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Recapping The Oklahoma Sooners Loss To Ole Miss And What went RIGHT! · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Sooner or Later Sports Show,
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  Speaker 1: We've got a few good things to talk about, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, we'll talk about the old Miss game and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all about my my tour around the
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  Speaker 1: grove to being Jason a breakdown thoughts on offense and
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  Speaker 1: defense and what we need to do to go forward. So, Jason,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for pulling up. Coop was not feeling well. Jason
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  Speaker 1: came in to join us. How's it going, my man?
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  Speaker 3: Hey man, it's always good to jump on with you. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I was excited to have get a chance to come on. Sorry, Coop,
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  Speaker 3: ain't feeling but.
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  Speaker 1: You know that know it's been a bit. We need
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  Speaker 1: to get you back on.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I've been slacking on my hitting people up. I just
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  Speaker 1: more so just ride on the seat of my pants
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  Speaker 1: because I've been too lazy to actually make a plan.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, we're gonna start working on the collaborations a
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  Speaker 1: lot more. We may have one more join us in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. But hey man, of course we got to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the game. We've got to talk about first.
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  Speaker 1: I want to open up and talk about the grove.
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  Speaker 1: What's good everybody. Thank y'all for pulling up. Gone ahead
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  Speaker 1: he's able to get in here.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: But I went out there to Oxford. I want to
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  Speaker 1: check out the game myself that I splurred, saved up,
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  Speaker 1: say this is the game I'm gonna go to on
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  Speaker 1: the road, and ladies and gentlemen, I went, Jason, So
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  Speaker 1: you've heard the legends of the grove, right, have you been?
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  Speaker 3: I have? I have not been to the grove, man.
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  Speaker 3: I was really hoping to get out there this year.
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  Speaker 1: But so right, right, so, so many people have talked
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  Speaker 1: about the grove, and they've talked about all of the
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  Speaker 1: allure of it. And I'm gonna tell you right now
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  Speaker 1: everything you've heard is true. It is the wildest tailgate
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  Speaker 1: I have ever been into my life. And I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you all this because like, when you get there, you
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  Speaker 1: got the big stadium of vod Hemingway. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: probably like sixty something thousands, so it's not huge, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a nice size one, right, Yeah. And so I
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  Speaker 1: walked up there and I saw my guy Gridird insight
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  Speaker 1: what was going on? Mister Dent saw him and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, cause he's in Mississippi, mar Can.
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  Speaker 3: I hit him up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, hey, I ain't see the grove. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, this is what you do. Go down to
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  Speaker 1: the other side, north side of the stadium. Me just keep walking,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry, you will see it, all right, all right? Cool? Well, sure,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all right. I get it. I get it. Everybody's
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  Speaker 1: on the hype from Missippi. I get it. Got hype it. Man.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw them tents, Jason, they did not stop.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to you. I felt like I was at
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  Speaker 1: a swap meet. Yeah, I felt like I was at
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  Speaker 1: you know, how the swap meets. How they have all
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  Speaker 1: the tables and stuff and so that's what we're yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: like it was just because because supposedly it's four to
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  Speaker 1: six acres and it's just all tense. Now, I've also
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  Speaker 1: been a tuscaloosim Bama does it pretty good too. There's
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  Speaker 1: about two acres of tents, right, naw, this is like
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  Speaker 1: at least twice as big. They do this stuff real.
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  Speaker 3: This is what they do. This is what they do. Well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we need.
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  Speaker 1: To figure this out here. Sooner Nation, University of Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: Sooner Athletics. We need to figure out this ourselves, because
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  Speaker 1: it's hands down the coolest experience I had in my life.
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  Speaker 1: The people were nice. They were pulling you in. They
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  Speaker 1: saw you in your Sooner gear. They trying to pull
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  Speaker 1: you in to like get you to get some drink,
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  Speaker 1: get some food, trying to get aymen. It's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: come over here. And it was funny because they had
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  Speaker 1: interacted with a lot of Sooner fans and they talked about, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: y'all have been amazing, and y'all travel a lot. There's
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  Speaker 1: a ton of you here. I was like, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: were winning and we're not even winning. We suck right
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  Speaker 1: now and we're traveling everywhere. And that's the thing I
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  Speaker 1: think it was impressed. And the most is that y'all
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  Speaker 1: are kind of struggling, but y'all are here like y'all
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  Speaker 1: are here in droves. We were amazed at how much
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  Speaker 1: Crimson is walking around. And I was like, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: We try to travel well so soon a nation. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gona give it to you all. You did a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 1: But showing up and showing out now the team gave
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  Speaker 1: y'all the first half much more out of that. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna break that down. We're gonna talk about it, don't worry. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the chat, don't worry about it. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about all of that. Ferry Murray, Yeah, I've been to
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  Speaker 1: LSU's It ain't got nothing on Oxford on the grove.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't got nothing on the grove at all. Tuscaloosa
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  Speaker 1: ain't got nothing on the grove. LSU and they tailgate
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  Speaker 1: an LSU. They got none on the grove. Naylan, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: they ain't got none on the grove and they tailgate two.
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  Speaker 3: It's on the inside of the stadiums that these places
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  Speaker 3: are rocking and rolling. Then, in other.
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  Speaker 1: Words, it's the outside the grove masterful. And I've been
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  Speaker 1: to l s U multiple times. It ain't nothing on
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  Speaker 1: the grove. I was more I.
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  Speaker 3: Was in the shock.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I walk through there and ls use a trip,
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  Speaker 1: it's fun too, But no, because I think it's more
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  Speaker 1: so because the grove is so organized. It's amazing how
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  Speaker 1: organized it is. So yeah, we'll talk about that. Because
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was fun.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great environment to go to if you
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  Speaker 1: can get there and go ahead and start saving. Now
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  Speaker 1: we'll probably play there again in five years, for three
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  Speaker 1: years and three years, three years because next year they
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  Speaker 1: come here, the two years after that will have I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna flip us and give us the other schedule,
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  Speaker 1: and then I think if we go to nine games.
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  Speaker 3: Is it gonna be that long before they go to
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  Speaker 3: nine games?
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  Speaker 1: You think possibly? Because I think, honestly, I think the
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  Speaker 1: negotiations right now is around if they're gonna do the
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  Speaker 1: Super League stuff or not.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because they're definitely trying to figure out whether
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  Speaker 3: or not. I think you want to see how many
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  Speaker 3: you get in from the Big ten in the SEC
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  Speaker 3: because they don't know that going to nine games is
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  Speaker 3: gonna benefit the big boys when you know you're already
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  Speaker 3: playing tough opponents all the time. So that's I think
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  Speaker 3: that's the big thing. I know, Texas fans, Oklahoma fans,
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  Speaker 3: we were ready to go to nine so that you
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  Speaker 3: can play everybody.
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  Speaker 1: But we're used to it, right, That's what we did
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  Speaker 1: it in the Big twelve for all those years. And Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'll keep the two rivalry games as well, like you'll
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  Speaker 1: have locked games that you're not gonna lose rivalry games
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  Speaker 1: every year if you Yeah, it'd be like two or
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  Speaker 1: three if they go to nine, it'll be three. If
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  Speaker 1: they stick it eight. It'll probably be just two. But
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  Speaker 1: they're going to keep the rivalries in there. That's the goal,
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  Speaker 1: is to keep traditions going well. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: they want to get everybody to be able to play
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  Speaker 1: each other. I'm hoping our non con schedules. That's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing I like about the Super League idea is
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  Speaker 1: the non cons will probably be a locked or Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be playing a lot of big boys in other conferences.
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  Speaker 1: That help measure up, right, can help you measure up
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  Speaker 1: people as you prepare for your conference. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: I digress on.
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  Speaker 3: That's Oxford.
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  Speaker 1: Oxford's legit. Just just know that everybody's figured out. Figure
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  Speaker 1: that out one day. Go out there to the Hotty Toddy.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth it. It's just worth being there. It's worth
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  Speaker 1: being there. It's all I got to say. It's worth
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  Speaker 1: And when they were their powder blues, it looks just
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  Speaker 1: beautiful in the stadium. It's it's I was impressed. So
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  Speaker 1: with that, Jason, let's talk some ball. I know everybody's
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  Speaker 1: in here, everybody see my shirt and BV. We trust.
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  Speaker 1: I still trust in BV. And I say that because
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  Speaker 1: they didn't hire him to be the quick fix right.
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  Speaker 1: The one year he had a mostly healthy squad, we
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  Speaker 1: went ten and three, and in those two games in
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  Speaker 1: the season, we lost Stutsman. So you lost the anchored
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  Speaker 1: your defense that you were rebuilding. Right, we haven't really
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  Speaker 1: seemed fully healthy. Unfortunately, uh for BV from losing your quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: because and by the time you were able to get
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback, the portal was basically, you know, kind of closed.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have many options. You're scraping at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the barrel quarterbacks. And that was more so Caleb
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  Speaker 1: waited til last minute.
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  Speaker 3: To the decision giving telling BV or telling Dylan Gabriel
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  Speaker 3: that he had the job and there wouldn't be a
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  Speaker 3: competition didn't exactly help you help either guys in there
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  Speaker 3: with you, yea.
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  Speaker 1: So so so that that one hurt. And then of
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  Speaker 1: course not last season was solid. This year we've just
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  Speaker 1: been living in an offensive injury purgatory. Now, losing Gentry
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  Speaker 1: does hurt. You can tell same thing with losing losing
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  Speaker 1: kend Adobe, which man, that hurts. That still hurts my soul,
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  Speaker 1: you too, that win, got that win, got kend Adobe.
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  Speaker 1: Man that that that's the one player that I was
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  Speaker 1: hoping would at least be around. But that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a big one. We got our next person in here.
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  Speaker 1: We got Chris. What's going on man, Hornsdown Podcast, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for pulling up. We're about to start talking about
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about the Oxford, talked about the grove.
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  Speaker 1: I was out there. You need to go find a way.
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  Speaker 3: It's worth it.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth it in every capacity. But we're going to
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, mentioned at the beginning, it's not feeling well,
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  Speaker 1: so he couldn't pull up today. But we don't talk
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  Speaker 1: about this game. Man. First, let's lead off with this
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  Speaker 1: first half. We're gonna talk about the good, because damn,
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  Speaker 1: that was a good first half. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: That was exceeded more of my expectations and I see
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  Speaker 1: some of the questions here and I got truth. My my,
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  Speaker 1: my resident Texas fan was good. Truth. You asked a
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  Speaker 1: question about BB. Don't worry. We're gonna talk about the
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  Speaker 1: offensive staff members as we go.
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  Speaker 3: We will.
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  Speaker 1: But that first half.
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  Speaker 3: When I when I.
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  Speaker 1: Watched the way played out, as the memes were flying
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  Speaker 1: online jj F, my apologies. I was not familiar with
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  Speaker 1: your game. That's literally all you saw flying because it
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  Speaker 1: was it was cald Well. You saw a confidence in
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold. You saw even though he got I think
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  Speaker 1: in seventy six plays, I saw the tweek went out
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  Speaker 1: by via PFF. With the first seventy six plays, we
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  Speaker 1: allowed one sack, so as bad as we complained about
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, they weren't really giving up sacks like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was actually pretty solid and it was still banged up.
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  Speaker 1: We still saw a lot of injuries, but overall, you
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  Speaker 1: saw Barnes running hard, you saw movement the defense. Besides
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  Speaker 1: that first possession, which I heard that we had communication
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  Speaker 1: problems the headsets were broken or something like that. That sucks. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I've been seeing all over the places that
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  Speaker 1: I actually I think they said that on the broadcast,
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  Speaker 1: is that they the headsets were out in the first possession.
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  Speaker 1: We looked way more competent in the first half than
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  Speaker 1: we looked the entire season. Then what happened sex and
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt and then everything feel back to shit. First
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  Speaker 1: half though, Talk to me, Jason, how did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about that first half, especially on offense. How did that
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  Speaker 1: make you feel?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it looked good that they had a plan.
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  Speaker 3: You know that there was something brewing there. You could
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  Speaker 3: tell that they were stacking plays off of each other.
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  Speaker 3: It looked very similar to what you saw with Levy
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: So they had a true goal what they were headed towards.
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  Speaker 3: I think that overall, the calls seemed to be the
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  Speaker 3: right way, and they were doing things to get to
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  Speaker 3: keep Jackson from getting punished. They ran the ball pretty effectively.
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  Speaker 3: I like seeing them run more of the outside zone.
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  Speaker 3: Look that they that they had just looked like desive, right,
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  Speaker 3: a little more decisive. So a lot of that was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's some indecisive things that I saw going
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  Speaker 3: on the rest of the game. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 3: obviously in a minute. But overall, I guess it's what
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  Speaker 3: we probably should have expected from JJF, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: what else does he know he's been That's the offense
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  Speaker 3: that he's kind of been cutting his teeth in for
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  Speaker 3: a while now, working with Lane and Levy obviously, so
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  Speaker 3: I think it was the right move. But it, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I liked I was happy about the offense. It was
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  Speaker 3: good to see that. I think that they probably could
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  Speaker 3: have put up some more points and they probably should
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  Speaker 3: have taken the points on the first drive. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 3: couple of times, a couple of things you really wish
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  Speaker 3: they would have done. But I don't care. If you're
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  Speaker 3: going to be aggressive, that's cool. And to be fair,
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  Speaker 3: that first touchdown should have been a touchdown on a
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  Speaker 3: field goal because Bower just dropped that ball. It was
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  Speaker 3: in his bread basket. You gotta catch us, so it
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  Speaker 3: really was.
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  Speaker 1: The good thing is is that he got him in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the end zone with the little live
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  Speaker 1: catch and he brought it in and boom.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah on that next one. But I was talking about
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  Speaker 3: that very first drive, first first to take a lead
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  Speaker 3: or you know, or Tiger game anyway, they let they
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  Speaker 3: gave up that touchdown the first one, but you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: go down and tie it right there. It would have
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  Speaker 3: been you know, it's just important to go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: try to capitalize this, meaning as little as we've been
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  Speaker 3: in scoring range the last month or so. No, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: you hate you don't leave points on the board, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can't leave those points on the field.
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  Speaker 1: You need to take them, especially with how few that
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  Speaker 1: we're getting our hands on right now. Chris, how'd you
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  Speaker 1: feel about that offense and what jumped out to you
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  Speaker 1: in that first half.
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  Speaker 2: I think Jason asked the question earlier this week when
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  Speaker 2: we did a pod as far as what do you
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  Speaker 2: want to see from the offense? One of the top
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  Speaker 2: three things, and when I think one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I named was a heavy script for Jackson normal
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  Speaker 2: basically seeing him be able to go out there, and
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  Speaker 2: as you heard the announcers or the commentators or whatever
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  Speaker 2: what they said, and then well, I think we obviously knew,
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  Speaker 2: let's go find the best plays for Jackson. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: find a place he's the most comfortable with. You saw
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  Speaker 2: him comfortable in the pocket. You saw him reading, trying
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  Speaker 2: to grow through, trying to go through progressions, right, you
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  Speaker 2: saw the confidence, you saw checkdowns. Right. Biggest thing for
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  Speaker 2: me was was just as simple fact as you simplified
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  Speaker 2: the offense almost where things were going north south and
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  Speaker 2: when you were weren't running screens, it was still more
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  Speaker 2: north south than it was anything east west right, biggest thing,
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing to me, like I said, for the longest,
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  Speaker 2: and I still say this, not every everybody's not talking
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  Speaker 2: about this underlying theme of that offense. Uh, prior to
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  Speaker 2: that first half that we saw yesterday. The fact of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the matter is that you notice you have your top
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: five wide receivers out. You know that your offensive line
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: has been bummy and injury from right. You know that, yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you know that that has the injury bug has has
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: been in this team on defense and offense. I think
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the simple fact of the of the matter is is
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: that Seth Patrell with him. It felt like, hey, even
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: with the guys that we had, the Carrions, the current,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Ragings, now you got Jacob Jordan, that mix peedaway.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: You can't go out there and run competent offense. You
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: can't run a simple offense, maybe even just a basic
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: install where you're just trying to get guys loose right,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: narrow down the playbook to nine, ten, eleven plays or whatnot.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Don't go out there and run some complicated scheme or
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. It doesn't matter who is
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: that quarterback. They need help. You got to be able
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to scheme some guys open. So I was definitely pleased
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: with that. It just felt like you saw first half
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: to me, spoke not only competent offense, but complimentary football.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: We have that brand of football, we're running that type
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: of offense. We're sitting here, I think, in the different seats,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: different temperature, different measuring stick, et cetera, et cetera. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: definitely was pleased with what I saw in the first half.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: It really does look like Jackson Ornold can potentially again
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: be the quarterback of the future here in Norman. So, Nick,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it's still a project. I still think it's a wait
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and see. But I think that yesterday, from what you
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: saw from him in some of the flashes that you've
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: seen from Hawkins, if you could keep those two guys around,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that kind of makes you feel like, Okay, Well, with
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the new OC that we do bring in, that question
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: of whether or not we should bring in a portal quarterback,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be an interesting question because I believe that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you do have talent in this quarterback room. You just
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: have to get the right coach to be able to
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: bring that really really help them realize their full potential.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But again, Jackson normal, he made me kind of believe
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that again seeing that because that's a good defense and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: he Golden didn't come out. I think the first half,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: like I told you guys from the get go, that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: was going to be the battle anyway, jj F versus
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: fourth and Golden, Right, what is Pete Golden trying to do?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Second half? I think he actually said, oh, excuse me.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I think Kiffin probably went in there and said, hey,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: what what are we doing, Like dude, Let's just run
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: them out like let's adjust and less like run them
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: like like what are we doing? Like like tighten up,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: stop running loose stuff, stop doing being loose with the scheme.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: We don't have to do anything exotic. Let's just run football,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: right hey.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Honestly, what I saw out of that though, is as
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: soon as Sexton got hurt, Yeah, Princely was like, go
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: after that, dude, he can't handle any of us. Give
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: me him one on one, give me a one on one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And that's all they started. They just kept saying Perkins game.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: No doubt. And I think that that was They're definitely
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: hurt him, right though, right because and honestly, Sexton played
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: better than you've really seen him play this year, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: because that's a life to be desired. When he was
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: moving in and out, they weren't sure what they were
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: doing with him. I think he he had too much
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: in his head or something, because yesterday starting him off
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: there and leaving him there, he was the guy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah No, And someone made a good point here just
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a second ago, brand and made this really good point
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: about you know who wasn't really I'm saying that JJF
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: with the play calling because he's knows the terminology that's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: why he's the play caller. He knows all the terms
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and John's doesn't. But I think John's working with the quarterbacks,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and really JJF looked confident out there. He was very
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: decisive and the one thing I didn't.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Know what was gonna get thrown out him a little
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: bit that week.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Right, and it was fascinating. The most to me was
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if you notice, like as holes were opening like run
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: lanes for him at quarterback. If he couldn't get rid
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: of the ball within that three second frame, he was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: going to those run lanes. Now, granted, o Miss didn't
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: play this like Texas did. Texas literally had Anthony he'll
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: find whatever the hole was, and he just fieled it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That's literally his entire roll defense, which was very genius
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to do that against Michael Hawkins. It's he's probably gonna
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: tuck after two looks, stay there, stay that direction, and boom.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He It was perfect. Then, So Ole Miss didn't do
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that because I don't think they believe Jackson Arlo's enough
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of a threat running. Y'all know that he had one
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing in this game, right, if you take
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: away the sacks, take away the net number, that they
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: do because they you know, deduct them because of sacks.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: He had one hundred yards rushing in this game. Yeah right,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Chris is like, Okay, that's not bad. Dude had a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing in this game.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: So it it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And and then as you get to the to the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: sacks in the second half, y'all know that we had
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: we got sacked six times in the last two possessions.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay, Jack, brutal Jack. Look, you run the show,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but I gotta bag it up. I got to bag
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it up to that first.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, bag it at the first. I keep it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Jason and I talked about something yesterday right on our
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: postgame pod and and I said, hey, look now, JJF
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: was perfect up to a point. Why are you running
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: pop passes. Get your quarterback who's been able to extend
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: plays and run, give him options, Give him a first
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: option and a second option. Do a sprint play, do
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: some type of sprint, some type of bootleg. Get him
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: out there where he has probably a guy running basically
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: running an orbit route in the end zone. Then you
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: got your your your running back, or you can have
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: BAERs Sharp whoever at that second level to give him
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: options and guess what, you got blockers in front of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: him with the running back to tight end to give
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: him a chance to go in there and make a
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: two yard touchdown. What are we doing? Why are we
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: running pot passes?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Work against Houston, that's gonna work against Temple, That's not
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: gonna work against these teams every single time. And you
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: run it twice.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right because in the in the beginning
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: of the game, started to see them move the pocket around, right,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you do those sprints, like you said, those sprint outs,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: those boot legs, and that's when you started to see
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the comfort of jack sonnlal because he actually throws very
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: well on the run. I don't like running that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: On the best right, always was best was running getting
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: out of the pocket, rolling the pocket to one side
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: of the other, and letting him be an athlete.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I don't like the I don't like the doing it
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: on the short side, like I don't want you to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: throw it to the sideline and has somebody try to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: extend and do those mad catches. No, give it to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: give do it in space, give me more space. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I think that if we would leverage more space, things
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: have been better. But overall, first half though, Man, that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is what If we would have had that all season,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: we would be having much better outlook this season, much
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: better outlook. That's all you needed. Even with all the injuries.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: You you you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Your quarterback's not getting leveled all the time. That that helps.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: That helps a lot. And then of course as Sexton
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: goes down with sucks and I'm hoping that it's nothing serious,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: but I know he was slamming his arm on the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: g and Jackson I don't look distressed. The minute that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he was down there, I was like, uh oh, you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: can see it on his face. Everybody in the stateum
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: were looking at each other like, yeah, I don't think
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this is a good situation. And you're bringing the red
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: shirt freshman and so as a lot of people have
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: said we should play the young guys, you have to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: understand every player we have that are recruits are red
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: shirt sophomores and down. Except for Sexton and Taylor, they
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: came into twenty two class. Actually no, that makes them
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: red shirt sophomores. So yeah, either red shirt sophomores are
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: down with recruits. All of them are young. Your transfers
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: are your veterans, and that's why we had to dig
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: into the portal because we had no more veteran presence.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: All of our veterans were gone. We had like five
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: dudes go league. Four dudes hit the portal because they
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna play. But you're young and that sucks. That sucks,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and then at injuries on top of it, that sucks.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So we yeah, snake bitten. As it's mentioned in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in the Chattel lot, we were snake bitting.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: So that's why were their heads though, is when you've
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: got issues, if you've got a bunch of issues all together,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the big one is going to be decision making. Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: it wasn't good. There weren't decisions being made that were
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: for the benefit of this offense from day one. So
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: when you have a bunch of injuries to key people,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it's going to show up a lot more.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It does, it magnifies everything around it. You're one hundred
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: percent right, And that was that was why you had
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to make a offensive coordinator change. You could tell it's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: just there was no response. It wasn't working. It looked bad,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: just bad. But this game looked good for the first
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: one and I'm hoping this is something we could built
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: off of. We got made this weekend.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna pretend like that one shouldn't
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: be a good one for us. We've got Maine, then
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we travel on Missouri, which to me, Zeri's I look
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: too good without their quarterback. We'll talk about them later,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we'll batter them because because when Brady I think, what
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is cook hand broken? Somebody said they think his hand's broken.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: He heard his ankle the week before this game. Somebody
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: was say anything that his hands broken. I don't know.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: There is one There is one fix that you have
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to make to beat Missouri. And we'll talk about that later.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he did injury it. So he did
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: injured his hand against Bama. Heard his ankle the week before.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: They shot him up, and he went back in the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: game and won it. Who did they play last last week?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Was it Vandy?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was Auburn. Auburn. Auburn costs me money
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: with that mess. But anyway, punks makes me mad.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Never never believe in Auburn. I've learned my lesson on it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Never believe in them. But anyway, here's ankle on that game,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: comes back late, wins it. Then he hurts his hand
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: against UH Bama. That's gonna be interesting. We'll talk Missouri
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit later, but before we jump on kind
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of how the defense played, we gotta talk a little
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: bit more about how about the staff, because the question
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: has been popped up in here a lot about the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: offensive line about Bill beat and Bow. Everybody's asking about
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: this guy. So I'll say this, this is my one
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: take heavy on it, and I'll probably do a long
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: form video on a little bit later. I blame Brent
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Vnables for the seth Latrell hire. He tried to do
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: something and it just did not work. He should have
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: went ahead and went and went a little bit over
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the Ledge said, screw the quote unquote continuity. Find somebody
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that you feel I could have worked closely with your quarterback. Now, granted,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we thought since Latrell was here for the last season
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: as analysts that it should have been a good handover,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and obviously it was not. But I'm glad that they
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: did bring Kevin Johns in and JP Lossman still works
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: with them, and Jack Lowry, who's one of the assistants,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: works with them. I'm glad we have that. But this
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is on BV. The only thing good for BV is
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they're gonna give him as five years. He's gonna get
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: next season, he's gonna get the last year after that,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and that's it. That's he's got two years to figure
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: out not being competent, but being good. So this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: on him. This is his first one. Actually this is
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: his second one. His first mistake was the ted Roof situation.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But guess what he fixed that? Zach ally looks good.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: It wasn't it. And the thing was is that's they
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: didn't have the players yet. I mean, they were still
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: working to get the right guys with the players. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: don't think ted Roof was necessarily the right guy, but
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I also don't think he was running anything either.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well that's the problem. I think that's where
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the problem lies. You can't have a dude here that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: can't run the defense for you and you not be
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: able to focus on everything. That's where the time management
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: piece comes in, calling a proper timeouts. BV needs to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: focus on those things, and having former head coaches was
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: supposed to help you with that, right, That's what Latrol
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be there for. He was a former
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: head coach. Didn't work out for defense. He fixed it,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you know, didn't bring ted Ruf back, brought in young
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Zach Allien, and Zach ally looks good and the players
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: love him. That's that was a redeeming factor. Now he's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: to do the same thing on the offense side. Because
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all, so many people I've been seeing
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: so many real people on the bird app saying they
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: missed Levy. I could have sworn they were to say
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: one saying Levey gotta go, and or am I crazy?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I'm one of those people on that and feeling I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: was a.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Bit that I didn't have to say it for you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this right here, because you look at Levy.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Levy's moving the ball on just about everybody. Now, he's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: not winning, but he's moving the ball on a lot
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of people. I think that he may he may have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: learned his lessons about time management, about not going out
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: there and having fifty second tribes.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's a quarterback as he Look that's.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: True, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Van Buren is Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Like I said yesterday, Look, I know some people are out,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: some people are this and that, whatever the case may be.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I got all the faith in the world and BV.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's gonna take seeing him hire and OC and coming
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in here and following on his face yet again right
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: after the seth of the trail debacle. It's gonna take seeing
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a competent OC, big name, whatever name, however you want
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to go about it. It's gonna take that to really
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: convince me or show me that hey, no, this I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily know if this is gonna work because I
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: feel like that defense he came in here and did
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: what we thought was going to be impossible and pretty
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: much fix your defense. Right I think the defensive numbers
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: will be even better right now if we had a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: better offense. But I still believe in BV. I do
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Your defense. I mean, if you're not getting first downs
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: at all, you're killing your defense.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: What's crazy too even say that? In this past game
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we had twenty four total first downs. Yep, we got
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: sixteen of them in the first half. I was thoroughly
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: impressed with just the fact of moving the ball getting
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that and I felt like that helped the defense. I mean,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we only gave up ten points in the first half.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That's what you want, right especially against the SEC team
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that puts up numbers. This is a team that puts
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: up numbers. They're not one that that doesn't. They literally
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that's what Lane training them typically does. Yep, that helps.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: But if they lose to Maine, all bets are off.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: He's gone by the time that you know, he's gone
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: by the time to get the locker room.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that's very true. And Dave, this is exactly it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Same one's yelling for his job, the same one say
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it was a great higher. He was also the same
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: one that the people are saying Leby needs to be fired,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: but we were all excited Leby got there and was
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: dump numbers. It's the complimentary balls critical but the same time, Yeah,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that that's that's exactly it. And Matt, what's going on man? Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the roof hire doesn't really move the needle for me
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: as a major mistake, to be honest, there's a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: more things to choose from on the list of things
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: BV hasn't done right. No, I totally agree with you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that I'm looking at more so the hiring aspect because
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think with recruiting, it's it's recruiting is a little different,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and that's recruiting is a uphill battle for all all coaches.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: It's it's it requires internal compliance and all of that
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: stuff that you have to duke it out with. So
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: there's there's like levels for that portion of But I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: get what you're saying. I just felt like when it
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: comes to your coaching hires, that one was an issue
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: where we knew it was a glaring issue, and he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: rectified it. Now it gets to do it again because
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I think I thought Levy was the perfect higher for
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the the short term situation that we were dealing with
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: when he was first brought off here to the team.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Right you're losing all these you need to find a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback because you don't know if Caleb's gonna come back,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and Caleb decides not to come back last minute, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: so then you're out there in the portal church for
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, and luckily you get a quarterback.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: That was the formal former, the.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Former quarterback for the OC. It helped, so we got
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: we lucked out in a lot of stuff. We still
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: need more things to go down, but this OC hire
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is gonna be big. But the offensive line man, look,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I have all the trust in the world and Bill
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: beating Bob. I also went back and looked at some
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of the other recruits that they brought in. Chris, me,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you talked about this a few times. That man had
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: his that man was recruiting me with one hand behind
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: his back.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, Jay, can I can I do it? Go ahead?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: No?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: No, ahead, go ahead, And I'm good.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say so. I've been talking about this
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: for the longest. I'm an shout out to this guy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: He left his comment on a video mina a while ago.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: He said about six days ago JB D y nine
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: b L shout out to you. But he said, our
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: old line depth has been decimated over the last two
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to three seasons with the transfers out and early draftees
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: beating Bow lost a lot of dudes who should be
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: starting for us and not not the teams they are
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: starting for now. So he had to go go transfer
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: portal trash players. Uh to even field a roster out
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: this season this season last second, people need to go
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: dump some emotions and pull their heads out of well
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: their ass, right. So I just want to put that
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: out there because I'm asked to chat and obviously ask
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: you guys, do you guys agree with that coming?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So well, who's starting at other schools. Is starting somewhere.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Start that's in you. I think he's still kind of
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: going through the same mental fog.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: What about parts Aaron Parks? Is he starting in South Carolina?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: What about bray Walker? Because I'm I'm just naming off
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the people that I mean. Only one that we lost
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that we all felt like was paying was Kayden Green
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and he got bitched.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's me. I think that Bill Beadenbow missed on
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: these portal guys. He misidentified talent there, there's no there.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: You can't even we can't even take up for him
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: on that one. Okay, And I'm one of the biggest
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Bill beating Bow apologists there is. He missed this one.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that it's his fault on all of
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: this stuff, guys. It doesn't mean that it's his fault
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: on the rest of it. Now, I would, I would
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: people forget this. They also had a damn yoga instructor
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: all up until the last few years. So it takes
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: time when you start losing guys. That are some guys
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: just don't work out them. One number two, If you
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: don't have strengths, how the hell are you gonna do
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: well on the on the old line.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Now I get you and save Yon Bird's playing. He's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: starting to play a little bit more there at SMU.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Now he's going to get ou too.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has his momentary too. You're very fair. No,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: why you're hunbtent correct to me? The slander of Bill
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: beaten Bow. You have to take in context going back
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and looking at some of the old classes. Yeah, look
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: at some of the old players that were recruited and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that were all built, like you mentioned for that aesthetic.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Twenty two was Sexton twenty Yeah, right, Sexton and Taylor
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: were your twenty two guys. There were. I think they're
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the only two in that class outside of I think
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it was Colin. Was Colin Montgomery in that class too,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I think? So let me verify. I will tell y'all
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: right now, But twenty two you didn't have a lot
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of had a lot of guys because the twenty one
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: guy transferred out and you had Wanye Moris transfer in.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Anti Harrison was the only one left. Anton Harrison ended
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: up going first round, so he did well there. But
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: most of these dudes, Yeah, when I'm looking on here
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: on the offensive side, Yeah, there was no good Lord
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Taylor and Sexton. Where you're two linemen in that class,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that was it. You brought in transfers, McKay, Mattower, You
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: brought in Tyler Geydon. He was defensive lineman at that point,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and he transferre him to a first rounder. So yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: coming in, that's what you had starting with that twenty
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: twenty two, and then you had all the other dudes
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: from twenty one that most of them started to transfer
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it out. Twenty three is probably the first class that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Bill Beaton Bow actually had. Was Yeah, Colin Montgomery was
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: twenty one. That's four dudes. You are in four dudes
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: in twenty three, and that's what we're starting to see now.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Ye had Kayden Green ring in, Logan Holland, Joshua Bates,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and Heath Zada. We saw Zada who's looking pretty solid,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: not great, but he's solid for a young guy. He's
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: figuring it out, he's getting his weight up.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Baits.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, Holland's got a lot more work. He hasn't got
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: ready yet, but he's also playing at tackle and he's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a converted tight end. Let me see. Walter Rouse came
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in that transferred and Walter Rouse ended up going lead.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Troy Everett was a transfer in and Troy Evers now
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the starting center and he looks good. So you got
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of you got a lot of young pieces.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And then of course it's because that class was four
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and then the twenty four class had five offensive linemen,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and then this next class will have four right now,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: which we massed you try to go for a fifth.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You got for Susie Fojet. And as some people have said,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's known about coming to the SEC since twenty one.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Why weren't we prepared? We had an entire different staff
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: before that. Did people not realize that the staff that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: knew about us moving here as far as.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Leadership goes, they found out the far leadership out as
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: soon as they found out.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing about it is is that the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: head coach allocates your scholarships. And in those classes in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty and twenty one, we were taking like seventeen dudes,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: eighteen dudes.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Hell, sometimes like fifteen. With the classes that we were taking.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Shout out to our guy, Ty Hayes. You guys go
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: around the table sports, but Ty would always say, hey,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: look ou is bringing in a higher quality player at
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: every at each level than most teams, even though they're
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: taking only a few. That's why they're ranked inside the
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: top ten or right there outside the top ten and
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: recruiting under Lincoln. Right. But I also said, hey, you
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: know pretty much. I mean, yeah, you go get Billy Bowman,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: but you got to get a couple of Billy Bowman's.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You can't just go get one, right one. You can't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: just go get one Nick Benito and then that's it. Right,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So you would go get special players and all the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: rest of that stuff. But you know a lot of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: those guys just didn't work out with this regime here.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: But you inherited the sins of your father, and the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: thing is is that you've just kind of worked this roster.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I think that in hindsight, and Jason, this is where
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I you know, I slept on it, and I do
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: agree with you. BV needs to make some better decisions
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: overall with this program going forward. Yeah, and one of
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: those I think that he you know, me and my
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: uncle we talk about this all the time. I think
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: one thing that BV regrets probably the most, and this
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: is me just putting thoughts and words in his mind
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: in his mouth. I bet you that twenty two season
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: coming here, he wouldn't have did it the Clemson way.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Trying to win with the guys that we had the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: portal a lot harder than what he did to try
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to get a couple a couple more guys on top
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of what he did in here, because I think now
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: he realizes that would have at least kind of gave
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: him some time to kind of set up up for
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you know, and maybe go get some kids that maybe
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: had maybe a year or two of eligibility still you
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying, instead of getting some of those
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: one year rentals like we did with like Colding and
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and and the other kids. So I think that's something
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: in hindsight you got to look at. So there were
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: some there were some missteps that were taken, right, I
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: wouldn't true mistakes, but I would say there's some missteps
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that were that were had and so that has kind
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of shown up ugly in this first inaugural season. And
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I think I think the thing that kind of gives
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you some slight optimism is simply this, it's not necessarily
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: because we're in the SEC. I think a lot of
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the problems that we have are self inflicted, right, now. Yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: we got to correct that to be able to say, hey, okay, now,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: is it an sec problem that we would get in
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: over our head or is it just still us right?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But right now it's they. We're mostly in our own way.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bagman say it this great, he say, learned
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: from old school guys, Bob Dad Bowensnyder. He's also a
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: nice He's not cut through enough for this business. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, You're not wrong. That is actually
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the one thing that I've been thinking about as of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: late that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: On this one too.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, because I've been thinking
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: about this as well. I'm like, I think the biggest
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: problem for BB, for our guy, you know, BB, is
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: that he's too darn life sometimes.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: And he's he is not quick to make decisions. Man,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: He's indecisive, emblematic of the whole thing. Thinking about going
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: forward down to scores late in the third you need
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: a time out to decide to punt.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that annoyed me.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the decision you want to go
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: for it there. It's probably not the best time to
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: go for that in that situation, being on your own thirty.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: But you shouldn't need a time out to make the
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: choice not to do that. If you're gonna take a
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: time out right there, you need to come out with
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: the play and be continuing going down the field.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you make that decision. Yeah, you gotta go ahead
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and just do it. Just just rip the band aid
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and go out there and go for it. Go ahead
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and drop your nuts and go.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: And I don't have a problem with dropping your nuts
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: in situations like that. I'm I'm with you that you
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: can you know, you don't have to go there. And again,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of those guys that says you have
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: to go for it all the time either. I think
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: earlier in the game they should have taken the damn points,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I said that. When I was saying
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the same I was like, yeah, that those three points
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: are gonna hunt us later on in this game, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: is unfortunately, it.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Is emblematic of his inability to make a decision in
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: a timely matter, which is the same thing with Seth Latrell.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Why did you wait another couple of weeks when we
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: knew he wasn't the guy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, I'm with you on that part.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: And so that that's gonna be the indictment on BV
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. But that's another thing too. As
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: as Badman mentioned, I mentioned this before on the show.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Bv's a nice dude, Like legitimately, everyone loves him, every
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: single every parent I've talked to, even for recruits that
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: didn't come here, they're like, it wasn't because of BV.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't because the offer on the table. It was
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: because of that. We just felt like this one's a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: little bit better for us at the time, but that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that is the nicest human being I've ever met, and
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you can tell he genuinely cares. Sometimes that sucks because Chris,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: you made the perfect point. I've had a few people
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: say this before and one hundred percent agree. The one
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: thing that BV is going to regret is not cleaning
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the houses first year. He was like, no, I'm gonna
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: get people a chance. I'm not gonna do what Prime did. Now,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you should have did what Prime did. Hindsight fifty to fifty,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: as Cam Newton would say, his hindsight is fifty to fifty.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: You you think that you should have been like, Nah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to clean house.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: And second and second year he did.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Second year, he did.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Coming into this year, he did a little bit, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I think I think this season here he'll do it
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: even more. I think he's right. He's for some of
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the mistakes missteps that he has, he's made a lot
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of progress. And I think one thing, regardless if today
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: was the last day that he was the head coach
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: or two years, three years, ten years down the road,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I think one thing that we would have to always
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: thank VV for is getting us in il ready, getting
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: us to the point where we're thinking SCC minded, like
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: right the point where this program is doing the overhaul
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and people are trying to write those checks, trying to
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: cash out to try to get the best product there.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: So I mean that's the reason why I say, like, look,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I get it. There's some things that come with time.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: There's some things that have shown up early and often
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: that we don't like. But people, this is what I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: would say to y'all, you can't tell me that you
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: don't think that a competent defense, I mean, a competent OC,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: a companent offense pair with this defense couldn't go out
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: there and do the same thing as you've seen. And
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: as I told you, guys, as I told you, guys,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you can call it the SEC and all the rest
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. There's a lot of teams out there
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: struggling day Jason, we talked about it a few years ago.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: This was going to be a perfect year for OU,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: for Texas to be in the SEC. Why people are
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: starting new quarterbacks, people have new coaches, people have coaches
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: taking over historic programs.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Which one of these coaches, aside from Kirby, has done
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: anything in this league.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: The only one that's gotten close is Brian Kelly, who
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: played in the SEC championship game. That's about it. Yeah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: And now it looks like it's gonna be between them
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and A and M and Texas at the end of
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the season figuring out who's gonna go in Georgia.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: And that's and that's the that's the funny thing about
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: it going into next year, the narrative is going to
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: be a lot of people are still starting over, right
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: because mill Rose's going and you say, okay, well, ty Sepson,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: he's just stepping there and just light it up. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: don't know, right, Van? Are they? Who are they? Who?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: They returned a returned to Pavia Kid and all the
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: rest of those people there and there, they're probably gonna
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: lose a lot. So, I mean, it's a lot that's unknown, man,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: because we'll stick to this season. And I'm just telling y'all,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: like the SEC right now, it's not wide open, it
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: it's none of that. But I'm just telling you that
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: it's a lot that has happened this year has shown
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: me there's a lot of parody in the SEC right now.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it's it looks like it.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: I mean Texas almost lost to Vandy yesterday. That makes
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that tells you a lot. Yeah, when Vandy has gotten
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: good that fast in the SEC, don't tell me that
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the SEC is unwinnable.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's. It's. It's it's very it's it's extremely competitive.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Jason that that every top to bottom, it's everybody's balling.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: And to be honest, the Big ten is looking a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: little bit more scary than people want to give credit to.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: A and M goes, well, yeah, and think about it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: A and M goes from what are they eight and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: five last year? Seven and five? Yes, yeah, seven and
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: five they and they beat the crap out of LSU yesterday. Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Here they are undefeated in the SEC a year after
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: that in one year, so you can flip this thing around.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: It's all with this defense that Oklahoma has, which will
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: be better if you have a competent offense. You're good.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: You can flip this thing quick. You just have to
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: do it though.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. You got to go be aggressive
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: at this point moving forward, the nice guy thing to
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: other coaches has to go. You gotta continue to be
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: great to recruits, be great human being in general, because
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: we like people with integrity around here. You need to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: go be aggressive in the portal with some big name
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: portal players, and you also need to be aggressive on
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the recruiting trail and rebuild this pipeline. I mean, go
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: after some recruits. Go after some recruits that you've been
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: looking for. Jesson, thanks for the two bucks, fireb. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: don't care what you say. Game pass them by. Yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think that that's completely wrong. So I disagree with you.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: They hunters disagree with you. There, Uh, we'll get Michael
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Fasusi and Ryan Foje, which looks fantastic. He's already top
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: top ten tackle. So you got two top ten tackles
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: coming in in this next cycle, all because of Bill
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: beating bow. That's gonna change it for everybody. Honestly, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: may see Foge get some rotations early, but I'm wait.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I'm hopefully we'll see Isaiah Autrey Dent in the next
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: couple of games. We're hitting that that four game mark
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: now where it's time to play those dudes because because
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you won't jeopardize their rich shirt. To me, it main
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I want to see epl I want to see Autrey.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I want to see some bj Brooks. Right, shoot, toss
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: me a little Isosa in there if you need to,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: But I want to see at least those three, like
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: now play them against May that way we can see
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna get moving forward. But Jason, outside of
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: that part of it, it's going on the running back
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: room man. Barnes works his butt off. Yeah, I gotta
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: give him that.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: We'll see had a little more vision sometimes, but he
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: but he was hitting the spots yesterday and running hard.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I like watching him play.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the the He's one of the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: hardest workers. You could tell he runs hard. All you
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: gotta do is get that man going. But he runs hard.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: He does he's.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: You do that, you get him, you get him downhill,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and honestly, we talked about his vision. It's funny he
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: had some nice little steps when he was catching those
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: balls on the check down. Thank god. We were checking
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: down very often too, thank you. I've been calling for
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: that all year.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I was very happy to see some throws out of
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: the into the running back coming out of the backfield. Yes, yeah,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: happier than anything in that first half that you saw
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: a lot where he just turned and tossed it to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: the side and you're getting six, eight, ten yards out
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: of it every time. You should see definitely more of it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I'd love to see more of that kind of stuff,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: and we've been calling for it forever, so the more
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: you see those kind of things, the better. I just
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of things that the offense
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't to start the season, and a lot of that
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: adds up to what any deficiencies that the defense has
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: right now, you kind of spend some time on the field,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: you've got to slow them down. It's not just that
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: you're aware, it's that they're getting worn out, because I
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: don't think that's always the case. I think some of
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: it is that the defense starts feeling like they got
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: to do too much. They got to do more. They
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: got to go in there and get a pick six,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: so they they, you know, try to take away one
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: that maybe you should have gambled there. You know, you
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: see Bill, you see Billy Bowman gamble a lot. It
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: works for him sometimes, but there's certain times that you
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: don't want him doing that. And I think that that's
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that's all a byproduct of what happens on the offensive side.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: If it's not working out. Well, we're not used to
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: seeing that at ou what I used to seeing that, right,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: But we're not.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: We're not. And I don't know when I get I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: get the frustration that everybody has. I'm I now get
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: to see his actual classes as that he that he's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: tried to build for the SEC get to now play.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I look at all of that differently in comparison. I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: don't look at it the same as before, right, I don't.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I don't look at it last time like a lot
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of people are looking at I'm looking at That's the
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: thing that I'm looking at the I'm looking at the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: big picture here, and I know that we've got some
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: dudes that are growing up. I was hoping that the
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: transfer would be able to come in and be a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: nice little bandage for the young guys so that we
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: start rotating them in and getting them some play. Didn't
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: work out, couldn't keep them by healthy happens, fortunately, But
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I but again, I disagree on the idea of firing Beaten.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Both as our resident Texas fan here keeps saying, please
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: go ahead and fire him. They want that to happen
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: because they will try to swoop twist.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Rare that I agree with. Frightening truth.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: They will try to swoop him up, which I get so,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: but anyway, Chris talk to me about No, I don't
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: know what happened, Chris, you you you you went black
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and then it just it was like, I'll bring him
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: back in when he comes back. But anyway, running back,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: so I was we were talking about talking about Barns
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and how nice he looked catching the ball out the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: backfield and he was cutting on people. Oh yeah, that happened.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: That was That was one of the better games that
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: he's had in a while. The skill set that, the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: flashes that we saw in his freshman year. It's back right.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I want to see him how maybe just a tad
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: bit more wiggle, But I mean, I thought the kid
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: was running hard. I think he what he made. He
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: made a couple of plays, he made something out of nothing,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of times where I was like, oh, that
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that stretch play, that little HP toss, that's not gonna work,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: and then you know, there he goes for another five
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: six yards. He was able to help us move the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: change to stay out of third and longs. He helped
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: us an awful lot. Uh, it's on us to really
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: really work on that. That's something I want to see
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: in this main game, try to get in the rhythm
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: of really converting those third downs and kind of working
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: on efficiency on that. But I thought that he was
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: really good in his space. He gave, he gave, He
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: gave Jackson Arnold just really a safety valve right. One
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: other thing that I would say, gotta hang on to
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the ball. But that run that led to that, that
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: and then ultimately was a fumble vi Tatum. That was,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: if if not the most explosive run play I've seen
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: all year from one of our running backs. He found
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: a hole and he hit that, and I was like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: that's our guy.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: That yeah, Yeah, that's our guy.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Gotta hold onto the ball. Uh, definitely, we definitely got
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: to get the pass blocking better for him. But when
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I saw that, I said, that's our guy, you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like Sam Franklin all the rest of that stuff. Play Hicks,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Gotta play Hicks.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why we're not playing Hicks.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta play Higgs. Hicks, Hicks, Hicks, Hicks is
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of do it all right right now.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I think those would be my top three running backs
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: right now if I if I was running out there,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I think Hicks Hicks can Can can kind of give
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: you the best of both worlds between your bruiser, who
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: would be Javonte and then kind of just your you know,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: your scat back for Nest back with with Tatum at
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: this point uh in his career, so I think he's
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: kind of the tweiner in between those. So I I
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: was pleasantly surprised the way we were able to run
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the ball, But I think we've all been screaming for
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: it early in this season. Run off the tackles, stop
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: doing this whole inside run game, all the rest of
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that stuff. You're not gonna be able to do any
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of that until probably next year, hopefully when everything jails better.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: But for right now, we're running off the tackles really
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: really well. And that's the reason why I'm saying, Jay, like,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: get these guys out in space, give them a chance
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: opposed to trying to run a pop pass or run
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: something that's so compact over the middle, unless unless Baron
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Sharp is thrown open or he's just open. I like
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: him when he catches the ball and he's in space
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: and he's he's faster than what he looks when he's running.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: But I don't like this. I don't I don't like
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Baron Sharp going and trying to make a a competitive graph.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I don't like that whenever he's making having to having
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: to really go through the trash and try to make
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: a contested catch. I don't like that. Right, So that's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: why I'm saying, get get them out in space. But
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: you saw a lot of that, which I really liked it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: But I thought saw I mean, I thought Burns ran
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: really hard that uh Tatum, for what it's worth, thought
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: he looked good at times. He was able to run
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: the ball as well and show some power. Just just
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: got to keep tournament.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: No, I agree, Jason. Defensive line, we started to see
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: some pressure go we started to see some movement. Little
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Kayden Wooller got his first sack of his career. Yeah, man,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: how'd you feel about the way the defense was running
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: on the on the rush in that game?
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Look, nobody stops this team like that. When's the last
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: time that you saw somebody get ole miss to like
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: be real bad other than the Kentucky game. It's the
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: last time that you really saw it then? Yet well
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: it was twenty seven to twenty four in the LSU
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: game something like that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I want to say that's right, all right. They were
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: getting after Jackson Darty in a way that they're not
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: used to really having them do that. So I've always
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I think that that's we've got the best defensive line
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: probably in the SEC from left to right, you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: because then everything that you're getting from Jaden Jackson, which
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: is huge as a freshman kid to get guys like
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Willard coming in. He's been waiting to get that sacked
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: for a while now. He's been so close on you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: throughout these games. He had looked like that one game
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: against Tennessee, he was on this. He was all over
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Hush Norman, relax, Uh, Norman understands. Yeah, he's pissed off too.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah see, but no, it's it's yeah continue yeah, no, No,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I was just saying that was that's the big thing.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: They've been doing really well on the d line. That
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: was the big reason that you brought Brent Venables in
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: was so that they could get You keep talking about
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: sec Ready. Everybody keeps talking about sec Ready, sec Ready,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: the sec Ready parties in the trenches. They've done it
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: in the trenches. Now the offensive line, with all the
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: injuries and everything that's been going on, it's not good
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: this year. I don't think it's very far away from
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: being good. Guys like Isaiah Autry Dan coming next year,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna see a lot more of VPL
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: next year. You've got Fasusi and fo j coming. But
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: right now, they are down lavad line that's kept us
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: in every football game aside from you know, the obviously
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: the South Carolina game was an anomaly. You can't go
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: down twenty one nothing in five minutes and expect to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: be in that game.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Right right, And the way the defensive line has played overall,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: it feels like it still feels like the team just
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: kind of gets into a shell. Whenever they realize you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: have the offense ain't gonna be able to do nothing.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: It's like they're done, they're cooked.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, the but you know, and but the edge play,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: you'd say, you need better edge play sooner, cowboys. But
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: it's been really good. It's been really good. They're getting
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: the guys getting sacks. I mean we're fourth and we're
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: fourth in the country in.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Sacks you yesterday. Yesterday really boiled down to the fact
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: that they were picking up easy yardage and first downs
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: over the middle, and then they were they were scoring
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: touchdowns really off of kind of some of those chunk
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: plays with uh with talking about the corners. Yeah, but
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: uh D line wise or whatnot. The only only thing
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: that I would say is is that however many sacks
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: that we had yesterday, we should have doubled that, maybe
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: even tripled that, because there was there was a bunch.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Of one sack in the game. We had a lot
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: of pressure. Think we had fifteen total pressures.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: We had a lot of pressures, a lot of hurries
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: that bore hits, Yeah, ten hurries.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Jackson was Jackson dark was definitely uncomfortable and on awful
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: lot that pocket was getting blown up a bunch Willer.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Willard was having it, having himself a day, he was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: getting he was getting a lot of hurries. Would a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: love for him to to uh, to have had at
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: least maybe one or two more sacks. And it's been
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: showing all year, like what is his eligibility? Does he
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: have a chance to? Is this it?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: This is last year? This is it?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I think the guy will be able to. I think
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: he does make the league all the rest of that stuff.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: But man, the production thing, the numbers, Man, the numbers,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: the numbers will evade him, have invaded him. Excuse me.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: But what I would say is you can put on
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: tape and say, hey, man, this guy just that much more,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: that much more strained effort. Whatever is the azured if
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: you want to use or whatever, but man, that much
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: more like and you're there. But yeah, yesterday, man, I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: thought the D line was good for the most part.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I just think that there was some when we fell
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: back in zone, there was still just some some holes
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: right there. And then for whatever it's worth, man, dB
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: play dB play.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: No, I get you there. It went into the linebackers
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: and DB's linebackers were okay in this game. He lost
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Chris again. You stood there, Chris, Yeah, I'm here. Oh okay,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: yeah you went to you. We went mute and black.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: But I think the the linebackers were okay. They weren't good.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: They weren't great, they were they were okay. I mean
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Danny did good on the run stopping overall man linebackers
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: like they were all over the place. Uh. To me,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: McCulla did pretty good. He seemed to be in a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And then you see Ethan downs go down,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: which that sucks.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, goes down a monster though, right, I mean he's hey.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I gotta say this. That was one of the worst
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: takes I had was that first year when we were
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: kind of be like, we need a movie, man, we
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: need to move man. He's never going to be very
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: good on the edge. Yeah, we wrong, wrong, He's dude. Man,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: he's been that dude and to be there and he
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: doesn't get a ton of sacks. He's never been that fast.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I think that's what me and Chris were talking about
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: when we were saying that, was like, now we need
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: to get home and get some sacks every once in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: a while. But when it comes to shutting down a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: run play or and not getting blown off the ball
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: that you just don't see him do that. So it's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: that's one of the things that I've really been happy
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: with with what he been down. Looks like it does
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: suck that he's hurt, But the beauty of this d
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: line is that the depth is there at every position.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: So no, You're right, more and more of.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: It and that's what's that's what's gonna be important. It's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: we need to start again. We start getting go ahead,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: start getting young guys reps, see if we can leverage
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: him to get some wins. I love seeing Eli bowing
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: out there at corner. Dude.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: He is a bad dude.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Man, I I'm sorry I was not familiar with your game.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I'm getting tired of seeing can I not get his
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: head around on the football and well.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Not even that, getting getting beat on double moves and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Man, It's like, like I said, from
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: the get go, Jay knows this for sure. I said
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: it a couple of times with me on different shows
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: that we've been on together. Canai is Canai's one is talented,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: but he's definitely frustrating simply because as the game goes on,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: if you go back to that Kansas game last year,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: there was a touchdown on him. If you go back
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: hill to the two lane game, I think one of
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: the touchdowns they scored with him. He gets lazy with
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: his technique. He gets really really lazy with his technique.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Has the physical intangibles to height, the athleticism, all the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: rest of that. But if you under if you know
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: that you're not going to have help on top of you, right,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: if you know that that safety is not going to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: be there, assignment friendly football, whatever the case may be,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: you got to understand, Hey, look, I'm gonna I'm going
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: to be very physical with this guy at the very
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: least get a flag, do something. But you're getting beat
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: and you can beat on on like they're they're gonna
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: be eyeing you. I bet you this main game, they're
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be trying him an awful lot. I bet you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be doing every type of move dancing out there.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: It's gonna look like seven on seven uh in Cali.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Right right we're starting, we were seeing some Jacoby as well.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Jacoby's play corner. He's been out there and they playing
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: with McCary. They need to get his eyes out there too.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't look great against Texas. He hadn't
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: been in the I mean he'd been hurt or in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: the doghouse for whatever thing. You gotta get him in
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and let these guys start playing. Yeah, when you get
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and just start getting these people
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: some experience, start pushing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Forward, keeping them around. If you're keeping them around, you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: do why is Jakobe not getting in there more?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacoby, I think he didn't play a lot of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Thames played six naps in his game and he was decent.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing his jersey go out there. Eli was
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: playing the most.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Eli is a bad dude. Man.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: He's he's tough. He's just tough and scrappy, and he
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: does well when he goes to tackle people. You're gonna
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: have to do it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be in your hip pocket no matter what.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, you gotta go ahead and start playing.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Dave was Daz was good in tackling, but he got
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: cooked on a couple of plays, especially in zone. He
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: kept playing. They kept You could tell that the corners
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: was trying to watch dark and keep him from running.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, no, that's a linebacker's shop.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Drop back in your zone. If you if you see
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a dude running past you, you follow that, follow them,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: and watch out for that little pocket that lane. Kippen
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: is very good at finding. Don't put yourself in a situation.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got to do better when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 1: I think the defense at this point, Maine's not a concern.
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  Speaker 1: Maine is now a game for us to watch to
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  Speaker 1: kind of get an idea of what things look like.
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  Speaker 1: But I think long term, our corner position is gonna
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  Speaker 1: look a lot better. Like again, you know, they brought
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  Speaker 1: in some portal guys. Now we got the young guys
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  Speaker 1: out there, and we gotta start playing them. We gotta play.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: They said, we gotta play McCart he gotta play Jakobe.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, get the young dudes out there. Let them
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: get physical themall. So you'll see Eli, you'll see Peyton.
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  Speaker 1: Those are together. It's gonna be fun. Uh. If Robert
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: is gone, that's gonna suck. I would love him.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's draft eligible, him leaving for that, I.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Don't see him. I think he comes back, but the season.
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  Speaker 1: I means.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thoughts, real though, man, that would be the
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  Speaker 3: week the one that I would worry about the least.
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  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: One question that I have for you, Jay I I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: asked Jason this yesterday, him and Chris Mason with what
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: we've seen from KNY in some of those issues or whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think. I think. I think somebody in
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: the comments yesterday said it, said it great, he's he's great. Well, no,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: they said this about this guy. Would you replace him?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Would you replace put put Woody back over there?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: I think what he can what he can be with
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: guys a lot better than can I can. But he's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: not athletic enough to come down with the ball if
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: it's a fifty to fifty deal.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem with him. Like he had a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: solid game in this one, but yeah, he he fifty fifties,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: he's getting cooked it. But the problem with wo he
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: is he also does not very He does not very
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: good at trailing people on the slot. Like everything that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: you would expect him to be really good at, the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: things that looks good on NFL tape, he has not
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: been good at. Probably I would like yeah, and Jimmy,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like, Canai safety put him up high.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: He does well high and just as as Chris mentioned,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: he kind of breaks down this technique when he gets
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: a little too comfortable. Put him out there at safety.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: I've been saying this a lot too low. Is why
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: not why not have Peyton go play corner as well.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: We've seen him run with guys and get his head
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: turned around, and he's got the speed. I'd rather see
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: him running with guys. We know he can cover. And
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: if you if you realize the best vinibles def they're
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: kind of positionless.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I just thought that was an interesting point. I was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: like a question, maybe you put Woody back at corner,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: let him play something natural, because both are good in
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: medium yardage right fifteen yards down, they're really good, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: they could be locked down. It's just those explosive plays
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: in a perfect world, man. And I think me and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: my uncle we were talking about this yesterday early early
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: morning before the game, and I said, man, I said,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I set up and dream about at night,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: and this is totally left field, But I said, man,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Eli bowing on this side, Gentchy Williams on the other side.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I just want I won't back so bad man man.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I'm good with.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Hopefully his Hopefully he had shoulder surgery again and clean
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: up everything and he's good to go. Because Gentry is
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: prototypical for a day two.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Minimum corner in the NFL.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Dude, he could be day one. He could be day
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: one and his best. So I'm hoping Gentry's back next
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: season healthy. That's the corner that we miss. That's that dude.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: He is that dude when his shoulder doesn't hurt. And
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: when he fell on his shoulder in the first game
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: of the season, I was like, ah, crud, I think
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: he's done because it's literally like immediately he goes and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: falls on the shoulder that got hurt. Dad surgery on.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: It's like God, dogget.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: So hopefully that cleans it up and we're good. But
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna wrap it up, put a bow
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: on it. We'll dive a little bit more into prepping
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: for Maine. We'll talk about position stuff. You know, I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: got videos and stuff coming down the line, and yeah,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about beating bow. We'll talk about the positions,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the players. I got a lot of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: stuff to say on that, but I'm still in the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I don't see a reason of fire beating Bow. We
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: need to. We've got up. We're rebuilding the recruits that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: from a years past. All right, Jason, these people know
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: where he can find you.
• 1:12:12
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• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:20
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• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: morning at Riisenshine College Football. It's at ten to fifteen
• 1:12:28
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• 1:12:34
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• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Chris, people don't want to find you, Hey, Hornsdown podcast YouTube.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Definitely Chris with a underscore K on the Twitter sphere
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: x whatever you guys are calling it now. Definitely come
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: check us out. Hey, thank you guys for thank you
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: j for inviting me man to come on to the show.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Always always love to come on. So for sure. Yeah,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: definitely check us out.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. And and and the last thing on here,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Chester asks if the OC that's hired and they bring
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: their own uh bring their own staff, would you let
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: beaten Boat go personally if he's bringing in recruits to Sure,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: but beating Bot's got a lineup over the last three
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: years that we're ready to see play. They're all young,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: like this is, this would be, yeah, this will be.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: This is Literally most of the ocs wouldn't even want
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: to do it. I don't even think they would think
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't think so. I think most of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: OC is going to bring in probably a wide receiver
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: or a tight end coach with them, or running back coach.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: It's usually the ones. Not a lot of them bring
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: their own their their own offensive line coach. They usually
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: go hire a new one. But yeah, we'll see what
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: they do. We'll see if the new OC does it,
• 1:13:45
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