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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the first episode of season two. Thank you so much for joining us for our next
- 0:18season. We have some very exciting things to cover. This episode we are going to be talking about the
- 0:25election, reflecting on the results, the timing of the results, what demographics went which way,
- 0:33polling, along with a lot of other topics. So it's going to be an exciting episode. Now without
- 0:41further ado, let's dive right in. Okay, so at 5 30 on Wednesday the 6th of November, the election
- 0:52was officially called. Trump had won. However, you could pretty much make your guess. People were
- 0:59calling it after he got 11 electoral votes. People said it at 8 30. People said it at 10 30. People
- 1:07said it at 12 midnight. You could really tell that he was pulling ahead from the very beginning.
- 1:13And especially when you like took a closer look at specific states like Virginia where Kamala was
- 1:20supposed to win by margins and it was closer than she would have hoped. You could kind of tell that
- 1:25the energy in the country and the voters that voted Republican were really strong this election
- 1:33year. So, Latreina, what did you kind of feel when not when you saw the results but when you
- 1:40were watching as the state came out? So everyone who's listened to our other episodes or checked
- 1:46our Instagram posts knows that I thought it would be a close race but I had Kamala winning. I was
- 1:53actually like very sure on this. Like I was so convinced and then it started. I just I kind of
- 2:01got a bad feeling as soon as it started when she had like zero votes and he had like 20 and logically
- 2:08I know that that's because like that's because of what states just get counted first. Her big states
- 2:14like Illinois and California and New York their votes hadn't come in yet but I still just got a
- 2:21bad feeling and then I think around eight I was like oh okay he won. So that's kind of when I
- 2:27really realized. And then in the morning obviously we had the results. So I think it was just not as
- 2:35close as I thought it would be and now kind of reading more after the election that makes sense
- 2:42but I was still shocked. I thought it was very differently from how I thought it would go.
- 2:47Yeah I agree completely. I thought that he was gonna win solely based off of past elections we've
- 2:53seen. His I don't want to say fan base but his voter base I guess. Tends to be really vocal and
- 3:04really passionate about him when he has run in the past and I just thought there was kind of a very
- 3:10low chance that someone not newer into the political space but someone who was thrown with seven
- 3:18months into this election after it had been you know four years eight years basically for
- 3:27former president Trump. Now I guess soon to be president to kind of rally up his voters
- 3:35and I felt as though she definitely did worse in the election than I thought she would. I actually
- 3:47think if she had a little more time she could have stated some more policies really given a strong
- 3:54clear plan on things. Not that she didn't but you know more like the big the big winner for Trump
- 4:04was the economy and also the immigration situation we have at the border and I think that if she
- 4:15really put her foot down and made her opinion very clear made her stance very clear what she was
- 4:21going to do very clear and set it in a way that obviously differed from current president Biden
- 4:30because he's one of our most unfavored president we've had in a very very long time. People do
- 4:37not like him and I don't think she strayed far enough away from him. I think people were worried
- 4:43that it was kind of going to be another repeat and they were ready to mix it up and I think those
- 4:50three things were kind of the biggest giveaways of her election. It was her race to lose as Ryan
- 4:58loves to say and she did lose it. Yeah and I do believe it was her race to lose. I mean if she
- 5:05came public opinion when she first came into the race was extremely malleable. Very. She had was
- 5:15negative 18 percentage points favorability wise which is two times worse than Trump was before
- 5:20she was nominated and it flipped to almost a plus one or two as it stands on a few of the averages
- 5:28right now. That just just signals the incredible like form that she could take on. She could go
- 5:37in a lot of different ways because American people weren't as informed on her as they were on Trump.
- 5:41Trump for all intents and purposes information wise is an incumbent. He had everybody knows who
- 5:47he is. Everybody knows his most of his policies and his name recognition is even better than
- 5:53some candidates who are in office right now. And that's just a product of you know the world that
- 6:02Trump has kind of made inherited. And that you know it certainly contributes to the fact of the
- 6:11narrative being that Harris lost the race. I mean if you look at the polling averages she had a
- 6:1665 percent chance to win this race for a pretty good time. A few weeks and she's always been
- 6:21favored up until the last week and Trump he manages to pull off some pretty pretty interesting stuff
- 6:27in the in the last week of every every campaign that he's participated in. And we'll talk about
- 6:34some systemic stuff later. But it was just quite quite an incredible race because I think I think
- 6:42if she had I mean obviously they've looked at it and they've seen the generic Democratic candidates
- 6:49pull much further ahead in in electoral college scenarios and popular vote scenarios
- 6:55than Donald Trump does. And I think her being able to shape her reputation if she could have got that
- 7:02generic Democrat and Trump really tried to paint her as the liberal extremist which I think he did
- 7:07a bit of a good job at I think she could have won the race and I think that's kind of what
- 7:11it comes down to. Okay so now we're going to move into the Senate and House elections. So I think
- 7:20Luchana can talk about the Senate. Okay so the Republicans won the Senate 52 to 46. Most of the
- 7:32predicted states went blue such as Washington, California, Michigan, Wisconsin, well I guess
- 7:40Michigan and Wisconsin obviously weren't as guaranteed because they went red in the election
- 7:48but before they've kind of been considered the blue wall so people were sort of expecting them
- 7:53to win. Then obviously like New York and the expected ones also went red like Texas, Florida,
- 8:02Mississippi and then the big flip states were West Virginia, Ohio, and Montana. So that was kind of
- 8:14what changed things. The Republicans flipped three seats which is kind of what helped them to win.
- 8:25Also the Democrats had 28 seats that were not up for election and the Republicans had
- 8:3138 just to give some context to that. The most competitive states were Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin
- 8:42for the Democrats and then for the Republicans, Ohio, Texas, Nebraska, Montana, and Florida. So
- 8:49the Democrats did not get all of the seats that they needed to flip it but the Republicans
- 8:55got more than they needed. And then if we look over at the House election, that's actually still
- 9:02going on. It's going to take quite some time for certain states. Currently the Democrats have lost
- 9:10two seats. They have 200 and the Republican party has gained the two seats and have 212.
- 9:19You need 218 for majority so it is looking as though it will go to the Republicans. Obviously
- 9:27California is still going, Washington, Oregon, Maine, Arizona, Alaska, and Iowa.
- 9:37So oh and Louisiana and a couple other states but the main ones here we see Arizona going
- 9:45to more towards the Republican party. Same with Alaska, same with two it looks like districts
- 9:55or like representative sections in Washington and Iowa is just waiting to finish counting theirs
- 10:04but that is also going to go to the Republican party. So it looks as though we will have both
- 10:10parts of Congress being controlled by the Republicans. So what does this kind of mean? So
- 10:19basically, we've talked about this before but I'm going to mention again because I think it's
- 10:22really important. Our government runs on a system of checks and balances. Each branch has things
- 10:29that they are allowed to do and things that they aren't allowed to do. So the
- 10:33legislative branch is allowed to make the laws, the executive branch is allowed to enforce the
- 10:39laws, and the judicial branch is allowed to deem those laws unconstitutional. That's how it works.
- 10:45The judicial branch can't make laws. They can only deem them unconstitutional. The legislative
- 10:52branch can only make laws. They can't deem the laws unconstitutional. They have a power that
- 10:58the judicial branch doesn't have. The judicial branch has a power they don't have. So since
- 11:05we are going to have a Republican president, our Congress is going to be Republican and obviously
- 11:13our Supreme Court is supposed to be unbiased when it comes to picking a political side. However,
- 11:19there is a majority that have been
- 11:22appointed by Republican presidents. So we also see the two oldest justices, the Chief Justice,
- 11:30Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. So these are the two oldest members and they will retire under
- 11:39Trump so that they can ensure that their spot will be taken up or they should. I don't know
- 11:47what they will do, but they should retire under Trump if they want to keep that 6-3 split that we
- 11:52see in the House. The way to continue that is if when they retire or leave the court, they then get
- 12:03replaced by someone appointed by a Republican president keeping the 6-3 split. Like I said,
- 12:12twice now. Sorry. But why is this so important? Is the argument that any legislation could in
- 12:20theory be passed and deemed constitutional. So without a system of checks and balances,
- 12:27this idea that you could basically just become a dictator is very present. Holy cannoli. I cannot
- 12:34speak right now. It's very present. But it's not a system that you can just take and just take.
- 12:40Now it's very present. However, there are a lot of people that identify as Republican that don't
- 12:46identify with Trump's MAGA beliefs. So we will obviously see pushback. Things that he has said
- 12:52he wants to do like get rid of the Board of Education won't happen. There are not enough
- 12:57people who agree with that stance. Now there is obviously some smaller pieces of legislation that
- 13:03will have an easier time getting through all, well I guess the two branches of government and then if
- 13:10it gets challenged it would have an easier time being deemed constitutional. This would be
- 13:14legislation such as Trump's plan to enforce tariffs on goods coming into the U.S. and like minor,
- 13:23not minor, but minor legislation like that. Legislation that won't really change the way
- 13:28that our government is working. It'll just change certain things that all presidents are changing. So
- 13:34he will just have an easier time and less pushback on or less revisions on those laws. So another
- 13:40thing this brings up is Project 2025. So we did a episode on this a while back but it's basically
- 13:49a kind of plan written by very conservative people for what the next Republican presidency
- 13:55should look like. So it includes things like not teaching critical race theory. It teaches things like...
- 14:06The whole thing is to bring back traditional and I say that in quotations here. Family values. Yes.
- 14:14The man woman, two kids, goes to church every Sunday. White picket fence. Yes, very white, yes, very white
- 14:22picket fence family. The whole thing is to bring that back. This was written by people that are very
- 14:30prevalent in the Republican party. It's written by people who used to be on his staff. They're
- 14:35written by people that are currently on his staff. So back to what Luchano was saying. So I think
- 14:42before people were saying like, I don't know if that could really happen because surely there
- 14:49would be some group that contests that surely it would be the Supreme Court that says no we can't
- 14:54do that or the House or the Senate that says no we can't do that. But now that... Pardon me, all of
- 15:01these places are controlled by Republican groups. Theoretically it could happen and I'm obviously
- 15:07not saying that every Republican likes this idea. Of course that not every Republican does. Even
- 15:13the soon-to-be president Trump said himself like, I don't agree with this. But it's just the idea
- 15:20that it could happen now because all three branches are controlled by the conservatives.
- 15:27Yeah and obviously this argument can be made with... I mean Obama had the same thing and I don't
- 15:35remember which of his terms but in one of them where he controlled all three branches or the
- 15:40Democratic party controlled all three branches and he didn't actually get to pass everything he
- 15:46wanted to because of pushback. So we will see pushback obviously and we're not saying we won't.
- 15:51We are mainly just pointing out the fact that there will be less amounts of checks amounts and
- 15:57also kind of restating something that we brought up a couple episodes ago on why it is super
- 16:05important to understand exactly the effects of your vote. Not only what the person you're voting
- 16:12in, the president or the representative that you're voting in, what they want to do but also how
- 16:18that will affect the overall government system that we have in place. All right so some of the
- 16:27roundtable stuff that we're going to talk about especially post-election is going to be coming
- 16:31from exit polls. A quick little thing is that the exit polls you see online there's two different
- 16:36types of them. There's exit polls that came out right after the election. I prefer if you don't
- 16:40look at those there's weighted exit polls they factor in demographic stuff it's much more reliable
- 16:44and interesting. We will link the ones that we're using into the post. Yeah we will obviously we'll
- 16:49link the Washington Post one. We might use some New York Times ones later but most likely we're
- 16:54going to use the Washington Post one because it was the most recent and they have some pretty
- 16:57good cross tabs and stuff. The first thing I want to talk about was Trump's over performing with
- 17:03Hispanic and Latino voters. He received a 46% of the vote share to Harris's 52%. These don't
- 17:09necessarily add up to 100 because there's third party and they do rounding and it's kind of very
- 17:14complicated but he really overperformed with Latinos. Elle why do you think Trump over
- 17:20performed with the Latino population especially in more southern Sunbelt states? Yeah honestly
- 17:25I'm not 100% sure. I personally like from what I've heard him and his party say recently obviously
- 17:36not in the past and not how it's gone recently about that specific group of people. If I was
- 17:43a part of that group I don't think I would necessarily want to vote for that person but
- 17:46I think a big part that plays into it is things like bringing trying to bring American labor
- 17:52back into the U.S. I think with the tariffs obviously we're seeing him we're seeing Trump
- 17:57enforce these tariffs or says he wants to enforce them so that we can bring manufacturing back into
- 18:03the U.S. and this will open up a bunch of manufacturing jobs which is really great for people who
- 18:10are doing other types of jobs that may be less more menial. Yeah more menial and I think
- 18:17that is a big reason why he overperformed in that group. How about you? Right Lucharna do you want to go or do you want me to talk about it?
- 18:25I agree with what Elle said. I honestly don't know I honestly like can't understand why people would do that if
- 18:34their group is being criticized but I think Elle's points do make sense. Yeah and we see it all the
- 18:40time like it's less I think people are caring less more about what the person is saying more what the
- 18:47person is going to be doing and I think especially when their things are not being said about you
- 18:54as three privileged people that are white in America we don't really have things that are
- 19:02harming us in words so I think it's kind of hard to know how these people would be reacting when you
- 19:08have nothing to go off. I totally agree with that and I think there's there's two other things they
- 19:13kind of both hit on them that contributed to you know the the Latino turnout that was quite good
- 19:19for Trump as I said especially in some belt states Texas Georgia places like that and that's you know
- 19:25a lot of people thought that Trump's anti-immigrant you know sort of rhetoric you know costs him a lot
- 19:31of the Latino vote but a lot and from what I've been seeing in a few interviews actually is that
- 19:36there's a mentality among especially among the people who are voting the legal immigrants
- 19:41especially coming from you know more southern countries is there's an us versus them that they
- 19:45think that they because they immigrated legally they don't necessarily believe that you should
- 19:51be able to to cross the border illegally and then immediately get citizenship because they worked
- 19:55for it and that that's kind of what I've been seeing in a few interviews but there's a general
- 19:59thing that we're going to kind of be referencing a lot in this in this little portion and that's
- 20:03inflation and prices and cost of living and that determined it for almost every group. If you look
- 20:10at the cross tabs and you look at the people who are concerned about certain stuff economy rocked
- 20:16the charts. Democracy came in I think a close second and a lot of them immigration came in
- 20:22third or fourth in most of them but the economy trumps everything and Trump trumps Kamala on the
- 20:29economy in most polls so that's going to kind of bring us do you guys have any like interesting
- 20:34demographics you want to talk about particularly? Yeah so I want to talk about gender so we saw
- 20:41Trump do better with male voters he got 55 percent of the male vote and Harris got 42 percent but she
- 20:49did about the flip with women so she got 53 percent of the female vote and he got 45 percent.
- 20:57Obviously when you like break it down into ethnic groups she did significantly better with
- 21:05people identifying as black females he did better with people identifying as white males
- 21:11it kind of goes down to obviously how they care about the policy but also people vote for the
- 21:18person that they kind of relate to more how they can kind of see themselves relating to more so a
- 21:23white male is more likely to vote for a white male president solely because they see themselves
- 21:29within that group versus a black woman is more likely to vote for another black woman it's just
- 21:36how things like that work in society. Yeah totally agree with that and I think especially with the
- 21:42woman vote I think the Democrats their fatal error was thinking too much they they dreamt too
- 21:48much about the 2022 midterms where abortion ruled the ballot and women turned out because women are
- 21:54typically more civilly engaged but in this election the woman versus men turnout wasn't as
- 22:01egregious as it was in 2022 and women really didn't they voted a split ticket on some issues in some
- 22:08states for referendums but if you look at say a place in Arizona that has really been a contentious
- 22:15spot for abortion Trump got 50 percent of the woman vote compared to Harris's 49 percent
- 22:20so you're looking at a place in which more women voted for Trump than Harris that's rare to ever
- 22:28be seen in any state let alone a swing state so that's just I think a product of the fact that
- 22:33Democrats bank too much on abortion I think there are a lot of women who sympathize with the abortion
- 22:37message but I think when it comes down to prices and inflation and other things that are going to
- 22:43be the main focus of the conversation I think sometimes that shows precedence over the abortion
- 22:51issue and I think Democrats this is their little awakening to that reality for them and I think
- 22:57in upcoming elections you know the 2026 midterms there's going to be much maybe less of a full
- 23:04campaign made on abortion rights so Luchana I think she has a topic that she really wants to talk
- 23:10about sorry just to kind of chime in before she gets that because it ties in we were looking at
- 23:17the religions of past presidents and they've already updated the Wikipedia page with Trump
- 23:23being the 45th and 47th president and both of his new terms that's very interesting they work fast
- 23:27over at Wikipedia go donate if you haven't yet do you donate to Wikipedia L okay so our topic now
- 23:36is religion so starting off with Catholic voters they voted 40% for Kamala and around 60% for Trump
- 23:51they make up 22% of voters so quite a nice big chunk there people tend to vote for a candidate
- 23:59that shares values of their religion so soon-to-be president Trump is a Protestant Christian so I
- 24:06think the Catholics could definitely relate to him sharing their values of Christianity and then
- 24:12the Protestants voted 36% for Kamala and 63% for Trump so again I think they could really
- 24:20see themselves sharing those values and for a lot of people for whom religion is a big part of their
- 24:25life they think that it's like a good quality for a person to have so I think that might have been
- 24:30an important factor for some people and oh sorry yeah they made up 42% of the vote so that was a
- 24:37super big chunk and a super probably a really important group to kind of do good in when it
- 24:44comes to the religious breakdown I will also say that the black Protestants or evangelicals
- 24:52tended to vote very heavily towards Kamala which I think is something she kind of leaned into
- 24:57talking about like her faith a bit during this election but it was not enough yeah and also in
- 25:04the exit polls that we're looking at none is an option so this is not people who this is like all
- 25:12voters because none is an option so if they believe in a higher power or they're part of a faith
- 25:20or they don't that's an option too and then next we have people who are Jewish so they only make
- 25:29up 2% of the vote but they voted overwhelmingly for Kamala with 78% voting for her and 22% voting
- 25:39for Trump now they are the only group that we have on here that just doesn't have any margin
- 25:45for other the war we see in Gaza right now definitely played a part in affecting how this
- 25:54group voted so I think a lot of people liked the idea of someone who would be giving aid to people
- 26:00and then people who identify as other religions so Muslim, Hindu, whatever they identify as
- 26:08voted 60% for Kamala, 7% for an other which is the largest group that we have
- 26:18voting for a third party yes thank you Ryan and 34% for Trump I think this could also have something
- 26:25to do with the war in Gaza a lot of people that identify as other I think could definitely
- 26:30identify as Islam or Muslim as people could identify as Muslim a part of the Islam faith
- 26:36which is very prevalent religion and they could want a candidate that is willing to support
- 26:42Palestine more and then people who don't identify as a religion make up 25% and they voted 70% for
- 26:50Kamala and 26% for Trump all right like usual there's some polling stuff mainly we're going to
- 27:00look at it in retrospect look at what the models said look at what the polls said and see how
- 27:06accurate they were because a lot of this podcast up until this point hadn't been us reporting and
- 27:10analyzing and looking at the polls and we just want to tell you guys kind of what we see from
- 27:16the polls now after the election and just kind of stuff surrounding that and a few other things
- 27:22that I'll get to at the end first of all a little quick fun fact the 538 model which I used personally
- 27:29a lot and they used most of the time the most likely outcome of their few thousand outcomes they
- 27:37ran was the outcome that happened with Harris at 226 this was just a bit more likely than a
- 27:47Harris full sweep which would end Trump at 226 obviously I'm talking about electoral votes but
- 27:52I just thought this was a fun fact because it shows how accurate these models are at predicting
- 27:57elections however like usual I'm not sure how it happens every year or every election cycle
- 28:07but Trump managed to get some systemic polling error this year was around four points a nationally
- 28:14popular vote it's been like that for Trump all three presidential election years that he's had
- 28:20been on the ballot the polls significantly underestimated him in 2016 the polls pretty
- 28:28good underestimated him 2020 and they significantly underestimated him this year again nationally and
- 28:37in state and municipality level he looks like he's exceeding the projected by around 4.5 points which
- 28:45is around what the polling error is and that kind of the reason those the 538 model was so
- 28:52hell-bent on those two outcomes being very likely was actually because of the fact and this is what
- 28:58a lot of reporting actually said before election it was very likely to be a sweep by either one
- 29:03candidate because if there was a just a bit of systemic polling error because the states were
- 29:07so close it could have tipped the election the scale of the election so heavily one can that
- 29:15it could have been a full sweep obviously there were tons of scenarios in which that would have
- 29:19never happened but they were considering it secondly quick victory lap no i'm just kidding
- 29:26but i was right and seltzer's poll leading up to the election usually she has some outlier polls
- 29:32um coming up before the election but not to be uh trump won iowa handedly i thought there were
- 29:39demographic errors as i just compared uh cross tabs and the anselster poll didn't line up perfectly
- 29:46like i thought but um you know you can't rely on one poll you can't rely on that it won't remember
- 29:53one poll unless it's a very high quality pollster like cnn new york times stuff like that um i
- 30:00wouldn't put much weight on them right now future elections midterms whatever it is uh just because
- 30:07of the fact that just a bit of sampling error uh could mean a few points in either direction which
- 30:13is what happened in the anselster poll obviously this happens in a lot of polls hers are just more
- 30:18notable um and that's kind of going to wrap up just a quick overview on what happened to the polling
- 30:24there was a bit of systemic pointer under sampling of trump voters um maybe some people
- 30:30saying that they were gonna vote for harris the vote over trump maybe because somebody was in
- 30:33vicinity obviously there's a multitude of reasons why you can attribute it and the last thing i do
- 30:39want to talk about was about the markets um there's been some funny reactions soybean markets have
- 30:45gone significantly down i'll explain that in just a second stock market uh is reaching record highs
- 30:51bitcoin reaching record highs and i'll talk about that in just a second but uh quite quite uh
- 30:57volatility in the market this week and just to kind of start with bitcoin trump has said he's
- 31:02going to be the most crypto president ever um you know take that for what you will but the bitcoin
- 31:09people really love it and it has exceeded um it's all time high this week i'm pretty sure stock
- 31:15market has hit time highs in a lot of segments um and well i'll talk about soybean futures later
- 31:22i can't wait to get to those but um first got to talk about the bitcoin um trump has promised and
- 31:29i'm quoting he'll be the most uh crypto friendly president on earth and that he will bring crypto
- 31:36back to the united states um bitcoin people apparently love this uh the stock has a gun
- 31:43you should have seen it on on election night it was just going higher and higher as the chance of
- 31:47trump's win went higher and higher um as you see that you're also looking at the stock market
- 31:55uh in correlation to trump's win probability obviously trump and the conservative and republican
- 32:01agenda in the united states favors deregulation um this is not new to the united states this has
- 32:07been like it for a while um obviously the banks jumped quite a bit because of deregulation especially
- 32:15from stuff from the 2008 financial crisis uh was one of the key things that he you know he started
- 32:21deregulating his first term and most likely will will continue to in a second but to hit on what i
- 32:27think is one of the most fun things um soybean futures have dropped through the floor um not
- 32:36fully but they have certainly lost a lot of their uh value uh this is mainly due towards you know
- 32:43trump he's saying 10 20 percent tariffs on all goods coming into united states obviously soybeans
- 32:49are a big big export in the united states if you've ever gone on a road trip you see corn fields and
- 32:54soybean fields uh that's pretty much it pretty boring uh but it is a lot of money you are seeing
- 33:00in front of your eyes and a lot of that goes to china eventually and if we put 10 20 percent
- 33:05shares in china along with additional stuff because of the you know anti-chinese or anti-ccp
- 33:12sentiment about regarding trading in the trump administration you can easily see a trade war um
- 33:18and the soybeans would become part of that it's just kind of a cool thing the futures dropped a
- 33:22lot and it just shows kind of how much the presidency can affect the different parts of
- 33:29markets even as far as soybeans and other crops in the united states um that's going to end off
- 33:35this episode we got the outro stuff like that uh thanks for tuning in we hope you have a great day
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