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Empower U - Tom DeWeese - The Dangers of AI and The Growth of Data Centers · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five KOs the talk station anyday forty seven here fifty
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  Speaker 1: five KCV talk station. Empower Youamerica dot org. So you
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  Speaker 1: get all the empower Use Seminar information. You can log
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  Speaker 1: in for the empower Use Seminar classes from home or
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  Speaker 1: show up at the empower Use Seminar studios when of
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  Speaker 1: course they are at the studios. And one of those
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  Speaker 1: speakers that's going to be there tomorrow night, seven pm.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Deweez, Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Shure.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing a seminar tomorrow at seven on the dangers
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  Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence and explosive growth of data centers. Good
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  Speaker 1: to have you on this morning, Tom, Well, thank.
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  Speaker 2: You appreciate that. And yep, that's what we're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And by way of background, some my listeners know you're
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  Speaker 1: one of the nation's leading edvocates of individual liberty, free enterprise,
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  Speaker 1: private property rights, personal privacy, your founder, your you serve
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  Speaker 1: as founder and president of the America Policy Center, author
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  Speaker 1: to three books, and of course you've been voicing concerns
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  Speaker 1: over the radical agenda, the environmental movement, questioning its motives
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  Speaker 1: and that's something I do. This is where the environmental
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  Speaker 1: movement runs headlong into this race for artificial intelligence. We apparently,
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  Speaker 1: and some people view this as a global race. We
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  Speaker 1: are racing against China, for example, to counter Beijing's global
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  Speaker 1: ambitions to expand its techno authoritarian surveillance state and bolster
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  Speaker 1: its military power. We apparently have to keep up, so
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  Speaker 1: everyone says, but this comes at a tremendous cost. When
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  Speaker 1: you marry artificial intelligence with the massive amount of power
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  Speaker 1: and resources they need to run, we of course run
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  Speaker 1: into a supply of energy problem, which hits the green
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  Speaker 1: people right where it hurts. How do we resolve all
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  Speaker 1: this and what is the problem? Do we need these
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  Speaker 1: centers or are we maybe getting into a problem that
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  Speaker 1: your libertarian leaning set least seemingly are going to run
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  Speaker 1: headlong into.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many things to discuss on all this,
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  Speaker 2: and the let me go to the environmental thing first
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  Speaker 2: of all, because this shows the hypocrisy of the environmental movement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for fifty years they've been telling us that we have
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  Speaker 2: to have open space. We can't even have suburbs in
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  Speaker 2: our cities. And we've got you know, for the animals
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  Speaker 2: and for the air to breathe and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: And now all of that open area is starting to
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  Speaker 2: be put under roof by these massive data centers, some
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  Speaker 2: of the ten acres wide, and you know, just massive
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  Speaker 2: in size. And of course then they always told us
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  Speaker 2: we had to protect the water in the air, and
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  Speaker 2: these this, you know what they're pushing on all this,
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  Speaker 2: These data centers are using a huge amount of water
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  Speaker 2: to keep all these computers cool and everything. And so
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  Speaker 2: where are they Why aren't they in the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the fight. They're right on the front lines to fight
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  Speaker 2: these things. And I've always said and you probably have
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  Speaker 2: you been fighting this, you know it too. They really
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  Speaker 2: weren't about the environment. They were about control. And this
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  Speaker 2: is what we're up against. Well now with these data centers,
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  Speaker 2: do we need them? We're talking about you know, this
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  Speaker 2: Arctic fish intelligence AI that literally is changing and involved
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  Speaker 2: in every single aspect of our lives. Everything you do,
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  Speaker 2: everybody you associate with, everything you buy, everything you own,
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  Speaker 2: your transportation system, everything all under in these computers to
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  Speaker 2: follow and see what you're doing. And digital money, digital
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  Speaker 2: id uh, you know, digital things for your health everything. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the thing about China, you know, they're telling us we've
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  Speaker 2: got to stay ahead of them. Well, the fact of
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  Speaker 2: the matter is maybe it is something very useful for
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  Speaker 2: the military. You know, I think we're seeing right now
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  Speaker 2: of our military how it's operating using this kind of technology.
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  Speaker 2: Uh fine, But if what what would really give China
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  Speaker 2: power is if everything in our lives is in a
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  Speaker 2: computer and they have massive hackers that can come in
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  Speaker 2: and check all that out and take control of your money, supply,
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  Speaker 2: take control of our electronics and everything, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: need that. The thing is that, I mean that gives
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  Speaker 2: them the upper hand. What would put us in charge
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  Speaker 2: and protect us is that we are protecting people's privacy,
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  Speaker 2: we're protecting people's integrity and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: And toime, is that even possible in these modern times?
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  Speaker 1: You just pointed out that the Chinese hackers have infiltrated
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  Speaker 1: almost everything we know about infiltrations of our grid, and
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  Speaker 1: that exists independent of artificial intelligence. So saying we want
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  Speaker 1: to and I embrace the concept of perfecting our protecting
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  Speaker 1: our privacy and our freedoms and most notably the Fourth Amendment,
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  Speaker 1: which people seem to ignore anymore. But this is going
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  Speaker 1: on regardless. AI is out there in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's going to go away, so
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  Speaker 1: are we Maybe is it foolish for us to say, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to go down that road because it
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  Speaker 1: does present these challenges and these concerns or our civil
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  Speaker 1: liberties and our freedoms. When the rest of the world
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  Speaker 1: seems to be moving in that direction, aren't we just
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  Speaker 1: sort of creating an island of ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it would be an island of privacy and an
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  Speaker 2: island of independence. And we have got to protect people's privacy,
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  Speaker 2: their rights, their freedoms, and there's got to be some
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  Speaker 2: controls on this. I'm not saying ban AI obviously that's
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  Speaker 2: not going to happen, but we need to have controls
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  Speaker 2: over how it's used, who's using it, and not have
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  Speaker 2: these massive data banks over every single thing you do
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  Speaker 2: in your life, including whether you buy BF or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the problem, I guess the other part for
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  Speaker 1: the problem is that we have voluntarily participated by handing
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  Speaker 1: them over all this information. Anybody that loads an app
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  Speaker 1: knows full well you give permissions. You have given them
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  Speaker 1: the permission to gather your information. If you use these systems,
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  Speaker 1: you are basically walking into a situation where you know
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  Speaker 1: they're going to take your data and compile it. This
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  Speaker 1: is sort of the reverse or well, or well at
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  Speaker 1: least you know, when you look at nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: you had no choice. They intruded you, and it sucked
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  Speaker 1: to be you. You had no liberties. But now we
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  Speaker 1: walk into this with eyes open, been or at least
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  Speaker 1: stupidly walk into it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I agree, and people were doing that, and they
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  Speaker 2: sell all of this under the idea of convenience. You
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  Speaker 2: do this, your life is going to be easier, and
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  Speaker 2: people are buying into that. They've gotten used to having
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  Speaker 2: their computer for everything. But we have got to start
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  Speaker 2: understanding where this is going. This is total tyranny and
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  Speaker 2: the pressure of these Silicon Valley companies and so forth,
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing. One thing that we can do about
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  Speaker 2: this that they get control of it is control these
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  Speaker 2: data centers. And I'll tell you, over fifty years I've
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  Speaker 2: been in the fight for freedom, and I have never
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  Speaker 2: seen an issue grow so quickly of opposition, people starting
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  Speaker 2: to understand the problems. And I mean every day there
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  Speaker 2: are new developments of people standing up and saying no.
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  Speaker 2: We have to make sure that our local elected officials
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  Speaker 2: are not duped by these corporations who are telling them, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to make a whole lot of new jobs.
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  Speaker 2: There's all kinds of money that's going to come into
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  Speaker 2: the community for this. That is not true. And they
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  Speaker 2: are destroying the energy system and our water supplies and
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  Speaker 2: all of that. We've got to get control of that,
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  Speaker 2: and individuals need to.
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  Speaker 1: Do that well. Obviously, the demand of power that these
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  Speaker 1: things create presents an opportunity. I've kind of viewed AI
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  Speaker 1: maybe as a gift to counter this ridiculous get carbon
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  Speaker 1: dioxide out of our atmosphere because of the amount of
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  Speaker 1: power they need. They need small modular reactors which don't
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  Speaker 1: have carbon dioxide but also produce an abundance of power.
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  Speaker 1: If you force them to provide their own power, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the region where the data center is can enjoy the
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  Speaker 1: benefits of that additional power, and we can throw these
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  Speaker 1: carbon dioxide crazies out the window. Flip side of courses,
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  Speaker 1: they can use AI centers as an argument that no,
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  Speaker 1: they're terrible for the environment. We can't go down that road,
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  Speaker 1: which would be a benefit to the Chinese Communist Party
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  Speaker 1: and others because we stick with the green agenda. So
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  Speaker 1: there's kind of like a two prong option there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I mean they're mixed up all the way around.
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  Speaker 2: I get an email every day. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 2: how I got on the list, but it's from the
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  Speaker 2: promoters of all this. It's called What's in AI and
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  Speaker 2: they try to counter us a conspiracy theorists, you know,
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  Speaker 2: putting this stuff out there.
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  Speaker 1: Got it? Tom, I'm sorry, listen, Joe's give me the Harry,
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  Speaker 1: but we are out of time. So here's you got
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  Speaker 1: so much unpackaged. Tomorrow night, log in from home, be
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  Speaker 1: makes sure you're participating. Tom Dewiz Tomorrow Night, Empower You America,
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  Speaker 1: DoD Or. Great speaking with you, Tom. We need to
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  Speaker 1: do it again real soon.