumbo.
21:48
Speaker 2: It got the point across. I was going to pretend
21:51
Speaker 2: they try and do the accent, but I don't think
21:53
Speaker 2: anyone wants to really see that. Uh But you know,
21:56
Speaker 2: at first, I was like, you know, I looked over
21:59
Speaker 2: and he was staring dead at me. So I'm like, Okay,
22:02
Speaker 2: this is obviously coming my way. You nervous, you know,
22:05
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, yeah I am, but you know,
22:09
Speaker 2: uh so, And I think that might have been I
22:12
Speaker 2: don't know if it was my first start, but it
22:14
Speaker 2: could have been so welcome into the show.
22:17
Speaker 4: You probably homered off of us later. No, like every
22:20
Speaker 4: guy I was lucky to get.
22:23
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know the following season that that
22:26
Speaker 2: first call up, I was lucky to get hit on
22:28
Speaker 2: my very last bat. It was one for fifteen or something,
22:31
Speaker 2: so I didn't you know, you never know if there's
22:33
Speaker 2: going to be another opportunity. So I think that that
22:35
Speaker 2: memory stands out in Texas. You know, I think the
22:39
Speaker 2: game had gotten away from them. At that point. But
22:41
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to have it that worked, I think.
22:45
Speaker 1: But then the next season twenty nine homers, the next
22:47
Speaker 1: season thirty two homers, the next season thirty four homers.
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Speaker 4: I think it worked out.
22:50
Speaker 1: You figured it out, got you got unnervous, ohs plus is.
22:53
Speaker 2: But well, well let's stay on the yeah, on the
22:55
Speaker 2: offense and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Don't look will we'll keep hammering that. Hey, we're excited
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Speaker 1: about the show. We'll be listening. Welcome to the FT fan.
23:05
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Thank you guys, and thank you for
23:07
Speaker 2: the memory.
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Speaker 1: Aj Off to go look that up that one digest
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Speaker 1: for the day, Mark Trumbone with us.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Gus.
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23:28
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23:30
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