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The Birds and the Clown Bees · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large herdron Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Aeriel cast In and with me, as always is
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  Speaker 1: the Fantastical Friday. Jonathan Strickland. I don't know. I had
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  Speaker 1: nothing I.
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  Speaker 2: Got I got pooped on.
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  Speaker 1: Ew. That's that's a different podcast, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. It's not a bit. It's not a bit Aerial.
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  Speaker 2: It happened.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry. Were you holding babies?
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  Speaker 2: Were you? I was walking a dog and the dog
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  Speaker 2: is not what pooped.
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  Speaker 1: Dog pooped on you.
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  Speaker 2: No, the dog did not poop on me. I'm walking
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  Speaker 2: my dog. I'm about a block and a half away
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  Speaker 2: from my house, and then we're walking under some trees
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  Speaker 2: and I feel some warm water hit my arm but
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  Speaker 2: it's not water.
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  Speaker 1: No, at least you weren't looking up. Also, walk the dog.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't just like out there with your yo yo. Right.
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  Speaker 1: This was with actual like tible right.
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  Speaker 2: This was Yeah, this was with my fur baby, tiblt.
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  Speaker 2: And he was very confused because we were just really
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  Speaker 2: getting started, and I was like, nope, we're going back home,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, but we haven't done the walk yet.
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  Speaker 2: I nope. I need to get I need to get
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  Speaker 2: all of this off of me. I need to take
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  Speaker 2: a very hot, very soapy shower, and I need you
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  Speaker 2: to not ask any questions. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I don't. My cats don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm lucky enough that it's been super rare that
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  Speaker 1: I've been pooped on by a bird. However, I did
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  Speaker 1: the other day swallow a bug like it flew directly
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  Speaker 1: into the back of my throat and down my throat.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so no amount of soapy water that could
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  Speaker 1: fix that.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've learned that going outside to touch grass
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  Speaker 2: is not always as healing as they would like you
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  Speaker 2: to think. Stay inside, be an indoor kid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just take your vitamin D if you do that.
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  Speaker 1: The amount of people I know who have to take
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  Speaker 1: vitamin D supplements because we stay indoors all the time
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  Speaker 1: is massive. Slay everybody else. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I actually do get outside, you know, at least a
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  Speaker 2: couple times a day, which is largely because of my dog,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, I am thankful for it. It's just this
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  Speaker 2: was this was a particularly upsetting moment for me this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not like it's the first you know what.
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  Speaker 2: We before we started recording, Ariel and I were talking
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  Speaker 2: about disney World. I got pooped on at disney World once.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's really funny because I also had a bug
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  Speaker 1: flying directly into the back of my throat on the
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  Speaker 1: Slinky Dog.
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  Speaker 2: So in my case, it was a uh oh. It
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  Speaker 2: was also Hollywood Studios, because I think it was Hollywood Studios.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was when they were having one of
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  Speaker 2: the the candlelight processions, but they had had it at
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Studios that year. I think usually it's at Epcot,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it was that. And I was sitting
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  Speaker 2: on a bench under a little tree waiting for the
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  Speaker 2: procession to start, and I got pooped on, and I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: this does not put me in the holiday spirit.
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  Speaker 1: No, uh no guilding the Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, but but enough go back.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that, I said that.
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  Speaker 2: No, Well, it's okay, we'll just uh, we'll just pretend
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  Speaker 2: it didn't happen. I'm not going to edit it out though.
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  Speaker 2: But no, we're going to now now segue first before
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  Speaker 2: we get into the show. We wanted to take a
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  Speaker 2: moment to remember the artist John Romita Senior. He passed
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  Speaker 2: away this week. He was in his nineties. He lived
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  Speaker 2: a long, long time, very influential artist. He co created
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  Speaker 2: some famous characters in Marvel, including Mary Jane Watson, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Spider Man's girlfriend slash wife, depending upon which version of
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  Speaker 2: Spider Man you're reading. And he also co created Wolverine,
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  Speaker 2: one of the most popular Marvel characters of all time.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, he passed away this week. We just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to take a moment to remember someone who has created
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  Speaker 2: an incredibly popular and long lasting character, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: them that we still talk about today. In fact, one
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  Speaker 2: of the bits we'll be talking about in our thirty
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  Speaker 2: seconds or less ends up tapping into that in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sad news. So our thoughts in LOFE go out
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  Speaker 1: to mister Ramda's family.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, make sure you take a look into
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  Speaker 2: the work he did, because, like I said, extremely influential stuff.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the characters that you are familiar with
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  Speaker 2: would not exist, or at least wouldn't exist the way
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  Speaker 2: they do without him. But with that behind us, I
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  Speaker 2: think Ariel, if you are ready, we can head over
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  Speaker 2: to thirty seconds or less.
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  Speaker 1: Heck, I don't got to be ready for a full
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  Speaker 1: minute because you've got to go first.
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  Speaker 2: Well, half a minute if I do it right.
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  Speaker 1: Halfoot Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm ready. Okay, I should be clever,
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  Speaker 1: but I was anti clever.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, here we go. What's a force so powerful
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  Speaker 2: it can stop a DC villain or a Marvel superhero
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  Speaker 2: in their tracks? A writer's strike? Yes, word is out
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  Speaker 2: that both the upcoming Max mini series focusing on the
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  Speaker 2: Penguin and the Disney Plus Daredevil series are temporarily on
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  Speaker 2: hold as the writer's strike continues. Oh also, Disney's wonder
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  Speaker 2: Man series is on hold, as well as the film
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  Speaker 2: Thunderbolts plus Blade, which is competing with Fantastic Four for
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  Speaker 2: the film delayed the most number of times.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is thirty seconds or less. But I
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  Speaker 1: hate when news articles say indefinitely for stuff like this,
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  Speaker 1: because they put indefinitely because they don't want to win.
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  Speaker 1: And these strikes are going to be over, it's not
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  Speaker 1: that they're gone forever. I hate it. I hate the clickbait. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So remember back when we were getting like Battleship and
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  Speaker 1: a promise of a Tetris Reequill and all of these
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  Speaker 1: board game movies, and then they kind of all went
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  Speaker 1: away before they came to fruition. Well, one of them
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  Speaker 1: might be holding on. It is said that Tim's story
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  Speaker 1: is working on a Monopoly movie that had a previous
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  Speaker 1: script about a young man who lived on Baltic Avenue
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  Speaker 1: and went to make a fortune. But it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: he's not sure where he wants the script to go.
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  Speaker 1: He has way too many competing ideas. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if this one comes to fruition, if they boardwalk it
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  Speaker 1: or some insert clever monopoly thing here.
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  Speaker 2: If it passes go and collects two hundred dollars it, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 2: or if it goes to jail.
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  Speaker 1: Are you so good at that?
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  Speaker 2: I had time to think about it while you were talking. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: here's my next one. The Sun has set on Gotham Knights,
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  Speaker 2: the CW show that asked the question what happens to
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  Speaker 2: Gotham after Batman dies? The answer is it gets one
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  Speaker 2: more year and then it's all over. The show featured
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  Speaker 2: characters like the Joker's daughter who actually turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be two faces daughter, Batman's adopted son, and some other
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  Speaker 2: folks that casual fans like me wouldn't know at all.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't related to the Gotham Knights video game.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm so behind on all that, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even realize the sun had risen on it yet.
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  Speaker 1: It's shame. It's shame, okay, but also falls in line
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  Speaker 1: with DC's current plan for things. Okay. Atari Atari, that
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  Speaker 1: old school gaming system is coming out with its first
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  Speaker 1: twenty six hundred cartridge in over thirty years. The game
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  Speaker 1: is mister Run and Jump about a dude who's going
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  Speaker 1: after his doggie and falls into the dark realm. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of our stories are gonna deal with the dark today,
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  Speaker 1: but you can also play it on PC or more
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  Speaker 1: modern consoles. But if you have an old Autari and
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  Speaker 1: you've been going, man, I wish I could pull this
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  Speaker 1: out and play stuff again. Well, now it's like gonna
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  Speaker 1: be pertinent and irrelevant. You're gonna have a new game
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: Cool. I was an Atari twenty six hundred kids, so
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  Speaker 2: I think that's neat. Okay. Dead Bull three is not
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  Speaker 2: only still coming out, it's actually moved up the schedule
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  Speaker 2: and Wolverine's gonna be in it. But one person who
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  Speaker 2: won't see in the movie is Zazzi Beats, who played
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  Speaker 2: Domino in Dead Bool two. And that's a real shame
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  Speaker 2: because I thought she was great in that movie and
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  Speaker 2: the character was tons of fun. Side fact, because of
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  Speaker 2: the writer's strike, Reynolds isn't allowed to improvise on set,
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  Speaker 2: but he might be able to do it in post
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  Speaker 2: production if the strike's over by that.
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  Speaker 1: I that's so weird to me because improvisation is usually
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  Speaker 1: not scripted.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But Ryan Reynolds is credited as a writer for
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  Speaker 2: the movie, so if he makes something new up on
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  Speaker 2: the spot, he's technically writing for the film.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, I think they'd be better. Just a
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  Speaker 1: positive at that point writing ha segue That favorite book
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  Speaker 1: of Jonathan's Ready Player one. It's three seconds or less
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  Speaker 1: You Can't You Can't Argue with Me, written by Ernest Klin.
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  Speaker 1: The author Ernest Klin is get making a new book.
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  Speaker 1: This one is called Bridge to Bat City and it's
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  Speaker 1: about a young girl named Ope Leaf Flatts who befriends
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  Speaker 1: a colony of music loving bats and then they move
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  Speaker 1: to Austin and get accepted for all being weirdos. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds delightful, apparently, the writer used to tell these kind
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  Speaker 1: of stories to his kids, and then he was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to make a book about it. So they
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  Speaker 1: call it like a mostly true tall modern day tall tale.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming out in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four Yeah, I guess no word yet. If like ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight percent of the book is just going to be
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  Speaker 2: references to different.
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  Speaker 1: Songs, all right, it would be cute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, here we go. The Leprechaun franchise, which yes
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  Speaker 2: has gone both into the hood twice and into outer space,
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  Speaker 2: features a malicious, murderous Leprechaun slashing his way toward a
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  Speaker 2: pot of goole. Now lions Gate is working on a
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  Speaker 2: new entry. Sadly, Warwick Davis, who originated the role, isn't
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  Speaker 2: expected to return. He wasn't in the last two films
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  Speaker 2: that were in twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen either, And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Jennifer Andiston is going to be in
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  Speaker 2: it either. She was in the first one.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: watch Leprecaun too scary?
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  Speaker 2: List Well it's trust me, Ariel. It's not too scary,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also not good, so you don't need to
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  Speaker 2: watch it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm scared by killer clowns about her space, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm still scared by Jaws in sometimes Jurassic Park. It's
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  Speaker 1: too scary.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough?
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  Speaker 1: Well, from lions Gate to DreamWorks, DreamWorks and Animation and
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  Speaker 1: Netflix are partnering up for a new cartoon, Orion and
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  Speaker 1: the Dark, about a young boy named Oriyan, who is
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  Speaker 1: very anxious and has a lot of fears that they
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  Speaker 1: call irrational fears, like bees and gutter clowns, falling off
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  Speaker 1: a cliff. Some of those I think, like falling off
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  Speaker 1: a cliff, I feel is a reasonable fear, but regardless,
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  Speaker 1: his biggest fear is the Dark. I relate to that.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about it on the show before. However,
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  Speaker 1: at one night, he is visited by the Dark, who
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  Speaker 1: takes him on like a little Nemo kind of tour
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  Speaker 1: around the world for Dark Adventures, and he learns it's
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  Speaker 1: not something to be scared of. The open Like the
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  Speaker 1: first look pictures look actually really cute. So maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: helping me through my fears.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, but they just gave me a new fear of
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  Speaker 2: clown bees. All right, Oh no, hey, you got last
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  Speaker 2: of us on my haunted house. Hey, you got a
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  Speaker 2: haunted house on my Last of Us? Say yep. Universal
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  Speaker 2: is bringing us a Last of Us inspired haunt to
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  Speaker 2: Halloween horror Nights at Universal Studios parks in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: and in Orlando, Florida. The attractions will be based on
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  Speaker 2: the games, not the mini series, so don't expect Zaddy
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  Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal to pop out at you sucks. The attractions
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  Speaker 2: open in early September, so get ready to run from
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  Speaker 2: clickers and maniacs.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds delightful and scary. Hey you got bad cartoons
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  Speaker 1: on my Scooby doo. Hey you guys give me.
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  Speaker 2: Too my back cart got Oh well, Velma, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: It is?
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  Speaker 1: Apparently Velma, despite getting completely panned for the first season,
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  Speaker 1: is getting a second season. You know why because once
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  Speaker 1: everybody heard how bad it was, they're all like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I have to see for myself, and so they all
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  Speaker 1: watched it. So this goes to show you that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: spite watching or hate watching the show to see how
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  Speaker 1: bad it is will have bad adverse effects.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, Jonathan, I take responsibility for my part
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  Speaker 2: in bringing Velma back. Actually, I think we had even
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  Speaker 2: heard rumors before Velma season one was over that they
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  Speaker 2: were already going to green light a season two. So
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  Speaker 2: this just confirms what we were already kind of suspecting.
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  Speaker 2: But it doesn't make it any better.
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  Speaker 1: No, And like the writer's strike gave them the perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, and they didn't take it.
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  Speaker 1: Take it well.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into all the news items, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we usually talk about stuff what we have watched, Ariel,
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  Speaker 2: you got a few on here. I see why don'd
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  Speaker 2: you talk about them? Sure?
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  Speaker 1: So I watched a lot of things last weekend. In
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  Speaker 1: this week, First of all, I finished Last of Us.
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  Speaker 1: There's a half of one episode I didn't watch because
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  Speaker 1: I saw where it was going, and then I read
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  Speaker 1: the plot for it and went, nope, these are topics
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  Speaker 1: that I don't want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, beyond traumatic for you, and that is perfectly
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  Speaker 2: that's a perfectly acceptable thing to have chosen to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. However, I loved the series. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: so well done. You know it's not. There are very
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  Speaker 1: happy moments, which I think is what makes it leaps
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  Speaker 1: and bounds above the Walking Dead is like it is
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  Speaker 1: more hopeful. It's also very hard at times, but I
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  Speaker 1: thought super well done. I'm glad I finished it. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I watched Power Rangers once and always. We had talked
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  Speaker 1: about that a while ago on the show, which was
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  Speaker 1: the Power Rangers thing where they get new people in
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  Speaker 1: or sorry, oh lord, my air conditioning just went on everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and I've lost my mind. The Power Rangers movie for Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: where it's the original Black Ranger and Blue Ranger and
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  Speaker 1: then they have like the second edition Red and Pink
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  Speaker 1: Rangers come in and the Yellow Rangers daughter and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a memorial to Trainy the Yellow Ranger.
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  Speaker 1: It was cute. It was a very long og Power
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  Speaker 1: Rangers episode with some bizarre cgi interesting oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: if you like Power Rangers then it was fun, not good,
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  Speaker 1: but fun. And then also I watched The Little Mermaid.
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  Speaker 1: I went in not yeah, not. I wasn't sure whether
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  Speaker 1: I would be super critical because so far the live
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  Speaker 1: action remakes haven't really hit me very well. Aladdin was
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  Speaker 1: the best of them in my mind, and that was
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  Speaker 1: still just okay, or whether I was going to just
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  Speaker 1: nostalgically really love it because the Little Mermaid, for good
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  Speaker 1: and for bad, was such a part of my life
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  Speaker 1: and I've gone on like this large winding, evolutionary journey
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  Speaker 1: of my thoughts on the property, but I actually really
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. So there are a lot of shot for
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  Speaker 1: shot moments, and like the first forty minutes of the
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  Speaker 1: movie are pretty slow because it's a lot of setup
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of like going through the ocean, and
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  Speaker 1: it's beautiful and all that. But then they get to
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  Speaker 1: the middle. Ariel gets to the mainland with her legs
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  Speaker 1: right and turns into a freaking Rogers and Hammerstein's musical.
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  Speaker 1: Like everything once she was on land was so wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: I know some people don't like the scuttle Butt song,
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  Speaker 1: which is scuttle and Sebastian rapping. I honestly thought it
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  Speaker 1: kind of fit the way they did it give it
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  Speaker 1: like a very like Sondheim modern general sort of a
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  Speaker 1: feel to me at a time in the movie where
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  Speaker 1: I felt like they would want to be hurrying up
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  Speaker 1: so they would want to be talking faster, rapping all
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  Speaker 1: of that. I absolutely loved. The lyrics they changed were fine.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them could have been changed lest but again
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  Speaker 1: it was totally fine. It didn't matter. And then they
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  Speaker 1: added a little tweak to the very end, which kind
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  Speaker 1: of gave the story like a moral or a message
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  Speaker 1: that to my husband, who saw this with me because
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  Speaker 1: he loves me very much, made the entire remake worth
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  Speaker 1: it to him. So really liked it. I think it
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  Speaker 1: is now the best of the live action remakes. I
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: also tried to watch try Gun, but the voiceover version
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  Speaker 1: doesn't come out till next week, and I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: to watch the Tony's, but I did totally watch the
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  Speaker 1: Shucked and the Sweeney Todd performances from it.
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  Speaker 2: And what did you think?
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of uh of the Tonies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of the of the performances.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Sweeney Todd I thought was great, Josh Grobin didn't
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  Speaker 1: sound too opera e and Gatton Mattasaro Dustin from Stranger
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  Speaker 1: Things whose name I have butchered was wonderful and everybody
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  Speaker 1: was super super great. Shucked was pretty dang funny. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna lie. Apparently the story takes
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  Speaker 1: place in Cobb County because it's a corn musical.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not not Cobb County, Georgia. I amagine no.
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  Speaker 1: But it took me like a full sixty seconds to
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  Speaker 1: realize that, because again, one of my one of the
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  Speaker 1: people I know from back when I did community theater
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  Speaker 1: as a teenager is in shocked. He's he's like this sad,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: sap romantic lead. I think, dude, but no, it was
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: really cute and bizarre and corny. You should check it out, Jonathan.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep everything I've heard about it makes it
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: sound like it's kind of my bag. Like I love
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: puns and I love corny jokes, and obviously this one
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: has literally tons of both, and I would really dig it,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. I Just part of me is like thinking
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I want to experience it for the first time when
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I actually see it on stage, and part of me
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: is thinking, maybe I should dive in and listen to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the soundtrack first. I go back and forth. I've done
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: both for different types of musicals, and yeah, I haven't
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: decided yet if that's what I'm gonna do so, but
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I do know I will eventually see it. It's just
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a question of when.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: You should watch the number from the Tonys, because that
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: might give you a better idea of which way you
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: want to go.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I mean one number that's not gonna
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that's not gonna ruin everything. For me, I didn't really
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: watch anything geeky this week. It has been a very
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: very busy week for me from work, and so I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: just I was wiped out at the end of every
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: single day. I did watch quite a bit of the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: previews and the trailers for various games as part of
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the Summer Game Fest and the kind of surrounding conferences
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and presentations. So like, I watched the Starfield presentation, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: that thing looks amazing. I was very very skeptical of it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That's the game from Bethesda, the same company that does
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Skyrim and the Fallout series. I wasn't sure what to think,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: but it looks really cool. I worry that it's a
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: bit too wide open, that without more direction, it may
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: feel like you aren't sure what to do. And part
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of me is like, yeah, it's awesome to be able
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to do anything. But then if you don't have any
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: real direction, you may just feel like low lost in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: options and you never really do anything. So I don't
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: know how that's going to play out when the game
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: goes live, but I will say it looks. It looks fun.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So I didn't watch that is it is it world
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: exploratory or is it more like like a like a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: mass effect sort of storyline, so sort of storyline.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: There's there is a storyline of sorts, at least of
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: some nature to it. But imagine that you have a
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: galaxy that's full of one thousand worlds and you can
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: visit them. You can get in a ship and you
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: can travel to them. The distance you can travel is
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: dependent upon the drive on your ship, and you can
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: upgrade that drive as you earn credits in the game. Uh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But you can go and visit these things. You can
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: go do side quests, you can be a pirate, you
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: can be a smuggler, you can do all this kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: of stuff. Or you could just focus on like the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: main storyline missions. But it looks to me like it's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: like think of it like like a game like Skyrim,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like especially Skyrim, where yeah, there's a narrative, there's a story,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: but you could totally turn your back on that story
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and just focus on other stuff for your entire playthrough
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and never feel like you missed out. You'll you might
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you'll eventually peter out just because you've played for so long.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I'm worried about with Starfield,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: because I'm definitely one of those people who when I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: play a game, if I come across a side quest,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm immediately diverted, Like I don't. I'm like, I need
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to finish this before I go any further in the story,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: because what if by going further in the story, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: cut off my ability to do the side quest. So
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: games like that I find a little like I almost
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: never finish them because I get so bogged down and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: trying to do all the side quests. So I don't
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: know how I'm gonna feel about it. Ultimately, it does
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: look like it'll be fun, so I'll probably end up
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: getting it when it comes out, and they have a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: couple of different special editions that look really cool too,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a bit concerned it'll be another one
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of those titles where I start playing and then you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: two hundred hours in, I haven't gotten really that far
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in the story, and I just put it down and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: never pick it up again.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what happened to me is Skyrim.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: It was so open world, and it was like my
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: first video like my first proper video game that I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: owned that like, I didn't go back to it, which
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is why I keep saying I need to go and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: replace Skyrim. But even with like mass effect, I ended
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: up looking up like a, here's the order you need
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to do all your quests in to end where you
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: can find them to make sure that I wouldn't block
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: off those things because I wanted the very best outcome
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: for my character.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It might be cheating now I understand that, though, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: mean I totally get that. It's yeah, it's it's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it's a tough thing to to really resist, right uh.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Like it's again, you're given all these choices. It's like
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: if you're doing a Choose your own adventure game or
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: book rather and you're reading through and you get to
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: an ending and you're like, oh, I bet that's not
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the best ending. And you know, it's just that feeling
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like you want the best outcome and yeah, you could
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: just do a full replay, but that's a lot of investment.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So I totally get it, Like I've been there, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you know, it's very frustrating to have put that much
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: time into a game and then realize, oh, this isn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the good ending, Like oh man, what did I do?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Where did I go wrong? And Yeah, very frustrating experience.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I will say one other shout out, I want to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: give it, we didn't really well. Two shout outs. First
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: of all, see if Thieves has an expansion coming out
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: that has the Monkey Island characters in it and the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: music and everything. Like, they had a little preview where
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: you get to go to Monkey Island, or rather you
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: get to go to an island where the characters from
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Monkey Island are on there, including Guybrush, three BOYD, world
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Famous Pirate, and I was like, this is amazing that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: they did this crossover because I love the Monkey Island series.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: The other thing is there's a game called South of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Midnight that you only get to really see a cinematic
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: from that, but my gosh, that game looks amazing and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: atmospheric and creepy and filled with like the mythology of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Louisiana and the Bayou, and man, I am eager to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: see more of South of Midnight.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think I think there was no this is not
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the one I was thinking of. There was another kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of weird, creepy Western game that came out I think
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: last year that was getting confused with Anyhow, I have
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to definitely check out those trailers for sure, because they
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: sound like they'd be for me as well. Yeah, so
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you didn't get to watch more giky things,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: but a full weekend of video games is up there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's pretty geeky. It's just that that happened
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to be also for work, so it was I probably
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: would have watched them anyway, let's be honest. But like
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I was covering it because we didn't get
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: E three this year. I was covering that kind of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to talk about what stuff was coming out despite the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: fact that there's no E three, and and sort of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: how Summer Game Fest has kind of taken the torch
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that was dropped by E three, and whether E three
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: will be back again in the future. We don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Speaking of things we don't know, I've got a list
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: of projects that are currently facing delays because of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: writer's strike. This actually plays into like the first two
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: stories in our lineup, because first I'm gonna go more general,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and then we're gonna talk about Disney, particularly because as
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: we know, Disney owns about half of all the entertainment
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: out there, So we'll start with the other half first.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So the writer's strike still going on, and here are
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: some of the things that have been impacted. First of all,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Late Night TV Saturday Night Live, that kind of stuff.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: We knew that was going to be impacted. It was
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: impacted right away. It continues to be so. But also
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: a Night of the Seven Kingdoms The Hedge Night, which
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: is a Game of Throne spinoff that you may or
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: may not have known what was happening. It's been delayed.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: George R. R. Martin has expressed his support for the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: writers with that regard. American Dad and Family Guy are
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: both delayed. Seth is really supportive of writers as well.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Cobra Kai is now delayed. This one really hurts. Severance
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: is now delayed. I can't wait to see what happens
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in season two of Severance, but I'm gonna have to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Stranger things has been delayed. Yellowjackets got one day into
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: work on season three when the strike happened, so it's delayed.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And Good Omens is not delayed because it was already
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: shot by the time the writer's strike happened. But because
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of the writer's strike, Neil Gaiman will not be participating
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: in promoting the series, which he says really hurts, but
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: he's abiding by the writer's strike. He is part of
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the Writer's Guild of America, so that's a rundown of
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the non Disney stuff what has been delayed.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: That's a lot but also expected.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that list is just going to get longer,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I mean the longer the strike goes on. And if
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the sag Aftra union strikes as well, it'll be an
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: even bigger impact obviously. But then we talk about Disney.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: So gosh, Disney announced a whole bunch of changes to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: its schedule. And you know that Disney occasionally comes out
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and puts these incredibly ambitious timeline lines down, like we've
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: seen it with Marvel, We've seen it with Star Wars,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and sometimes things go wrong and the plans change, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that has happened big time because partly because of the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: writer's strike. There may be other reasons as well, but
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I assume the writer strike is playing a big part
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except for Deadpool, which has gotten moved up, yes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: which is which is weird because of what you previously
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: told us about him like having to go put put
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in improvn post.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like what they're doing right now is
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: they're sticking strictly to the script as written, and they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: just doing the script as written. And if the strike
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: ends while they're still going through post production. Because Deadpool
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: wears a mask, Reynolds can go in and just record
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: additional dialogue that is played over a masked Deadpool and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: throw in improvised lines after the fact. Of course, it
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: will still have to fit within the context of the scene.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's now going to be on May third,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Previously it had been scheduled for November
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, So that's one exception. Everything else, though,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: is different. Like Captain America, Brave New World has been
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: pushed back from May of next year to July. Thunderbolts
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: was in July, now it's pushed to December of next year. Blade,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: which once again is delayed, was September of twenty twenty four,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: now it's Valentine's Day twenty twenty five. Fantastic four got
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: pushed again. It was February twenty twenty five. It's been
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: pushed to May second, twenty twenty five. Avatar three was
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: supposed to be at the end of twenty twenty four,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: now'll be the end of twenty twenty five. Avatar four
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be twenty twenty six, Now it's twenty
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: twenty nine, so three years difference. Avatar five was supposed
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to be twenty twenty eight, now it's twenty thirty one.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we're talking that far out at this point.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: You know that date's gonna change. Avengers The Kang Dynasty
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be twenty twenty five, Now it'll be
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: May first, twenty twenty six. And Avenger Secret Wars was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: supposed to be twenty twenty six, now it's going to
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: be twenty twenty seven. There's an untitled Star Wars film
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: that was supposed to come out in December of twenty
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: twenty five, now it'll be May twenty twenty six. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: then a second untitled Star Wars film was added for
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: December twenty twenty six, so we'll get two Star Wars
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: movies that year for some reason, and then a third
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: one the following year.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I'm already tired.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also didn't mention Thunderbolts, which has been delayed,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and wonder Man, which has been delayed, and Daredevil Born Again.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Oh I mentioned. Yeah, Yeah, that's true. I true, but yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: those are those are all delayed too, And yeah, it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: just it's obviously one of the dangers when you announ
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: these very ambitious slates that things can change and you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: everything can shift around. I think also the Avenger stuff,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: like we've talked about this that Jonathan Major's and the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: legal issues that he faces could potentially be playing a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: part in that. So this isn't all necessarily just due
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to the writer's strike. There are probably other elements. I mean,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine the writer's strike is having that big
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of an effect on the Avatar films, apart from the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: fact that those are so cgi heavy.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could be because yeah, they can't be
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: writing on it. I don't know, I don't know. You know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: everything's going to change again if SAYAFRA goes into a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: strike anyhow.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So that's true. But yeah, that's kind of I mean,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: like it's important to kind of remember at the end
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of the day. Yes, it's frustrating to see stuff you
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: were looking forward to get pushed further in the future,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: but ultimately, if it means that writers are going to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: have their issues addressed, that's okay. It's a small price
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to pay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Listen. Listen. I will admit that I slightly disassociated once
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you said Fantastic four was delayed to twenty twenty five.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's still more chance for me to get
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: cast as Ben Grimm. I don't actually know if that's true.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people they've cast already.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I still think that you being the rock of Yancey
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Street is a long shot, Ariel. I love you to death,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but it is it look like.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I know it's a long shot. I know that it's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: probably not even smart casting, but it can be a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: thing that I would like to do.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Anyhow Well, we've got plenty of other news to talk
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: about that doesn't necessarily involve the writer's strike. And one
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: thing that I thought was interesting is that so the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Golden Globe Awards, which used to be the domain of
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, has been through the ringer
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, with you know, conversations about
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: how how much there was a lack of diversity in
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: representation in nominations and in presenters and all that sort
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and it sort of was besieged by critics.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And something interesting is happening now where the Golon Gloves
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: is no longer going to be a Hollywood Foreign Press
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Association presentation.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: No, it's going to be for profit.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dick Clark Productions has bought it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I realize that for profit means that they're going to
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: try to get like sponsorship and commercial and things like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that for it, but it for some reason, my brain
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: just jumps immediate to immediately to like the biggest buyers
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: get the best, best rewards or something.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Well, if we're I mean, if we're being a real areal,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what awards are like today. I mean,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: like Oscars. It's no secret that when Oscar season comes around,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: movie studios spend a whole lot of money trying to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: campaign for their films and their stars to be nominated
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and to win. So yeah, I mean, like I'm sour
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: on awards in general because I often feel that they
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: aren't really genuine, that they don't really go to necessarily
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the person or the project that most deserves them. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: also find it kind of weird to pit art and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: artists against each other, Like I don't like to think
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of art as being competitive, and that's part of the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: problem I have with it. But yeah, I definitely think
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that if the Golden Globes were to remain relevant, there
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: did need to be a change. It just shocked me
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that it was going to be like literally the Hollywood
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Foreign Press Association essentially dissolving and this Dick Clark Production's
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: coming in to take it over.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean some of the people from the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: form press are coming over to this new some of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: them to the new system.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of awards shows and kind of paying to play,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: have you been following Game Changers trying to get an Emmy?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: No? I did not even know about this.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So Hank Green, who listeners. If you don't
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: know who he is, I know him mainly from TikTok
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of like I know he does other stuff, but he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: does like how did this video happen? Let me explain
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the magic behind this or the science behind this. He's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: kind of like an Adam Conover type.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, older people all out there you know him
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: because he's He and his brother have had a YouTube
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: series for literally years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyhow, he had mentioned that Game Changers, which is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the game show that changes every time on Dropout TV,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: should get an Emmy, and so Samuraich, who owns the company,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, maybe we'll try. Now they
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: got in there. They got in their submission a little
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: bit late, and because of the writers strike, all of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the money that they had for their four year consideration
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: campaign to try to get momentum on gaining that Emmy,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: because like you said, there's legit campaigning for these awards,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they have instead donated to the Entertainment Community Fund to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: help out artists during the writers strike. So they're asking
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: for people, if you like Game Changers and you think
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it should win an Emmy, to tweet about it with
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: hashtag Emmy for Game Changers or any for game Changer,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting because it just goes back
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to the things we talked about about campaigning and all
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that show, by the way, is a real joy
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: because the whole game of the show is to figure
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: out what the game is. Right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes they tell you upfront.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: That's true, but more often than not, what happens is
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: you've got the competitors who are sitting there and like
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the gimmick is, you don't know what the game is
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: when you go into it, and that you will be told,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: possibly at the very beginning, or the game is to
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: figure out what the game is, and you might be
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: asked questions and you'll give answers and you kind of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: judge by the response to your answers about whether or
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: not you're doing the right thing. In other cases, like
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: you were saying Ariel like the like it's it's it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a giveaway at the at the very beginning, like yes,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: this game is all about making sounds based upon a prompt,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: like you have to make a sound with your human
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: body and human voice that is based off this prompt
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: and the best. If it's good, then Sam Reisch will
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: give you points, and if it's not, then he'll just
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: be a real jerk about it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Or like their Christmas Price game where they have to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: explain you're going to open a box and it's going
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to have something in it, either a good prize or
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a bad thing you have to do, and you've got
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to try to get people to steal it or not
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: steal it, depending on whether you want to keep it
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a light elephant type of thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a fan of drop out like us
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: or game changers like us, you know, help help them
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: out because they're grass rotten their amy nod. But also
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: if you aren't and you're like, huh, maybe I want
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to check it out. It is not safe for kids.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Don't let your kids watch it?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, all right, So next up, we're going to talk
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: about a couple of games that were shown off this
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: past week, ones that I did not mention when we
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: were chatting about stuff we've seen. Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, from here on out, it's the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: oops all trailers.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's all trailers. In fact, I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: don't know why I put you know what, After we
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: do the two that I have listed, let's do the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: last one on the list too, because it's also a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: video game trailer, and I don't know why I didn't
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: schedule it properly. Okay, that's a little bit behind the scenes.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I organized the show lineup and I did a whoopsie.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I put that last one in.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but I didn't change its order, all right,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And this way we'll end with a horror movie the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: way we're supposed to. Okay, So first up is we
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for a new entry in the Faisel franchise,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: now Fable. I don't know how many of y'all have
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: played the Fable games. The first one was a lot
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: of fun. The concept was to have this very open
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: kind of game system, fantasy world, lots of magic, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the choices you made would determine your character's fate, like
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: they could become more and more saintly, are more and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: more evil, and your appearance would change based on that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: It's very similar to what you would see in games
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: like Knights in the Old Republic, Fable great game, Fable two,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: still a pretty good game. Fable three. Not a lot
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: of people like Fable three. And then it went quiet
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for more than a decade, and we got a teaser
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: for the new Fable game and it has a particularly
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: beloved nerdy actor in it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Richard Aoati, who is Moss in the IT crowd.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: He also does Travelman and tech Man jadget Man, Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Gadget Adgetman. He's kind of like the narrator of this
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: new trailer. First of all, the only memories I have
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: of the first Fable game or that your character had
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to eat food at certain points. And one of my
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: dear friends was visiting and playing the game. We were
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: all watching him and we kept feeding him chips, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: every time we'd feed him a chip while he was
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: playing the game, he'd eat with as his character. It
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: was ridiculous fun, that's all I remember from the original.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Richard Aiawati is kind of the the narrator
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of the trailer. You find out throughout the trailer. Maybe
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: also a bad guy. I'm not sure, it depends. It
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: depends on your view of various Fables and fairy tales.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Definitely, you definitely find out that he's taller than you
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: would have expected.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Honestly, this trailer made me really excited to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: play this new Fable game, despite the fact that I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: did not personally play the first one. Although I will
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: say like his face had some serious uncanny valley going on,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: like his eyes in his mouth did not feel like
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: they belonged on the rest of his head.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I don't know if he even appears
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: in the game or if that was literally just made
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: as a teaser and that's all we'll ever see. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: don't know one way or the other. But I do
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: know that this version, this title of Fable is coming
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: from a different game studio than the one that made
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the original trilogy, but it definitely seems to have that
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: quirky sense of humor that I associate with the Fable games.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: So I too, am eager to get a chance to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: see some more from this.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: One, although if Richard Ayoadi is not in it, I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: might put down the game and never played again.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Totally I get it. Well. The next one that we
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: have is if you thought Goat Simulator was absurd fun
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: but seriously lacking in firepower, could I interest you in
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Squirrel with a.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: You could, although I would I would say like, if
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you want to up the firepower from Goat Simulator, you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: want to do the untitled Goose game because you can
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: pick up a knife and chase people with that. That's
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the middle step between Goat Simulator and score with a gun.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But yes, I didn't know this game was coming out.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Apparently it was announced that it was happening like last year,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and I completely missed it. And it is a hitman
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: drops a gun and a squirrel picks it up and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: goes on a rampage. Like why why is this a game?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And if you're thinking, hey, a scroll is so small
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: if it were to fire a gun, the gun would
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: end up creating such force that it would shoot the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: squirrel backward. Well guess what you just latched onto a
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: fundamental component of the game's mechanics.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So interesting, so interesting and really like. I have friends
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: who are homeowners who hate squirrels because they have a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: real squirrel problem. I don't hate squirrels. Some times I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: wish they would leave my stuff alone, but I think
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: they're pretty cute. But for these people who who like
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: squirrels are their arch nemesis, I feel like this game
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is a nightmare for them.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's It's like the equivalent of being playing
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Dead for daylight, Dead by Daylight for them. The trailer
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: is goofy. I mean honestly, as I was watching and
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, this looks like the type of game
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: where I appreciate the concept more than I would actually
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: enjoy playing the game. So, while I don't plan on
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: picking this one up, kudos to game developers for continuing
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to come up with outside the box thinking when it
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: comes to what's a good game concept. I mean, think
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: about that someone had to come up with this idea
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and then convince other people that that idea was good
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: enough to pour the time and resources in necessary to
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: make a game out of it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know what, though, I bet a lot
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of people are gonna play it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I honestly think like this if the game
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: is well one if the game is either really good
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: or coincident paradoxically, if the game is really bad. I
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: have a feeling it's gonna be a big hit with
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: like certain YouTube and Twitch streaming channels.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know if I'm gonna play it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I did play some Goat simulator and I also played
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: some untitled Goose game, and I just I got frustrated
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: with both of them.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: The controls and the camera are both weird in both
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: of those games.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But something you might get frustrated with but
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I would not is the new lamp Laders League gig
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's coming out, which I mistitled on our show line up,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: which is like a turn based monster Huntererye Rogues Gallery
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: sort of fun thing.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a squad based game, so if you're like
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: playing those games where you have four or five members
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: on your squad and in a turn you can move
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: people or get them into cover or fire that kind
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: of thing. But these are characters who are all kind
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of misfits and outcasts, and they have different abilities. So
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: like you have one character who's best at at sort
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of sneaky flanking maneuvers, and you know characters who are
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: better at that brute force that type of thing, and
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it's it's all about putting together the right combination of
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: characters and tactics to take down whatever enemies you're going
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: up against. I'm just terrible at those games, which is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: why I think the aesthetic looks amazing. It has sort
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: of a steam punky kind of feel to it, or
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: at least or at least a sort of fantasy punky
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: kind of feel to it, like if it were set
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: in the eighteen hundreds kind of era, and I thought
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: it looked neat. But I just I'm just I'm terrible
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: at those games.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not always the best at them either. I'm pretty
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: good at like where it's where you just have a
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: turn order, so like the Penny Arcade games, which honestly,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: when I first started watching this trailer, I thought this
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: was a new Penny Arcade game and I was super
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: excited about it. But at least one of those is
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: also turn based, and maybe both of them I don't
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: remember now it's been a while. But like I can,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I can figure out the best move for the person
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: whose turn it is, but sometimes knowing how to equip
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: my team is harder. Like I struggled with that again
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: in Mass Effect. I keep going back to Mass Effect.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: It's one of the few games that I've like finished
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: finished the entire series of I play a lot of
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: games I'm not and then I get distracted with something
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: shiny and I don't finish them. But uh, yeah, I'm
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: super into this. I'd be more into it if it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: were another penny Ardcade game, but I'm super into this.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Well you know what, Uh, I think it looks great
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: for what it is. So maybe I'll be one of
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: those that I'll again watch playthroughs on YouTube because often
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: that's what that's how where my go to is for
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: games where I just I'm like, I appreciate this, but
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I know that it's not It doesn't play to my
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: strength and I would find it frustrating. I feel the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: same way about like competitive shooters. I just know I'm
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm turning forty eight pretty soon. I am
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: not of the age where I have the twitch skills
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to match up against the young'ins out there, so for
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: me that there's no point in playing those games. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: would just be bullet Sponge and uh. But I like
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: watching I like watching people who are really good at them,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: so probably gonna feel the same way about this one.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: But maybe if I watch enough of it and I think, hey,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: maybe this is the game get me into that genre
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and that style of games, maybe that's the one I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: pick up. Although I would have guessed that if any
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: game would have done that, it would have been the
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the Mario versus Rabids games.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one. Honestly, I don't I don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: have I have time for games, but I have a
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: hard time being like, okay, let me go down and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: turn on my game system and start a game right now.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that. Well, let's talk a bit about
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: all the trailers for passive entertainment now that we're done
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: with the game stuff. And first up is the trailer
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: for Carl's Date, which I assume has been attached to Elemental.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: So some of y'all listening to this may have already
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: seen it.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It has in fact been attached to Elemental.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so for some of you, this isn't news,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: this is olds because you already saw it. Yeah.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So apparently there's this old guy in Disney name with
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: a dog, and.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: You are killing me right now going on a date.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: You're killing so obviously this is Carl from Pixars UP,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and I would not be.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Able to tell you that was his name in a vacuum, Oh.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: My gosh, and is he is betraying his deceased wife,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the love of his life and going on a date.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: And I hated this. I hated it. I hated it,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: and like, yes, I know people should be allowed to
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: move on, and that he had been grieving for her,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: and that the end of UP was kind of his
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: reconciliation of grief, and I get all of that, but
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: she she gave him a grape soda pop pen aeriel.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that. But listen, listen, Jonathan. It's been
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: over ten years since his wife passed away in UP,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: because UP happened in two thousand and nine.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And now I don't know if I don't know if
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: it's okay. It can't be here for a year because
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Doug is spry as hell. There's no way that dog
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: would still be that sprite ten years later.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Dick, Dick van Dyke, you know, like anyhow, he was
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: seventy eight in UP according to IMDb, so he could
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: be eighty eight, and so there are some very sprite
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: eighty ninety. No, but Van Dyke is a very Doug
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: is the dog.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Doug is the dog. Doug is in Doug is
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: in Up. And dogs do not age gracefully over the
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: course of the decade.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So okay, well touche there, Jonathan. You got me. However, I,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: as someone who has absolutely no emotional connection to this character,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine that he's able.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: To move on. And because she hasn't watched it, she
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: has not watched it. Y'all where memories When you watch
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the first ten minutes of Up, and it absolutely wrecks
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: you emotionally, like angry, crying, sobs racking your body in
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the theater, to the point where the little kid next
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to you says to their mommy, Mommy, the people next
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: to me are crying. Then it's very hard to let
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: go of that.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: You're a you're really selling this movie to me, Jonathan.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's a great movie. But yes, those first two
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: let me put to you. I'll tell you a little story.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: My wife and I we were on a Disney cruise
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and we were getting ready to go on an excursion.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Now we had already seen Up many times, so we're
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: getting ready to go on an excursion. When you go
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: on an excursion, you have to meet in a common
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: area in the ship, and different excursions meet in different spots.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So we were told to meet in this one lounge.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: So we all go and we sit down in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: lounge and as we sit down, Up begins to play,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and everybody in that lounge starts to kind of give
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: side glances to each other and shift nervously in their
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: seats because we're all wondering will the excursion leave before
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: things get tragic in the intro to Up? And the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: answer to that was no, the excursions did not leave,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: And so when we were all getting on the buses,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: we were doing so crying.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that sounds horrible. Why would I want to
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: do that to myself? Jonathan? Can I skip the first
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: ten minutes of Off and just watch the rest?
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: You absolutely can't, because the entire to understand why things
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: are the way they are, you have to have seen
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: those first ten minutes and.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Already understand why they are the way they are. This
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: man had a love of his life and she passed away,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: and it's very sad.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: But it's also very beautiful. And that's why I think, like,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: to me, the first ten minutes of up like, I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: wouldn't change a thing. It is incredibly tragic and emotionally
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: traumatizing and important. It's like, it's like if you were like, well,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: why don't we do Bambi but not have his mom
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: get killed? Cool spoiler by the way, No, how could
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: you know? They're making the live action Bambi, So some
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: people out there may not have seen the original and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: they might not know.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I mean that's true. Maybe maybe something different will have
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll think the mom died in the in the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: live action remake, but she'll actually be alive, and that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: would be the best remake ever.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I think the important thing to realize is that Carl
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: should have died a widow, a widower, and never gone
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: on another date. Ever.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Again, that's so flipp and mean, Jonathan.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I mean she deserved better, man.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Anyhow, Oh maybe maybe Earth also deserves better. In Disney
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: and Pixar's new feature Ilio Ellio, Ilio Elio about a
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: young boy who accidentally, well he's not act deadly abducted.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: He's purposefully abducted by aliens, but it's due to a
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: mis understanding and communication about how Earth works.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: On the the aliens assume that Alio is the leader
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: when they're like take me to your leader kind of stuff.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: They think he's the one, and although he attempts to
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: explain that that's not the case, he rapidly backtracks when
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: he discovers that that if they don't think he's the one,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: things are going to go poorly for him.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're This trailer looks pretty cute to me.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like a mix between Men in Black
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: and like the prequel Senate scenes from Star Wars. Yeah,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: but there's some like surprisingly dark little moments in it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: They aren't scary, but they're definitely like dark humor in
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: this trailer that really one of the aliens talks about
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: consuming its parental figure, which is not unheard of in
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the animal world, but a little a little disturbing when
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you hear it from Assension talking being.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he also explains that that's not something
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: his species normally does. It's just it's just sort of
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the hymn thing.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's extra creepy though.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That's why it's a joke.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Like it surprised me, honestly, that was in a Disney
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Pixar movie.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: But we so it reminds me of a couple of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: things too. So it reminds me a little bit of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Laser Team, which was from Rooster Teeth, and that the
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: plot of that is that aliens come down, like they
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: send a suit of powered armor to Earth that's meant
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: to go to a specific champion, but instead this group
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: of idiots for idiots accidentally ends up each putting on
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: a part of the armor and it bonds with each
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: of them and they have to become the Earth champion
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: based on an alien. And then it also reminds me
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: of an episode of a British sci fi comedy series
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: called Hyperdrive, which is sort of good and sort of not,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: like it's it's okay. It's it's got Nick Frost in
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: it and he's great in it, but the scripts are
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: just okay for the most part. But anyway, there's an
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: episode where people's people are put into peril for the
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: like entertainment of aliens. They're like viewing it like it's
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: reality TV. So it's it's making me think of kind
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: of those things too.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can totally see that. Honestly, it looks
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: it looks pretty cute. It does have a very rounded
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: art style, so like Luca good dinosaur style to it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ideas are not like photorealistic humans in.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: This one, No, but it looks charming kind of.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Also reminds me a little bit of of the style
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: of like Turning Red.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, definitely the style of Turning Red, which I quite enjoyed.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: So hopefully Ilia will be just as awesome. Something else
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that looks I guess charming is the right word. It
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: looks charming to me is Pnemona.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this trailer is for Netflix Films, based off a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: graphic novel, and it looks really amusing and entertaining to me.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Basic premise is that it's a well it's a computer
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: animated film, just like Elo and the Atrocity. That is
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Carl's Date and Naemona is about a young woman who
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: is a shape shifter and is ready to be a villain,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: like the world has treated her poorly and she's just
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: she's chomping at the bit to be a bad guy.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: She just needs a bigger bad guy to latch onto
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: and become a sidekick, and she thinks she's found one.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Only that bad guy doesn't consider himself to be a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: bad guy. He feels like he's completely misunderstood and has
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: been framed, and so it's kind of a mismatched buddy
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: comedy sort of thing. And it looks, it looks really good.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Did you say chomping at the bit because she shape
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: shifts into various animals.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I also called her a shape shifter,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: but yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but chomping at the bit anyhow, like you could
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: shape shift into different people, you could just be odo
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: from deep sets.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. We see her initially shape shift
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: into a rhinoceros. Everything she turns into is pinkish, by
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the way, Yeah.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Which is adorable. From reading the description of the show
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit, it's possible that the person that she
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: gloms onto is actually hunting her. Well we'll see, Like
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that's not a certainty, but yeah, it looks. It looks
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: a little edgy, a little cheeky, and very cute. And
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I almost didn't watch this trailer, but then you put
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it in our lineup and I'm really really glad you did.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Like it was one of those things
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: where at the last minute I just happened to notice
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: it when I is trolling YouTube and I saw that
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: and I thought, well, I'll give it a try, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: as I watched it, I thought, this is this is
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it looks really good, Like the animation looks
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: really good and like to the level of quality that
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I would associate with something like a Pixar But it's
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: not a Pixar film, And uh yeah, that's what really
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: dro you know, pulled me into it initially. And I
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: like the character designs too. I thought the character designs
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: looked really fun. So I'm glad that I'm glad checked
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: it out. I do look forward to seeing that.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Right next, we're going to talk about Landscape with an
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Invisible Hand, which is a movie that, uh is going
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: back to the whole alien thing again. Yes, it's like
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: a it. The trailer reads like a lighthearted teeny bopper
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Black Mirror or an episode of The Orville.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, yeah, I can totally get the Black Mirror vibes. Yeah,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: the the gimmick as you discover in the trailer, like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: it's first set up like it's a teenage romantic comedy,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: coming of age kind of film, but then as it
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: plays on, you realize, like these kids are actually you know,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: maybe they once had a genuine crush on each other,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: but they've kind of moved away from that. However, the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: human race is under the uh I was gonna say thumb,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: but really it's like sucker Pad of these weird alien
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: critters that watch humans for entertainment, and they find romance
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: particularly fascinating to watch because it isn't something that they
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: naturally experience. And so these two people are now essentially
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: putting on a show of having a relationship in order
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: to get paid. Essentially, it's almost like being a live streamer,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: except instead of streaming games or chat or whatever, your
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: streaming your relationship with someone else. And if the aliens
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: find it entertaining and entrancing, they pay for it. And
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: it it's got some really interesting ideas, and it's also
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: presented in a way like it doesn't come across like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: it's a science fiction film in the style of the trailer.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes across as like a teeny bobber film.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: It is interesting. So I think I think that people
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: stream their lives in general, but it's that, as one
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: of the other characters in the trailer I think calls
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: it courtship drama gets the higher payout. So these two
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: teenagers pretend to be in love it also seems like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: maybe they fall in love trying to fix their fix
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: their mistake, or maybe they just discover that they're really
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: good friends. And maybe the Aliens. Now now I'm just
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: going into a theory on it, maybe the aliens discover
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: that friendship is is the best magic of all. I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe we find out the aliens were inside us the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: whole time. Oh, just like in the movie Aliens.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want one of those crab flipper people inside
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: of me.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Oh no, once they get big enough, they burst out.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: So Jonathan Gross, Okay, but you've seen the alien movies. Yes,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: but I don't like My body is not the cinema
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: in which these aliens need to watch their drama. But
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: it is interesting because also The Orville did have an
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: episode on this where they go to a planet where
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: everybody's lives are basically live streamed, and then like people
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: get up votes and down votes, and if you get
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: too many down votes then they think.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: They like execute you or they lock you up or something.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of a concept that's been played
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: with before, but it is a kind of a fun
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: new take on it. Like, honestly, seeing these goofy pink
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: aliens as the creatures that are holding the control. Like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: that surprised me.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they don't look particularly threatening. They look weird,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: but not like menacing. But yeah, again reminds me of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that Hyperdrive episode. This is not an ad for Hyperdrive.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think you should seek out Hyperdrive and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: watch it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Are they paying you, Jonathan to say no, No, they
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: aren't paying me.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think it. I don't think it's even like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I watched it when it was on Netflix, but I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: think it's been off Netflix for years at this point.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I believe I did at one point consider possibly importing
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: some DVDs and just playing them on a region free
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: player because they're almost good enough. Like like, I think
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: of it as being kind of akin to Red Dwarf.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Like I think Red Dwarf is a show that has
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: huge cultural impact in the UK, but it's not nearly
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: as good as people who are fans of it like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to think.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently you can stream it on Prime video. It
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: probably it might have a cost to it, but you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: can stream it on Prime Video.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Gotcha? Well, how about how about we move away from
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: aliens and we talk about dark conspiracies that we don't
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: fully understand with they Clone Tyrone.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, Oh I'm sorry.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I totally skipped over one, didn't I you did.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, but there are aliens in the new
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Foundation trailer.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: You know what, Let's do Foundation and then we'll go
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to They Clone Tyrone because then we'll start getting into
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: the horror stuff. Anyway, Okay, but I'm not cutting this out.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: We're just going with it.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: It's hard. I need like a signal, except for we've
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: both turned our cameras off, so you can't be like, yeah,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: keep you can't give me like that directorial. Keep rolling.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: We're still rolling. Thing.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Ariel, tell me about Foundation season two before
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I go off script and talk about they Clone Tyrone.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it probably does have to do with conspiracy theories,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: but it is an outer space and it does have
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: aliens the end.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you still we Neither of us have watched
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: the first season of Foundation right now, Okay, no.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: But it is it is high on my list because
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: like the first season looked, and again I didn't watch
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: it, it looked much more like Dune esque in like the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: outer space soap opera drama ish kind of realm and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: season two feels a lot more from the trailer again,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: feels a lot more like actiony and sci fi and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: they're maybe like they it's like Dune meets Dragon Rids
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: of Hearne. I'm not entirely sure, but there's aliens and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fun sci fi type
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: things in the trailer that make me want to go,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: want to watch it and see what is happening.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe you don't remember this either, but I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: want to say that when we were talking about Foundation
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: before that, we were chatting about how at least some
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: of that because again neither of us have watched it,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: and I haven't read the Foundation series, did you?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I did not know, Okay, because from my understanding is
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the first season doesn't super follow it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. Yeah, that was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: my recollection was that when we talked about Foundation, part
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: of what the response was was that the first season
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: was a lot of setup but did not actually seem
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: to follow the original books. So maybe season two is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: getting into that. It's hard to say because since neither
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: of us have read it, and neither of us watched
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: the first season, we are as in the dark about
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: this as we can possibly be.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, when I watched it, I mean I do
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: like Asimov, who is the writer. Originally when I was like, oh,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: this kind of looks like what does it look like
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to me for comparison? And I was going to say
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: that it looks like the Expanse, but that is literally
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: only because Jared Harris is in both of them.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that it had like in my brain,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I kept getting it mixed up with enders game, even
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: though I wouldn't say that they they uh you know,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: resembled one another apart from the fact that they're both
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: science fiction stories.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's got that same sort of like adventure
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: dark but not too dark feel, although that could be
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: a completely wrong read ER's game is pretty dark, but
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: it's very palatable dark.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, since we have little useful information to impart
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: about Foundation season two, how about we move on to
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the horror of Dolores. Nob kidding, we're gonna do they
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: cloned Tyrone?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, you can jump wherever you want to.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I've got our spreadsheet open, Jonathan and I will just
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: yes and you till the cows come home.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all horror from here on out.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, because we already talked about Lamplighter's dang it,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and it goes from least scary to most because honestly,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: they cloned Tyrone. Looks more like a dark comedy than
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: a horror to me.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it looks like it looks like they
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: took some elements of black exploitation films like which obviously
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: we've seen a whole bunch of resurgence of that kind
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: of stuff in recent years, right where it's that that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: sort of seventies era black action, black horror movie type
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: of films that were really popular and were exploitative, that's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: why they were called black exploitation. But now it's done
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: in a very like tongue in cheek knowing way in
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the more recent versions that we're getting, and it has
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: an element of that, probably possibly because Jamie Fox is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: playing a pimp, an actual pimp in the in the film,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: and yeah, there's like a conspiracy element. It kind of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: has like invasion of the body Snatcher's energy because people
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: are being replaced by clones, which also gets into some
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: other fairly recent horror slash science fiction movies that I'm
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: not gonna mention by name because it's kind of like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: the big reveal of those movies, and if you still
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: haven't seen one, I don't want to ruin it for you.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I think I know what movie you're talking about, but
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about it offline. Yeah, it's it's interesting. It
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: does look interesting. I Uh. At first, I thought, like,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: are all the clones the main three characters or they
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: just still clones to different people and they clone Tyrone.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's clones of lots of different people and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: it's just that Tyrone encounters his own clone and that's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: what tips them off that there's something sinister going on.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: And you find out like that there are in very
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: mundane places like say a convenience store, there are secret
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: entrances to like underground facilities where this stuff is happening.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, there's something about it
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: that just is really like kind of wacky, but not outright.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: It's just full on comedy that that strikes me as
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: the a good balance. So I'm very intrigued by this trailer.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I am too. Also, John Boyega is in it, and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: he it took me a second to realize it was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: John Boyega. He looks very different from how I'm used
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: to seeing him.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and he's doing an American accent too, He's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: not he's not speaking in his normal British accent.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: That will always throw me. It will always throw me,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: even if I have good facial recognition, I'll be like,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: am I wrong because you're your an American accent sometimes, like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: an American accent. If it's not done right, I'll pick
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: up on it. It gets really annoying sometimes because especially
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: if you've got like an Australian actor who hasn't learned
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: to put the g's and I say this, I make
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: mistakes on my accent work all the time because it's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: not native to me. And unless I'm spending hours and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: hours dissecting the script and figuring out how to pronounce everything,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess up. But a lot of Australian actors,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: for instance, will if they've got a word ending in
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I say any like anything, you know in America we
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: say anything. Australian say anything, yeah, And it will always
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: tick me off.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: And so you also get like specifically in the UK,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: when UK people in England are doing American accents, they
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: tend to hit the rs atle too hard.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was about to say the same thing. Yeah,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: it's a or they tend to go a little bit
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like New York by accident.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like if you listen, if you watch the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: first season of House, for example, as great as Hugh
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Laurie is, like when you hear him hit those rs,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: or watch Doctor Strange and been at cumber Batch when
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: they're saying words that end with an eer, they hit
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: those rs super hard.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It it almost gives it this weird It's the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: opposite of like Transatlantic, but it gives the same feel.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh So, anyway, I still think that that trailer
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: was a good one. I'm looking forward to seeing that movie.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: You know. It definitely caught my attention. And the next
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: one also got my attention. It's another kind of dark
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: comedy horror movie called The Horror of Dolores Roach, and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: the trailer introduces us to Dolores, who is a woman
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: who is in prison. She's gotten out. She's trying to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: land a job. She's having a lot of trouble doing it.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: She's getting the run around, and she has a friend
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: who gives her the chance to have her own kind
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: of massage therapy business because he's trying to help her out.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: She I guess. She gives him a massage one day
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: and he's like, Oh, this is good enough for you
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: to do professionally, even though you don't haven't been trained
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: in it, So she starts getting massage work. Then this
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: is all in the trailer, so I'm not giving anything away,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: but she is assaulted essentially by a client who is
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: trying to get her to do more than what she
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: is advertising, and she ends up killing him. And then
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: she is horrified to learn that her friend is more
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: than happy to help her dispose of the body, and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: then she suspects that that disposal might be very you
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: know Sweeny Toddish.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and fanatas I don't like cannibalism stories, I realize
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen Sweeney Todd and I've listened to the music,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and I even liked Josh Grobn's performance in The Tony's
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  Speaker 1: But for some reason, when I have to watch it
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in a TV show or a movie, it super squeaks
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: me out, and no change here is like, maybe I'll
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: like it because I really like because I like Sweeney
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Todd and because I really really like Justina Machado, who
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I know her mostly from being the mom in the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: reboot of One Day at a Time, but I don't know.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: It started turning my stomach by the end of the trailer.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Jonathan, Oh, gosh, see, I just thought it was like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: darkly comedic, and I'm totally on board.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like cannibalism stories. I really really don't.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got their thing, you know, there's nothing wrong with that, Like,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: you know, having something that you're not you're not cool with.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: There's there's that's totally legit. Our friend Shay, for example,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: would hate the next movie that's on our list. Not
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: that I'm jumping down there yet, but she really has
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: a thing about like demonic possession movies. She really does
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: not like those. They really bother her. And so I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: don't think there's anything wrong with having like that. That
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: one thing that you just can't stand see. For me,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it typically is anything that's in the torture porn category,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: like Hostile or Saw, like those movies where the horror
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: is mostly in how much physical mutilation can we visit
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: upon a character before we ultimately kill that character off
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm not interested in those movies. Those don't
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: do anything for me. I don't find them entertaining. I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: just find them like upsetting and not in a way
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: where I'm like thoughtful about it. It's just upsetting, Like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: there's nothing artful or creative in my mind of those
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: kinds of movies. So I'm not a big fan this
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: one because of the kind of dark comedy nature of
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: it I am interested in. But I totally get it,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Like there's, you know, nothing wrong with having a hard
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: out for specific types of content.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's gotten harder over the years as like
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: as I get older, I'm like, I just don't have
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: room in my life for this particular content anymore. And
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that's really fine, Like you said, but we should jump
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: onto the next trailer because we're running pretty long. Yeah,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: you've got something important to say.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: All I was gonna say, Ariel, is that I learned
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that this was really a sticking point for you the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: last I litit you and said what's eating you? And
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: you decked me.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, now, we've known eature other long
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: enough you should have known better.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: And to be fair, I deserved it before I even
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: opened my mouth.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: So that's not true. You're a delightful friend, thank you.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Unlike this next trailer, which was not a delightful friend
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Nor were any of the friends in the trailer delightful
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: to each other. So we already watched a teaser trailer
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: for this or an early trailer for this movie. It's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: called Talk to Me. This is the movie where a
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: group of young are they supposed to be teens or
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: are they young adults?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I think teenagers, but it's unclear.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all played by young adults, but maybe they're
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: supposed to be teenagers. But it's that one where they've
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: got like this weird like it looks like a mannequin
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: hand with cymbals drawn all over it, a left hand,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: by the way, and you are to clasp the hand
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: and say talk to me, and then you are briefly
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: possessed by a spirit who then can communicate. So it's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: sort of like using a Wigi board, acceptancetead of a
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Wigi board, it's this hand. And you know, we saw
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: the first trailer that things go wrong, that the possession
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: ends up extending beyond the time it's supposed to happen,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: and that this thing that kids are playing with has
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: now become deadly, and that first trailer I thought was okay,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't really feel a need to see the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: movie after watching it because I just didn't grab me,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: so to speak. But this one I thought was way
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: more effective and way creepier.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: So now you do you feel like you need to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: watch it?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Is that because you're left handed and you really relate
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: to being vilified for being left handed?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Well, we are also known as the sinister ones because
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: sinister is old French for left So yes.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't catch that so good on Husually, I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: didn't catch it was a left hand, but that that's clever.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, So what did you think that since I made
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: you watch this?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna admit I watched it on one point
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: five time speed because you put in our notes super scary.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I I thought the acting in it was really good.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Like the main girl who the main character who carries
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the possession longer than she's supposed to, although I'm sure
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: it's more than just her, but the main character just
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: portrayed the various peaks and valleys she went through in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: the journey of her character and the trailer very well.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I thought, in a way that was like believable, but
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: not heavy hand and not heavy handed it The concept
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: honestly is both scary and also a little like why
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: why would you do that? Like I don't know, I
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes I get that with horror movies. I'm
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: just like, why are these people doing this thing?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's to me. To me, it's it is
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: an extension of the whole like friends getting together and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: doing like like the like the campground creepy stuff. Whether
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: it's it's you know, a Ouiji board, which truly isn't creepy.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: It's made by Hasbro. Come on, it's it's a board game. Essentially,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: it's based off spirit boards, which I guess are arguably
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: slightly more creepy because it's not like, oh I accidentally
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: grabbed the Ouija board instead of Monopoly, but like, it
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: also reminds me of things like when kids would play
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: stiff as a board, light as a feather, that kind
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: of thing, and like it's it's a it's obviously a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: step further than that, right. It's because because everyone who's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: involved in this appears to understand that this is a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: real phenomenon. They're not like, they're not like just staring
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: at a mirror and saying bloody Mary, and they they're
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent sure nothing's going to happen. Five percent
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: is doubting it. They know something's gonna happen, which definitely
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: pushes it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing for me is it's like, okay, I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: played almost as landed some born stiff as a feather.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it never worked for me.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that it never worked for me.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: But that's because I love my tacos.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I mean same, I was. I've always been at least tall.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I used to be skinny and tall, but my friends
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: were never really able to lift me up with their fingertips.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: It took way too many of them to do it.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I had to have a palette driver lift me up.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: So I hear you.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: But but that's the thing is, it's.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Like it's too far. It's pushing too too far.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: It's too far. Yeah, that's that's it, because I'm like,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: you know, you see this is bad. It's like it's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: like I know this is bad. I'm seeing these very
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: legitimate proof facts of this thing happening. So it's no
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: longer a game, and it's just like, how like I
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: guess it's like playing chicken.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, no, I see what you're saying,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Like I totally. I think I think that's gonna be
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: the factor where you either buy into it or you don't,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Like you have to buy into this. Would there be
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: such a case where people would encounter something that is
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: clearly malevolent, clearly supernatural, clearly actually is happening, and yet
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: they would still engage in that activity for fun, kind
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: of in a in a truth or Dare sort of
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: situation where you're you know, you're one you're trying to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: prove to everybody else that you're brave enough to do it,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: or two you just find it amusing, like that is
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: pushing it super super far. And if you are able
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: to go with that and say like, Okay, I'm all
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: right with that, I mean, I don't think this would
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: really play out that way, but I'm okay, then I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: think you could kind of engage with the movie. But
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: if you're looking at and you're like, this doesn't even
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: strike me as being remotely realistic. I mean, take all
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: the supernatural stuff out, but like, if something were this
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: truly known to be this dangerous, it doesn't make sense
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: to me that characters would seek it out for fun.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's a legit like thing to balk at
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: it's just for me. Like, since I love so many
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: different horror movies and I've seen so many really bad ones,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: this one looks like, Yes, the premise itself is faulty,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: but the execution looks like it might be really good.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. Like I said, the acting was
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: very good. It was very it was it wasn't too hammy,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: which can often be a problem with horror movies, to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: try to hammer home the kind of the bizarreness of
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: the situation. And that is the last thing we have
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: to talk about, and we should wrap it up because
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: this has been a very long episode.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, it has been a very long episode, and so
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: it is time for us to end the show, which
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Ariel has to launch into.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. I've been Eric Jonathan. How
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: can people reach out to us if they have thoughts
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: on horror movies or cute cartoons or any of the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: things that we've talked about.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Well, to reach me, you're going to need to go
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: and take a walk on an early morning, just as
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the sun is coming up. Gonna walk down the lane,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: listening carefully, and if you hear a call, that's then
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: you know you have just heard the bird that pooped
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: on me this morning. And your job is to climb
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: a tree and catch that bird, take it back home,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: and slap a diaper on it, and say you know
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: why this is happening. And then you can go and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: release the bird, unharmed but diapered, so that it never
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: again can poop upon my person. And three days later
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you'll hear a knock at your door and it'll be me,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: and I'll say, I know what you did, and I
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. What's your question?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I you know, I really like that because I was
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: afraid ending on a horror note, it would also end
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: on a horror note. Thank you, Jonathan, you are a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: kind hearted soul to help this poor bird's incontinent in continents.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: If you don't like birds, or you can't climb trees,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: or you just don't have any diapers lying around, you
• 1:24:20
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• 1:24:22
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• 1:24:25
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• 1:24:29
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• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks again. I'll get those up this weekend.
• 1:24:45
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• 1:24:48
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• 1:24:51
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  Speaker 2: Yes, until next time, I'm Jonathan, I'm covered in Strickland.
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