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- 0:03Speaker 1: On the morning of May fifth, two thousand nine, Beverly
- 0:07Speaker 1: Campbell was running a road grader along Route nine when
- 0:10Speaker 1: she spotted two objects on the shoulder. Three inches of
- 0:13Speaker 1: rain had fallen in the prior forty eight hours. Everything
- 0:17Speaker 1: on that road should have been soaked. The objects were dry.
- 0:21Speaker 1: That was the first impossible thing. Beverly stopped the machine
- 0:25Speaker 1: and climbed down. The first object was a leather medical
- 0:28Speaker 1: id bracelet, clasp intact, clean on both sides, reading Kathleen steam.
- 0:36Speaker 1: The second was a surgical consent form, folded in thirds,
- 0:40Speaker 1: dry enough to handle without it tearing, printed on vantage
- 0:45Speaker 1: Surgical Group letterhead. She called it in. Within hours, investigators
- 0:50Speaker 1: were on Route nine. Within days, they were trying to
- 0:54Speaker 1: understand how a fifty four year old woman had ended
- 0:57Speaker 1: up at the center of something that had been building
- 0:59Speaker 1: quiet and methodically for more than three years. What they
- 1:03Speaker 1: uncovered was not a sudden act. It was a system,
- 1:08Speaker 1: a very patient one. Pelham Crossing is the kind of
- 1:11Speaker 1: town where your neighbor waves when you back out of
- 1:14Speaker 1: the driveway, not because they know you especially well, but
- 1:18Speaker 1: because that is what people do. Kathleen Stein had lived
- 1:23Speaker 1: and worked in that rhythm for two decades. She was
- 1:27Speaker 1: fifty four years old in the spring of two thousand
- 1:31Speaker 1: and nine. For twenty one years, she had been a
- 1:34Speaker 1: records manager at the Pelham Crossing School District, the kind
- 1:37Speaker 1: of position that requires an almost compulsive attention to detail.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Her supervisor, Paul vargu would later describe her as someone
- 1:45Speaker 1: who never missed a deadline and never left a file incomplete.
- 1:49Speaker 1: That precision was not a quirk, it was the organizing
- 1:53Speaker 1: principle of her life. Her Thursdays had a shape to them.
- 1:57Speaker 1: After work, she drove her Beije Subah along Route nine
- 2:01Speaker 1: to Henley's Diner, slid into the corner booth, and ordered
- 2:06Speaker 1: the same thing every week. Large coffee, one sugar, short stack,
- 2:12Speaker 1: real butter not Margarine. The waitress, Patrese odem knew the
- 2:17Speaker 1: order before Kathleen reached the booth. That ritual had been
- 2:21Speaker 1: running long enough that Patrice knew which Thursday's Kathleen was
- 2:24Speaker 1: tired and which ones she was not, just by how
- 2:28Speaker 1: fast she took off her coat. Kathleen's sister, Donna Pruitt,
- 2:32Speaker 1: lived close enough that they spoke several times a week.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Kathleen was also the first person Donna called when anything
- 2:38Speaker 1: went wrong, and the last person she expected to stop
- 2:41Speaker 1: calling back. That is the Kathleen Stein who existed before
- 2:46Speaker 1: January two thousand and six. The story of how that
- 2:49Speaker 1: version of her was systematically taken apart begins with a
- 2:52Speaker 1: flat tire on Root nine, setting in motion a chain
- 2:56Speaker 1: of events that would unravel her life. It was a
- 2:59Speaker 1: weekday more wing. Kathleen's beige Subaru had gone flat near
- 3:04Speaker 1: the Route nine shoulder. A man pulled over and helped
- 3:07Speaker 1: her change it. He was polite, calm, unhurried. Before he left,
- 3:13Speaker 1: he introduced himself. His name was Chad Davis. He was
- 3:17Speaker 1: forty one years old, board certified in plastic and reconstructive
- 3:21Speaker 1: surgery and a member of Vantage Surgical Group, where he
- 3:25Speaker 1: had worked since two thousand three. He mentioned that he
- 3:29Speaker 1: sometimes offered discounted consultations to patients who had been through
- 3:33Speaker 1: unexpected situations. He gave her a card. A few weeks later,
- 3:37Speaker 1: Kathleen called. The first appointment was unremarkable. Davis identified a
- 3:43Speaker 1: small lesion on her forearm and recommended removal as a
- 3:46Speaker 1: prophylactic measure. The procedure was minor, the billing was modest.
- 3:52Speaker 1: The follow up was warm and thorough He answered every
- 3:56Speaker 1: question she had, including ones she had not thought to ask.
- 4:00Speaker 1: He was, by every account she gave later, attentive in
- 4:04Speaker 1: a way that felt unusual, like he was genuinely tracking her.
- 4:09Speaker 1: That feeling was not wrong. He was. By the end
- 4:12Speaker 1: of two thousand seven, Kathleen had undergone six procedures at Vantage,
- 4:17Speaker 1: two excisions a rhinoplasty, an eyelid correction, and two described
- 4:22Speaker 1: in billing records as structural maintenance. Each one followed from
- 4:27Speaker 1: the last with an internal logic, Davis supplied. Each one
- 4:31Speaker 1: was framed not as elective, but as preventive or corrective,
- 4:36Speaker 1: or the reasonable next step in a care plan he
- 4:38Speaker 1: was building specifically for her. She was not a patient
- 4:42Speaker 1: receiving isolated treatments. She was in the framing Davis constructed,
- 4:46Speaker 1: some one being managed. Donna Pruitt noticed changes. She voiced
- 4:51Speaker 1: concern more than once about the pace of the procedures
- 4:54Speaker 1: and about how much of Kathleen's attention and money seemed
- 4:57Speaker 1: to be flowing in one direction. Cath Leen's response after
- 5:01Speaker 1: long follow up appointments with Davis was consistent. Donna was worried, yes,
- 5:07Speaker 1: but Donna did not fully understand what preventive care looked
- 5:11Speaker 1: like in practice. Davis had spent time during those appointments
- 5:15Speaker 1: gently reframing Donna's questions as evidence of misunderstanding, not alarm.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Each time Kathleen left the office having been given a
- 5:24Speaker 1: new way to explain to her sister why everything was fine.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Each time, the calls between them grew a little shorter.
- 5:31Speaker 1: By two thousand eight, Kathleen had undergone ten procedures total. Then,
- 5:36Speaker 1: in November of that year, Davis told her that the
- 5:39Speaker 1: food at her regular diner posed a risk to her recovery.
- 5:43Speaker 1: He described certain ingredients as inflammatory. He recommended she find alternatives.
- 5:49Speaker 1: While she was between procedures, Kathleen stopped going to Henley's
- 5:53Speaker 1: on Thursdays. Patris Odum noticed after a few weeks. She
- 5:56Speaker 1: assumed Kathleen had simply found somewhere else to eat. The
- 6:00Speaker 1: corner booth stayed empty for fourteen weeks. No one connected
- 6:05Speaker 1: it to anything, Yet that fact lived inside Henley's Diner
- 6:09Speaker 1: as ordinary disappointment. A regular who had simply moved on,
- 6:13Speaker 1: no alarm, no phone call, just an empty seat, and
- 6:17Speaker 1: a waitress who stopped saving it. But Kathleen had not
- 6:21Speaker 1: moved on. She had been redirected. By two thousand eight,
- 6:25Speaker 1: the financial picture had begun to take a shape that
- 6:28Speaker 1: would only become legible in hindsight. Transfers from Kathleen's savings
- 6:34Speaker 1: account started in July of two thousand seven. They ranged
- 6:38Speaker 1: from fourteen hundred to thirty eight hundred dollars. No single
- 6:43Speaker 1: transfer reached five thousand dollars. That ceiling was not accidental.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Five thousand dollars is the federal reporting threshold for cash transactions.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Each amount stayed just below it. Over twenty two months,
- 6:58Speaker 1: those transfers totalled sick sixty three thousand dollars. Some of
- 7:02Speaker 1: those payments appeared in Vantage Surgical Groups billing records, others
- 7:07Speaker 1: did not. The ones that did not were routed through
- 7:10Speaker 1: a separate entity, Northgate Health Consulting LLC. Investigators later found
- 7:15Speaker 1: that Northgate had a registered address at a mailbox in
- 7:19Speaker 1: a strip mall, no website, no staff, no physical office.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Its sole member was Chad Davis. That is the first
- 7:27Speaker 1: image that refuses to stay still. A shell company attached
- 7:31Speaker 1: to a respected surgeon, operating invisibly alongside a licensed practice.
- 7:36Speaker 1: What was it for? That question had no clean answer yet,
- 7:40Speaker 1: but the transfers kept coming, and the procedures kept multiplying,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and inside both of those facts was a structure that
- 7:48Speaker 1: was not visible to Kathleen at all. By spring of
- 7:52Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, the procedure count had reached seventeen.
- 7:56Speaker 1: The seventeenth was a cervical lepectomy. It was not scheduled
- 8:00Speaker 1: in Vantage's system. It was not logged in any licensed
- 8:04Speaker 1: operating room in the county. According to records reviewed later,
- 8:09Speaker 1: it was performed around May fifth, two thousand and nine,
- 8:13Speaker 1: in an unlicensed setting with one assistant whose identity was
- 8:18Speaker 1: never fully verified by investigators. On the evening of May third,
- 8:23Speaker 1: Kathleen's neighbor, Stacy Elmore, watched her get into a silver
- 8:28Speaker 1: sedan outside her house. That was the last confirmed sighting
- 8:32Speaker 1: of Kathleen Stein for two weeks. Two days later, Beverly
- 8:36Speaker 1: Campbell was driving a road grad along Route nine at
- 8:39Speaker 1: approximately six point fifteen in the morning. The area had
- 8:43Speaker 1: received three inches of rain in the prior forty eight hours.
- 8:47Speaker 1: The shoulder was soaked. Campbell noticed two objects sitting on
- 8:50Speaker 1: the gravel edge. She stopped the machine and climbed out.
- 8:54Speaker 1: The first object was a leather medical id bracelet. The
- 8:57Speaker 1: clasp was intact. The leather was clean. It read Kathleen Stayin.
- 9:03Speaker 1: The second object was a folded document, a surgical consent
- 9:06Speaker 1: form on VANTAGE Surgical Group letterhead authorization date April twenty seventh,
- 9:13Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Both objects were dry. Beverly Campbell picked
- 9:17Speaker 1: them up and reported what she had found. The document
- 9:21Speaker 1: was examined by forensic document examiner Walter Bryce, retained by
- 9:25Speaker 1: the state. Kathleen's signature on the consent form was authenticated.
- 9:30Speaker 1: It was genuinely hers, but the witness line the space
- 9:33Speaker 1: requiring a second signature to confirm the patient's voluntary consent
- 9:37Speaker 1: had been signed with initials that did not match any
- 9:41Speaker 1: VANTAGE staff member on record. The consent form authorized the
- 9:45Speaker 1: seventeenth procedure. Here is where the image loop shifts. Investigators
- 9:50Speaker 1: had a dry bracelet, a signed consent form, and a
- 9:53Speaker 1: woman who had vanished The form was real. Her signature
- 9:56Speaker 1: confirmed The logical reading was straightforward. Kathleen had signed, had
- 10:02Speaker 1: perhaps changed her mind, had left the objects on the
- 10:05Speaker 1: road herself as she walked away from something she no
- 10:07Speaker 1: longer wanted. That reading held for exactly as long as
- 10:11Speaker 1: it took to check the rain. Three inches of rain
- 10:14Speaker 1: over forty eight thous The shoulder of Root nine is elevated,
- 10:20Speaker 1: it drains faster than the surrounding ground. Beverly Campbell reached
- 10:24Speaker 1: those objects approximately forty minutes after the rain stopped. The
- 10:28Speaker 1: elevation and drainage rate meant a dry object placed before
- 10:33Speaker 1: the rain would not have survived drawn an object placed
- 10:36Speaker 1: after the rain stopped and found forty minutes later could
- 10:40Speaker 1: be dry. The placement was precise, it was recent, and
- 10:44Speaker 1: it was on Route nine, the exact stretch of road
- 10:47Speaker 1: where in January of two thousand and six Kathleen Stein
- 10:52Speaker 1: had a flat tire and a man named Chad Davis
- 10:56Speaker 1: stopped to help her. The location was not incidental, it
- 11:00Speaker 1: was the origin point. County Die's office brought in Carl Paget,
- 11:04Speaker 1: a licensed clinical social worker who had spent years as
- 11:08Speaker 1: a victim advocate. His job was specific explain why a
- 11:12Speaker 1: woman who had undergone seventeen procedures, transferred sixty three thousand
- 11:17Speaker 1: dollars and been isolated from her sister had never filed
- 11:21Speaker 1: a report. Paget reviewed the record and arrived at a
- 11:24Speaker 1: term procedurally induced learned helplessness. Each procedure had required Kathleen
- 11:30Speaker 1: to defer her judgment to Davis. Each transfer had been
- 11:33Speaker 1: framed as an investment in her care. Each time Donna
- 11:37Speaker 1: raised concern, and Kathleen left Davis's office having been given
- 11:41Speaker 1: new language to redirect that concern. The loop tightened. By
- 11:44Speaker 1: the end, Kathleen's capacity to assess her own condition from
- 11:49Speaker 1: outside the framework Davis had built around her had been
- 11:53Speaker 1: so thoroughly eroded that the framework itself felt like reality.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Paget's second task was harder. He pulled the patient files
- 12:01Speaker 1: Davis had brought from his previous position. Inside them, he
- 12:05Speaker 1: found a name, Louise Archer. Archer had been a VANTAGE
- 12:09Speaker 1: patient from two thousand one to two thousand four. She
- 12:13Speaker 1: had undergone eleven procedures. In two thousand five, she filed
- 12:18Speaker 1: a civil complaint, which was settled confidentially. The complaint could
- 12:22Speaker 1: not support criminal charges at the time. Investigators later described
- 12:26Speaker 1: the record as having insufficient explainability, But the account Archer
- 12:31Speaker 1: gave years later when Paget contacted her, was almost sentence
- 12:36Speaker 1: for sentence identical to Kathleen's opportunistic first contact. Escalating procedures,
- 12:43Speaker 1: financial transfers, family isolated. Davis had relocated partly to put
- 12:48Speaker 1: distance between himself and the two thousand five settlement. Picture
- 12:53Speaker 1: the shoulder of Route nine at roughly five thirty in
- 12:55Speaker 1: the morning on May fifth. The rain has just stopped,
- 12:59Speaker 1: The gravel is dark and wet. Someone is moving carefully
- 13:02Speaker 1: along the edge, placing two objects, a bracelet, a folded form,
- 13:08Speaker 1: both of them dry carried inside something. The placement looks
- 13:13Speaker 1: like abandonment. It is designed to look like abandonment. It
- 13:18Speaker 1: is designed to look like abandonment. A woman who consented
- 13:24Speaker 1: then walked away on her own terms. If Kathleen had
- 13:27Speaker 1: walked away freely, those objects would not be there. She
- 13:31Speaker 1: would have taken them with her, or left them in
- 13:34Speaker 1: the car, or not left them at all. Their presence
- 13:37Speaker 1: on the road is not a sign of departure. It
- 13:41Speaker 1: is a stage set. But consider the other version. For
- 13:44Speaker 1: a moment, investigators had to the consent form bore her
- 13:48Speaker 1: real signature, dated April twenty seventh. What if she had
- 13:53Speaker 1: signed willingly, changed her mind in the days that followed,
- 13:56Speaker 1: and placed the items herself as a kind of gesture,
- 14:00Speaker 1: leaving behind the paperwork of a life she was stepping
- 14:03Speaker 1: away from. That version requires her to have been on
- 14:06Speaker 1: Route nine that morning. Her neighbor last saw her on
- 14:09Speaker 1: the evening of May third, entering a silver sedan. She
- 14:13Speaker 1: was not driving, she was a passenger. She had no
- 14:17Speaker 1: confirmed presence anywhere between May third and May seventeenth. That
- 14:22Speaker 1: version collapses the moment you look at what Paget built.
- 14:25Speaker 1: The strongest accounting for every fact in the record runs
- 14:28Speaker 1: like this. Davis performed the seventeenth procedure around May fifth
- 14:33Speaker 1: at an unlicensed location in an adjacent county. He had
- 14:37Speaker 1: used a rented house there as informal post surgical housing. Kathleen,
- 14:42Speaker 1: sedated and unable to act independently, was held there during recovery.
- 14:47Speaker 1: At some point on the morning of May fifth, Davis
- 14:50Speaker 1: drove Route nine. He sent a medical leave e mail
- 14:53Speaker 1: from Kathleen's phone while she was sedated. Investigators found that
- 14:58Speaker 1: e mail. Investigators found that e mail time stamped that
- 15:02Speaker 1: morning written in her name. He placed the bracelet and
- 15:05Speaker 1: the consent form at the exact spot where he had
- 15:07Speaker 1: first met her in two thousand and six. The staging
- 15:10Speaker 1: was precise, the location was deliberate. The consent form was
- 15:14Speaker 1: real because her signature was real obtained while she still
- 15:18Speaker 1: had enough trust in him to sign. The witness line.
- 15:22Speaker 1: The initials that matched no one on staff filled itself
- 15:25Speaker 1: in the paper. Trail was designed to say she consented
- 15:29Speaker 1: and then she left on her own. On May seventeenth,
- 15:33Speaker 1: investigators located Kathleen Stein at the unlicensed house in the
- 15:37Speaker 1: adjacent county. She was disoriented. The surgical wound on her
- 15:41Speaker 1: neck had not healed. She was hospitalized for nine days.
- 15:45Speaker 1: The dry objects on the wet road had not marked
- 15:48Speaker 1: a departure. They had marked exactly where she disappeared. Chad
- 15:52Speaker 1: Davis was arrested in the days following Kathleen's discovery. In June.
- 15:56Speaker 1: He gave a partial confession, acknowledging the procedures, the financial
- 16:00Speaker 1: transfers the unlicensed setting. He did not use the words
- 16:05Speaker 1: fraud or manipulation. Investigators noted the omission. The county d'e
- 16:11Speaker 1: moved on five counts criminal fraud twice over practicing medicine
- 16:16Speaker 1: in an unlicensed setting, unlawful financial exploitation of a vulnerable adult,
- 16:22Speaker 1: fraudulent misrepresentation in a professional capacity. The jury returned guilty
- 16:28Speaker 1: verdicts on all counts. The sentence was eleven years. Louise
- 16:32Speaker 1: Archer flew in to testify. She was forty nine years old.
- 16:36Speaker 1: She had spent years in therapy reconstructing what had happened
- 16:40Speaker 1: to her between two thousand one and two thousand four,
- 16:43Speaker 1: eleven procedures, a civil complaint, a sealed settlement, and then silence.
- 16:50Speaker 1: The silence had protected no one. Her financial records, and
- 16:55Speaker 1: the sealed civil file corroborated everything Carl Paget had found
- 16:59Speaker 1: in his reconstruction. Her testimony placed Davis's method in time.
- 17:04Speaker 1: He had done this before. Kathleen was not the beginning.
- 17:08Speaker 1: The unlicensed assistant who was present during the seventeenth procedure
- 17:12Speaker 1: was never fully identified. That remains unresolved in the public record.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Investigators confirmed a second person was there, they were not
- 17:20Speaker 1: able to verify who. Northgate Health Consulting LC, the shell
- 17:25Speaker 1: entity Davis used to route payments below the five thousand
- 17:28Speaker 1: dollars reporting threshold, was dissolved by the state after conviction.
- 17:33Speaker 1: The mailbox address in the Strip Mall now belongs to
- 17:36Speaker 1: a tax preparation office. Vantage Surgical Group cooperated fully once
- 17:41Speaker 1: investigators presented the evidence. The hospital's internal review board found
- 17:47Speaker 1: no procedural failures in the licensed procedures Davis performed there.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Everything he had done to Kathleen inside a licensed operating
- 17:54Speaker 1: room had been documented correctly. That was the point. The
- 17:58Speaker 1: licensed work was real. The license was the cover the
- 18:02Speaker 1: procedures that mattered, the ones that extracted money and autonomy
- 18:06Speaker 1: and replaced them with dependency. Those were never in any
- 18:10Speaker 1: system Vantage could have flagged the forensic document examiner Walter
- 18:15Speaker 1: Bryce confirmed in court that the witness initials on the
- 18:18Speaker 1: consent form did not match any staff member. Ad Vantage
- 18:22Speaker 1: Davis signed his own patient's consent form as the witness.
- 18:26Speaker 1: The paper trail he built was designed to function as
- 18:29Speaker 1: evidence of her choice. It functioned instead as evidence of his.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Dona Pruet, Kathleen's sister, gave a brief statement after sentencing.
- 18:39Speaker 1: She said she had tried. She said she had watched
- 18:42Speaker 1: some one she loved grow quieter and more distant over
- 18:45Speaker 1: three years and had not known what she was watching.
- 18:48Speaker 1: That statement sits in the record without elaboration. It doesn't
- 18:52Speaker 1: need any. On a Thursday in September two thousand nine,
- 18:56Speaker 1: Kathleen Stein walked into Henley's Diner. She sat in the
- 19:00Speaker 1: corner booth. She ordered a large coffee with one sugar
- 19:04Speaker 1: and a short stack with real butter. The Thursday ritual
- 19:08Speaker 1: was not a small thing. It was the first thing
- 19:11Speaker 1: Davis had taken from her. The diner food was risky,
- 19:15Speaker 1: he had told her in November two thousand and eight,
- 19:17Speaker 1: and she had believed him, And for fourteen weeks the
- 19:20Speaker 1: corner booth sat empty. That booth was the last visible
- 19:24Speaker 1: marker before she disappeared entirely from the life she had built.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Its return meant something that no verdict could fully state.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Carl Paget, in the months after the trial, continued working
- 19:36Speaker 1: with the County d A's office. He noted in a
- 19:39Speaker 1: subsequent consultation that the pattern Davis used had no single
- 19:43Speaker 1: dramatic break, no moment where a reasonable observer could have
- 19:47Speaker 1: pointed and said there, that is where it started. The
- 19:51Speaker 1: escalation was constructed to be invisible from inside it. Each
- 19:55Speaker 1: step followed logically from the last. Each procedure made the
- 20:00Speaker 1: next one easier to accept. Each transfer was small enough
- 20:04Speaker 1: to feel like a medical expense rather than a systematic extraction.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Paget called it procedurally induced learned helplessness. The phrase is precise.
- 20:15Speaker 1: It means that the mechanism used to dismantle Kathleen's sense
- 20:18Speaker 1: of reality was built from the same trust she placed
- 20:21Speaker 1: in the person who was supposed to protect it. Louise
- 20:24Speaker 1: Archer had filed a civil complaint in two thousand and five.
- 20:27Speaker 1: It could not support criminal charges at the time. Investigators
- 20:31Speaker 1: later noted insufficient explainability, meaning the pattern was there but
- 20:35Speaker 1: not yet legible as a pattern. To the institution's reviewing it.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Four years passed. Kathleen met Davis at a flat tire
- 20:43Speaker 1: on Route nine. The system that might have stopped him
- 20:46Speaker 1: had settled quietly and moved on. That is the part
- 20:49Speaker 1: that stays, not the eleven years, not the shell company,
- 20:53Speaker 1: not the dry bracelet on a wet shoulder. The part
- 20:57Speaker 1: that stays is that someone tried to stop him, and
- 21:00Speaker 1: the mechanism that should have carried that forward did not.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Louise Archer agreed to testify anyway. She got on a
- 21:09Speaker 1: plane and sat in a court room and told the
- 21:11Speaker 1: jury what she remembered. That took something that eleven year
- 21:15Speaker 1: sentences cannot create and cannot take away. What Davis dismantled,
- 21:20Speaker 1: piece by piece over three years was Kathleen's ability to
- 21:24Speaker 1: use her own judgment as a reference point. He replaced
- 21:27Speaker 1: her reference points with himself. That is not a dramatic act.
- 21:31Speaker 1: It happens in small rooms, in follow up appointments, in
- 21:35Speaker 1: the careful reframing of a sister's concern as misunderstanding. It
- 21:39Speaker 1: happens until the person inside it cannot see the shape
- 21:42Speaker 1: of what has been built around them. The corner booth
- 21:45Speaker 1: at Henley's Diner was there in September, Kathleen was there.
- 21:49Speaker 1: That is where the record ends, and it is enough.
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