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What the ____ is Goin' on Around Here? - Until Dawn - Part 1 · Replay Reviews

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It's Horror Month, probably the most perfect Horror Month.
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We're starting it out with episode 13.
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And Halloween is on a Thursday,
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so we don't even have to alter our schedule.
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It's perfect.
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Should we do the out of context summary?
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Mm-hmm.
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In this episode, we face angry icicles,
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a panting menace, and Emily.
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She's a menace to society.
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Thank you for coming back for replay reviews.
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Horror Month.
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My name is Leah.
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And my name is Cathy.
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Ah!
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We are two friends who are here to replay a review
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and analyze your favorite video games.
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And since Cathy has never seen the games before,
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it helps me view them through her fresh eyes,
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almost like I am discovering them again for the first time.
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We have a similar experience for you.
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Oh my God.
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Do I sound like Dracula or just Italian?
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He's not Italian.
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So we start out with the prologue.
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We're introduced to the butterfly effect.
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A tiny butterfly flapping its wings today
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may lead to a devastating hurricane weeks from now.
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Building off of that,
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this is a game that I know super well.
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I know it really well.
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So I did, I made a wheel to randomly select which choices
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because it's a decision-based game
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as the butterfly effect is explaining.
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Soon we see a wintery cabin with occupants inside
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and someone seems to be watching them.
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We learn a bit more about the group dynamics.
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Hannah likes Mike,
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but Mike, the class prez, is dating Emily.
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Jessica is somehow going to mess with Hannah
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because of this and Sam is not on board
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and she goes off looking for Hannah.
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I hate this mean girl type of situation.
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I, knowing where it's going to go,
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if Hannah survives, I don't blame it
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if she decides to kill everyone here.
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It gets out of hand.
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So we see the majority of the gang hiding in a bedroom
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and Hannah walks in where Mike is waiting for her.
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But then we cut back to the kitchen
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where Beth sees the creepy person outside.
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We quickly learn through dialogue
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that Beth is not only the sister of Hannah,
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but they have a brother, Josh,
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who's passed out in the kitchen.
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And this appears to be their parents' property.
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I'm wondering if Josh is passed out because he got drunk
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or if he was drugged by someone.
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I think it's hinted at it was the Jeremiah crag
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that did him in.
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Okay.
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But you never know.
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Beth does find a note in the kitchen that reads,
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"'Hannah, you look so damn hot in that shirt,'
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dot, dot, dot, but I bet you're even hotter out of it.
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Come to the guest room at 2 a.m.
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Winky face, Mike, xxx."
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And this is when we go back to the guest room.
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Mike flirts with Hannah, who starts to take off her shirt
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when everyone pops out and they're filming her.
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Shame on all of them too.
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And they're doing this because of a crush.
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It's just so mean girl type of thing.
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I can't handle this kind of situation.
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I want to punch them all in the faces.
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Back in the kitchen to Beth,
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she sees somebody walk by the window.
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We see it's Hannah, but she may not have noticed that.
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And this is where we have our first choice of the game.
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The wheel chooses to have Beth run to find the others
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and they all run outside trying to find Hannah
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where Emily yells, "'It was just a prank, Han.'"
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So, okay, again, I want to punch Emily
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because none of them are feeling remorseful
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when they should be and this isn't a prank.
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This is a complete like setup
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just to be a bullying kind of thing.
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And Hannah did nothing wrong.
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Beth runs after Hannah
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and along the way she finds an odd object on the ground.
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And when investigated, it shows us a clip of Hannah
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and Beth falling onto rocks.
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And the words death totem pop up on the screen.
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I can't tell if it's a curse or if it's foreshadowing.
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I love playing this game.
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For the first time, I feel like this game is just so good
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because there's a lot that happens in the prologue
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that's just confusing, but interesting.
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Speaking of fire, fire in the forest.
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I don't know, it's not like it's not dry or anything.
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It's freaking winter for them.
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So.
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I remember the first time that I played it
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with my brother and our friends, we were like,
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are there dragons, what is going on, it's so confusing.
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So Beth soon finds Hannah and gives her her coat.
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While this is happening, we see a different point of view.
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It's red with flashes of white.
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It almost seems like those movies
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where the alien versus predator,
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but it's these aliens that only see like things
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like the thermodynamic heat wave signature things.
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And I thought that this game was just gonna be like normal.
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There wasn't gonna be like magic
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or anything involved besides like the totem.
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But now you have this in, so you're wondering,
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is this just a human wearing certain glasses
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or is there a freaking monster in the forest?
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They both react to something that they either see or hear
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and start running in fear along the way Hannah loses her phone.
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They're then cornered when they run to a cliff.
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So they keep backing up as something
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that we don't see as approaching them.
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And they fall over, but Beth is holding on to a root
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with one hand and Hannah with the other.
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We then see more fire and a creepy looking guy
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reaches his hand out to Beth.
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And we now have to choose to drop Hannah
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or let go of the root.
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The wheel landed on dropping Hannah.
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Which I thought you chose to drop Hannah
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and in my comments is like, why did you do that?
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It's the wheel.
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She then with her free hand that let go of Hannah
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reaches up for the mysterious hand
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that's reaching out to her.
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And then the root gives way karma and they both fall down
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and we see the same scene that we just saw
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in the death totem.
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What if something else happened
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between picking up the totem of foreshadowing
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and maybe if you had chose to keep Hannah's hand
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and the root didn't fall,
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maybe you would have survived
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and proved that foreshadowing incorrect.
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And this is where the butterfly effect happens
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is that you already chose your decision
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when one thing happened.
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But you already knew that that was the future.
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So I'm like, is it really the butterfly effect in a way?
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I don't know.
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I'm just confused at this point.
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This one's a bit different,
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which we'll see when we go to the analyst, Dr. AJ Hill.
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He says, no one can change what happened last year.
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So it's kind of a hint to the player that the prologue,
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you can't really change the fate of Hannah and Beth,
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but you can just change outcomes later.
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It is what it is in the prologue.
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Any reactions to Dr. AJ Hill yet?
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This guy's a creep.
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I don't know.
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I don't like the way he's presenting it,
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but I'm also confused about this conversation.
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It feels like he's speaking to us,
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but then when we see him again,
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it doesn't feel that way anymore.
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It feels like then he's talking
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to one of the characters in it.
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Are we supposed to feel like we're, as a player,
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interacting directly with him,
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or are we supposed to feel like we are a character
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and that character is talking to the therapist?
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It's a good question.
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I really like these segments of the game.
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I don't think I've seen anything like it before.
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He's not very happy with us.
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He thinks that we're not being honest.
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This therapist is already making me quite suspicious.
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So after the first section of credits,
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we see Sam on a bus and she's listening to a news report
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on her way to the lodge.
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We learn that it has been one year
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since the mysterious disappearance of the sisters
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and the news lady,
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or I think it's a cop being interviewed, says,
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There is one individual we're considering
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as a person of interest,
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but his whereabouts are currently unknown.
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He has an interesting history with the Washington family.
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He had warned them against
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pursuing their construction project
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and claimed the land was sacred to his forefathers.
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You know, there is still the old sanatorium on the mountain.
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Could he be hiding there?
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My officers did search the grounds,
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but the girls themselves couldn't have made it that far.
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After the news clip, Sam watches a video from Josh.
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He's happy to have everyone back
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to the annual Blackwood Winner getaway.
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How did none of the friends pass up
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what happened to give the police more hints?
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And in doing so, let them know and loop Josh in
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about what they did to his sister,
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because I think if he knew,
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he wouldn't be so friendly and open to these people
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coming into his house,
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especially when he's saying that,
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I think my sisters would like it,
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like having this group again.
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But at the same time, what if Josh knew this
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and is purposely leading them all into the same place
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where his sisters weren't missing and possibly are dead,
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and he's going to carry out revenge?
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That's what I'm thinking is the more likely option.
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Like he's luring them into his trap.
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It is weird and Sam has a reaction
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where she seems a bit uncomfortable and sad.
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But after that, the intro credits finish out.
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Scene two, it's chapter one, friendship,
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10 hours until dawn.
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Sam arrives at Blackwood Pines
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and we see the same knife-wielding person
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watching her from a distance.
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Why is he panting like that?
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Ew.
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It makes me really uncomfortable.
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It's icky, it's gross.
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We do get officially introduced to Sam, who is
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Hannah's best friend, diligent, considerate, and adventurous.
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As she continues on the path,
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you can tell that she feels a presence around her,
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but no one answers her when she calls out.
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So she stops to read a sign.
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It explains the death totem we found as Beth.
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It's a dream or prophecy of a possible future.
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In addition to death totems, black,
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there are danger, red, loss, brown,
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guidance, yellow, and fortune, white.
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And then at the base of the sign,
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Sam finds a guidance totem showing a bird landing
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and flying away.
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I wonder if the birds carry more meaning.
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Again, it's with the birds,
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but with birds and butterflies, just things with wings.
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I promise I didn't count the birds this time.
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Good golly.
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Although it probably would have been easier.
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Now at the cable car station, Sam finds graffiti,
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which says the past is beyond our control.
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I agree at the same time though,
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if it's beyond your control,
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you could still right your wrongs with the past.
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So it's still a bit in your control.
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She also finds Chris's backpack and his phone is buzzing.
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The wheel chooses to close his bag
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and we see the butterfly effect message pop up.
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And it says, this appears when you've changed
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the narrative of the game.
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I really want to know what happened
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as she picked the phone up.
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Yeah, I know he gets mad.
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I don't remember what the long-term effects of it are,
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but it's a good thing she didn't snoop
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because he walks up right behind her.
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And we learned that Chris has a crush on Ashley,
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is methodical, protective, and humorous.
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Was he there during the prank?
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I can't remember.
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So I'm pretty sure that he's the second guy
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passed out with Josh.
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Oh, okay.
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So I don't think he's technically involved.
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Chris shows Sam a wanted poster he found.
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It's for Victor Milgram from 1998,
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and he was wanted for arson and death threats.
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Spooky.
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Spooky, and I'm thinking he may be that person of interest
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that the news talked about,
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but the arson part to it is like, that's red,
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and then that vision that we saw with just the death totem,
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it kind of looked like it was just like in flames,
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like there was fire going on.
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This guy likes arson.
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I don't know.
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Yep, there's random poofs of fire in the forest.
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Moving on, Sam is confused
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when the cable car station door is locked.
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Then Chris says that Josh wanted them to keep it locked
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because they've found people sleeping in there before.
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In the cable car station, as Chris,
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we find a Blackwood Pines Hotel and Sanatorium poster.
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Maybe if Beth and Hannah were still alive,
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they would be there.
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Also, I'm just realizing how messed up it is
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that they built the sanatorium up here
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to shove all the mentally ill people onto a mountain
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away from everybody else, but then also why a hotel?
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That seems weird.
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For family and friends to come visit and stay there.
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I hope so.
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I hope they visit.
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We also find a small TV
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showing what looks like a bathtub or a hot tub,
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but then it quickly flips to a different camera
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showing the outside of the cable car station.
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We now meet Jess at the upper station.
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She's Mike's new girlfriend,
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confident, trusting, and irreverent.
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She connects with Sam and Chris,
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who swipes a letter out of her hand.
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And I think it's my favorite line in the whole game,
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is just the noise that Chris makes.
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Wait, do you have it queued up?
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I have it queued up.
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Oh!
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Oh!
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I love it.
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And you don't get it every time.
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He'll make a different noise depending on your play through.
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Really?
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Which I think is great.
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Chris is kind of annoying right now.
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I'm already like kind of annoyed by him,
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but I don't know exactly what it is,
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but I'll keep you posted on my feelings.
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But right now this is where it's getting at 5%.
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For some reason.
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I think he's just way too excited and happy.
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Maybe that's what it is.
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But this letter he swipes is addressed to Mike,
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and they discuss the new dynamics and Jess says,
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M's out, I'm in.
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And then why does she get all embarrassed
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about wanting to wait for him if they're dating?
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That seems normal.
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That and why didn't they come up there together?
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Why are they trying separately?
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All good questions.
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All right.
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Moving on, we meet the next batch of characters.
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First up is Emily.
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She's Mike's ex, intelligent, resourceful, and persuasive.
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And also Matt, who is Emily's new boyfriend.
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He's motivated, ambitious, and active.
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And they have a toxic relationship.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of, as they're walking along the path,
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Mike jumps out to scare the poop out of them.
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And we learned that he's Emily's ex,
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intelligent, driven, and persuasive.
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He shares two qualities with Emily,
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which I think is interesting.
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Everyone's pretty on the edge,
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and then you have people like him and Chris
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who just kind of like pop out
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and think it's all fun and games.
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Yeah.
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But also, I just immediately don't like Emily.
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I find her already really annoying
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because you could tell she's just using Matt.
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And I just feel like she's not a very genuine person.
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The random choice wheel leads to a frosty start
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for Matt and Mike.
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And then when he walks away, not saying, see ya.
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See ya.
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Emily then asks Matt to take all the bags up
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because she needs to go find Sam.
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Why couldn't you just call her?
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And wow, what a great relationship
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that you start out already lying.
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And this is right after the interaction with Mike.
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So I feel like any person would be able to tell
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that she obviously either still has feelings for him
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or she wants to talk to him.
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And she isn't being truthful,
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and it's doing a disservice to her relationship with Matt.
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And then he goes, we're even at least
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for doing this for her.
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And she goes, I'll think about it.
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Matt deserves better.
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He does, he really does.
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Even though the wheel is kind of turning him into an ass
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in this play through, he still deserves better.
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And then we cut to Ashley who has a crush on Chris.
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She's academic, inquisitive, and forthright.
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She's looking through binoculars
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and sees Emily and Mike together.
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And then Matt jump scares her through the binoculars.
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How'd you like that?
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It's not as bad, some of the jump scares are okay.
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Some of them are worse than others,
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but I think I'm doing better.
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He asks Ashley what she's looking at
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and she allows him to look.
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And when he sees he's rightfully upset.
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It's very juvenile drama too.
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So I don't even know what the ages are with these people,
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but they all need some development
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in their emotional maturity levels
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because Mike should have known better
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than to do something with Emily.
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She should have known better.
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And Matt should be able to communicate
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what he sees with Emily.
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It says that either you're with him or we're breaking up.
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We're now back to Jessica at the upper station still.
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Mike arrives and starts a snowball fight
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that gets oddly erotic.
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I don't know how you felt about the scene.
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Uncomfortable.
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Yeah, agreed.
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It gets more uncomfortable when Jess murders
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or Robin with the snowball.
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The bird reference.
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Yeah, I have that on my notes.
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I was like, does Cathy recognize this from the totem?
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Yeah.
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After brief hesitation in mourning
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the loss of this innocent bird,
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Mike is right back at it and tackles Jess.
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They're interrupted when an icicle almost impales them.
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Can that even happen?
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I mean, I know that's like a urban legend.
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I think it can.
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Now I have to Google.
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Can you?
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Maybe from a certain height.
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So while icicles are rarely sharp enough
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or large enough to impale a person,
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they can still cause bruises, cuts,
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and broken bones when they fall.
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However, I think you can.
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Wait, is that what you're saying or you're reading?
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I think you can.
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I'm reading that, but I think you can is my own opinion.
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There's potential.
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Anything's possible.
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Anything's possible.
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So after dodging the icicle, they move on
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and then we see the cable car
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arriving with a lone occupant.
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Should we go back to Dr. Hale?
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Yeah.
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All right, he says.
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This time we're going to try to understand
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the root of your anxiety.
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Now pick up that book, turn the pages.
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You will see a set of pictures and symbols.
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I want you to identify which image in each set
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makes you the most anxious.
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And through the wheel,
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the top three things that we don't like
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are snakes, zombies, and thunderstorms.
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Dr. Hale says that some combination
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sounds like a good Friday night.
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More thoughts on Dr. Hale?
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Why are we doing this?
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I don't understand.
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Are we going to see more snakes, zombies, and thunderstorms?
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Yeah, this is probably a pretty weak combination.
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I think there'll be a snake on his desk,
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but I don't know about the zombies and thunderstorms
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because there's definitely choices that you make
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that you'll see them more in the game,
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like rats and spiders, you'll see them more.
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But I don't feel like we see more zombies or thunderstorms.
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So I think some of them are kind of weak.
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Okay, it's now chapter two, Jealousy,
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Nine Hours Until Dawn.
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We're back to Chris and Sam, and they're now with Josh.
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And we learned that he is Hannah and Beth's brother,
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complex, thoughtful, and loving.
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Feel like we're supposed to think Josh is a good person
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and like just naive when I still think he's some,
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he's calculative, he's scheming some kind of thing
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to seek revenge for our sisters.
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And I hope that's true.
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It is kind of weird that they give him thoughtful and loving,
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like two really good traits,
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like nobody else's traits are that good.
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It's a little suspicious.
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It still seems like they're being watched.
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So I don't know.
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But then Chris and Josh have to find a way into the lodge
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when they discover that the lock is iced over.
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But on their way, Chris checks in with Ashley.
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And then Josh makes comments about her
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further down the path, trying to push Chris to go for it.
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Pretty quickly, he's not seeing very loving or thoughtful.
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Yeah, but I also do think he's setting up
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in a situation where Josh could kill two birds with one stone.
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That if he gets Chris and Ashley together,
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they're gonna be distracted.
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And then he could like immediately kill them both.
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You're really thinking about this.
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Yeah, the strategy behind it.
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I like it.
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Okay.
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So Chris finds an axe holder and the axe is missing.
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Is the axe with their friend group
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or is it with the person that's like creeping up on them?
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We don't know.
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Yeah. It's a mystery.
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And then Chris makes it into the storage
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slash garage basement area through a window
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and a light bulb explodes.
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I think that that just might be the sudden,
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like the heat inside and then the cold temperatures outside
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and glass breaking.
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Makes sense, makes sense.
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Josh tosses a lighter to Chris
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and he has an idea to use it with a can of deodorant
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as a makeshift flamethrower to melt the lock.
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But the fact that Josh quickly then goes like,
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oh, I have something I need to attend to
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makes it very suspicious that you're already there.
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Why wouldn't you go inside with Chris as well?
22:27
Like, you know where the deodorant is.
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Why are you making him try to find it by himself?
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And what else do you have to do
22:34
if you can't get into the lodge?
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And then I like when he asks Chris
22:38
if he wants to go night hunting.
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And Chris's response is,
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Nope, but I'll do it.
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That's a friend.
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What a good friend.
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So in this area, Chris finds a lost totem
22:49
which shows Emily being burnt
22:52
and a newspaper scrap from 1997 that says,
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ex-janitor convicted for arson, Victor Milgram.
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And then a door seemingly closes on its own.
23:03
And he finds a prom night photo,
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which is, it says senior prom and 2013.
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So to answer your question,
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I think that they're like 18 or 19.
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He also finds a best horror film trophy for Bob Washington.
23:18
So Bob is probably the dad then, right?
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Mm-hmm. Okay.
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He finds the deodorant,
23:25
but is jump scared by a Wolverine.
23:28
How did the Wolverine get in there?
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Yeah, that's what I want to know.
23:31
Why is it in there?
23:32
I mean, we saw an open window,
23:34
but how does it then open the cabinet?
23:37
So with the lock freed,
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everyone filters into the lodge and Matt confronts Mike.
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It gets heated.
23:43
It gets physical.
23:44
Why does he grab Mike's face like that?
23:47
I feel like they just both don't know
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how to be in actual fight.
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And so they're just like,
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you know, those memes of two girls
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just like slapping their hands back and forth at each other,
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holding their arms out trying to avoid their faces.
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I have never seen this scene play out like this before.
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Any other time that I've seen it,
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Matt's not nearly as aggressive,
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and usually it's Emily and Jess that end up fighting.
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And I think it's a really fun scene,
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so I'm gonna show it to you.
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Okay. Here we go.
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Oh my God, that is so gross.
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Are you trying to swallow his face whole?
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I mean, seriously, can she be any more obvious?
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No one wants in on your territory, honey.
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Excuse me, did you say something?
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Oh, did you not hear me?
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Was your sluttiness too loud?
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Sounds like someone's bitter she didn't make the cut.
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Yeah, it's all a big cattle call with that dreamboat.
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Congrats, you're top cow.
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Cut's real deep calling in his homecoming a cow.
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Em, come on.
24:49
No, shut up, Matt.
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Stay out of it, you dumb oaf.
24:52
Hey, watch it.
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Oh, you're the only one who could put him down?
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No one else can play with your toys?
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You're such a bitch.
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Whatever.
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I don't give a crap what you think.
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At least I can think.
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4.0 bitch, honor roll.
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Suck on that when you're trying to sleep your way into a job.
25:07
Who needs grades when you've got
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all the natural advantages you can handle?
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Oh, please.
25:12
You couldn't buy a moldy loaf of bread
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with your skanky ass.
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Are you serious?
25:16
You think that's insulting?
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That bitch is on crack or something.
25:23
Jessica, you need to shut your mouth, okay?
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No.
25:26
You're the one who needs to keep your nose
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out of other people's business.
25:30
I'm about to get right up in your business, you bitch.
25:32
Are we about to get real?
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Cause I am down to get real.
25:36
Stop it.
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I love that scene so much.
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Me too.
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I kind of want there to be more to it
25:42
and just slap each other because Emily is so,
25:47
she needs a rude awakening and I hope that like people
25:51
like that and that's the thing is actually no people
25:53
like that and I cannot wait for the day where karma
25:56
gets them back where they find someone who's meaner
25:58
than them and they realize that they can't always
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have it their way so I want those two to just slap down.
26:04
It's so good.
26:06
Cause they're so opposite.
26:08
It's like somehow they're evenly matched.
26:11
And Mike is just watching his ex and his current ex
26:14
or current girlfriend just, I've had it.
26:18
Okay, anyway, in this play through, Josh breaks up the fight
26:21
and suggests that Mike and Jess go check out the guest cabin
26:25
and then Emily says one of her bags is missing
26:28
and she and Matt go to look for it at the station.
26:30
Emily makes a massive deal out of like not having the bag
26:34
and where she got it from.
26:35
Who does she think she is?
26:37
If you really needed it, like carry it yourself.
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I know.
26:42
They did such a good job just making her so bitchy.
26:48
And then Sam's just gonna go take a bath,
26:50
which seems weird.
26:51
Why is that the first thing you wanna do
26:53
when you go into unknown location?
26:54
Like you don't even check out to see
26:57
what kind of changes there are.
26:59
You have like no awareness, spatial awareness.
27:03
They haven't even turned the lights on yet.
27:05
Right?
27:07
Anything else in scene five?
27:10
So we're with Mike and Jess now.
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They start walking to the guest cabin.
27:14
I think if they are going to die,
27:17
it's probably because their mind's in the gutter
27:19
and they have no spatial awareness
27:21
that there could be a murder in front of them
27:23
and they wouldn't realize that
27:25
because they're too busy making dirty jokes.
27:28
They just, they're never ending.
27:30
But along the way, Mike finds a danger totem.
27:33
It appears to show Ashley getting punched in the face
27:35
by like a clown looking thing.
27:37
I don't like those clowns.
27:39
I don't either.
27:41
They have to turn on the generator to light up the path.
27:43
And in the generator shed,
27:45
we get jump scared by a man in the window
27:47
who Mike does not seem to notice.
27:50
Lack of spatial awareness.
27:51
I'm seeing a murder could be in front of you
27:53
and they wouldn't even know it.
27:55
Further along the path, they find police tape
27:58
and they say it must be from Hannah and Beth.
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And at this point, then Jess is talking to Mike saying that
28:05
at least she has awareness.
28:06
It might've been their fault.
28:07
She doesn't really think it is.
28:09
Like it's not really their fault.
28:13
But from the player, like if they're being bullies,
28:17
they're not gonna admit their wrong
28:18
and the fact that they haven't said anything
28:20
just goes to show that they do realize subconsciously
28:23
something they did was not okay.
28:26
And count their days.
28:28
She seems more regretful,
28:30
but Mike says that what happened as a result
28:33
isn't their fault.
28:35
But nothing you did was right though.
28:39
Like there's nothing okay about it.
28:42
Okay, so soon they hear a weird like screech.
28:45
They're spooked, but they keep going.
28:48
My other theory is that it's either Josh
28:52
or it's that creepy person,
28:56
which we need to give him a name at this point.
28:59
This stalker dude.
29:01
I'm thinking that they're playing some kind of music
29:03
to freak them out, to lure them into,
29:07
I don't know, some kind of trap and then kill them.
29:10
Their path is blocked, so they have to go another way.
29:13
And they find a mine entrance in which Jess falls down into.
29:18
Mike decides to jump down after her
29:20
and this is when we see that they're still being followed
29:21
by this guy.
29:23
And how is he not caught?
29:24
Like how is he that quiet?
29:26
In the mine, Mike finds a fortune totem
29:29
showing a half naked Jess sitting up,
29:33
a cigar stub, which she says it's recent,
29:36
a mystical symbol and a map of mine danger areas.
29:41
Well, they push that mine cart.
29:44
What do you call those things?
29:46
Yeah, the mine cart.
29:47
Yeah, the mine cart.
29:48
And then it kind of comes back.
29:51
So it's either like on a hill
29:53
or there's someone on the other end that pushed it back.
29:57
Once again, outside the mines, Jess finds a telescope
30:01
and looks through it and says that she saw someone
30:03
at the cabin.
30:05
So then Mike looks through it
30:06
and did he seriously not see that thing?
30:11
I mean, Mike has the spatial awareness of a toddler.
30:17
But did you have reactions to what that thing,
30:20
like what is that?
30:22
I don't know.
30:23
I'm like still trying to figure things out right now.
30:26
Yeah.
30:28
This game really like does its best to confuse you,
30:31
which I like.
30:32
And then I feel like it wants to try to convince us
30:34
that what we just saw is a bear based on the sign
30:37
that Mike reads, but they come across another blockage
30:41
in the path, which results in Jess climbing
30:43
over a downed tree and then disappearing as she screams.
30:48
Who got her?
30:49
Is it that creeper?
30:51
I don't know.
30:53
We quickly cut away though.
30:54
We're back to the group that's at the lodge.
30:57
Sam and Josh work on getting the hot water turned on.
31:01
In the house, Sam finds a business card
31:04
for a tattoo parlor with a drawing of a butterfly on it
31:07
in Hannah's room, as well as a magazine compatibility test
31:12
on which she scored low.
31:14
And it suggests that she do something bold
31:17
like getting a tattoo to get her crushes attention.
31:21
Was that note written by Mike to her though?
31:25
The invitation?
31:26
Yeah.
31:27
I don't know.
31:28
I feel like it's hard to blame Hannah for having crush
31:31
when you're inviting her and you just seem so friendly
31:34
with her, which I know maybe part of it is just Hannah
31:37
thinking too much of it.
31:39
But I don't understand that hate for her so much
31:43
in the beginning and the prologue.
31:46
I still can't get over that.
31:47
Yeah.
31:48
I think looking at the invitation,
31:49
the part where it's like, I'd be delighted.
31:51
That looks like it's printed on the invitation.
31:54
So I don't think that's Mike saying,
31:56
I think he's saying that to everyone technically.
31:59
But yeah, you can't blame someone
32:03
for having a crush on somebody.
32:06
And then we also find a Halloween party invitation
32:09
from Sam and it features the image
32:11
that Dr. Hill first showed us.
32:14
That's kind of interesting.
32:15
We have something connecting Dr. Hill
32:18
to the current world, current timeline.
32:22
I'm wondering what if Dr. Hill participated
32:25
in the disappearance of Hannah and Beth.
32:30
I don't know how, but I just don't know
32:32
how he's connected to all this.
32:34
I think it's just more than your general
32:36
therapist-client relationship.
32:40
Josh sends Chris and Ashley to go find a spirit board
32:43
while he and Sam go to the basement
32:45
to deal with the hot water.
32:47
On the lower level, Sam finds a picture
32:49
of all three siblings and Hannah has her tattoo
32:52
in this picture, so she did get a tattoo.
32:55
Do we know what it is of?
32:57
I can't remember.
32:58
It's a butterfly.
32:59
Okay, leaning into that butterfly theme.
33:03
Josh tells Sam he is especially glad that she's there
33:06
and she assures him that they're all there for him.
33:10
Any thought on their dynamic?
33:13
I think it's just a friends dynamic.
33:15
I don't really sense a romantic thing.
33:18
I think if my theory is right
33:21
that Josh is just trying to seek revenge,
33:23
he's just acting really friendly to get close to people
33:25
to make him seem unsuspecting of,
33:29
or not suspicious of anything that is about to go wrong.
33:35
And then noises in the basement spook Sam,
33:38
but they are able to get the boiler running despite this.
33:41
However, more noises lead them to go investigate
33:44
and this is when a figure jumps out at them
33:45
and starts chasing them.
33:49
Thoughts on this?
33:50
I think it's just if it was the serial killer
33:54
or that weird stalker person,
33:57
I think it's way too soon to make its appearance.
34:01
So I'm like, what is going on?
34:03
And it ends up being Chris just freaking them out.
34:07
And I will say like people like Chris who act like that
34:10
annoy the heck out of me.
34:13
And then he has the audacity to say, you just got monked.
34:16
Chris reveals the spirit board that he finally found.
34:21
And of course he has to go.
34:26
Can we keep your version?
34:29
And then what does Sam do?
34:31
She goes back up to take a bath.
34:34
I don't understand why this bath is so high
34:36
on the priority list.
34:37
I don't either.
34:40
We are back to Dr. Hill.
34:42
I would like to understand your feeling toward people
34:45
who fear failure and worry about what others think of them.
34:53
Do you share this fear?
34:57
With the previous time that we saw the Dr. Hill
35:01
and knowing that he has all these questions about fear,
35:06
like why does he want to know?
35:08
And what's he gonna do with this information once he knows?
35:13
What are your thoughts on the game so far?
35:14
Thoughts, theories, reactions?
35:17
My main theory is that Josh invited them all to kill them.
35:22
Maybe, I don't know.
35:23
I don't know if Beth and Hannah are still alive or not.
35:27
Not very confident about that.
35:28
Maybe that weird stalker person saved them
35:30
and it's actually a good person.
35:32
And they're behind everything of just working with Josh
35:36
to try to seek revenge.
35:39
I just feel like there's a lot thrown at us
35:41
in the first hour of the game.
35:45
It does its absolute best to just confuse,
35:49
just confuse you as much as it can, which is enjoyable.
35:54
It definitely gets you interested
35:56
in what's gonna happen next.
35:59
How scary are you finding it?
36:02
Not too bad compared to Outlast.
36:06
I think it's because there isn't much gore right now,
36:10
it's not too bad.
36:11
I was worried about the jump scares
36:13
because there's a lot of them.
36:14
The jump scares weren't as bad.
36:16
I think you starting me off with Outlast was a good idea.
36:21
Threw you right into the fire.
36:23
Yeah, that one was, those one, one and a half, two
36:27
were all enough to make my stomach churn,
36:30
but it's not too bad.
36:33
I think with your advanced warning of jump scare,
36:37
I'm able to handle it.
36:39
We'll see if that continues or not as the game heats up.
36:45
All right, well, I'm excited for Horror Month.
36:48
We'll see if my theories are right or completely wrong.
36:53
Yes, we will.
36:54
Perfect, I'll count us off at dastardly on one, three, two, one.
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