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How to Find Clean Beauty Products Without the Stress with Jacquelyn Rodriguez · The Eye Believe Podcast

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hey everyone
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I'm Megan with the Eye Believe Podcast
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we have a fantastic guest today
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I can't wait for you to meet her
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we have Jacquelyn Rodriguez
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she is the owner of Enlightened Styles Salon
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and the Holistic Salon Academy
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so welcome Jacquelyn
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thank you for being here
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thank you so much for having me
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I'm super excited to just dive into
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amazing conversations yeah
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so tell us a little bit about yourself
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and what brought you to our podcast
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what brought me to the podcast was just
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really my love for holistic lifestyle
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but even more so
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because of the industry I've been in for so long
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is really the holistic
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clean and sustainable beauty industry
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and you know
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everything that that brings us together with
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and that's why I'm so excited that you're here
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because we really do need some help breaking it down
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because when you go to buy cosmetics or just
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you know to the salon
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there's all kinds of products
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and it's so overwhelming what's safe and what isn't
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and I think we really do need your help
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yeah it is a big
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big undertaking
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I have been doing my research for probably
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the salon's been 13 years
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so um 15
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16 years of really diving in deep to like
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what we even have our options and everything
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so it's a constant evolution of what is possible
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tell us a little bit about starting
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the Holistic Salon Academy
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what was that like well
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the academy has come over the last four years
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and really the reason I started the academy
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is from running the salon for the last 13 years
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and seeing like that there is a gap
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a huge gap in the industry where a lot of stylists just
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we don't even know that we're around toxic chemicals
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and the impact is actually happening
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like it's having on our own lives and our livelihood
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and then also like
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the responsibility of
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what we offer to our clients in the salon
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so like
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it really affects like every aspect of our lives
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and I saw a huge gap there because I was
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you know when I started my salon
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I literally had no one telling me what I should do
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how to set it up what products to use
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what not to do I had to figure it out on my own
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so after all of these years
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I just decided that I could talk about this in my sleep
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haha I absolutely love it
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and why not give other stylists and salon owners
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the blueprint so
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that they don't have to figure it all out by themselves
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and create a community of like minded caring
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impact driven salon owners
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I love that it's so true
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what you put on your body is just as important
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as what we put in our body
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and we hear so much about nutrition
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but cosmetics we don't hear near enough about
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well and you see the trends happening
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like you see it first in the food
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like you said
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we've heard about organic food and eating less sugar
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and reducing the toxins and now we've got food
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babe going everywhere and really making like
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you know people stand up for what they want
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and what they don't want in their food
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and we've been seeing that for a long time
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and that really switched over to the wellness industry
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the health industry you know
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working out how many like
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detoxes have you seen and red light therapy and saunas
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and all of these things
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and it switched over to the health and wellness
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it's slowly trickling in to the beauty industry
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and the beauty industry
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I feel like is a little bit harder only because like
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we don't typically think about like
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health and wellness when we're talking beauty
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cause that's the outside but everything
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everything we do
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is going to impact everything we have on the outside
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what you put in your body
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how you take care of your body
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the products that you're putting into
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or on your body and into your body
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it all makes sense
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and you just start to see those trends
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coming over to the beauty industry
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we're still in the awareness stage though
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makes total sense I had one of those awareness moments
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this was several years ago
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but you know
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I grew up my whole life putting lotion on
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not thinking twice about it
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because that was just what you did
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and then one day I had a lotion bottle that I used
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all of the lotion and it dawned on me
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that I had put that entire bottle of lotion
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into my body like absorbed through my skin
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but like
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every chemical in that thing had gone into my body
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not ingested but just absorbed
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and it was this very weird awakening feeling of like
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oh my gosh
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what's in this
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and so I kind of get like what you're saying
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like
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we take it so for granted that we don't think about it
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well because we haven't really been taught
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like we can't do something about something
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we don't even know about right
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and you don't think about these things
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because if you look at all the commercials
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you look at TV you look at all the celebrities
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they're putting whatever on
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and there's no talk about
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is this actually healthy for you or is it not
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so you do what you know and you've been taught to do
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and you don't question it
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until you have a moment like that
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and really once you have that moment
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it is like a complete eye opener
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and then you start to you can't unsee it right
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you start to make different decisions
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you may not know exactly where to start
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but at least you're able to wake up to that fact
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and I remember going through that
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and for me it was
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oh it was like I opened Pandora's
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box and I couldn't close it ever again
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and it was scary because then all the sudden
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I started freaking out about like everything
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everything that was around me
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every lotion every makeup product
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every hair I'm
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I'm in the beauty industry
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so I'm bombarded with products
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and I didn't know really where to start
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and I started to feel like overwhelmed
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and I really kind of almost stopped and said okay
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I can't deal with this like it's too hard
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and in that moment I remember thinking okay
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I just I got
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I just gotta take one thing right
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it's that one lotion it's that one product
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it is one shampoo and if I can just change one thing
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then the rest just start to come a little bit easier
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so I had to like
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learn how to manage my emotions
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and also manage the overwhelm
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absolutely so one thing that you mentioned
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the celebrities I just wanna touch on that for a second
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because that is one of the worst things because
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you know those celebrities are not using the products
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they're selling
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they're doing it because they're getting paid to do it
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I don't think
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Jennifer Aniston uses Ponds from the grocery store
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but will she sell it yes
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so that is definitely something to consider
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is just because somebody's doing an ad
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it does not mean they are using that product
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and then the next thing you mentioned
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being overwhelmed by the products
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I feel like that at the grocery store like buying food
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I feel like that like if I buy organic apples
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but I don't buy organic tomatoes
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is it even worth buying the organic apples
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and where's the line and how much
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and we just have to do the best we can
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even if it's just one product
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just start with one product
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do the best you can do and don't freak out
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if it's not all the products
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it's not all or none it's as best as you can yes
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so one thing I'm gonna say to that is
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we've got to think about
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our beauty routines in a completely different way right
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it does not have to be all or nothing
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I've been doing this for 15 years
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there are still some things where I'm just like
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I know it's not the best for me
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I mean I color my hair I have green hair
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I use a lower ammonia color
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so I try to do what I can
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but it's not all or nothing
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cause if we approach it from that perspective
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we are gonna burn out
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and we are just gonna like give up
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it is not going to be sustainable
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so the other thing about that is
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we don't have to do everything perfectly
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if you just pick one product
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like if every human on this earth just chose one thing
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the compound effect would dramatically reduce right
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cause we we know compound effect in like
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finance and things like that
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where one penny can turn into $1 million over time
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it's the same with toxins
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one toxic product that you eliminate
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is going to have a compound effect on your health
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so when you do if you think of it that way
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you just do one at a time because here's the thing
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everything we have and I'm
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I'm grabbing for things
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because I'm right here at my makeup desk haha
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so I have all of my things if I just grab one of them
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it is also going to trigger something in me
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to go to the store when I'm shopping online
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and just look like
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can I find a better product next time
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cause it's all consumable
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you are going to use it
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and then you're gonna go find something new
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so if every time you go to find something new
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you just look for a little bit better
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doesn't have to be the end all be all product
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it's just the how
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is it a little bit better than the last product I had
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those small steps are going to be
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have huge benefits and compound effect on your health
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and to help you reduce
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and then it just becomes a way of living
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and then you don't have to think about it
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it doesn't have to be like
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throw everything in your bathroom
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in the trash and start fresh
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it can just be replace one item as you run out of it
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and you would have bought something anyway
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exactly and here's the thing is I
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I talk about clean ingredients
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but I'm also really into sustainability for the earth
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and not creating a bunch of waste
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so it would be very awful of me to tell you like
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go clean out your entire makeup cabinet
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throw it all away
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and go buy something new that's cleaner
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why then we have a whole another issue
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and we're creating a bunch of waste
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you wasted a lot of money
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you wasted a lot of resources
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look using up what you have is not going to kill you
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you've already been using it for this long
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it's just the conscious thought of changing
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when you go to get something else
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and not thinking always like it again
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it doesn't have to be all or nothing
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but how is it affecting a circular economy as well
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which includes the sustainability and everything
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that's a great way to look at it
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so can you tell us a little bit about
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what kind of products we should look for
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and what kind of ingredients we should stay away from
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what are the things that you wanna look
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for and wanna avoid of course
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this could be an episode on its own and I
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so I and I don't claim to be a chemist like I'm
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I don't know all the names and like
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the technical jargon of it all
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but what you what you wanna do is research
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looking at the ingredients
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so the No. 1 thing I will say is
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do not look at the front of the bottle
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that's all marketing
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it's going to say because it's trendy now
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it's gonna say natural paraben free
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toxic free uh clean ingredients
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natural organic I mean
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there's a whole slew of names that they're putting to
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to this
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but the issue is
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the FDA is not regulating any of these terms
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so they can put whatever they want on their bottles
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they can literally say organic ingredients
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and one ingredient in the bottle is organic
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but you now have the knowledge to flip it over haha
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and look at the ingredients and when you do that
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you will automatically start to see okay
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so they say organic and 10 ingredients are organic
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okay we're on a good roll
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or you flip it over and it's one organic ingredient
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and then a bunch of other stuff you can't pronounce
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maybe not the best solution right
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start to do the research
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looking at what are the ingredients
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one of the biggest ingredients that a lot of people
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don't think about
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and it's really important in like beauty
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and skin care for people is fragrance
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and perfume
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and this one was a little hard for me to like swallow
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because I was like oh
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this is just so frustrating
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I personally can't do perfumes
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like I immediately have like a bad reaction headache
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the whole 9
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so I can't use them
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because it does trigger effects for me
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but in perfume and fragrance
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when you see that on the bottle
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it is a proprietary blend
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it is not regulated you as a company
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they can put whatever inside of that and not claim it
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because it's proprietary
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and they don't want somebody to steal
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their proprietary blend so that's very scary
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yes it is
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they can hide whatever chemical they wanna hide
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I'm not saying that every single
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every single product does that right
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there are brands out there that say perfume
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and say fragrance
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and then they list out everything that is in that
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so for me when I go to look for a brand
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that I am gonna personally use on myself
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or my kids or my clients I look for transparency
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so if I flip that bottle around
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and I can see all the ingredients are in there
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and it says perfume
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but then it lists out all the essential oils
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or that they use safe synthetic fragrances
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okay we're somewhere now right
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so it's just knowing that
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like what to start to look for
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and again
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if you buy something and then you find out oh my gosh
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this was not as clean as I thought
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you just buy something different next time
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and you're okay
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it takes a little while to like get the hang of it
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and also just to
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you know
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to know what you're looking for
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that's a great way to look at it
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so do
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you have any favorite products
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that you could recommend yeah
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I have so many cause I have to
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so as a professional and in my salon
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my favorite products are OUAI
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so if you can find an OUAI salon near you
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you are on the right track
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the products are super clean
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it's a brand from Italy and they are very transparent
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not everything's 100% and they are super
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super clean from a biodynamic farm
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great brand another one for professionals
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or if you're going to the salon and looking
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Innersense Beauty is phenomenal
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they have amazing products really clean
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really you know stable
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and into sustainability
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and being as transparent as possible
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so those are professionals
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I also love dip hair care
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if you've ever used a shampoo and conditioner bar
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this one is the absolute best really caring
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really great ingredients
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they do use synthetic fragrances
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but the safe for you synthetic fragrances
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because the one thing about the fragrances
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there is like
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everybody's either team synthetic or team natural or
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you know essential oils
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but everyone cannot be okay with one or the other right
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you may be allergic to essential oils to plant based
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then you've got a whole another problem
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so safe synthetic fragrances is the way to go there
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so
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being able to really take a look at the transparency
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and
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the brand and dip is one of my favorites for that
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makeup wise I mean we could be here a while
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how many do you want me to give you
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haha eye makeup would be really helpful
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because a lot of our patients have a prosthetic eye
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and there's you know
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just some issues with the eye
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so any good eye products would be really helpful
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so with eye products
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my two favorites are Ilia Beauty Mascara
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their mascara is beautiful
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it works it's what I have on today Ilia
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they also have I have my little
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now these are the ones I use
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so they don't judge me for being a little dirty
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because it's white it's so hard
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makeup and white don't go together
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but Ilia is a great brand
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they've got beautiful eyeshadows
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and they have beautiful mascaras that last
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they're great they give great volume
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and then the other brand that I love is Fit
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Glow Beauty this is a primer for your eyelashes
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fantastic so I don't have super long
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luxurious eyelashes and I use this primer and it's
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it's a purple base
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and this just helps coat and give me like
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longer lashes and then I put the Ilia mascara over top
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oh that's a pro tip
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yeah haha fantastic
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this is like my duo here I love it
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do you have a question about mascara
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sure what do you think about waterproof mascara
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is that bad what makes it waterproof chemicals
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not good for you chemicals
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yes oh no
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so anything waterproof
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whether it's mascara whether it's lipstick
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you know those forever lipsticks that last all day
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it can't be good for you it is a chemical base
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it's a forever chemical that is gonna be endo um
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disruptors
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I always stay away from waterproof or like long lasting
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especially in any type of makeup or things like that
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but even if you're thinking about like
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any type of product that you're using
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there's gotta be some chemical that makes it waterproof
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and it's not gonna be the best option
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cause I personally don't know of a clean
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waterproof brand
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that's what I was afraid you were gonna say I'm sorry
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what do we wear to the beach
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nothing nothing
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I don't wear any makeup when I go to the beach
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or I just know that I'm gonna have to take and wipe it
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so I don't have you know yeah
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the the black eye basically
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yeah and I just reapply my lipstick so yeah
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there's always gonna be given take to it
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but I have gotten away from all waterproof myself okay
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I will do that when my tube is empty
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I will not buy waterproof again haha
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I'm so sorry I know it was like it's such a low blow
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haha oh
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it is it's hard
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but I was pretty sure you were gonna say that
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so I was already thinking that that's why I asked
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so thanks for confirming of course
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we'll ditch the waterproof haha
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what about lips
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because you ingest what you put on your lips
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so how about lips yeah
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Ilia is one of my favorites too
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so I don't have one right here
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I have their little testers
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they send these they're amazing
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so lip balms
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amazing lip balms with all different colors
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they come in actual tubes
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I just don't have it near me
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but they got all colors really clean
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you're not gonna be having
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you know all of the extra chemicals in it
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those red dyes and things like that
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like we see it we we don't want it in our food
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it's not allowed in our cosmetics anymore
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but you also wanna make sure there's not like
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heavy metals and things like that
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and waterproof is an absolute no no okay
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so red dyes are not allowed in cosmetics either
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no they haven't been I think it's like red dye 7 or 8
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I don't quote me on which one
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but there's one red dye that they haven't had in
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cosmetics forever
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but it's still allowed in our food so yay
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yeah and that's one of the things Food Babe is
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fighting right now is you know
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to get those out of our food
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because if it's not allowed in our cosmetics
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why are we ingesting it
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who is Food Babe I haven't heard of
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food babe is she's I don't know her personally
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I want to I'd love to
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yeah she's super cool
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let me look her up okay author and founder of Truvani.
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but she is going to
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all these big companies and demanding
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like
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she's really getting people signing up and advocating
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like going in and actually like lobbying
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so she's really inspiring
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because she's going in and causing a ruckus
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and getting people to start
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to look at what's in our foods
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and what we're giving our kids
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and to call these companies and
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actually hold them accountable
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because I know nothing about the food industry
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like I just know I what I want and don't want in it
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but I haven't dove deep into that
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but just like
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Kellogg's is one that she's really been going for
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because in their cereals that we give
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like it's marketed to give to our kids for breakfast
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lunch and dinner great snack
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you know
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all of these things and they have dyes in them
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and we know that the dyes actually are causing
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and wreaking havoc on our bodies
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and we're giving it to these young innocent children
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and in the States
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they have food dyes in Canada and the EU
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they're not food dyes
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they're dyed with vegetables and natural
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like actually natural dyes
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and if they already have that formula
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why are they poisoning the kids of the United States
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instead of giving them something that is cleaner
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and less harmful to to our kids
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so she is rallying against to
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you know these companies
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to start making changes and hold them accountable
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so like
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I love what she's doing and I wanna do that and uh
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you know in the
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the beauty industry like
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that's why I have started my salon
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to raise awareness and to help others
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like
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really see that you can become a conscious consumer
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and then
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the Academy is really to offer more salons like mine
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across the world like we should have more options
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but again we don't know what we don't know
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so I'm on a much much smaller scale yet right now
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right that Food Babe has just been able to like
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make some really amazing moves
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and create some buzz around it in a positive way right
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I love it so you have to follow her
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I will! I haven't heard her
24:33
but I'm excited to check her out
24:35
and I have no doubt that you will do the same
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in cosmetics so
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I'm really excited to
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watch what you end up doing with it
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cause it is fascinating and it is so overwhelming
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people want the help
24:46
they wanna follow someone like you who's gonna say hey
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here's a good product try this
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so they don't have to go stand at the store and look at
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you know a whole aisle of options
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and then they get overwhelmed and think
24:58
I can't read the back of 50 products
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I don't know what's the best one
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yeah
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I think that people would love somebody to tell them
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this is a good choice
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yeah and I
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I love giving my opinion on like what I personally use
25:44
but I do think it starts to become
25:46
where we do have to take a little bit more
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accountability for what we're purchasing
25:52
because we do vote with our dollars
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every single dollar you spend
25:56
you are voting
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and we don't think about it that way
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because it's the easiest
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or it's what we've been told to buy
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or it's what we've bought for like
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the last however many years right
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so we just we stop taking the
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the thought process out of what we're buying
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and we just kind of do what we've always done
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or been told to do
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and when we start to really look at that behavior
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and see like hey
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I'm in control
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I don't have to know everything
26:29
but I'm consciously going to spend
26:32
and vote with my dollars in things that I believe in
26:36
and that align with my values
26:38
and that are not gonna be harmful to me or the planet
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I
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I think it's a very powerful stance to be in and again
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doesn't have to be all or nothing
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but it is you know really taking
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control of what you are doing on a day to day basis
26:58
and follow people like me or have
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you know have other people that you're following
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there's a ton of apps out there as well
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that can also help you like
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I don't know I've done this for a long time
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and I still can't even pronounce half of the
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ingredients that are in products
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but I do my research
27:16
and I have apps that I will look at and say okay
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this ingredient does this and then I know is it okay
27:24
is it something that's really gonna harm me
27:26
is it something that maybe is not that big of a deal
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unless I have an allergy to it right
27:33
so looking and researching a little bit more
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do you have the name of any of the apps
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off the top of your head yes
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the one I personally use is Switch Natural
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and there's a lot of apps out there
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the one thing which is actually funny
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my stylist just sent me a message yesterday
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and was like hey
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why are we not like
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rated very high on these other apps
27:57
take everything you see on the apps
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and it's all with a grain of salt
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you have to like do your research
28:04
do your due diligence
28:06
some of these apps will give you a rating
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based off of their values
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and what's important to them
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what their standards are
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so you have to see does it align
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I will usually search a few different apps
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especially when I was first starting
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like I would search a few different apps if one said oh
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this is terrible for you
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but then one said it was completely clean
28:29
I'm like okay why
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because there's again it's their standards
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so see what's important to you
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and look at what is the ingredient
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if it's the last ingredient on the whole list
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and it is something that only if you have allergies to
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maybe citrus essential oils
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that it's gonna be bad for you okay
28:52
are you do you actually have citrus oil allergies
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or do you not right now
28:58
if it's a formaldehyde or something
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that is gonna be like wreaking havoc okay
29:04
don't don't use them right
29:06
you don't wanna use those
29:07
but some of them
29:08
it can be just allergens for certain people
29:11
so the E W
29:12
G is another one they have an app and on skin
29:17
I think it's what my stylist use
29:20
but don't quote me on that one
29:22
I'll have to look that one up because she uses that one
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but I use Switch Natural perfect
29:27
and we can link those in the show notes
29:29
so if you're wanting to check those out
29:31
check the show notes and then my next question
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are there any stores that carry more of these products
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that would be you know
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people might have more luck in
29:42
or stores that carry less of them
29:44
that maybe like skip that store
29:46
that's a tough one cause where I'm at
29:49
there's not a whole lot of stores I can go to
29:53
that's probably a lot of people actually yeah
29:55
so I do a lot more shopping online with the brand
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I don't here's one tip don't buy off Amazon
30:04
do not buy cosmetics or hair products
30:07
and things like that or vitamins or food off of Amazon
30:11
unless you are going to that brands Amazon store
30:17
if it is a 3rd party store just don't buy it
30:21
you have no idea what you're getting
30:23
and it's especially
30:24
cause a lot of the times you're getting like
30:26
a discount is like oh my goodness this you know
30:28
hundred dollar palette is 5.99
30:33
I promise the store is not selling it for 5.99
30:37
and you're not getting the real thing
30:38
cause I've actually had clients bring me
30:41
products that they have bought off of Amazon
30:44
and they're like oh
30:44
well I
30:45
I was able to get my OUAI way off of Amazon for like
30:48
cheaper but I I don't really like it
30:50
it doesn't it's not working for me
30:53
like okay
30:53
bring it in bring it in
30:55
and we literally will take my bottle
30:58
from the manufacturer
31:00
and the bottle that they got off of Amazon
31:03
and it's not even the same like color consistency
31:06
it's not the same product
31:07
it's just being refilled with things
31:09
it might be the bottle that's crazy
31:12
so I definitely don't buy off Amazon
31:15
look at the stores
31:16
there might be stores like the Sephora near me
31:20
I won't buy anything from the Sephora
31:22
I went to when I was in um
31:25
where was it Sacramento or somewhere
31:28
they actually had they sold Ilia
31:30
so I could go in and actually test out the Ilia brand
31:36
and then I order online
31:38
cause sometimes you just wanna be able to touch makeup
31:41
and these types of things
31:42
so you can research the stores around you
31:45
uh if you go to Ilia
31:47
com you can see which ones are around you
31:50
one other store that I really love is
31:52
if you can find a refillery
31:55
it's fantastic usually refillries
31:58
and I say usually because of course
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not everything is 100% all the time
32:02
but for the most part refillaries are gonna
32:04
really be focused on sustainability
32:06
for sure cause they're trying to reduce waste
32:09
but they're also gonna be focused on cleaner products
32:12
cause if you're caring about sustainability
32:14
usually care what are the ingredients
32:15
because that also harms our planet
32:18
those are great places to shop
32:21
shop with your local uh
32:23
refillery and there's a lot of products there
32:26
and then
32:27
look for a stylist that's going to focus on more clean
32:31
and sustainable products great advice
32:33
I love that
32:34
I didn't realize that Amazon was selling knockoffs
32:37
but it makes total sense
32:39
I I would have just never guessed yeah
32:42
well
32:42
we don't we don't think about it until you get burned
32:45
I had a client who bought a Dyson Airwrap on there
32:49
working perfectly it was great
32:52
six months later broke
32:54
she's like oh
32:55
I'm call she was calling Dyson over and over again
32:58
cause I you know
32:59
I'm not an affiliate for Dyson
33:00
but I love Dyson products cause they're so innovative
33:04
yeah they're amazing
33:05
so I use them in the salon
33:07
I talk about them and she was like yeah
33:09
you told me that they've got great customer service
33:12
but I'm calling them and they're like
33:13
giving me the runaround
33:15
and they're not like listening to me
33:18
come to find out she bought a knockoff
33:21
she spent 500 and some dollars
33:24
bought a knockoff
33:26
that is obviously not a Dyson product
33:29
so Dyson I mean what is Dyson supposed to do
33:31
they can't they can't give you a replacement
33:33
they can't give you money back
33:35
cause it's not actually a Dyson product
33:38
so she lost all that money
33:40
so again
33:42
make sure it's from the company itself
33:45
cause there's some companies out there who have
33:47
you know their brand store on Amazon
33:52
they're selling you the actual stuff
33:54
but don't buy from third party yeah
33:58
be very careful that is very good advice
34:01
if you take nothing else away
34:03
that might one nugget you keep
34:06
it's cause we're all shopping on Amazon as much as
34:08
I mean that's an episode of its own also
34:10
like what's happening behind the scenes and everything
34:13
but just be safe if you are shop local
34:17
there's so many cool brands and stores out there
34:21
really trying to do good
34:23
and they're there depending of course
34:26
where you live
34:27
but if especially if you're in bigger cities
34:29
forget it you've got access to so many cool things
34:32
definitely and right now
34:34
you know all the companies are shipping
34:36
so really I mean
34:39
you pretty much are gonna have access to anything
34:41
especially if you live in the States yeah
34:44
and if you're in other countries
34:45
I mean Canada's got some amazing product lines
34:49
that you can get there that's harder for us to get here
34:52
right doing the research
34:54
you know when you're sitting there watching TV
34:57
and you're hanging out
34:59
just dive into a few different product
35:02
brands and look at their page
35:04
and kind of do that background research of
35:08
are they really transparent
35:09
like cause
35:10
one of the things you wanna look at
35:11
when you're looking online is
35:14
first off on their page
35:17
are they actually telling you what the ingredients are
35:21
nothing is more frustrating than
35:24
getting on a page that says
35:27
key ingredients but then there's nowhere at all listed
35:31
the entire ingredient list
35:33
that to me is very frustrating and one of the red flags
35:37
so I I do my due diligence
35:39
and I will actually like
35:41
send them a message or call them and be like okay
35:43
so where's the full list
35:46
I want the full ingredient list
35:48
if they give me the runaround
35:49
but they're paid just saying natural and organic
35:52
I will not purchase so transparency looking at
35:57
you know are they gonna scream from the rooftops
35:59
that they are using clean ingredients
36:01
and that they're actually doing what they say
36:03
they're doing yeah fantastic
36:05
so if somebody wants to follow you
36:07
and see what you're posting about
36:09
and what you're using where can they follow you
36:11
the best place is the clean beauty Biz
36:14
coach on Instagram and Enlightened Styles on Instagram
36:18
so I'm there on both platforms
36:21
or all platforms under those names perfect
36:24
we will put that in the show notes
36:26
we'll put all of the links
36:27
so you can find Jacquelyn wherever you wanna be
36:31
is there anything else we wanna add
36:32
or are we ready to wrap up
36:34
I think the only thing is like
36:35
just give yourself some grace
36:38
enjoy the process
36:39
have fun with it and take one product one day at a time
36:44
I love that and
36:46
that's something we say on this podcast all the time
36:48
is give yourself some grace
36:50
we're all human and we do the best we can
36:52
and sometimes that's good
36:53
and sometimes it's less than good and it's all fine
36:58
80% of the time I am pretty much on board
37:01
20% of the time I'm just like
37:03
it is what it is like I
37:05
there's nothing I can do about it
37:06
it's okay right
37:08
and if you just do 10% better than you did last time
37:11
you're improving so shoot for 10%
37:13
if you can't shoot for more
37:15
that's enough yeah
37:16
so we're we're a big fan of do your best
37:19
and it's okay
37:19
it doesn't have to be perfect because we are human
37:22
and yeah give yourself some grace
37:24
love yourself and you know
37:26
extend that to your friends and family
37:27
to give them some grace
37:28
and sometimes if someone's annoying you
37:30
take a minute and remember that and think
37:33
you know what we're all human
37:34
let's take a chill pill and be happy
37:36
like you have no idea
37:39
what somebody's morning or evening was like
37:42
and I I swear
37:44
and live by the fact that if we just spread more love
37:48
like if I just lovingly smile at somebody
37:52
or just not let that person who cut me off
37:55
you know get under my skin and follow
37:58
you know the frustration all day
38:00
just spread more love and compassion for humanity
38:04
because we're all going through so much right now
38:09
yeah you ever have like a interaction with somebody
38:11
and they're just really kind to you
38:12
and it just brightens your whole day
38:14
and you just feel better
38:15
and then you're nice to someone
38:16
and it's that whole ripple effect
38:18
versus a bad interaction and then you're in a bad mood
38:21
and then you're rude to someone and then that ripples
38:23
so spread that positivity and kindness
38:27
and don't buy waterproof mascara
38:29
we're all gonna do our 10% better tomorrow
38:34
exactly all right
38:35
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38:36
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38:38
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38:39
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38:43
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