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Speaker 1: It is November twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now moving more hot air than a Jay Peace. Shadrick
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, ahead of
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Speaker 1: the Jags and the Packers coming up Sunday, Lambeau Field.
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick from the home studio, Jeff Logaman from his
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Speaker 1: home studio. Tony Boselli coming up as well. Here's what's
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Speaker 1: on the program today, Jags Packers preview. In week ten,
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Speaker 1: the Jags at one and seven, they dropped seven straight games.
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Speaker 1: The Packers are well rested. They played on Thursday night
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Speaker 1: last week. They are six and two and playing at home.
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Speaker 1: While the crowd it will not be there. No fans
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Speaker 1: allowed at Lambeau Luton versus Rogers. Big difference in experience
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Speaker 1: between these you obviously a huge defensive task for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars group this week against Rogers and those weapons on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side for Green Bay. We'll here from the
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Speaker 1: head coach in an hour from now on the Doug
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Speaker 1: Morone Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Also, we welcome
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Speaker 1: in Jeff Laghman. Tony Baselli is somewhere nearby, we're told
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Speaker 1: as well. We'll get to him. Tony. Welcome in Logs.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in, Tony. You're in Nashville, right, Tony. I'm in Nashville, Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: getting ready to head to the stadium here and about
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so forty five minutes and do the
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game tonight Titans. Are you going? Are you
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Speaker 1: going to wear your Jaguars shirt you're wearing now to
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Speaker 1: the stadium? That would be I'm gonna wear this. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna wear this under a pull over just so if
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Speaker 1: a fight breaks out, I can rip this my poll
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Speaker 1: over off and dive into melee. I like that he's
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Speaker 1: wearing it because he got it for free, just like
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing his shirt because I got it for free. Here,
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Speaker 1: all three of us, all three of us. That's how
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Speaker 1: it works. Let's get into the Let me interrupt real
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Speaker 1: quick here. Is it professional for Basselli to be a
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Speaker 1: now scene an a f C South game, Okay, for
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Speaker 1: Westwood one wearing a Jaguar shirt underneath of his pullover?
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Speaker 1: Is that professional? Yes, you're one. When you're one in seven, yes,
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Speaker 1: it's very professional. Yeah. When you're one in seven and
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Speaker 1: dislike both teams equally, I think it's pretty fair. I
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Speaker 1: don't think any I don't think anyone listening that are
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Speaker 1: Titans or Colts fans are worried about my allegiance to
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. With us not threatening the playoff picture at
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Speaker 1: this point, we can get and we could start this week,
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Speaker 1: We could back half of the season, second half, get
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Speaker 1: hot on the road. Nobody expects you to go play well.
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Speaker 1: You gotta a rookie quarterback making a second career start
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Speaker 1: in Jake Lewton. Of course, last week put together some
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Speaker 1: good things, some things to work on, you know, first
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Speaker 1: time out. Well, this week it's against the green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 1: Last week three four yards through the air, a touchdown
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Speaker 1: on the opening drive of the game. Three plays in.
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Speaker 1: He had the rushing touchdown on the final drive, but
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Speaker 1: the two point try fell short. Five or six in
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Speaker 1: that final drive told you a little bit of something
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Speaker 1: which was nice, but it fell just a little shy
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Speaker 1: last week. This week they're going up against Green Bay
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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers who was drafted in two thousand and
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Speaker 1: five when Jake Lewton was nine years old. Big difference
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Speaker 1: in experience, obviously, guys, this week logs just a little bit, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but this is definitely not the matchup that you sit
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Speaker 1: there and you go, well, yeah, the Jaguars got a chance.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a matchup that you sit there
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Speaker 1: and you go, this is gonna be tough. You're talking
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Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers, the number one rated quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League arguulian m m v P candidate this year,
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Speaker 1: He's already won it twice. Now he's got an offensive
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Speaker 1: putting up over thirty points a game against the defense
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Speaker 1: that's given up thirty plus points a game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is a tough matchup for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars to go on the road to. One thing I
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Speaker 1: think that they're gonna help them a little bit is
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Speaker 1: that at least there's no fans in Lambeau and the
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Speaker 1: young quarterback doesn't have to deal with any crowd noise.
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Speaker 1: So I mean that's that's a positive. But this is
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Speaker 1: a tough match up. Yeah, he might have to deal
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Speaker 1: with the con noise, h logs. We get to deal
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Speaker 1: with one of the best teams in the NFL. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the reality is you said it all at the beginning
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Speaker 1: when you talked about Aaron Rodgers and the year he's
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Speaker 1: having and how they can score points offensively. You know,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has been um banged up a little bit,
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Speaker 1: but when he's healthy, he scores touchdowns, you know, almost
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Speaker 1: at a greater rate than anybody else. And so they
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Speaker 1: can do it on the ground. They can do the air.
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams one of the best receivers at all football,
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Speaker 1: you know, the one. You know, the one thing I
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Speaker 1: think maybe you can take advantage of a year of
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars is that is the Packers rush defense. They've
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Speaker 1: been a little bit leaky this year at times. Maybe
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Speaker 1: you can get the run game going and shorten the
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Speaker 1: ball game and and give yourself a chance in this,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the fourth quarter. But outside of that,
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a complete team. Um, they're very good.
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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing that when you think about
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Speaker 1: Jake Luton, that was his first start he played. It's
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Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and nobody
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Speaker 1: had any tape on him since Oregon State. Trust me,
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Speaker 1: Green Bay was watching that game. They've had the extra
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Speaker 1: week or extra a few days because they played up
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Speaker 1: Thursday night, and now they will understand what he can do,
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Speaker 1: maybe what they want to try to force him. Um,
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Speaker 1: to do to be uncomfortable. And so he's gonna see
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Speaker 1: a little bit more this week from the Green Bay Packers. Well,
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Speaker 1: and let me let me add this, Uh, he's gonna
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Speaker 1: see a lot more just because the defense, uh run
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Speaker 1: by Green Bay can show a lot more. The Texans
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Speaker 1: are a little bit vanilla. You know. They weren't very
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Speaker 1: good against the run. So I mean, if you if
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Speaker 1: you want to talk about a good starter defense in
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Speaker 1: other words, you know, to get your first start against
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Speaker 1: the Texas defense was probably about as good as it
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Speaker 1: can get. But this week with Green Bay defense defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Petton, I know him very well. Uh Tony,
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Speaker 1: you know him very well. He started with Rex Ryan
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Speaker 1: all the way back with the Baltimore Ravens, and then
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Speaker 1: he moved on and become his defensive coordinator when Rex
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Speaker 1: got the job as the head coach of the New
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Speaker 1: York Jets. And and Rex and Mike were known for
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Speaker 1: doing some things that were uh didn't even have any
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Speaker 1: basic fundamentals. I mean it was just totally off the wall.
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Speaker 1: They would leave to zone blitzes and leave certain zones
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Speaker 1: completely uncovered just to try to get pressure on the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: And so they can do some very unconventional things. Now
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Speaker 1: looking Green Bay, Mike Petton is not quite quite as
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Speaker 1: crazy at doing some of those exotic schemes as he
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Speaker 1: was with Doug Moron and also what he's done in
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Speaker 1: his past, But he's capable of doing stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: And that's a little bit of a concern for me
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Speaker 1: because you know, when you have a young quarterback and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start seeing some of this
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Speaker 1: exotic stuff and unconventional stuff, makes it really tough on
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Speaker 1: any quarterback, much less of a rookie quarterback making a
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Speaker 1: second career start. Yeah, I think what you're saying, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: is you wonder you know, veteran guys can take advantage,
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Speaker 1: uh when at times when Petton does stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: because he does, you know, avoid zones and everything else,
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Speaker 1: and if you get the right protection and you recognize it,
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Speaker 1: you can take advantage of it. But you know, but
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Speaker 1: can you expect that out of a guy who's making
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Speaker 1: a second start. Um, you know, that's that's a lot
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Speaker 1: to ask, And so you worry about you know, Petting
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Speaker 1: and that defense beyond overwhelmed them. They've got two good
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Speaker 1: rushers on the outside, then get after you, they're not
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Speaker 1: afraid the blitz and bring stuff out of the second
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Speaker 1: even secondary A lot of secondary blitz is so I mean, listen,
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Speaker 1: I like to be as positive as anybody, but this
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Speaker 1: one is, uh, you know, this is one that you
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Speaker 1: better run the ball. You know, We've said that every
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Speaker 1: week about James Robinson. He's really good. The offensive lines
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Speaker 1: playing well. This is a game where you almost have
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Speaker 1: to lean on him completely. Well. I mean you did
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Speaker 1: a little bit last week, but yeah, you gotta do
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Speaker 1: it again. One one note, Preston Smith is not quite
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Speaker 1: having the year that Zadarius Smith is having on the
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Speaker 1: opposite side, So that's a little bit of a help.
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Speaker 1: By the way. Uh, watching the film, and I bring
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Speaker 1: this up just because it's it's not very often that
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Speaker 1: I do something like this, but having watched the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: film against the Texans, I have to bring this up
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Speaker 1: because it was an amazing performance Zach Cunningham. That might
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Speaker 1: have been one of the best performances that I've seen
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Speaker 1: by a linebacker in the NFL this year. Watching film, Uh,
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Speaker 1: he was dominant. He was all over the place. And
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Speaker 1: for a Texans team that has one win, that has
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Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty about their future. Uh, Tony, I
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Speaker 1: don't know about you, a JP, I don't know about you.
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Speaker 1: Watching Zach Cunningham for the Texans. That guy, I'm talking
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Speaker 1: ray lewisesque game. And I'm not saying he's plays like
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Speaker 1: that every week and ray Lewis obviously did it for
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Speaker 1: a long time, but for for that game, he was amazing. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's outstanding. And mean he's you know, that's why they
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Speaker 1: paid him. He probably he's not playing at that level
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Speaker 1: that he did on Sunday because the Jaguars. But he
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Speaker 1: was really good. And I love your opinion of this.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think Miles Jack played as well
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Speaker 1: as Za Cunningham, but he was pretty dangn good too,
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Speaker 1: I mean, coming back after, I mean, he played a
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Speaker 1: heck of a football game. And and let me let
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Speaker 1: me add this here real quick. I think one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons why he played well was the performance of
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Speaker 1: the defensive tackles up front. I thought Doug Coston gave
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars a better performance than they were getting from
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Speaker 1: Taven Bryant, and I think that allowed allowed Miles Jack
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Speaker 1: to do his job better. I mean, you think about
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Speaker 1: the play in which he causes as a fumble and
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Speaker 1: he's ripping at that ball. Well, the reason he's free
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Speaker 1: is that Doug Coston, on his own blitz is going
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Speaker 1: up the field and and I actually did display for
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Speaker 1: Jack's wired and it's his own blitz Tony, you know,
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Speaker 1: did Josh Allen's dropping and uh, Doug Coston's looping for
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Speaker 1: containment and a lot of times want to tackle Loot
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Speaker 1: for containment. They kind of get thrown up the field
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Speaker 1: a lot of times. But Doug Coston actually did a
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Speaker 1: great job of going up the field to do his
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Speaker 1: job and then realizing it's a run, well, then he
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Speaker 1: squeezes back. And when he squeezes back, he also had
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Speaker 1: on the other side one of the other defensive lineman
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Speaker 1: gots his squeeze and and so the left tackle for
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Speaker 1: the Texans Tunsil is trying to come around and get
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Speaker 1: up into the hole the block. Miles Jack rely can't
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Speaker 1: because of the performance of cost and squeezing gots this
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Speaker 1: kind of squeezing and he's like he's trying to jump
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Speaker 1: over some legs to go up to Miles Jack and
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Speaker 1: he can't get there. Well, Miles Jack is now free
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Speaker 1: and he squares up makes a nice hit. Well, think
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Speaker 1: about it if Tuns gets up into that hole Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack is not squared up and making a nice firm
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Speaker 1: hit and then worried about ripping the ball. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we always talk about and you you go back to
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Speaker 1: ray Lewis, you know where we were talking about just
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Speaker 1: a second ago, and how good ray Lewis was and
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Speaker 1: Tony you know, I mean watching the guys that played
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Speaker 1: in front of ray Lewis were one of the reasons
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Speaker 1: why ray Lewis was ray Lewis is because those two
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Speaker 1: big guys up front, I believe it was Adams and
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Speaker 1: Sarah Goose used to keep people off fifty two. You
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Speaker 1: couldn't get to him. Jeff backside of his own. Me
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Speaker 1: and Ben Cole would be trying to scoop Sarah Goose
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Speaker 1: and get up to the backside linebacker or you know,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes Ray would uh they shift that the mic
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Speaker 1: linebacker over. He's a responsibility. It was almost impossible to
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Speaker 1: get to him because Sarah Goose want you cheat and
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Speaker 1: hold you. But two of you so big you couldn't
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Speaker 1: move him. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want
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Speaker 1: people think, Okay, I'm compared Doug coss into Sarah Goose
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Speaker 1: or or Sam. I mean, I'm not trying to go there.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is that Doug comms But you're saying
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Speaker 1: playing good, Jeff, I mean you're saying, I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: nothing wrong. I mean the bottom line is, Haveven Brian
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Speaker 1: got bench for a reason? Doug Conston was starting for
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Speaker 1: a reason because they saw him practice, they saw him
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Speaker 1: performance in the previous games. And Doug Coston is better
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Speaker 1: and what's playing better? And it was proven out on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. Well, it won't be this
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Speaker 1: week because Gustin is a bank. Tavin Brian coming back
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Speaker 1: in this week and on the defensive line, we'll see
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Speaker 1: if he can step up his game. You know, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about wait minute, wait minute, wait miute, waitut wait minute, JP.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, who's to say that somebody else
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Speaker 1: playing not get an opportunity. And just because Doug Coston
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Speaker 1: is nott laying doesn't automatically mean that Taven Bryan is
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Speaker 1: going to go back to being a starter. It sounds
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Speaker 1: like to me that Logs has a scoop tell us.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is that that's a pretty big assumption
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Speaker 1: to make, okay, because there are other guys on the roster, so, uh,
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Speaker 1: I want to see it. I'm gonna be anxious to
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Speaker 1: what they do on game day come Sunday at that
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Speaker 1: three technique position. Does Taven Bryan go back to being
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Speaker 1: a starter? Um? And if he doesn't, boy, that speaks
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Speaker 1: volumes obviously for for that situation. But I mean they
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Speaker 1: don't have to go back to him. I mean they
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Speaker 1: can play equality in there at the three technique Uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean look at the depth chart JP. I mean
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Speaker 1: there's some guys that can bring up off a practice quad.
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Speaker 1: Bron read they can play the three techniques. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see what they do.
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Speaker 1: Will that will say a lot if they bring up
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Speaker 1: a practice squad, Try to start in front of Tavin Bryan.
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Speaker 1: You never know, right, you never know. Back in in
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Lagman and Tony Baselli back to the Jaguars offense,
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Speaker 1: Luton leading the way there, of course. But Tony, you
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Speaker 1: brought it up a moment ago, and we actually talked
18:50
Speaker 1: about this a little bit on the show yesterday afternoon
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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks. It does feel like a James Robinson
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Speaker 1: type day. You know, we I think we called turtle ball,
19:01
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Speaker 1: a long sustained drive if you can, obviously and keep
19:08
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers over on the sideline and sip and gatorade,
19:11
Speaker 1: that's probably the best way to go about this thing. Tony, Well, yeah,
19:15
Speaker 1: I mean yes, in the perfect world, that'd be great.
19:17
Speaker 1: But here's the caveat to that, or at least the
19:20
Speaker 1: what you have to have on the other side of
19:21
Speaker 1: the coin. You have to have a defense and get
19:23
Speaker 1: you some stops and get them up the field. Because
19:25
Speaker 1: you can play as slow and steady and melt the
19:28
Speaker 1: clock and try to shorten the game as much as
19:30
Speaker 1: you want. But if Aaron Rodgers is you know, score touchdowns.
19:34
Speaker 1: You know, seventy percent at the time of seventy percent
19:37
Speaker 1: of the drives are out there that game. Pang goes
19:39
Speaker 1: out the window real quick because now you're playing catch up,
19:42
Speaker 1: and so it's it's both. I mean you want to
19:44
Speaker 1: play that style football, which I would agree. I mean,
19:46
Speaker 1: I think that gives them their best chance. I can't
19:47
Speaker 1: imagine then getting in the shootout with Aaron Rodgers, um
19:52
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback in Jake Luton and making a
19:54
Speaker 1: second start and winning that style of football game. So
19:56
Speaker 1: I like, um, I would I prefer that style a game,
20:00
Speaker 1: but the defenses have to do their part as well.
20:04
Speaker 1: I'd like to see shootout why not? I mean, I
20:10
Speaker 1: mean entertaining and it's the new NFL. I mean, you
20:13
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback, I mean, let him go to
20:16
Speaker 1: Lambeau and go toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
20:19
Speaker 1: if he can do that, I mean what what would
20:20
Speaker 1: you be happier about? Seriously, would you be happier about
20:24
Speaker 1: the Jaguars team going to Lambeau and having a shootout
20:29
Speaker 1: and Jake Lwton goes. I don't want to say toe
20:31
Speaker 1: to toe, but he goes and he's keeping pace with
20:35
Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers team versus you know this turtle ball
20:39
Speaker 1: JP that you talk about. What you go you know,
20:41
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the Kansas City Chiefs back in
20:45
Speaker 1: the day Tony when they had Christian A. Koyer and
20:48
Speaker 1: very word, you know, and they're just handing the ball
20:50
Speaker 1: off left and right, and that's all they did was
20:53
Speaker 1: because they had two great players, you know, on on
20:56
Speaker 1: defense and Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas. I mean, I
20:59
Speaker 1: mean that's like the old NFL, mean that that NFL's
21:02
Speaker 1: no longer exists. I mean even the Baltimore Ravens who
21:06
Speaker 1: did it last year somewhat can't even do much of
21:09
Speaker 1: it this year at that level. So uh look here
21:13
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Where would this team be without
21:17
Speaker 1: James Robinson right now? I mean, would they even be competitive? Competitive?
21:22
Speaker 1: I mean, he has been that good for this team,
21:27
Speaker 1: and if you don't have him, I mean, I just
21:30
Speaker 1: I don't know where this team would be. I really don't,
21:33
Speaker 1: because he he has done a great job of keeping
21:36
Speaker 1: this team in the in the games. He has been
21:39
Speaker 1: a consistent factor when the quarterback play has been uh
21:43
Speaker 1: not great, and he has also kept a defense that
21:47
Speaker 1: hasn't been very good off the field as much as
21:50
Speaker 1: he possibly had had could do. So uh yeah, I
21:54
Speaker 1: mean right now, I don't think there's any doubt that
21:57
Speaker 1: James Robinson as a team m v P and he
22:00
Speaker 1: may set a record this year. You know, at the
22:02
Speaker 1: end of every NFL season, there is this uh uh
22:08
Speaker 1: incentive system that the NFL has, so they have a
22:11
Speaker 1: pool of money that essentially is distributed to the players
22:15
Speaker 1: in the National Football League that have outplayed their contracts.
22:19
Speaker 1: And since James Robinson was an undrafted guy, he's probably
22:22
Speaker 1: a minimum salary guy. He might end up being the
22:27
Speaker 1: most paid or the most highly bonused player after the
22:32
Speaker 1: season when it comes to those bonuses that the NFL
22:35
Speaker 1: hands out. A couple of things. Um, Listen, I'd rather
22:43
Speaker 1: want to shootout too. You're asking me what gives him
22:45
Speaker 1: the best chance of winning? Um? If you're asking what
22:49
Speaker 1: rather call? Yeah, go oupen down the field. Let's put
22:50
Speaker 1: a bunch of points on the board. Will be fun
22:52
Speaker 1: for the fans, It will be fun to call. I
22:53
Speaker 1: just don't know that's the best. Wait for this team
22:55
Speaker 1: to win a football game up in Lambo against the Packers. Um,
22:59
Speaker 1: and I agree with you with James Robinson. I mean,
23:01
Speaker 1: he's a great player and he's gonna it was a
23:03
Speaker 1: great fine. Give the scouts and whoever scouted him and
23:07
Speaker 1: said we need to go get him. And I can't
23:09
Speaker 1: believe that thirty two teams passed over him seven times,
23:12
Speaker 1: you know, throughout seven rounds. Crazy to me, Um, and
23:15
Speaker 1: he is gonna you know, you know, let's just continue
23:18
Speaker 1: to hope he stays healthy because he is the most
23:20
Speaker 1: valuable player and and I hope he gets a big
23:22
Speaker 1: check at the end of the year from the from
23:25
Speaker 1: the incentive school. Yeah, Keelan Cole as of late as
23:32
Speaker 1: the first couple of years he was in the league
23:34
Speaker 1: got a lot of money out of that pool at
23:36
Speaker 1: the end of those years. So it could be the
23:38
Speaker 1: same kind of idea for James Robinson this year. Offensive
23:42
Speaker 1: line last week had a j can back in there. Guys,
23:45
Speaker 1: how did he perform? How is that group as of
23:48
Speaker 1: late Tony? He played well, But you know they're much
23:52
Speaker 1: better unit with a J Cannon there. I mean it's
23:54
Speaker 1: night and day. Um. And as Jeff was talking about
23:59
Speaker 1: where with this team be with out James Robinson, which
24:01
Speaker 1: I agree with, I think a big part of that.
24:03
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line has been good this year.
24:04
Speaker 1: I mean they had the one bad game. I don't
24:06
Speaker 1: think they played well against Detroit. Um I thought that
24:08
Speaker 1: was a down performance, but that the games that a
24:11
Speaker 1: j Can has been a starter, and they've had their
24:13
Speaker 1: five guys out there, I think it's been a good unit.
24:15
Speaker 1: I think it's been a strong unit. I think they've
24:16
Speaker 1: done a good job protecting, running the ball, and they're
24:19
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a big day again up in
24:21
Speaker 1: uh in Green Bay. I mean, Jeff's right. Preston Smith
24:24
Speaker 1: that you know, the Smith brothers, they're not really related,
24:27
Speaker 1: but they have the same last names, is not having
24:29
Speaker 1: the year he did last year. Um Isa. Darius Smith though,
24:32
Speaker 1: was a very good pass rusher, you know, and both
24:34
Speaker 1: of them are kind of all over the place. They
24:36
Speaker 1: make plays, they're good in space, they can rush the passer,
24:39
Speaker 1: and both tackles are gonna have their hands, both those guys. Yeah,
24:46
Speaker 1: so the offensive line there, we'll see if they can
24:48
Speaker 1: continue the play this week against that Packers defense. How
24:53
Speaker 1: about tonight's game, Tony will run you out of here
24:56
Speaker 1: with a preview of a division rivalry in the a
24:59
Speaker 1: f C South, and the Titans are in control of
25:02
Speaker 1: the division right now. They really couldn't be with a
25:04
Speaker 1: win in tonight's game. Yeah, I mean it's you know too,
25:09
Speaker 1: you know, they're both the football teams. It's close. It's
25:11
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough matchup for both because of you
25:14
Speaker 1: know kind of strength. First strength at Tennessee offense behind
25:17
Speaker 1: the running game, but Derrick Henry and they're facing you know,
25:20
Speaker 1: the best defense in the NFL as far as yards
25:23
Speaker 1: given up, third scoring on defense. Here's an interesting stat um.
25:27
Speaker 1: In thirty seven years since the mayf Mayflower loaded up
25:32
Speaker 1: in Baltimore and drove the Colts to Indianapolis, they've had
25:35
Speaker 1: one team who had a top five defense, and that
25:40
Speaker 1: was the two thousand nine Indianapolis goals under Tony Dungee.
25:44
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a this has been a
25:46
Speaker 1: team that has not had very many good defenses, but
25:48
Speaker 1: they have one this year. And really their issues on offense,
25:51
Speaker 1: they are running the ball just okay. Philip Rivers is
25:55
Speaker 1: obviously not what what he once was, and when he
25:57
Speaker 1: turns over the ball, they lived. And so it's gonna
25:59
Speaker 1: be key that he played smart with the football. Um,
26:02
Speaker 1: he's going against the Tennessee Titans defense that played much
26:04
Speaker 1: better last week against an in bearrass team, but they're
26:07
Speaker 1: not a great unit, and so ye, strength against strength
26:09
Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see who wins that matchup
26:12
Speaker 1: between the Titans offense and the Colt defense. Yeah, the
26:16
Speaker 1: Colts took a took pretty big hit when they lost
26:18
Speaker 1: their start running back, and Philip Rivers is just not
26:21
Speaker 1: able to handle the load. Uh. And you look at
26:25
Speaker 1: the first couple of games of the season and against
26:27
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I mean, the reason the Jaguars were able
26:30
Speaker 1: to beat the Colts was because of the ineptitude of
26:34
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. And Uh, I know, Tony, you had a
26:38
Speaker 1: pretty high opinion of Jacoby Brissette. If if I'm Frank Wright,
26:43
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about possibly going back to the Jacoby
26:46
Speaker 1: Brissette because right now Philip Rivers is not helping this
26:49
Speaker 1: Coat team. Yeah, you know, Jeff, they almost I'm not
26:54
Speaker 1: saying there they have to win in spite of Philip Rivers.
26:56
Speaker 1: That's not accurate in the games that they want. He's
26:58
Speaker 1: played good football, but they lose because of him. He
27:01
Speaker 1: has two interceptions in two different games, the Jaguars and
27:04
Speaker 1: the Browns. They lost both those. He had an interception
27:07
Speaker 1: against the Ravens and did not play well, wildly inaccurate
27:10
Speaker 1: in that game. Um, and the defense was outstanding defensively,
27:13
Speaker 1: gave up like a hundred eleven yards. I think it
27:15
Speaker 1: is against the Ravens rushing attack. I mean they were
27:18
Speaker 1: dominant um and they still lost. So they gotta get
27:21
Speaker 1: better play at the quarterback position. But he doesn't have
27:23
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons either. You know why, Hilton's not
27:25
Speaker 1: the same guy who's out last week, but the growing
27:27
Speaker 1: he'll be back this week. But it's not like they're
27:30
Speaker 1: loaded with weapons outside. They don't win a lot of
27:32
Speaker 1: one on one matchups. Uh, just just a one thing here.
27:36
Speaker 1: First of all, t Y Hilton hasn't been a threat,
27:39
Speaker 1: an offensive threat for a number of years. And uh,
27:43
Speaker 1: if I'm the coach I'm looking at because they paid
27:46
Speaker 1: a lot of money, I'm looking at possibly moving on there.
27:49
Speaker 1: Number two, the defensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts. I
27:54
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be And even though it's not a
27:56
Speaker 1: cool or a hot thing to talk about, a defensive
28:00
Speaker 1: coordinator is a potential head coaching candidate. But the job
28:03
Speaker 1: that he's been able to do in Indianapolis this year
28:07
Speaker 1: and then also in previous years without a lot of
28:09
Speaker 1: talent has been pretty good. Is it? Is it? Ebra
28:13
Speaker 1: flus ebra Flus even first, Yeah, I got it written.
28:18
Speaker 1: I gotta look at him, but yeah, something like that.
28:21
Speaker 1: And Jeff, they haven't been real talented. They're talented this
28:24
Speaker 1: year though. I mean the forest Buck Darry is a beast.
28:27
Speaker 1: You know, Darius Lanard is really good. They got Xavier
28:30
Speaker 1: Rhodes are better on the back half. I mean, they
28:31
Speaker 1: have talent this year and that's why they're one of
28:32
Speaker 1: the best defense in the NFL. But it's a sound
28:35
Speaker 1: it's a sound scheme. It's you know, it's a cover
28:37
Speaker 1: to base scheme. They play, you know, mixed coverages but
28:39
Speaker 1: basically a bunch of cover too. And stopped to run
28:42
Speaker 1: with seven in the box and just say, try to
28:44
Speaker 1: beat us through with the past the game, which you
28:47
Speaker 1: know it's hard to do if you can stop to
28:49
Speaker 1: run with only seven in the box. Yeah. The uh,
28:52
Speaker 1: the the the guy that I kind of go back
28:56
Speaker 1: to and sit there and go, man, if a defensive
28:58
Speaker 1: coordinator can get performance that he did out of And
29:02
Speaker 1: it was the defensive vent that they signed from the
29:04
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Uh, the guy from a Stony or whatever
29:08
Speaker 1: that that hadn't played a whole lot of name. Yeah,
29:12
Speaker 1: I know that the big guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, three
29:20
Speaker 1: pounds and so anyway that the Bengals were playing him
29:24
Speaker 1: as a defensive vent when he comes over to the
29:26
Speaker 1: Colts and they move him in the ento the inside
29:29
Speaker 1: and playing defensive tackle and I'm talking, uh, Pro Bowl
29:34
Speaker 1: type level play that he that he gave the Colts
29:37
Speaker 1: for a couple of years there and incredibly strong and
29:40
Speaker 1: uh so, I mean it was a great job. I
29:42
Speaker 1: think of of transition a guy or moving a guy
29:45
Speaker 1: to utilize what a strengths were. And uh in fact,
29:49
Speaker 1: the Jaguars faced and he was with another team this
29:51
Speaker 1: year and then didn't last drawn a blake on his
29:54
Speaker 1: name there. Good game, yeah, good game tonight for sure. Um, Tony,
30:03
Speaker 1: would you like to lock Sunday's game at Lambeau? Now
30:07
Speaker 1: I'll pass on that, JP, okay, just asking. I'm just
30:10
Speaker 1: making sure giving you the option. They're just in case.
30:14
Speaker 1: I have a great to night, Tony. We'll catch you
30:16
Speaker 1: on Sunday. See everybody you guys. Tony Vaselli out of here,
30:22
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30:29
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Speaker 1: Moron discussing Aaron Rodgers, the Packers quarterback of course the
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35:09
Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman, Tony was SELLI out of here to get
35:12
Speaker 1: ready for Thursday night football. So all right, logs, let's
35:17
Speaker 1: say you're Todd wash the defensive coordinator. Are you bringing
35:22
Speaker 1: the heat? Are you laying back against Aaron Rodgers. That's
35:27
Speaker 1: a great question, and uh, and I don't think that
35:31
Speaker 1: the answer is one way or the other. I actually
35:33
Speaker 1: think that you have to be able to mix it
35:35
Speaker 1: up with Aaron Rodgers. And uh, if he's comfortable, he
35:41
Speaker 1: can make you pay. But and when I say if
35:44
Speaker 1: he's comfortable, if you're consistently doing the same thing, he
35:47
Speaker 1: can get very comfortable. And that's not a good thing.
35:50
Speaker 1: But if you try to do a lot of things
35:53
Speaker 1: to him, intricate things blitzes, you know, you you're playing
35:56
Speaker 1: zone dogs, you're plan cover zero blitzes, you're playing cover
35:59
Speaker 1: one blitzes, and you're playing a lot of different things.
36:03
Speaker 1: You know, I might give you a better chance of
36:05
Speaker 1: getting pressure. But the problem is is that when you
36:07
Speaker 1: do a lot, you run the risk of screwing it up.
36:12
Speaker 1: And when I say screwing it up, if you're doing
36:14
Speaker 1: a lot of things, then somebody is more than likely
36:18
Speaker 1: to miss an assignment. And if you miss an assignment
36:21
Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers, then it's not pretty. It's not pretty
36:26
Speaker 1: at all. The other challenging part I think about Aaron Rodgers.
36:30
Speaker 1: He's incredibly smart. He will utilize the herd count and uh,
36:36
Speaker 1: just because you're in a stadium with no fans, he
36:39
Speaker 1: still can use the hardcount, just like the Jaguars quarterback
36:43
Speaker 1: Ken but probably won't because he's young and he's too
36:46
Speaker 1: busy thinking about it the things. But Aaron Rodgers will
36:48
Speaker 1: use the herccount and rest assured if he gets you
36:52
Speaker 1: on the hardcount, he's throwing it deep. So uh. And
36:57
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has something with his all
37:00
Speaker 1: fans to where he only uses the hardcount when there's
37:03
Speaker 1: a deep route on the offensive design or what, but
37:06
Speaker 1: he uses it a lot of times when there is
37:07
Speaker 1: a deep route, and he will go to that deep
37:10
Speaker 1: ball every time if he gets you all sides, and
37:13
Speaker 1: that's just you know, sign up being one of the
37:15
Speaker 1: one of the great quarterbacks has ever played the game.
37:17
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, JP. He has the highest all
37:22
Speaker 1: time rating of any quarterback in NFL history. I mean,
37:26
Speaker 1: the guy has had an amazing career, no doubt about that.
37:31
Speaker 1: And you know the oddity of this season, remember earlier
37:34
Speaker 1: in the year he was getting guys offside on the
37:37
Speaker 1: hardcount on the road because there was nobody at some
37:39
Speaker 1: of the road games here. So it's the kind of
37:42
Speaker 1: an odd thing to see. But yeah, he'll he'll bring
37:45
Speaker 1: that out. There's no doubt he has the weapons certainly
37:48
Speaker 1: to throw it to. How about Davante Adams so far
37:51
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, and now how
37:54
Speaker 1: do you cover him? Do you put Henderson on him?
37:56
Speaker 1: One on one? Do you double him? What do you
37:58
Speaker 1: do with Davante? Well, I mean that's a great question.
38:02
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, last week you put C. J.
38:05
Speaker 1: Henderson on Will Fuller didn't work out so good, you know,
38:09
Speaker 1: So for me, I would rather double Davante Adam because
38:15
Speaker 1: I think the rest of the Packer wide receivers are
38:18
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are truggling, struggling to find
38:21
Speaker 1: their way. Now, well, Alan Lazard come back. He obviously
38:25
Speaker 1: made a lot of big plays for them. We know him.
38:27
Speaker 1: JP he was in Jacksonville on the practice squad, and
38:30
Speaker 1: the Packers signed him off for the Jaguars practice squad
38:33
Speaker 1: last year, and uh, they put him in that window
38:36
Speaker 1: where he could be elevated this week. So I'm not
38:39
Speaker 1: sure if he will be up or not. But yeah,
38:41
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of putting one guy on
38:44
Speaker 1: a Davante Adams when the rest of the receiving corps
38:48
Speaker 1: is a little bit limited. And to be perfectly honest
38:50
Speaker 1: with you, I didn't like the performance of c J.
38:53
Speaker 1: Henderson this past game. I didn't like the the effort
38:57
Speaker 1: at the very end of that long ball the Will Fuller.
39:01
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is Will Fuller
39:04
Speaker 1: is incredibly fat, obviously, and but so is c J. Henderson.
39:10
Speaker 1: And so when will Fuller comes back underneath and catches
39:12
Speaker 1: that ball to the inside, c J is is running
39:17
Speaker 1: stride for stride with him. Well, then will Fuller starts
39:20
Speaker 1: to kind of gear it down a little bit as
39:21
Speaker 1: he's approaching the end zone. Well, I don't understand why
39:26
Speaker 1: c J. Henderson didn't keep going and try to chop
39:31
Speaker 1: the ball out or something. Uh, it was almost like
39:35
Speaker 1: once he got inside the five, he was resigning to
39:37
Speaker 1: resign to the fact. Okay, he's gonna score touchdown and
39:40
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I can't do anything about it. I mean,
39:43
Speaker 1: be a competitor until the whistle blows. I mean, that's
39:47
Speaker 1: what I wanted to see on that play, JP and UH,
39:50
Speaker 1: And he's got to step his game up. In my opinion,
39:54
Speaker 1: I think he's capable of more. And I think he's
39:58
Speaker 1: capable of much more. The crazy thing is that we're
40:02
Speaker 1: talking about will Fuller here. On that play, the Packers
40:05
Speaker 1: tried to trade for will Fuller, and the reports were
40:11
Speaker 1: all out there and the solid reporting and solid uh
40:15
Speaker 1: sources that the pack almost got will Fuller. They just
40:19
Speaker 1: were just a little bit a part on the level
40:22
Speaker 1: of compensation. And can you imagine Aaron Rodgers with a
40:27
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and the speed of Wolf Fuller. Also, I mean,
40:32
Speaker 1: wow wow, I mean, I'm sure, I know, I know
40:36
Speaker 1: a lot of Packers fans are mad at Brian Gunk
40:39
Speaker 1: was the general manager. I think I said his name
40:41
Speaker 1: right of the Green Bay Packers because he wasn't able
40:43
Speaker 1: to pull off that trade, but it would have been
40:47
Speaker 1: wow wow. I mean, it could have made the Packers
40:49
Speaker 1: offense find another gear. Which is amazing because they're already
40:53
Speaker 1: playing at a pretty dug on high level, pretty good already.
40:58
Speaker 1: And they certainly have the running game as all Aaron
41:00
Speaker 1: Jones is back there can can carry it out of
41:03
Speaker 1: the backfield and and all that. You know. Obviously, one
41:06
Speaker 1: of the big points this week is Mercedes Lewis, and
41:10
Speaker 1: he's not a huge piece in the passing game for them. Obviously,
41:14
Speaker 1: he's big in the running. Yes, he caught a touchdown,
41:19
Speaker 1: but in this advanced age, I'll say that he's not
41:24
Speaker 1: going to go eighty yards on you. Let's put it
41:27
Speaker 1: that way. He is a red zone threat. He always
41:29
Speaker 1: has been. In his younger years. He could go the
41:32
Speaker 1: distance the long way, but we we knew him here
41:36
Speaker 1: as a blocking tight end towards the end of his
41:38
Speaker 1: time here especially, and you know, uh, this is one
41:42
Speaker 1: where you know he'll be ready to roll. And I
41:44
Speaker 1: would bet you, for entertainment purposes only that Nate Hackett
41:50
Speaker 1: has something up his sleeve if they're in the red
41:52
Speaker 1: zone for Mercedes Lewis. This week, we just saw the
41:56
Speaker 1: touchdown of Mercedes Lewis and it will is a one
42:01
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. And uh, here's Marcedes numbers on the year,
42:07
Speaker 1: he has four catches for thirty two yards and two touchdown,
42:12
Speaker 1: so he uh, his touchdown percentage is incredibly high. And uh,
42:20
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that if given the
42:24
Speaker 1: opportunity and they're in the in the tight red zone,
42:27
Speaker 1: because Marcedes is a is a big target. He's not
42:29
Speaker 1: a great receiver though, But if if Nathaniel Hackett has
42:33
Speaker 1: the opportunity the dial up of past Marcedes Lewis so
42:39
Speaker 1: that Marcedes can catch a touchdown against his old team
42:43
Speaker 1: that that I don't want to say discarded him, but
42:46
Speaker 1: moved on from him the other tight ends when Marcedes
42:50
Speaker 1: was still blocking and still playing at a pretty good level.
42:53
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Uh, he's gonna do it. And not
42:57
Speaker 1: for two reasons because you remember now noting Hackett got
43:00
Speaker 1: fired by the Jaguars and Marcedes was shown the door
43:05
Speaker 1: by the Jaguars. So I'm sure there's uh, lookay, we
43:09
Speaker 1: can all say that this is a business and you
43:12
Speaker 1: know and and you know you've moved on, and you know,
43:15
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about you know where I was. But
43:18
Speaker 1: you know what, JP, if you have an opportunity to
43:21
Speaker 1: to show somebody up that in your in the back
43:25
Speaker 1: of your mind. They did you wrong, You're gonna take
43:28
Speaker 1: advantage of it, and uh so I think you might
43:32
Speaker 1: be right, JP. So we'll see and we will have
43:36
Speaker 1: to see if he's available. The injury report has just
43:38
Speaker 1: come down, by the way, and he was limited yesterday
43:41
Speaker 1: with a knee issue and did not practice today. He's fine.
43:46
Speaker 1: He's been in the league for a long time. I
43:50
Speaker 1: would think things will will go well tomorrow and he'll
43:52
Speaker 1: be ready to roll on Sunday. That's my guess. Let's
43:56
Speaker 1: come back in a moment. We'll get into special teams
44:00
Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguar JP real quick, real quick. I
44:03
Speaker 1: just I just want to chime this in because I
44:07
Speaker 1: have an incredibly great memory about Marcedes Lewis, because I
44:12
Speaker 1: mean many of them. First of all, a wonderful guy,
44:17
Speaker 1: I mean, a number one first class individual that uh
44:24
Speaker 1: it's in my and my opinion, one of the all
44:27
Speaker 1: time great guys that have ever played for the Jaguars.
44:31
Speaker 1: The guy that was committed to the team, committed to
44:34
Speaker 1: the organization, was a true pro, worked hard, and the
44:40
Speaker 1: memory that I have of him on the field, I'll
44:43
Speaker 1: never forget this. He was the only guy that I
44:48
Speaker 1: remember when he was and I'm talking about Dwight Breeny now,
44:52
Speaker 1: when Freney was in his prime, he was the one
44:55
Speaker 1: of the few guys in the National Football League that
44:58
Speaker 1: could could block Dwight Freeney by himself. And I'm talking
45:04
Speaker 1: as as in past protection now and uh, nobody, nobody
45:10
Speaker 1: could do that against Dwight Freeney, but Marcedes couldn't. And uh,
45:15
Speaker 1: and it was it was something else to watch Marcedes
45:19
Speaker 1: blocked because and I know he learned from one of
45:22
Speaker 1: the best in Kyle Brady. Kyle Brady was an outstanding blocker.
45:25
Speaker 1: But I mean think about that that Marcedes won the
45:29
Speaker 1: Mackey Award for the top receiving tight end in the
45:32
Speaker 1: nation coming out of U C. L A. And then
45:35
Speaker 1: he comes to the NFL and sometimes it looks like
45:38
Speaker 1: he can't catch a cold because his hands are sometimes bad.
45:42
Speaker 1: But then he turns out to be one of the
45:45
Speaker 1: best blocking tight ends that has ever played in his era.
45:50
Speaker 1: And he was fun to watch and a true pro
45:52
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45:55
Speaker 1: that because I have a lot of respect for him.
45:58
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46:00
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49:44
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50:06
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50:19
Speaker 1: A A. Bank Field. Alright, so special teams. The Jaguars
50:24
Speaker 1: have signed another kicker, Chase McLoughlin. He's not officially on
50:28
Speaker 1: the roster until he clears the testing but I think
50:32
Speaker 1: the first day I can kick is Saturday, So here
50:35
Speaker 1: we go again. Josh Lambo's on injured reserve for the
50:38
Speaker 1: second time this year. That means he's done for the year.
50:41
Speaker 1: McLoughlin has not missed an extra point in his time
50:45
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's twenty six, eighteen and twenty three
50:49
Speaker 1: with field goals all during the season. Eleven career games Colts,
50:54
Speaker 1: Chargers and forty Niners. He's bounced around as an extra kicker,
50:58
Speaker 1: and he was on the Vikings practice squad. If he's
51:00
Speaker 1: cleared and ready to go, I'm almost losing count. I
51:04
Speaker 1: might have to take off my shoes and count my
51:06
Speaker 1: toes by the end of the year. How many kickers
51:08
Speaker 1: we've got, Yeah, pretty uh, pretty amazing if you think
51:12
Speaker 1: about it, and I mean we me and you were
51:14
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out earlier exactly how the the
51:18
Speaker 1: process went at kicker and this is the best we've
51:21
Speaker 1: been able to come up with. It went Lambeau, then
51:24
Speaker 1: Brandon Wright, then Rosas, then how Sha and then John
51:30
Speaker 1: Brown and then back to Lambeau for two games. One
51:35
Speaker 1: thing to remember too, that Chase McLoughlin signed and he
51:39
Speaker 1: has to go through I guess, uh, some of the
51:42
Speaker 1: COVID protocols. Not exactly sure why he has to be
51:47
Speaker 1: delayed for like five days because he had been in
51:50
Speaker 1: the COVID protocols and testing program with the Minnesota Viking,
51:54
Speaker 1: So don't fully understand that. But I guess just to
51:57
Speaker 1: travel from going from Minnesota to here requires him to
52:01
Speaker 1: the test for however long and be virus free whatever.
52:05
Speaker 1: But in the event that he's not cleared or something happens,
52:10
Speaker 1: then you can always elevate. We'll all be John Brown
52:14
Speaker 1: up from the practice and uh and then he could
52:17
Speaker 1: kick in Green Bay, so you know, so it could
52:20
Speaker 1: be uh yeah, so I mean it could be kicker
52:24
Speaker 1: number six, or it actually could be returning to one
52:28
Speaker 1: of the five kickers that you've already used, or you know,
52:32
Speaker 1: and in real emergency, Logan Cook could go out there.
52:36
Speaker 1: He has had a few reps from what I understand
52:39
Speaker 1: over this time that has happened. Last time he kicked
52:42
Speaker 1: in the game. Who's gonna hold for him? It would
52:45
Speaker 1: be Tyler Davis. So I understand at the backup tight
52:48
Speaker 1: end Tyler Davis, the rookie from Georgia Tech. Tyler Davis
52:53
Speaker 1: has got to be active but two weeks ago he
52:55
Speaker 1: wasn't even active. This pass gaming was active, so you
52:59
Speaker 1: know is all that? Yeah? I mean, so do you
53:03
Speaker 1: put glennon your only other backup quarterback that you have
53:07
Speaker 1: dressed that day in that situation where you know your
53:10
Speaker 1: putter could kicked the hand of your backup quarterback. I'm
53:14
Speaker 1: not a really big fan of that. So maybe they
53:17
Speaker 1: should let Cam Robinson be the holder. That'd be cool,
53:21
Speaker 1: just to do something different, right, I mean he wanted
53:24
Speaker 1: to cry try some crazy stuff. Well, here you go.
53:27
Speaker 1: That would be some that's crazy, that's for sure. It
53:30
Speaker 1: is staying on special teams. Chris Claybrooks had a pretty
53:35
Speaker 1: good return game last week. Yeah he Uh he did
53:39
Speaker 1: a good job, especially there when you had the potential
53:42
Speaker 1: game trying tying drive. He had a thirty nine yard
53:46
Speaker 1: kick return which was certainly a big play and uh,
53:51
Speaker 1: very nicely done. And uh there was two instances where
53:56
Speaker 1: he was the gunner and uh, I think I got
54:00
Speaker 1: that right. Was was it the thirty nine yarder on
54:02
Speaker 1: the potential game try tie and drive JP that clay
54:05
Speaker 1: Brooks had that return? I got I got. Let me
54:09
Speaker 1: reach around here and grab my little cheat sheet here. Uh,
54:13
Speaker 1: here we go. Um, I'll get out of my memory
54:19
Speaker 1: bank moment that. Yeah, he had a big return and
54:26
Speaker 1: I'll find it here in a minute. But it was
54:28
Speaker 1: not on the final drive. It was not on the
54:30
Speaker 1: final It wasn't. I didn't think it was. But but
54:32
Speaker 1: it's set up a potential scoring drive. The other thing
54:35
Speaker 1: that he did as the gunner, he had two down
54:39
Speaker 1: inside the tent. I think one was at the two
54:41
Speaker 1: and another one was at the six. The one thing
54:44
Speaker 1: that he did that I didn't like was that as
54:47
Speaker 1: a returner on that one punt return, he retreated like
54:50
Speaker 1: ten yards after making the catch and then he ended
54:53
Speaker 1: up getting tackled for a minus two yard return. And
54:57
Speaker 1: that's one of those things where I'm sure that actual
55:00
Speaker 1: teams coordinator Joe D. Camillis was going, what are you doing?
55:03
Speaker 1: What are you doing? And it probably wasn't that clean,
55:05
Speaker 1: but he was definitely probably not happy about retreating ten yards, right,
55:10
Speaker 1: That's that's how Joe D does it sometimes. So that's
55:13
Speaker 1: okay as long as the message gets across, that's for sure.
55:17
Speaker 1: So we'll see what the special team this week. Yes,
55:21
Speaker 1: I got I gotta interrupt you. There was the thirty
55:23
Speaker 1: nine yard or was the one before the half that
55:27
Speaker 1: led to the fifty nine yard Josh Lambeau field goal.
55:31
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Yes, let's let's get
55:34
Speaker 1: some more of those this week. Big returns. I think
55:37
Speaker 1: that's what this game calls for. Log says, you'll need
55:40
Speaker 1: like a you know, a couple of takeaways, good defensive
55:44
Speaker 1: play obviously, and the special teams play to flip the
55:48
Speaker 1: field would be nice. Get some short fields in there,
55:50
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, we could call for that a
55:52
Speaker 1: lot of weeks, but I think this is a week
55:54
Speaker 1: where you could use some of that stuff. Yeah. The
55:59
Speaker 1: the one area that you just mentioned that is going
56:01
Speaker 1: to be incredibly tough. You mentioned takeaways. Uh yeah, I
56:09
Speaker 1: mean look, uh Green Bay Packers. I mean, and here's
56:13
Speaker 1: the number JP they are number one in the National
56:18
Speaker 1: Football League. Is an offense with the fewest giveaways, which
56:22
Speaker 1: is three. Aaron Rodgers has twenty five touchdowns only two interceptions.
56:29
Speaker 1: As a patrick should be twenty four touchdowns two interceptions.
56:33
Speaker 1: That's a twelve to one ratio touchdown interception ratio. That's
56:36
Speaker 1: pretty dog gone good. They also only have one fumble loss,
56:40
Speaker 1: so the three giveaways is an offense is number one
56:43
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. So if you're gonna try
56:47
Speaker 1: to get takeaways, and I'm not saying that you just
56:49
Speaker 1: don't try, but I mean this is that's a tough ask.
56:51
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a football team that protects the
56:54
Speaker 1: football very well. Aaron Rodgers has historically been outstand in
57:00
Speaker 1: at protecting the football. In fact, I had a conversation
57:04
Speaker 1: with Mark Brunell earlier this week and I posed a
57:07
Speaker 1: question to him. You know, if if you were a
57:09
Speaker 1: young GM or a young head coach and you had
57:12
Speaker 1: your choice of a young Brett Farve or a young
57:16
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who are you going to take? And he
57:18
Speaker 1: said Aaron Rodgers. And the reason why, he said, because
57:23
Speaker 1: he can do so many different things, but most importantly
57:26
Speaker 1: protects the football. Whereas Brett Farve, even though I mean
57:29
Speaker 1: we're talking Hall of Famer, you know it was known
57:31
Speaker 1: at times for being a little bit careless with the
57:34
Speaker 1: football and kind of a gun slinger. So you know, so,
57:38
Speaker 1: I mean, coming from another quarterback, that's a pretty strong statement. Yeah.
57:43
Speaker 1: Farve would would force it into that window, whether the
57:46
Speaker 1: window is open or not. And he has the old
57:48
Speaker 1: time interception number in the NFL. So yeah, I've gotta
57:52
Speaker 1: with you, Brunel on that choice there if you had
57:54
Speaker 1: to pick between those two right now. So, hey, tough
57:58
Speaker 1: matchup this week for the Jazz. But go up there,
58:01
Speaker 1: play your best game, right logs and and see where
58:03
Speaker 1: the chips fall at the end of the day at Lambeau, Right,
58:05
Speaker 1: And that's all you can do. Now, go up and
58:07
Speaker 1: play and see how you can compete against one of
58:09
Speaker 1: the best who who had the line the head coach.
58:13
Speaker 1: That's why you play the game, herm Edwards was her
58:16
Speaker 1: play to win the game. You play to win the game.
58:20
Speaker 1: Play to win the game. And chat wars are gonna
58:24
Speaker 1: do just that, you know, I think that this is
58:26
Speaker 1: a game JP that when you talk about doing some
58:30
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Uh. I mean, look, when you're playing a
58:34
Speaker 1: really good football team and you're in their venue, uh,
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Speaker 1: you might think about doing something fancy, you know, and
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Speaker 1: trying to catch them off guard, you know. So I
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Speaker 1: mean it's look, you're playing a great team, you might
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Speaker 1: go for uh it on fourth down maybe more than
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Speaker 1: you would and in other situations just because you know, Look,
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Speaker 1: you're when you're playing quality team and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: what do you have to lose? Uh? Sometimes you know,
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Speaker 1: let it all hang out. Why not? Why not? You
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Speaker 1: gotta swing the bat and we'll see if they can
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Speaker 1: do that this week at lambeau Field. That will do
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