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NBA Draft REACTION · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

0:00
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to another episode of Small Ball with Kenny Beachum.
0:04
SPEAKER_02: Man, I'm excited to do today's episode.
0:06
SPEAKER_02: I am just getting back home from an amazing shoot where we went to Bristol, Connecticut, the headquarters of ESPN Studios, and did a live reaction to the entirety of the first round of the playoffs.
0:17
SPEAKER_02: It was an amazing time.
0:18
SPEAKER_02: Me and my guys, we were joined by Brian Winhorst.
0:20
SPEAKER_02: So if you missed that, I'm it's on ESPN's YouTube channel, I think.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: It was fun.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: All you need to know is fun.
0:25
SPEAKER_02: We ended up having like 35,000 concurrent viewers at one point, which is amazing.
0:30
SPEAKER_02: The only time I've ever had over 20,000 concurrent viewers on a live stream was when uh Patrick Williams was drafted fourth overall to the Chicago Bulls.
0:39
SPEAKER_02: That was a solo stream, just me being really sad about that.
0:45
SPEAKER_02: And I remember doing that, and I was like, man, what if what if Patrick Williams is being really good?
0:49
SPEAKER_02: And now they could go back and look at this footage of me being upset.
0:52
SPEAKER_02: Here we are five years later.
0:54
SPEAKER_02: Kind of have an idea of the Bulls who's drafting the back-to-back drafts, people that play his position.
0:58
SPEAKER_02: Not that great.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so we do the entirety.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: We do the entirety of the first round.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: I am running on fumes.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: You know, we had been on set for a total of five hours.
1:06
SPEAKER_02: And I was ready to go back to the hotel because in just two hours' time, I had to wake up to catch my flight.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: And they said, no, Kenny, we got one more show to film.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: So we filmed that show.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: I get back to the tail.
1:16
SPEAKER_02: I sleep for a few hours.
1:17
SPEAKER_02: I get on my flight.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: And normally I'm a guy that can sit down.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: As soon as we get to cruising altitude, the first seven minutes of the flight, I can't sleep.
1:25
SPEAKER_02: But after that, I'm usually, I usually can sleep, not this time around.
1:28
SPEAKER_02: I tell you, I'll let to say, this might be a loopy episode, y'all.
1:32
SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie to you.
1:33
SPEAKER_02: I am running on fumes today, but I knew this couldn't be another episode that we missed because we missed last week.
1:38
SPEAKER_02: My apologies for that.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: And the NBA draft is such an important, important place for NBA fans.
1:43
SPEAKER_02: This is where we all go in with the hope that we're gonna draft the next whoever.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: Some of our teams hit last night, some of our teams didn't.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: This is an amazing time, and this is gonna be probably the most exciting or my best episode because there was a period of time in my life and covering this sport where I was so afraid to be wrong.
2:03
SPEAKER_02: We were doing uh through the wire back in it back then, and we were trying to preview NBA playoff matchups, and I was like, no, I'm not picking anybody.
2:12
SPEAKER_02: I will give you what I think might happen, but I'm not gonna say Celtics in six or Bucks in seven.
2:18
SPEAKER_02: I just didn't like that.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: I realized that that guy's a jackass.
2:22
SPEAKER_02: Being wrong is something that is gonna happen a ton in here, and I got some takes today.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: The NBA draft is a place you're gonna be wrong more likely than not.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: You're you're trying to figure out if 18 and 19-year-old basketball players would turn out to be good players.
2:38
SPEAKER_02: Some of them we just we did an entire preview on, and they're gonna get to the league and play nothing like, nothing like what we just watched them play in college.
2:46
SPEAKER_02: The greatest example of this is our guy, Andrew Nimhar.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: Andrew Nimhar came in.
2:51
SPEAKER_02: I had to go back and re-watch.
2:52
SPEAKER_02: He did not come in as a plus defender, he did not come in as a guy that we thought was gonna be guarding Shea Gilles Alexander in isolation and doing a good job.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: Everybody scouted him and thought that he wouldn't make it to the NBA level as a good defender, and now he's one of the best.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't know these dudes' work ethics.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where their brain is at.
3:08
SPEAKER_02: So again, I say all that to say.
3:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give you some takes today.
3:10
SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna look back on this in two years and say, Kenny, you was bugging because this guy who you weren't high on ended up being great.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: This guy you were super high on is out of the league.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: And I'm okay to take those swings, man.
3:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay to take those swings.
3:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to start this video or this episode with Cooper Flag and Dylan Harper.
3:26
SPEAKER_02: We've known those two guys are going one and two.
3:28
SPEAKER_02: I guess there was a little bit of buzz about what could happen, number two, but a lot of that died within the last week or week leading up to the NBA draft.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: The draft really starts at three, but I still don't even want to talk about it there.
3:39
SPEAKER_02: The biggest thing that happened in this draft, in my personal opinion, is what the Pelicans did.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: The Pelicans, the Pelicans, the Pelicans, you know, I have been crowned a Pelicans hater by a small portion of Pelicans' fandom.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: Little do they know Herb Jones has been one of my favorite players since he was drafted.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Little do they know I'm a big Zion guy because I convinced myself that Zion was going to get drafted to the Bulls when the uh when they had an idea that they might get the first overall pick.
4:08
SPEAKER_02: We didn't get that pick, by the way.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: The Pelicans were so aggressive that when they pulled off the trade to trade up for the pick that ended up being Derrick Queen, I didn't even really react to it on that live stream.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't think anybody on the panel really recognized what the hell they gave up in order to draft Derrick Queen.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to D.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: Queen.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm rooting for him.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: He's a fan of the show.
4:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm uh hopefully we'll have him on one day.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: Really hope that he goes to New Orleans and he plays phenomenally and nobody really cares about what they gave up.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: So what they did is they traded up, right?
4:41
SPEAKER_02: They ended up sending a 23rd overall pick to the Atlanta Hawks and they gave up a 2026 first-round pick.
4:47
SPEAKER_02: And when that dropped, again, we're doing this live stream, and Winhorse breaks the news that they traded a 2026 first-rounder.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: We didn't really think much of it until I got back to the telly and recognized the stakes that are attached to that pick.
4:59
SPEAKER_02: First of all, it is fully unprotected for 2026.
5:02
SPEAKER_02: And is the best pick between the New Orleans Pelicans and the Milwaukee Bucks.
5:09
SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding me?
5:11
SPEAKER_02: Joe Dumar's got this job like two weeks ago, and he's already messing things up.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: This is an insane draft day trade.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: And I I hope that people are talking about it this way because it really is an insane draft day trade.
5:29
SPEAKER_02: Because that 2026 first-round pick that they just gave up, it's it's probably gonna be their own.
5:36
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just basing it on the track record of the team.
5:38
SPEAKER_02: DeJounte Murray is already out with an injury, right?
5:40
SPEAKER_02: Get well soon DeJounte Murray.
5:42
SPEAKER_02: Their star player, Zion Williamson, we know his track record.
5:46
SPEAKER_02: And they just traded for Jordan Poole, a young, okay to decent NBA player.
5:51
SPEAKER_02: They got two rookies in this year's draft.
5:53
SPEAKER_02: Trey Murphy is injured right now.
5:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he's gonna be ready for the start of the season.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: So that piece, like of all the things that were traded on draft night, that 2026 pick that the Atlanta Hawks acquired might be the cream of the crop, the crown jewel of the entirety of the draft.
6:08
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that nuts?
6:10
SPEAKER_02: Now they have to have the utmost amount of confidence that Derrick Queen is the guy that he might be.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Queen's feel for the game is so great.
6:22
SPEAKER_02: And when it comes to drafting, I've usually been a guy that's team draft for feel, right?
6:28
SPEAKER_02: That's something that you cannot teach.
6:29
SPEAKER_02: We can teach some of this other stuff, but can this guy, this guy, have a great feel for the game?
6:33
SPEAKER_02: I think that a lot of the people that ended up being on the Indiana Pacers team, that is a team full of great guys that can that feel their way around the basketball court very well.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, some of the guys, um, I guess Pascal didn't have that early on in his career, but eventually, I guess it is possible to develop now that I'm thinking about it.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: But that's one of the things that's the toughest thing to develop.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Queen, pretty good feel.
6:54
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Queen, pretty good playmaker, pretty good play finisher at the big man position.
7:00
SPEAKER_02: But then you think about what the hell is going on with the rest of the team.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: Like if they just if they just ended up with this pick and drafted Derek Queen, no, no problem.
7:07
SPEAKER_02: But the fact that you gave up that 2026 make me think that you think that you're about to be competitive next season.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: Are we relying on the young Dear Queen to get real PT?
7:17
SPEAKER_02: Are we relying on Jeremiah Fears to get real PT?
7:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm not personally a Jeremiah Fears guy.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I I can see it though.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: Like if he broke off in three years and was great, or four years was great, I understood where it comes from as of today.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: Not my type of prospect personally, but I can understand why you why he goes in this spot.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: So it's not a bad pick.
7:33
SPEAKER_02: It just was so mind-blowing.
7:37
SPEAKER_02: So mind blowing to see them throw that pick in this trade.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: And on the flip side of that, oh my God, Atlanta.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Atlanta just pulled off two trades that I absolutely love for them.
7:47
SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love both of the trades that they pulled off this um last couple days.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: The last one being them acquiring Christaff's Porzingis in the second-round pick, trading away the 22nd overall pick to the Brooklyn Nets that ended up being Drake Powell.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: They trade away Terrence Mann's contract.
8:03
SPEAKER_02: They trade away George Niang in a second, but they get a flyer on Christaffs Porzingis.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: And all of the things that people are reporting about Porzingis, that what he went through in the postseason and everything, or the entirety of the last season is gone.
8:13
SPEAKER_02: He's he's beat it, and now he's getting ready to hoop again.
8:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, and he's looking good.
8:18
SPEAKER_02: So if that's the case, Porzingis is a good basketball player, y'all, on an expiring contract.
8:22
SPEAKER_02: Almost a like a swing worth taking for just a 22nd overall pick, especially when you replenish that 22nd overall pick with a 23rd overall pick when you switch down and then you get another pick in return.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: I just feel like Atlanta's out here willing and dealing.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: They're looking good.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: And they draft Ace of Newell.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: And there's a clip that's going somewhere viral from the draft day, uh draft day where the Bulls are on the clock.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: I asked them to look at me, use camera run for me so I could say, do not draft Ace of Newell.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: Out of context, I was telling the Bulls, don't draft him at 12.
8:51
SPEAKER_02: But him being available at 23 and getting picked up here, actually that's beautiful value for Ace of Newell's basketball player.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: Not only just that, he's a really good fit alongside Trey Young, who like your job as Ace Newell is to be a great energy guy, uh, make some defensive plays.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: I think he's more of a defensive playmaker than a defensive big, if that makes sense.
9:08
SPEAKER_02: So make some defensive plays, catch some lobs, don't do anything out of the ordinary.
9:12
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna be fine in Atlanta.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: That's a beautiful pick.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: I think that they might be the winners of the last four to eight hours because now they're looking at a team in the Easter Conference that's wide open that you can squint and say, like, yeah.
9:22
SPEAKER_02: It also makes me feel like how do I say this without it coming off the wrong way?
9:28
SPEAKER_02: With them acquiring Porzingis, with them acquiring that next year's first round pick, with them having Jalen Johnson back and Dyson Daniels will be there next season and hopefully another great season or a step-up season from Reshae, that this kind of makes me feel like we're getting closer and closer, if it does not work to the marriage in Atlanta being over, or the marriage with Trey Young and Atlanta being over.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm getting I'm I'm saying that if it does not work, because this team right now, at least on paper, is the best-looking team they've built around Trey Young since 2021.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: And with Trey Young being up for a new contract very soon, and Porzigas being on an on a um an expiring deal, this makes me feel like, hey, it's Trey Young.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: We built this team around you that makes actually make sense.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Like some of the other Trey Young teams didn't make a lot of sense around him.
10:12
SPEAKER_02: You know where he is defensively.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: He's a competitor, but he's also my height and he's also my weight.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: So it's only so much he can really do.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: But now we got all defensive Dyson Daniels.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: We got Risha Sey, who again, I still don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, um, who projects very well to be a nice wing defender.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: Jalen Johnson could do that.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: And now we got Porzingis, and now we got Anyeka Kongwell, and you know, they got some more like a decision or two more to make.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: Because I think uh I read this morning that they still have their trade exception that they could use to add another body onto the team.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: So this is on paper, this could be the best-looking Trey Young-led team since 2021.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: And with the Easter conference being as maybe bad or open as it can be, this could be their best chance to make it to the second round or their best chance to not play against the Bulls in a play-in for the 100th straight season.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited about Atlanta basketball.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, I know we had the question on the last episode two weeks ago when somebody asked me who was going to be the team to make the jump, and I was like, damn it, I'm not falling for the Atlanta Hawk propaganda again.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: After these last couple trades, I'm kind of falling for the Atlanta Hawk propaganda.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm just trying to figure out.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: Like again, you just have to be so very sure that Derek Queen is going to be really good.
11:23
SPEAKER_02: But even if he is, the player that he is versus the player that you you have in Zion Williamson, I just don't know how much those two guys will be able to play on the same floor together in an equal winning defensive basketball.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be relying on the young Jeremia Fears to play some minutes, I would assume.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, they already got Jordan Poole.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, of course, Herb Jones and Trey Murphy project to be really good defenders.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, not projecting with Herb Jones, the guys really like that.
11:48
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know if they're gonna have enough defensively to make it feel like like that pick that they gave up is probably a lottery pick right now.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: They traded a future lottery pick to get the end of this lottery pick in the 2026 draft, is supposed to be, and we say this, I guess, every year before we actually know, it's supposed to be one of them ones.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: So the Atlanta just acquired a pick, that could be Cam.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Cam Boozer.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: Could it could it be uh AJ DeMons?
12:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
12:13
SPEAKER_02: I just realized they had something in my hat.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: So that was that was the most exciting thing and interesting thing that happened to me because Joe Dumas, you know, his last hurrah as a general manager or person that makes decisions didn't end very well.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: He built some good teams earlier in his GM and career, but I feel like when the game evolves, you gotta get them old heads out of there.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
12:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking about another organization in the back of my head.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm talking about.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: You gotta get them old dudes out of there.
12:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, but they hired the new old dude after what he did with his last.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: That's that's oh, I don't like that at all.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh so yeah, my least favorite thing to happen for the Pelicans, my favorite thing to happen for the Atlanta Hawks.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: I think that one of the super interesting things that Ace Bailey picked, Ace Bailey and his camp, not Ace Bailey himself, but his camp, because he said he had nothing to do with it.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt there, even though I don't believe it a damn thing there.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh tried their very best to position themselves to end up in a different destination.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: Did not work out for the Utah Jazz.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: Basically was telling them, don't draft me.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: And Danny Ainge and his son, whose name I don't know just yet, decided to say, fuck it.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: Best player available, highest upside available.
13:29
SPEAKER_02: We don't care if he wants to be here or not.
13:31
SPEAKER_02: And it took Ace Bailey a long time to basically say, hey, I'm excited.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: It took him a long time to post anything on Instagram.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: He went black screen on Instagram.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm just, hey, going black screen for anybody born after 2000 is means that they are going through some mental shit.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: He went black screen in the green room, dawg.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, they draft him.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: And this is this is what I will say.
13:53
SPEAKER_02: I can't be mad at the Utah Jazz for doing that.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: Because if you believe that he is the guy that can be an all-star, an all-NBA caliber player, we gotta just take him.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, Taylor Hendricks, Cody Williams, Isaiah Collier, Kyle Philipowski, all of these dudes that we've drafted in recent history, none of them are blue chip prospects.
14:15
SPEAKER_02: It's something that we mentioned like six months ago.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: None of these guys are blue chip prospects.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: And with them being as bad as they were last season, their first time really tanking, and for them to fall to number five, for a guy that was projected to go 2-3, right, a few months ago to be there at five, you you probably shouldn't care.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: You really shouldn't care.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: It's rare that we see a Steve Francis oper thing where somebody gets drafted and he requests a trade immediately.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: Do you have to move him?
14:39
SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be times where people don't want to go to your team, you're gonna take them anyway, and damn, he's got a hoop because that's his job right now.
14:45
SPEAKER_02: So you end up with Ace Bailey.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Again, I don't know, I don't think I'm an Ace Bailey guy personally.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: I see the appeal, I see the upside for sure.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: I, you know, the type of shots that he creates and makes are really difficult, but personally, he's not one of my type of prospects.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: But then they ended up later on in the draft at pick 18, getting a guy that I absolutely love.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: I think everybody loved Walter Clayton Jr.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: after what he did at Florida last year.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, great story coming from Iona, if I'm not mistaken.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: Ended up in Florida.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, and he feels like a beautiful pick for them.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: And they were like, you know, people on the panel, um not our panel, but people were talking about like they already got Isaiah Collier, they already got Colin Sachs and they already got Jordan Clarkson.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: I could not care less about that type of thing.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: If I'm a team not competing for a playoff spot at the bare minimum, I don't care about fit.
15:35
SPEAKER_02: I just don't.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: So if you believe that Walter Clayton Jr.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: was the best player available on the board, which looking at the people that were drafted after him, I'm not mad at that being the belief that you have.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Draft them and figure out the rest later.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna prevent yourself from drafting a guy you really like because Colin Sexton's on the roster.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: No disrespect to Collin Sexton.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: He's a he's a really good ball player, but Colin Sexton might not be on the team two years from now.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: And now we missed out on the guy that we really like because of this dude who we don't even really, you know.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: So I thought that was real fun.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: One of my favorite picks of the draft is pick number six, Trey Johnson going to the Washington Wizards.
16:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, don't know if Trey Johnson's gonna end up being the player that I think he could be, but damn, do I love his game?
16:14
SPEAKER_02: I really do love his game.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: And when you think about who is on the roster with the Washington Wizards, they need that type of player.
16:21
SPEAKER_02: They need him to fill himself out to be a go-to scorer because of the other guys, the young guys on the team, the SARS, the Koulibalis, the Georges, and all the other young people, Bub Carringtons.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: We don't know if any of those guys, I mean, I would, if I had to guess, I would guess that none of those guys are gonna be 1A type of ball players, you know, giving the ball late in the game.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: I think Trey Johnson has the type of upside as an offensive creator.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's still got some holes to feel as far as getting to the basket and finishing at the basket.
16:44
SPEAKER_02: He's still got to, you know, tune up those playmaking things.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: But again, we're talking about with a 19-year-old dude.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: Like he's so good last season as a freshman.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I don't know if those type of numbers come around very often.
16:55
SPEAKER_02: Where I think he led the SEC in points per game as a freshman.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: So that is a really good get at pick number six.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: And now again, looking at the people that were drafted behind him, I really like his fit with the Washington Wizards versus anybody else behind him.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: Let's go up just one more pick.
17:11
SPEAKER_02: Khan Knipple going pick number four.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: I I said this on the show, but you know, there was a time when I was really into baseball, and I was playing shortstop at Harvester Park, and then Petey came to the team and he was good and he moved me over to second.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: I ain't never forgiven for that.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: The coach used to say kiss.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: Not whoa, whoa, whoa.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: He used to say, not to me and the teammates, but just in general.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Kiss.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Keep it simple, stupid.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, you get a ground ball, keep it simple, stupid.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: You ain't gotta do nothing flashy.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: Keep it simple, stupid.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Routine double play.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: Don't try to act like you like that on the base pads, man.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Get it to second, then get it to first.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: I feel like that is exactly what the Charlotte Hornets ended up doing.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: They kept it simple.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: I think of all the guys drafted in this range, Khan Kanipple has one of the highest floors.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: And after last year, where they drafted Sajan Salon, um, a really big upside pick.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: After they did that, I think they needed something and somebody that feels like a good concrete piece that may not have the same upside of Ace Bailey or may not have the same upside of Jeremiah Fears or Trey Johnson, but he just feels like a really good building block for what that team can need right now.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: They don't need any more swings.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: So let's go get a guy that we know after he did what he did in the ACC tournament, where he can be an on-ball creator as well, but we know that just jump shooting some of the best in the class, if not the best in the class.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Rejects very well at the NBA level, competitive defensive player, which is something we say about all the white players, competitive defensively.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: I really like their pick.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: And then at the end of the first round, I think they ended up with Liam McNeely as well, who I'm a lot less high on, as many people are.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: As you can see, he dropped to 29.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: But I think that him shooting 31% in college, I don't think that's who he is as a ball player.
19:01
SPEAKER_02: I think that when he gets to the NBA, he's going to be a real three-point shooter.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: I think he was overtaxed with UConn's offense as they didn't have much going on in this year after winning back-to-back um national titles, where he didn't really have a point guard necessarily, where they asked him to create more than he would ever really be asked to do at the NBA level.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: So I really like what they did in this year's draft.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: I just sometimes I felt like drafting a guy that projects to just be in the league is enough.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Now, maybe you don't like that at pick number four.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: That's understandable.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: Pick number four, maybe the ones where you want to go get a superstar player.
19:31
SPEAKER_02: But there are a lot of guys that were drafted that I've just like, damn, that's a good pick, mostly because I think that Cedric Coward is going to be in the league for a very long time.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: And the fact that it was the Memphis Grizzies that picked him up makes me believe that even more.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: He was my number one favorite player in this year's draft.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully they'll come back to bite me.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he played six total games last year in college before he went out with an injury.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Before that, he was playing at a smaller school.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: And before that, he was playing D3.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: So it's not like this dude has a huge track record of playing against elite competition, but the jump shooting looked real, the defense looked real.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: And that is enough for me to think NBA player.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: He's going to Atlanta.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: And we know, I mean, I'm sorry, he's going to Memphis, and we know Memphis is just really good at talent evaluation when it comes to the draft.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: So not only did Memphis get this pick, they traded up to get this pick.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: They gave up one of the picks they got in the Desmond Bain trade because they believe so much in this guy.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: And I look at that team, again, no Desmond Bain.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: It's like Ja, this is what their core looks like now.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: It's Ja, it's Wales, it's uh Cedric Howard, it's Jaron Jackson Jr.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: I kind of like what's going on.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: Maybe not enough for me to think that they're about to do something special this next season, but I really do believe that Cedric Howard is going to be a real NBA player for a long time.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: It may take him a little bit.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Again, he's going from what Washington State, where he played six games, to the NBA, to the goddamn NBA.
20:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, but he has an NBA body.
20:52
SPEAKER_02: And they they said that he's already gonna start putting on even more muscle.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: He's muscle.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: He's listed at 6'5 is some change and 213, and they're saying he's gonna put on even more.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: So, like beautiful, beautiful pick.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Brooklyn.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Brooklyn came into this draft and drafted everybody and drafted everybody.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Um you know, we knew how many picks they had going into the draft.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: By all accounts, they attempted to trade up.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: They really had their eye on certain people, they attribute attempted to trade up and they failed.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if they attempted to trade out.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, once we got to pick 26 and 27, and we already selected three other rookies.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: Do they try to trade out for somebody else's maybe least favorable 2026, 2027 pick, just so you could get more bites of the Apple next year and the year after that?
21:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they tried that, but them walking out, they're they're kind of the laughing stock of what people believe on Twitter right now.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: They walked out with Yeager Demon, Nolan Triore.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm using these fingers to count how many point guards, by the way.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: Keep that in mind.
21:59
SPEAKER_02: These these fingers.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Are counting point guard play.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, we'll say Nolan Triore and Serif.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then Danny Wolf, who's like kind of a point guard.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: They they went out there and just drafted.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: And it kind of feels like they were like startboarding stuff.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: And then they kept showing Windhorse was having a good time with him showing the war room for the Brooklyn Nets and them clapping and being excited about every pick that they end up having.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know what to believe.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: You know, Jaeger Demon, you know, he did his interview after he was drafted.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: He has the exact mindset I would want for him to have.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, he recognizes what his flaws are and he is really excited to get better around the edges.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: Um but I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have been there 12, 15 or so, um, six, eight point guard, play very well and uh is a pick and roll ball handler.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: But this is something I may have mentioned on the show before that I'm struggling with here in Chicago.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: When you have a guy, and again we're talking about Jaeger Demon, who is what, 19 years old, who has the whole future of his career ahead of him.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: When you have a guy where his best attribute is his playmaking, but more specifically his on-ball playmaking, but also he cannot shoot and he cannot self-create, you're hindering your offense, right?
23:26
SPEAKER_02: No matter how good of a passer you are, if you are not a personal threat to create something for yourself, then your passing will never be super elevated.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: And I feel that way about Giddy, and hopefully he's in that goddamn lab, getting to the point where his jump shot is faster and that he can hit a step back or a sidestep or whatever it may be, a spin move, jump, or I don't know, where he can go in and create for himself a little bit more.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Because that's the only way where a guy like Yeager Demon or a guy like Josh Giddy will have a real successful NBA career.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the alternative is him learn to play off the ball, but I feel like at this point of their careers, do you expect Jaeger Demon to go to Brooklyn and now play the three?
24:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess it's possible, but I highly doubt it because you don't draft him as a three.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: You draft him because of his playmaking field, you draft him because of his size at the point guard position.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: You also drafted other, you also drafted other guys for this.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: Is something Brooklyn has done over the last couple of years, by the way.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: They drafted guys who before the draft process were projected high, it may have failed.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: I remember a year ago almost exactly when people were doing the 2025 um way too early 2025 mock draft.
24:33
SPEAKER_02: Nolan Triore was projected to go top five.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: He had a pretty bad year overseas, could not hit a jump shot, struggled on a lot of things on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: So he failed, right?
24:45
SPEAKER_02: So he failed.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: But they took a shot.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Because once upon a time, he's he was really high.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: So maybe we can get that potential out of him.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: They did the same thing with Drake Powell, who they also drafted or traded for, traded for the pick.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is the yes, this is the Atlanta Hawks.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: Every single pick after 13 got traded, by the way, um, to somebody else.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Drake Powell came into UNC as one of the top recruits and had a year USC that wasn't too spectacular, but he was high, a good defender, hit his shots, which I thought was pretty impressive, but he fell all the way to 22.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: And you think to yourself, hey, the hype that he had coming out of high school, maybe we can turn that into something.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: And we've seen him be successful before.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: We've seen players have bad one-year uh deals in in college or overseas, and and that wasn't who they really were, and they ended up maximizing their potential.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: Maybe one of these guys is that.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I actually like Drake Powell a lot.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: I actually think out of all of the picks they had, I like the Drake Powell pick more than any of the other ones.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: Because the only thing I don't like about Drake Powell, as far as like what his role would be at the NBA level, which at this point would be like a 3nd D wing.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Um his jump shot is really slow.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: A lot of the looks that he got at UNC were wide, wide open with like three seconds to set his feet, get the ball on the seams.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if well, he might get the opportunity to in the NBA level, but you just want his jump shot to be faster.
25:57
SPEAKER_02: But I trust him defensively already at this young age.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it may take some time to get used to the NBA physicality, but I think that he's gonna be a really good um defensive player.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: It's just can we speed up that jump shot?
26:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about Ben, the six, six point guard out of Israel, so I will refrain from talking about him.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: And then Danny Wolf, oh my God, the Danny Wolf family.
26:17
SPEAKER_02: Were they not one of the stars of last night's telecast?
26:21
SPEAKER_02: Where his brother, I'm assuming, we didn't have sound in the studio, so I'm gonna assume it was his brother.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: They looked almost identical.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: His brother is boo-hoo crying, and his mom is boo-hoo crying.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: They're crying so much that the next pick had been selected, Hugo Gonzalez, who wasn't there, and they was like, here's one minute of Hugo Gonzalez highlights.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: Let's go back to the Wolf family, see if they still cry.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep, they're still crying.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what Danny Wolf looks like at the NBA level.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: He's got one of the best college mixtapes you'll see from somebody that's not above the rim.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: But how much would that translate at the NBA level is is really a question.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: So people don't like this draft pick or this draft class for them.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: And they took a lot of shots.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: And in my mind, it's like they couldn't go over five, right?
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Ain't no way hell they went over five, right?
27:11
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was interesting.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh Kyler Murray Boyles going number nine.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: I think uh the Raptors did an amazing job, smoke screening all of us.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: In my mind, it was either Nolan um Noah Asinge or it was gonna be Kamehame Maluwatch.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: They said, nah, we're going Kyler Murray Boyles, which is a surprise to me.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: I really like Kyler Murray Boyles as a prospect.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's all gonna boil down.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: Whether he sticks in the league and becomes more than just a rotational player, it's all gonna boil down to the jump shooting, obviously.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: The feel for the game is amazing.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: The playmaking is really good for his position.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, he is a great defensive playmaker.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: He can switch onto a lot of positions, he can guard fives, he can guard some smaller wings.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: He's he's pretty damn dynamic on that side of things, which is exactly what Masai Ujiri loves.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Masai loves, loves him a dude that can play multiple positions that got good feel, and Murray Boyles has that.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm struggling to figure out exactly what the hell, what the hell um the Raptors look like next season.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: I did see a clip of Kendrick Perkins saying the Raptors are about to be in the playoffs and making some noise.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think I'm there just yet.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: I gotta see what else happens because they were in rumors to trade for Kevin Arant a little bit.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: They were in rumors to maybe pop off RJ Bear.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: So we don't know exactly what their final roster will look like.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: I do think some of his skills, Colin Murray Boys, I'm going back to, are kind of redundant to some of the other players on the roster.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: But maybe again, we don't know if those same players will be on the roster come October when the season starts.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: So we'll wait and see.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: We'll wait and see.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: I thought he was going to be a guy that's gonna be available at 12 for the Bulls.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: He was not.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of the Bulls, yeah, no incend.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: When I was doing my research to starting doing my research, again, looking at every single mock that exists, whether it be Yahoo, the Ringer, um, no ceilings, I feel like I'm missing some really good, talented uh people out there, CBS.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: I just did like a cumulative, these are the guys that people project to be in the range of 12.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: And I was breaking down Sorber, Derek Queen, Colin Murray Boyles, Jaeger Demon.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: I was breaking down uh Joe uh Joanne Berenger.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: I was breaking down all of these dudes that might have been available, Yaku Shonis.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: And the guy that I liked the most was Noah Senge.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: And it didn't have a lot to do with his actual production, which is fucking nuts to say aloud.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: In my mind, pick 12 is not gonna have many guarantees, right?
29:35
SPEAKER_02: I look at the people drafted behind him.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Listen, Dare Queen has the ability to maximize his ceiling, and we look back and be like, damn, Dare Queen was one pick away.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: Carter Bryan is a guy that my boy D.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: Milley absolutely loves.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what his full ceiling is as an NBA player.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: Sorber, who we went to OKC, which is such an amazing pick for OKC, was projected to go in this uh realm as well.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: The reason why I like Noah Senge for the Bulls, at least a month and a half ago, had a lot to do with taking the swing.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Taking the swing.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: And in two years from now, three years from now, we can look back and say, fuck, I wish they didn't take the swing.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: But there's like a there's something about the unknown.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: And that the unknown would get me fired as a GM.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: I won't lie to you.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh when you see a 6'10, 204-pound guy that's playing overseas in the German league, and granted, stats ain't amazing.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Some of them are definitely inflated by the competition.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, his free throw rate in Germany is not going to translate to the NBA.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: No way in hell he's gonna get to the NBA with the whistles that we get versus where they get.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: But there's something really intriguing about a 610 player with all of these tools.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: So I understand the pick.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: And then again, they asked me on the panel, like, who would you rather have in the spot?
30:48
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, nobody.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: So in that case, I guess I'm okay with it.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: I just the thing, if he was drafted almost any other place, I probably would like it more.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: But knowing what the Bulls have done in player development, that's the thing that scares me.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: Right?
31:01
SPEAKER_02: We they have not done an amazing job, have not done these even a good job in player development on any of the guys that they've drafted recently, right?
31:08
SPEAKER_02: Patrick Williams in the 2020 draft.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh we can go, we can go on for like, I'm not gonna fault them on Dalen Terry.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to my our boy DT.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna fault them on Julian Phillips.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: Like those guys are you know 16th overall picks in second rounders or so.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: But when they have had lottery picks in recent history, they've been they've really struggled to develop them.
31:25
SPEAKER_02: And some of them are previous regime, right?
31:27
SPEAKER_02: Larry Marketing picked seven, Wendell Carter picked seven.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: Both of those guys went to different teams and had a better career, even though Wendale had a bad season.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, Kobe White was a lottery pick, and he's finally doing some great stuff after the last year, but it took him some time.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: So our previous lottery picks really struggled to blossom.
31:42
SPEAKER_02: The only guy that really gives us a lot of hope is Modus Buzales.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think the development that we saw through him from him the entire season, maybe this is disingenuous, but what I was gonna say, I think that's more about him.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: Like from the moment we met him before he was even a bull, he was telling us, I am the best player in this draft.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's a mindset thing more than it is like, oh, I got the best shooting coach in the world.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I got the best strength and conditioning coach.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: I think he really wants to be number one, and that's what's carrying him after that rookie season.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: Even now, he put on some more muscle and everything.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: So I don't hate the Noah Singe pick.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, I did get some texts from family members saying, like, yo, it had to be D Queen.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay with it not being D Queen.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: And maybe I'll I'll look back on this and say, damn, Kenny, you were a fucking idiot for saying that.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: But right now, I don't hate it too much.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh, let's go back up because I don't know how I've got 30 minutes into this show without mentioning the Phoenix Suns draft.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Yo, they have been the butt of a lot of jokes.
32:39
SPEAKER_02: A lot of jokes the Phoenix Suns have after trading all of their capital in their future for Kevin Durant and then the Kevin Arant thing not working, they trading him away for Jalen Green, uh Dilla Brooks, and picked Tam.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Yo, what a draft for them.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big Mark Williams guy, I will say that.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: But Mark Williams is definitely better than the last couple centers they've had in Phoenix.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: And because Mark Williams is not guaranteed anything, you can also take another center, in this case, Mal Uach, who, you know, even if he went to the Raptors or he went right after this to, I don't know, Memphis or the Blaze, whoever had to pick right after, he was not going to be a guy that was gonna come in and play 30 minutes per game.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: He just didn't, I don't think his condition is gonna be ready at that size.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Um, so they go get another center who whether he's conditioning or his back or his health, you know, struggles to stay healthy.
33:25
SPEAKER_02: But another center that's just better.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: And it's kind of like uh maybe Mark Williams is the bridge the gap guy until Mayu Watch is ready to really play.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: All things considered, again, in a vacuum, I really did like what they did.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: And I think they traded up one more time for a second round pick, which is great because they just don't have a lot of um forwards on the roster.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: I would guess that with the pick they take tonight will be a forward.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who that guy will really be.
33:50
SPEAKER_02: But the Suns just did some stuff, and I'm like, wait a minute.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: Now, not enough for me to be like, oh, here we go, they're coming back, you know.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: But like having a legitimate center, and and again, I'm not the biggest Mark Williams guy, but like having a center better than Nick Richards and better than Yusuf Nurkic, who you had last season, is a win.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: And drafting a guy at 10, who a lot of people thought could have gone as high as seven, you know, yeah, yeah, he was projected to go around seven to get him at 10 is pretty good.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: And I'm a May U Watch fan, even though I can't fucking pronounce his name.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: The reason I'm a fan of his because I just like a center that defans.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: And listen, his defense right now, what we're talking about, is we're projecting his defense because it ain't like he's coming into the league as Rudy Gobert or anything like that.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: But he has the tools to be kind of skin versatile, and I like that about a center.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: And there's a few centers that were drafted today that don't that do not have that.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, there's one center that has a lot of that, and that's Thomas Sorber.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: But I really like what Phoenix did in a vacuum with the Kevin Durant assets that they got back.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: I think it's gonna be interesting at the bare minimum.
34:56
SPEAKER_02: While we're here talking about this 2025 NBA draft, I want you to look over to FanDuel Sportsbook because they already got the odds of the rookie of the year.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: As you can imagine, Cooper Flag, the number one pick in this year's draft, has a minus 190, which makes a ton of sense because he's gonna have opportunity very early on.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: In theory, that team should be at least decent enough to turn some heads.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: And he's gonna get the ball in his hands more than he would have if Kyrie Irvin was healthy.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: Get well soon, Kyrie Irvin.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: Can't wait to see you back on the court with this team.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: He is the real deal.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Everybody knows that he is the real deal.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: But after that, Ace Bailey at plus 850 makes a ton of sense because in that in Utah, there's not gonna be a lot of people that's gonna prevent him from getting the shots that he wants.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: Then you got Trey Johnson, again, one of my favorite picks in this year's draft, a similar situation.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: They got some veterans over there that may tone it down just a little bit, but he might be able to come in and average a good amount of points.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: You got Dylan Harper at plus 1200, like Kenny, how was that so low?
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, a good point guard room between Casu and Fox.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: So we got to see what Dylan Harper's role ends up being.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: Vijay Edgecomb is plus two, 2,500, and that makes sense as well.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: You know, he at the bare minimum, he's the fourth option in his rookie season.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: It feels like a stretch even then.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: And then you got Derrick Queen at plus 3,000.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: A guy that's not on the board right now, at least in not what I just read.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: I really like Walter Clayton Jr.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: there.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, if it's gonna be a guy that's gonna be a gamer and still the rookie of the year, it might be him.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: So again, go to FanDuel Sportsbook.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and make a bet if you're so uh inclined to do so uh and play safe.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: Let's go back to the draft here.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Because picks 14, 15, and 16 were great and then surprising.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: 14 pick in this year's draft is Carter Bryant.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to my guy.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, what a good pickup that is for the Spurs who walk out with now Dylan Harper and Carter Bryant.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, the tough part I had about Carter Bryant is that he didn't play a ton at Arizona, but when he played, you could tell he was super impactful.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: All the events stats loved when he was on the court.
36:51
SPEAKER_02: And then he had the good defensive feel, he had the finishing.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: He has a lot of things that will translate well to the NBA season.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: But based on where he was projected to go before he ended up at 14, I was like, ah, is that the right situation for him to maximize himself?
37:04
SPEAKER_02: He's in the right situation.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: He will never ever be asked to do more than what he's able to do.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: And I love that for him.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: I think that the Spurs walk out as big-time winners with pick two and pick 14.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: The other big-time winner, Thomas Sorber and the OKC Thunder.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, we were doing a show and we were trying to predict picks at this point.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, the only guy that makes sense to me is Sorber because I'm thinking about you can't think about OKC for 2025, 2026 when it comes to the draft.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: Their roster is pretty much set.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: You got to think about them trying to project two years down the line when Isaiah Hartenstein's contract is up and then J Dub's contract is in and Chet Homer's contract is in, they won't be able to retain Isaiah Hartenstein to the same evaluation they got him in right now.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: So what if we draft a guy who's coming off a foot surgery, but they said he's doing okay.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: We draft a guy that we just let chill and learn from Chet Holm Grand and Isaiah Hartenstein.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: And once Isaiah Hartenstein's contract is up, it's time for Thomas Sorber to come in and play.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: I really liked him as a player.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: If it wasn't for the foot injury, I would have loved him at pick number 12.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm just always scared of a big fella with a foot injury, regardless of the severity of it.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, but he is, you know, some of these other centers like a Yang or Hansen Yang or, you know, some of the other centers that got drafted, they're definitely going to be scheme specific.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: You're going to see them run a lot of drop coverage.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: You're going to see them run a lot of drop coverage.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: I think Sorber has the defensive tools with his quick feet, quick hands to play, switch, to play at the level, to play a lot of different things at the end when he gets to the NBA and actually getting real rotational minutes.
38:35
SPEAKER_02: So I think this is such a steal.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: He was an absolute stud at Georgetown last season.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, I thought he was gonna find his way into the lottery and obviously feel just right outside it.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Pick 16, Hanson Yang.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: That was the first whoa of the draft.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: Where, you know, some people gave him late first round grades, some people gave him early second round grades.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: He played very well in the scrimmage, the five-on-five scrimmages leading up to the draft.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, and that was enough.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: We're going into a new era, ladies and gentlemen.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: We're going into a new era.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: After Giannis was drafted and he blossomed onto the scene, he won most approved player and eventually went on to win DPOYs and MVPs.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: Teams started to take swings to draft the next Giannis.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like every year we're getting that.
39:20
SPEAKER_02: The Bulls just did that.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: The Bulls just tried to draft the next Giannis.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: Last year, Tajan Salon, all these guys are French.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, last year they tried to draft the next big project that could be a stud one day.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: Everybody wanted to draft Bruno Kaboklo, Don Maker, right?
39:35
SPEAKER_02: You hit on that archetype of player, you're trying to do it again and again and again.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: Hanson Yang is the first Jokic archetype that people are trying to get.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: And that's nuts.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: Because Jokic really truly is a one-of-one.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Giannis, don't get me wrong.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: As you can see, all the guys I just mentioned have no business being in Giannis conversations, but they got drafted based on profile.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: That could be Giannis.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: Hanson Yang is the first they call him Chinese Joker.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: That's nuts.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: He does have good feel, he does have good passing, but he got drafted at pick 16 to a team that has four other centers on the roster.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: Now, some of those centers you don't give a damn about.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: DeAndre Aiden, Robert Williams, deuces.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: If we can get rid of you right now, we would.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: But having back to back years where you draft a center in a lottery, it's interesting.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm curious to hear, um, and I'm maybe they already did their their because the Bulls, and I guess a lot of different teams do this post-NBA draft uh media thing.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if they did theirs already over there with Joe Cronin and so on and so forth.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: Um but I would love to hear the rationalization of that, right?
40:45
SPEAKER_02: Donovan Klinken projects to be a really good defensive player in the NBA at the bare minimum.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: Defensively, he's gonna be really good, especially when he gets conditioning done.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Do you see a world where they play together occasionally?
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Did the Steven Adams outprint Shangoon thing make teams think that they need to go double bigs or have the option to go double bigs?
41:04
SPEAKER_02: Refer to that question that we were asked two weeks ago again.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Which team do we think can make a big jump next season surprise people?
41:09
SPEAKER_02: My team was the Portland Trailblazers.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm not taking that away because they just didn't they did a trade for Drew Holiday, which I think is pretty interesting.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: But whoa, what a pick! The biggest surprise.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: And it's so much a surprise that nobody really knows what to think just yet.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows let me see.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at ESPN's official site.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: Um oh, I thought these were grades.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: It said um, it said C for Yang.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: It said C for Sorber, F for Carter Bryant.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: They're standing for center and forward.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: I thought they were graded.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, F, Carter Bryant?
41:46
SPEAKER_02: What the hell are they talking about?
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Um nobody knows to believe about it.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: And I don't either, because I only saw the highlights, just like everybody else.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: I only saw the highlights of what he did um in those scrimmages.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: Don't ask me about his Chinese basketball association highlights because I don't know where they land, that league lands when it comes to level of competition.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: Is that even higher than the German league that Noah Singe just played in?
42:08
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: Before we get out of here, here are some of my other favorite picks at the end of the first round.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Um Jace Richardson going 25 is perfect.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely perfect.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: If he was two inches taller, three inches taller, he he would be one of my guys.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, he's a super undersized guy.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: And I just feel like based on what we've seen over the last couple years, the lack of size is a really real deterrent as teams continue to pick you apart when it comes to the postseason.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: But if there's any place that can make up for the fact that he's super undersized, it's the Orlando Magic.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: A team that needs shooting, they need spacing, they need creation.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: Jace Richardson provides majority of that um as a rookie.
42:44
SPEAKER_02: And then his dad played for the team, which is also pretty fucking fire.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, so I think they have one more pick in this year's draft.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't be surprised if they went with another shooter.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: I would love for them to end up with um can you tell them running out of gas?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you can't.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm running out of gas.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: Um, Chaz Lanier or Kobe Brea, one of the two great shooters that are still available on the board.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: Just keep adding shooting, keep adding shooting, keep adding shooting.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: And because even if these guys don't hit, you took this, you took the swing on some shooting, something that is desperately needed for your team.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: I already mentioned that Ace Newell at pick 23, beautiful, especially with the player that he's um with.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: And then lastly, at pick 20, Kaspar's Yaakashonis.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: I watched a lot of Illinois basketball this season, man, and he was very far from the perfect point guard prospect.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: I will say that again.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: He was very far away from the perfect point guard prospect.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: But for him to fall to pick 20 to the Miami Heat, I think that is a real blessing for Miami.
43:42
SPEAKER_02: As they, you know, wanted to get Walter Clay Jr.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: by all reports.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: He ended up going 18.
43:46
SPEAKER_02: This is not a bad consolation prize.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think a lot of people are looking at him and his turnover rate and so on and so forth, and acting like he is a finished product because he turned the ball over a lot.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: No, I truly do believe there's a real upside there.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: And based on everybody else that was going after.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: After him, if you wanted to take a swing for some upside at the point guard position, there's nobody else on the board that it even comes close, even comes close to upside when it comes to Yakashonis.
44:08
SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna give old man Pat Riley the first thumbs up in four years.
44:14
SPEAKER_02: Now let me chill.
44:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh Need Clifford was a pretty good pickup for the Sacramento Kings who trade up into this year's draft to get him really like Need Clifford as a player.
44:22
SPEAKER_02: Just don't know what the hell is going on in Sacramento as far as what his teammates will look like when the season starts, but really good pickup for him.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: Um so let me reiterate the picks that I didn't like.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like pick eight, Yeager Demon.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm questionable on pick seven, Jeremiah Fears, but I like I can script my eyes to understand it.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: He re-classified, he's one of the youngest dudes in the draft.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: I just don't like a point guard that can't finish or can't shoot.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: Am I crazy?
44:47
SPEAKER_02: He is 18, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: Thumbs up, but like, no, it's like a thumbs this way, because I don't know what to believe just yet.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: I hated what happened in pick 13.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: Not the player that they selected, but the fact that they traded the future first-round pick for pick 13.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, who else, who else, who else?
45:03
SPEAKER_02: That might be it.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, that might be it.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everything else is cool.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about Hugo Gonzalez or Yannick, the guy that got drafted by the Clippers.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: I know he had a good workout as well.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: That's all I know.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: So I can't have a grade on that.
45:17
SPEAKER_02: But that's the first round of the playoffs, y'all.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm out of it.
45:21
SPEAKER_02: Out of uh first round of the draft.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: Let's get to some Ask KB.
45:24
SPEAKER_02: You can hit us up on Twitter, you can hit us up on Instagram.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: We're always accepting questions, and it is my favorite part of every single show.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: Let's see what we got.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: What's up, Kenny?
45:40
SPEAKER_01: Been watching you for about a decade.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: Love the content.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: My question is if you could hang out with any three NBA players from any era, who would they be and why?
45:53
SPEAKER_02: It's a great question.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: Am I hanging out with them at the same time?
45:57
SPEAKER_02: Or we am on Monday, I'm here, on Tuesday, I'm here, on Wednesday.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm here.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna answer a question that way because I think it's a lot cooler to say I'm going bowling with so-and-so.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna play, I'm gonna play 18 with Michael Jordan.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna play 18 with Michael Jordan.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna gamble with him.
46:16
SPEAKER_02: Umpe, I take that back.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: What the hell am I talking about?
46:19
SPEAKER_02: He's a billionaire.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: What am I talking about?
46:21
SPEAKER_02: Gambling with Michael Jordan.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm gonna play 18 with MJ.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: And you know, I ain't even I ain't even gonna fan out.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
46:28
SPEAKER_02: I just want to play, I just want to hit the greens, hit the links, you know what I'm saying?
46:31
SPEAKER_02: Putt very well and showcase that I could be um one of his one of his golf buddies.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, I will have a few questions, but I ain't gonna I'm not gonna jump in, like, oh my God, I'm a huge fan of Michael Jordan because everybody's a huge fan of Michael Jordan.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like you say that, he's like, okay, so is that guy and that guy.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: But I would love to go golf with MJ.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm hanging out with Alan Iverson.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: Don't give a damn what we do.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: I just don't care.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: He is by far, he was the coolest basketball player ever when I was a kid.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: I am 28 years old, and I still have not seen a player as cool as Alan Iverson.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: Even in his old age, and he just turned 50.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday to Alan Iverson a few weeks ago.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: He is still top three coolest people to ever exist in the history of mankind.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: He just is.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: It's just for him to have to put it all on the court.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: I remember watching like an AI documentary, and they were like, Man, AI, why you be wearing all these arm sleeves and ammo sleeves?
47:29
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Here's why.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: And he pulled down the sleeves.
47:31
SPEAKER_02: You saw all the bumps and bruises from this six-foot point guard going against fucking Shaquille O'Neal and getting knocked on his ass.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: Coolest dude ever.
47:38
SPEAKER_02: And even now, he met Cooper Flag and he was like, Coop, he's the real truth.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: You're Alan Iverson.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to show him that love, but you do anyway.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I would love to hang out with you.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: I met him once, but that was it.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: Third one.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: Third one.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: Like even my go, Chris Paul.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm completely okay with not hanging out with Chris Paul.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
47:59
SPEAKER_02: I would be it would be cool to meet Chris Paul, talk to Chris Paul, but I don't think me.
48:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to go bowling with Chris Paul.
48:04
SPEAKER_02: I'll say that.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: If you invite me, I will go.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: But I like I'm not after that.
48:11
SPEAKER_02: I think it would just be cool to meet Braun in any capacity.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: When Cash just did it a few weeks ago, I feel so good for Cash Nasty, man.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: That that's been Cash has been one of my guys for a long time.
48:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, me and Cash went clubbing together in Cleveland.
48:27
SPEAKER_02: And he's always been just a LeBron guy.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: So for him to meet Braun and not just meet Braun, Bron embraced him.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: You know how nervous I would have been?
48:36
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm sure Braun ain't seen all of the Cash Nasty clips now.
48:40
SPEAKER_02: Cas Nasty has done some crazy stuff with LeBron James' name, with his face on some some covers on his bed.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: So for Braun to embrace him, W Braun, W Braun, that's my that's my uh Twitch streamer chatter, W.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: Braun.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: Hey Kenny, if you could change the trajectory of one player's career, not including Derek Rose, who would you pick?
49:06
SPEAKER_02: Um change the trajectory of one player.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: Not Derek Rose.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Hey, what if Patrick Williams was Kawhi Leonard?
49:16
SPEAKER_02: You know, you get drafted on measurements, you get drafted on size, you get drafted on your hands, you get drafted on your your calves, and what if he was no, that's I don't want to say super biased to Chicago, but that was the first thing that came to mind.
49:28
SPEAKER_02: I truly believe that pick set us back so far because it's not likely or often that you jump up into top four.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Um and Halliburton was sitting on the on the board and he wanted to play for Chicago and he didn't.
49:40
SPEAKER_02: So um, so Patrick Williams changed his trajectory to end up being the guy that we thought he could be.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: Other than that, I don't know, man.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of my favorite players ended up having the careers that I want them to have.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: It would be easy for me to say, man, I wish that David Stern didn't veto my Chris Paul trade because boom, Chris Paul has a ring with Kobe, you know, that type of stuff.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't care enough to try to do something like that.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: My mine also goes to injuries, right?
50:08
SPEAKER_02: I really liked Greg Odin when I was a kid, him and uh Mike, Mike Conley at Ohio State.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: So maybe it's like, let's just see what the big fella had to offer if he never really got injured.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: Just feel the same way about a lot of different injuries.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Brandon Roy had provided a lot of good years in the NBA before his big time injuries.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: Sean Liveston, Illinois's very own.
50:27
SPEAKER_02: Those couple things.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: Patrick Williams.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm going back to Patrick Williams.
50:31
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:32
SPEAKER_02: Patrick Williams.
50:32
SPEAKER_02: Let's uh let's make Patrick Williams the guy.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: And and yeah, who knows what we happen in Chicago right now.
50:39
SPEAKER_02: All right, that's the end of today's episode.
50:41
SPEAKER_02: I want to say thank y'all so much for listening to me ramble about a draft without me being a draft expert or anything even close to that.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: I cannot wait to look back on this episode and be like, yeah, Derrick Queen is really top three now.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: So who cares if they gave up that first round pick in 2026?
51:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, I do want to say, you know, as we wrapped up the 2024-2025 season, that I say this a lot, but I truly do appreciate everybody that has watched consume any of my content over the last couple years.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: Y'all have made a dream come true.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: The fact that we were in Bristol in the same studio with SportsCenter shot and did a live coverage with Brian Winhorse of the draft is so nuts to me.
51:24
SPEAKER_02: Um and I definitely don't take those type of things for granted.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, and we got a tour, Brian Winhorst gave us a tour of the entire facility in Bristol.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: And I'm already, I'm already a guy that wants it more than more people, most people, I would say.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: Not that made me want it more than walking through those studios and being like, fuck, bro.
51:44
SPEAKER_02: This could be reality for me if I keep my foot on the gas.
51:47
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if that means ESPN or what I'm just saying in general, in general.
51:52
SPEAKER_02: Because right now, what this show you're watching right now is in an office space, right?
51:57
SPEAKER_02: These lights that we have on are just key lights, and this camera is just one that we bought.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: It's like there's so much more that can be done in this space from me, and I want it, and I want it, I wanted, I wanted.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: I hate that I got that tour at the end of a season, right?
52:11
SPEAKER_02: So I got a whole off season to kind of just think about how we could be better to get make that a reality.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: I wish I'd got that in October leading up to this season.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I would have been able to produce better content, but yeah, man.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't get that tour.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't get that show.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Nobody cares what you think unless people are listening.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, and y'all are listening, and I appreciate that.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Um I will not be going to summer league this year.
52:38
SPEAKER_02: I've been getting a lot of questions about summer league.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh, me and my wife are expecting our second child around that time, so it's better to be safe than sorry.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: So sorry, no inside.
52:46
SPEAKER_02: I won't be there when your first official game is a bull.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Like I've been there for the last, I don't know, seven years of Bulls picks.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: Um, the guys might still be there though, so they might have something cool for people that are still a fan of NOTB.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, I probably will take a little bit of a break, you know, as we gear up for baby number two.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Um we'll see.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: Because this is one hour a week, right?
53:13
SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate y'all, and I'll see y'all next time.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: Peace.