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How Chef Geech Is Revolutionizing Sports Entertainment - Ep. 163 w/ Chef Geech · Black Fridays: Business Growth for Entrepreneurs, Creators & Professionals

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we made that first NFL recap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when I knew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, because we made it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one went viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we made the second one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one kind of went viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we wasn't like, we wasn't like, gun call like, oh, this is what we about to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just were still doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that third one went super viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, all right, we about to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then my man's, I never get out with Chia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always tell the story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was chilling with my homie fresh, who's a big entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You saw him up here too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had my homie fresh, and he was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know the NFL gonna reach out to you one day and ESPN it was only three weeks in I'm like right now that you ain't that crazy and I mean NFL reached out like week 10 week 11 and I was like yeah, we got some
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[SPEAKER_00]: What up Bill Black Friday's family, welcome back to another episode of Black Friday's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What family friends, the loved ones say when keep this thing going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now that we got that out of the way, I got one of the dopest creatives that has come out of the city detroit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let alone the state of Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chef Geets is in the building, how you doing my brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brother, what up, though?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have it to be here, a pleasure to be here, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pleasure to have you and been the fan of your content for quite some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's probably been like maybe close to a couple of years that I've been following the page and following your movement and talk about millions of views, hundreds of thousands of followers, you got dope partnerships across the board and in a failed network, got transferred with the male heel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also revoked TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me, how does it feel to be able to have these type of opportunities from crafting out your own lane in terms of sports and entertainment?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel good, all glory be to God first and foremost, my Lord has saved you Jesus Christ because he gave me the ability to do whatever I got to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you gotta say that first and foremost, but it's just like, it's good, it feels good to know that something you've been knowing, your whole life is like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'm not tripping, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's true, like I am as creative as I always thought I was as a kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My ideas do work because you go through human experiences and self-doubt and you go through human experiences of is it really me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like why me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then you'd be like, well, why not me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just actually seeing the kind of fruition through the last thing I wanted to add to that too
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[SPEAKER_02]: other people you get a lot of people that that turn you down or a lot of people that say your ideas ain't up or a lot of people that just don't understand and then you get in these these wrongs with these people and then they like oh where you've been in my whole life you know and it just be like that all right so it's a wonderful feeling man I'm I thank God that I'm in this situation
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it would take care of my family and provide some, and turn it into what I always wanted was just to create all day, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in terms of being able to craft out your own lane from doing, if you are not familiar with Chef Geeton's content, he has the most fire, sports weekly recaps, especially when it comes to NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, always starting with the home team, but then being able to do,
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[SPEAKER_00]: across the board for the league and then being able to combine hip hop and then also culinary skills to be able to kind of tell those stories is super dope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how did all those things come together to be able to carve out that niche in terms of doing those those recaps and telling the stories the way that chef Geese does it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I grew up cooking my whole life as a little boy I always said I wanted to be a chef when I grew up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two things I wanted to be when I grew up was a chef in the
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[SPEAKER_02]: three things, I wanted to be a comedian and a chef and a rapper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The comedian got cut out quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was just, I wanted to be a chef and a rapper ended up going to culinary school, followed that dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, then really enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like being in the kitchen, but it wasn't my passion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rap has always been my passion music is all you've been my passion is all you've been something I just knew how to do So I dropped out of college and pursue the rap career and but I still had to work at job So I was working at various restaurants here in there and Then my rap portfolio started building up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I started getting the name for myself in music and I was like, man I want to um
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I didn't want to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was like, you need to incorporate the music in the culinary together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I don't want to put the two together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even want people to know I could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I kept it low key.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then my rap name was Geetton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was like, but it was taken legally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So everybody was like, what you're going to change on the end, too?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, no, there's like, you should just do Chef Geet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I kept sanding on songs like Chef Geet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chef Geet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of was how we kind of the sea got planted as far as like the culinary end of music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the sports thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just us trial and error trying to figure out how we could step have our foot in the ground when it comes to viral content and like getting people to attention and let like The world is all over saturated right now a content especially in the music world is like how do we stand out and then my brother Roger who shoots most of my recaps He was like Her butt in the field and I was like No, that's kind of like corny and he was like all right, and then I just bit the bullet and I was like all right
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we kind of like, stuck here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I've always loved sports, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I played all sports in high school, I played basketball, football, golf, bowling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was a big sports guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My dad watched all the sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we just kind of, honestly, this year is the first year where we kind of incorporated the culinary part of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because Roger is big in the culinary spaces as far as a DP.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's like, I want you to tap into this world that you know how to do, but you kind of sign away from it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now we incorporate in the culinary, the rap, and the music, and it just fit perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the day we love fool, we love music, and we love sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's especially black culture, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell people I'm a walking sportsman, that's the best way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A walking sportsman, I love that analogy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And first and geets tell us about your platform that you have been able to develop that allows you to do exactly that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so first and geets is the actual recap show recap in all of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was about to turn into just sports in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's me recapping the NFL and talking about what happened in the NFL this whole week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we try to navigate it to just what happened in sports for the week because it's something happened in sports in general And like I said I watch all of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it started off with me and Roger like I said him saying you know Try to wrap about the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did and then we put a title on it first in geets and Yeah, that's where we at we're there right now, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like that's my that's my bread and butter right there That's my baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my soul
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[SPEAKER_02]: and hopefully it turns into something bigger because the complete vision for it is for it to be where I have special guests on there, which is how to mail in and up on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted a near future for it to be a special guest every week, wrapping with me because I used to go straight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can wrapping your voice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we talk about, we don't even know elephants in the wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talk about whatever's going on, and your personal life that might tie in and make it witty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, and that's just what we do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like Jamil was a San Francisco fans, so that's why I incorporated her in there and she from the deep right so shame on her, but yeah, so it was just like it got to make sense too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I always would in the near future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just see it being like, you know, not like this because
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's two different lanes, but you know, people want to get on costs and not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People want to get on there and be part of the stream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want people to want to get on first and get and we write the rap together, or I write the whole rap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it turns into this thing where we got Kevin Hart on here on the broad James on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this week I got this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jason Tate on Sidney, Swenney, whoever you know is saying that we rapping about sports together because who don't happen a car with their homeboys and be like turning to beat all in freestyle, at some point in their life, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to bring that childhood experience or even the dog who people still do it to this day and bring it to life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what was it like having an opportunity to work with Jamel?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how did that all come together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How Jamel did to go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And her husband, that's my dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So would have restarted to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just was rocking on my content.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we started building a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I told him I was like, I need Jamel, first thing he's because I already been had division for what I wanted to look like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was telling him like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: her episode is going to be kind of like the pilot like I want to show networks like this is what it's going to look like from now on and that was the first episode we did it at a desk like a sports center like set up so I was like yeah he was like bad she love it let's do it and we was supposed to do it
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[SPEAKER_02]: that year that we played the 49ers in the NFC championship, but her schedule was busy and we couldn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, we're going to probably play all next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just aim for next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she came through in the clubs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate her so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she still look out to this day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She always trying to put my names and wrongs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just always looking out so I appreciate her to the death of Chuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's loved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we're supposed to do it in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See you see you up in the middle of the summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for real love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so Chef Geesh, now I'm an institution of my favorite part of Black Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's with free style Fridays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, you the chef, you got the bars, you the rapper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got this wonderful content, you're wrapping weekly so we can we get a freestyle like what what what what we're doing A freestyle you can do portrait you can sing you can dance however the mood strikes you, but I could dance a freestyle I'm trying to think uh
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see for a second that you put me on the spot with that one or you can do rapping My question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you want to freak out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, it's up to you Rapid fire questions cuz I was you don't have a rapper up here What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I'd have people right now rappers that have freestyling I have I have something you do a freestyle segment of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, regardless if it's a rapper or not Exactly because how I allow people of the opponent people have sung people have
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[SPEAKER_00]: rap to other rappers rappers have not wrapped in and did just the rapper fire questions so it's it's all up to you but I however you wait whatever the mood strikes I want to rap but I'm just trying to think I have it if I don't spot the rap in so long I don't kind of think of rare roles why silly so I don't let me
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[SPEAKER_02]: We think for a second, we might have to come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right, we come back because I got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to think of what I'm gonna say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, all right, I wanted to fit the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got stuff to fit the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got to think of something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we do a rapper for our questions in the meantime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so you said that you played ball growing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me when you played football, what position did you play?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cornerback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who would you like in your game, too?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was the biggest I ever been on my life right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was the little is kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was the small, scrawny kid in high school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I was saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Way under the middle of being all my friends, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But all the thing I could do on the field was hate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I was the little everybody knew me just like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You bring the pain broken hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just he just run for us being and just why you know Somebody can't cover a Blanky You know I said stop getting moist every way because he too small, but yeah, that was just my thing They put me on special teams too like yeah, you could hit too such and hit
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then on corner, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna put you in on a run place, and that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and so yeah, I probably, I ain't got nobody to make my game on that, I was trash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My main sport was, my main sport growing up was bullet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was my thing, like I used to go on and be an intern and miss across the country and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was my thing, crazy enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Most people wouldn't think that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you still get out there and both?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I hop out on that line every night and it's not like I used to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to get back on there more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to look off a lot more too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I rather be on that golf course than in that ball of the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were GM for the line for a day, if you had brought home for 24 hours, what's the first move that you make it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you picked the right data say that first move I'm making is
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I don't want to say and let me just say this before I say what I'm I'm not to say I love my quarterback Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have nothing against my quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Me and my quarterback are actually friends I'm JGC me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nothing below.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see JG is nothing below.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad I didn't get some I think one of our biggest problems in our organization is
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't treat it like a business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's too buddy buddy, it's too, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You better say one, we gonna rock with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We gonna put this together and then it starts messing up our plans at the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I say all that to say this, if I'm Brad Holmes, first thing I'm doing as a GM, I'm trading my first round pick this year, my first round pick next year in Jericho, for Joe Burrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a hell of a move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now watch your burgers specifically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He the only, he the best one out there that's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He the best one out there that's available.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody else about to leave?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the top tier quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lamar not about to go nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Patch him off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not about to go nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to find a good quarterback in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not about to have a position in the draft to get a good quarterback no time song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not really because JG isn't the quarterback to win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that what I see, especially last guy, he could have worked right in the end song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Kable, we don't got that skill set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a day in the impossible to win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's lead without a mobile quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been riding with Jay-Z this whole time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it sound like nothing against him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speck him number.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you think about the overall that nothing's up to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm thinking about down a line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two is like Joe Burrow, 29, 28.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, golf ain't too far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think golf is like, I mean, I'm starting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A few years older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think like 33, 32, but yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we need, I think we need to shake some stuff up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that and then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only other thing I would say is, my next 20 draft picks, no exaggeration is all defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even looking at a difference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not me for real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a draft foot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I probably drive a center and a tackle at some point and it's all defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All defense rounds one, two, say, well, my one is going to be gone now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Round two, two, six and I say, that's it, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a little about it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would I would combat that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say that I don't think JG is the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Just even though like he's more so of a throwback quarterback in those things because he's been he's shown that he's capable at different points in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to retool the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Taylor Decker, I don't know if it's time for him to retire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's time for him to get a change of scenery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Realistically, he'll probably retire on lying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that time is here now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to figure out our center situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we really got to retool that whole offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think it's starting to crumble there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, I think that if you're going to trade somebody and try to get
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[SPEAKER_00]: value, I would hate to see him go, but Montgomery, I think that just because the way that they using him, if you're just going to use him, it's kind of like every so often, you're not really playing him as much as you having that dual threat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you used to, I mean, it's a lot of other running backs in the league that you can get the feel that role or draft somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that he still has a lot of upside and he could be somebody's number one right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Deep like you said defense we got a draft defense of players and I don't know what's going on with the second there It just has not worked out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about Kim Sutton you think about DJ Reed is not looking good this year I was a big and I just saw him play last night I forgot his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked like fake nipsy He was our quarterback last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's his name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played for the Patriots now
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll concentrate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carlton Davis, I was a Carlton Davis fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he won the most healthy, but Carlton Davis, he brought an edge when he was playing for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like he played well against like the other team ones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, the quarterback situation, DB situation is not worked out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We not go have BB for another year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell him it's about to be going on with Kirby Joseph.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we got it really tightened up that secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like the rest of the in that line, also the middle of our line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to figure that out because
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they haven't been they haven't been delivered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, and all I know you want to carry on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that my problem with the JG thing is that I don't want
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to quarterback where everything got to be perfect for everything to work out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The quarterback position is the main position and the football field is the decision making position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that means that it's deeper than just throwing a ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When stuff breaks down, how is you going to break out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it break down, it ain't no breaking out for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Burrell, if you're breakdown, we're the same thing.
18:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I make something out of nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Josh Allen is the epitome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're breakdown, I'm going to make something out of nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Lamar Jackson, Patrick, well, these are the top four quarterbacks in the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When there's nothing, even you can name quarterbacks, there's not even deck every quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's sprakes down, I got the ability to make something out of nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our quarterback don't got it's a zero ability.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it break down, it's over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to the ground or that ball going to the ground.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got what you said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you there's a rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he could grow and get better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My high guinea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like my high guinea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably my favorite one out the group.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, of course, I love Decker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like you said, it's time is coming to an end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think tank is coming back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still young enough to play another two three years and we can get tank back that'll be lovely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, our defense secondary, we said it kept crossing day was we said a paddling the money he asked for because the
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[SPEAKER_02]: the the swap out for DJ read it wasn't a good payoff you know the cheaper bag for the smaller corner that's not you know and DJ replay good at the beginning of the season once you go back from the injury is given one down right so that um T.A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not as bad on T.A.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: as everybody else is I agree I give him like one more year
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think he, he, uh, CB2 on any team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, I'm going to go to CB2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm mad at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he get the penalties, but he is CB2.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Kirby, God bless him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope everything work out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not looking good, but, you know, that's that, uh, BB, like you said, he's probably not even going to be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because we probably not going to extend our contract with nobody when it's 20 kitties, so yeah, we got a lot of we in the home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to, I will sit down with Dan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to have a talk, because the infrastructure, whatever you build in over here is breaking down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond this, beyond players' abilities or injuries or this, beyond on it, whatever you build in over here is falling apart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: flat out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell by the jobs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell by the penalties.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You like to tell by the play calling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell by the interviews.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell by the team chemistry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something is off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the same age.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even got to go to practice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something is off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something is not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the infrastructure is all off over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with the coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He need to get his stuff together and get everybody on the same page because I could tell this is a sloppy ran This is we said need to have eight wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna be straight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm what you and you right Yeah, I mean it's it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that for show All right, so we gonna we can talk sports all day, so we gonna and probably we'll talk more sports But I'm gonna keep it pushing so we can learn more about each what are you listening to right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you have in in rotation?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Teddy Pentegras.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Teddy Pentegras.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see brothers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The spanner is shot light.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm my old school year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my main music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I listen to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The 60's 70's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I say that too because rapper is just in a bad place right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It ain't R&B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I'm not listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The most rapper R&B these days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if I could really have to name something that last Freddie Gibbs album is, isn't, is somewhere in rotation and that clips album, somewhere in rotation, but that was cool album.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but yeah, I'm, I'm over a wrap right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rapids, I didn't even die in his dead, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you like rap right now, I'm like, I ain't rapin' about it, I ain't even rapin' about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three, four, five months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it in the recap, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote a rapin' about three, four, five months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so last but not least, tell me this, if you could have five dinner guests, and then of course you prepared dinner, who are the five dinner guests, and let's make these celebrities, athletes, people of status, past or present, who you invite in the dinner, if you got five seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that you, uh, you, you at the point where you probably come in and contact with a lot of these people, so let's make them people you don't know five people dead or a lot dead or a lot Jesus, okay, pot, hmm, Kobe, hmm, starting strong already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's why I'm saying these last two got to be crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got two of my hair, but I know it's not the two that I want, but it's just, I'ma just say it's just the first to kind of my hair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus' part, Kobe, Goddee Nelson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus' part, Kobe, Goddee Nelson, my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be, and what you're gonna cook?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm gonna cook like a, oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to eat a rice ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to eat a rice ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't go complicated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to eat a rice ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody grabs the chopsticks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to throw some time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever type is I want on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to saute it in some of the soy sauce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pineapple juice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brown sugar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brother today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to eat this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to eat this rice ball with this teriyaki sauce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this chicken is broccoli and bok choy and go and talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want y'all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want y'all to be able to talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking of some talking food Yeah, we got some chopsticks in our hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We sitting there eating the ball the rice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't got a mouth full of food We talking it that'd be it right there rice balls me Kobe Jesus podcast Goddard nothing My dad that we don't talk for sure whatever y'all don't have you know Jesus got you Oh my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my who you said been off about my my my my goddd Okay, okay
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, about Marley for some.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then yeah, whatever y'all need, Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus got you on the right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me this, in terms of the content creation journey and what you've been able to build as far as your platform and your business as well, when did you feel like you were on the something like, what was that moment like and then wherever you at life if you could remember that time frame repeat that question one more time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in terms of what you've been able to build your platform where you are what you have right now first and get your own personal brand and opportunity is that you've gotten one was that moment if you could think back to when you when you
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[SPEAKER_02]: as far as, like, pretending to know what I'm doing right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I might be on something like that for a minute, but I think that, yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When we did first the first episode, the first thing each, back then it was just called NFL Recap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, when we did that first, well, when me and Roger linked up,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love him the death and he the reason for all that is outside of Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he, he come up with ideas with me and we sitting in the lab all day and just think, you know, and when we first started working, we was thinking of dope content ideas, like let's shoot this content and we were shooting it and like our first three videos we ever made together when
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[SPEAKER_02]: when we did that, it just went crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because what people need to understand is viral content isn't views, it's to me, it's comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the way that I mean, no one feels content is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even care about how many views you got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some companies don't even care about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some companies do, but a lot of companies be like, what shall I interact with you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you got two, three, four million views, but you only got a hundred comments, do people really care?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it really talked about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when you got a thousand comments,
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[SPEAKER_02]: 40,000 views.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I say a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when I was seeing the comment section saying 500 comments a thousand comments 15 hundred comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, Oh, we got some, you know I'm saying it and I was like that made me look at stuff on that different tools.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, anyway, I trip over the views It's about how many people that's comment and what am I am I saying something to make people want to comment, you know So and they help me figure out this whole
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[SPEAKER_02]: social media world and like what ticks, what make people tick, what make people comment, what make people say stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but yeah, we made that first and it very careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when I knew I was like, because we made it that we went viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we made the second one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one kind of went viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we wasn't like, we wasn't like, gone call like, oh, this is what we about to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just were still doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that third one went super viral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, all right, we about to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My man's, I never forget I was just, I always tell the story, I was chilling with my homie fresh, who's a big entrepreneur, you saw him up here too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had my homie fresh, and he was like, you know, the NFL gonna reach out to you one day, and ESPN, it was only three weeks in him, I'm like, probably not at night, like, you know, ain't that crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, NFL reached out like week 10, week 11, and I was like, yeah, we got some, I'm stuck on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, yeah, when we started doing NFL recaps, that's what I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when did you or how did you start to build a business around what it is that you're doing in terms of
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[SPEAKER_00]: having opportunities come your way to get a bag from either like your own content or partnership and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you been able to kind of like develop those practices?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm beyond this with you and that's why I want to circle back to my freestyle because I think I did think I wanted to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right, better, but man, I grew up in, I didn't, I ain't gonna say I grew up in the streets, but I've been in the streets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to say before I let it in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it was mostly because I ain't no no better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it's like, it's the only way I really know to get my special grown-up where we go on from, like, this is, that's the key to life out here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No punitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like switching over from that to an entrepreneur is like, mad, different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's a completely different world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you gotta think a lot more, you gotta be on your toes a lot more, you gotta take,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the good with the bad and strategically move like with the, the hustling world, it's like, it's kind of repetition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same on Samo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You experience the same stuff over and over and you know how to maneuver through it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With this, it's like, it's so many different aspects and variations that can happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we'll always have handed me from being a great artist was my business aspect because I never wanted to trust nobody with my business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never signed a manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've had managers, I've never signed a manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have record companies, offer me record deals, never signed a record deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I used to work with a publishing company and a writing company, never signed a deal with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It still was working on to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I never wanted, I was always scared to do business and scared to do some paperwork and contracts rightfully so, you know, but I had to bite that and be like, hey bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the guy that you ain't right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta start trusting people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what business is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Business is about what you got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How can we make this work?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's put it on paper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's give my lawyer on the phone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get your lawyer on the phone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, but that was always just hard for me because I just don't trust people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I had to relinquish a lot of that trust.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's one of the main things that surfaced with me doing this as far as a business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, all right, start relinquishing something like a troll.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying in order to elevate, you always gonna have to relinquish that control.
32:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody out here that got billion dollar businesses that didn't relinquish no control.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay, anybody, you name it.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: They let that go like man, you wanna help me build my zone to the next level.
32:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta let you have some of this.
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's the main thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just relinquish that control and give us some trust over to some partners and stuff.
32:47
[UNKNOWN]: So.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: As a creative yourself, do you find it hard to be able to do that business aspect?
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I know some people are just like, let me just create and I want to do that.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't want to worry about the business stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, that's, I'm trying to figure that out right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I just want to create, you know.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm in, I'm in the, I'm in the part of my career right now where I'm, I'm trying to delegate, you know, saying to get everybody or my pieces together.
33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't gotta worry about, I gotta email this person.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta hop on this on call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to hit this brand up.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a schedule look at my calendar and make sure everything is scheduled in right So me and Rogers right now doing a delegate and it's coming together slowly, but surely But I want to get to the point where I don't got to do nothing but create But that go back to what I was just saying They cut a lot of that come with just relinquishing that control
33:36
[SPEAKER_02]: because my thing is, and I'm gonna always stand by this, if you can't do the job to the capacity, I would do the job, I'm not gonna let you do the job.
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether that's shooting, whether that's editing, whether that's scheduling, whether that's brand partnerships, whether that's even hopping on a meeting.
33:51
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not gonna be in tune with this meeting and talk to these people, like I'm gonna talk to these people, I'm not gonna let you do it.
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just doing it.
33:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is stressful.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm trying to navigate out of that stress and I just want to create that's really what I ultimately want to do.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to create.
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, how do you build your team to be able to create the content?
34:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was telling you earlier, like it's all your contents, Chris B. is dope, like edited well, done very well.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So like how did you build that team to be able to do the things that you're doing right now?
34:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, honestly it was just me and Roger for the longest.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And it still is to an extent.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But we added some people to the team shot the Mars out of the Caleb.
34:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was just, really just, prayer, first and foremost, because God know my heart, you know what I want, you know what I need in order to even build me a his relationship, people and other more like, Lord, if I, you know how busy I am, and you know how much I want to continue our relationship, but I'm so busy, give me out of this busyness.
34:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So prayer, first and foremost, for those right type of people, because the first thing I look for and build in my team is,
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we aligned and are we in alignment as far as like how you think how I think with show morals are we equally young you know saying you ain't got to be no Christian but if you is good even better but it's like how do you think how do you maneuver and then it's been some time with you like a lot of people that I brought on my team it's like what you doing today let's go to dinner and just talk I just want to know you once I know you and then I see the work and
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I need.
35:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to know you as a person.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first thing.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if we not, I don't hire a lot of people that we ain't on that and I just looked at the work and they don't work out.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So I focus on the person and then I focus on the work.
35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I focus on the work ethic.
35:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's all I need right in and there.
35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We lock the end.
35:38
[SPEAKER_02]: If we, if we aligned on that and I know you a great person, we aligned on the same week.
35:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you my goals and where I want to go with this and you like bet.
35:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We align, we yield, you got the good work, and you got the work of it, let's do this.
35:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We locked in, that's it, that's all I'm looking for.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: For the content creators out there who are interested in exploring and age dreams and age skills like you, can you talk to, or could you talk about how people can come as their best sales or how they breast-presentation when it comes to opportunities with working with large brands and in sponsorships and things like that.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, be yourself, be confident in what you make it, um, always look at other content creators, not to steal, but to get inspired, you know, saying, look at content creators that's doing what you're doing and what brands they're working with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you see them working with big brands that you will ultimately want to work with, I don't say mimic that stuff, but try to take what they're doing and incorporate all on a little bit, you know, saying swag to it.
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So always just keep looking to inspire.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: the key to creativity is empathy.
36:51
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can look at somebody's work, if you have a jealous soul work on it, fix that now, because it's not gonna work in the space.
36:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at people's stuff and get so inspired, so if people's soul talented, so dope, so amazing, and I'd be like, yo, I wanna be like that, or I wanna do that, or I like how they do that.
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: How can we do that over here?
37:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how you get it for a friend.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how you get to these big brands and reach out to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause obviously that person got something that these big brands like.
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you can kind of take what they doing and put your own little swag on it, they're gonna want you to.
37:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
37:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you study a study how they follow and got up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Study how they reach out to them.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: How they're following, when did you start seeing those?
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I remember when I met Symba?
37:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Symba, how did you go up?
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: When did it go up?
37:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I hopped on LA Leaker's freestyle, the Brian reposted it on my shot up.
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm always asking the type of questions.
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you see a content creator and you like how that stuff is, reach out to them.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them is cool that reach back.
37:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And just just follow their moves, follow their moves.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of which, can you give me the secrets on how you're content?
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So Chris, I need you to say, y'all, you.
37:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell
38:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't got a hot nothing you don't got to keep nothing everybody needs this access to this information Whatever they want to know for me you can hope you know So I'm not holding nothing back cuz I can't take it with me And I want to see everybody win cuz it's enough out here for y'all to win It's enough when I talk to these brands and they be like oh, yeah, but don't even budge on the price I'll be mass sometimes I got you to say a mo you know saying that let me know brush out here
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's out here and a reason to hold on to it one air buy only for show what has been from content creation and what you've been able to develop what has been the biggest bag or opportunity that you feel like you've seen so far.
38:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You did ask me before this interview like is it anything I'll let me see if you got to plead the fifth you got to You know what I ruined the bag.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't plead the fifth.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say I haven't seen a six-figure bag yet But it's on the way for show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the six on the way it's it's literally on the way but the most I've seen from the brand deal
39:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So far, I'm trying to think.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I hit the 50 it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was like right on the pad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably like a 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it probably got 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like one time situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be worth it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The 30 is worth it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they make me do is worth it.
39:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard work, not.
39:52
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I've worked for.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the third day man.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I can sleep.
40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I can sleep.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's tired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All I've ever been.
40:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, for sure.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to put that work in.
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
40:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Understood.
40:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So I heard in a previous interview that you did that you had moved to California some time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so as a person who lived away from Detroit for four years, close to five or somewhere with that night range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always curious for people who have moved away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what was what sparked the move and then also what have you learned so far since being where so I was in Miami for two years I did grad school down there and then I started my job after grad school I wouldn't see out on so I was there for two years and then I brought it back home to you yeah yeah okay I am so I I like telling this story
40:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I graduated high school when I went to college in Jacksonville, Florida, to the artist, to the Jacksonville.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I went to culinary school.
40:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Left Florida came back to Detroit, left Detroit again with Las Vegas.
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we ended up getting the deal with Atlantic Records, and I went from Vegas to Atlanta.
41:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, went from Atlanta back to Detroit, and now I'm in LA.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I never wanted to live in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always wanted to live as a kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My family from out the way, my parents from South Carolina, his whole family's talking about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My mom from Illinois, my whole family from P.O.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and Chicago, Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was always on the road.
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We always happen on a 90-fold going in Chicago or we happen down there on the interstate going all the way down to South Carolina.
41:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So I always was out of time, I would love to go out of time.
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It was one point I wanted to live in South Carolina, like, I just want to stay out here.
41:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we'll go back to Detroit.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And they like, you really want to leave your friends.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, yeah, I want to live out here with my cousins and my brothers and everything.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And they do almost happen.
41:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But I knew as a kid, like,
41:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Expanding my mind like I always want to be adventurous and I seeing what it I that sparks creativity.
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that as a kid subconsciously I just knew like being out here is doing something for me.
42:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's making me see stuff I never seen before experience stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never experienced before tasting food I never tasted before and it's bringing something out of me so it's like that's why I always move like when I stay in one place too long It's like
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only so much your brain gonna expand.
42:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, it's a big, it's a whole world out there.
42:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Go out there and experience it, you know?
42:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was the main thing.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I always knew that moving the different places would always spark my creativity.
42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's no coincidence that I'm a creator.
42:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I love creativity.
42:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I love sparking my creativity.
42:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I love finding things that's going to make my brain twitch.
42:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying, so yeah, moving out your comfort zone is probably the number one way.
42:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the number one way to create great content at LA and it's like,
42:58
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference between LA and Atlanta and LA and Vegas and LA and Florida because I lived in Jacksonville, Tallahassee and a little bit of Miami, that's probably okay.
43:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So the difference between LA and all those places is that it's so much, you're not going to get through it all in a year, two years, three years, you might experience all that Atlanta got the offer in two, three years and I was like, all right, I'm in Atlanta.
43:23
[SPEAKER_02]: New York and LA.
43:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you can get through everything that they got the offer in about 10 years.
43:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always something going on in LA.
43:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always, it's so many different demographics, so many ethnicities, cultures.
43:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so much stuff.
43:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love it.
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'm leaving no time soon because it's no coincidence that this is where I'm most creative.
43:46
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where my career flourished.
43:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's just being in LA just turn into a whole different person.
43:55
[SPEAKER_00]: People feel like they got to leave this rate to make something to themselves.
43:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that that's the, are you of that mindset or do you think that that's not the case and you can create wherever you are and you can build, you can build wherever you are.
44:06
[SPEAKER_02]: No, everybody different, everybody different.
44:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, it's evidence with it.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd have seen people from Detroit make a night for myself or make something happen being in Detroit.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually admire those people more than the people that leave, not trying to discriminate or say this is better than that, but I love when people can stay home.
44:22
[SPEAKER_02]: and figure out how to make homework.
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: How can I make homework as a business standpoint?
44:27
[SPEAKER_02]: How can I make homework as a creative?
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: How can I like, all the creative stuff that's going in this city right now?
44:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It make me wanna move back for real.
44:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm watching y'all grow it this.
44:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm watching y'all do stuff that when we was kids, what nobody doing this?
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: At all.
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, nobody doing this.
44:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Much creativity is black people was putting into the city right now from all aspects fashion.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: comedy, culinary, business, tech, it's crazy right now.
44:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I admire that so much like that's something that really, really hit my chest sitting at LA on my couch watching from a distance like, looking my city.
45:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So no, you don't gotta leave, especially the D, you know what I'm saying like, a lot of inspiration here.
45:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If you make it happen here, make it happen here.
45:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, uh, but
45:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Me, I'm just a, I don't want to be limited to just here.
45:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be like, I don't want to local TV show.
45:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, that's what I want to do.
45:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's like, I got a relate to all aspects of the world, you know, which is hopefully next year, and I guess I'm going to say this all out.
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully next year, I won't be minimized to just rapping about the lion's number.
45:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be rapping about
45:38
[SPEAKER_02]: all the teams.
45:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be wearing this no more.
45:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because I don't want to be people to think.
45:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's dog from Detroit.
45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That's I don't want that.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I want people to think like how they look when they look at Stephen A and I think.
45:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, he had Nick fan, we know it, but they don't look at that when they see him.
45:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They look at somebody that's unbiasedly talking about every team and what they're doing.
45:58
[UNKNOWN]: So
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: but you will be at the sweet side next to M&M though.
46:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I need to see next to it.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's the, if it's the playoff game, it's up, yeah, I'm there, I'm right there.
46:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
46:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and in terms of having an opportunity or since you've been away, have you in throught your travel start to years, have you been able to see the fabric of or or a reminisce of the culture that comes from Detroit,
46:26
[SPEAKER_00]: the black culture that we're able to put out there, whether it's artistic or just the culture in general, have you seen that in other places or do people recognize that when you go to other places?
46:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
46:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no bias like my experience living in all these different cities is that we
46:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sad that like we better than nobody like it's people out here fresher than us it's people out here Or they do stuff better than us, but we the cool kids that is country because we literally cool We chill, we lay it back.
47:00
[SPEAKER_02]: We keep it pee.
47:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We the definition of keeping the pee and you know what I'm saying?
47:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So I See I mean come on everybody not not only is everybody wearing books
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: They sang it too.
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like yep.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You should just see a Detroit thing, but we know buses a Detroit thing.
47:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Santa got credit A's on.
47:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
47:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I got bus on.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I see everybody saying that in California.
47:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I got some bus on.
47:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I got some bus on.
47:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I see that.
47:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I see the way people talk.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I see the my babies.
47:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I see I see it everywhere and people see it on us too like when I go places though, that's why I say with the cool kids at the city like, I don't want no problems with nobody.
47:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want no issues with nobody.
47:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I want everybody to have a good time.
47:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to have a good time.
47:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be my authentic self.
47:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't got none to prove to nobody.
47:50
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing about Detroit people, I all got none to prove to nobody that they for Detroit.
47:54
[SPEAKER_02]: If I do what I prove somebody is going to be survived for Detroit.
47:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We go out the country.
47:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We kick here less about trying to impress y'all We try to break we go out the country is still trying to impress Detroit You know Sam like that's all we care about so it's like They feel that though it's like dang it it comes it comes to them.
48:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It comes off as humbling Like that ain't humble
48:15
[SPEAKER_02]: probably the least thing but it's just like we just we just care about our city so much and it radiates off of y'all y'all like that y'all really is the trait like at all aspects like some people is I'm Boston but it's just off because of sports yeah I'm New York but it's just because of what fashion yeah
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: We'd be trading every aspect you could think of.
48:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just what we about.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We go out to Eden, California.
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: We first thing we say, man, and Detroit, we got to restaurant.
48:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yep.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You put some clothes on, man, Detroit.
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We got this one spot done.
48:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You used to get the, even if it's back in the day, we used to get the western names.
48:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't car hard on or the everything we do, we relate it back to Detroit.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And all these other cities, it's like a certain thing.
49:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I relate back to my city.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything we do, we don't take this Detroit off.
49:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Now where are we going?
49:06
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the fact.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you, they say you go somewhere.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Detroit people around, because yeah, we gonna find each other and then also like, I think me and my wife might have traveled like out of the country somewhere.
49:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think we might have been somewhere in the Caribbean like spotted Detroit people like immediately like, and you, you just know, it's a, it's a, it's a vibe.
49:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time, and I got a group of Detroit people I hang out with in California, you know what I'm saying?
49:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And it just happened that way.
49:31
[SPEAKER_02]: and um and then like you said it'd be blowing my mind when you go and you just get to talk for a second and they'd be like yep and I'd be like what do you think of it for Detroit or people who not even from Detroit they they noticed that they didn't been around Detroit people ain't like no you got that you got it in you yeah exactly so yeah I see it out there for so I see it everywhere hmm we everywhere for sure
49:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I say we like cockroaches, that's what they said, and they'd like they out there, you were like cockroaches.
50:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: We're in the city, we out the city.
50:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as you continue to build and grow in your creativity, are there any opportunities, people that you want to work with, brand deals, sponsors, stuff like that, that you will want to put out there, so we can see it come back in the fruition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yet you can speak on yeah definitely uh I want to see first thing he's on the major network I would love to see it on ESPN because that's what we grew up on but I don't know if everybody knows and I This is another reason I just got to give all glory to God and I think I'm so much because I'm seeing it in real time if people don't know ESPN is being combated
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[SPEAKER_02]: Netflix is starting, they sports journey.
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, prom started there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to, they're trying to battle this out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good time to be in sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do somebody in sports or do sports cops in or thinking about it, get in it now.
51:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's the one thing you want.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You want a situation where ESPN has been the top dog for as long as we know.
51:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Fox tried to combat it, it didn't work.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Netflix, auto money they got, they got Disney money.
51:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just about up there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want these companies to start saying, let's let's poke the bear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's let the big door.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, let's see if we could, you know, it's people, Netflix are ready to install ESPN anchors already, but they up coming shows that they put it together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amazon too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to be in a space right now because
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[SPEAKER_02]: They bought to be trying to find out for the next new thing to keep their station relevant, you know what I'm saying?
51:42
[SPEAKER_02]: These two stations are trying to build up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This station is trying to stay the top dog.
51:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a great time to be in sports right now.
51:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I want to see first and get you on the major network, whether that be ESPN, whether that be PROM, or that that be Netflix.
51:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be a mediator on the show as well.
51:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to necessarily be Steven A or Max Killerman or Senator Sharp.
52:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: a male, of course, but Molly Queer and being the middle, like, I like, mediate and stuff, like, hey, which you know, hold up, now you stop for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would you talk about, like, I want to be in that position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could also do see me doing some sidelines, stuff too.
52:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just want to be a jack of all trades and the sports analysts were, I really want to dive deep into that.
52:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But of course, I'm in three lanes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go over here to this, this, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: this culinary world.
52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I want my rest of my life.
52:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say we gonna get a first gig.
52:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We might get a first and gig sports bar.
52:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
52:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's mandatory.
52:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I got some guys that's opening up a sports bar shot at the punch up L. A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they gonna start a franchise with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I'm a dive into that with them.
52:53
[SPEAKER_02]: and just explore it and experience it for the first time as far as I opened it up some stuff.
52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I might consider opening up a first and geese sports bar.
53:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's mandatory to make a first and geese sports bar.
53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So as far as the culinary side that, but I definitely just wanted to just expand my uh, I want to be able to travel to the world.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: and evil and get paid for it.
53:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
53:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to see that happen and then then as far as the music goes, I want to find a group of people, not just rappers, fans.
53:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to find a group of people that want to bring hip-hop back.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
53:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's last on my list though.
53:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wanna find a group of people that want to bring hip-hop back and bring it back to a point where we sell
53:44
[SPEAKER_02]: but we wrap in with some structure.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We wrap in with some substance.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So I definitely want to dive into that and try to find a way that we can, without labels, just some business partner, just where it's me, artists, anars, people in marketing, no labels, nothing, no label, nothing.
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: This is all independent, but a big, big, independent movement that feel like a label.
54:09
[SPEAKER_02]: We sell in auto-renance and we wrap in a real rap.
54:12
[SPEAKER_00]: in any way that you could assemble the Avengers and do like a first-and-geet big-state person season.
54:18
[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of the season?
54:20
[SPEAKER_00]: No, at the end of the yard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
54:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: come together and work in terms of your creativity.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of something that I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I personally struggle with.
55:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure people are listening and watching it.
55:03
[SPEAKER_00]: My struggle with it as well, where it's like, you have different skill sets and or ideas.
55:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, I'm trying to be in the space of, how do I make sure if it don't work for the main thing that I'm trying to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for me, for example, if it's not focused on...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Black business, elevate and black voices, our community, podcast, and then, you know, I don't want to get too far outside of that or too far ahead of myself.
55:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So for you, I don't know if you had any words in encouragement for me, anybody who might be like me in terms of, how do you make it all kind of work together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how do you make sure you make space to feed each one?
55:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great question.
55:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm getting from what you're saying is that you are a creative hoarder, we all can be creative hoarders because when you create it, you come up with great ideas and you'll be like, this is a great idea, sometimes we got to let them go to.
56:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we got to learn how to let stuff go as a creative because we can hoard these ideas, hoard these, these things we can do like I got somebody that I just literally had a conversation with last night.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: and they was talking about that like, well, I'm working with the DPS schools and I'm trying to feed into my community and then I got these other schools, that's a good opportunity and then I got my own thing going on and it's just too much on her plate.
56:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling her, you need to let some stuff go.
56:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm saying like, and that's just what it is.
56:32
[SPEAKER_02]: If this right here is, is if you struggle in with the finances of your business and the DPS ain't providing it, but these,
56:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, go over here, we know where you're hard at, you're gonna come back over here and how do that.
56:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're gonna come back over here and do your own situation.
56:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just about prioritizing what's most important because like I said, we can be hoarders and we can be doing all these different things and we just can't.
56:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, what's the problem right now?
57:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it finances, is it finding the audience,
57:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And which one of these lanes can I pour into the most that makes the most sense?
57:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And not necessarily neglect these, but put everything on the base.
57:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, to put stuff on the back burner.
57:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the best advice I can get.
57:22
[SPEAKER_02]: We just as creators we hoard stuff.
57:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay to put stuff on the back burner and be like, all right, not right now with this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This right here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to pay the bills because
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to pay the bills or it's going to fund the rest of this so it's like, it's just about not hoarding and just really just being like okay with Lens that we don't be one of the less to go and we create enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's really what it is.
57:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's sometimes the inverse effect where it's like because you've been hoarding you get to a point what I noticed because I used to do web design for like 10 years so what I noticed with people is that
57:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Around this time of the year late November December you start reflecting on the year like oh, I said I'm gonna do that that the else going to do this and then so now you just trying to run That's a good.
58:04
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good way to put it too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely when the year start we definitely be like all right I didn't do this.
58:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do this.
58:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna do this.
58:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be so super motivated and too, but you don't think about that Jones a lot August when all that has gone right
58:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not feeling how you've just felt in January.
58:20
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't think about that when sick.
58:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you feel like they're January, February Uh-huh.
58:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, start Life gets the life and you not calculate mad in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stuff go man Don't don't hoard it.
58:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Do not hoard ideas do not hoard stuff everything can't get done You just want him to be and even if you got a team I can't do everything.
58:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so not in the let's stuff go.
58:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and prioritize like you prioritize it was most important
58:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
58:48
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
58:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeff Geese, working to people, if they're not tapped in already, working a tap in which if they want to work with you, they want to follow the journey, they want to support.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Follow me at chefgeet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please subscribe to my YouTube too.
59:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying at chefgeet.
59:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, if you want to reach out to me any type of business and queer memories just hit me up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Geet Safron at gmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's g e e c h s a f f r o n at gmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for show and oh, I definitely forgot this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Chef Geech is not a real name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't gonna say your government, but that's not the even one to say it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But where did you say it so Geech was your rap name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But where did that come from?
59:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Where did Geech come from?
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[SPEAKER_02]: being down there in the south tell me if you're experienced because you was I flirted yep so down in Florida the people I used to hang with they used to say guici a lot like stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they used to always say that to me like he guici he guici yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's kind of a dumb story but that that was like the seed
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I started rapping, rapping, I'd be right beside the kid, but when I started taking the serious with the college, and I was like, dang, when my rap name gonna be, and I was a big, big, meach fan growing up as a kid, I used to watch all the BMF, everything.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, hey, everybody doing the, and everybody was doing the big around there, big shine, big keys, big, like, I'm like, all right, I'm like dang, I can't be big meach, I'm like, I'm a big geek.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was my name at first, and then I was like,
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do that.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take the, I'm going to take the, I know what happened with that was around the time Rick Ross got in trouble with the disciples, because he was like, I think I'm Larry Hoover.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm like, I don't want to say big each and everybody try to get on me like you think he's like, all right, but I'm taking the big off.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So then it was just Gates and then like I said, it was legally taken.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So then everybody was like, what you're going to change our name to.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And at first, I had turned it, I legally had turned it into an acronym, ready, great SMC ever created here.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was like, that's just too much.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was like, just trying to shove it.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always inspired by your content and the work that I see I'm like, man, this is super dope.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that for me when I really dialed in, it's like when I saw the collaboration with your male and I'm like, oh yeah, he really, he serious about what it is that he's doing and he's continuing to build and make his mark man.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's very inspiring, man.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely encourage you to keep going, man.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know it's only great things on the horizon for you.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I appreciate you having me out, man.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And I appreciate what you doing right now, bro.
1:01:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if you get...
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so flowers, but definitely creating a podcast for black entrepreneurs on the rise already doing a thing that just give out the game bro Like this is a wonderful podcast and I hope you just continue to just feed until these people is much as possible Bro like you would you a gem.
1:01:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
1:01:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's love man.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that Appreciate that everybody watching listen.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Gonna type in with y'all soon piece piece out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a wrap