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Alborz Fallah joins us to chat break ins, cars, MG4 and Paul's beautiful body · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: Can you hear that? Can you hear that?
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: What's that with?
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Well, that's silence because Trevor Long finally fucking left. Oh
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: my god, I swear to god, it's like when he
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: rocked up. It's like remember when you're a kid and
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: a bird flew into the classroom and was hitting the
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  Speaker 1: fucking ceiling fans and all the kids would be going wild.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a labrador that hasn't been for a run
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  Speaker 1: in two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing that doesn't match that description he's
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  Speaker 2: not allowed to near kids. I don't have that court cases.
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  Speaker 1: Get a Trevor, if you're listening, you bought this on yourself, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: could not get a word in with that guy. I
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  Speaker 1: quickly realized it was just best to just sit back
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  Speaker 1: and just you know, when you kind of meet like
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  Speaker 1: an ice addic on the street and you just kin't
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  Speaker 1: have to give him time.
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  Speaker 2: That was trev That was me with trev a special
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  Speaker 2: guest today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's good that you swopt over a last
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  Speaker 1: guest for someone decent.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, last guest Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Long, Oh jesus, yeah, didn't he warm the stage
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 2: So elbows f la co founder of I Won't Clap, No,
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  Speaker 2: please please clap.
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  Speaker 1: He asked me to set this studio up like a
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  Speaker 1: bas lumin movie. We have doves on standby confetti. That's
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  Speaker 1: how he wanted to enter the building.
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  Speaker 2: You know it? Me, well, yes, so, Elbows, I've known
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  Speaker 2: you for like almost twenty years now, I think. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a fucking while swear yes, absolutely, there's only
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  Speaker 2: one word right into it. There's only one word you
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  Speaker 2: can't say, and that starts with d n n's in
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  Speaker 2: riveh because we'll get sued again. Yes. Sorry. It was
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  Speaker 2: a good drive here though.
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  Speaker 1: Remember back in the nineties when you used to just
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  Speaker 1: get like the old fair facts.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, no known Elbows rages. Elbows was founder
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  Speaker 2: of car Advice. We met shortly after that started. I
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  Speaker 2: had my own.
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  Speaker 1: Site, was that Oodles ofdoodles dot com.
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  Speaker 2: It was the garage and yeah, we joined forces and
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  Speaker 2: we'll hang on.
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  Speaker 3: He was like twelve years old and he was on
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  Speaker 3: his peap plates where he couldn't legally drive money in
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  Speaker 3: the cars, but he used to hire hist pea plate
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  Speaker 3: in his wallet and I put it like a sticker
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  Speaker 3: over it when he picked up press cars, which was
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  Speaker 3: very legal. But we had this investor who I guess
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  Speaker 3: just wanted a son and he saw that in Paul,
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: so he decided there was a good idea if he
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  Speaker 3: bought his business.
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  Speaker 2: That guys was disturbing. He was disturbed. Now, but I
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  Speaker 2: think of it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's very much a Giuseppe Pinocchio situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he tell another lie Pinocchio. Sorry, but yeah, fast forward carried.
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  Speaker 1: I sold to Channel nine in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: To eighteen, two year now, and then we got the
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  Speaker 2: fuck out of there because they were ruining that and
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of dispear as to who thought we
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: should leave.
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  Speaker 3: Paul tries to take credit for this, but realistically, I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty sure I can take credit for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So did you see the building starting to
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  Speaker 1: fire up?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: What was the look?
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  Speaker 3: The main reason was they asked me to write a
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  Speaker 3: content plan for automotive and for auto in general, for
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  Speaker 3: co Advice and nine, and I wrote a content plan
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  Speaker 3: and they said no, no, no, we wanted you to
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  Speaker 3: write the plan for how you were going to write
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  Speaker 3: the content plan. And I was like, oh no, but
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  Speaker 3: I've already written the content plan, said I know, and
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  Speaker 3: it's really good, but we need you to write the
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  Speaker 3: plan for how you were going to rout the content plan,
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  Speaker 3: so that we could understand how that content plan was
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  Speaker 3: put together. But I was like, but I've already done
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  Speaker 3: the plan, and I can't work in an environment where
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  Speaker 3: someone has.
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  Speaker 2: To write a plan for a plan. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: gotta leave.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we all met up in Geneva at the
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  Speaker 3: Motor Show YEP, and we decided that.
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  Speaker 2: Enough was enough and were literally all on the same
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  Speaker 2: day press release came out without telling anyone. Yeah, and
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: then the guy that was running the show at the
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  Speaker 2: time got the press release of the same time that
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: we sent our resignation emails and hit the fan briefly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: Actually it was quite for quite a sustained period. But
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  Speaker 2: you in a court case I heard of, just for
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  Speaker 2: something different. But yeah, so as a good week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we started Car Expert after that, as in after the
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  Speaker 2: restraint period ended.
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  Speaker 1: And back in the early days, thanks for clarifying Paul, Yes, legally, God,
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: back in the early days, what was a little Pavlo
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  Speaker 1: like he was really annoying and oh well, yeah, nothing's changed.
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  Speaker 3: No, he really thought he was good at a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things. He was a complete bogain that definitely hasn't changed.
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  Speaker 3: Always wanted to show off that he could do burnouts
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  Speaker 3: because somehow he thought that anyone buying a car cared
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  Speaker 3: enough for that.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, they had his little spark. He still
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  Speaker 1: does that actually with his raptor. Check it out, guys,
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  Speaker 1: you two can do doughnuts and a raptor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well that that just to be one hundred percent clear,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't what caused the issue with my dip. It
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  Speaker 2: just it was I think it was no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Just again, legally, that is not what caused the issue
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  Speaker 2: with my diff And we did actually run into one
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  Speaker 2: issue once when I did the SS commodore came out
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  Speaker 2: the ve and I went to see my mate who
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  Speaker 2: worked at a servo when I did a little burnout
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  Speaker 2: in front of the servo and did you do that
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  Speaker 2: in front of I happen to be the managing director
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  Speaker 2: of Holden And then the next day I've got a
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  Speaker 2: call that it didn't really like me doing burnouts in
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  Speaker 2: his car. So that was the end of Holden's for
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  Speaker 2: a while.
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  Speaker 3: But I think I think Paul's greatest greatest story at
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  Speaker 3: Ciendvistre was when he used to take spy photos for
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  Speaker 3: us with his seventeen kilometer long lens, and one time
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  Speaker 3: he was doing spy photos of the Falcon, the last
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  Speaker 3: ever Falcon actually, and he basically got accustomed by a
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  Speaker 3: security guard and then all but ran over him on
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  Speaker 3: the way out, and then there was all this legal
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  Speaker 3: matters and police stuff and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, literally that's what happened. I was at the
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  Speaker 2: proven ground, got some shots outside of the private property,
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  Speaker 2: perfectly legal. By the way, we got to a set
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  Speaker 2: of traffic lights, it took some more shots legally, got
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  Speaker 2: to Ford's headquarters in Geelong and took some shots through
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  Speaker 2: the fence and security guard came out, boxed my car
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  Speaker 2: in and I was like, I'm going to get the
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  Speaker 2: fuck out of here. And then I got this little
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  Speaker 2: gap and just as I was going, he grabbed the
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  Speaker 2: door handle to open it. I'm like, fuck is this
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  Speaker 2: guy doing? And then I got out of there and
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: he fell over and I was like, fucking hell, I
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  Speaker 2: hope he's not hurt. And I sort of went back
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: to check that he was running. He's fucking moving. Let
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  Speaker 2: me just finish that. And yeah, I got a call
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  Speaker 2: from the police and they're like, we need you to
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  Speaker 2: come down for questioning. I'm like, what the fuck? And
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  Speaker 2: what they had claimed was that I climbed their fence
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like okay, And I brought in my camera
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  Speaker 2: for the officer to see the camera at this time
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  Speaker 2: weighed like twenty kilos and I'm like, how do you
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  Speaker 2: want me to climb the fence while holding onto this?
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  Speaker 2: And then I showed him the photos that clearly showed
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  Speaker 2: I was shooting through the fence because you could see
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  Speaker 2: the fence. Yeah, and they told Ford to just worry
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  Speaker 2: about security on their property instead of out on a
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  Speaker 2: main road. So thankfully the guy was okay. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: after that, I was just something.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been the start of a great relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Ford, I imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Well, they never found out up until this very moment.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, didn't they.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. They never knew because they called
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  Speaker 2: us and I said, we've spoken to the person involved,
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  Speaker 2: and then I sat myself down.
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  Speaker 1: So have I Actually he's coming in right now in
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  Speaker 1: security guard Frank.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad I could be the first to break
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  Speaker 3: that NI twenty years in the meeting.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I felt bad for the guy because he
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  Speaker 2: was obviously thought that he was doing his job, but
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  Speaker 2: thankfully he wasn't too hurt, but.
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  Speaker 3: Was grabbing a door handle of a moving peple. It
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  Speaker 3: was not the smartest thing.
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  Speaker 2: But what was he going to do when he opened
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  Speaker 2: the door? Going to punch?
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  Speaker 1: Drag you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Did you so you published the picks?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? After all that trouble with you? Yeah, you'd have
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  Speaker 2: to write, Wow, it is weirder. There was one bloke,
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  Speaker 2: and I've never really told this story. There was one
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  Speaker 2: bloke that I met once and he was was this
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  Speaker 2: in a dark alley? Well may as well have been,
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  Speaker 2: because he shared a story about how he was stay
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  Speaker 2: once and I'm like, well, this is start to a
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  Speaker 2: great relationship. And I was at the proving ground getting
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  Speaker 2: some photos over the fence and someone whispered, get the
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  Speaker 2: fuck out of here, and We're literally in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere, and I'm like, where the fuck is that
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  Speaker 2: noise coming from? And he was up in the tree,
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  Speaker 2: dressed in camo and it was my mate, but the
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  Speaker 2: stabby guy, and he was hiding in the trees and
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: he had been there all day. So he got dropped
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  Speaker 2: off at like six am, and I was there at
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  Speaker 2: like four or five pm in the evening and he
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: had been in the tree all day waiting for a
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  Speaker 2: car to come past. And you know, this was our
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  Speaker 2: budget for doing spy photos.
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  Speaker 3: When other competitors realized how effective they were, one of
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  Speaker 3: them hired a plane to fly over the proving ground
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  Speaker 3: with the spy photos really literally Yeah, and then he
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  Speaker 3: get nearly as good as photos as pulled in in
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  Speaker 3: his arrest worthy escapedes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the only thing that stopped all the photos,
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  Speaker 2: aside from the potential legal incident, a beehive managed to
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  Speaker 2: get established in the fence post that I used to
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: stand on, And I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: That, I wonder what that's like now, Like I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if if drones and stuff like that could do that.
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  Speaker 2: You know. The clever thing for Ford, not not that
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  Speaker 2: they engineered any of this, but it's it's it's in
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  Speaker 2: a no fly zone because it's within the landing path
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  Speaker 2: of Avalon Airport. So if you try and get a
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  Speaker 2: drone up, it won't let you fly because it keeps
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  Speaker 2: coming up with GPS things about it being in a
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  Speaker 2: no fly zone, so you can't actually use drones around
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  Speaker 2: there anymore. And also the other problem is there are
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  Speaker 2: three prisons just near there as well, so they all
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: have drone blocking shit there too, So they dropped like
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: heroin packets.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've thought about it. Left Donna some pictures.
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  Speaker 1: It's just she's doing a bit of hard time. Actually yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the message was that she liked to do
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: some hard time with you.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: The Donna story because it doesn't listen to this horrible show,
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: but Donna spawned from our road trip from Adelaide to Melbourne,
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: where that lady at the a caravan park that we
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: stayed at was was secretly coming to our rooms for
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  Speaker 2: a cheeky bang at knockout. Wow, So listen to this
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  Speaker 2: more awesome.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, you don't. I don't think Paul's
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: told you the actual story. She helped charge Paul's car.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: I believe Paul did sneak into her caravan and quote
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: filled her up. I don't know what that means.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: But apparently he used her side tit as a doner
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: that night. In reality, that lady was actually really nice,
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: so I bet she was.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: She keeps calling the show. She keeps calling the show,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: so you've you've got a bit of a checkered history.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: One would say, with Paul. That's good.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good. It's been twenty years and.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: When we left we decided to start cor Expert together.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: We obviously have another co founder who is a far
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: more deserving co founder than Paul. He's a senile fool,
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: but he's not really I'm not sure if he still
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: knows he's a co founder and this business.
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  Speaker 2: Actually doesn't know where he is most of the time.
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  Speaker 2: Is much like Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 3: We have an air tag on him just to make
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  Speaker 3: sure he doesn't go tracking device.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, just in case, just in case you get one
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  Speaker 1: of those texts from the police. This man, yeah, this.
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  Speaker 3: Man wearing a car expert shit, has it been walking
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  Speaker 3: naked with his pants down?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, it's funny you say that because I did meet him,
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  Speaker 1: no joke. I did actually meet him at the Young
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  Speaker 1: Day headquarters or both swapping a car around at the
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: same time, and he did have one ball hanging out
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: his shorts reeling lead. I was like, bro, you're gonna
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: do something about that. And he just like, he's got
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: lovely hair, like it's wind swept, and he looks interesting
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: and he just looked.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: Out and in the son, you know, he claims that
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  Speaker 3: he is the original ideator for NCIS TV show.
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  Speaker 2: If you look him up on Instagram.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: In his bio before it says you know, co founder
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  Speaker 3: of cor Advice or correct, but it says founder of
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: NCIS TV show.
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  Speaker 2: And every few.
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  Speaker 3: Weeks he'll go on Wikipedia and try and change it
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: so that it says Anthony, and they keep changing it
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: back because there's no evidence to suggest that it has.
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  Speaker 2: Anything to do with you know, how you could buy
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: a blue tick on Instagram. Now they refuse to give
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  Speaker 2: him one because he claims to be the founder of
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: NCIS and his evidence he keeps sending us these pictures
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: from the nineties of an envelope that was addressed to
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: at the NCIS, which is a naval unit of some description,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: and then a return letter but there's no script. Now
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: to his credit, he does.
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  Speaker 3: Say that he pitched the idea to the guy who
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: ended up going and creating it. But as I always
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: explained to him, an idea is like one percent of
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: the job, right, actually doing it is what really matters.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: So maybe he put the idea in the guy's head,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: but knowing Tony, he would have done that and then
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: taken credit.
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  Speaker 2: For the rest of yes, So anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I can't believe that's not actually a joke. That's
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  Speaker 1: a real story.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real fucking story.
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  Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Do you know one thing I wanted to
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: bring up with you was, I've seen some pics of
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: your exquisite looking garage.
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: Oh well, well, I do have a garage that I
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  Speaker 3: was very proud of up until quite recently when we
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: started meeting some people that had slightly better garages. But yeah,
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: I when I build my house, the main reason that
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: house was ever built was because we couldn't find a
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: house with a garage that big, so I had to
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: build it.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of effort went into that grass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet tell us what's in there in terms
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: of cars? Yeah, I look, the cars, get some dead
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  Speaker 1: bodies and drugs and guns and stuff like that.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: All of it.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me everything. Tell me about those documents that comes
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  Speaker 1: from camera.
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  Speaker 2: I want it all.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I had Italian builders. I'm sure there's some dead
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  Speaker 3: bodies in there. Look, I've got a bunch of cars,
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: and a few of them because I've always wanted them.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: But I guess the most memorable car and there was
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: the first one I ever bought, which is my astamatin advantage.
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  Speaker 3: So that was like the first time I ever had
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  Speaker 3: real money. I bought that car and it was one.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Of the first cars that we ever got.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: A car advice in terms of a proper exotic was
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  Speaker 3: an Asston, and I remember driving it. If I ever
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: get money, it's the first thing I'm buying. And literally,
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: when I got money, was the first thing I fucking bought. Yeah,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: And the problem was it was all my money. So
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: enough today it was like good back to being broke again.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a life changing event. I always tell
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: people like, it's not really the car, it's not the experience,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the driving. It's actually your network and the
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: people you meet through it and how all that changes.
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  Speaker 3: And it really had a big impact on my life.
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  Speaker 3: I'm lucky that I love cars, but being in this
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: industry like yourself as well, picking up cars and returning them.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, there's nothing worse than the thought of
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: getting a really cool car and then giving it.
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  Speaker 2: Back after a week.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually it's a terrible experience because you live in
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: this weird fantasy state where you think you have this
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  Speaker 3: great life with all these great cars, but reality you
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: don't it sucks you get these things, you experienced it
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  Speaker 3: for a week and you give it back. Yeah, it's
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: really depressing actually, So you know, I was really glad,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously after we saw our last business, to
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: have the capacity to buy a couple of the things
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: that I really loved, and that's been an awesome experience.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So we really hope to build this business up now
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: a lot bigger than what Cardis ever was.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: It's cool to see though, like when you can sort
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: of walk down in your garage, especially if you're looking
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: at the aston there is a lot of pride in
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: something like that, where especially just one car in particular.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a whole fleet, but that
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: one thing you kind of go, man, I worked hard
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: for that, Like I really wanted that. That's the one
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: thing I wanted, and I worked hard for it. These days,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: it might not be the most impressive car, might not
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: technically drive as good as some of the other cars
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you mentioned you had a lotus whatever, the point is,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: like you're always going to feel something so good in
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: that car, something so special compared to everything else that's
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I've got a Ferrari, I've got a Lambo.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I've got a going merk. But every time I get.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Into that aston, it reminds me of that feeling of
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: not being broke.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: And it's hard to describe it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: But if you've grown up like Paul and I, or
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: you were broke all your life and then worked hard
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: and got somewhere, like having something to sort of remember
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: it by.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: As I always said to.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: My wife, if we ever like, like, if something really
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: bad happens, don't ever sell that car because that's the
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: one car that I'd like.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: To keep forever. Yeah, it's a great feeling. So can
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: we then also share the story of how much other
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: people like your garage and the story about how some
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: young whipper snappers stole yes in the car but didn't
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: realize the cars were.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: In the In the first two years of being in
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: my house, I've had I've been broken into this three times.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Brisbane is the youth crime capital of the world.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: It really is. We have more car thefts than any
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: other state or when he had a city. If Brisbane's
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: compared to Sydney and Melbourne, it's insane, but we.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Do just because traffic is so bad in Sydney and Melbourne.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: You can't get it, get away.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: But also we just have so much police doing speed
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: camera gudia. They have nothing else to do. They couldn't
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: possibly do any other sort of policing. So yeah, I've
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: had my house broken into multiple times, had a car stolen.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: But thankfully because of the layout of the house, I
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: have two garages and for most people, they don't realize
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: it's the same house. So the front of the house
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: looks like the front of the house where the garages
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: and the only garages, and usually people come in and
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: they just go back there and steal a car. So
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: now what I do if anyone wants to come and still.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Not Yeah, I'm just I'm taking notes and I'm drawing
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: out a little plan.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I genuinely leave the keys.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: For the cars I once stolen, just on the kitchen table,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: So if you ever want to come and get a car,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: just come and take that and leave.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: The rest alone. But it was quite lucky because they
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: took the keys to all his cars. They could have
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: figured out where they didn't realize that they were there.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, so it's like had gone in sixty second scenario,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I think it was two minutes and thirty five.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: They should see the village. The footage is so fucked
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: because these guys somehow got the code for his house.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: And I've got a feeling one of the people that
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: was working on the house because it was shortly after
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you moved in, right, Yeah, yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I had a code for all trades, which is really dumb.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I should have made a code for every individual treaty,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: but it had a code for all trades. Obviously, because
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to wake up at six sem in
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: the morning to let people in to finish the last
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: two weeks in the house before after we've already moved in,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I just gave him the code, just come in, do
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: what you gotta do. Yeah, And then yeah, at some
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: point they came in at one am and did what
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they wanted to do as well.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So they were literally kids. Like you look at these
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: people and you're like, that is like a twelve or
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: thirteen year old kid. That isn't That isn't someone who's
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a sophisticated criminal. That is a kid, mind you, man.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: They got in the car, they unplugged my OBD tracker,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: they took the dash cam off, they knew how to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: turn it on. It was a jag, like you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: if you haven't done a jag. It's a bit different
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: with the rotary dial and everything. Oh yeah, mate. They
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: were in the car and out very quickly.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: You know the best part, they probably watched a car
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: expert review.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: They probably did before. And you know what the other
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: funny poets, I did get the car back.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, so they actually drove this thing out, and.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: They drove it out. I got a couple of speeding tickets.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I reported the car stolen, and the only reports I
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: would get from it was when they sent me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: A speeding ticket.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And I was like, how the fuck can you watch
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: this car drive past, take a photo and then send
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: me a photo a couple of days later instead of
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: actually pulling at the fuck.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: It just really shit me.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I got the car back and there was
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: no damage. And I said to my wife, you would
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: have damaged the car more into.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Two weeks for there just taking it down to save play.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: The wheels were still good scratches. There was no car
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: park bus. They were driving pretty well. I was probably
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: putting proper diesel, like proper diesel.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all things aside, though, what's it like having someone
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: in the house to steal stuff or just like a
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: burglar in general would be bloody, terrifying. And I always
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: find it weird that there's almost laws that are set
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: up to protect them, like you can't just like you
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: can't just grab the cricket bat from under the band
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and lay into their legs like you're the one that
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: gets sued.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I think you can, can't you. I don't think he can.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: It's not on camera.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: So well, the second time they were trying to break
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: into my house, I was up watching F one at
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: like one thirty in the morning and I see this
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: alert on, you know, because I've got all the cameras around.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, a person detected here, person detected there.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And I said, oh, I must be you know, nanny
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: coming home. Then I was like, well, you can't be
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: in four places at once, right, And I clicked on
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: one and it was like a three guys trying to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: get into the door. And I was like, oh, I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: going to go downstairs and going to talk to those
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: young men and tell them, you know, what a what
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: a horrible thing it is they're doing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Choice.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: So in my underway, I ran downstairs and clearly as
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: the elephant that I am I made so much noise
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: on the way down that they spooped and ran right
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and then you know, I called the police. Police came,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and then when I looked at the footage.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I realized that they all had knives.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, and I thought, I'm so fucking glad they ran
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: because this, you know, middle running down the stairs in
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: his underwear against three like fifteen year.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Olds with knives. I would have been stabbed death in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: about ten minutes. Over what a car that they want
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to take for a joy ride like that? Yeah? Look
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to me?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Is that it? Marty? Just found good work, Marty.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: There's wrong with the Mercedes bends though. The doors don't
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: come down for some reason because in every back of the.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: House, so that's the back of the house, and no
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: one realizes that house is actually on two streets.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a nice car. It's cool.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It's that lighting system took so long to make work
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: because it turns on in sequence.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can actually get it to turn on.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't got like a Yeah is that flora POxy
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: or is that like full on tile?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: We never worried about cracking.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: We were really worried about when we put it in.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But it never cracked. So they figured if it wasn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: cracking a week, it's never going to crack, and they
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: were right, it doesn't crack.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Wow, so's not crazy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can see a lotus in the back.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: There is another car in there now that's not in
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that photo, which is my mits Bishi two thousand g T,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, my only Japanese cart, which I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: do love.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Actually entirely overrated, yes, but still cool box. He's a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: still on the waiting list for a Ranger Raptor, yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: and a b y D.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I would still rather have a Seal than a Raptor.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Too much power for him.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You could actually see one single tear rolling down.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: We just we just came from Channel seven's upfronts and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: there was this enormous black ram that's out the front.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: There was a ram tr Rex, an enormous black thing.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And to me, that's you white.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Guys and fascination. Is it just something that you lack personally?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: So did you see doctor Chris Brown your little soiree?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've got to say we've been to a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: few upfronts before.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And those who don't know who aren't in the media
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: game in the beers in the show Bears.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And Upfront is where they basically do an event where
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you have everyone that spends money with you. Sorry, yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: everyone that spends money with you will come so you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: can present to them all than new things you've got
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: for them in the next year, and they commit to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the spend. So Channel seven rolled out literally every single
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: celebrity on their pay roll. They had guy Spash and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: seeing well you have though I noticed I had to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: decline obviously for conflict of interest and stuff like that,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: but so so, yeah, it was. It was quite an
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: epic event and I'm like, even I want to spend
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: money with them now. Yeah, that was it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: That was They did say a couple of things that
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: were quite interesting, and you know, not to speak ill
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: of our parent company, but they did say that more
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: people watch Home and Away than anything on Netflix. No
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: ted Lasso, Ted Lasso, but they did say more people
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: watch seven plus than Netflix, yes, which I was somewhat
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: surprised about. Well, they were saying seven plus had around
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: ten million subscribers, a ten point five so I'm curious
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: how many Netflix has for that to be why.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think Netflix has ever released their figures in fact,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I know that stars who have like, for instance, comedy
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: specials on there, they'll never find out what their their
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: numbers are. They'll always keep thee so.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: They don't even tell the people that have their own
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: shows on me.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: They'll say their comedy special is doing excellent. That's the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: word from Netflix, like officially, Hey you know you're doing this,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: this and this, and they'll they'll never have the actual numbers.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I think they only ever released global subscribe vibels, never
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a region specific.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So anyway, but so, anyway back to business. When you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: saw doctor Chris Brown, did you rip your shirt off,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: flick flex your arms and just be like, check out
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: these swans they're sick.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. They didn't do that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talk out your deck instead and yeah, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that was the end of that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think of this warm? But yeah, So I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: don't even know why we mentioned the seven Front Oh
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the t X. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: by D Seal. So just talking about Cannie's briefly because
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you know why not. So did you go to the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Seal thing? Yes?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I went to the megastore in Alexandria, which is actually
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: a pretty decent setup to be right. I've done a
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: really good job there. It's better than any test the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: story ever walked into.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That's what immediately hit me too was the amount of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: effort they've gone to with presentation that the projectors and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the cars on display.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's it's this is from a company that didn't exist
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: in Australia what two years ago, and you know amazing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: We thought we were going to buy these cars from
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a kmart at one stage, like a Camart car.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got your cars just there next to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the XD Falcon getting new treads.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's getting an oil change there, pad down your
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: your fucking shields, just over there near the year, near
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the poor pish, near the fucking by d Moomade Moomade
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: the whale, right next to that bloody chubby whale.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's Donna from a couch.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Get back in there, donor you're lazy sorry, So that
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: they've given up on that brand for that exact reason.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's not called my car. Yes, so that just by
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: changing it, it's not woke. Yeah, but it's a good
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: looking thing. This hill, I've got it up on the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: screen here. So this is a competitor to the Model
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: three except it's what twelve thousand dollars cheaper?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, forty nine nine ninety plus one roads, so
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: you get on the road for low fifties. If you
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: order one today, you get it in December.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's that's great. Not a bad looking car in there.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I got to say, it's got a bit of tayk
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: on to it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: They hired the was it the old Audi designer? Yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: so that's where that inspiration comes from. But the interesting
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: thing as well is that people bought Tesla's because they
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: were cheaper than established brands that were all over one
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: hundred grand for a sedan or whatever. But I wonder
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: if these guys are going to take the market now
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: because they're pretty close and you mentioned something interesting as well,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: they have specific factories for right hand drive as well.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: The bid success in Australia has come down to the
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: fact that a company called ev Direct actually went over
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: to China and so we're going to invest in help
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: building production lines just for right handwry for our market,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and they actually funded it, which is one of the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: reasons why the cars have come here so quick and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: so fast with Australian specification.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: So that's been an amazing success. Story for them, And if.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You start to think about byd like Pulse that didn't
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: exist two years ago. There, you know last one. I
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: think they did about seven hundred and something sales. As
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a contrast a brand like Polster, which is you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Volvo's offshoot brand no one knows about, they did one
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: hundred and eleven cars, and that is fucking embarrassing.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So didn't they come out and say something about their
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: depreciation rates, Like the depreciation of the Pollstar was just incredible?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Polstar three three, Yeah, yeah, I mean that
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: thing is overpriced to start with. But I just think
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that if you rationally look at a Polestar two compared
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to a Model three now the Seal, there is no
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: logical reason to go and get a Polestar like you
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: would have to be at a thirty thousand dollars fleet
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: discun Like well, unless you're driving an Uber, but why
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: would you not then just go stock up fleets with these?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, whatever the discount is for a Polestar too,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you could go buy brand new one of these from
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you know, kmart, and then.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You go from the show rooms they I reckon they
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: look great. I think they're priced accordingly to.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So what is the starting price forty nine nine ninety
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: plus one roads. That's a better interior than the mode of.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Fact get the light. I think it's like a white
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: or light blue interior. I think you've got the choice
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of but it looks more so white than Pace.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Model comes with high end sound system. Then they're selling
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the Performance Model, which will do zero to one hundred
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and under four seconds. Yeah, three point seven.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I believe even if you like trick this thing up,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you know, by the time you get all the add
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: ons and the long range and all that sort of stuff,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you're still getting it pretty much under a drive away
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: at under sixty yep.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And I think the one that is going to do
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: really well in Australia is the Sealed U, which is
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the SUV's great So when that lobs, that's going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: go up against Model Why, and that will be significantly
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: cheaper than the Tesla. And I'm pretty sure does does
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Tesla use the blade battery.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: The one's coming out of China, I'm not sure. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: know that even Kia's gone to it now they're using
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: for the EV five. They're using the Blade battery out
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: of China, so that the thing that people don't know
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: about b White is that they've been making batteries for
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: thirty years. They're actually one of the biggest battery makers
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: in the world for mobile phones tops in that car,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: so most of the evs actually used byd batteries regardless.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of like well earned excitement
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: about these guys.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great. It's it's not like one
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: of those some Chinese brands made the mistake of coming
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to Australia and not investing a huge amount of money.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: These guys have dropped a lot of cash and they're
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: doing a really good job in terms of selling cars
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and getting people into them that aren't you know, that's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: what test Tesla does well. They're getting people that aren't
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: car people into these things, and that's what you need.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: You want someone that isn't a car enthusiast to drive
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you hones.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: See, some of the established brands would be really fucking worried.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I would be because their brand, like yon Day they
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: were bringing in for I five, you can only get
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like what five a month if they are allocated. Yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: what's the point.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But even a brand like you know, Mitsubishi, which
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: is a great brand and has had some great historical product,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: but the current range of cars just feel like they're
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: not the latest and the greatest, right, but they're still expensive.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: And then you got a brand like MG, and you
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: got a brand like BYD that is not only undercutting
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: them but actually making you know, arguably better product. Oh yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I'd be a little bit worried if I was Midsubishi.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And it's funny that the talk track when we're at
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the Munich Motor Show from all the German brands was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that there needs to be tariffs on Chinese cars because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: they're coming in and just decimating the European car market
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: with cheap cars. So yeah, it's an interesting.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting argument though too. I mean like, when
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: somebody is bringing better competition to the table at a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: more competitive price, then fuck, all you can do.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Is cry tariffs and taxes. Get your acts together. Absolutely,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: If you can build this thing in China and ship
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it to Europe and it's still cheaper than the car
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you're manufacturing in Europe, yeah, that just tells me you're
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: not doing your business.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: This is how the luxury car tax came about because
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: of that mentality. Well, we better stop all these other
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: brands from taking away sales from Australian cars and guess what,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: they didn't work because we built shit cars here and
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: eventually people stopped buying them.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: What is true? True, it's true, you know, but that
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: has not disappeared. So that's three hundred million dollars a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: year roughly that the government is pulling in for doing
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: nothing and protecting nothing.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Well, three hundred million dollars if someone's gotta pay for
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that referendum somehow.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, good spend of money. That was.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go, you old bitches.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Oh girl, I'm from Queensland. We had sixty eight percent
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: vote again.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But really, yeah, Victoria was interesting and is Pauline Hanson going.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Just around the quarter from you? Really?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You five fish and chips from the shop.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think you'd tell it to me.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Like a big fan of your Pauline.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: About three sheets too dark, it's right wow.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Actually, speaking of EV's, you're about to get a little
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: bit of muller back from the what's not a new
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: EV tax, but it's you're basically getting your EV tax back.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look out our premier or former premier Victoria.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: He's still alive, by the way, Linda hasn't cleaned him
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: up yet.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Okay, he was last set in New York.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: There's a great photo him looking homeless going through a cone.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: That's right, and I thought, that's where you belong. That's
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: precisely where he needs to be.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So basically the key thing is the Andrews government brought
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: in the most ridiculous thing in the world, which was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a tax on electric vehicles. And it was I think
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the dumbest part of this was that it was a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: tax on not only full electric vehicles, but it was
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a tax on plug in hybrids. Now you have no
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: ability to tell how much I've driven a plug in
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: hybrid on electric or petrol. It's impossible to tell unless
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: you log it, and it just doesn't work. So what
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you had to do with an EV was put in
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the amount you'd travel into the VIC Road's website and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it would send you a bill for each calomity you'd driven.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And anyway, a couple of road users thought that it
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: was a bit shit and they took it to the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: High Court. And as far as I know, I don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: know enough about this, I know we got to whatever
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: is just beneath the High Court with our case. But
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you can't appeal beyond the High Court. I don't think
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that's like the top unless there was like an error
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: in law or something like that, you can't go. I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: going to appeal it to the whatever above the High
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Court that is the highest. So these guys were successful
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: in appealing that, and now what's going to happen is
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: they will have to refund not only all of the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: fees they've charged, they will also be responsible for the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: court costs of these road users that when you say
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: dare you mean you as the Victorian tax bill. Yes,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And the slide issue is we don't have any money
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: in Victoria and we have.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Because you locked up for two years and you were
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a mask in.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: A car by yourself. That could be part of it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Small business perhaps, yeah, that's it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: We could to take our kids to playgrounds. It has
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: something to do with that. But anyway, the crux of
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it is that they need to pay this back. Now
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: in Victoria is so in debt that each year we're
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: paying and I don't know the exact figure, but it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in interest each year for the debt that we're in
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and this is now just going to get added on
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to it. We've got the Comwealth games that they botched
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like it is it is really that Dan andrews ketch.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You safe doing?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, aren't you glad?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I mean we're here in Brisbane. We had like I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: think what three weeks of lockdowns and probably a lot
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of weeks of sunshine. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, that's that's
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: another podcast. But they talk a lot about that. But anyway,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: great news for Victorian EV drivers. And can I just.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Challenge this thought? Yeah, going, why shouldn't he be owners paid?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I agree? So here's my thing. I don't pay anything
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: in fuel subsidy, and fuel subsidy goes towards roads, hospitals, education,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. Speed cameras, more speed cameras. Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: What I think that we should have is a flat
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: rate for everyone, regardless whether you're in an EV or
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: a passenger car or whatever. You just pay per kilometer
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the way, if you drive lots, you pay lots, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: if you don't drive much, you don't pay much. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: then they remove remove the fuel subsidy. Couldn't agree more?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: How can you?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: How can you police that at per kilometer?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Though? Well you do, stupid system they have here. You
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: know you ordered Its simple.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: If you bring in mandatory roadworthies every year, then every
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: time you have to get a road with it, they
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: have to put in new kilometers and then.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Every year in some states you do South Wales is yearly.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: You have to get a roadworthy every year.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Do it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: If your car's over three years old. They believe you're
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: allowed to talk money after three years. Yeahs over three years,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: over three years old. Each year you have to Oh, God,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: you grew up poor, didn't you. You never had this
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: was your dad.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Driving a rolls roy.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I hang on. Okay, First of all, I grew I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: grew up in Melbourne, right. Secondly, i've been in Okay,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: so I've been in New South Wales for by the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Beach nearly ten years. Yeah, that's it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: But fucking opera houses in the way only had eight
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: bedrooms going up.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And it was literally.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Like Tony a co Fender.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: We're coming from a guy who we literally just looked
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: into your garage. Calm down, Ritchie rich Tony's thing was that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He grew up poor. And we're on one of our
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: investors boats on the water in Sydney and he goes,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I grew up just over there, and he pointed towards
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: this headland and I'm like, Tony, I thought you said
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: he grew up poor. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, it
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: was just behind the trees and behind the trees he
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: had mega mansion the water. And this guy used to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: tell us how POI was.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: And then at one point he admitted that his dad
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: us told drive to school in these roles right, because
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: oh but.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It used to break that all the time.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, that does not make you poor.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Rule wow, But no, I do think everyone should have
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to pay per kilometer because then you replace the fuel subsidy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And the other problem is the fuel subsidy. As you
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: get more EV's on the road and cars become more efficient,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that's going to diminish anyway, so you've got to have
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: something to replace it. And this is a fair system.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I think this works. And then if they do want
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to do EV subsidies and whatever, which I don't love
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the sound of. So New Zealand just got a new government.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: They got rid of the other one retired whatever her
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: name was, and then they replaced that's it, and then
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: they replaced her and then they ousted that government as well.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: They've just repealed what they called the ute tax over there,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: which was basically an EV subsidy, and then it forced
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: people into EV's problem was there were no EV utes,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: so if you had to drive a dual care for work,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: you were basically penalized because that is the only vehicle
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you can buy. So I think subsidies should only come
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: when you have a full range of electric vehicles that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: give you an altime.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Why should people be forced into an EV. I just
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: think text people for a kilometer regardless of what.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: They don't need to force them into it. But if
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you want your incentives, then you can just use your
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: incentives through the taxation system of a few lovers. No,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I don't expect subsidy. I don't want any subsidies buying
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: EV because I don't actually know why I brought it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But it's just buying EV.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: What did I love the fact that you did buy
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that and now you just pay it out? I don't
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: know it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I also, did you really did it? I also bought
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: them all a white I had it for about eight
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: or nine days till my wife drove it for about
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: a week in a bit, and then it got about
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: eight percent charge and she just left it in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: shopping center, and I said to her, you do realize
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: it's a reusable item, right, it's not a one time
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: disposed of car. You know you can actually reacharge. Because
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I haven't got time to recharge these things. You're gonna
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: have to come pick it up when you get back.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: It was like, I can't to fucking leave the current
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: shopping center. She's like, I'm too scared to driving home.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: It's going to run out of charge. It's like, fucking hell.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That's so I had to come home.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I was overseas, picked it up and then I saw
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: it and I put in the ad when I saw
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: it never recharged.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Really, it's got a great battery.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: But when you sell a Ferrari a convertiblel say never
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: do it in the rain.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: For me, it was like, never fucking reach out. Well
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: would you just based on your short ownership? Did you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: like the technology? Though?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I liked?
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: What one thing that really freaked me out and I'll
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: talk about it here.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Although the person probably listens to this.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: We have a couple of Tesla people that follow us
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: on Instagram, and my car had this bug in it
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: whereby it just kept dropping out music or some fucking
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: thing wrong with it, and I mentioned it on Instagram.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I put a story up saying, oh, you know, my
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: car's doing this. It fucking keeps disconnecting it. And then
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: about an hour and a half later I got a
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: message from a guy that works a test and say, oh,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: no worries, mate, I logged in and I fixed it
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: for you. I'm like, oh, okay, that's kind of fucking weird, dude,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The fact that you.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Can log into my car remotely and probably tell exactly
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: where it is at all times, yeah, which.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Of course it does. It tracks. They even we did
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a news story on it. Tesla employees were looking at
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: camera footage from the live camera footage that you can
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: now do through your phone of customers and they had
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: footage of a bloke walking pastes can't nake it, and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that was footage that they were sharing amongst.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Them were are you doing that now?
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: But it's kind of like weird, right, It is kind
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: of weird, and I kin kind of fiak me out
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: that I don't know if I want a car where
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: people can randomly just just happen to work at a
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: car company, which is kind of like not.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: That hard to do. Work with Tesler they probably have
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: lots of employees that have access to whatever that system
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: was that he had access.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the reasons why, you know, I've
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: got eighteen Ring cameras at my house. I don't have
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: any inside because I don't trust Ring employees not to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: log in and look at it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I do find it weird that they can log in
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: without like you know how you can do screen permission share,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like they can do that without doing any sort of
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: permission stuff. That's so weird.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Look to me, the tech, I
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like the tech. If the tech was shit, I would
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: have known it because it's ugly and it has.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Lots of well you were paying out the Even the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: new one I reckon. Look, I get the kind of
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: camera vibe on them. But I still think the new
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: one is a good update.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's smarter. Is a fucking head up displayer.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why they're resisting that and and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: needs the indicator stiff back.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Moving that to the steering whell was just the most
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: idiotic thing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: That's weird. That's when they did that yoke for like
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: two Yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It's like a Ferrari sh Yeah, Ferrari so why would
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you find like nice? But yeah, so that's the ev tax.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: It is gone. And the good news is if you're
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: in New South Wales and I think w A was
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: talking about this as well, they're going to see that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: this has been challenged and they probably won't go ahead
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: with it. So Victoria took one for the team. We
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: went into even more debt, but it looks like New
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: South Wales and w A is safe.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: They're good like that, thank you for they're good, but
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: they're just they're very good like that. I wanted to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: talk about MG four because we've recently just all jumped
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in one. Not the same one. That's weird.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It did stank quite a lot.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: We actually have that one downstairs, the orange one. Yeah,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and a sexy shade of looks like traffic cone orange
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: was blue.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: That's a lambo color. It's called a borealis.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I'mious, EXA's the fucking color. You don't call it volcano orange.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: There you got cute G four. I like the look
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And that blue is Miami blue. It's bored from Porsche.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. That's the colors that picked ah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I thought that was from a Lambeau as well.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: That looks like a lambo blue. Is Brixton a suburb
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: in the UK?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: A UK vibe? You know they're still going with that coat.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Also, it's like it's kind of not UK anymore nasty,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you know that. It's a lot better now. Well, guess
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the thing that guy's fucking working. I see all those
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: old mgs driving around. I'm like, I could not think
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of anything worse to drive, really, I'd like one my
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: old man.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Did them up when he was like sixteen, and there's
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: pictures of like old tfs and stuff, and he was
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: putting fucking pipes around the sides of them, changing like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the front to like this chrome hideous But that's how
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and nim god bye.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And they got into the rolls then yeah then.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Well no, they built their own cars and that's how
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: poor they were.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Is your garage of a view of the whole harbor? Yeah,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that's it. They saw all the cars coming in on
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the boats.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents aren't from sydney're very poor.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Mummy. Where's our servant this morning?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good point. Where's my fucking milkshake?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: This is a great car, I think at the entry
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: level at thirty eight grand. We drove the long range
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: seventy seven, which is like a top spectrim starts to
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: get up there. Well, it was only a few thousand
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than a Model three, and at that point
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: a Model three is just a bit more refined and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: has better tech. But if you have a look at
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: all this seven year warranty, it's fairly quick. Reel will
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: drive dynamically. It's great. The ride is good. Yeah, I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: don't know about the ride, man, I know that I
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: was a little bit firm. Have you driven a Model three, yes,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: compared to a Model three or a Model Have they
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: fixed it in the new one? Partially? Right, yeah? Partially.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: This is a really good look.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think design wise it looks really great.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: The led headlights, it's so.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Many of these on the road.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: No really, Yeah, in Brisbane it must be like fucking
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: going crazy because like every third car looks like an
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Energy four. Now a lot of orange ones too. We
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: just have a thing for orange and Brisbane. I think
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: it's because we're happy people.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like bright colors.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, happy. No no traffic, no lockdowns, just what the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: fuck are lots of crime drivenile crime, share the cars.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It's share cars, that's right.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when can you have it? Well, just whatever
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the fuck you want?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Really, he literally just advertised where his keys were sitting,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I mean every night of the week on the kitchen table.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something for them. Don't damage the wheels, yeah, or
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: stabbing to do? If I come down and talk to you, just.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Go yeah, look for under forty thousand before drive away.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I look at a car like that, just some looks alone.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I think it looks great.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: And again in Brisbane you get a six thousand dollars
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: incentive to buy one. Six thousand dollars That makes bring
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: a price down to free. Yeah, yes, that is so cheap.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yaris. Yeah, you'd be crazy not to buy that. Actually,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: what do you think about Toyota resisting electric vehicles? Do
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you think longer term it's a good strategy.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's a terrible idea. And I think
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Turto has been resting on his laurels for so fucking long.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: At some point they need to get some point. Yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: they will pay for it, and it's not yet, but
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: they were at some point.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Didn't they just do the high locks, don't you?
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: No?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't James in our Melbourne office driver. It has
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a driving range of two hundred kilometers and they haven't
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: stated payload or towing or whether it will do either
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of those things. What is the point? So how much
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: is it? They haven't announced that either, but they're boasting
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: that they will use it in Thailand as a taxi.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So they load like twelve people onto the back of
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it with a canopy and I'm.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Like, serious, how is it?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But what's that good to do with Australia. That's old.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You can't do that. They're going to use it for
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: uber pool Thailand. Just sit in the back of your
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: co all right, real quick, MG four. I think it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: an impressive car for the price. It's got a good warranty,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it actually drives, okay. I think the road noise is
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a bit.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It is actually a bit noisy. I actually did notice
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that when we ran the dB meter on it, it
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: was it was a bit sort of because it is
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: so fucking quite otherwise, right, that's the theory. But I
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe the insulation or something. I don't know.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It feels everything does feel a little bit tinny, like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: some guys.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: We're doing this a couple of years ago and some
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: are still doing it now with that. Noise cancelation is
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: so simple. It's a simple fucking microphone that listens and
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: then you know, does the opposite of the sound waves
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: through the speaker.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And you can't hear anything else. I wonder if that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: technology got expensive because Ford in the Okay, yeah, so
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Ford used to have it in the Ranger and then
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: they deleted it and just didn't mention anything. And a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: lot of cars now have removed it. And I don't
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: know why that's the case, because, like you said, a
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: few years ago, it was a thing. It was the
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and it was really good. It worked. Yeah, yeah, it
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: must be a patent thing. Yeah, I reckon something funny's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: gone on there with a patent or something, because.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Well, Tesla's new Model three is apparently really quiet, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: they've got like acoustic glass on everything, and the.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Acoustic glass Ford Yess also have that and they removed
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: it because it was expensive. So I think all of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: this stuff is just gradual cost cutting to make the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: production of the car cheaper. And perhaps some of it's
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: been affected by semiconductors and other stuff like that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: The glass has a lot of semicon.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe the machine that makes the glass.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So have we sent merchandise yet? I know I
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: can't bringing this up?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Oh so that was our MG four. Um, yes, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: can call our merch guy right now if you're on.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Can I get some? Yes, we need to get you some.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, I would love it would be honestly,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I would love to see you drinking out of a mug,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: not so much with my face on a Paul's face
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: on it. That would be amazing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: So John Couldogan took a mug.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and John Cadogan took a mug. In every video
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: he puts up of him complaining about fucking three will
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: run away and ship I'm just looking in the background
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: from her mug. I'm like, where's my fucking mug that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I gave you?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: John a.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Fucking ship down? Where's my fucking mug?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: John? He's hilarious.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I love the guy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: That episode was so fun. It got us into a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: lot of trouble, but it was so it was great fun.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Here we go. You can telemarketer. His name's.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Fistol waters Hey, Gussie, how are you?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I told you? He talks like a Bond villain?
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Should we tell him? We were recording a podcast, so
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: he knows not to well, ought to swear.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, he can swear. Give me some swearing in Croatian.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: In Croatian, I can do in Brazilian Portuguese.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I was very close.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: How are you man, I'm not too bad. I'm not
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: too bad. We moved to a new warehouse, so every
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: is boxed and being unboxed at the moment.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Brazilians do love boxes, that's right.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can do some unboxing of our merge sometimes.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Well, yes, I think I owe you a couple of
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: cases of I think we talked about the mugs and stuff.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: But oh sure, I remember we talked about an eight
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: ball and hookers. Yep, that too.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I tell us about Machine's Plus all right.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: So I'm being a graphic design in my entire life.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: And when I came to Australia in two thousand and two,
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: I started to work with sign writers and then I
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: was invited to work for some of the main manufacturers
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: of large format printers in the world, so Canon Abs
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: in Roland, and he got into appointed that I decided,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: you know what, I think I needed to do this myself.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: So ten years ago I created Machines Plus, so a
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: different way to sell large for my printers round than
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: just selling people a box. I went, I'm going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: do something different. I'm going to teach them how to
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: use it. I'm going to teach them how to get
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: the best out of it. And ten years later, here
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: I am, I'm still going strong killing it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Have you got a jingle like Machines plus no Fuss or.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Now? We call it a creating with you, So we
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: create with people. So I allow people to create things.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Oh I like it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Well, we've created some merch from these legends, and it
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: sounds like it's on the way for our listeners. You're
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: a bloody legend, Gus.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Dairy legendary, and I hope that you're not lacked toosing tolerant.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I told you that's good. I like that. Well, we're
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: sorry for calling you, so, I like, we were just
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: like recording the pod cast and we thought, you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: let's just give him a buzz and see what he's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: up to.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Oh cool, Thank you, all right, Chat soon, chat soon,
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: see you guys.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Anyboddy, can I show you the photo of when Paul
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: calls me? It is the greatest I've ever seen in life.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Call elbows fla it's fella you fuck.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have better tits than my wife. Jesus,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Holy heck.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Beneath that is a six pack.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody VB. What are you smuggling more rolls in
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a bakery?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: He didn't notice his name at all.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I couldn't, sorry, I thought he was stealing some sultanas
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: he out under his shirt.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, a girl in high school stuffing
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: dishes and the accepting of dishes want to take the
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: dishes out. I think that's probably the greatest bat I've
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: ever taken.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Actually, at least how long have you been, Bloody wearing
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that Lorna Jane sports bra.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: A man bro Jesus.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: His name was on my phone, he said, his Electric Jesus,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: which is a gift from John Cadogan many years ago.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: He called them in a video Electric Jesus.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: We should go through some of these some of the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: stuff on the DM, yes, real quick.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Fortunately the DM he got from the AI bot that
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: he thought with the lady following him, Yeah, yeah, See,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Paul has this weird conception that is an.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Attractive dude I've noticed, and he got this.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Random follow from this girl that clearly was way out
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: of his leg by.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Like a factor of fifteen. Yeah, and he's going, look at.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: This man, and I was like three seconds of research
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: and it's an AI model and I'm like, dude, that
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: chick is so fucking hot it has to be fake.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And there's no way a real chick like that would
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: follow you.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So wasn't it just a female face put on that
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: photo that you on your phone?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Her body wasn't.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: As good in reality? He just couldn't wait to pull
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: his pants off his own reflection. All right, lets check
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: out Damns real quick, Bigodator Jerry Dilga Dilga Dilda Jerry
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Dilga Dilja. Good on me. I can't read Love the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Podfall has always been a big fan of Paul's male
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: friendly YouTube Yep Wow Love Talk God. He seems like
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the fucked up friend we all need. Excuse me.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Friends pushing it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: You guys were talking about this and having shitty infotainment
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: got me wondering, have you ever done a breakdown or
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: could you do a review on good infotainment? That sounds
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: like a big challenge.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Actually that exists on our YouTube channel. We did when
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: we had the medium SUVs. We did an infotainment comparison,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: it was an absolute flop. No one kid, right, it
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: is there.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It's interesting though there's some there's some brands that for me,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I don't really like their infotainment setup.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: But here's the deal, right, if it has car play,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, yes, exactly.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: But I reckon that it should all generally roll into
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: things like air con and stuff like that, like if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you like physical buttons and otherwise, if you're using a
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Volkswagen product with.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even light up at night. There's no light
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: behind it when you get in the car. And now
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I guess I'll just fucking die of
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the heat.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You right old freeze to death. Be too hot.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I was going to say Trevor and his Coopra. He
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: did come in here sweating, but Trevor always sweats.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: So it was a short walk from the door to
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the seat. Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Interesting one about their infotainment. I don't know. I think
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: it's very dependent on manufacture automotive groups.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Elbow said, if it's got car Player, Android Auto,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's got Android or just get an
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: iPhone and you'll have car.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Plays and definitely get wireless Apple Car plays something with
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: wireless Apple.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I never experienced the car with Apple couple that wore
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: it exactly.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, they all drop out toll toll gantries for some
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: reason interfere with it. It drains your battery quickly. And
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: then if you put it on the wireless charge, ye,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: your phone is molten lava when you take it off.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: We did this road trip and then I eleven three
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: rs and they both have upper wildscar plet and fucking
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: neither car could maintain a connection.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: For more than like an hour.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, my seting is great. What I just bought
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: us sober out back and you were Yeah, anyway, the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: point is I get no interruptions in my super out
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Interesting it could because I'm wearing like denim overalls and
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: listening to Missy Higgins and Nickelback. The lesbians listened to Nickelback.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, given Paul's photo, he should you should know.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: We're talking about infotainment. You know who does good infotainment
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: is the BMW's.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon generally pretty good.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't they have They've got good race tech in it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Please, I actually think that will do the best.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the heads up display and.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I feel while you're driving. That's the other thing. If
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: you want to do something minor, you have to not
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: watch the road pretty much. You have to do that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: just to see how fast you're going. Well that's a
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: good point, yeah, but actually be worth I know we're
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: gonna chat about this, but I'll very quickly pointed out
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: we did a road trip in a pair of GD
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: three hours is a signal yellow and a ruby baster.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: We basically drove them brand new to fifteen hundred kilometers
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: to run them in for the launch, and because Melbourne
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: to Adelaide launchers at the bend was about eight hundred k's,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: we thought, well it's just let's go scenic and we
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: drove down the coast to Portland. It was nice.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Did you see did you stop off and see Donna
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: on the way? She was in Regional Australia around that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: way leg over.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Then stayed at Mount Gambia. And that's probably the one
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and only time I need to do that in my life.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Like one guy actually said to us, were fueling both
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: cars up, and he was a roadworker. He goes, you
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: guys lost, and I sort of just laughed a little
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: bit and he goes, if I were you, I wouldn't
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: be sticking around here. And I'm like, okay, that's fair enough,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: we'll get.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: The full You need the Adelaide Hills because they chop
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: people up and put them in barrels. That's no fact.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Paul then into a few fucking barrels. Yeah, that's right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: So I went from back he would have normally just
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: turned around and gone. That was just from my penis.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I went from mac Gambia to Renmark, which is sort
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of out back ish stated a caravan park, got recognized.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Right, which is great, and by dinner and then yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Drive to the bend. So that was That was heaps
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: of fun. That videos now live on YouTube, so make
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: sure you go check that out. I threw a banana
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: at elbows. He then tried to throw one back at
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: me while driving, so that was fun.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Wow, antics can't wait to see this video for a banana.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Well, last time he actually hit me in the head
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: while I was driving, which is pretty dangerousus.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it to hit that. It hit fucking hard.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: But by the way, when you have a car like
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the GT three RS, I remember driving it thinking it's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: such a brilliant, well engineered in every aspect car. You
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: really appreciate the price in a way. But you can't
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: drive that thing every day. What's your thoughts? Can you
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: drive that every day? Is it a daily No?
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Is it too rough? No?
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I mean there's no storage, so there's nothing in the front,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: there's nothing in the back, there's nothing behind the seats
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: because the fucking roll cage. So if you genuinely had
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: one single calls back, it needs to go on the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: passenger seat, which then makes it beat because it says
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: there's no one fucking sitting.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a seat and then you put it
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: down there in the foot well and it's just like
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: a around. Yeah.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: So no, you can't drive it every day, But no
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: one that buys that car doesn't have another car.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: The bigger issue for me was the gearing. Seventh gear.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I only got seven gears and at one hundred and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: ten ks an hour, it's doing like three thousand rpm.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: It is so loud. Mean to sit in a highway,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: but if you're driving to the track or something, you
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: drive it for an hour. We drive it for like
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: sixteen hours in total on highways, and very I drove.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: It properly wherever I wasn't trying to do the red
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: limitter and Paul drove it like an idiot.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Well that was the story, right, It was who can
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: run in their car the best? And then we would
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: finish the video with the drag race to see who
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: ran it in the best and that car would be quickest.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: So the results were interesting, cheated as usual. No, No,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Paul is just a superior driver, a supurious specimen in
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: every way.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Do you want a bucket for this
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: pissing context? Which car do you reckon?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Has?
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Which normal car? So I'm not talking supercars. I'm not
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: talking like Ferrari, Lambeau Porsche. But a normal car maybe
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a BMW M three could fall into this that has
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: good solid race tech.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: The three four definitely. What do you mean by race
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: tech though.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean a lot of a lot of these cars,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: especially like the sort of hot hatches and stuff. They'll
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: have cute little race tech in there, like they'll, you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: stuff for the track for instance, you and Dae's doing
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that track time.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the BMW because they allow you to do You've
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: got the drift analyzer, you can do variable traction control,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: you can set it to re will drive like that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of stuff you can do in that,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: but you can't do another drift mode and stuff.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But the mgs have got a version of that now too,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: you know, with the new sixty three that supposedly no
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: one wants to buy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: There's a good reason for that. But yeah, I reckon
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: BMW is probably pretty good.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: It's not a really great car, by the way, that's
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: sixty three just doesn't have a v in in anymore.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I drove it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: It's one of the fastest things if you drank the
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: cool the same almost as quick as a Ferrari four.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And eight from a hundred two hundred, and it almost
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: weighs as much as the highlights. Literally.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's not the fastest car around the bends.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: But most people that drive that car, they just want to.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: It makes no interesting noises. That's the problem that most
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: people that buy that car.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: It's all about the eight and I loved hearing it,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: but it is if you take the sound out, it's
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: a more superior car.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: You could argue that the sound makes it like I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: don't reckon generally forget about like the EV six gts,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: like the standard stuff I'm talking. I haven't really driven
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: a high performance ev well.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I mean the only real ones are like a tykwid Tobo.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: S Well, that's that's probably the only one that's half enjoyable.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I think generally, it's like it's just a bit crap.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Having driven that car a lot, you do the you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: launch control two or three times, or when someone new
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: gets in the car, and then you drive it like
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: a normal car because there's no emotion attached to it
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: gets boring. You don't need to and it actually makes
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: you feel sick when you accelerate that quick because it's
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: fucking fast. Because you don't have the sound to go
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: with it, your body can't really work it out.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I do wonder if that's because we've grown up with
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: sound and maybe kids now will think that's normal, so
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: therefore you don't feel unwell.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Sad though, It's like if someone puts like your favorite
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: food in front of you. You see it and you
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: can taste it, so that's pretty much all you get,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: but you don't get say, the texture and the smell,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Like there's so much when you're in a car that's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: more than speed, you know what, I mean like you
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: want to hear it, you completely feel.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Everything a sense, yeah, in a few senses because the
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: sound and the vibrations and the gears and there's so
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: much going on in a naturally not even naturally just
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: a normal car that you don't get from an EV
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: But that is the times.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, Actually there was one thing I wanted to mention.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: So apparently there is a rumor that BBC is filming
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: an Australian top gear.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, really like an Australian top kick because BBC
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: just canned the famous top kick in the UK out
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Freddie Flintoff.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: What was like nine million pounds they'd pay him for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: lost earnings. Actually I thought it was more, but yeah,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: so he basically got severely injured and has two years
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: of lost earnings and they've given him a stack of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: money out of that. But apparently they're about to start
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: filming it now and apparently the rights How do you reckon?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Richard Hammond would feel about that though, given that he
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: like nearly he nearly died, plutty much died and he
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: got like severe brain injuries, he would.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Have it in his contract flint Off for something like that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: But so what they're saying is that Channel ten is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: going to pay for a show, but then it'll be
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: on a streaming service as well.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Ran a story on this, we can't we can't mention
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the name.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: A publication ran a story on this and on Facebook
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: they were asking who should host it? My name is
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: mentioned about seven times this guy, So I'm not going
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: to be on this show. But what do you reckon?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Who do you think that? I think you do well
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: on that show? Paul?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: I have absolutely I've got to say, more people watch
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: your YouTube than anyone watch Top Television.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Thing yea or Doctor Doctor Creed. But yeah, it is interesting.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I wonder how Daniel would be good on that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: It would be great, but it's a seven talent so
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: that wouldn't work.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: You know, who genuine is gonna watch it?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Watch? No one would like first one, And in Australia
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: it's different. They destroyed a bunch of cars in the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: first one and car manufacturers like, no, this is ship,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: We're not doing this anymore. So so yeah, I think
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: that ultimately that's going to be the thing that prevents
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: it from working. So also the lack of fucking budget,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: like and the you know, like top g UK and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: it's heyday. They were spending was it three four million
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: pounds an episode? And the and like you know that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: episode that in Japan where they drove the cars, the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: GDRs and across. Now, they had a crew go over
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: a month in advance filming everything prior to the guys
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: showing up, and I've got to say some man amazing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: shots of the whole Thing's not gonna fucking do that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: for top gift, right. People don't understand when you film
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: a sequence where they're driving a long distance, you can't
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: It's not conceivably possible to do it and film it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: at the same time. So you literally have to do
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: it all twice.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're literally yeah, one for the one for the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: b roll and the scenery shots, and the other one
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: is for the task.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: And then the other giveaway as well is whenever you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: see a car that's in a driving shot, whether it's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: a fast driving shot or a slow driving shot, it'll
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: have a polarizer on the windscreens. You can't say who's driving.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: And then that means they can have the talent do
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: the talking inside the car, make it look like they're
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: doing that, and then all of the exterior footage is
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: someone else driving shot at a totally different time anyway,
• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Gus is working on some merch, some merch that after
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: that story.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And then there's a guy who will we're going to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: call up. I don't know if we're going to have time,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: but he runs the Australian Drift School and he was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: going to offer I said no a joel h No.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I think his name's Fernando oh Alonzo.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: No, let me find him.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he runs Drift School Australia down at Sydney
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Motorsport Park. He's like, God, come down.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: This will be interesting. Can you please video that? Can you?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine one of our first major incidents.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be able to get him off a yacht.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: One of our first major incidents at Caroos was Tony
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: attending to drift an FPV and then hitting the gutter.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: So hard he drifted it just into a gutter, yeah, and.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Broke the rear axle and fucked the car and Ford
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: bannits for like a year, and no one fucking told
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: me that it has happened for like three weeks, and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck we fucking idiots doing?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: You know, like, why would you drift the car on
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: a fucking public road? And most importantly why would you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: give it to You can barely steers straight?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: So you're going to go do some drifting?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I believe that. Should we quickly call him? If
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: we've got time, We've got two seconds, let's quickly call him.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting guy. I think he used
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to be like an Australian champion.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Or something, right Australia speaking.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing, bro? I'm good man. Hey, I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: got your I got your message. I got your message
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: about about drifting, and you reckon you can teach me
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: a thing or two about drifting, huh.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: I see that Paul seems to have some grasp on it,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: and you're really struggling.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: This is music to my ears. Unfortunately for old mates
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: over here, he is utterly hopeless. So I think you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: could teach everyone, but just not him.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: Okay, all right, well there's no there's no such thing
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: as hopeless. Surely we can get something out of here.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I think specials Maurice terminology. I think you can put
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: special stickers on the car for.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Those Fernando tell us about what you do, and I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: guess how you teach people how to drift?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: So we I mean we take people from all levels.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: We even had a bunch of people turn up to Yeah,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: let me tell you quick story we've had. We had
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: one instructor to come up to us and go, are
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: you are you guys taking a piece? And we're like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: we're talking about it. Guess I just I just had
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: five people in a row that didn't know how to drive.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Manual I had to give anual lesson. Are you guys
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: putting them in my car on purpose? And we're like, no, man,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: it's just by a coincidence. But so that told you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: that we get people from all levels, all walks of life,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: all backgrounds, and yeah, we do our best to teach
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: them how to drift, and we you know, most of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: the time we do get them across the line in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: the given time that we've got obviously, So yeah, I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: believe we've got hope for everyone. And yeah, we can definitely.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Help help aud out.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I reckon I can do it. Where is lacking Yes,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: the thing is you reckon. You can get me doing
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a figure eight by the end of like four hours.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: I have no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. I see
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: pauls pretty good with the donuts, the continuous donuts.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Let's maybe start let's.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: Crawl before we can well, let's crawl before we can walk.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: Let's get you doing some donuts first, continuously, and then
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: we will look at the figure rates.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: After that piece of Pierce La Troba University car park,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I could fucking sell you a Crispy Cream factory.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: Impression.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: All the thirty year old girls with those handbirds.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're not allowed to mention that. Well, I'm excited
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: to see this. We're going to make sure that we
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: get the video of we'll get it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I think we'll get him in because we can analyze
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: footage and we can do all sorts of stuff. And yeah,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you man, Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: Definitely, definitely. Look, let's get you out there, let's get
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: it all happen, and let's get you in and now
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: those cars and then sit down and discuss where you
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: improved where you're at, and yeah, we'll move forward from there.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Just a quick one for people who want to join
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: me on the day.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Where are they going?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Give us the links?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: So ww dot or School Australia dot com. We we're
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: out next on November eighteenth.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I believe it is.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: We've got some spots available, but they do sell out
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: pretty quick.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll see you down there.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Man. You can't wait.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: Thank you. I can't wait to get you. They mate,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: and I'm really looking forward to it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: See Fernando, thanks for the guys.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Thanks yeah dot com website, but I do find the quick.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah's got to make sure you get the right one.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: But I'm looking forward to seeing. That's a that'll be interesting.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: So wait, join us on our next episode where we
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: analyze this.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be shaving my head and coming in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: like Vin Diesel.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Vinda doesn't atually know how to drive, and that's how
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: you're coming in.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: You were doing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a quarter mile at a time guy, and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: he's all about family.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you win by what albos big
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: cinema fan, So I just want to say big thank
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: you elbows for coming in and having a chat with us.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: It was good fun. So we do this again. Definitely
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: have to listen to this episode. Well, I listened to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: it and going to eat it out.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how it goes, We'll see what you
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: solicitors say, and then I'll come back.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember Paul called me before that Cadan
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: episode said, yeah, so this Candogian episode, I'm like, fucking.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: He said everything I didn't want him to say.
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