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Episode one O 9. Yep.
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Last of SAC and City votes. No big headline today, but we'll
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get into that in a minute. Bill, how was your week off this
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week? Oh.
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God, it's another week of trials tribulations for Westchester.
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I'll discuss later on what's possibly going on at the SD and
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C and the reopening of the original Westchester facility,
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which is mind boggling. It, it, it's bad enough to try
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to balance the checkbook when you move these offices to SD and
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CS, but then to move other offices into our former office,
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I, I just, I, I can't, I can't put the numbers together.
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So yeah, we had a good, pretty good week.
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Like I said, I I found out I had bronchitis, so got the steroid
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and the albuterol inhaler and I just found out today I'm not
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supposed to be huffing on the inhaler like I do.
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But you know, I get carried away.
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I had the Grand One's grandson yesterday.
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We turn around and we went and looked at an investment property
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today and that turned into be a fiasco because it was an open
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house and, and people that, you know, because of where it is and
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how much acreage involved, people wanted to see its
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property. And it was like going to the
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circus on the on the first day of the the summer.
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Oh my God. But if the property didn't, you
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know, pan out. So we came home and, you know,
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found out another son's on the way up with the other grandson.
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So they came up, we fed them, and you know, here I am, bright
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eyed, bushy tailed in person, ready to start some shit.
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I bet you, James, how'd your week go?
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Well, it was after getting back from SAC, you know, it was, I
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took Tuesday off as well because I got back in at 1:30 in the
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morning Tuesday morning and drove straight through from
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Atlanta here, a little over 12 hours total with fuel stops and
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food stops and stuff like that and got in at 1:30 in the
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morning. And I'm glad I took Tuesday off
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to recover from the drive and catch up on the sleep a little
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bit. But it was nice to go back into
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work and see my customers again and deliver the mail.
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As much as people talk bad about, you know, how hard it is
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to do this job, I really do enjoy doing this job.
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You know, it's, it's it's hard. It's rough, it's hard on the
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body. But I love that every day is
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different, even though I'm doing the same thing every day.
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And it was pretty good until it started snowing and then it got
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fun. But yeah.
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And like, yeah, Rich just said that it would be great if it
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wasn't for management. But I do have good news on that
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as well. The manager that we had that had
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if he thoughts on how things should be run, moved on from our
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office. Yeah.
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So our office is a level 20 and he moved to a level 22 office,
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bid to a level 22 office. And so we ended up getting
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another temporary postmaster, which turned out to be the
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supervisor that became a postmaster at another office.
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So it's good to have somebody who understands the dynamics and
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was trained under our previous postmaster to come back and work
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with us. So it was a heck of a lot Homer,
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in our office this week than it was the previous few weeks.
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It's that other postmaster, so unfortunately they're still gun
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shy because of that, but I think it's a nice change to appreciate
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somebody who actually has your back again.
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So, you know, you're right, James.
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I mean, I'll guarantee you I, I spent probably a year and a half
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more than I wanted to in the post office because I love my
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customers. I mean, no matter what, you
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know, any day you had in the office, once you get out there
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and see one of your customers, man, it just brightens your
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whole day up, you know, dog coming up, you know, kids
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playing, you know, Hey, Mr. Bill, Mr. Bill, I mean, you
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know, that just makes up for all the crap you put up in the
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morning. And, you know, I, I miss my
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customers dearly. I really do.
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And I know they missed me because I still get texts.
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Oh. You know, so, but that was
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pretty much a standard week for me at the office.
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Oh, let's get into the nitty gritty here.
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I know everybody wants to hear us talk about the city contract
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vote first, but we have to do some housekeeping on last week's
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episode because unfortunately last week's episode came out
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while there was still a day of information left at SAC.
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And so I kind of want to get through that and unfortunately,
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keep Kristen in your thoughts. She is sick, so be sure you say
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a prayer for her and that she heals quickly from her sickness.
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And we'll be back next week. So to go over some things we had
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Monday, we had two people from the United States Postal Service
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management come into the and give us information.
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And the first one was Scott Raymond, an area vice president
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for USPS, and he was talking about North Carolina being the
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biggest rural route state and most significant growth in rural
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carriers and rural routes. Then he talked about the joy and
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how he loves talking with legislators.
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He keeps pushing the our agenda, our narrative.
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He says he's not reactionary, wants to get out front and he
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said there's going to be a lot of mistakes.
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When it doesn't work, we back up and try different things.
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So why are you continuing to push the SNDC's if they're not
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working so? Backing up.
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Since they're not working, why are you continuing to push them
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and create new ones? He said.
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We've always had someone that came up through the ranks
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talking about the postmaster general position.
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It's interesting to see a successful private sector person
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trying to run this company. Knowing our contractual unions,
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all 7 unions, you can't run this place like a private business.
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Pay attention there Mr. President, you can't run this
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place like a private business. Even even in your area.
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VP says you can't Workplace and instability always in a hiring
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mode. He talked about in 1992 it was
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hard to get in unless you are a veteran 5 or 10 point vet got
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moved to the top of the line. Now I don't know of a unit or
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plant that's not hiring. Struggling to deal with the new
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workforce. He talked about having a 27 year
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old daughter who has 3 or 4 W twos in a year.
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Constantly changing jobs. He's trying to teach her to have
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a career. Got to start worrying about
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being 65 and wanting to retire. Totally different mindset out
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there. I don't think it's a totally
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different mindset. I think it's we don't want to
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put up with your BS mindset. You're going to treat us like
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dirt. We're going to go somewhere
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else. You know, people like Bill and
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myself, we have the pride in the in the tasks we're doing to
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stick around and fight for what's right.
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And other individuals have that mindset of I don't like it here,
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I'm going to leave, you know, but he's talking about we need
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the biggest things are better quality of life, better job,
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better pay. As exit interview answers that
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they get quality of life. Yes, when you're working
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12141619 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, you don't have a quality
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of life. Better job.
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You can classify that as hostile management because people don't
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quit jobs, they quit management. Better pay.
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Yeah, I know a carrier told me about an RCA in their office
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that was paid earned $10,000 but paid $11,000 in vehicle repairs
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on a POV office. You know, 70% of post offices
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don't make the cost to run them. That one post office was a
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single business they close. So is that why you're closing
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all these post offices as you're considering them single
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businesses isolated from the entire entity?
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If that was the case, companies like McDonald's would be
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shutting a lot of restaurants down.
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There are restaurants at McDonald's, restaurants that
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they're the only food place in a town that's fast food and they
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don't, they don't actually cover their costs.
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They're a company owned, not a franchise, a company owned
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McDonald's that loses a little bit of money just so they have
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the market share in that little town.
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There's reasons why they're there and the biggest reason
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there is for the people, the people who vote, the people who
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care about the post office, the people who need things shipped
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to them and the only people that will deliver them is the post
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office. Not our fault that you turned
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around and gave these companies a cheap contract to deliver
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their freight for them. He said that some of these post
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offices only do 3-4 or five transactions a day.
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That would include stamp sales and parcels and things like
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that. But the thing about those
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offices is it's not an outgoing office, it's an incoming office.
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It's bringing things in from the city to the rural areas and
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delivering them out. But apparently these guys don't
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understand that concept that all the information comes out to
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rural from the cities, which is where everybody else operates.
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We're the only ones that are going way out in the boondocks
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to deliver. Yeah, but but then again, James,
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you know, in, in my area, we have Thornton Cheney and I I
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believe there's one other that gets serviced by the Glenn Mills
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Carrier Annex. And between the two of them, if
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they have 10 visitors a day, they're lucky because they're
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they're mostly there for PO Boxes.
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But as far as actually generating any sales or
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anything, they're not worth it. But yet yet they have a
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supervisor that overseas those two little RMPOS at 100 and some
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$1000 a year. Yeah, the biggest cost is
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management. Let let me think about that, you
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know, where's your cost at, Yeah.
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Exactly. I mean, I, I had to close them
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so fast that people be sitting there going, huh, what, Your key
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would have still been in the door when when I locked it up on
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you because, you know, like this, it's not worth it.
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And, and then Cheney is the one where Cheney University is,
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which gets their own mail directly.
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OK. So that there's, you know,
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there's no need for a carrier. There's no business there.
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These homes are out on four and five acres.
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You know, they're $1,000,000 plus homes.
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They don't go to the post office.
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And the people who do, you know, like I said, they only go in
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there for the PO Boxes if they, you know, and I know, I know the
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supervisor overlooking both of those offices.
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And they said, you know, it's a waste of money because the
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carrier's going out there to drop the mail off these PO Boxes
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and they can absorb all the PO Boxes at Glenn Mills, keep the
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carriers out in the street from something else instead of, you
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know, wasting their time there. But you know, we're going to do
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St. and CS, that's more profitable.
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Exactly. You know, and him talking about
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that, you know, it got me thinking, you know, if you're
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going to try and be like UPSDHL and FedEx, the only craft that's
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really going to get hurt by that is the royal craft as a whole.
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You know, Speaking of SNDCS, he was talking up Palmetto.
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He wants all, they want all the plants to look exactly the same,
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flow the same, operate the same. He was talking about how the
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machines in the offices in these sort of this distribution
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centers, when a machine would be taken out, they just plop
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another machine in that area, no matter what it was.
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And so you'd have mail going on across both sides of the planet
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going from one spot to this machine back to another spot to
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be sorted here, then over here for that machine and so on and
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so forth. If the UPS and DHL and FedEx,
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etcetera. And the reason why is because
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they wanted to do an increase of 9% and the total cost of a smart
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post parcel select whatever you want to call them and it was
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about two to $3.00 per parcel. And they're saying they can't
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afford that, companies can't afford that.
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So the Postal Service is looking to bring those people in that
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we're using that service into actual delivery through the
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Postal Service. 100% talk about, talked about Nike had how Nike
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had left us for UPS and they're in talks with Nike to get them
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back to the Postal Service trying to get all the returns.
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You know how we would pick up a return and it have a UPS barcode
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on it or something like that. They're going to try and go
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through that. Then he turned over to the
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Hurricanes. They still have 15 offices still
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severely damaged. 2 post offices.
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Mccabeville and Marshall were lost completely.
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One thousand 1911 deliveries effective affected 1000 to 1200
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businesses, the rest of them residential 25 Rd. closures.
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They said 8% of cell towers are still out of Commission and only
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one area, one pay paycheck, was interrupted because of it.
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Then, yeah, we had our regional manager, Derek Strissel, come
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in. Love this guy.
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He actually talks to us like we're human beings.
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Doesn't talk down to us, jokes with us, has a good time.
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That is how these managers should be when dealing with
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carriers, whether it's with any craft employee.
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This is this man should be the guy who teaches everybody how
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you deal with crafts. He talked about people switching
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positions and stuff like that. There's a new chief performance
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officer, a new chief retail and delivery person out of the
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Westchester, NY. Got you there, Bill.
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Westchester, NY area new delivery VP John Morgan out of
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the Arizona New Mexico district. 20% of the processing network
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has already changed. It went over a safety moment and
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they said there are 469 more RC as in SAC districts than there
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were before. And they say 40% of the
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workforce comes from word of mouth, which I can't argue with
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that when they're only posting the the route, the
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advertisements for for three days on the careers website.
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It's kind of hard to get people to apply in when they're only
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there for three days unless they're told that, hey, now you
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know. How many new RC?
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As you said, 400. 459 in the stack area.
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OK, and mostly by the word of mouth.
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Yes, 40%. There's a lot of, there's a lot
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of people that don't like other people recommending them.
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Yeah. Oh, get a job at the post
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office. Yeah.
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I mean, I did the horror stories and I've seen your response in
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regards to some of these people asking POV questions.
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I mean, it's like the horror stories where, oh, the
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supervisor says I have to have APOV in case I'm sent to another
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office. OK, Now I, I don't know about
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anybody else, but if I'm hired at an all government vehicle
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office and you have to tell you, tell me I have to go to APOV
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office. You know what I'm telling you?
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Irregardless of whether I was getting ready to retire or not.
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Yeah. And that's that's the hardest
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part about all this is when I hired in, they told me I didn't
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have to have a POV, but if I had one to deliver parcels in, I
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could make some extra money during the Christmas season and
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tell me I had to have a POV to actually deliver mail.
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And there are a lot of lot of Rcas that got hired in that
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exact same way. Oh, you're going to it all
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government vehicle office, you don't need, don't worry about
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that provision in the contract. You won't need a vehicle.
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You know, and I can understand both sides of it.
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You know, I talk with POV carriers all the time, ones that
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prefer to have their POV on the route, some that got forced into
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a government vehicle and literally tell management, you
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either let me deliver in my POV or I won't make it in that piece
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of trash, garbage can that you're putting me in.
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You know, especially in states where you get a lot of snow and
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you need 4 wheel drive to get down some of these roads.
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You know, should you be going down them if you have to be in
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four wheel drive, maybe not. But they're, they're action for
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the for the their customers outweighs the I got to do it in
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a postal vehicle and they want to get it out to their
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customers, especially, you know, because we deliver the
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medications, we deliver all the documents that they need and
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stuff like that. Important We still deliver
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checks. And checks, yeah, especially I I
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still see Social Security checks in my DPS all the time, you
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know? Yeah, we, we've got regulars at
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our offices still get paid for paychecks.
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I I I don't understand that. Yeah, you know, so, but anyway,
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then after that we had our because of the size of the the
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where the states are for SAT, we actually had to have the
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executive committee men for all the states in those areas.
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Like we had Kirby Ricketts, we had Mike Marola and Bethany
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Small, all there to answer or bring up things and answer
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questions because they have states that are in their regions
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in SAC. And so the biggest, biggest ones
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I want to talk about are some comments that they made.
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Kirby Rick has said most issues are interpretive issues.
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Wait, you mean they're not black and white that we have to
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actually interpret what it actually means?
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And then he says stewards are going to face adversity and not
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get their way, and we want to train for that.
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Yeah, you're going to have those managers that dig their heels in
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and think that their interpretation is the right way
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and your way is the highway. He said currently management
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doesn't have time to run discipline.
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Ed IS and IIS are going up, but management isn't following
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through with discipline. So management is overburdened
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with work so they can't do their job.
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Wow, grievance cases. Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to do
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that to you, Bill. You can't throw that out like
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that, I mean. I had to win.
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I had to you were right there. You I knew you would you would
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totally choke on that one would laugh too hard.
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But he said because of that grievance cases are going down.
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He said that we definitely need a confirmation with rail rod
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optimization, DPM and LTM updates.
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Can't argue with that. You know, I'm sitting there and
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I have somebody who reached out and said they've never mapped to
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this day, and another person say they mapped back over a year ago
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at the last time they mapped, and it hasn't been updated since
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then. Management hasn't even been
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falsifying it. So I'll give that manager credit
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for not falsifying the mapping. I'll give him credit for that,
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but it still needs to be done monthly.
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And then another thing he said. Local management's total
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disregard for our national agreement.
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I almost stood up and said, yeah, you know that's all
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y'all's fault, right? Y'all aren't putting people up
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to fight the contract or telling them to settle at the lowest
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level for the weakest language possible.
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The MOU for regular. Wait me, call me, call me, call
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me. Yes, Bill.
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Oh, oh, you saw me. Well, I don't have the camera
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off when I'm on the other page. I apologize.
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Oh, OK, but so anyway. Yeah, just say something.
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Just speak over the top of me. Well, I was trying to be, you
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know, a little humorous there too.
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You're talking about mapping. OK, here's a funny one for you.
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We have an OIC running all carrier Annex.
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Calls me up and says, are they supposed to do the mapping in
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the morning or in the afternoon after PM casing?
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After I got up off the floor, I said, excuse me?
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I said you're supposed to do it after you return the DODU before
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PM casing. No, no, no, no, they got to do
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it after PM case. No, no, no.
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It it's part of the day's activities.
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But what about doing it in the morning?
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I says, well, you know, some people have gotten around the
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afternoon by doing it with, you know, extraneous load times.
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Problem of it is then you're flagged for your load times
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because it'll take more than 45 minutes between loading and
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trying to do your DPM in the LTM.
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So put it where it should be and do it in the afternoon after you
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return to the DU before you hit PM.
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Casey, Are you sure? I'm positive.
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Mind you, this is a person who used to be a rural carrier for
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22 years. Mind you that this person used
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to be an ad hoc trainer. Now they're in management and
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they're asking questions like that.
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When do you do your your DPM and LTM?
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4 mini mail surveys in and people are still asking
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questions about mapping. Yeah.
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You can't make the shit up. No, you can't.
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And that's that's the biggest problem.
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People don't care to do the mapping when they get into the
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office, when they get back to the office because they want to
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go home. They already worked their butts
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off. They already got all the mail
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out, all the packages out to the surprise of management doing it
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in a decent time frame because they're pushing themselves to
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their limits. And even though it is the
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biggest thing to fund the carrier, they would rather just
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get out of there. Now there's an office near me
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that I know the carriers don't even want to sit down with
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management and do the mapping, don't want to do all that stuff.
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And the manager, I personally, I wouldn't want to map with her
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either, you know, but that's, that's the biggest key is your
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mapping is the most important part of the day.
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Yeah, he might as well hand your paycheck to management.
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Yeah, but that too, you know, I have AI know of a carrier who
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doesn't do the inputs because they're planning on retiring.
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And so they don't do any of the inputs.
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So the carrier that takes it over is going to have to take
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the time to put in all the inputs for over a year, 52 / 52
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weeks. You get a proper evaluation on
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that route because that route's now AJ route and it used to be
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AK route and it has more mail and more packages than my route
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that is AK route. So but anyway, getting back into
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this, they had AQ and a panel after that and answered a lot of
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questions. Editing of scans by local
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management is another one and they're still trying to push
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that and the board is fighting back from that.
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So it's still in the discussion stage with them, but they're
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there is they did turn around and throw people under the bus
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saying that they're still inputting too many box holders
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and things like that. Postal Service wanted at least
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17 days to be able to edit scans. 14 days plus plus three
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more to edit and nothing's finalized.
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But they would be opposed to to allowing them to edit the scans.
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Territorial route adjustment, MOU, a lot of bad information
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from management and other sources and freezing them at
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standard hours but has nothing to do with normal growth.
30:34
If you have growth then it will be added to your route.
30:38
Those who are questioning it on it etcetera is total bullshit.
30:42
Quote from Mast and total bullshit.
30:45
The normal processes will be in place.
30:52
Yeah, he turned around and threw UPS under the bus by talking
30:56
about the cutting of the UPS parcels and how Teamsters put
31:00
out that that all that work was for their craft, but it was the
31:04
Postal Service. They gave it to him.
31:10
Then this is, let's throw this out there because this was the
31:14
very next thing he did. Somebody asked the question
31:18
about the MOU for voluntary assistance being renewed and he
31:25
literally asked the entire audience in the room whether or
31:30
not they should renew the MOU. Not a single hand came up and
31:40
then he turned around and said it's different in every area.
31:44
In Westpac with shortage of leave replacements you will lose
31:48
it or will carriers want the OT. It's a very difficult decision
31:53
for the board to make. The board hasn't discussed it
31:55
yet. It's a very hard decision for
31:58
the southern area. Atlantic and Central you have
32:01
more leave replacements. There are routes right now.
32:04
Hold off this because there's nobody to take it.
32:07
If the regular didn't take it, it wouldn't go for weeks at a
32:10
time. That's exactly how he said it.
32:14
I made sure to type as fast as he was talking.
32:17
And so, Bill, you and I have to go out to Western States because
32:25
this question needs to be asked at Western States of whether
32:28
they wanted it renewed or not like they did in SAC.
32:33
I can see I'm having a problem with this because, you know,
32:37
maybe in some of those states, California, especially Oregon,
32:41
you know, Washington, the cost of living may be a bit higher.
32:46
OK. And I don't know why I got the
32:47
little squares of death on my video, but I do.
32:53
But if you were paying a living wage, then you wouldn't have to
32:56
work so much, would you? You wouldn't have to worry about
33:01
having a second or third job or, or helping out on all the other
33:05
routes because, you know, you, you can't make this month's rent
33:08
or you have to fix your POV. If you were making a decent
33:13
living wage, especially in those states, particularly.
33:18
I mean, the thing, the thing about being a rural carrier is
33:21
most of us don't live in the high cost areas, the urban areas
33:28
where we're more rural, hence the name.
33:32
And therefore we are, we're, you know, we're making a decent
33:35
salary. The Table 2 isn't, you know, no
33:39
matter what part of the country you're in.
33:42
So if you're in California and you're trying to live out there
33:45
and your gas is over $4.00 a gallon every day and they just
33:50
drop the EMA and well, guess what?
33:53
It's $6. I don't know California.
33:56
I'm not going to quote you on that, Mister Trump, but I'm just
34:02
saying the fact that the fact is that, you know, those areas that
34:07
are being serviced. So, you know, it costs a lot to
34:10
live. You know, there's there's parts
34:13
of Washington, Oregon, yeah, and and maybe even Northern
34:16
California. But you know, not many areas out
34:19
there is a cheap to live it at all.
34:22
I was just, I was just talking with somebody about here my
34:26
state, you know, it's, it's the amount that I am paying for my
34:31
house right now monthly is lower than rent in all the surrounding
34:38
counties to me, including my accounting.
34:41
I'm paying less monthly for my house payment, which is actually
34:46
lower than what a house payment for this house would be on
34:48
today's market value. But the fact is, including the
34:55
interest rate insurance and all that other stuff, insurance gone
34:58
up too for homeowners insurance and stuff, you know, but people
35:04
can't afford to live on scrap wages.
35:09
And you can, you can say, yeah, you're making more than somebody
35:13
that works at McDonald's, barely.
35:15
You're making more than somebody on minimum wage.
35:18
Yes, but minimum wage is poverty wages.
35:23
And we're close to poverty in in the Postal Service because
35:26
especially for rural carriers who have to upkeep a car, Table
35:30
2 and Table 4, this doesn't cut it.
35:34
No one barely cuts it for a lot of people.
35:39
We don't want to just live paycheck to paycheck to
35:42
paycheck. We want to have some more money
35:48
so that way we can afford to do things like being able to afford
35:52
vacations to areas where they depend on tourists fund their
35:59
lives, places, you know, going to amusement parks in the
36:04
summer. They can afford to pay the
36:06
people that work there going out and buying fancy clothes, buying
36:13
new car replacement car for your POV, buying food.
36:20
You know how can and on top of that afford kids And then yeah,
36:30
I'm I'm getting there, I'm getting there rich.
36:33
And then you also have the fact that because we don't have the
36:37
hey to attract people to work here, to work as a sub, to cover
36:43
routes, we don't have people that can go to conferences and
36:48
conventions. There have been people who have
36:51
reached out that said I was elected a delegate, but I can't
36:56
get the day off because there are no Subs.
37:02
And they can't get the day off because there's nobody to work
37:05
the route because their supervisors working her out,
37:08
their postmasters working her out because there aren't enough
37:11
Subs. And that is the biggest crime
37:17
owl of all with any of this is that we are not attracting
37:21
people so people can do their union duty.
37:27
And yet on the back end of that, the people who are already in
37:32
the state offices and established are in the NSS or
37:38
those retirees, they can all afford to get the time off and
37:44
they also have the financial wherewithal.
37:48
Aren't you a retiree now? Yes, I am and and and and.
37:56
Have I ever picked up more than my share going these
37:58
conferences? No, not at all.
38:03
No. Yeah, yeah.
38:06
But that that's, that's who I am.
38:08
I mean, you know, you know, you're not seeing any other
38:11
retirees helping out, do you? I'm going to say, you know,
38:14
there are, there are a lot of retirees that do care and do
38:18
listen and do want to help the craft.
38:22
I'm not discrediting anybody that wants to make this craft
38:26
better, but they have they have to think about how do we make
38:34
this better so that the current RCA, new RCA and become retired
38:43
regular carrier. We have to start thinking like
38:46
that. We have to start thinking how do
38:48
we get people to become retired rural letter carriers.
38:53
Let's keep going. Somebody asked if there's going
38:57
to be a publication with guidelines for Rex or something
39:02
similar to the PO6O3. First response never.
39:08
And then he went on to say the PO6O3 may be updated after they
39:14
create a new Rex manual. Obviously the PO6O3 is never
39:19
going to be updated either. Asking about shadow day and this
39:24
was actually answered by Derek Strissel, the postal manager.
39:28
He said there is no fix to make the mattresses a training
39:34
vehicle. Management needs to do their due
39:37
diligence to get a training vehicle with jump seats in them.
39:41
Most of the time management is not prepared and this came from
39:44
a manager need to work with BOMA to get it.
39:49
So the postmaster has to work with BOMA to get a jump seat
39:53
truck. Somebody asked about the 52
40:00
weeks, 12 months or 18 months and John Adams stated after 52
40:05
weeks the next opportunity. So if you were cut, as we had
40:10
said before, after the September mini mail survey.
40:15
You will not get the actual Rex evaluation until April drops.
40:23
You'll do the February March mini mail survey and it'll drop
40:26
in April, but other than that you still have the interim
40:31
adjustments for changes to your route.
40:40
WHS credits. People were asking because it
40:44
was initially part of the training.
40:45
The initial programming was to use the WSS scan for WSH and
40:53
they said some evidence suggests it's included, some evidence
40:56
suggests it doesn't. They're still looking into it,
40:58
trying to find the truth. They still need to improve some
41:02
transparency in in that summit. Shut up, shut up.
41:11
You know, I I can't believe 44 mini mail surveys 12 years in
41:16
the making, we're we're still discussing the fact that
41:19
transparency mandated by the engineers.
41:25
And the arbiter. Topic.
41:26
Yes, it is still a topic, and yet neither our union or the
41:35
city union has been able to gain any transparency from the Postal
41:39
Service. Exactly.
41:43
We're waiting on transparency from the Postal Service and
41:46
we're waiting on transparency from our national board.
41:52
But OK, you know, those those retirees that we we talk about
41:58
and, you know, some good, some bad.
41:59
Same way we got the same people on the state boards, OK, and the
42:03
same people in the NSS, some good, some bad.
42:06
I mean, you look, you hear you. Just like our management, you
42:10
hear horror stories left and right about the NSS, OK, we know
42:15
enough about the national board. But the fact of the matter is,
42:19
until we weed these people out, it's not going to get any
42:23
better. We just lost another ADR for
42:25
failure to perform another one that makes in one year.
42:36
We're getting there. We're getting there.
42:40
You know, we've got to find these bad eggs and they have to
42:43
go. You know, if they're if they're
42:46
choosing ease over righteousness, and I hate to put
42:52
it that way because it sounds like I'm being religious here
42:55
about our union, But if they're not willing to fight for this
43:01
craft, I need to go back to their route because this craft
43:08
should be the first and only thing they fight for as a
43:11
representative of this union. And if they don't fight for this
43:15
craft, they might as well go back to just working the route.
43:19
There are some that are actually have enough time in they can
43:21
just retire and I'd be perfectly happy with that as well.
43:24
But they need to take care of the craft first and foremost.
43:28
The craft is the only thing that matters to them.
43:32
Shouldn't be about. Oh well, we'll just, we'll just
43:35
sign this and have it go away. You know it should be for the
43:41
benefit of the craft, but I still have a few more notes to
43:46
go through. Well, let let me put this PSA
43:49
out there for all the people listening for the national board
43:53
or the national board members or the NSS members, doesn't matter.
43:58
I don't care. You can't touch me.
43:59
Yeah, yeah. The only reason you should
44:03
accept the position in the NSS or on the national board or even
44:08
your state boards, OK, is to be of service to others.
44:13
Not for yourself, not to get your ass off of a route because
44:16
you're too old, too fat, too lazy, or you don't want to carry
44:20
mail anymore. People don't want to carry more
44:22
mail anymore, but by economics, they they have to.
44:28
If you can't put the service into the individuals in your
44:31
craft, get the hell out of your way.
44:34
So somebody who will put the effort in is can step up.
44:38
OK, period. There are people that that we,
44:43
even after we got decertified, have become stewards because of
44:47
this podcast, because of our efforts.
44:51
If the national board put in half that effort, you know we'd
44:54
have stewards in every damn office.
44:57
But the fact of the matter is you are not going to get any
45:00
glory. It's long hours, it's
45:02
unforgiving and and sometimes you get the carriers holding as
45:07
much as the management, you know.
45:09
It's hair pulling. Yes.
45:12
And, and the thing and the thing of it is, is that it's an
45:14
ungrateful job. But is, well, ungrateful as
45:18
what? It gave me a great deal of
45:20
satisfaction every time I walked back with a signed grievance and
45:23
a check in the hand. You know what I mean?
45:26
Yeah, I loved it. But if you're not going to put
45:29
the time and the effort in there, if you're not going to
45:31
defend the guy you hate as much as the guy that you like, then
45:35
don't bother doing it. And the mini rant.
45:44
Yeah, so Speaking of me talking about POV routes on my page,
45:52
shameless plug, James Brennan for NRLCA President.
45:56
One of the things they talked about was getting more
45:59
mattresses manufactured and put on routes.
46:03
And again, that was the. Hold on, James, what was that?
46:06
What was that paid? James what?
46:10
James Brennan for NRLCA president.
46:13
Oh, shameless plug. OK, go.
46:16
Ahead so this was asked about getting more mattresses or
46:21
vehicles for on the routes and so ODNGDV has been plagued with
46:28
problems in manufacturing and getting them to the Postal
46:31
Service. It's only one of the vehicles
46:34
that they're looking at including getting more
46:36
mattresses. They also have a canoe ANOO that
46:42
they are testing. They also have the Olson at the
46:46
Canadian Postal Service purchased that they're testing
46:50
and several other manufacturers that they are working with for
46:53
commercial off the shelf systems and things like that that they
46:58
can put on them. And they even emphasize that
47:01
they are looking to put government vehicles on all rural
47:06
routes. There are some routes I don't
47:09
think they should be putting a government vehicle on and the
47:12
carriers would agree with me with that.
47:14
But it would be nice to be able to say like we when I was in RCA
47:21
and told that I don't need a vehicle that hey, we're going to
47:24
have these vehicles for these RCA's to go do parcel runs and
47:28
run a row routes and stuff like that where they don't have to do
47:32
all the repairs to the vehicles and pay for the gas and stuff
47:35
like that with a minimal EMA that we get.
47:40
Yeah, I believe that when they have a cows flying, yeah, I mean
47:46
they look at the LL VS and the FFVS right now, they can't,
47:49
can't keep up with the repairs on them.
47:53
Yeah. And offices that have 100%
47:56
government vehicles have retained more RC AS.
48:02
Like my office with good management.
48:05
We have about half complement of RC As and it works for them
48:13
because they don't have vehicles that can deliver the mail.
48:16
Hell most most people buy a car nowadays.
48:18
They all have center consoles. You can't have a bench seat in
48:23
the front and stretch your leg over to drive left a left hand
48:25
drive from the right seat anymore.
48:28
But. Minivan.
48:32
Yeah, Minivan, I mean, and then you got managers who are telling
48:37
them that they have to have a vehicle to carry the adequate
48:40
amount of parcels that they get on their route.
48:44
And some of these routes I've seen, you are going to get those
48:48
in a minivan, a full size van, you're going to need a cargo
48:52
truck. Yeah, 131 cubic feet is an LLV.
48:57
So if your vehicle has over 131 cubic feet of cargo capacity,
49:02
you could argue that if you had a government vehicle, you would
49:07
be doing second trips as well. Yeah.
49:11
And the problem with the the POV requirements is it still states
49:16
that you have to be able to hold the mail as says nothing about
49:20
the parcels in there yet they haven't changed their language.
49:24
And on top of that, in several other documents that I included
49:29
in my POV post on my page is one that is specifically says
49:34
oversized parcels. And so I'm sitting there
49:37
thinking about it and this is my opinion, my opinion only.
49:41
It does not reflect the views, opinions, or strategies of the
49:43
United States Postal Service, the National Carriers
49:45
Association, or anybody else on this podcast.
49:49
Is that if I could fit 100 standard parcels that could fit
49:54
in the mailbox in that vehicle, but I can't fit the 10 boxes of
49:59
Amazon dog food, Do I really need to get a bigger vehicle?
50:03
If I could fit 203 hundred parcels into this car without
50:07
the giant boxes from Amazon, would I really need a bigger
50:11
vehicle? Oh, you just need a bigger back
50:15
end. Need a Cadillac truck and.
50:21
Your truck too. Yeah, need a need a Cadillac
50:24
with the trunk that could fit 3 dead bodies.
50:27
Oh yeah, or that postal hearse. That postal hearse, yes.
50:32
Yes, I love that he he only delivers dead mail.
50:40
Yeah, they did talk about getting another regional Rep
50:49
because we still only have three in the union.
50:54
The Pars label I did get confirmation it is all ours
51:00
labels. Whatever is printed by
51:02
management, every single one of those should be counted for your
51:05
Par's credit for 52 weeks. And why do we have to fight over
51:12
that? Because management couldn't get
51:17
the technology of the PAR system to talk to the REC system until
51:22
just now. At least that's what he said.
51:32
Stewards can be mapping facilitators.
51:37
Yes. That was a question that came
51:40
up. Yes, stewards can be mapping
51:44
facilitators. I know of several that are, but
51:47
apparently it had to be clarified that stewards can be
51:49
mapping facilitators. And another thing that came up
51:59
is there was a comment made that Academy instructors are pushing
52:06
people to city clerk, janitorial, etcetera.
52:10
And they said instructors should be proud to be rural, they
52:15
should show positive towards Postal Service in the rural
52:18
craft and if they aren't, the Dr. could be notified.
52:24
So that was the last question that I had that they took.
52:30
Let's see here. Yeah.
52:40
So yeah, they're probably missing data from the last 51
52:45
weeks. All right, let's let's go into a
52:50
big topic now, Bill, since we're already almost an hour into
52:54
this. So it has come to the attention
53:00
of this podcast as well as everybody else on social media
53:04
that follows this stuff that the city carrier union, and I say
53:09
the union itself overwhelmingly Oded down the tentative
53:17
agreement that was negotiated between Brian Renfro and the
53:21
United States Postal Service. The number that they voted it
53:28
down was approximately 70 to 30. And the number of people that
53:38
vote did was almost 100,080 letter carriers out of 230,000
53:51
city letter carriers total. That includes dues paying and
53:56
none. And so if you really think about
54:00
it, approximately 50% or more of the voting craft voted down
54:10
their contract, their tentative agreement.
54:14
The last vote that they had two years ago for their elections
54:20
had a 15% return rate of the voting public.
54:25
Of the voting membership, 15% voted for their officers where
54:32
over 50% voted down this contract.
54:35
Now, I'm only saying that, but you have to remember it could be
54:40
a possibility that some did not get their ballots and some of
54:44
the ballots did not make it to the PO Box they had to go to.
54:48
But just remember, yes, active members, the people that can
54:53
vote are only full. Who's paying members in good
54:58
standing. It can't be associates, people
55:07
that just are members to have their insurance.
55:10
Retirees can't vote on it, things like that.
55:15
Ceased carriers can't vote on it.
55:18
The ceased carriers can't vote on it, retired carriers can't
55:21
vote on it, and people who are not active city letter carriers
55:26
cannot vote on it. Because remember, just like
55:30
ours, we have our, we have an associate level that people can
55:34
pay into so that they can get the royal carrier benefit plan.
55:38
The city carriers have the same thing on theirs.
55:41
And no, retired carriers cannot vote on our our tentative
55:45
agreements. They can only vote at our
55:47
National Convention. Now that, that speaks volumes,
55:52
James, that you had such a large turn out to vote on a tentative
55:58
agreement versus who you're electing to represent you, I
56:04
guess. I guess those numbers will turn
56:07
around with the next election for the NLAC, won't they?
56:11
Yeah, you know, and, and hopefully this, this, this is an
56:16
eye opener for Brian Renfro. No, for Brian Renfro first.
56:22
Well. It'll be an eye opener for our
56:24
craft too, in what regards that our body can actually
56:29
accomplish. What?
56:31
Anybody. Can accomplish.
56:33
Yes, and you know, you got to think now they have 15 days to
56:39
come up with a new tentative agreement or go to arbitration.
56:44
Now we do know about the Tulino letter and the Tulino letter
56:50
saying that they are hopeful to go to arbitration because the
56:58
National Board of the City Letter Carriers is going to work
57:01
with them. Now, you have to remember these
57:04
Tulino letters, whether they call them fake or not, most
57:10
often are accurate. We had the Teleno letter back
57:15
when they implemented Rex, and then he came out with yeah, City
57:29
said. City said the letter was fake.
57:31
But you have to think, every Teleno letter that's come out,
57:35
they've either called fake or said it was premature.
57:39
You know, when our contract came out, our union said that he was
57:42
premature so. At that problem.
57:53
You got that problem. I said I've had that problem.
57:57
Yeah, get it, Get it. Joke, joke, joke.
58:01
Joke, joke, joke, joke. It's a little slow.
58:04
There, this is one that is for the record books.
58:13
This is only the second time, this 1970 that the city craft
58:20
has actually voted down a contract.
58:27
Yes. And there was the leak about the
58:28
city contract before it became ATA, and Brian Renfro called
58:32
that a fake too. Yeah.
58:37
And so here's here's what Mastin Renfro, if anybody else in these
58:46
contract negotiations need to understand, the working people
58:52
of this country are tired of being treated like garbage.
58:57
To be walked on by any manager in any company, whether it is
59:04
the city carriers, whether it's UPS, whether it is FedEx,
59:09
whether it is Costco, McDonald's, Starbucks, any of
59:13
those people are tired and want to be treated with dignity,
59:18
fairness and respect. And if they're not treated with
59:21
that and they're going to go somewhere else and they have
59:25
been going somewhere else, you know, I do not condone a strike.
59:32
But when you don't have enough people to do the job because
59:37
they're constantly quitting and you have people who have been in
59:40
this job for 2730 years who are quitting this job or labor
59:49
elsewhere because they're tired of dealing with you.
59:53
They're tired of dealing with the garbage that you put out.
59:56
They're tired of dealing with the disrespect that happens in
1:00:00
these offices. And this contract being voted
1:00:04
down by the city carriers is a statement to every single union
1:00:13
official across this organization.
1:00:18
Fight for your craft, fight for your people.
1:00:22
And if you're not willing to step down and let somebody in,
1:00:26
who will? Amen and personally James, I'd
1:00:33
have gone another two years until my wife hit 62 if it
1:00:37
wasn't for, you know, the toxic atmosphere at the SDNC.
1:00:43
And the driving full day full days pay every week for your to
1:00:47
your routing back. Yeah.
1:00:49
I mean, you know, the you know, the fact of the matter is that I
1:00:53
love my job, but I knew that, you know, I was at my limit
1:00:58
dealing with those individuals in regards a how they treated
1:01:03
our craft. And, you know, it got in my face
1:01:05
one too many times. And you know, I knew the next
1:01:09
time it happened, I was going to go off.
1:01:10
And I do you know, that wasn't the best way to, you know, end
1:01:13
my career at the post office is that it had been been in, you
1:01:17
know, you know, solitary lockdown or in the middle of
1:01:20
hospital. But the, the fact of the matter
1:01:23
is that, you know, I didn't want to put, I didn't need to put
1:01:28
myself through that, that that's the, the end game of it.
1:01:32
I didn't have to put myself through, I didn't need the
1:01:34
money. You know, I, I, I have more than
1:01:37
enough money. I didn't need time or anything.
1:01:39
And yet I felt like I betrayed my customers when I left.
1:01:45
That's the worst feeling in the world, that you feel like you
1:01:47
betrayed your customers by leaving.
1:01:48
Yeah. I mean, you know, I know
1:01:52
whatever carriers taking over my route was not going to treat my
1:01:55
customers the way they should be treated.
1:01:57
You know, one of them got, you know, a little extra treatment,
1:02:01
but you know, she, she was homebound and, and had, you
1:02:04
know, 24 hour care. I miss all the kids.
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I miss the dogs. I, I, I, I miss, you know, the
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people would sit there and argue that word.
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We can't say because of the Hatch Act.
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But the the, the fact of the matter is, you know, I love
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being out on my route and, and despite me being the asshole
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that I am, most of my customers love me.
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Yeah, you know, and that's The thing is we are a customer
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service agency. We are here to take care of the
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American people. Every single American in this
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country is our consumer. Every single person in this
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country is our customer. And every single person in this
1:02:53
country, we are the face of the Postal Service, rural and city.
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And it's time for management to recognize again, which is in
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their manuals, that the letter carriers are the most important
1:03:11
people in the Postal Service. It says it right in the M38.
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It says it right in the POM. It says it in the M39 and the
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M41. The carriers are the most
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important people because we are the people who interact with the
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general public. The clerks interact with them at
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the counter. We interact with them at their
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own home. We know where they live.
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Yes, we do you know you're taking the bill may line there,
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but. Yeah, I'll let you.
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But it is one of those things that management needs to
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recognize that if they want this organization to continue, they
1:04:01
don't need to beef up 150,000 new managers.
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They need to beef up 150,000 more carriers.
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They need to get more people delivering the mail, not just
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cutting people off by putting them into S&D CS and cutting the
1:04:19
workforce by moving everybody into these centralized
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locations, which is the main reason they're doing that.
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They're cutting out clerk hours at the offices.
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That's the biggest thing they're doing is cutting clerk hours.
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And guess what? The clerks go back and become a
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mail handler or something like that or take an early retirement
1:04:35
because they're drawing them all into these SMD CS.
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And when they finally realize that it's a problem, they won't
1:04:40
have any clerks in these offices to do the the sorting of mail
1:04:44
anymore because they'll all have moved on to other things.
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So, and sometimes, yes, we are the only ones that see what's
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going on. We know when somebody's not
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picked up their mail in a couple of days.
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Yeah. We know when people haven't,
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when people aren't. We're on vacation and somebody
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is breaking into their home. We see it.
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Yeah. We help our customers if they
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fall down on the ice out here in the winter time, we help them
1:05:13
back to their feet. But this city contract vote, I,
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I applaud them. That took a lot of gut because
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there was both sides fighting over it, both sides arguing one
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way and the other. A lot of people just wanting
1:05:35
that big payday of the back paycheck, stuff like that.
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But I'm glad they held all and voted the way they thought and.
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I thought it was funny the way Renfro turned around and held
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that money plus the cost of living and correlated that into
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an 18% raise. Cost of living is not a raise.
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But talk about postal math. I mean, Jesus.
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And getting back to your comment about the SD and CS, I'm going
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to bring out everybody up to speed in my situation for
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Westchester, which was moved to the Wayne SD and C.
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Now they took eighteen rule routes and they took 68 city
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routes and moved it up to the STC.
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After fire, they had the rule carrier sign a letter of
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retreat, which means that if they reopen the Westchester
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facility, the rule craft has the right to retreat back to that
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office. They did not give that same
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letter to 68 city carriers. Now this is this is where it
1:06:45
gets fun. There is a Exton, Malvern and
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Downingtown post offices which are all been advised they may be
1:06:56
moved to the Westchester office once it's reopened.
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And I'm sitting there going, OK, he's going to take 18 roll
1:07:08
routes back to the SDC and then back to Westchester, the SDC,
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and leave 68 city routes up there who still have to drive
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back to Westchester. So are you saving more money or
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less money by moving the rural routes?
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Well, that's an easy one. Now you're going to take three
1:07:27
other post offices, move them to Westchester, make them drive all
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the way back to their respective routes.
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And that's saving money. Where?
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Where? Yeah, and.
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It's the SNDC bug that got into management.
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You know, and James, you said that they would they would stop
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and back up if they saw it wasn't working.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this shit isn't working.
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They turned around and not only did they figure out it wasn't
1:08:04
working, they turned around, took the gas can and went
1:08:06
pouring all over it. Just.
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Put some gas on top of that. Yeah, yeah.
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Make it burn hotter, you know? I I mean.
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Like you said, it's like the Titanic.
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You have the iceberg hit the thing and then now you now after
1:08:19
the icebergs hit it, you got a guy going down there cutting a
1:08:21
larger hole. I mean, yeah, I when when I
1:08:26
heard this and and and I heard this from the city carrier in
1:08:29
Malvern and, you know, they were revised of this, you know,
1:08:32
situation and they were just looking at us like, well, hold
1:08:37
it. The Paoli mail comes into
1:08:39
Malvern, it's sorted. And then they had to take a two
1:08:43
ton truck up to Paoli. Well, what are you going to do
1:08:48
now? Because there's not going to be
1:08:51
a Malvern to take the mail to Paoli and you can't put up a
1:08:54
tractor trailer in the Paoli. You can barely get a straight
1:08:57
truck in there. That's why they're using the two
1:08:59
ton. What the fuck's wrong with you,
1:09:06
that is? Something that is something that
1:09:09
needs to be put out in the public, that needs to be put out
1:09:13
to the legislators, that needs to be put out to the postal
1:09:16
Board of Governors, because the only people that can stop this
1:09:19
from happening is the Postal Board of Governors.
1:09:24
The legislators can turn around and say, no, you have these
1:09:27
buildings, you need to use them for their purpose because the
1:09:31
legislature is the only people who can put in post offices and
1:09:38
close post offices. Why do you think the Postmaster
1:09:44
general can't sell property? Because it's an act of Congress
1:09:51
to sell that property. Literally.
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And Nancy Pelosi's husband holds the only contract to sell postal
1:10:02
property. Yeah, We don't own a lot of
1:10:07
them. We lease them.
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That's the only way we get around that.
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And a lot of those are just, some of them are just
1:10:13
storefronts too. You know, over here in
1:10:16
Waterford, they have a storefront and then they have
1:10:19
the Waterford Annex that has Waterford and White Lake inside
1:10:23
of it. But the storefronts like three,
1:10:27
3 1/2 miles away from the annex, there's no post office close by
1:10:32
to where the mail carriers come out of.
1:10:33
So a mail carrier has to go from the annex to that facility to
1:10:37
drop off the mail, and then at night go there, pick up the
1:10:40
outgoing mail and bring it back to the annex.
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Unless it's the outside of 50 miles, then they don't have to
1:10:47
do it. Only three miles.
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It's not from the SDC. Waterford is right next to
1:10:54
Pontiac, where the SNDC would be.
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OK, Just, you know, for a vacation, you know, if it's
1:11:01
outside 50 miles, it ain't getting it.
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Yeah, my, well in my area alone we are close enough to all the
1:11:09
all the facilities to be within 50 miles.
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But Kristen, if they don't have an SNDC by Kristen, yeah, her
1:11:15
mail would probably be shut down for the for the night run, you
1:11:19
know, and that's another that's that's a topic for a whole
1:11:22
another episode. But I think this episode's
1:11:27
getting kind of long anyway. So what are your final thoughts,
1:11:32
Bill? Well, kudos to the city carriers
1:11:37
for, you know, participating in their contract votes and
1:11:40
rejecting it. You know, I, I guess the amount
1:11:45
of information between Corey and fed up, I mean, you know, that
1:11:49
they, they've all been out there pounding, pounding the streets
1:11:52
with this information and, you know, basically blowing up the
1:11:55
misinformation that, you know, Renfro has presented.
1:11:59
But, you know, hats off to them. And this, this is also a lesson
1:12:02
for us to know that this is exactly what we're going to get
1:12:06
when it comes to us. We're going to get the same damn
1:12:09
crap contract offered to us and we're going to go through the
1:12:12
same damn process. So not me, I because I can't
1:12:17
vote on the contract, But the fact of the matter is that it's
1:12:20
going to fall in your laps. And God knows, you know, we, we
1:12:24
have no idea when, when the, the TA may be offered to us.
1:12:29
And that that's just, you know, one of those things where who
1:12:34
cares about the back pay, you know, get rid of Table 2, get
1:12:38
rid of Table 4, get rid of the hostile, you know, work
1:12:41
environment and, and provide real transparency that that's
1:12:45
all I want. Am I asking for too much?
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Oh, you're totally asking for the world.
1:12:52
You know, shoot, you know, shoot for the stars and you know, you
1:12:55
know, settle for the moon. But you know, the fact of the
1:12:57
matter is that what is that what we're entitled to?
1:13:00
That's what we deserve. You still have you still have
1:13:04
winter here, folks. You know, we got some weather
1:13:07
moving in here right now with some sleet and snow.
1:13:10
So, you know, be mindful out there on the roads tomorrow.
1:13:13
Be safe, be careful. Your job with the way you know
1:13:17
how to do it, do it safely, professionally, effectively.
1:13:21
And I always tell you, you're the most important delivery of
1:13:24
the day. Get home to your loved ones
1:13:27
because they they matter. When it comes to the post office
1:13:31
you don't, but to your family you matter.
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OK, God bless James Last words. I agree with you.
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You know, the city carriers told management and their national
1:13:42
board, well, I should say Brian Renfro because he was the only
1:13:45
one negotiating, according to the national board of the NALC,
1:13:48
that we're worth more than what you think we're worth.
1:13:54
We're worth more than just numbers on a spreadsheet.
1:13:58
We're people and they showed management and the union that
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we're all in this together and that's what we need to do too.
1:14:12
If you are not receiving a national magazine, your address
1:14:17
may be wrong with the national board.
1:14:21
If you want to be able to vote on this contract, first you have
1:14:24
to be a dues paying member of the union, but then you also
1:14:28
have to have an accurate address for them to send you the ballot.
1:14:32
So make sure your address is correct.
1:14:35
If you're not getting your national magazine, contact your
1:14:39
state secretary. Your state secretary is your
1:14:42
point of contact for changing your address or any other
1:14:45
pertinent information for the union.
1:14:48
So make sure you get your correct information in there.
1:14:52
We want carriers first, whether it's the city carriers, whether
1:14:56
it's the rural carriers we want, we want the rural carriers first
1:15:00
in our contract. We want carriers first, nothing
1:15:05
second. Take care of your craft and your
1:15:09
craft will take care of you. Don't take care of your craft.
1:15:13
You might as well start packing your bags because the craft is
1:15:16
coming for you. And I will say that with the
1:15:21
resounding turn out of this vote for this tentative agreement,
1:15:26
Brian Renfro's on his last leg as president of the NALC, he has
1:15:32
an uphill battle to win re election the next time it comes
1:15:38
out because these people recognize exactly what he's
1:15:41
doing. And this is the message to our
1:15:45
president, Don Mastin. Pay attention because the people
1:15:51
here are speaking. The city carriers have already
1:15:55
shown you the same mindset your rural craft has.
1:16:00
And if you don't get us a tentative agreement that puts
1:16:04
carriers first, takes care of us, puts more protections to
1:16:09
give carriers treatment from dignity, fairness and respect,
1:16:14
and you put out some garbage like Renfro did.
1:16:18
You're on your last legs too. We're coming for you because
1:16:23
we're all in this together. Thank you, everybody for tuning
1:16:29
in and listening to us. Hopefully Kristen will be back
1:16:31
next week. Have a good it will.
1:16:36
Yeah, get well. Kristen, we're we're behind you
1:16:39
on this. Keep us updated and everybody
1:16:43
have a good week and we'll see you next week.