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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
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Listen to him on radio three topic. How about, my friends, very
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but very good afternoon, that we are starting a new glubal construction with you,
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with everything that leaves the season, we will no longer make originals say
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or a temporary. In Buenos Aires there are seven hundred evacuees, material damage
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and delays in the desperate opresen cava in search of a teenager who saw him,
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took him to the stream and jucsé Colonel Suárez. In the evening,
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the captain of Crona, madam, bowled a piece, not in posterity or
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so a balcony and died. The truth is it does fix you, no,
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but it' s time to focus on that it' s with the
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blue to one thousand thirty, with one of the news in ten that tomorrow
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is going to strengthen the newspapers be little. The government proposed to the judge
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son which figures for my law will be every luxury sand man This will be
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every Comiley light that God Good himself. The judge the profuse said. He
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proposed to the son judge to join the Court with Professor García Mancis to fill
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two seats in the Court. The second is going to happen with the early
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population of Juan Carlos Marques Comes and some other title already screwed the floods the
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final mark. I always want everything right for my law how much it costs
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at almost magazine level and say to buy the same ten products in Spain and
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the United States, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Peru. And good and
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temporary, John will be sad. Today he took us to partner, friend
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Gonzalo Horas, Juan fann Zan Lorenzo will be sad. They suspended the match
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of three to Lorenzo or Cruz for the League for the temporary. Obviously,
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so well, well, speaking of Juan, we have him online by a
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Julio Burman who is waiting for us in July, one of the characters of
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the week of July. Good afternoon, how are you doing, how are
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you doing, how are you doing, well, very well. Well if
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you were already famous for those of us in the world of politics, the
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academic world and so on, having been retweeted unusually. If you want for
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the President as one thinks that the President usually retweets, although many times you
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are wrong, but well, characters from the centre right or right furibunda.
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I liked that right is not not what I know. I don' t
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know that I love them right, but I don' t think I want
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to be left either. I don' t know, I' d have
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to be a strainer. It' s a kind of blacksmith. It had
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the center on the right or extreme right. It' s not jmaita.
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I' m sure not, but good. Yeah. The point is that
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it was a half- unusual discussion for me because I got twittered on issues
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of Argentine or eventually international politics, and I just changed a tweet about Mirtar
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Grande, the PMN cinema, which had a lot of viralization. No yes,
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what happens in the precipitate also has a good way. It' s
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all good day. What is criticized, but has an unclear theme, is
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which teenager does not pick up the title and retweets today. I hope it
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' s a New wyl note If I' m not mistaken about another foreign
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medium, I think it' s not. I remember being destroyed today and
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highlighting some things of his management, but he just puts out a Holonia title,
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hello. Well, well, see I don' t know if the
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problem with the Julio activity. It' s powerful there. Well, I
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didn' t tell you there that the President is your tea tweeting other than
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the time you spend as a teenager. Sometimes he stays alone in the title
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and sometimes they are negative connotation notes for himself. But he, as he
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does not dig deeper and on many subjects it is so, not so shallow.
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That is not the case with the management of the networks as well.
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I highlighted it in a number, I do not give it to you,
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but in the group of bases that I have this one that recently, for
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example, he mentioned highlighted a report of an economic consultation and I did not
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open the report. Then the consultant said that you put many reservations down from
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inflation, to the maintenance of super habeis, et cetera, et cetera,
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et cetera. It had happened before also with some other note, from some
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other foreign medium. He gets the title, let' s say, but,
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yeah, there I don' t know a bit about the details of
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how that works, if it' s really just a team. I think
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he certainly participates, because I don' t know if it' s exclusively
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him who can all of him. That reason I know and of course because
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apart above all, there were episodes that are contaglifaros. I think there is
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a kind of query here that follows Milay' s heartbeat, because there have
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been five hundred days, for example, no, which also makes me think
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that this is a special Twitter account, because well, we see that he
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has. Anyway, instead, with him or mach not because I don'
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t know if it' s any account. If you in your story or
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I find myself, we can retweet him sometimes five hundred times an hour.
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If you don' t break our bill. No or the truth or I
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never did. I couldn' t say that clearly. Nor do I rule
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out that I have an account. Well, it' s true that he
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has the blue crises, maybe the suru may not have more capacity, but
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he makes a very intense use of the account. If you, don'
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t add up in that sense, those who criticize what they tell him that
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this one used to be repossessor Macrie, this is a Twitter tamer or x
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tamer that' s more. On that side, I' ve spent too
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much time, what explains what he does when he eats breakfast how many dozen,
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when he' s flying. No, I think you profile piles and
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percent different. The other screen ate that I had the feeling that he really
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believed me, did little work here in my law. Looks like he'
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s not sleeping. I didn' t, no, I don' t
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think, and apart from anything, it always felt like it. I don
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' t know, I don' t want to prejudge, but that he
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was a person with an excessive amount of hobby, he liked football the ones
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found. Yeah, like he' s a very scattered person that you were
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in the public. My reading seems to have a very low level of hobby,
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not like on the contrary, yes, but don' t see him.
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I say I' m a milline critic No, as I was before
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Álvareto Fernández, Cristiano Fernández, Maza, mascrip But I say and I'
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m very critical myself, but in management we don' t see it,
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that is, you see it at the foot of the canyon. When we
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look at the issue of fiscal superabe, inflation, I do not say that
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it is something entirely. I even think there are many areas of or has
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to see. But on the other hand, you don' t have meetings,
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you don' t travel. They were all part of strategy, too.
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But it doesn' t look like he' s a guy who'
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s at the bottom of the canyon in terms of activity and you' re
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granulating over there. But in terms of activity itself it is in the fifth
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obliga and one leaves almost there travels to receive prizes to the United States,
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all the cousins that offer it the Presidents grabs them all and will now look
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for it for traveling for the fourth time I abandon your obstran is the match
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completely. It is a different style, totally Kirser reader, which is the
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prisoner feels that one imagines himself as the one who was most in detail and
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what happened in every distribution in this one one imagines us Kirse, but soon
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yes, too much no, because it is also so finished, no yes,
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too much, yes as it is. But besides, I imagine that
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leaving as if even the last official had controlled a secretary up there, that
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he knew them and monitored him on the way to the selection that he was
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only engaged in economics and not much more. I think he' s revealed
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by these sodas. I hear you go and hear so many things. I
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don' t see all the reports that make Millay apart are as they are,
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sucked in stockings in general the nation more. But I say I think
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that just at this hour he just said something like that he has direct or
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very regular contact with three or four ministers in Acapucaputo to Burri, but veil
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and there are some. Well, in agriculture it' s said that I
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think the Secretary didn' t even know him in the squad some of them
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as if he didn' t. I mean, he' s got a
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lot of contact with three or four, well, he' s all right,
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and he' s all right, and he' s talking about his
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sister, but then they don' t get him out there, you play
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with others, they have almost no contact. I' m not saying I
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don' t know him. I don' t want to be overreacted,
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but almost secretaries or even talk. Yes, I am that there are many
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areas of government. I think it' s safe. He can have a
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lot of contact. Omo un ritch, perhaps or not, but I don
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' t think he gets into anything that he does bullriche in the ministry and
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I imagine there are many ministries that he should have no impact on what happens.
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I don' t know if in this defense, in or after what
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they do the insurance they do now and they have a few beyond this twitter
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of mer such winmas. He' s got an obsession some people have with
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culture. Let' s say that it represents them, it plays them,
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it tells you with the alexpositos, it lost the media discussion, not of
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networks, but it has to make an obsession with the subject of culture.
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Link something, Mong, etcetera, etcetera. Well, the astra thing,
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I think it' s going somewhere else, but the gario thing later,
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yeah, which seems more emblematic to me, because it looks a lot like
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it, and this we' ve talked about some other time about what Trump
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has done with Taylor Swects or I don' t know if there' s
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another good one in another order. Also Playmir put had many conflicts with some
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artists that he considered as center left and criticized them. I don' t
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know if it was the week. In that case she was clearly dissidents of
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a closed system like the different Russian cre. No yes, but it was
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also I would not say that the two or three pot bands that were against
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Putin in Russia had an issue, say, philosophical, political, with the
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Russian regime. It seems to me like a computin subject, not like it
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was something more personal and that Puti was also confronted with those bands at the
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level of himself. It seems comparable perhaps and it seems to me that there
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is a certain fact that a good idea is that and that the most conservative
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Presidents face it. I think he' s almost shutting down a place with
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a lot of cartoons. No Julio, because sometimes I lose you a little
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bit. There, no, no, I' m not going near a
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window. Maybe good, well, give it, thank you and what with
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that beyond your tribune, let' s say win, for example, President,
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with the frentament with the aleposito won something or spoke to your twenty thirty
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super legibles and nothing else. Let' s just say see if I'
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m guided by this mini case that I' ve been indirectly involved in.
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The truth is that I could see how much of the media people are dominated
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by these things that there is looking at their turn or I looked at and
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put the media to discuss. It' s a very effective agenda management.
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Because he does it with interpose people and somehow, then everyone gets to comment
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on what he does. And it' s very important for contemporary presidents to
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influence media people, because if anything happened, I' m getting a little
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bit into tumete, but if anything happened in contemporary media it' s just
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that governments lost influence. Not if no Channel nine newscast from the 1980s,
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well it was commenting that he made Hiso Alfonsín. It was like the most
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important thing on the news was to see what the President did. But now,
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if the President can' t get into the middle million people, he
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gets to do anything. So, I think my law found there a way
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to influence Cristina, for example, had no way of saying, that is,
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it influenced only by doing livia in quotation marks, but she couldn'
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t get some media to argue many days making a Cristina alive when confronted,
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etcetera. Yes, national chains and so on, but well, Cristina was
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just putting in national chains to get the media now of what she wanted.
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I didn' t know how to get in. There' s a whole
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thing going around. This isn' t about the politicians you' re talking
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about I' ve told my law again about these recent reports that yes,
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that allows me to have direct contact with people. Let' s see.
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I am not going to be a defender of my profession in this production that
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I so love and so corrupted is. But that' s eliminating middleman.
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Sure for a politician it' s a treat, because, yeah, well,
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my law of interview gives all the projects of the stick, as in
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general do most of the presidents. But I say that, eliminating middleman is
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to avoid critical journalism, to journalism that can ask you question and answer.
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Not this I don' t democratize and talk to people, who he doesn
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' t talk to either. He tweets, retweets and doesn' t start
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to talk to almost anyone. Let' s not agree. Yeah, it
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' s a little more farce. Not that I' m in direct contact
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with people. Go to contact, or people, you avoided the hard question
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and, on the other hand, you don' t talk to people.
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You communicate, but don' t talk. I also hope it is not
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true that he bridge of journalism, because he is also resting a lot in
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his interviews with the newspapers of them more. No yeah, well, yeah,
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organ taste yeah, yeah good? Yes, this was supposed to open
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the direct contact via social networks. It was Obama, but he didn'
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t actually give any interviews. It was like some kind of Jock, but
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we lost American, because he didn' t give any interviews throughout his term.
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He thought maybe he gave one and apart from a little, he offers
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prisoner. So Obama began to do that by direct contact, because he spoke
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both on Twitter and for his public acts. We' re not going.
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I had regained the idea of public events and it' s statements and the
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media plus what Luis in a trin Now my law is not doing that.
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Hasi Obama looks there is really going to the press, so it' s
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a little, a little, a little good. The conferences companies, except
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in the case of the mornings of López Obrador' s amlo in Mexico.
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They are still disused except for the spokespeople, as Adorne does, asÚtimo
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Mono Dorne is doing in almost every day. They' re going to set
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up a little agenda, but it' s not the presidents' turn,
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it' s the spokesman or a minister or something. It' s not
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stylized anymore. The President will hold continuous press conferences. Unfortunately, I was
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here in the world a little bit. No, but well, well that
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in America started with Obama. Two are followed before. Well, yeah,
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it' s not positive. This isn' t right now or it'
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s going any more. It was two thousand eight that coincided with the inauguration
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of social networks. Of course, that year was for the convert, Facebook,
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etcetera. Then twin der Ay nine, two thousand nine. Well,
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you have a political consultant. You have moderately recent numbers on the management of
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my law, Miley' s figure, et cetera, et cetera. No,
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yeah, I got something. It gives me a measure that my law
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has a positive image of forty- eight percent and the rest is distributed between
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regular and negative, and that government approval is below and so is forty-
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two, forty- three. I mean, the personal figure of my law
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is better than its usual sweeps. Not the leader or character always has more
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than his government. At least it' s not the usual. It'
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s the usual thing, but it may be different. But this time there
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' s a small gap. Well, he' s got bullets coming in.
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There are two annals. I do it with a lot of people,
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even militants on one side and the other. You have like two anals to
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say, but in the middle of this adjustment, this guy keeps about fifty
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forty- eight or fifty and one is going to learn from the positive image
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or the other, that is, well, it' s okay, but
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just assumed it hasn' t been much advanced, et cetera, et cetera,
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et cetera. Let' s say, we' re my little timers,
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but it' s but it' s lost little, but it'
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s lost since it' s assumed popularity or support. No yes, because
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if you get a little bit off, cancel that number, forty- eight
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left that there are almost no voters of more than a second round who are
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today like a milay image, but that eight bars nine of those who voted
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for it continue to bank it, let' s say in the barotan no,
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which coincides with the first part of what you said in your question or
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in your comment. I think it' s very meritorious of level that the
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frame and adjust you so tremendously retains in the preference of almost all of your
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banatal voters. I think t shows that he' s being very successful in
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getting people to understand what he' s doing and to blame what the famous
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inheritance might not have been and that it was public opinion that everything that'
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s going on in the supermarket is Gray' s fault. But, well,
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why did I or didn' t fail him to macre, but it
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didn' t hit him because it happened, because it also failed more.
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I believe this emergent, which is my law, that they are a social
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emergent. I do not say why these luxuries can be given to speak,
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to have no political correctness, rather on the contrary and to capitalize on it
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in part or in half society. Why didn' t this happen with wine
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maxis in some form of gradualism. Why, because it just happened Mactriz failed
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and Alberto Franz failed. Why do we understand it' s you Miley didn
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' t happen eight or four or so years ago. Well, I don
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' t think there' s any comparable case, because all the presidents that
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I remember their first three, four months and more also had high image,
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so I don' t know about honey. What happens is general good,
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forgiveness in general. When they assume, they' re said to go up
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that wasn' t the case. Practically from my law is kept to high
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levels, but it has not gone up that usually it happens clearly half fit
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you, impossible to go up, but it has to be found. I
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have a difference with some colleagues, that goes up a lot. I haven
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' t been in much, no, no, much, no, but
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I say and compare I don' t have all the numbers. It compares
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the first three four months of popularity. Besides, Cr Alberto de Cristina and
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they were up to a little bit higher than today from my law beyond.
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Of course, they weren' t making these chainsaws and he' s doing
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it to him, but I' m saying in the first three four months
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with that spum that raises the greater popularity that my law has today it installs
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forty- eight n personal. I have also registered it with several presidents.
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What never happened to me, it never happens to me that suddenly they publish
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that the president has seventy percent. I' ve never been given any top
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president five percent don' t take place with the pandemic, because neither sorry
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nor Alberto in the pandemic no, no, no, of that I never
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saw him on the boat since he had reached fifty- eight in the pandemic.
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But okay, those rep numbers seventy eighty percent that have ever appeared before
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I never rescheduled it. Okay. But good, but it has fallen,
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that is, what we do has fallen a little bit, how much it
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has fallen five or six points in three months and it is you fifty-
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seven out of forty- eight. Yeah, you know life and it'
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s not much. That is why we have said that, because it depends
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on my side. Look at the adjustment frame. One someone could say nothing
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more and others I can say and no, but, well, you know
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little or I go for that and nothing else, because no President made the
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adjustment that made nor did any President law. Well, I already make two
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big ones, but pas del ulde didn' t have all the numbers.
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So, this thing that made my law. For me it is very meritorious,
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but I am analyzing it in the air because I have no other comparable
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case to my law. And why people support everything we talked about before the
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election of the political system, the failure of Mapri as well, and as
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options. Well antikinerimony, why people still banking despite the hard. Let'
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s just say it hits us. That' s all the framework of interpretation,
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because, for example, I also have some number of questions where the
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vast majority of people when you ask who' s paying for the adjustment the
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caste people, the vast majority are the people, that is even the argument
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of that of my law that they' re paying. A lot of people
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are kind of upset with the fact that they' re suffering the adjustment and
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a lot of people, most of them in every thirty, that' s
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so worse than before. Therefore, it is not true that people are not
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aware of what is happening to them, but a few who are optimistic,
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have hope. I don' t know I don' t dare get in
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there, but what I can say. But no, no, but I
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' m sorry. But if someone is making me suffer, how can we
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say no, but that gets into the interpretation of why people are supporting my
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law. I think I can go down with the question and he' s
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already supporting it because it' s good to be in the first part question
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or analyst. I mean, you know, people aren' t masochistic.
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Say a little. I say most of it will be some others because they
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are antiperonists. Serrime, they don' t care. I tell you in
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general because they see they think there' s going to be light at the
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end of the tunnel, which is what I think is going to fail.
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But, well, we' ll talk about it, too. But I
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say if not what interpretation you give him. I' m suffering from what
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I know, but I can' t but pose, that' s because
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I can' t answer that again. The name of my numbers. My
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number comes to us to interpret why people answer what they answer. Yeah,
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I can tell you what answers that forty- eight percent and you have more
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tax on Miguel. Now why they still have it. There will be a
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million reasons and my answer to that is that my law is getting that you
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don' t get it by skill because your speech, because public opinion has
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been crushed, because people want to believe, because there is hope. Well,
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there are several implications to number, but what I can tell you is
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what the number is and it' s enough for him. So, in
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this forty- eight to have gone to society in two let' s say.
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For me it is a miracle, because if all people lost income that
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even in that context people have the good image of the President. I think
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it' s almost the key fact, but it' s not political.
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Besides, and I support the future, you can notice that the fall is
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slow, but steady, yes, or to see. We need to talk
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in three months to find out what' s going on. No yes,
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of course, for now it seems to me that I, for example,
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have heard some colleague say that, with this level of inflation, in March
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of my law is collapsed and it is not happening. In other words,
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there were many referents to qualify what they thought was going to fall into the
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third consecutive minislation. And yet, there' s something he' s handling.
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Well, milay that well, he' s trying to see this plane,
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because then we see that he can' t pass the law, that
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he' s rejected, etcetera. But good thing he wasn' t popular.
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I' m not saying to see this is the weakness, because I
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can' t do a small plebiscite with the one he threatened in the campaign.
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They threatened some time during all the months of management, and obviously,
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he doesn' t throw a plebiscite for denue and me, because he runs
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a good risk of losing it. To see the virtue of I' m
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talking perhaps more about myself than I should, but virtue I want to hear
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you Miley' s virtue is the candi that opposite is the opposition destroyed,
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devastated, thrown away of life. Now, when I' m going to
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river mouth, do yes or no yes, I run a risk of losing.
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Let' s say if it was a plegito for the dereu to say
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for something good that he has popularity and that there is no other equivalent national
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leadership, because it is the only one has popularity. The rest of you
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are all busy. That certainly is an asset, certainly clear and part of
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it to great good, in the opposition it will regenerate how they see the
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movements that if you are looking to settle there more is quiet, but will
23:18
try to judge good. Cristina, we know you have an important role,
23:22
but I think you don' t give it anymore. No. I believe
23:27
that the opposition is not yet in a led gender position. I mean to
23:33
unite on the part, still good and there was the historical experience does show
23:37
and it costs them a lot Any general opposition leadership immediately after an electoral break
23:44
it is time to stay home for a while in Argentine presidentialism. This is
23:45
not how we have a parliamentarism. Well, yeah, maybe thanks to the
23:51
main character in Congress, a figure like Picheto suddenly started to sound, but,
23:55
well, I think that was a part of my initial lives. I
24:00
don' t think that this primaverite of Pichetto, for example, is sustainable
24:08
in the long term, but good. I' m also mistaken today the
24:11
truth is good. I have a question there, for example, of which
24:15
are the main leaders of Peronism. And Picheto doesn' t come out the
24:17
third after he exists, not before before after Cristina Xilo, but it seems
24:22
to me that it' s kind of episodic in the month of March of
24:26
February, where Pichet appeared in the media as the only positor, the only
24:30
one and the political people won in the Cristina government. If you pick them
24:37
up it gives you or it also gives you and Moreno appears also small at
24:41
the end. But of course it' s people who wear the good ones,
24:45
Cristina and Quisilofi and more are memories. Maybe he oxidized good is the
24:49
only one out there, but good. I think Picheto, Moreno, etcetera.
24:53
Yaryora that appears are also linked episodes, since they appear precisely in the
25:00
public discussion, conjuncturally, but I think it is not yet missing for everything.
25:06
He also appears as a figure who is recognized as a positor virgin,
25:14
but well, I think he' s still in diapers. That not what
25:15
can be done was to the extent that there is a crisis of sandstone in
25:19
law. But for now there' s not much room for an opponent.
25:26
I think it' s too early for all that. Let us remember what
25:29
was the first years in which we read, the first years of Macris,
25:32
there was no room for other leadership. It wasn' t presidential after one.
25:34
He can compare even partly to the alfonsinazo, after eighty- three,
25:38
which the awards called the strikes. In some way, it was fixed until
25:42
it was regenerated and took a long time not clear, because it goes to
25:48
the presidential party and the presidential puts it to the President in the center and
25:53
there is no institutional space for another leader. I stand out the one that
25:55
gives you the platform of the media, but there is no equivalent figure chief
26:00
of the position, as for parliamentarism, where a leader of the opposition is
26:03
quickly elected who appears as we are talking here in ural construction with the Politolo
26:11
of Julio Guzmán. Suppose Miley' s experience is failed. I don'
26:15
t know if he' s leaving, but he' s leaving first.
26:17
If he left before, he' d probably grab a villain, he wouldn
26:21
' t scare a pimp or fantasy in some of them I say, but
26:22
I say what. It' s a difficult question and I don' t
26:26
want to stop you in depth or your habitation in rigor. But what would
26:29
come a centrism, as some mark, a kind of government of national unity
26:34
not so quisnerist, but I say hyperonistic part of radicalism. I don'
26:40
t know if it' s part of the network, I mean, what
26:44
could happen on the stage if this radiating, right- to- right-
26:48
to- hard experience fails. Well, it' s a question of how
26:52
to imagine, not because it' s not good, but rigorously. Yeah,
26:56
I' m not asking you for anything with rigor, either. I
27:00
believe that the key cat of politics in two thousand twenty- four is Millay,
27:03
therefore, and my law I believe is someone who changes everything, that
27:07
is, for example, what you said about eccentricism, etcetera. Sounds to
27:11
me like after my law, in a sort of regression to politics as it
27:15
was before, I don' t think so. I think my law is
27:18
a water part and that what comes after my law, imagining the future,
27:23
is going to be something different from what we also knew about Miley' s
27:27
anti. So, I think that' s why I also find it very
27:34
unproductive to speculate with these leaderships and Cristina Macri as they' re going to
27:40
be that I, I think they' re all going to be replaced,
27:44
because the change that involves my law is something that my lyrics here, even
27:48
Milesi goes there today. Yeah say, nice number that was. But if
27:49
Milay continues and insists on Argentine politics, he continues to open new paths and
27:55
I think the future is going to be very different from the past. So,
27:57
that' s why, all of a sudden, a Nachito Torres,
28:02
who no one knew him all of a sudden can play a leading role,
28:07
because I think there are conditions for everything to be renewed. No. Yeah,
28:11
yeah, it could be for a centroperonist córdobasism. Being cries where you
28:17
can seem kind of obvious. He gave me the chance to give you another
28:21
story Look. I have spoken many times and I have spoken on your program
28:26
that I do not believe at all, in regional leadership. Yes, it
28:30
seems to me that precisely the Cordoba cannot leave Córdoba, because at least he
28:33
calls it corro we say. So, yes, I believe that the whole
28:40
21st century, no regional leadership could jump into national politics, that the last
28:44
can Carlos Medem and the schir thing was already inclusive in a chance and raised
28:48
from playing Santa cruzeno in which it came to power. So, I think
28:52
it' s Cristina, which was Kirsher' s continuation wasn' t Patagonia.
28:57
I believe that regional leadership has failed as a producer of national politics.
29:04
So emailing won' t convince me as an alternative to the future. He
29:08
doesn' t even present it good is that I' ll make it so
29:11
bad. He didn' t get seven points, but well it' s
29:12
not a roof. And this model has economic model floors that some of us
29:19
say would be if it came out more or less. It would be good
29:23
for few perhaps eventually low inflation if it did, but at the expense of
29:27
activity and employment, of production sales. You think Argentina could stabilize at a
29:34
much poorer country level, let' s say even more Latin Americanized and so
29:38
go ahead mile And that, that' s the Argentine that has middle class,
29:42
supports it, the bank. Such a stable model, but much poorer.
29:47
Let' s say many more restrictions. What a question. I think
29:52
because you tend to believe that you don' t, although the truth is
29:56
that javen in the middle class. There is a lot of Argentine that is
30:00
top so of class and I stop being. No, but, well,
30:03
whenever you want to pass, when you realize it, it wouldn' t
30:06
be a good question. I also think that if this experience in my law
30:11
is just adjustment and there are no economic reforms that promote investment, well,
30:18
it would be like a town gravel, like a fall of scale all in
30:22
Argentina, like I was traveling in business class and it happens to have the
30:26
economic class permente you shrinked. Let' s say adjustment without growth is that.
30:34
So, let' s hope that after the adjustment comes the growth,
30:38
the investment, that the economy smells, because if not, you actually believe
30:44
that this model can lead to it virtuously. My law believes that. No,
30:52
that' s very clear. There' s no doubt about that.
30:52
I' ve already asked Julio Borman. You' re not going to be
30:59
okay, Miline I hope I have a look, because let' s say
31:03
make such a collective effort. But there' s an argument between me.
31:07
Says who said it recorded. I don' t think I like it.
31:10
Gravos, but I say what happens. I say I don' t want
31:12
my law to go well. I' m a country, I' m
31:15
an enemy. I' m because if I don' t like this model,
31:19
I didn' t like the previous model to a great extent either.
31:21
But I' m saying it' s worse. What do you have to
31:23
say why do we have to be? I say it not as an open
31:26
diffusion among friends, I say why we have to say good, but I
31:30
hope it comes out and if it comes out, it will leave a society
31:33
for little and little worse. I mean, why. For a simple reason,
31:37
there is no other model of sight. When the other model appears,
31:41
we can talk if I like this model or the other, but the previous
31:45
one is no longer useful. No, no Terrhoea' s not good enough.
31:48
There is no model of growth saves and that Miley proposes, that is,
31:53
if propropo you who says that Argentina. But I don' t know
32:00
for putting a man Martin Lustote is going to say there' s another model.
32:04
I say later we say radicals there. Then I don' t wear
32:07
anything else, but I' m determined polo and humor. No, I
32:09
don' t. I' d say there' s another model that for
32:10
me is old, well, but for now those are proposals that have no
32:16
expression in reality. I mean, I can say model Julio Burma. But
32:20
that' s not who I am, not until I don' t,
32:23
until we see that the model my law fails. No, obviously, they
32:25
won' t look at you, they won' t look at him in
32:27
mourning. The bet on Lus Do was just that. Not that if this
32:30
fails, I think it won' t come to the President a pity,
32:32
but I say what you look at him if this model fails. But obviously,
32:36
the bet is once I fail. But that I say believing is the
32:40
only model or considering that today is the only model is not a bit accurate
32:44
I ask. It' s an overstatement, no, because I repeat an
32:50
excuse. There' s an idea of one person and another thing. If
32:52
there' s a political actor, a model, what do you think of
32:57
yourself, if you don' t want to, if you want to rethink
32:59
the radicals. Find yourself. The us had everything against the law of the
33:01
radical decree, because they killed the newspapers, killed the governors, who need
33:07
money. But the radical militancy is more in touch with the governors. Or
33:14
I don' t know what to do with that radical, and I just
33:17
don' t know what to do with radical militancy. I don' t
33:20
see radical militants as a very relevant actor. Yeah, I think radicalisms in
33:23
the radical committee every town hasn' t yet. But one thing I just
33:29
look at the election results, that is, the governors, the other minds,
33:32
I mean, I don' t see how radical committees in the capital
33:37
' s neighborhood are a very important social force. I don' t want
33:42
to offend radical nism with this, but I don' t see there a
33:45
relevant political actor in radical militancy. I do see that, for example,
33:49
he' s pullaro, he' s dancing in currents. There I do
33:54
see real existing radicalism and that radicalism here with mourning. Therefore, it is
33:59
no use where the ideas of the luctor become a subject. Now if,
34:02
suddenly in you are candidate you have thirty- five percent voting pension, you
34:06
start to gather a social mass, critical, etcetera. There, yes,
34:12
we talked about there being a lus to with an idea now while already simply
34:15
an individual and learned that I believe to see. I believe that the idea
34:19
is that the issue may be later if society is permeated once it fails my
34:21
law. I repeat, I' m a skeptic that you get very high
34:24
or higher, but actually, first of all, there' s the idea.
34:27
Then people follow him. People won' t be able to go on
34:30
after failed experiments if they' re also doing a bucket experiment. No,
34:31
no, this one I agree with, but I eat for this then I
34:35
give him the idea once he sees critical mass, possibility of concretion, that
34:38
is, if not. I can also tell you it' s an idea
34:40
where he has the pipe, but we already know that the gene doesn'
34:44
t get anywhere. Okay, well, and I think Lustor is a melcano
34:46
today, today Moreno is a decale. They' re all the pipe is
34:50
today. Maybe, Cristina you can say with her thirty- three- page
34:52
paper that you get an idea. There we are, we have something to
34:55
discuss and it' s something new. Now not my thing, for example,
34:59
that today and that is an alternative Miguel, that Christine threw his pe
35:04
for three thousand pages to say Look, there' s Miley, there'
35:07
s this too. Maybe there, I can save a little bit. Now
35:10
what happens is Cristina no longer has credibility to reinstall something an alternative model.
35:16
I think that Cristina today is the only person, the only voice that has
35:21
appeared since Miley penguliente said different, but I agree with you and I'
35:25
m a person who says good, but the quarter of an hour has gone
35:30
a bit. But good. In the meantime, there is a vacuum not
35:32
and that is why I say I look at it because there is no other
35:36
equivalent thing. But that void is going to be filled. Let' s
35:40
say yes, it certainly does. Thank you We always see. I think
35:46
this is Julio Burman, the Politon of Julio Burman, here in plural construction.
35:50
The anecdote, for at least astounded at the beginning, was quick,
35:52
because I have spared it all, even things outside the context or that end
35:58
up disfavoring them. This has happened to me with one gets to work a
36:00
bit and see that he retweets capable things, that a title rhymes that one
36:04
goes inside. It happened recently I put it in my whatsapp group with an
36:07
economic report. I don' t remember what time low inflation was and I
36:10
said or said it was quite questioning the economic future. The term low inflation
36:15
and maintaining fiscal twin surpluses, etcetera, etcetera. Primary and prosecutor, et
36:21
cetera, et cetera. And so too with some other note. There'
36:24
s a note today in a foreign medium. Okay, okay. In July,
36:29
when it was Mertal Eran and Gomon, the Woman cinema said well,
36:31
why don' t you buy it mirata joy in pride. He didn'
36:35
t do it critically or as a dwelling place, but good. My law
36:37
is fast. Pom retweeted him and Julio took on more fame. In fact,
36:40
Clain summoned him. Last night. I' m going in the afternoon
36:43
to publish in another opinion to clarify your position a little. Julio Burman is
36:46
not a right- wing guy at all. There was no kind of progressism
36:50
of the center- left conculty. But, well, I understand and I
36:53
respect Millay' s leadership, like he' s obviously not favoring it well,
36:58
we' re not going to pause. After that we have to be
37:00
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blog com The temperature continues to see in you free Dollar luxury a quiet.
38:04
I think that even circuses weigh two thousand thirty Rinco country also keeps going down.
38:07
All grown up in love with Milay, as with Mene and others are
38:10
like Martinez God. That' s the way it is. A thousand and
38:15
five hundred nine, I tell you the news of the day for tomorrow'
38:17
s newspapers, looking a little old, as I said about Cristino Fernández,
38:23
as they already speak of the written press that is already read as nothing.
38:27
The Government proposed, but the most rigorous. On the other hand, in
38:30
some cases the judge son and professor García Mancilla proposed to integrate the supreme contribution
38:34
of justice. I' m going to have some other means quickened. I
38:43
have to like it already I think not yes good to see review clarín and
38:45
I go with gustavo anunso oficial. The government proposed to Judge Lijo and the
38:49
jurist Manuel García Mancicia appeals cow before the Court. As I say, one
38:52
is there and the other one is a bacchanteta and the other is a model.
38:54
He turns seventy- five and Juguila in December. The other place is
39:00
also weird, because they don' t cover the subject of women, because
39:04
the son sees it very difficult, especially by the controversial name. The son
39:07
questioned judge pulls him up and down. In due course, I' d
39:10
be working at the place the judge left. Haito trained them with a woman.
39:14
We don' t even have a woman. We would have Milay'
39:17
s project in the Tormento Court ago in Buenos Aires, launched a red alert
39:22
in both by rain foundations above the hundred kilometers. The corruption office asked Attorney
39:25
Barra not to intervene in any case linked to Cristina Fernández and so we go
39:30
the key data of the first dose that the government chooses to ignore dengue vaccine.
39:35
It says well, I don' t have a line to Gustavo.
39:37
Now we have Gustavo good evening, how he is doing, how you are
39:39
walking very good afternoon just the greeting well, eight Barban heard you don'
39:46
t always tell him about the weather is mistreating them. Not while I'
39:53
m hot. Not usual are the differences of good chan. It' s
39:59
okay. Okay. We passed some water. After that there are issues here.
40:02
We passed the coronavirus in another situation. But to the Den, now
40:06
that we' re in a record situation, there' s that guy in
40:10
this village who doesn' t see, or there' s gonna be another
40:12
look. I' ll tell you. I' ll tell you a story.
40:15
I say the first time in my gypsy life around the world. My
40:22
first I had malaria when I was fourteen, we lived in Nicaragua. My
40:25
father was present for eleven days and one day, at three o' clock
40:30
in the afternoon at school, I start shaking cold. Not good. I
40:36
thought it had been, I don' t know a chill, etcetera,
40:38
etcetera. I go back to my perfect home, in the morning I wake
40:43
up, I go back to school at 3: 00 p m the same
40:49
and I remember that on the third day not this someone tells my mother,
40:54
says it must be malaria. It' s the time of year and indeed,
40:57
you start looking for me and I had like a hard mosquito spade in
41:00
my armpit. Not good. That was good the treatment that really the topic
41:08
is through in that case, of a medicine based on aquinine that makes you
41:14
lower the fever is not contagious, because the only contagious form is that the
41:19
mosquito that bites you has the fortune that bites him or the bad fortune that
41:23
it stings someone else. That' s the source of contagion. Years passed
41:30
and different from activity that reached the frog. Something like that happens to me,
41:45
and the deng hits my denge, no, they' re not moving
41:52
you, bro, you' re not, you' re not seeing malaria
41:58
and malaria, the typical one. We were in the middle of someone else
42:00
you don' t listen to me well, oh no or it informs me
42:05
it connects me and I listen to you, you listen to me. Yeah,
42:07
yeah, perfect, perfect. The connection informs me oddly that the bandwidth
42:09
of the iPhone three network, which is that of the iPhone, is very
42:13
low. But I don' t know what I know, some scene about
42:15
the iPhone. It' s yours, not mine. But, yeah,
42:17
yeah, give it good. And then I remind you that I have a
42:24
surgical procedure in Argentina year eighty- three and suddenly I was in the room
42:30
say and a doctor comes and says look I just passed by the guard.
42:36
I saw his medical history and he tells me and I read that you had
42:40
dengue. Tell me a little bit about that. I' m talking to
42:45
you eighty- three. Well, I told her how you had gone to
42:50
my symptoms. Bla BLA? BLA? BLA? BLA? And it tells
42:52
me why the hospital is sending me to Brazil to study that disease. Yes,
43:00
I' m talking to you, done, that is, it was
43:04
practically unknown in the Argentine Republic, at least in the area of the capital.
43:07
Not like that, well, and as the years went by he began
43:12
to listen. Dengue. Denge Denge? Dene? Denge? Dengue. Logically,
43:15
climate change influences mud, which is a distinctly tropical period disease, concentration,
43:22
also mosquito and above all good. For example, here in Cozumel.
43:36
Be the health secretary or as you want, the health unit spends all the
43:42
time fumigating on a caps with a spraying machine and they go through the houses
43:50
and ask you well, you live alone, you don' t live alone,
43:53
and they throw you like dust of a disinfectant. That' s today.
44:02
I was still leaving today until today. I' ll tell you what
44:06
in time. Now that summer is coming and spring begins. For you start
44:09
autumn. Then they start protecting that and with very strong awareness campaigns. Like
44:17
saying, don' t let water on you. If you wash our clothes,
44:22
those things try to make sure there' s no trace of it.
44:28
Don' t take care of all this, for example, sometimes overflowing with
44:35
water. When they throw rubbers. You saw that on the inside of the
44:37
car wheels water always gathers in front of a rain. Well, there are
44:44
ongoing prevention campaigns. That doesn' t mean I don' t cure you,
44:51
but there' s a very strong awareness on the part. Let'
44:54
s say citizenship and the authorities that we have to go out and fight.
45:00
And curiously, this is happening today in our country. Not then, this
45:07
is the analysis. And on climate change, diseases that were previously totally unknown
45:19
in our environment have also begun to sprout. Not well, the ideology of
45:29
as many as little truncheon sounded my law, it' s just going to
45:34
find climate change, not or minimize it. Hey, hey, yeah,
45:39
exactly good. I' m going to tell you if you want to get
45:44
into the subject of parandula and cholorism if it' s not agreed. A
45:46
few years ago, this girl, artist, etcetera, pampita died a daughter
45:54
here in says good that girl, which they didn' t know to diagnose,
46:01
because the first thing they did will be you maron and maybe I'
46:12
m not saying they would have consulted regional. She had hemorrhagic. It'
46:15
s directly the second stage. No, which is a much stronger dengue that
46:17
attacks you directly goes straight into the blood and attacks your brain. That hemorrhagic
46:23
deng is very typical, especially in children. It attacks children a lot because
46:30
of the lack of defenses, not to her, always to this day,
46:37
or to say at the time. I remember saying it was a virus that
46:42
attacked him, it wasn' t a clearly hemorrhagic dengen. No, and
46:46
repeat yourself from these tropical areas again. Then we would have to think whether
46:55
in our vade mecum or even we have to now include tropical diseases as parts.
47:04
Let' s say yes to tomatology of typical diseases at the time of
47:12
the year. No, but, well, I don' t know about
47:17
that anymore. Perhaps the country also has in what because it trembles, viembla.
47:23
And well, because one of the symptoms of dengue is curious is it
47:29
gives you a lot of fever, very high faith and cold tempers. There
47:35
may be 60 degrees of heat. Well, you' re shaking and tinting
47:45
with cold Napoli and unfortunately, well. Now, yes, there is a
47:49
vaccine. No, there' s the argument. Here' s where the
47:52
vaccines are and how long you' re taking, and this campaign has already
47:54
happened. Well, yeah, let' s wait. I' m on
47:59
the property and I' m telling you. One thing is, he can
48:02
come back to you without you being bitten by Tromosquito himself, yeah, I
48:08
remember. I' m telling you again, I' m sorry I'
48:13
m entertaining you when I tell you, for the first time I got the
48:17
malaria dengue or the cousin brother in Nicaragua. Well they did the healing,
48:20
I got it down, etcetera. Three days. It doesn' t leave
48:24
you very weak, but let' s say the cycle is no more than
48:30
three days and I remember there was one in Nicaragua at that time. I
48:35
' m talking' 70s. Whoever was in charge or had studied tropical diseases
48:45
was a doctor of faith or Baptist religion, a branch of the evangelists.
48:52
They did not have a hospital and had sent curiously to the United States,
48:57
a specialist. Nothing more than the preparation of tropical malaria diseases. So,
49:01
when I' m done, let' s say we' re going through
49:05
the cycle. I remember this doctor. For fifteen days I went every morning
49:09
to the Baptist hospital and they gave me a pill wrapped in a biblical psalm
49:15
that was the possibility that I would not be repeated in those fifteen days the
49:22
virus or good not the religiosity of skin flower in Mexico. Of course,
49:29
yes, yes, no honor, but he asked how you felt about the
49:32
debate that took place in three. Well, apart from the fiscal rebellion that
49:37
called part in the province of Buenos Aires by high tax hike by Xixilo in
49:39
function of good, lack of funds, send out the sharing by Nation.
49:47
The President read me in support of the fact that it was done well and
49:52
well and that, if not well, I mind going out on the cross
49:55
saying that almost a President is out of the law. How you saw the
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debate about the intended one. I think it' s a round- trip
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debate, because, on the one hand, it' s also a federal
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country. And one of the things the President says we' re a federal
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country. Take charge then, then, in the case of psychiló good to
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take charge is good. I government and province take or raise taxes. No,
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I mean, it' s part of that federalism. Evidently, it
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is also a rebellion. I think what Espérez said more is not this Cargles
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about taxes, about one sector what you' re dilapidating about other sectors.
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When we see today programs I don' t know how many millions of sex
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lubricants or wooden penises are programs that were also provincial. Then going to see
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you' re going to leave all that in the air, that' s
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the check that hasn' t been done. From really where the expense goes
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then in the absence of possibility to do those revisions and it is much easier
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directly to say good increase. But I think they are the great and determined
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chapters of politics in our country. I mean, I, at seventy years
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old, am still listed as a student on the electoral roll, telling me
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when the electoral roll has been reviewed. Never, no, then how much
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has really been revised games that are lost, that benefit certain sectors and that
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not even by an ideological question, by the inertia itself, has been left
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then in this process of cleansing or purification. Let' s call it whatever
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you want. I think you' re desperate to invite him to see before
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you put them up, I got or check out what you' re doing
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and where you' re getting that money. Obviously, there is a lot
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of political chicanería, etcetera, etcetera, but neither we, if we are
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seeing it, not only in the province of Buenos Aires, but also in
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the interior, let us say the adjustment that is being requested and comes from
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and I am witness, since the time of the adjustments. Let' s
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say that they generate the fall of Fernando de la Rúa, that is,
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the one you made the nation, the provinces didn' t do it,
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let alone the municipalities. So, if the law is a good couple,
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let' s all try to focus and clarify the situations that the just do.
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Thus and in these problems they are not ideological, obviously, yes,
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of course, if we do not return to the same thing at that time,
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at the time of the wheel, you had to have an mayor earn
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more than the President of the Republic. So federalism. We do it for
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good, or we do it for bad. So I think, you know,
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political Chicanas are always gonna be on the order of the day, but,
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you know, what he' s saying. Gentlemen, I mean,
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don' t be afraid just because of the tax bill, but also demand
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the lord, in this case, Governor of the provinces. See, he
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' s starting to adjust the things that are left over. I mean,
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I' ll take thirty forty. I don' t know what the percentage
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is my tax, but I' m not going to use the gel lubricant,
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spend 500 million pesos a set. So, let' s see,
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that was also a little part of the Chicanas. Let' s not say,
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because that' s where the spokesman is putting the weird plans good.
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That' s why I could say exactly, that' s good to see
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We live at the crazy party. Okay. Now let' s begin to
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suffer the excesses. I' d say sorry and with due respect, we
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' re not going through the abstinence attacks It' s me I' ve
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liked the tender attacks, the attacks on those who are drugged when the art
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is accurate, let' s say our drug, which was the expense,
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where it came from, no matter where I got it to satisfy my vices.
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I didn' t care and now they cut them off. And all
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these things are withdrawal attacks that can happen to anyone. Let' s just
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say he' s trying to recover. It' s a good image and
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you could give it to the presidents. I don' t know if I
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share it that' s not important, but it' s a good one.
55:37
It is an illustrative magic to put in a tweet gus and capable that
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you do not know who challenges you. No, well too, and thank
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you, but I thought about it and I' m saying it like that,
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no, but it depends on you I reiterate as always with total sincerity.
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I don' t know if I think I don' t share too
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much, but as an ayagua, it' s a call, the phrase
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for your reasoning, of your thinking is a jazgo. I liked it,
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though they don' t share part of it, but I liked it.
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It was good and yes, yes, yes, yes. That' s
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the thing is j good, yes or no. Yeah. There are no
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three four pns left. The issue is how much society you think is going
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to accompany this to see the company understanding half of the society or what was
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little less that there will be light at the end of the tunnel. Not
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because, well, that' s what still exists so far. I would
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not like, colleagues and friends, to analyze more the reality of the numbers
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as a Carlitos fada my mo jaime no or germano do analyze to see.
56:50
What I see from a distance and what I see and read from the information
56:57
is that the honeymoon is still so long. No, I mean, there
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' s a road, no, obviously, there' s holes everywhere.
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The issue is and I think we talked about it the week past the President
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' s priority today. The priority is to appoint officials, because I read
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out there also not how a government can be that fifty percent of the officials
57:23
have not yet been appointed. To see it has been saved for three months,
57:29
is that amount of salary, so to speak not this or of responsibilities,
57:35
etcetera. It' s the priority, so I' d like a
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secretary today. I don' t know about any subject. If today what
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I need is to control, let' s say the numbers. Aya was
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reading him that he said if I have fifteen billion already cut the stocks tomorrow.
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No, I mean, they' re accomplishing, they' re pedaling
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obsession, and the other thing is controlling the street. We' ve already
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seen the tankers. Years ago, we' ve seen each other. I
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think since the time of the wheel the tantas throwing water. I remember my
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time of students in Spain was still the last stage of Franco passed the tanks
58:17
that had colored water. Then, the next day you had it you couldn
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' t take it off and you still had a strand of colored hair left.
58:28
You were tangentes, I was sucking you, they weren' t taking
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your food, etcetera. No, but to see the flag of Brazil says
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order and progress. What he' s trying to do today. That is
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why progress in ordering the economy and order. There are groups that have had
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a very strong participation, a much more leading role, say, combative and
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it is time for Argentina. They have not understood this time well and their
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own spaces of power have been cut off. Not good, estimated in Buenos
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Aires it' s five o' clock in the afternoon. You' re
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