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- 0:03Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Into the open field.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Is gonna go to Pete? What it is? Monday, November eleventh.
- 0:19Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to
- 0:25Speaker 1: you by Jet Home Loans. Hey now a guy who's
- 0:28Speaker 1: canceled all his subscriptions because he already has enough issues.
- 0:33Speaker 1: J P. Shadrack was that shot? I liked it. That's
- 0:39Speaker 1: one of the best intros we've pad. I think there
- 0:41Speaker 1: was a shot that was outstanding. Joe glass Houses, by
- 0:44Speaker 1: the way, better not throw stones. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
- 0:47Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Homelands. J P. Shadrick Tony was
- 0:51Speaker 1: Sully here in Jacksonville, Pete Priscoe down in Fort Lauderdale,
- 0:55Speaker 1: coming off the bye week? Pete? What's going on? How
- 0:58Speaker 1: are you? What? You just doing your bye week? I
- 1:01Speaker 1: don't know what that is. I went to Boston to
- 1:04Speaker 1: watch Florida State Boston College play. Oh, no kidding, I
- 1:07Speaker 1: but that's a nice weekend. Uh. It was fun. Watched
- 1:10Speaker 1: my son's play and it was a good win. He
- 1:13Speaker 1: played well and it was fun to watch out. He
- 1:15Speaker 1: starting now? Is he starting now? Yeah? He starts the center. Yeah,
- 1:19Speaker 1: I remember he guy got hurt and he went in.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if he was still starting. He won
- 1:24Speaker 1: the Uh everyone, he won the job and starting now,
- 1:27Speaker 1: congratulations doing good. Yeah, it's fun. It was it was cold,
- 1:32Speaker 1: but I mean, have you spent much time in Boston.
- 1:35Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great city. I mean, just
- 1:39Speaker 1: a fabulous city. And Boston and uh in Boston College
- 1:46Speaker 1: is such a cool campus. You know, stadium right on campus,
- 1:49Speaker 1: thousand people just northeast. It's just cool. It was a
- 1:54Speaker 1: cool place. And uh, I didn't realize until I got
- 1:58Speaker 1: up there. But this is the name that Pete Risco.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Remember Pete Mitchell his number retired or uh not? He
- 2:06Speaker 1: was put up into the uh yeah, in the stadium.
- 2:10Speaker 1: They didn't retire his number, but ring honor, the ring
- 2:14Speaker 1: of honor. So he was so tailgated with Pete and
- 2:17Speaker 1: his family before the game and then uh at halftime
- 2:20Speaker 1: he was recognized. So it was cool. That's awesome that
- 2:23Speaker 1: had a video Tom Coughlin video at halftime. So I cringed,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you know, brought back like you can't get away from that.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Pete and I were laughing. Toun old coach Coughlin story.
- 2:35Speaker 1: So that was fun. It was pretty cool. Did you
- 2:38Speaker 1: Did you make your way onto the Italian North End
- 2:42Speaker 1: over there at all while you were there? Um, we
- 2:45Speaker 1: went we ate Italian one night on Newberry Street. I
- 2:47Speaker 1: don't know if that's considered. Yeah. The food was just
- 2:52Speaker 1: so good. I thought you were starting that diet. It
- 2:55Speaker 1: took a pause this weekend when you're on the road.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Just the the antipasta platter was just the bread, the pasta,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and the best part was so my wife. It was
- 3:12Speaker 1: just my wife and I went up and we're gonna
- 3:14Speaker 1: meet my son Friday night and at the Team hotel afterwards,
- 3:17Speaker 1: and he had texted me, he says, Dad, bring me
- 3:19Speaker 1: some food because he knew I was going to Itali
- 3:21Speaker 1: you and so I said okay, And so instead of
- 3:23Speaker 1: ordering him a meal, we just ordered a bunch of food,
- 3:27Speaker 1: knowing that we'd have a bunch of leftovers, and just
- 3:29Speaker 1: tried a little bit of everything. It was pretty good
- 3:32Speaker 1: weekend right there. What did I do? I sat around
- 3:35Speaker 1: the first couple of days, and then Saturday night was
- 3:38Speaker 1: the big benefit concert for St. Michael Michael Special Special
- 3:43Speaker 1: with the headliners with Van Boy. We saw your picture
- 3:46Speaker 1: with the Van Zants. We saw you big name drop
- 3:48Speaker 1: are you? It was pretty neat. That was a great
- 3:50Speaker 1: show down an Orange Park packed house and then um
- 3:53Speaker 1: we'll cook out. Yesterday watched a lot of football. It
- 3:55Speaker 1: was a good bye weekend, Pete. How was your bye weekend?
- 3:57Speaker 1: What did you do? I worked? What are you talking about?
- 4:00Speaker 1: By weekend is the only uh, the only disappointing thing
- 4:04Speaker 1: for my by weekend is and we I went back
- 4:07Speaker 1: and forth with my wife. Do we fly back Saturday
- 4:09Speaker 1: night after the game right afterwards and get home late
- 4:12Speaker 1: so I could be home Sunday to watch football all day?
- 4:15Speaker 1: Where do we stay in Boston for the night. I
- 4:16Speaker 1: wanted to stay in night the night in Boston and
- 4:18Speaker 1: catch the six am flight back so I can get
- 4:20Speaker 1: back for football. And she said, no, that's not gonna happen.
- 4:23Speaker 1: We're not doing that. So we slept in and caught
- 4:25Speaker 1: a flight where I was on the plane for all
- 4:27Speaker 1: the one o'clock games and then get back to the
- 4:30Speaker 1: four o'clock games. Miss you, miss I know I saw that. Man.
- 4:35Speaker 1: I was really disappointed. The TVs. You know, I was
- 4:40Speaker 1: on Delta and they did have we had TVs and
- 4:43Speaker 1: but the only game, uh that they were showing on
- 4:47Speaker 1: the plane live was the Jets Giants game, which was
- 4:53Speaker 1: it actually ended up being a pretty good game. I know,
- 4:55Speaker 1: but it's not that I mean, I didn't care like
- 4:58Speaker 1: I want to. How about the Titan Chiefs game. That
- 5:01Speaker 1: would have been a good, great game, great ending, good game.
- 5:05Speaker 1: We'll break all the games down. Coming up, we'll go
- 5:07Speaker 1: around the FC South as well. Here's what's coming up
- 5:09Speaker 1: on the program today, by weeks over the stretch run
- 5:12Speaker 1: Coming up, Nick Foles coming back to the lineup. He's
- 5:15Speaker 1: scheduled to speak with the media on Wednesday. We'll talk
- 5:18Speaker 1: a little defense as well. See where that group stands
- 5:21Speaker 1: going down the stretch. A f C playoff picture. I
- 5:24Speaker 1: don't know if it's quite coming into focus yet, but
- 5:27Speaker 1: it's more muddy than ever after this weekend, right Who's
- 5:31Speaker 1: not alive? That's the questions, social media questions, and around
- 5:35Speaker 1: there's you know, there's only a handful of teams that
- 5:37Speaker 1: aren't alive. Actually, everybody else is kind of inn it,
- 5:40Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I mean, the Aps aren't in it,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and the Dolphins aren't in it. Who else isn't in
- 5:45Speaker 1: the Bengals. The NFC is more defined, there's more teams
- 5:51Speaker 1: out of it. But the NC it is a It's
- 5:54Speaker 1: the wild, wild West, so Jaguars don't have to worry
- 5:57Speaker 1: about it. Tony already said the running the table. Yeah,
- 5:59Speaker 1: that was gonna follow up on that. Are you sticking
- 6:01Speaker 1: with your seven game lock, Tony? I lost the key, baby,
- 6:04Speaker 1: it's gone. There's no key to be found. Unlock those locks.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Seven in a row. Six, seven, okay, good? Seven? Yeah,
- 6:14Speaker 1: we're sticking to that. You're not more concerned about the
- 6:17Speaker 1: Raiders game after last week. I feel more confident than ever. Well,
- 6:21Speaker 1: you should feel more confident about the Chargers game, but
- 6:23Speaker 1: less confident about the Raiders game. I feel very good
- 6:27Speaker 1: about where we sit. The next two of the critical ones,
- 6:30Speaker 1: the two division games back to back on the road.
- 6:32Speaker 1: One of those division teams wasn't very good yesterday. Yeah,
- 6:35Speaker 1: but they're gonna get a bunch of guys back who
- 6:36Speaker 1: are hurt. Last yesterday against the Dolphins that we're talking about.
- 6:39Speaker 1: The Colts, another team was good, and the Titans beat
- 6:42Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the game that the Chiefs five. The
- 6:44Speaker 1: Chiefs have found ways to lose this year. Remarkably, every
- 6:47Speaker 1: team in the division beat the Chiefs except for us
- 6:50Speaker 1: UM By the way, here's one for you. If the
- 6:53Speaker 1: playoffs started today, the Steelers would be in and the
- 6:57Speaker 1: Steelers are as JP and I and Joe to gust
- 7:00Speaker 1: before because I'm doing that game Thursday night, Cleveland Pittsburgh.
- 7:03Speaker 1: There it's the uh, it's the throwback Steelers. It's like
- 7:07Speaker 1: defense wins the day for the Steelers. And a trade
- 7:10Speaker 1: that I was so against when it happened, trading on
- 7:13Speaker 1: one for making Fitzpatrick. I was wrong. He makes them
- 7:16Speaker 1: so much better. Him and the additions to him and
- 7:19Speaker 1: Devin Bush to that defense. They are really good, I
- 7:23Speaker 1: mean really good. And their schedule is easy. Man. They
- 7:26Speaker 1: got the Browns twice, the Bengals, they got a favorable schedule. Yeah,
- 7:30Speaker 1: to your point, Pete, the playoff picture, you know, there's
- 7:33Speaker 1: a lot of teams in there. Of course, Division leaders, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Chiefs,
- 7:37Speaker 1: the wild card today if it ended today, which it
- 7:40Speaker 1: never does, but if it did, would be the Bills
- 7:42Speaker 1: and the Steelers and the playoffs and then all those
- 7:44Speaker 1: teams on the writer and the hunt that does not
- 7:46Speaker 1: include the Bengals, Jets, Dolphins. That's where I cut off
- 7:49Speaker 1: the ground and I would actually take away the Broncos
- 7:51Speaker 1: and the Browns. I don't think they're really they gotta
- 7:54Speaker 1: run the table. I think it's the anyone in the
- 7:57Speaker 1: charge that four and six tough but are still in it.
- 8:00Speaker 1: I think the teams have a legitimate chance at the playoffs.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Are the teams that four and five are better? I
- 8:08Speaker 1: think us and everyone up if you're looking at the graphics,
- 8:10Speaker 1: would be the Jaguars. That tightens the Colts and the Raiders.
- 8:14Speaker 1: The Chargers and the Raiders are alive in the division.
- 8:18Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. That's a division that is very tight. Um.
- 8:22Speaker 1: So I guess, yeah, you keep keep the Charges in there.
- 8:24Speaker 1: But I don't think the Broncos of the Browns any
- 8:28Speaker 1: realistic chance of making the playoffs. No, I don't either. Okay,
- 8:32Speaker 1: so that would make five teams out of it. Yeah, officially,
- 8:36Speaker 1: well not officially officially. Actually, they're all officially still alive.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Everyone's officially alive. If the if the Jets and the
- 8:44Speaker 1: Sam Doarnolds and the Jets are gonna run the table
- 8:46Speaker 1: and getting the playoffs, did he really he's pulled up?
- 8:51Speaker 1: So they got so they're gonna win the next five
- 8:54Speaker 1: he's saying, yeah, But did he lock it next six, six, seven,
- 9:00Speaker 1: next seven. They're two and seven, have seven games. So
- 9:02Speaker 1: Donald did not lock it though. That's the key for
- 9:05Speaker 1: this thing. So that I don't think nine and seven
- 9:08Speaker 1: gets in the problem. That's a real problem. You don't
- 9:12Speaker 1: think nine and seven. No, not with this like, okay,
- 9:15Speaker 1: you're here an example, just the Raiders. Next two games
- 9:18Speaker 1: Bengals Jets. Okay, so that's two wins the seven. That's
- 9:24Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't think you got to win
- 9:27Speaker 1: ten ten it gets you in. Well, if they run
- 9:31Speaker 1: the table and get seven, they're gonna get more than ten, right,
- 9:34Speaker 1: who did wars? Yeah, we're gonna eleven. We're gonna already.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I've already said we're gonna be the number because I
- 9:45Speaker 1: think the Texans are gonna win eleven. I think we're
- 9:47Speaker 1: gonna win eleven. I think we'll be the top wild card. Sude,
- 9:50Speaker 1: Oh you've changed the right, changed that dude last week.
- 9:56Speaker 1: I just the Texans worry me. I think the Texans
- 9:59Speaker 1: are six and three. Do they finish five and two
- 10:03Speaker 1: or four and three? I mean they have a tough schedule.
- 10:06Speaker 1: They do hide. We had Carlos Hide on our set yesterday.
- 10:11Speaker 1: What's he saying one game at a time, talking that.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Tell him to come join me in the media world
- 10:19Speaker 1: where you just talking about big picture, I'll be talking
- 10:22Speaker 1: draft pretty soon here. Oh no, we're not going come on. No.
- 10:26Speaker 1: My point is saying, I've i've I've jumped so far
- 10:29Speaker 1: in the media so well. I used to be the
- 10:31Speaker 1: one game at the time. Now I'm talking about running
- 10:33Speaker 1: seven in a row. Yea, and one more loss in
- 10:35Speaker 1: you will be talking draft. No, no, no, once we
- 10:44Speaker 1: can't get to ten. I mean, so if it if
- 10:48Speaker 1: it ends up at nine, I just don't think nine
- 10:50Speaker 1: gets in. I don't think nine gets in this year.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It might get in as like a tie breaker type
- 10:55Speaker 1: of situation. I don't know, Pete. Look at I mean,
- 10:57Speaker 1: go back to that graphic and you look at the teams.
- 11:00Speaker 1: You have the Bills at six and three. So they
- 11:04Speaker 1: got good. Now, let mean you look at them. They
- 11:06Speaker 1: lost to the Browns yesterday. Yeah, but on the road,
- 11:09Speaker 1: it's not an easy place to want are they getting
- 11:11Speaker 1: are they getting tonight? Are they getting to ten? Well?
- 11:14Speaker 1: They well, they have two more that they're gonna win,
- 11:17Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Jets. So it's eight. Look now,
- 11:20Speaker 1: the Dolphins are winning games all the sudden. Yeah, but
- 11:23Speaker 1: not very good. Um, play hard. I mean we're getting
- 11:28Speaker 1: to we're gonna have eleven, so it doesn't matter. But
- 11:31Speaker 1: here's the here's their games. The Bills games at Miami,
- 11:35Speaker 1: they're gonna be easy. Home against Denver, that's pretty easy.
- 11:40Speaker 1: At Dallas. Okay, I got two wins so far home
- 11:44Speaker 1: against Baltimore, two wins at Pittsburgh, two wins at New
- 11:50Speaker 1: England two wins. And then the Jets to close out
- 11:54Speaker 1: the seas. They might only get the three nine. Yeah
- 11:57Speaker 1: maybe the Bills. Wow, maybe hm m hmm. The Raiders
- 12:04Speaker 1: scare me. I'll be honest with you, because the Raiders
- 12:06Speaker 1: schedule is a joke. The Raiders. The Raiders should be
- 12:11Speaker 1: the one team that people look at and they say, oh,
- 12:14Speaker 1: they're not that good, but their schedule is a joke.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I meant, this is where you, Pete, this is where you.
- 12:22Speaker 1: If you're the Jaguars, just win. If you win the
- 12:24Speaker 1: next seven, you're in correct. Well you locked it up,
- 12:28Speaker 1: so I don't even have to play. That's my point.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Where there's schedule starts, telling starts the playoff tickets. Now, boys,
- 12:34Speaker 1: because we're going Bengals, Bengals, at home at the Jets,
- 12:40Speaker 1: at the Chiefs to home, A gets the Titans. They're
- 12:46Speaker 1: not gonna be the Titans at home. They're not very
- 12:49Speaker 1: they don't The run defense isn't very good at anyone.
- 12:52Speaker 1: The Titans play who they can run the ball against.
- 12:54Speaker 1: They win home against the Jaguars, that's the loss. They
- 12:58Speaker 1: have two wins at the Charger. That's two winds still,
- 13:04Speaker 1: so maybe yeah, three, So maybe nine gets in. Maybe
- 13:08Speaker 1: I can we talked into nine. You just talked yourself
- 13:11Speaker 1: out of your own argument. Somehow it doesn't matter? Does
- 13:14Speaker 1: My whole point is it doesn't. How do you say
- 13:20Speaker 1: that left how do you say the backup left tackle's name?
- 13:26Speaker 1: I don't make up words. You just make up names.
- 13:31Speaker 1: It's classic. Let's come back. Nick Foles talk when we
- 13:35Speaker 1: come back. He's coming back to the lineup. Did he
- 13:37Speaker 1: say seven and O two? He hasn't talked. He's speaking
- 13:40Speaker 1: on wins. I thought he might have said dropped us
- 13:42Speaker 1: dropped a little quarterbacks facility. They only talk at designated times.
- 13:47Speaker 1: I never had that luxury. I was like, when will
- 13:51Speaker 1: Tony talk every day? And he won't stop talking either,
- 13:55Speaker 1: and he still is talking's still to this day. Is
- 13:58Speaker 1: talking back with Nick full discussion when we return its
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- 17:25Speaker 1: We've already gone through the the progression you know of Okay,
- 17:31Speaker 1: here's when he first came back. You know, we were
- 17:34Speaker 1: focused on on doing this, and then we're focused, you know,
- 17:37Speaker 1: and just really building it up into um, building up
- 17:41Speaker 1: the reps, building up the the amount of speed around him.
- 17:45Speaker 1: I guess that's probably the best way, you know, because
- 17:48Speaker 1: early on, obviously we don't want anyone around him, you know,
- 17:50Speaker 1: we don't want any setback. Um. And then we just started,
- 17:54Speaker 1: you know, putt him on a move doing a bunch
- 17:56Speaker 1: of different things, and you know, um, he's he's up
- 17:59Speaker 1: to speed as far as where he should be physically
- 18:03Speaker 1: and throwing and all of that. So we're not going
- 18:06Speaker 1: into this week, um limiting anything that he should do.
- 18:12Speaker 1: That said coach Duck Morone today discussing nick Foles in
- 18:15Speaker 1: his return. He is on the active roster last week officially,
- 18:19Speaker 1: and he will start this week against the Indianapolis Colts.
- 18:22Speaker 1: I'm j P. Shadwick. That's Tony was Sully Pete Priscoe's
- 18:25Speaker 1: and Fort Lauderdale. Yes, tone did they cut when they
- 18:28Speaker 1: put him on the active It was Malcolm Smith. I
- 18:32Speaker 1: do uh. Big concern for me with Nick Foles coming
- 18:35Speaker 1: back is the first few hits, because anytime like that's
- 18:41Speaker 1: the one thing you can't practice, and he had the carbone,
- 18:45Speaker 1: and I just think back to probably four years ago
- 18:48Speaker 1: when Romo came back after the broken car bone, came
- 18:51Speaker 1: back during the season, and like that first game, he
- 18:53Speaker 1: took a hit and rebroke it. Now, I don't think
- 18:56Speaker 1: he had surgery to repair it. I think they just
- 18:57Speaker 1: let it heal and didn't Nick Nick, Yeah, yeah, surgery.
- 19:02Speaker 1: So you know, that's the one concern you always have.
- 19:05Speaker 1: And I think everyone will be holding their breath a
- 19:07Speaker 1: little bit on the first couple of hits that he takes. Well, yeah,
- 19:12Speaker 1: protect them, right, No, that's obviously Pete. Thanks for the
- 19:16Speaker 1: news flash. Yeah, you want to protect the last time
- 19:19Speaker 1: I checked. Last time I checked that the defensive line
- 19:22Speaker 1: gets paid too, and at some point he's going to
- 19:23Speaker 1: get hit. Yeah, behind the greatest offensive lines in the
- 19:28Speaker 1: history of this game. Sooner or later, the quarterback gets hit.
- 19:31Speaker 1: So you're concerned that he's going to reinjure it. I
- 19:35Speaker 1: think that's the natural concern. You got, gardnerments you behind him,
- 19:38Speaker 1: So go play. I'm not I'm not going to change
- 19:41Speaker 1: the way I call plays. I'm not gonna change anything
- 19:43Speaker 1: I do. But you're I'm not concerned about him coming
- 19:45Speaker 1: back with rust. I'm not concerned with him coming back
- 19:47Speaker 1: understanding what to do. I mean, this is a guy
- 19:49Speaker 1: who who's played his best football off the bench, by
- 19:51Speaker 1: the way, and so none of that concerns me. If
- 19:53Speaker 1: there's one concern I would have is just like the
- 19:57Speaker 1: injury being fully healed and that first couple of hits.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Now he's been cleared and he had the surgery and
- 20:02Speaker 1: they took their time and he's so there's probably nothing
- 20:06Speaker 1: to be worried about. But I think human nature, like
- 20:08Speaker 1: that's the one thing I'm looking forward to seeing him
- 20:13Speaker 1: play this week, I really am. And will they do
- 20:18Speaker 1: things differently with him at all Tony d thing, that's
- 20:22Speaker 1: a great question. I mean, he's not gonna run around
- 20:24Speaker 1: as much, But I go where Gardener like extended plays
- 20:29Speaker 1: and did things like that. I don't think that. I mean,
- 20:33Speaker 1: that's not Nick Foles as much. But then at the
- 20:35Speaker 1: same time, you go back to the first game he had,
- 20:38Speaker 1: and he wanted the first big first down on the
- 20:41Speaker 1: uh A dig round of eighteen yard into Chris Conley,
- 20:43Speaker 1: was he shook off the rush, stepped up, avoided it
- 20:46Speaker 1: and through a dark and if you go back to
- 20:48Speaker 1: his time in Philly. I mean he does have mobility. Yeah,
- 20:51Speaker 1: he played in uh uh Kelly's uh, what's the chip
- 20:56Speaker 1: Kelly's offense where he had to move zone, read and
- 20:59Speaker 1: do stuff. And so it's not like this guy is
- 21:01Speaker 1: a statue. But I think he has more mobility than
- 21:04Speaker 1: you think. I don't think he'll see as much of
- 21:06Speaker 1: it because I think he'll have a better uh. I
- 21:10Speaker 1: don't want to say comfort, because I think Gardner was
- 21:12Speaker 1: very comfortable and that I think he'll see the progression
- 21:15Speaker 1: sooner and quicker than a young player did like Gardner,
- 21:18Speaker 1: And so I think he'll maybe see a little bit
- 21:20Speaker 1: more preciseness from him. But maybe can they give him
- 21:25Speaker 1: more just because of his uh, his experience, you would think.
- 21:29Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see. Somebody asked. Somebody asked me, sorry, JP,
- 21:34Speaker 1: somebody asked me at our place, which receiver will benefit
- 21:38Speaker 1: most from him being back. It's a great question, right.
- 21:43Speaker 1: I mean him and Kindly had a little thing going
- 21:46Speaker 1: in the free season and training camp and all that.
- 21:49Speaker 1: We saw that because they've worked together before. And then
- 21:53Speaker 1: Chart caught the long touchdown on opening day from him
- 21:56Speaker 1: and can get deep down the field. We know that
- 21:59Speaker 1: pretty good deep ball that Um that falls throws. So
- 22:02Speaker 1: I think the biggest issue that I'm curious to see
- 22:05Speaker 1: is what do they do at the middle of the field,
- 22:07Speaker 1: because no tight ends have really have come to the
- 22:12Speaker 1: forefront since so Shaughnessy got hurt. Shaughnessy is still the
- 22:14Speaker 1: leading catcher for tight ends this roster. He hasn't played
- 22:18Speaker 1: for since Denver, and so it's like, where where does
- 22:24Speaker 1: that production you know, coming who owns the middle of
- 22:27Speaker 1: the field? Is it d D? Can they get d
- 22:29Speaker 1: D going from the slot? He's back, he's healthy. Um,
- 22:33Speaker 1: that's the That's the thing that I'm most curious about
- 22:36Speaker 1: because you look at the next career. He likes the
- 22:37Speaker 1: tight end. He likes working in the middle of the fields.
- 22:41Speaker 1: The slot receiver. Yeah, he likes the slot guys too,
- 22:43Speaker 1: So that's gonna be interesting. So maybe d D. I
- 22:46Speaker 1: think the one thing we've seen and from Gardner is
- 22:49Speaker 1: he's indiscriminate when it comes to who he's gonna go to.
- 22:52Speaker 1: You know, I don't think there was one guy leaned on.
- 22:54Speaker 1: I mean, Chark was having the biggest year, but he
- 22:56Speaker 1: was winning outside, winning down the field. I would expect
- 23:00Speaker 1: this kind of same thing from Nick Foles. I think
- 23:01Speaker 1: he'll go where the offense takes him. H Does it
- 23:05Speaker 1: open them up? Doesn't open up the running game a
- 23:08Speaker 1: little bit more? If that you know a game or two,
- 23:11Speaker 1: if it's pushing it ball down the field a little
- 23:13Speaker 1: bit on offense and they gotta go cover guys, then
- 23:15Speaker 1: here comes for that. You would say yes, But here's
- 23:17Speaker 1: my concern. What did the Saints do to them? Remember
- 23:24Speaker 1: this too deep? So if it's too deep, there's no
- 23:29Speaker 1: more there's no more favorable run front than you can get.
- 23:33Speaker 1: What did the Texans do? They did a lot of
- 23:34Speaker 1: split safeties to my safeties, There's no more favorable run
- 23:38Speaker 1: front that you can get. So the line wasn't winning.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Then in those scenarios when you're when you have too
- 23:44Speaker 1: deep safeties, you have I think it's the line and
- 23:49Speaker 1: back tight ends. I think it's all together. But yeah,
- 23:51Speaker 1: I mean you have to put the I mean of
- 23:52Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. We always felt like if it was
- 23:54Speaker 1: too deep, it's on us. We gotta control the line
- 23:57Speaker 1: of scrimmage. So I don't know if it's gonna open
- 24:00Speaker 1: up the run more. Um, maybe, but we've we've seen
- 24:04Speaker 1: teams respect the pass and and and try and play.
- 24:08Speaker 1: You know that man underneath to high safety. Look quite
- 24:11Speaker 1: a bit Cover two just to ig safeties. You saw
- 24:13Speaker 1: the Texans that were running a lot of Cover four,
- 24:15Speaker 1: which is a split safety. Looks playing zone four across um.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Those are fronts you'd like to be able to run
- 24:21Speaker 1: the ball against. So they gotta, they gotta, they have
- 24:26Speaker 1: to run the ball better. I don't think there's any
- 24:28Speaker 1: question about that. Even though they've had moments where they
- 24:31Speaker 1: run it pretty well, they gotta be better at it. Yeah,
- 24:34Speaker 1: I mean, I I goes back to I was having
- 24:37Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody in the building today actually about it,
- 24:41Speaker 1: and I'm convinced watching the first nine games, watching college
- 24:45Speaker 1: football this year, watching the NFL, the teams that can
- 24:48Speaker 1: run the ball, the teams that can control the line
- 24:50Speaker 1: of scrimmage, those are the teams that win at the
- 24:54Speaker 1: end of the day. You have to be able to
- 24:55Speaker 1: do that in this league today. Otherwise you just allow
- 24:59Speaker 1: defense is to tee off and do too many things
- 25:02Speaker 1: if you can't run the ball. I mean, you look
- 25:04Speaker 1: at I mean you look at the Patriots. The Patriots
- 25:08Speaker 1: when they're at their best, they're running the ball look
- 25:10Speaker 1: at the playoff run last year that Sony Michelle and
- 25:13Speaker 1: I mean I did a number of the games, and
- 25:14Speaker 1: Sony Michelle had I can't remember X amount of touches
- 25:17Speaker 1: and over I think seventy five yards. They won every
- 25:19Speaker 1: game something like that. You know, you look at the rams.
- 25:23Speaker 1: The rams were built on the running the ball, play
- 25:25Speaker 1: action pass. The Saints, everyone talks about Drew Brees, Michael Thomas,
- 25:29Speaker 1: great players they had. They had one of the highest
- 25:32Speaker 1: run pass percentages ratios in the NFL. Well, here here's
- 25:36Speaker 1: your here's your rushing leaders in the NFL. Right now?
- 25:38Speaker 1: You ready? The Ray the Ravens pretty good, the Niners
- 25:43Speaker 1: really good, Vikings, good Texans, good Cowboys until last night. Okay, Seahawks,
- 25:54Speaker 1: good Panthers. Yeah, all teams with winning records. If yet
- 26:00Speaker 1: to get a team with with a non winning record,
- 26:04Speaker 1: every one of those teams is in the playoff hunt. Yeah.
- 26:07Speaker 1: But but you get to number nine. You know the
- 26:09Speaker 1: ninth ranked rushing team is in the league. No, did
- 26:13Speaker 1: Jacksonel Jaguars? Okay, well, where is the first team with
- 26:17Speaker 1: a none? That's the first thing with a non winning record. Yeah,
- 26:22Speaker 1: but my point is it's the teams that can control
- 26:23Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on both both lines, both lines. Yeah,
- 26:28Speaker 1: I agree with you. I am If I were ever
- 26:31Speaker 1: to run a football team, I would build it inside out. Obviously,
- 26:35Speaker 1: you've got to have the guy who can pull the
- 26:37Speaker 1: trigger and the quarterback. And that's what I'm saying. You
- 26:40Speaker 1: have to have the guy who can pull the trigger
- 26:41Speaker 1: in this league, there's no doubt about that. After that, though,
- 26:44Speaker 1: I am finding big people, big people on the offensive
- 26:48Speaker 1: line and big people on the defensive line. That's how
- 26:51Speaker 1: you win. Nothing against the receivers, nothing gives defensive backs,
- 26:56Speaker 1: not all the other positions. They're important, but you win
- 26:59Speaker 1: for ball games with a quarterback in two lines. If
- 27:02Speaker 1: you have that. If you have that, you're gonna win
- 27:04Speaker 1: a lot of football games. Until yesterday, we sat here
- 27:08Speaker 1: and we said, how good the Saints were, right, Drew
- 27:10Speaker 1: Brees and good offensive line and good defensive line. What
- 27:14Speaker 1: happened yesterday? Oh, they were off on the offensive line yesterday,
- 27:18Speaker 1: and they were bad on defensive line. That's why you lose. Yeah,
- 27:23Speaker 1: the Jaguars have kind of dedicated themselves that over the
- 27:26Speaker 1: last few years. Defensive line obviously, offensive line going to
- 27:30Speaker 1: get norwell and then drafting camera Robinson a few years
- 27:33Speaker 1: ago right tackle. This year, the number nine rushing the
- 27:36Speaker 1: offensive line continues to prove. I thought they've passed blocked
- 27:38Speaker 1: outstanding this year. You'll really watch it. They've they've passed
- 27:42Speaker 1: blocked very well. They're running the ball better. The weakness
- 27:47Speaker 1: where they've lost games this year, or the games they lost,
- 27:52Speaker 1: I think of two that's or three that stand out
- 27:54Speaker 1: to me is the two Houston games and the Carolina
- 28:00Speaker 1: Panther game. We couldn't stop the run. And when you
- 28:05Speaker 1: can't stop the run, it is it's a bear to
- 28:08Speaker 1: win football games. When there they're also eight no tied
- 28:13Speaker 1: for six in the league and yards per rush at
- 28:16Speaker 1: yards per tempt rushing and so my argument, I said
- 28:20Speaker 1: this earlier in the year, is they don't call the
- 28:23Speaker 1: run enough. They only had six rushers in the first
- 28:25Speaker 1: half against the Texans. Now in fairness to so it
- 28:30Speaker 1: goes back and forth. This you have to call the
- 28:32Speaker 1: run and you gotta stick to it. But if you
- 28:35Speaker 1: look at this team is three of their losses the
- 28:42Speaker 1: main reason they could they lost the games they couldn't
- 28:44Speaker 1: stop the run. And when this team has any type
- 28:49Speaker 1: of lead and is stopping the run. That front four
- 28:51Speaker 1: gets after the quarterback as well as anybody. But when
- 28:55Speaker 1: they get in these balance attacks and teams can keep
- 28:57Speaker 1: them on their heels and third and short and everything else. Boy,
- 29:01Speaker 1: it's tough. And then and so it goes back to
- 29:04Speaker 1: the philosophy quarterback O and D line. I can find
- 29:09Speaker 1: and I'm not discounting any other position, but I can
- 29:11Speaker 1: find guys the other places. Let's come back. We'll get
- 29:14Speaker 1: into the defensive side down the stretch here and how
- 29:17Speaker 1: they match up against some of these offenses coming up
- 29:19Speaker 1: and the pass rush getting those guys going down the
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- 33:10Speaker 1: Florida Deep. Loki's then as one per customer production. You
- 33:29Speaker 1: know when you see the production by him, it's it's uh.
- 33:32Speaker 1: You have to remember that teams are doing a lot
- 33:34Speaker 1: to stop him, meaning that you know whether especially in
- 33:38Speaker 1: the pass rush phase. Um, you know, he he's had
- 33:41Speaker 1: a bunch of quality rushes, you know, but he also
- 33:45Speaker 1: has um, you know, a bunch of double teams that
- 33:48Speaker 1: he's fighting through or chips or or or that. I
- 33:51Speaker 1: think that he's improved greatly in the in the run game.
- 33:54Speaker 1: I think he's done a really good job there. And
- 33:56Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's improved as as a pass rusher,
- 33:59Speaker 1: and he's been an excellent job. Coach Duck Marone discussing
- 34:03Speaker 1: Unique and Gockway and really his last three game stretch,
- 34:07Speaker 1: which has been fantastic for the Jaguars. Welcome back to
- 34:10Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy r J. P. Shatwick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco.
- 34:14Speaker 1: The last three games for in Gockway nine tackles, two sacks,
- 34:17Speaker 1: five tackles for lost, five quarterback hits, the interception, and
- 34:21Speaker 1: a past defense. It's pretty good three games stretch. Even
- 34:25Speaker 1: the sack numbers are not huge this year. The last
- 34:27Speaker 1: three weeks, I think he's played very well. Well. Doug's
- 34:31Speaker 1: right there doing a lot to affect him. Um, he
- 34:34Speaker 1: has won in the last four weeks, I'd say three
- 34:37Speaker 1: or four weeks immediately, and the ball has been gone
- 34:40Speaker 1: because the quick passing game. He's whipping tackles at the
- 34:42Speaker 1: last scrimmage. Uh, he has improved as a run defender.
- 34:47Speaker 1: I still think he can get better there. And uh,
- 34:50Speaker 1: he's a good listen. He's a very good player. I
- 34:52Speaker 1: mean he's a guy that teams you can tell when
- 34:54Speaker 1: you turn the tape on our accounting forum, especially in
- 34:56Speaker 1: the past game. And but he's also a guy that
- 35:00Speaker 1: he needs the defense to win on first and second down.
- 35:03Speaker 1: He needs more opportunities in third and longs. His team
- 35:05Speaker 1: has not had a lot At least it felt like
- 35:07Speaker 1: maybe I'm just going off of the London game. It
- 35:09Speaker 1: did not feel like they had very many opportunities to
- 35:12Speaker 1: after Deshaun Watson. Now he had two opportunities he should
- 35:15Speaker 1: have got any other quarterback. He had two sacks against Houston,
- 35:19Speaker 1: but Deshaun Watson alluded him and got away. So I
- 35:22Speaker 1: think he's playing very well. He started slow because of
- 35:25Speaker 1: the hamstring. Nothing you can do about that as a player. Um,
- 35:28Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that he played through it and
- 35:31Speaker 1: was out there giving a great effort. And Uh, he's
- 35:34Speaker 1: definitely a guy you want on this team. He wanted him.
- 35:36Speaker 1: His attitude, his professionalism, his how he prepares his toughness
- 35:42Speaker 1: on your defense. Yeah, but Tony, one of the things
- 35:46Speaker 1: you heard about him and the negotiations was they were
- 35:49Speaker 1: paying him for his run defense. Has he improved that
- 35:51Speaker 1: much in that area? It's better? I still think it
- 35:54Speaker 1: could be better. And I think watching him playing like
- 35:57Speaker 1: like they need to make sure he's in space because look,
- 36:00Speaker 1: he's not a big guy. Um. And I think he
- 36:03Speaker 1: needs to use his athletic ability. We saw it against
- 36:05Speaker 1: Houston where he just makes the tackle with in the
- 36:08Speaker 1: run game. And maybe it's because this is what he's
- 36:13Speaker 1: being told to do. I don't know, but he he
- 36:17Speaker 1: needs to be elusive even in the run game at
- 36:19Speaker 1: the point of attack and make tackles, guessing of whether
- 36:22Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, to impress him and and be physical,
- 36:25Speaker 1: or if he's gonna give a little oaky dog mismove.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Um and he started to do that a little bit
- 36:30Speaker 1: and just playing tackle. I know for a fact if
- 36:33Speaker 1: a guy is elusive out there, it makes me slow
- 36:34Speaker 1: down a little bit. I can't be as aggressive and
- 36:37Speaker 1: then allows a smaller guy to use his power against me.
- 36:40Speaker 1: So um, yeah, he continues to improve. He continues to
- 36:44Speaker 1: uh be one of the best players on this team,
- 36:47Speaker 1: and uh, he's uh. I think he's only gonna get better,
- 36:50Speaker 1: But he needs more rushes, he needs more third logs,
- 36:53Speaker 1: and they're not winning enough on first and second down
- 36:54Speaker 1: to get him there. Josh Allen on the other side
- 36:59Speaker 1: something time to time they're on the field together and
- 37:01Speaker 1: Calais Campbell and all those guys again, another guy who
- 37:04Speaker 1: would like to have more third and long situations. All
- 37:07Speaker 1: those guys, right, Pete, Yeah, But here's the thing, And
- 37:10Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with so you have to
- 37:13Speaker 1: earn that, right, that's on you as a player to
- 37:15Speaker 1: get the third long. I mean, they're out there, they
- 37:20Speaker 1: gotta earn. They have to earn by working their tails
- 37:23Speaker 1: off at first and second down to get to third long.
- 37:26Speaker 1: I mean, nobody likes, you know, grinding it out on
- 37:29Speaker 1: first and second down, but that's where you get the
- 37:32Speaker 1: the you get the opportunities getting those third and long
- 37:34Speaker 1: situations and puts the you know, offensive line on their
- 37:36Speaker 1: heels a little bit and get after the quarterback and
- 37:38Speaker 1: make big plays and create turnovers and everything else. They
- 37:42Speaker 1: understand that, and I think that's where you know, you'll
- 37:46Speaker 1: get off the field more too. I mean, I don't know,
- 37:48Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers right in front of us,
- 37:50Speaker 1: but this defense is not great at third down. Third
- 37:53Speaker 1: down defense, I think the conversions are pretty high against
- 37:56Speaker 1: them when you look at those numbers, where do you
- 37:59Speaker 1: think they are in the sack numbers? Though, Tony their
- 38:02Speaker 1: fourth that's that's pretty darn good considering I haven't been
- 38:05Speaker 1: in third and law. No, I think they listen, I
- 38:08Speaker 1: think they're good. I'm just saying, if you the number
- 38:11Speaker 1: that concerns me about this defense and where I think
- 38:13Speaker 1: it shows up that you're not winning on first and
- 38:16Speaker 1: second down as much as not the sack numbers as much,
- 38:18Speaker 1: but the third down conversions against you. There are eight
- 38:22Speaker 1: teens in the league and third down defense, what's the percentage?
- 38:27Speaker 1: Almost four? They're almost getting conversion rate enough. And now
- 38:35Speaker 1: I might be also leaning just towards the because the
- 38:37Speaker 1: last game we saw was the Texans game where it
- 38:40Speaker 1: felt like everything was third and three. I'm not wrong.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I mean you called the game for the Sky Sports
- 38:45Speaker 1: wherever that was, um um the it just felt like
- 38:51Speaker 1: they were always in third and you know, short to medium,
- 38:56Speaker 1: and that's because the run game. You how to stop
- 39:00Speaker 1: the run and they just have. But they're not that Yeah,
- 39:02Speaker 1: they're not that far off. Like okay, like the Vikings,
- 39:04Speaker 1: you consider them a decent defense right there at thirty
- 39:07Speaker 1: two or thirty Yeah, so they're not that far off.
- 39:10Speaker 1: The Ravens are pretty good defense at times. Packers, Uh,
- 39:15Speaker 1: they're in the middle of the Bears. The Bears are
- 39:17Speaker 1: thirty six tony, Okay, what is the what's what's the
- 39:21Speaker 1: how many yards per rushing and temper are we giving up?
- 39:25Speaker 1: I know we're down there, we're down the line and
- 39:27Speaker 1: rush defense I'll tell you in the second. But yeah,
- 39:32Speaker 1: you're right. You got to stop the run to turn
- 39:34Speaker 1: the pass rushers loose. I get it. That's all I'm
- 39:36Speaker 1: saying there. In rushing yards per game twenty nine and
- 39:40Speaker 1: rushing yards per play, yeah, so rushing yards per play
- 39:42Speaker 1: twenty nine, and that's like bad, that's a bad. That's
- 39:45Speaker 1: a bad. That number four nine four. And so when
- 39:48Speaker 1: you I look at when I look at statistics, like
- 39:50Speaker 1: some of the key things you look at his third
- 39:52Speaker 1: down defense, red zone defense, and rushing yards per attempt.
- 39:57Speaker 1: I mean those are key. And then forget this sact first,
- 40:00Speaker 1: how many you know it's pressure quarterback Hicks, quarterback, quarterback, knockdowns, sacks,
- 40:05Speaker 1: all that put together, that will all lead turnovers. Typically,
- 40:09Speaker 1: that's like the that's the formula. But if you're rushing
- 40:12Speaker 1: yards per attempt is high, it means you're not in
- 40:16Speaker 1: favorable down distance, which leads to not great third down.
- 40:20Speaker 1: They're never behind the stick, and so that's it's pretty
- 40:23Speaker 1: amazing when you think about it. Look about this for
- 40:25Speaker 1: a second, Tony, you know, because I'm a big believer
- 40:26Speaker 1: in yarchs per tempt in all categories, but yarchs per
- 40:29Speaker 1: rush on defense very important. Like you said, Caroline has
- 40:33Speaker 1: got a good defense right there last in the league.
- 40:36Speaker 1: And you watch them though lately they can't get off
- 40:39Speaker 1: the field on defense. Look at their third down percentage.
- 40:41Speaker 1: It's not very good. Okay, no it's not. What about
- 40:44Speaker 1: what about New England? New England's until it's seven per rush? Right,
- 40:50Speaker 1: and we talked about two weeks ago. If I was
- 40:51Speaker 1: playing New England, I've done them, watch them, done games
- 40:54Speaker 1: on them. They put a bunch of linebackers out there,
- 40:56Speaker 1: I'd run it right after them. What about at four
- 41:00Speaker 1: point seven per rush? That one doesn't make sense to me.
- 41:05Speaker 1: They're playing because they're playing really good defense. Yeah, but
- 41:08Speaker 1: four point seven per rush, and and then you go
- 41:11Speaker 1: down to the bottom. There's teams that don't you know,
- 41:14Speaker 1: haven't been run on that much because they get thrown onto, right,
- 41:17Speaker 1: there's always there's always that the flip side of that.
- 41:20Speaker 1: You gotta look at the entire package, like if if
- 41:23Speaker 1: teams can throw on you all day long, Like, look
- 41:27Speaker 1: at the best yards per rush defense in the league,
- 41:30Speaker 1: JAP yards per rush defense in the league, the best, Yeah,
- 41:36Speaker 1: how about that? How about that the New York Jets
- 41:41Speaker 1: three point zero one yards per rush? Okay, but go
- 41:43Speaker 1: look at that defense. There are a good defense against
- 41:47Speaker 1: the run. They're really good defense. How many people they're
- 41:50Speaker 1: not giving them a bunch of I mean, if you
- 41:51Speaker 1: looked at if you looked at that defense, it took
- 41:55Speaker 1: away when they their offense gives up points because of
- 41:58Speaker 1: turnovers and direct points by the opposing defense, and when
- 42:02Speaker 1: they're backed up in terrible field position. If you look
- 42:06Speaker 1: at like normal situations, that's one of the better defenses.
- 42:10Speaker 1: They do a good job there. Look at the other
- 42:13Speaker 1: look at the other defense and yards for rush, the
- 42:15Speaker 1: Rams three point three, the Bucks three point five, the Bears.
- 42:23Speaker 1: We expect that at the Eagles three point eight and
- 42:25Speaker 1: the Falcons Tony three point eight, the Falcons. Everybody throw
- 42:30Speaker 1: it all over, yeah right, they don't have to run,
- 42:32Speaker 1: throw it over the yard. Yeah all right. Listen, it's
- 42:36Speaker 1: always dangerous to look at anyone's stat and say that's
- 42:39Speaker 1: the reason. But how we got to this conversation is
- 42:42Speaker 1: looking at this defense and how do you get a
- 42:44Speaker 1: guy like Yunique and these guys set loose wars to
- 42:47Speaker 1: getting more favorable down and distances and when you're not
- 42:50Speaker 1: winning in the run game and that, and you go
- 42:53Speaker 1: back to the games these teams lost. I'm not putting
- 42:56Speaker 1: all in the defense by any means. There's obviously been
- 42:59Speaker 1: offensive issue, but three of the games is they couldn't
- 43:02Speaker 1: stop the run to Texans games and against the Panthers, well, remember,
- 43:06Speaker 1: and Marcel Darius has done for the for the year.
- 43:08Speaker 1: He's on injury reserve. He's the reason you got him
- 43:11Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to stop to run and
- 43:13Speaker 1: it worked that year down the stretch of and he's
- 43:18Speaker 1: not gonna be available, so he's not walking through that door.
- 43:21Speaker 1: You gotta find other ways to do it. And the
- 43:23Speaker 1: bye week, I'm sure Todd Washton staff spent a little
- 43:25Speaker 1: bit of time looking at film figuring out what to do.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Get guys healthy, and uh, we'll see what they do, alright,
- 43:32Speaker 1: plenty of the discuss we'll come back in a moment.
- 43:34Speaker 1: And the one other thing, the other thing, the one thing,
- 43:36Speaker 1: the other thing. And sometimes you look at like the
- 43:39Speaker 1: Rams and other teams, why do they have such low
- 43:42Speaker 1: rushing per tempt or rushing yards. If you can get
- 43:45Speaker 1: a lead offensively, it's harder for teams to run the ball.
- 43:49Speaker 1: They have to play catch up. What do they do
- 43:51Speaker 1: when they play catch up? They throw up more? Yeah,
- 43:53Speaker 1: but this is the the yards per tepto, Tony, we're talking No,
- 43:55Speaker 1: I get that. I'm just talking about overall your rushing
- 43:57Speaker 1: yards and so you have to look at that as well,
- 44:01Speaker 1: which means is one of the reasons I think this
- 44:03Speaker 1: defense will be better. And again I always said preface,
- 44:06Speaker 1: this is not nothing that Gardner minsh you. But you
- 44:10Speaker 1: you gotta believe you've got nick Foles for a reason
- 44:12Speaker 1: that if this team can start faster offensively get leads,
- 44:17Speaker 1: it will help the defense as well. Finishing the red
- 44:19Speaker 1: zone maybe a little more. Yeah, we've been you look
- 44:21Speaker 1: at the red zone offense it's one of the things
- 44:23Speaker 1: that's killed this team all that we'll come back in
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- 48:16Speaker 1: thinking about the two road games in a row right now,
- 48:19Speaker 1: even though that's that's the truth. I mean, we know
- 48:22Speaker 1: that that that that's a fact that's there. Um My,
- 48:27Speaker 1: My talk with the team was, hey, let's not get ahead,
- 48:31Speaker 1: let's not go too far. Let's make sure let's work
- 48:34Speaker 1: on what we have to do today. You know which
- 48:37Speaker 1: this team has done a good job of working hard
- 48:39Speaker 1: in preparing during the week and getting on our schedule
- 48:42Speaker 1: so that we can have a better performance on Sunday.
- 48:46Speaker 1: That coach Doug Brone today he knows what's ahead for
- 48:50Speaker 1: this team to divisional road games back to back and
- 48:52Speaker 1: welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Chadrick Tony
- 48:56Speaker 1: was elly, that's Pete Priscoe. Yes, Pete Tony. Tony went
- 48:59Speaker 1: into the office until old moron not to worry about anything.
- 49:01Speaker 1: He's gonna win seven. I tried to tell all those guys, hey, guys,
- 49:05Speaker 1: I got it taken care of. Just you guys, just
- 49:07Speaker 1: gonna worry about it about it's in the books, it's
- 49:11Speaker 1: in the bag, whatever saying you want to say. Um,
- 49:14Speaker 1: but you notice what he did there, Pete. He started
- 49:18Speaker 1: going anti coach, talking about the two road games that
- 49:21Speaker 1: reeled it back in and went all the way back
- 49:23Speaker 1: just to winning the day. It's very clever by coach Mo. Yeah,
- 49:28Speaker 1: well you've already locked it up and looked at seven
- 49:30Speaker 1: weeks down to the seven. He's down the road. But sell,
- 49:34Speaker 1: he's got his past thanksgiving it Christmas already that that's
- 49:39Speaker 1: actually not accurate. I got us all the way to
- 49:42Speaker 1: the a C Championship game. Let's not forget that. I'm
- 49:44Speaker 1: saying we're rushing, you're rushing our life away. We barely
- 49:47Speaker 1: even got were November. Barely. I mean, I've already got it.
- 49:49Speaker 1: I've already started mapping out the week of Miami for
- 49:53Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What we're gonna be doing. Where are
- 49:55Speaker 1: we going out? The only reason you're going to be
- 49:58Speaker 1: in Miami is to work and get inducted. I've made
- 50:01Speaker 1: I've made uh. I made dinner reservations for the team.
- 50:07Speaker 1: I like that. There's no way you made dinner reservations
- 50:10Speaker 1: for anybody but yourself. We're gonna hit the Yardbird. We're
- 50:12Speaker 1: gonna hit Yardbird and one uh one night down the
- 50:17Speaker 1: south beach broken shake, nice pool side bar. You might
- 50:21Speaker 1: have to go a little Runway eighty two one night. Well,
- 50:24Speaker 1: first off, it's Runway eighty four. No, no, I like you.
- 50:27Speaker 1: He goes to You don't want to go to eighty two.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Eighty two is better. Runway eighty four is awesome. It's
- 50:34Speaker 1: eighty two is a rough crowd, careful eighty two eighty two,
- 50:37Speaker 1: but it's all he's not allowed to runway an. We
- 50:40Speaker 1: have a good time in eighty two, but I stopped
- 50:41Speaker 1: over eighty four once while to get some eggplant parmeersan. Yeah,
- 50:46Speaker 1: eighty four is going. And by the way, eighty four
- 50:49Speaker 1: has a delivery company now called Anthony's Promptoly. So we're
- 50:54Speaker 1: gonna do Runway eighty four one night, we got Yardbird.
- 50:56Speaker 1: One night we'll go to Joe Crab get some crabs
- 50:59Speaker 1: very you, but your dad one too. It's Joe's Crab,
- 51:02Speaker 1: not Joe Crab. That's why I said we're gonna go
- 51:04Speaker 1: to Joe's Crab. That's not what you said. You said
- 51:07Speaker 1: Joe Crab. Well, that's his brother, his brother. It's another
- 51:13Speaker 1: it's he has a little spot in the corner. But
- 51:15Speaker 1: the whole time you're gonna be so busy because the
- 51:16Speaker 1: Jaguars are playing. You're gonna have so many commitments and stuff. Tony, No, yeah,
- 51:20Speaker 1: that's this is what we're doing at night. I'm sending
- 51:23Speaker 1: reservations at night for everyone. Yeah, you know, they don't
- 51:26Speaker 1: close to like six am. And well that's where you
- 51:28Speaker 1: and I j not that I know. I'm just saying
- 51:31Speaker 1: that would be me, you and Pete hitting those spots afterwards.
- 51:33Speaker 1: The guys have curfew, but the three of us will
- 51:35Speaker 1: be we'll hit some of those the town. Yeah, get ready, Yeah,
- 51:38Speaker 1: we'll hit six o'clock when we get up. Well, you
- 51:42Speaker 1: know the Fountain Blue, they have about a nice club there.
- 51:44Speaker 1: We have to go check out. Like they have a couple. Yeah,
- 51:47Speaker 1: you know, maybe they have a club with the w
- 51:49Speaker 1: I heard it's pretty good. Pete goes to all those places.
- 51:55Speaker 1: I haven't been to since I've moved down here, I
- 51:57Speaker 1: haven't been to Miami Beach once. There's so many things
- 51:59Speaker 1: to doing for a louder it. I like both, but
- 52:02Speaker 1: South Beaches you can't beat Thatch. Come on, you're a
- 52:05Speaker 1: little old for South Beach and I'm really old for
- 52:07Speaker 1: Toth Beach. No, I'm just talking to South Beach. We
- 52:10Speaker 1: I take the kids down there, stay at the w
- 52:12Speaker 1: and South Beach is amazing. But I mean, like when
- 52:16Speaker 1: you go into Cleveland or you're the old guy in
- 52:18Speaker 1: the club. I've never been to the Cleveland. Hell, I'm
- 52:24Speaker 1: the old guy in the Clevelander. Yeah, and I'm the
- 52:27Speaker 1: oldest guy in the Cleveland There. Well, no, because it
- 52:30Speaker 1: isn't Lebratard there, so you can hang out with him.
- 52:33Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're a little old for South Beach.
- 52:41Speaker 1: Thirty years younger than us. He just happens to look
- 52:43Speaker 1: the same age, that's right. Yeah, thanks a lot. Let's
- 52:49Speaker 1: compare some schedules here. We talked a little earlier about
- 52:51Speaker 1: the playoff picture, but we're gonna touch on the a
- 52:54Speaker 1: f C South all that coming up uh in just
- 52:57Speaker 1: a little bit. But let's take a look at the
- 53:00Speaker 1: remaining schedule for the Let's start with the Houston Texans.
- 53:02Speaker 1: The team at the top of the division, and they've
- 53:05Speaker 1: got quite a scheduled time up. Let's go through wins
- 53:07Speaker 1: and losses, y'all, do it quickly. Ravens lost Colts when
- 53:11Speaker 1: Patriots lost on Sunday Night. Broncos win. That's two and two.
- 53:16Speaker 1: Titans lost, Bucks win, Titans win four, four and three,
- 53:21Speaker 1: so they get to Okay, they're ten and six. We
- 53:25Speaker 1: just I mean the seasons over keep Indianapolis Colts. Okay,
- 53:30Speaker 1: next team on this list to this quickly. Let's get
- 53:33Speaker 1: to the list for the Indianapolis Colts. The Jags. That's
- 53:37Speaker 1: a loss for them. Texans lost Titans, Bucks when Saints
- 53:44Speaker 1: in New Orleans the Panthers when that could be a
- 53:48Speaker 1: loss too, it could be they gotta win there. Jaguars
- 53:52Speaker 1: lost their three and four, three and four, they're they're
- 53:56Speaker 1: eliminated them. Okay. Tennessee Titans remaining schedule weeks eleven through seventeen.
- 54:01Speaker 1: They're off this week. They're gonna win this week. Okay.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Jaguars lost Colts when I can't remember what I said,
- 54:09Speaker 1: So that's the lost lost at The Raiders lost Texans
- 54:16Speaker 1: when Saints lost. Texans lost, so they're gonna win. They're
- 54:20Speaker 1: gonna win one. WHOA the Texans. We'll give them too.
- 54:26Speaker 1: We'll give them too, We'll give them two wins. And
- 54:28Speaker 1: of course we know what's gonna happen with the Jaguar.
- 54:32Speaker 1: Let's let's just do it. Let's put it up. Let's
- 54:33Speaker 1: put it up. Just when win win win, win, win win. Okay,
- 54:39Speaker 1: all those games which one could search you the most,
- 54:44Speaker 1: that'd be Week fifteen at Oakland because of history. Yeah,
- 54:49Speaker 1: we don't do a good job on the West Coast.
- 54:51Speaker 1: But I said, we're breaking that curse. We're due, it's over.
- 54:54Speaker 1: But that's the one that concerns the most. It's gonna
- 54:57Speaker 1: bedlam at that stadium at this the last game ever
- 55:00Speaker 1: the Colosseum for the Raider. Now, yeah, it's gonna be
- 55:02Speaker 1: crazy crap. Chucky will be hugging fans and kissing them beforehand.
- 55:08Speaker 1: If they If the jat Wards win six of the seven,
- 55:11Speaker 1: are they in Yeah, ten wins, Yes, so they don't
- 55:15Speaker 1: need to go and defeated like you're saying they're gonna do.
- 55:17Speaker 1: They're going to because we're winning the division. Because the
- 55:19Speaker 1: Texans are Graham Sens. Okay, here's what I want to know.
- 55:24Speaker 1: If they lose this week or not? Were you but
- 55:27Speaker 1: if they did, would you amend that to they lose
- 55:29Speaker 1: more than six? I mean they won't. This is the
- 55:32Speaker 1: difference between you and I. We did this one. Yeah, no,
- 55:36Speaker 1: this is the difference though. Pete, before the game in London,
- 55:39Speaker 1: I said I'd go back to Nick Foles no matter what,
- 55:41Speaker 1: and you said, well, if it is, it's that, this
- 55:43Speaker 1: isn't that? And you ride defense and you played all
- 55:46Speaker 1: these and I'm just calling this is. We're winning the game.
- 55:50Speaker 1: There's no more questions. It's over. Was that Pete Prisco
- 55:53Speaker 1: or Jay Leno? You were doing that comment? Know what
- 55:55Speaker 1: that one? I don't know what that Okay, if you were,
- 56:00Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, would you bet on that
- 56:01Speaker 1: that they would win all seven straight games? Well, it's
- 56:04Speaker 1: against NFL policy. For NFL, it's illegal and bush words
- 56:14Speaker 1: never slice. Let's come back. Second hour of Jaguars. I
- 56:19Speaker 1: lay it all down. I lay it all if I could,
- 56:21Speaker 1: but I can't. You know, I don't believe it. JP.
- 56:24Speaker 1: He doesn't believe it. I lay it all. He really
- 56:27Speaker 1: doesn't believe it. Just doing it for the theatrics. Just
- 56:29Speaker 1: a bit. It's just a bit. No, it's not you
- 56:31Speaker 1: how about this? Because this isn't true gambling and there's
- 56:34Speaker 1: no real money involved. I don't think. I don't know
- 56:37Speaker 1: if we can do this or not. I'll bet you
- 56:38Speaker 1: dinner that they win all seven. Oh, the stakes have
- 56:42Speaker 1: just risen and it might be at stakes at Runway
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- 1:00:40Speaker 1: when you get a chance to, you know, kind of
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: take a step back and look at some of the
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: things that you're doing and and um, look at the
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: tendencies that you have and what people are looking at.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: So I think we've learned a lot about ourselves, you know,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: talking about coaching wise, and you know, this past week,
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: the head coach Doug Marone today discussing what he just
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: with the football team coming back to work today. Welcome back.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: The second Hour coming up. We'll get your social media questions.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: We'll go around the ANFC South and around the National
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Football League and recap all the games in week number ten.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: By the way, Happy Veterans Day for everybody who served
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: in our armed forces wereround. I was walking out to
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: the the indoor practice field today at Daily's Place, Drink
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Finders Holmes Flex Field at Daily's Place practice and in
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: the parking lot they were all setting up for the
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: Veterans Day parade downtown. All the motorcycles and the flags
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: and everything. It's pretty cool. It's always UM. Obviously, Memorial Day,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Veterans Day, fourth of July. I think those are the
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: three holidays, UH. And we should remember more, but just
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: remembrance and being thankful for the people who fought for
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: our country, gave their lives for our country, the ultimate sacrifice, UM,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: and served to allow us to have a radio show
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: like this and yuck it up and have a good time,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: play football and do whatever we love to do in
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: this great country. Because it's not for free UM. And
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of families have given
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: their lives and their loved ones for us to do it.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: So hats off to everyone who has served, and thank
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: you for your service. It's well said, Tony. Is this
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: your idea of a good time? Though? Well, I mean
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: it's good just making sure. So the two things that
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: Doug said, there's two statistics that have to change for
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: this team to do what I've said they're going to do,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: and they are red zone offense has to be better,
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: which I think we're in the bottom ten of the NFL.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: I'm right in front of me. There was we were
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: I think thirtieth at one point. I don't think we're
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: much better. And uh, turnover margin we need to go
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: from minus two we need at the end of the
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: seven game run, we need to be at plus six.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: Are better? Are you plus seven? H? Are if those
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: two things? If those two things change, seven and a
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: field position, all that stuff that's the flow of the game. Yeah,
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: I agree that you don't want to be thirty if
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: you like better field positions starting, but I would take
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: I would trade it all uh to get to minus
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: seven on the year or plus seven on the year.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Excuse me, so seven plus uh, that means getting plus
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: nine over the next seven games and improving Where are
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: we in the red zone offense? Were total red zone
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: off Yeah, it's uh here, I got it right here,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: hang on, and we were thirty three touchdown conversion. That's Notti.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: We need to be. We need to get up to
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: or we need to be sevent or greater down these
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: seven last seven games of converting touchdowns to uh in
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: the red zone inside the twenty and we need to
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: be plus nine, making us plus seven for the year.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: We do those two things seven and old count it
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: done well. You're you're already locked it, so you are.
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: This is what happens. This is planning a little more.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: What's going to happen, that's right. The field physician thing though,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going three and out, it doesn't
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: matter where on the field you start. I get that.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: But it's not just returning a kickoff, right, I mean,
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: this is the punning game, and it's playing defense and
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: flipping the field and doing a lot of things. Right.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: I mean, it's twenty ninth officially, But here's the thing
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: that's funny. It's five yard difference from being twenty ninth
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: and fourth. This is why the Jags starting their average
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: basically twenty six yard line, and the Saints start who
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: are fourth at the thirty one five yards. Well, I mean,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: but the Jets are dead last and they're only point
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: five behind the Jaguars. That's my point of saying that
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: is this is not a statistic that I put as
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: much weight in because the margin of but three of
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: the top four teams in the league are in that
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: category at the top. I agree. I'm not saying it's
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: not important. I'm just saying turnover margin, red zone offense
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: will make a bigger impact. That's all. I'm not saying
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: it's not important by any means. We used to every Friday,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Tom used to give these keys to victory and they
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: started off like at four. By the end it was
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: like eighty five keys to victories. Um, that we needed
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: to do to win, a little bit of hyperbole there,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: not much though, but one of the statistics he showed
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: us every week is your percentage of scoring based on
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: where you start on the field, so like minus ten
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: your ex percent all the way up and then saying
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: like you know how important field position was the message
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: of that statistics, And I think that's what Doug was
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: talking about there is that they need to have better
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: better field position for the offense. A lot of people
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: think that one of the key stats that you look
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: at is your yards per attempt passing minus your yards
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: per attempt allowed passing. So in other words, like for example,
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: what the JA wars yards protempt is actually pretty good
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: right on offense? Okay, I have again, what's seven there? Seven?
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: Seven point one? That you subtract the seven point three
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: that they allow, and that that that's what you get
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: your numbered. If you look at the good teams, usually
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: their numbers are pretty significant in terms of the separation
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: between the two. Yeah, you're really digging out. I mean,
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: I mean you'd be under stody, Like for example, the
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: Bengals allow eight yards in attempt on defense eight that
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: he would be one of those war guys. What's this war?
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: What's his game? What's his game? Above replacement? No, I
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: don't do all that, not that it just is batting average?
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Is I need to know? No? I know I would
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: what's B five three come from baseball? I've never been
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: heard of those before. Half the time I worked in
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: it for ten years, I don't know what half of
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: them are. I'll be honest with you, the makeup used
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: to be. He used to be batting average, home runs
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: and r bis right and strike outs, slugging presentage. Yeah,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: now what do they have? What do they have down
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: jp your basics? It's war, it's what is Yeah, there's
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: all kind of it's how do you calculate that? I
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: have no idea. But you know it's funny too tony
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: when you try and like say, uh, you know, I
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: don't think about the you know, the analytics get a
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: little carried away. They get so defensive about it. Analytics.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: I'm actually so angry at you. I'm actually a big
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: I mean, if you think of what analytics are, We've
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: been doing it for years with statistics. They're just taking
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: another step further. And I think analytics have huge value
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: and uh and uh worth how you pick players and
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: how you manage a team and everything. I think you
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: should be a piece of the pie, part of the
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: information that is added to the overall pie of your
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: that you're trying to decide of what to do and
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: when to do it and how to do it. I
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: just sometimes you get so far into the weeds. I
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: get lost. And when you get throw part in the
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: region loose side of the fact player candy play does
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: have heart getting does he have the effort can play.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: I'll give you a perfect example. Yesterday in the Carolina game,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Carolina was playing, Uh, I didn't get that one at all.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: Who was Carolina playing? Yesterdays? They're down by two touchdowns,
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: they score with what like seven eight minutes after the game,
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: beat correct, and instead of making a kicking in the
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: extra point, making seventeen, they went for two. And I
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: saw because the analytics say that by going for two
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: and if you make better chance to chance of winning,
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: but if you only kick the field goal, you only
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: have a forty seven percent chance of winning the extra point.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: You mean, yeah, the extra point, And so we went
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: for two because the analytics say that, you know, if
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: you make it, you have a greater chance, and if
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: you don't make it, you still can go for two
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: if you score another of the time to tie it.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: To me that with that much time left and the
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: way the overtime rules are, I would kick a field
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: goal every single time, extra point ex extra point. I'm sorry,
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: I kicked every time. And here's all I have to
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: say to the analytics guys. And and you have a
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: bunch of them in your building. And Tony Khan, God
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: bless him, is a big analytics guy, and I believe
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: in a lot of them, the analytics. But like I
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: told him once, when you tell me fourth of an
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: inch is the same as fourth and then come talk
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: to me, because on the stat sheet that they all
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: use for data breakdown, it's the exact same, right if
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: you're the one fourth and fourth and fourth in fourth
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: in one and a half yards and it's not the same,
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: No it's not. But by their data, it's all the same.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: So they can't break it down in the fourth and inches.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: If you can't break it down into inches, then your
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: data is not real in my mind. And I made
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: that point that Tony Conny said, you make a good
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: point because fourth in an inch is not the same
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: as fourth in the yard and a half. It's not well,
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: I mean my example of the Panthers Packers game and
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: the analytics and all that. Maybe it's right, and we
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: had this conversation week two when we went for it
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: for the win against the Texans, and maybe the analytics
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: say that's the right play. I would argue though, in
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: that situation, you have to take more than just what
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: the math is telling you. That's piece. That's a piece
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: of it. But I also want to go into the
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: flow of the game and what is happening because it
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: mats ears And if it's four and you haven't stopped
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: him the entire game, you go for two and then
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: you go for two. But if it's a low scoring game,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: like it was Agains the Texans, you just tied it up,
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: your defensive limited him. You you kicked the extra point
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: and go to over time. So I really did so,
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: and I'm sure that I've had these cards, Like I
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: think analypts are so important because like I want as
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: much information as I can get to make a decision.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: I'm just not basing it on just that though. How
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: your what do you think about the d v o
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: A ratings? I don't know. I can't that's like war
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: to mean, I don't even know what that means and
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: how they get it if I can't figure out how
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: they get it, Like what does that mean? Defense? Like
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: it's I don't even know what it is. But they
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: all I do is I do this Picks podcast and
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: the guy every time he said, now I go, Gere,
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: you go again with your d v o A. What
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: is it? Does he know, he knows he's a you know,
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: he's a stat guy. And what does it tell us?
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what it tells you. So Pete,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: before we have when we go into the break, I
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: want you to look up what d v o A
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: means and come back and tell us what d v
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: o A means, because I've read that as well, and
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. It's uh here, I'll
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: tell you right now. It's the Jets and Dolphins are
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: going in opposite directions on the d v o A
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: the week E d v o A ratings. What is it?
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: I don't know what idea? Can you ask the question
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: what the d v o A is ered? What does
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: d v o A? Defense Adjusted Value over our Average
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: calculates a team success based on the down a distance
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: of each play during the season, then calculates how much
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: more or less successful each team is compared to the
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: league average. I don't even know what you just said.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: You just said a bunch of words and a sentence
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: that I'm not sure made any sense to anyone listening
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: to us. Well, the top t v o A team
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty Niners. Okay. Number two is
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: the Patriots. Number three is the Chiefs. Number four is
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Sakes, Vikings, Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, Texans, Alright, Jacks,
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: Jaguars and d v O. A wow, it's great. I
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: wish I knew the top half of the league. Let's
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Social media questions right around
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: the corner, and a little later we look around the
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- 1:17:20Speaker 1: The Jags coming off the bye week four and five,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: They're headed to Indianapolis to face the Colts in week
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: eleven coming up and then onto Nashville to get those
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: Titans in week twelve. Hey, Pete, this is when I
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: know you have no idea what you just read about
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: that d d o A. Because if I ask you,
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: and this is how you really know something. And subject
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: if I said, Pete, I need you to explain that
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: to my ten year old daughter what d v o
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: A actually means. No, I couldn't. I could not tell
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: you what it is. You have no idea. No. I
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: calculated team success based on the data distance of each
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: played during the season. Then calculate how much more or
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: less successful each team is compared to the rest of
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: the league. Like that just sounded like remember like Charlie
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: Brown when he'd be listening to his teacher. I'm with you,
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: that's what I heard. That's what I just heard. I'm
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: trying to think, like, how would I explain that to somebody?
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't know. Well, I mean
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: it's down in distance against the rest of the league
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: a team's success base. So it's like you're good on
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: third and five and against of the league is banned
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: on third and five. You calculate the difference. I guess
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: you gund bonus points there. I have no I have
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: no idea. What the hell are you talking about? I
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: wonder who came up with that, Like some really smart
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: football out the football outsiders guys came up with it.
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: And and here's the thing. I think it's all good stuff,
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: and if you look at it, obviously tracks of the
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: teams that are having success this year. I just I
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: think that the power at any analytics like that is
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: being able to explain it of what the value of
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: it is to a coach or someone who's making the decisions.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: I mean, I think that sometimes we get too caught
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: up in all the analytics and instead of just watching.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: I mean, do you need analytics to tell you up
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and New York Jets and since Anni
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: Bengals and the Washington Redskins are bad football teams? That's
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: what I mean. Your eyes tell you that. And and
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: so the d v O d v O A, the
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: highest d v O A is the I think the
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: highest difference d v O defensive dv O A is
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: the Patriots. Okay, whatever, there's a quarterback d v O
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: A two right something. There's d v O A like
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: the fort and ours are high in the d v
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: o A right distance value against oppositions or opposing oppositions
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: never it is. It's defense adjusted value over average, but
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: it's the finest team of effiency ratings measured by proprietary
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: defense adjusted value over average system that breaks down every
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: single NFL play and compares the team's performance to a
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: league baseline based on situation in order to determine the
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: value over our average. Okay, great. The too long, didn't
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: read version is that it measures efficiency, and efficient teams
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: should win a lot of games. That's okay, great. Efficient
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: that if you're efficient, you're probably gonna win games that well.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: Like early on in the season, the Bucks were seventh
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: of d v l A and the record was two
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: and two, so it's not gonna build v o A
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: and they were three and one. My whole point I
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: was trying to get to, I don't want to make
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: this a conversation because I laugh at it with you, Tony,
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: because it's not a predictive tool. It just tells you
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: what time it is after the fact. Now you're you're
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: predicting that if the jat Wards go to the red zone,
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: they're gonna go seven and oh that's your predictive tool.
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: I'm saying those I'm saying those stats predicting. You just
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: say that before seven seven, and so you think they're
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: gonna My whole point is so based on all this,
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: the forty Niners are like the top of the StVO
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: Eggs pile. Um. Does anyone think on this show that
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: are gonna have success in the playoffs and end up
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: in Miami and the Super Bowl? They could? I'm starting
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: to believe more and more if you ask me right now,
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: if the Packers played the forty Niners in the playoffs,
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: who would I pick? I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: give you five teams. You ranked them from one to five,
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: one being you gotta admit San Francisco has to be
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: in the one spot right now. They've earned that, right, No, no, no,
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: I'm just these are I'm gonna give you five teams,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: unranked in no order, and you ranked them as teams
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: sitting here today you would predict to win the Super
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: Bowl or or represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Okay,
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna give you five teams. Forty Niners, right,
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: the Saints, Okay, Packers? All right? Vikings and I'm gonna
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: give the Eagles is the last team. Okay, One, I
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: would play who I picked to go to the super
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: Bowl in the first place to Packers. Two. I'd probably
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: put the Saints, even after what happened yesterday. Three three
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: forty Niners, four the Vikings, and five the Eagles. Okay,
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: how would you wreck them? Um, I don't even know
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: why I put the Eagles there, just trying to pick
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: a team. Okay, somebody's gotta win that division. Seattle there,
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: Seattle is probably better, more fair team because they're playing
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: better right now. So I have the Eagles last. I
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: would have I would have the Saints as one because
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: I think they're better on defense and I think you
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: can run against the Packers and I think that matters
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Put the Packers second. I probably put
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: the forty Vikings are tough for me because I like
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: the Vikings, and I mean I probably go forty Vikings
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: and Eagles. So similar to you, I probably just flipped
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: the top two. My point of saying that is it's
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: I mean buying far. According to the d v o
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: A is the forty Niners are the highest ranked d
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: v o A team, so you're now referencing d o A.
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: What the hell it is? Yeah, I'm not youn sure.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: The point is he's like saying d v o A.
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: The sounds smarter that way. Let's go to social media questions,
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: shall we. Let's start off today with at Son of
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: Douvo nine oh four. Jack's have to go six and
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: one down the stretch of the absolute worst to make
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: the playoffs. We play every team in the wild card
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: running except the Steelers. What are the odds we actually
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: make the playoffs? So I didn't do the math on this,
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: and I have no idea what the actual odds are,
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: but I give you the odds they're going seven no,
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: six and one, six and one. Sally already locks. Why
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: is that guy even asking that question? Son of the Ball.
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: You need to listen to the show more often. I
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: think this guy ripped you at some point, so I
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: think he asked to I think he's lit Tony up before,
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: Son of a, Son of the all the guy that
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: I should I was gonna block. I forgot to do. Yeah,
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: probably I forgot to block him. You can hop on
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: there now if you'd like. You know the problems. I
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: don't even know how to block on Twitter. I have
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: to have Pete teach me because he's I'm an expert
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: at it now. He's the master blocker at our Second
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: question from the at the Josh Hampton aside from Nick,
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: who was the most important player we're getting back from injury?
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: And a bonus question? If Pete got thrown out on
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: the field, what position would he excel at? Wow? Um, okay,
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: so I'll save the second one. Um, I'll save the
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: Pete question. Second. Um, So, besides Nick Foles, who's the
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: most important player coming back for me? Would be? Uh?
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: At least in the last game. D D Westbrook was
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: a huge one thing. Yeah, I think d D just
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: because you need someone to work the middle of the field.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Slot receiver tight ends are not showing much production right now,
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: so I go d D too. Yeah. Yeah, d D.
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: Bonus question. The only position Pete would excel at, and
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: I'm not sure he would even excel at it would
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: be holder and field goal. That's it. Yeah, that's about it.
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: I can't argue that. I mean, I don't want to
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: be any part of any other position with those nasty, mean,
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: big giant men coming at me. Nope. But if you
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: pay me a couple of million. I'd take a snap
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: and take a take a pitch and run into everybody.
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: You can beat me up for milk. A couple of milk,
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: that's all it would take. Huh oh you give you
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: write a check for a couple of meals, Put me
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: into uniform and tell the defense they can blast me
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: all you want. I'm taking the pitch. They might kill me,
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: but I'm taking the pitch. You might ever get to
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: spend a cent of that, but so I would enjoy
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: watching that. God should be great. I'd get up, though,
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: I think i'd get off eventually. At some point I
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: get off, I'd pop up and say, you got nothing
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: nothing on me. I don't think you're popping up? Popping up? Okay,
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: next question, would you do a JP? Oh yeah and
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: a heartbeat? Come on? Of course? Kidding me absolutely. Would
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: you have gotten in a ring with Tyson for two million?
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: How long do you have to last? Of course you would.
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: I would have tackled him. I would have just out
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: have mauled him and just jumped on him. I think
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: I'd rather take a pitch and get hit by all
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: those guys, then go across the middle and have a
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: guy beat bear down on me and blast me. Would
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: you do that? I agree with that one. I don't know,
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: it doesn't I mean I was out there, so I
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: mean I do what I mean, you actually did it,
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: already did it. But the Tyson was always a good
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: one because back when, I mean when I was in college,
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: he was high school, he was in his heyday. Um,
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: it's a bad man. That was a bad bad man.
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: I saw a video him the other weekenctually huh no, no, No,
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would get in tight. I would be like,
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: because he's not very big. Have you ever seen Mike
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: Tyson week he's here, He's not a big like I
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: saw him like, I just like, I would really be
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: guarded trying to get in there. I don't want to
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: catch one of those rights to my chin. But I
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: think I would just like jump on him. I'm not
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because I'm not a huge boxing connoisseur.
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: But if I remember right when he would get in
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: tight with guys, he didn't need much space to break
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: away and get a punch him quick. No, I know,
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: but I don't think he was going against much many guys. Oh,
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: if you like, and if he hit me in my
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: stomach right now, I puke on him and then go down.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: If he hit me in the ribs, yeah, I think
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: it would be over. That's a good point. At least
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: you got cushioned now, and I'm like when you were
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: I didn't think of that because I'm going to protect
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: my face and he caught me in the ribs. Oh,
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: but I think you might tackled him. I could get
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: d cute, you know, like you could like end the fight.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: Wouldn't be a knockout. Yeah, if I just tackle him
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: to stand there and box him, No, no, I said,
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: getting the ring with him, and so if I got
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: to the ground threw him down, they you know, break
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: us up, and I threw them down again, they just
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: disqualified me. I'm out of the fight. That'd be my
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: game plan. And hope that he didn't catch me with
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: a rib shot or a shot to the chin, because
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: then I watched him it had been n night, Oh God,
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: night night. As Iron Mike said, everybody has a plan
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: until I get punched to the mouth, right, Tony's playing
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: with change in a hurry. Yeah, we go down and
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: collect the money too, Just like if I took the
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: pitch hit me, I'm going down. Don't hit me again.
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: I'm out. Give me my money, tapping him on the helmet,
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: Get out of here. At Matt Curly Riser as the
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: next question, the jacksual the only a FC South team
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: to lose versus them. So I just got a picture
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: from our good friend Mark Burnell shaking Mike Tyson's hand.
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: And Mark is six ft six one used to be
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: he's a little older. Now they're probably shrinking a little bit.
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: He is He towers over Mike Tyson? Is that accurate?
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: Towers a strong word, but much bigger. He's taller than him.
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: I'll say that I was. I was shocked. I mean,
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: how uh iron Mike was not as big as I
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: would have thought. He was compact bad man punch. All right,
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: let's get the next question. At Matt Curly Riser, Jackson
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: the only a f C South team the losers as
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kansas City, basically the same team as last
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: year Indy, Houston and Tennessee. Aren't that much better talent
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: wise than the Jags? You had all pulled out a
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: w while we have been blown out two years in
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: a row. What haven't we figured out that the rest
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: of the a f C South has Um Two things. One,
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: it was opening day, they were completely healthy. Um quarterback
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: got knocked out. I think that shocked this team a
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: little bit. I mean there's a lot of things that
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: it's game to game week the week. It's when you
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: catch a team with that said. I mean, you're not wrong,
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: and you're in your question, it's accurate, but I think
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: it's dangerous to look at it that way. Well, the
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: Texans went up there and threw the ball on him
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: and beat him. The Colts ran in on him and
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: physically bald him. And then you saw what Derrick Henry
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: did yesterday, ran right through him all day long, all
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: day yard yesterday. They have issues stopping the run. And
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: again he goes back to what you said, Tony, you
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: gotta be having to run the ball, stop the run.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: You gotta be physical. They're not physical. I'm curious to
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: see this week they play the Chargers in Mexico City.
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: Can they stop the Chargers seemed to have found a
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: little bit in the run game with Gordon and Neckler.
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: Can they stop that run game? Well, it's because they're
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: actually calling it. Since they may change they change offensive coordinators.
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: Ken was was let go and like a lot of teams,
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: if you don't call it, it's hard to run the ball.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: And they called it against the UH Raiders. But your
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: boy who you picked over, I could can I revise that?
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: After last week? Philip Rivers head The other night Pete
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: said he'd take him over Deshaun Watson. I was watching
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: that game, saying, Pete, I'm glad you're not the GM. No,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him over Deshaun Wats and I have
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: amended that he's regretted. Philip Rivers is regressed. Oh he's
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: not a young man. He also leads a lead of
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: passing yards. I think too. They throw it too much
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: offensive too. It's not very good. But they threw it
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: too with Wizard and they need to run the ball.
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: The right tackle was a spinning top. The other day,
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: did you do that game, Tony against the Raiders? No,
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: I was. I was at home getting ready to go
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: to Boston. I think the whole week off last week
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: it was great. Unbelie, you got this week's game on
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: Westwood one Thursday night, Cleveland Pittsburgh. I'm looking for that's
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. I can't wait to go
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: watch that game and they played him twice in three weeks. Awesome.
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for social questions. So you
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: had one more thought, you guys. I was trying to
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: get it in, but interrupt those conversation. Here, guys, the
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: stars of the show. I just work here at j
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: Matt Moore. Any idea what to expect from Jake Ryan?
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: If healthy? Do you think he'll play Slash Contribute soon?
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: Jake Ryan the linebacker was back at practice today, but
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: I think he's still on the nf I list. Uh,
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: meaning they have twenty one days of him practicing before
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: they have to make a decision. My guesses they'll take
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: all twenty one days, get him in shape and see
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: where he's at. Where's he playing if he comes back? Uh?
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: Sam linebacker? Maybe I don't know, especially their health. If
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: they were healthy at that spot, would he play? Pete?
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: I've never seen him. I have no idea. You've seen
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: him play in Green Bay, but he played middle linebacker.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: He's not taking Miles. He's not gonna take Miles his job,
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: So I don't know what he's like as a strong
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: side linebacker. I like to find out. I mean, everybody
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: else's Pete the week, we didn't have any linebacker, So
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: I know the linebackers are all healthy this week, so
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: they're gonna go back to the original starting line line up.
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: Then yeah, well I think kind I think Nagy is
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: still gonna start. Yeah, so he's he's the starter and
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: Jacobs will be back playing the strong side linebacker. That's
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. So so the rookie lost
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: his job then for now, I remember because they were
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: having an issues earlier in the year. That's why they
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: made the change, like they were having some assignment issues,
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: just like the guy he replaced. Oh wow. Back in
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: a moment, we'll go around the AFC. Shot fired by
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe. P Priscoe, People of assignments, shooting from the
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: hip today. All right, listen, you just keep on firing,
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: Pete review coming up, we'll go around the National Football
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- 1:38:47Speaker 1: the brink the unedited, yeah, uncensored version coming out on
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: podcast later. Man, I mean Pete JP starts telling stories
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: in the BRAINK dude, I have to my ears start burning.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: What was the story? I can't say. It has something
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: to do with a bowl game somewhere that he used
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: to go to and I can't repeat the story. There
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: was something else. I'll hey, by the way, should we
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: say something in honor of JP about Alabama Peter Up?
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: I will say that for two months I said, LS,
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: you was gonna win that game. Let's go, how great?
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: What a great football? It was a great game. Pretty
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: dark good. I'm not okay. Here's the thing though, Joe
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: Burrows very good. But are you convinced that he's like
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: the first overall pick? Is he better than he has
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: a little Tom Brady in him? Listen to this? Is
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: he better than the kid from Oregon? The kid from
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: Morgan's too inconsistent to you think, yeah, yeah, you watch him.
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: You watch that Pack twelve, you've seen him play. He'll
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: make a throw and you'll go, oh my gosh, and
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: then he'll make two of the worst throws you ever see.
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: Is inconsistent. I think Burrow is better. I just saw
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: Burrow get out of the pocket early a few times.
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: I thought, when you play in Alabama, that's not this
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: is not the Alabama Bowl. They had no pass rush.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: He was unaffected most of the game. I think he's
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: really good. I think he's got that movement inside the
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: pocket that you like, um, he's a little more athletic
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: than I thought he was. And his arm isn't great,
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: but it's good enough. Is he better than tall? You
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: couldn't really evaluate too off of that. Here's my on,
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: Like the ankle wasn't bad until like the game was over,
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: and then he started wanting, like like like you knew
- 1:40:51Speaker 1: he was hurt, but like everything was like he was
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: managing going through the game and then the game was
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: like out of reach and he had this limp like
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: he just got shot in the leg. I mean, not
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: only that, he's throwing the three first rounders, probably those
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: receivers for Bama. Oh that's Smith, Jerry, Jooty's four. Judy's
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: gonna be the first receiver taking He's a freak. When
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: Drugs goes, when Ruggs goes to the combine and runs
- 1:41:21Speaker 1: four to three, they're gonna go nuts on him. And
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: he'll be a first round He'll be he'll be the
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: chief next year. And Smith and Smith who's gonna leave,
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: will be a first round pick. All three of them
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: will be. Yeah. They're good. Yeah, And the Elisi receivers
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: are pretty darn good too. They put up will be
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: a second or third round pick and the Chase kids
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: not eligible until a couple of years. But here's different.
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: Let me tell you that was that game was in
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: the past, has always been great defenses. Those defenses are
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: no good. Neither the defense is very good. I lost
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: a lot of the last few years. It's too bad.
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: It's too bad. The USC Arizona State game didn't matter
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: and we didn't even pay attention to it. They played. Yeah,
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: see one, we hung on with a bag as you
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: played the backup quarterback, even well, we're on our third quarterback.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: You understand that, right, Pete, I get it. But your
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: USC's supposed to have about eight of them because you cheat.
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: We don't obviously. Let's take a look at the a
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: f C South results from yesterday, and we've mentioned this
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: game a couple of times already. The Titans over the Chiefs.
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: Derrick Henry had himself a day at the office. Hundred
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: eighty eight rush yards, two touchdowns, and the Titans walked
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: the potential game tying field goal as time expired. Was
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: he offside or not? At first glance, I thought he
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: was off watch I watched the all twenty two. It
- 1:42:43Speaker 1: was perfectly time. He read the head of the holder,
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: the holder at a towel, and he had been having
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: the same snap counter, same cadence of how he was
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: asking for the ball the entire game. He gave it
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: away heads up, played by the Titans special teams and
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: number fourty six whatever his name is. It was a
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: great play, by the way. You you you saw the
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: twenty two already, and he wasn't offside because the TV
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: table looked like he was offside, but they never showed
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: the sidelining. He was not offside. It was a great player. Then,
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: you know what, Tony. It didn't look like that kick
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: was going through anyways. It looked like it was drifting
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: to the right. He blocked it so early, Pete, there's
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: no talent. Yeah, well you look at it when it
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: comes off his leg. You'll see it looks like And
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: they butchered the field goal the series before too, or
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: two series before. Earlier in the game they butchered on
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: a bus. But you gotta lead, and you let Ryan
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: Tannehill go right down the field on you come on, Chiefs.
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: Defense is very defense is a very good Pete, No,
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: it's not. And their six and four that game. They
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: played the Chargers this week and that's in Mexico City.
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: That's a big game, and that's I think about that
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: all the hub about the Chiefs. If the Chiefs lose
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: to the Chargers this week, they're a game in front
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: of them and then and they could be tied with
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah, a lot of football left love it.
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: I love the NFL best. Dolphins over the Colts sixteen
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: to twelve. Brissette was out, how year started in his
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: place at quarterback. Cut the old man, Cut the old man,
- 1:44:10Speaker 1: Get rid of the old man. Cut the old man.
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: He can't kick anymore. They gotta get him out of there.
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: How many of yesterday miss the extra point would have
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: made it sixteen and would it would have put him,
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: It would have put him at thirteen. One would have
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: made it. He tried to retire and they wouldn't let him.
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: He's retired, alright, you can't care get him out of there.
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: Jacksonville should be good. They're playing that kicker. Look, he's
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: a whole of favor. But the age creeps in, you're done.
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: You can't make kicks. They had to go for a
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: touchdown at the end. They had the ball deep in
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: the Dolphins in but they had to go for a touchdown,
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: and on fourth and ten he threw a nine yard best.
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: It was terrible. He got tackled. All right, should we
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: do the power power here's the a sc South standings.
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: By the way, of course, Houston leads away Indie Tennessee
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: and the Jags are at the bottom of the division. Okay, Pete, go,
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: you do powering first. I'm gonna put him exactly how
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: the division is wrong? You go ahead of Tennessee. You're
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: so narrow minded. First of all, the Texans are one, okay,
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: the Jaguars are two, The Tennessee Titans are three, and
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: the Colts are four. How are the Jaguars too? Let
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: me explain it to you. It's very simple. Texans obviously
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: their first place, their first place in the division six
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: and three best record. That's There's we've already beaten the
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: Titans once. The lock is on to beat him twice,
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: so we have to be ahead of the Titans. So
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: at worst it puts us at third at three. Well,
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: then you have the Colts. Any team who loses the
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: Dolphins automatically goes to the bottom. So the Culture last
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: in the power rankings, so that automatically, by default puts
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: us the number two. Plus we're gonna beat the culture
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: this week. That solidifies the number two spot. Word number two.
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: I can't give you that. I can't give it. The
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: Texans are number one Jackson right now, Jackson, number two Jackson.
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: The Titans are three and the Jaguars or four. Not
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: beat the Colts number one? No, how can you put
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: the Titans ahead of us? We've already beat him once.
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: They got a better record. It doesn't matter. It's not
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: the record, it's power rankings. Yeah, the only thing that
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: truly the power rankings don't matter. This is like the BCS,
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: we're just voting. You don't think the Titans right now
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: are better than the Jaguars coming off that loss to
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: the Texans. No, And you don't know what Nick Foles
- 1:46:38Speaker 1: can bring. You have no idea what Nick Foles? I
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: know exactly what. You know. He's gonna bring seven wins,
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: That's what he's gonna bring, seven wins. No idea, you
- 1:46:45Speaker 1: have no idea. I know I wouldn't lock it. I
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: wouldn't lock it if I didn't know. When was it
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: last time Nick Foles played a game, a real game,
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: a whole game, the whole game that would be last
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. That's it. It's been almost a year.
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: He he's better off the bench. This was all part
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: of the plan, Pete. The plan was, you know something
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: that happened, strown away for nine games, and come off
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: the bench when he plays his best, lead us to
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's all part of the plan. This is
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: like the BCS minus the Sea, isn't it. One of
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: those teams in that division lost the game with their
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: backup quarterback yesterday, who is awful. It doesn't matter if
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: you lose to the Dolphins. You're on an act at
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: the bottom. It's written in the bilas. We're back in
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: a moment. We're gonna go over the rest of the
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: games from week ten. All right, national football. We're gonna
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: do that when we come back. Monday night preview from
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: JP Yes, and it's an actually good game, great game.
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- 1:51:08Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour JP shattered Tony was Sally Pete Prisco. Yeah,
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: our um commercial break podcast is gonna be epic today.
- 1:51:17Speaker 1: I just fixed. I just fixed college football. Peete, what
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: do you do if you if you want to do
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: it right? You have an eight team playoff, five conference
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: champions automatically, and you have three wild cards that are
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: voted on, and then the first round you play at
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: the campus have the higher ceed of team, second round
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: of the campus of the higher city of team, and
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: then the championship games at the ball game called good,
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: let's go go to work. I like it. Then the
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: conference means something too bad. USC and Arizona State would
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: never see a playoff even then, wonder I wonder why.
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: I wonder why Arizona State USC can't compete with everybody?
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: Why is that? I don't know why. I don't know.
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: Why don't we don't get the same players, recruit better?
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: M hmm, hard to do. Let's go around the National
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: Football League and week shot fired again, shots fired, Allegations
- 1:52:19Speaker 1: fired by Pete Frisco. No, I'm just it's just hard
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: to recruit the Tempe you you've been to Tempe. It's
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: not no, You're right, just get him there. Week ten
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: Bears over the Lions. Trabinsky through three touchdowns. No Matt
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: Stafford for the Lions. Pete No, and then again, this
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: guy's a tough guy. He's played through a bunch of stuff.
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: Of broken bones in your back. I've never told you
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: ever broken bones in your back. No, and I hope
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: I never do. I can't imagine him popping right back
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: in and playing next week. Can you know he's gonna
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: be out for a while? Doesn't even mean that's crazy
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: and they're basically eliminated. So he shut him out right
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: If I get a hundred sixty four straight starts, I mean,
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: this is a guy who's not I mean, he's tough
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: and they probably had to force him not to play
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: in the lines. I actually think Patricia has done a
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: good job. This is a Lion scene is better than
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: the record. But they've had some really bad breaks this year.
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: Bad losses. Yeah, it has a bad losses to Lamar
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: Jackson right there in the m v P race fifteen
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: and seventeen, three touchdown passes and a spectacular forty seven
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: yard touchdown run that looked like Michael Vick and the
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: Ravens hammered the Bengals. He's better than I thought he
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: was going to be. I'll be the first one to
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: admit it. You hated Russell Wilson three years ago. And
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: now you love Russell Wilson. You think he's m v P,
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: which I tend to agree with you. Right now, he's
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: playing great football. Check with me after tonight if okay,
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: but you know you know what I mean? Can Lamar
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: Jackson win your heart over and become the player that
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is. Here's the difference, though, Tony what heat
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: Everybody keeps pointing out how great he has thrown them
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: all from the pocket, and he is. He's been really
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: good from the pocket. But that pocket is helped by
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: the fact that he can run the way he runs,
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: and you defend him differently. What happens when you defend
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: him without the threat of him being able to run
- 1:54:14Speaker 1: the way he does? Because down any Russia's for two
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: orter and fifty yards on you. I mean, Michael Vick
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: did It took ten years before Michael Vick slowed down Pete?
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: And this guy is is every bit or better. He
- 1:54:27Speaker 1: might not be as fast as Vic, but I think
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: he's a better athlete. Like side to side, who's a
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: better pastor um comparable? Right now? Equal? I'm not sure?
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: I mean. And here's the thing, this is why I
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: think Lamar Jackson's gonna be a great NFL quarterback is
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: because I've saw that. I've seen improvement and his his
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: ability to really work at it, his accuracy and his
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: ability to throw from the pocket from year one to
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: year two, like you said that night and day like.
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: So if this guy's like he wants to be a like.
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael Vick ever wanted to be
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: the pocket guy, especially early in his career. But this
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: guy said before the season wasn't gonna run as much.
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: He's running more well, but he doesn't take hits. Yeah,
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: I get it, but eventually he's gonna slow down. You're
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to throw from the pocket.
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: But he's improved. He's showing that he has the ability.
- 1:55:23Speaker 1: But when you defend him differently when he can't run,
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: will you be that much better if he keeps up
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: working at it. Yeah, I think Lamar Jackson is a
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: fabulous player, and I think he's I mean, kudos to
- 1:55:33Speaker 1: the Ravens for taking them and doing what they're doing
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I agree, he's the best right now.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: He's the best of that class. There's no question about that.
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: Brown's beat the Bills. How mr field goal with twenty
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: two seconds to play the Browns survive. Yeah, that was
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: I was listening to that game on the radio coming
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: back from the airport, and the way it was managed
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: at the end, it was tough. They they had a
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: fourth and five, they had the long field goal. House
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: has not made a field well over fifty yards all year.
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: It's in Cleveland, cold weather, why not go for it.
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: I was surprised they kicked that field goal. Yeah, but yeah,
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: I guess you got He's he's over. Yeah over. Let's
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: move on to the rest of these games here. They
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: can't stop the run by the way, that's a problem
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: for them. Falcons beat the Saints to nine. What happened
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: to the Saints? Pete, I didn't see any of the
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: They got whipped. They got whipped on both lines. Guys
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: who wouldn't expect Cam Jordan didn't have a good game.
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: Armstead didn't have a good game. The Falcons got after
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: the court. They sacked through Brees six times. I think
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: it's because I think I think it's because I think
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: it's because they move for he Morris from wide receiver
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: coach and DV coach. That's why that's what it was.
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: And it took over and jeff Old Jets over the
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: Giants seven, Daniel Jones through four touchdown passes and the
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: loss the Bucks over the Cardinals thirty seven. Kyler Murray
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: had a day, but the game winning touchdown came with
- 1:57:06Speaker 1: one forty three to play. Packers over the Panthers. This
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: is a great football game at Lambau and the snow
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: down to the final seconds of the goal line the
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: run play. Would you have run McCaffrey there? People, No,
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: I would. The kid was throwing them all over the place.
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: Why would you run McCaffrey. Throw it to him if
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: you want to, don't run Hi up the middle. I
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: was dumb. Steelers over the Rams because Fitzpatrick had a
- 1:57:25Speaker 1: fumble return touchdown and an interception, and Blake Portal's got
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: in for a running play. Yeah, and said why did
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: he come in? You know why came in because Golf
- 1:57:33Speaker 1: got hurt on the play. He got hurt his hip
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: on the play, and the Rams are in trouble. It
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: goes back to what we've said for a couple of weeks. Now.
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: Their offensive line can't hold up, they can't run the ball,
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: and I don't think golf is good enough to carry
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: that team. Kings Vikings over the Cowboys, Kirk Cousins a
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns, Dalvin Cook with a big day. Dalvin
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: Cook is a stud. The Vikings defense with those two ends,
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: they need to clean up the corner their secondary. Xavier
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: Roads missed the game. He's not playing great anyways all year.
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: But I like that Vikings team. I think they're gonna
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: be scary getting into playoffs because of uh what they
- 1:58:09Speaker 1: can do offensively. And I gotta believe Mike Zamber will
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: get that defense going. And the Cowboys Elliott doesn't look right.
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: He does not look right. J P. It's the best
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: matchup of the year on Monday Night Football, a battle
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: of NFC West powerhouses. M VP candidate Russell Wilson leads
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: the fifth best offense in football for the seven and
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: two Seattle Seahawks Jimmy Garoppolo on the other side, but
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: the NFL's top ranked overall defenses carried the eight no
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners, both teams two and oh in
- 1:58:38Speaker 1: the division so far? Who you got tonight in Santa
- 1:58:41Speaker 1: clar Al Right before I say who I got? I
- 1:58:44Speaker 1: thought the start of that was awful. There was no
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: energy you or coughing off air. You were struggling. I
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: didn't like the energy. You picked it up and finished strong,
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: so i'll give you that. But if I was rating that,
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: that's a B minus effort right there. I like the
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: forty Niners because I like their defense. I think they
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: stopped the run and then they get after the Seahawks.
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners win the game. I think
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: they'll run the ball. They're getting their tackles back and
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: that makes for them to be a good offensive line.
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, though it's gonna be a lot
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: of points scored. I think Russell Wilson scored some points
- 1:59:13Speaker 1: against that defense. But the forty Niners win the game. Pete,
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: have a great week. We'll talk to you Prisco seven
- 1:59:22Speaker 1: in a row. That Tonyselly who has picked the Jaguars
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: to win out. I'm JP Shadrick. When you start stronger,
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: JP starts stronger. We'll try it again next time. I
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: like it. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.