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Episode 194 | Pappy · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: Early and on time, we die you think it is a grind up thing, we die.
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: You think it is a grind up thing, we die.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: You think it is a back and all thing, we die well then you lie, lie, lie, lie lie you think it is a?
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: one one thing we die.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: You think it is a two months thing.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: And it's a tempting path for business.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: How come the people accept this and nobody never correct it?
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: Guys, get up and see.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: If you're interested, I'll preach us time to practice.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: Every day me read every day me write Songs and singing is all about life.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: We need music like we need Christ, inna the morning, inna, the night Season finish and you take off your light.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Another music going to ignite.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: No part time, we're doing it for life.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: All that rock we come to make.
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: right, I said you think it is a wine of king, we die.
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: You think it is a dry of king we die.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: You think it is a vodka nighting we die.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: Well then you lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: You think it's a one month thing, we die.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: You think it's a two month thing, we die.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: You think it's a season thing, we die.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Well then, you lie.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 190, I feel as I do 194, 195.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: You think this is a counting thing with Ayo?
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: You think this is a preparation with Ayo?
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Why, bye, why are you just rolling in on me?
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Bye, good night son, bye, I love you.
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: I love you son Every night.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: you don't come and say good, son, bye, I love you.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, every night you don't come and say goodnight, yeah, I'm recording.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: You come out goodnight.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: How was your first week of school?
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Tiring, don't make me go back.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Boy bye, go in your bed.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: He's done this man don't come and check me when I'm in here.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: He don't come and say nothing.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden he comes and say goodnight like a camera.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: Boy bye, you don't say no, goodnight every night.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: What I was talking about?
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: Again, I think it's episode 195, as we slowly turn the corner towards 200.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: 194, 194, russian in brush.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 194 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Welcome to all the new listeners.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: How are they feeling?
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: How are they going?
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you see, one man done talk about his week back to school, right, and as I say, the week back to school I think the parents is the one who suffered.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: Last week was very, very rough on me.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: You see, they're driving through traffic and as soon as you drop them, it's time to pick them back up.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, anybody have a number for yellow bus?
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: I need a yellow bus, I need a yellow bus.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: I can't do the drop and pick up thing too much.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: But first, first man, first weekend, fatty boy man, men settling in parents settling in palestine.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: He's back out of school, he's back on the grind, september grind, right.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: And it's amazing how quickly, when september come, christmas has in.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: So salute to NPAT and everybody in the Parang Association, or all Parang there, whether it's our rum side or our true, true Parang side.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Men warming up, men tuning in, you know what I mean.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: Saturday night I got a call to go by my good friend Majo from Blue Basin what is that?
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: It's Blue Basin or Bagatelle, one of the two?
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: I'm in Blue Basin, what is that?
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: It's Blue Basin or Bagatelle, one of the two?
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: To play a little music.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: It's nice to pick up with men like Boye and Skaro Skaro, never come Boye and Molly Berry and these fellas.
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: Nice, nice time.
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm officially in Parang mode, I'm looking for Parang side, and when I say looking right, I want it to be known that I'm not um, it's not like a whole lot of doing to say I'm looking for a parent side.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: I just, I just put it out into the atmosphere and hopefully somebody, somebody called me.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: But if I wasn't sure about moving back in town, I sure about it now, after that first week of school.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad I'm here and I'm finding my bearings back in town again.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: I want to tell you like a blast from the past.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: Right when I was a a young man, I used to go by jim and sin james, named daway jim, and if I'm sin james you can remember daway jim.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Right, where's the rusty old iron?
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: You listen, calves cast iron.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: It is where you're going and living.
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: The biggest man and the strongest man in the, the biggest and strongest man in the gym, was a man by the name of emerson and a fellow by the name of Crazy Paul.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: You know, life had to be good when your nickname is Crazy Paul.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: Right, you just picture Crazy Paul in your mind, but Crazy Paul and him living a crazy amount of weight and I bonk.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: So, wrong guys.
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: At a young age I was in the gym, you know.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: And then, well, it doesn't show, right, it don't really show, but you had to take my word for it.
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: But I find my way right back to long circular gym which is home base, home base, and back to training with a guy by the name of chana.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: You see, you had to be in and around st james and channel is a whole country man, right, you had to be around these parts to know why people just end up named crazy paul and chana and these kind of things, right.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: But back to training the channel, and it feels good to be back back up on this side and I realized too that before I jump into the topics of the week, right, I used to say that because we in Chagonas, you know, there's been plenty of effort.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: I remember the last Kula Fet we went, we had to leave home all over the morning at our breakfast party, right?
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: So all over the morning we in our ride share one, two in the morning to come to meet my partner, partner damien, and I said, girl, I ain't know if this should go on a sting, I ain't going.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: No more of these breakfast party, you know, because that was probably rising rose or soka or one of them.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: And I say I ain't doing this again.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm leaving home early, early morning, I'm tired.
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: I used to enjoy breakfast parties more than quote-unquote regular parties, because I'm that kind of morning fella anyway, so I could get up in the morning, do what I had to do and and not lose the whole day like when I'm 15 the night I just I wake up 6, 7 the next day.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: I can't take that again.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: 6, 7 pm, that is.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: But I realize it had nothing to do with living central.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: His age it's just being old, because I live in, I live in town and I ain't do one thing.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Not one thing happened since I live in and it's not like if I leave it home.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Just the way I was feeling when I was in Chagonas and people called me to leave home is the exact same way I feel it now.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: It's sad, it's sad.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: It's sad.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: I'm embracing.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: I'm embracing Mowlid now.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: Trinidad and Tobago is a place where school reopening has always come with a little bit of sauce.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: Right, they always have a little bit of sauce when schools reopen, because when time school closing between tutor, the ministry, education, the parents, parent, teachers, association, whoever in opposition and whoever is the third parties, everybody, the occupational, health and safety people, everybody's be earmarking schools and the amount of work that had to be done in schools, right, and then the ministry, as politicians would tend to do, is come out and say well, here was the situation, we will get that fixed.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: And over the July-August vacation in particular, schools tend to take on either major repairs or rebuilding or adding wing, of course, because children are going to be home for two months and it's the time to get the job done.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Now, if you ever deal with anything where construction is concerned, two months is an aggressive timeline.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: To do anything in construction, even home by you, two months is kind of aggressive, right.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: If you had to add on a bedroom by you or do some renovations two months, you know how the two months go.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: A day the man show up, he ain't come.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: Rainfall the other thing he had to do over your roof it tends to stretch out a little longer than normal and I can't imagine while a corporation or a government think about the same kind of problems.
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: We had a plumber in St James, right, I'm not going to call any names, but he was famous for coming by you, busting your wall to open to fix whatever pipe it is and then riding out.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: Anybody from St James knows the name, right.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: He used to bust your is and then write the note anybody from St James know the name, right, he used to bust your wall and then he gone because he taking about five, six, seven, eight different work and he know when your wall busts you ain't calling no next plumber to fix that.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: So what should be a one-day job?
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: He think it's just a one-day job without you.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: He taking about a week to finish that work right.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: They also had a, a mechanic on anderson street in st james when he reached by, when he reached by him the morning I ain't calling no name right but what he used to do is open everybody bonnet and like disconnect something.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: So no matter what you come to fix, you can't move.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: So it's a whole lime hole there and this is shooted by him.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: Call name, I go whistle.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: But in a big, when you deal with big contractors and thing, you're not gonna have them kind of issues right, because you know people who are big staff and you know, but they will still run into issues or can run into issues where they're going to be cost overruns, they're going to be delays, weather, it's all kind of different things happening.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: So I saw last week a clip I can't remember if I talked about it last week or not, but a clip with the minister of education.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Who's minister?
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Education?
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Again, nine gatsby dolly, uh, I hope I have the right name.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: I'll correct it if I don't have it right, but I think it was who and a little bit of a face-off with saddam hussein.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: And who?
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: A lady would have been the the head of the parent teachers association.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: I want to say no, nangazbi dolly, oh, why are you saying that?
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: I?
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: I have all this.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: I have all this wrong nangazbi dolly are saying he has community development.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Who the hell is the minister education?
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: You think it is a preparation.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: You think it is minister of education?
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something right until I get my stuff fixed here, I can't.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: I can't really edit.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's, she's minister education.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: My words were saying I seen minister education here listed as nine gatsby dolly, but when you google her name she's showing us culture.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's a reshuffle or something.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: But I saw a face-off between her and saddam hussein, who is the mp for the area over uh bar, a school in barataria I think it's in georgia's, is it?
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: And they had to move.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: They had to move the school to uh utt in valsane because of the issues they had with the school, and it ended up being a whole situation when they went back, because they called for the opening of the school and it was clear that the school wasn't ready to open.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: They were complaining about rat droppings all over the place, rusty furniture, parts of the school unfinished and the minister now put in a situation where she had to defend this thing and it's a rough position to be in.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: I would imagine that whoever is her second and her third and her support people when she reached back in the car, people must get good cuss up, you know what I mean.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: People must get good cuss for embarrassing the woman, mean people.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: People must get good cuss for embarrassing the woman.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: But it's clear that the school wasn't ready to open and it tends to be a normal or every september, like I could airmark an episode in september where we'll talk about this.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: I see in here frustration at mount hope secondary right.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: This right, this is on September 3rd.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: This is from the Express.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: A group of parents of students attending Mount Hope Secondary School said yesterday that their children are returning to a facility with a plethora of structural issues.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: The parents believe that they are pleased to the Ministry of Education for better learning conditions at a 52-year-old school.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Last term During the July and August holidays fell on deaf ears, as they claim, nothing was done by the ministry to address any of their concerns.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: A group of parents led by Interim President of the School's Parent Teacher Association, merrill Rodney, and tutor President Martin Lumpkin, gathered outside the dilapidated looking school in Monk's Hope to voice the disappointment.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Rodney said the school ceilings and classroom furniture were infested with wood lice and that the Osher people had cordoned off part of the school because it's a health hazard, part of the stairwell rotting away.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: The children are the ones who are suffering.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: My daughter is in Form 5 and because they cordoned off the area it will affect her and this is her last year in school.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: Rodney said.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: The frustrated father said that students were in danger of being electrocuted in the ia block.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Guys in australia, that's right in the ia block because loose wires were exposed in the classes which also had the tendency to flood.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Rodney said that both he and the parents have written to the ministry to have the issues uh addressed.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Apart from the ministry to have the issues addressed, apart from the structural issues at the school.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: He said there were no cleaners to maintain the premises.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: We have to come and clean up this school and everything.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: It's not fair.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: We are the only school that doesn't have MTS maintenance and it's very appalling, rodney said.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Lumpkin said a part of the IA block was cordoned off by the OSHA agency.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Also issued improvement notices for a part of the IA block was cordoned off by the OSHA agency.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Also, uh issued improvement notices for various areas of the school.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: The principal had to shut down one block because the ceiling in three out of the four classrooms in the form tree block had collapsed and she had taken her care of duty seriously.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Is the ministry of education taking their duty of care care of duty or duty of care, duty of cares, as when it comes to the school?
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: She had to find classrooms to house the children.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: He stressed it's almost more the same.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Coincidentally, I had a meeting.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I remember Neola Zama had a meeting with Neola this week and I was telling Neola I was looking for some information to send to Neola and when I plan out these episodes I typically have a little powerpoint.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: So when you see me struggling to read, it's usually a powerpoint or the papers are trying to read from right.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: And when I pulled it up, I saw, uh, powerpoint for last year or if it's in last year's year before or whatever year we come out of covid, if it's not last year's year before, when schools had reopened, and it was the same exact thing we come here and talk about, where they had issues with the reopening as a school at the time.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Uh, also, you could almost mirror this that every time you're going back out to school in september, which is the longest term coming off, the longest vacation you tend to have.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: You tend to have major issues like these and the thing about this is this it will always be a a boasting point for the minister of education to say, okay, well, we're going to get all schools fixed.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I guess that's what you had to say, right, when you read all the proposals.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: All the construction companies send you this, that that's on the turn.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: You had to come out and say that, like, if you know, I mean, we're gonna, we have it under control.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I suppose what I say as a minister and it's almost like the opposite is the case as well.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Where the, the opposition, whoever gonna run against not necessarily the official opposition, but whoever running against, or the anti-government people or anti-party in government people they're going to use this as the opportunity to come and say, hey, only in the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Well, minister, why are we here?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Is it clear that the school not ready to open?
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Why are we here?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Why didn't postpone the opening and so on?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And the minister under pressure point I'm making, is this right?
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes the we get so focused on the thing and the, the politicizing or the or the or the who, who do good and who do bad, that it's almost like we forget the children in the mix.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: It's almost like it seems to be that we're in this position every year and nobody willing to come together and say, all right, let me figure out how we could do this.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Two months is clearly not enough to do these things.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Some of these schools is 50 years old.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: For instance, I remember going to Newtown Boys.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Salute everybody who went to Newtown right.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Salute everybody who claimed they went to Newtown too, who never went to Newtown right.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: It seemed to be a popular thing to do when you went from a lease and thing to say you went to Newtown right, but Newtown Boys, when I was there was a very old school right, and it was a common thing in classroom for pigeon droppings because them things was built in the colonial times.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Same thing was trying to change.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: It was those types of buildings right, very, very high ceilings.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: The schools used to be built just like kind of like churches, where it was about the acoustics and getting your voice out and it was about, uh, air flowing through the building.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: If you notice a lot of the ways those buildings were designed, really so that there's a good air circulation and good acoustics, but that was long before it had microphone, like these, like, I'll tell you this, the acoustics in this room terrible, I can't stand to hear it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: But when I listen back to the episodes it does sound like that at all, because we have good, good microphone now.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Like, like, even I keep following Vibes Cartel, right, even Vibes Cartel has seen he was in Panama recently and they show him recording a song with his son.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: And if you remember back in the day when you go to studios, right, if you ever went to a studio, if you see any videos online where people in a studio it used to be a song-proof booth, and if you didn't know, like those booths, if you didn't know, like those boots, you couldn't put air conditioning in the booth because of the humming of the air condition, because the mics would pick it up and so you had to go in there.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So when you see artists in a room sweating because they're trying to record, is because that booth, that recording booth, had no air condition.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's hot when you're in a recording booth and, um, no, like in this room, I ain't know the air condition loud.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You might believe it but it's very, very loud.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Sometimes be worried if people hearing it and that kind of thing.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: But the point I'm making is car telling them going and recording.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: A man just setting up a mic, right, and it looked like a hotel room.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I seen dub plates or recordings being done inside a car.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: You know you just have a mic, the whole mic, and they do it and that coming out as studio what would have been studio quality recordings back then.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: When you build a studio now you don't need to put in a songproof booth and double doors.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: They used to have a double door thing to keep all the sound them days done.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So when you look at the way schools and all the buildings we had designed for that purpose, it was just because the technology wasn't there yet.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So the building itself was taking care of them technological needs so that one person could stand up and address the whole place and everybody could hear them kind of thing.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: If you talk to sound engineers and people in that field now, one of the more difficult things they have now is to put speakers and thing in them kind of spaces, because now the there is so much a glass and so much a pecs, a roof, if that's the right word I'm using that the song bouncing all about.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: So we really have a whole bunch of facilities.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's almost like we're in this period of independence and republic and we're celebrating the advancement out of colonial life and we're changing the artifacts of colonialism.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But one of the things we have to keep in mind is that, again, if you keep the purpose of the thing, the purpose of the school is for education, for the children, that's for the betterment of the country as a whole in many, many years to come, and that's a key when you're talking about crime and youth delinquency and christmas, let's have to lock up again and deport again and then lock up again and deport again.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: A big part of our way out of it or curbing this thing is the schools.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: So it can't be that the schools become a political football when the issue is deeper than whether the government there's any pnm better.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: We can and they can't open too much.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Our school is not that a lot of the things not fit for structure and they're not fit for purpose.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: We in a transition period as a nation, so what, what?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: What I would like to see is where somebody assess these different spaces.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Because when I look at, or I'll tell you my experience, when I went to newton boys and we were in a school church kind of building old, old building newton gills was being rebuilt and when newton gills was rebuilt, the choir and everybody used to go over there like that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: A music teacher by the name of miss dicoto used to go there to do piano with miss dicoto and learn and practice his songs and rehearse and all these things right over in newton hills.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Now that school and I talk about 1990 a little bit, right, I talk about before the coup, right, that school was more built for modern, modern for that time, right, and uh, even the the look of the building and so on.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: If you pass by the building now, well, but if you pass there now, you'll see that both, uh, new town boys was also rebuilt with a lot of donations and um walkathon sheets and so on that we would have submitted over the years.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But all all those things were done now to make it like that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: So if we have a committee, I don't care if the committee is government ministers, opposition, osha people, tutor people, psa not PSA PTA people, whoever is the right committee, including some people who are just neutral and want to see the place become a better place, who come and sit down and they watch all the schools and they watch all the facilities we have and they say, you see, these schools, this had to break down.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: This is not a two-month project.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: This is a school that had to demolish and rebuild, or even to look at it and say, like I always remember going, um, I was going by my sister in maryland and I was looking at her picking up her son from school.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Right, and I don't like to do these things where I compare Trinidad to the States, right, but I do like best practice.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I find you must always look for best practice and see the differences.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So I drop Zachary and Fatima in the morning and you drive down what would be Mokorapo Road kind of thing and all the people who trying to drop off the children there pulling aside on the road, including myself.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You just point an indicator and I tell Zachary do quick, do quick, do quick, come on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Is that kind of?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Is that rough kind of like?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Almost kick them out the car that morning and some of the people who are coming from the east, for instance, might turn on to where you would drive like if you're going into Fatima grounds.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: For people who don't know it is a is a sort of parking lot opposite Fatima, barely a parking lot, right, but you could drive up there and probably drop out your child there, then come out.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: But I remember her going and pick up her son then or drop him off to school or whatever it was, and you could see that the process of dropping off the children and picking up the children was thought out in the design of the school.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So they designed it in such a way that the school buses will pass here.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: There will be a lineup.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: So instead of having the lineup on the government road where everybody else who have nothing to do with dropping a child to school is going to end up there, it's almost like you have a drive through the car park, going down and up there they take.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's almost like you have a drive through the car park so that all the people who lining up to drop off children coming through the car park and coming off the government road and then you could go up to the front where you drop your child off to the school and you could see them when they walk off and all these different things.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: So it's like going back to san fernando boys.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: When you go down, drop, drop San Fernando Boys if you don't know, fatima, right, san Fernando Boys is on Harris Promenade.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Relator.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: We love Harris Promenade, right, and it's the same thing.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I think they have San Fernando Boys, I think it's Anglican School Summer Riders.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: They have St Gabriel's Guilds on the next side.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I think they have Convent on the next sidevent on the next side too.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Four schools in one area gave the police a headache on the morning because all like Pallastasian, who want to cry when they see the child in the uniform for the first time, they want to see the child walk in the class and all these things.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It's just creating traffic and again, remember that these things built that promenade, built in colonial times by colonial people when it didn't have them set a car and things.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So it made sense for all the schools to be very close together because most of the people who would be coming to pick up children would be walking or traveling with donkey cars and all that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: But they were walking and they were traveling.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So it was the centralization of schools made sense for the time, if we could take the best practice that I'm describing for the schools abroad and say, well, all right, here we go, so build a school here.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Really don't just need the building and a little ground so, man to sell soak, sell snow cone and them kind of thing right there and sell pie and all this kind of thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Right where need is a certain amount of acreage so that you have a school that housing x amount of people, because this community look at chagonas as an example again chagonas real grew over the years.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So you have this community you build a school that houses an X amount of people because this community look at Chagones as an example again Chagones has grown over the years.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So you have this community you build a school with that kind of acreage.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: You create enough parking for when all your PTA meeting and teachers, they have parking for that and you could come off the road, drive in, drop your school.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, that one floor, traffic and everybody, and make the whole thing a little bit easier.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: But everybody and make the whole thing a little bit easier.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: But sometimes I don't know it, it, it it seems as though sometimes in this country it's easier to blame one another and look at who do what and who do what for this?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: For my opinion, the sole purpose of scoring more and more political points rather than try to fix the system for the benefit of the people who the system was really made for.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I like how people is throw around things like the children are the future and this and that and the other, and then do things that are completely counterintuitive to that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But anyway, every time I come to talk about these kind of things, I always remember that it ain't gonna be my last opportunity to talk about it, because this will happen again.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back here next year, next.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: But next year when school opening, we in election season, so you know no self in september, somebody looking to waste down somebody and somebody looking to make excuse for something or another.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Uh, I think it's just the way of the world at this point in time.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It's kind of sad when you think about it, but again, I know that's all about it for too long because we go right back here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I want to get to the purpose of this episode and the greater purpose of this podcast as a whole.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We have to celebrate in life.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Celebrate in life for the great, great, great, great right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Keep I've, I've, I've attuned to play for.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I've great great Roy Cape, I've had a tune to play for you.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I've had a dig in the archive sometimes to find some things, because I always talk about the difficulty in doing things like this and how little information you could get about some people.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: At some times it's difficult to find a lot of information about some of the greatest people in our musical or cultural landscape and I would assume that is the same for the business landscape, the political landscape.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think we are the best at archiving.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: My mother was telling me this week that John Gill had done a dedication episode to Roy Cape.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're on that rock, you know that great Roy Cape, the great one passed away last week and the tributes, the dedications, the respect, the memories they keep pouring in for him.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And there's something that I've seen online that I find is we had to address differently or do better with, because the shock and surprise we have sometimes when you see youths don't know who is Roy Keep.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing this on MYOB, which I would assume that the audience that following MYOB or listening to or following MYOB and their posts and the the theme they go down the road that MYOB goes down.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I would think that is mostly young people listening there, right, and I keep saying listening, I think about the podcast and all, but it's young people following that page and you find that in the comments when they post Roy Cape and the thing I see they have a picture going around with Roy Cape and Stalin.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: To my boy, tarek was talking, sending my picture with Roy Cape, stalin and who I want to believe is Valentino, I ain't sure.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But you see, any comment section is asking like who he?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Because of course they're seeing a picture of somebody they don't know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: They've seen a whole set of comments and it's like, well, who that?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And people basically wasting that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking like why, why we do this with with young people if, if younger people don't know who is roy cape.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: This is a great opportunity, as sad as it is, and condolences, of course, and respect his family, but it's a good opportunity for people to get to know him.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I saw flowing in on on about roy cape, in terms of the dedications and what people, what people had to say about him one of the common themes is how he, as a person, embrace young people.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: You see it, no matter who it is, look, look, look for yourself right at every artist who talk about roy cape and, uh, what he meant to them, and one of the things you will see is that he's humble, gracious, always willing to teach, always willing to explain, very, very patient with people.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So when you now come in the business and you have to learn, they say Roy Cape is one of the men who will teach you anything that he learned, give you all the guidance that you need, and so on.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So, even if it's in honor of the great roy cape, why not take that opportunity to help you to understand, help you to learn right?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: He was a great educator like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I was watching several interviews with him this week and you know what stood out about him.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He had a respect for the education.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Like somebody had asked him a question about what would you tell young people who want to make a band or young people who want to get into production and music?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And the first thing he says anywhere you find a music school, join that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Anywhere you go.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I was just telling some little, some little more about arian.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I saw him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: There's a.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Arian is a producer.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, he's doing a little work with voice talent and production, ads and so on.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Right, and I saw him in gym this morning.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually saw him on his instagram.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: He was saying the same thing too.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: He was telling people about voice acting.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Like if you want to get into reading ads and voicing, as the first thing he says, find yourself a school, any one of these schools, a little star broadcasting, find yourself a school where you could learn broadcasting.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: He said, if people tell you have a nice voice and you're saying, you said go to school and and and and, advance it, hone it, hone your talent, understand the business.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And that was the first thing that roy keep said to roy keep say boy, listen, you're going and save yourself plenty time and plenty frustration by just joining a school and learning music properly.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Learning how to sight read is what he was talking about and it's such an instructive thing.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And in his legacy and in his honor, one of the things that we should do as people who is we age is don't get vexed with no youth if they never hear about roy cape and they don't know who is roy cape.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind that roy cape was easily a very, very behind the scenes man as a band leader and thing as.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: In fact, my experience seeing him over the years was one where I remember the first time I hear Roy Cape say something.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: He used to be the band leader for well, roy Cape on the long before All Stars right, it was just Roy Cape.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Roy Cape, the band was what I had known it as.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm wrong about that, but I remember seeing him in Calypso Spectacular and he was a meek figure saying don't ride behind every artist that come on, and the band was tight.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine how good he had to be as an instrumentalist and as a player in a band when you had to play for 20-something 30 Calypsonians who come in.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: You know how much you ought to rehearse and have them songs right for people.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Or go and play on the mash ground night with men winning loud, money or a lot at stake.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You ought to go and play for everybody from Spectacular who go into the mash ground.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: These are proper, well, well-rehearsed musicians and when you see them in the Calypso tent and them thing you never use a hero, hear Roy Cape say anything.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I remember Tommy Joseph and them started getting him to say little things and get up and dance and acknowledge him and that kind of thing, and that's how we know him from seeing him throughout the years.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind as well that by the time youth starts them, fellas is 20-something years old and they're young by the time they come out.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: They might only know Roy Cape or care about it in the soccer world.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So when they hear Roy Cape and the All-Stars but keep in mind that the band had changed its name to All-Stars Band as well Tells you something about the man to it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Because when somebody genuinely interested in education a big part of an educator's life is to pass things on, and I think the move I remember when they were talking about the band is no longer roy keep and the all-stars, just all-stars, I suppose, as roy keep stepped down from all that performing all over the place with the band, I I saw it as a way of handing over and, you know, taking the spotlight, because it's a hard.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a big shadow cast over here and I wanted to look in particular at tributes from a few, a few artists who were with all stars over the years.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: The the, the first one that I that that I saw when he passed away was from destra right, because if people would remember the uh, roy cape, destra would have come out with roy cape.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: At the time, dest Destro was a Roy Cape artist.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: She make her name in Roy Cape singing as a front-line band singer long before she had her own hit something.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I want to read a little bit about what Destro had posted there.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: She said Papi, everybody know him as Papi, the industry people know him as Papi, I myself and the fans know him as roy cape, right?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So she said.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: She posted a picture of him celebrating his 80th birthday, full of life.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Still, you know, say papi, I knew this day would come and although I premeditated this moment so many times, I still wasn't ready yesterday.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It looks so peaceful, lying there, like a beautiful sleeping angel, and though I am unable to get that image out of my head, this is how I always want to remember you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: She referring to the 80th birthday party.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I've lost a father.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I have no more words, only tears.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I will love you forever.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you for everything.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Sleep in peace.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: When you, when you hear, when you hear destra talk about uh, about papi, or about, about roy cape, it tells you something about his.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes that whole idea of legacy is a funny thing, you know you might feel.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you feel as though at least let me talk for myself you feel as though, as you're getting older, you start to think about what life is going to be like when you're not here.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But one of the things I don't think we realize is that everything we do in life, from when we was little children, is a part of the legacy that we leave in for other people to follow, a part that we create in for other people to follow.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I kept talking in an interview about leaving home for the first time and his mother getting tuberculosis.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: He said tuberculosis was like cancer in them days they don't kill and his mother passed away when he was young and he was given the option.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: He's like listen, go in grenada by your mother and them family your mother was from grenada or go in the orphanage.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: And he chose the orphanage.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: He said he lived on the streets for a little while.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: He think he'd go on in the orphanage and he always had a love for music.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: He said his mother didn't have the same love for music that he had.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: His mother found his noise, but in the orphanage is where he was able to hone his skill and so on, the start of playing pan and was able to hone his skill as a, as a musician in the, in the, in the orphanage and as a saxophonist right, I just want to talk like if somebody here in for the first time, right, just in case I want to read again from Ola Tunji, because Ola Tunji is another one of them who came out under.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Ola Tunji is somebody who at a point in time people, people used to say Ola Tunji would have never bust right, he used to sing for Roy Cape.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: He had a kind of style, the same style he had now, but it was very, very new.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: When he first come onto the scene, all that sort of Michael Jackson dancing and just sweating and spinning, it used to look like if and under Roy Cape.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: When you see what he was able to do with talent and the amount of talent that passed through his band and even in his transition from being a man I don't like to make any distinction between Calypso and Soka, but when you see him from the Calypso tent transition into a band that playing big band music and fits alongside Blue Ventures and Ecstatic and Traffic and Atlantic and all of them, it was a force to reckon with.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Don't forget, blacks is one of them, people.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: When you hear Blacks talk about a matter of fact, when you hear Blacks papi, it really sound like papi, you know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So I was posting the picture with, with um, roy cape and stalin today and ketura's little ketura, I'd reach out to man she said, boy, the best friends reunited.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And I remember when stalin was sick.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: You have many, many images and videos from when, from stalin's funeral, with roy cape dancing, singing black man Feeling to Party.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: That's something else to see.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like that man who was in the mix, right?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I always wonder about this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a musician, he's an artist.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You come up with a song, I might work on that song with you, I might rehearse with you.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So long before the public hear the song, only hearing the song, a rehearsal, so long before the public hear the song, only hearing this song.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So when I see roy cape dancing to black man feeling to party and starling wedding has, wonder like what going through them, fellas mind, are they picturing, like studio sessions?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Or picturing the first time they had to rehearse this song and realize that they had something?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: You know, it's such a, it's a thing that I marvel at a lot, you know, trying to figure out, like well, what's in this man's mind.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I read in a quick one from Ula Tunji, as Ula Tunji could only say it Papi Dunks, fly high, dunks, love you.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Papi Dunks, voice more pics.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So, when you look at what the impact that he would have had, and, of course, a, a beautiful tribute from, uh, michael mondesi as well, who is one of the, I would say I would say, cultural ambassadors, right, many, many tributes and many articles written about him.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: But michael mondesi have a way, all you know, that is my favorite term, my favorite journalist, right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: So let me get to Michael Mondesi.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: This is from the 7th of September.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: He say who would think a boy from the orphanage could get doctorate?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And thing I don't want us to forget, right, that little clip I play in the beginning, with him playing the saxophone, was on his on his receiving of a doctorate from the university of western leeds, dr roy cape, if you're pleased, right?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: A wide smile followed that musing by roy papi cape during my visit, during my visit to his orupun gardens home in february 2021.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: The memories of the encounter rushed back following the news of the 82 year old saxophonist's death on th Papi, a prostate cancer survivor, had just received favorable news from his latest blood work from St James Medical Complex, was eager to show off.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: See, I'm looking good, eh, watch, I don't even need a stick to walk around the house, he boasted.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Roy Cape's musical career spanned nearly six decades.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: In 2004, he was the recipient of the Hummingbird Medal Gold.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: This is very important and this is why I talk about this.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I will never stop talking about it, so salute to them for honoring him with the Hummingbird Medal Gold.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Before, while he was still here, right In 2011, he received an honorary doctorate from the University of the West Indies.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: The accomplished saxophonist, arranger, composer and recording artist also launched his first publication, roy Cape A Life on the Calypso and Soca Bandstand in 2014.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And you know I can't read so well.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: So I was looking for a version of the audiobook so I could digest it before today, but I can't be reading.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I can't read so well, but I definitely will get a copy of that book as well.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yet Cape's real success, his true pride and joy, uh, yet cape's real success, his true pride and joy, was the boys and girls that graduated from his self-titled music school in sandy grandy and digger martin.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: In fact, during his very last call a few weeks ago, he asked for help in getting funding for the school.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: You have to come and check my boy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: We need help again.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: You gotta write a story.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Papi never miss a chance to boast about his students.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He says I have a little girl in grandy if you hear she is swear, she's kenny g and she beaten pan like a boss to pure talent.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: He said during a sit down for father's day, for father's day feature in 2022.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be about his life.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Last july, after presenting music literacy certificates to 36 graduates graduating students at your right cape foundation Foundation Music School in Dagoe, martin Cape made a plea for the Ministry of Education to officially include music education in his school curricula.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: He said when a man starts to play a saxophone or a trombone, it gives him a different feeling.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: When a man or woman could watch a piece of paper and read music, it turns their life around.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Music could help save some of our young people from being carried away.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Papi pleaded I love for his fellow man.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Cape grew up in Belmont's orphanage, now St Dominic's Children's Home on Belmont Circular Road.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Following the death of his grandmother, he chose to stay in TNT instead of moving to Grenada to live with his grandmother.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Sorry, following the death of his mother.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Was it mother or grandmother?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I had that wrong.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I trust Michael Monizzi on this.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Following the death of his grandmother, he chose to stay in TNT instead of moving to Grenada.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Perhaps the feeling of being all alone in the world inspired him to take on so many budding talents under his wing.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: So Kassar Destra was one of those mentees who found her feet and later her wings, under papi's guidance.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Uh, papi proudly recounted how destra and brian took him to dinner on his birthday in 2022.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Another one of his former charges, who gave him the nickname papi dunks, said cape, often talked fondly of soccer stars who visited him frequently.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: He said hola, when you're passing boy, you know patrice checked me the other day.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Hola, laugh.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I have so much memories with papi.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: He's my second earthly father after my late father, cultural promoter edwin yearwood.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: This this hola tundra right.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Papi would often tell hola stories of his escapades with his father, affectionately called swanky pops, when hola was first.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: When hola was fired from the frontline soca band traffic, papi invited him to enjoy to join the soca all-stars without an audition.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Papi used to come and check my hola vibe.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Take a little bun with bun and cheese.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Right, take a little bun, play keyboards.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That was how he was.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: He told me about a time when my father was managing the late black stall in luray callies.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: They went to collect her payment performance for a big, for a big gangster, and the man pulled a gun on them and they had to run.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: He did it his way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: During a conversation in june 2022, cape said that, with a lack of male role models in his life, he learned to rely on his own intuition.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Great up, say god, create one of us and give us wisdom.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It's up to us how we use it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Whether to be wise or to be dotish is up to you.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: It's all about love and kindness.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Life is just living and being able to evaluate the right from the wrong.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Reflecting on the passing of his soaker son, blacks, less than two months earlier, cape said he's a huge personal loss.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: The All-Stars lead singer would have died of COVID on April 28, 2022.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: He said it brought water to my eye, but when I went Desperate Spaniard for Blacks Wake, it was the most appreciation I ever see an artist get here.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Only one thing is left before he could see it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Only one thing is he left before he could see it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: If he saw that he would have felt like he was in heaven already.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: When you're talking about heaven, you're talking about a reuniting, that happening in heaven between men like blacks, men like black stalin, men like roy cape.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: So when they talk about music, the listeners is heaven.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to remember, if you want to go back to episodes here about artists we talk about and contribute us to, the art form.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted to just imagine for a minute what it must be singing like up there and boy, under all the artists and all the people who would have passed.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Boy, they got the Shanta Brass line there that hard to beat.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Watch me, watch me.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Hey, they should have never seen the brass in Kaito.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: They should have never seen the brass on Boso.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Now I'm puffing like the whole world know.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Without brass there's no calypso.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Roy Cape, I never knew you could have blow, so you blow harder than George and Hugo.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: When you blow, you just rip off the radio.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Blow Roy Cape, blow Roy Cape.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: He read your blow-royce game.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Blow-royce game.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Blow, blow, blow.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't end this segment.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I couldn't end this segment because, again, this was a surprise.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I couldn't end it without doing this right, this was a surprise to anybody at the time because and if you heard from him the man say, stalin always used to tell him he, pardon, always used to tell him he had to do a tune.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: You know, right, cape, we need one from you and I suppose you respect them for one another and they love.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It was really, really nice for me to see that picture come across my timeline, with roy cape and stalin looking, looking young.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: You know I mean.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Somebody's telling me again, I'm bob marley vibes, you know I mean.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And when you see how close them fellas was all over the years, yeah, yeah, it had to be a fly on the wall to hear some of them conversations, you know, but when a man like that, who is your personal friend, one of the greatest Calypsonians to ever live, when he tell your boy you have to give him a tune.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: It remind me of when Stalin had sing Sundar where my song, where my song About he and Sundar promising to do a collaboration.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: But when I heard Roy keep talk about this song and his coming from behind the bandstand and now playing music to going in front to take the mic and sing, and when he performed the song he had a swag and a vibe he used to bring with that song.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: If you ever see him perform it with something else, I suppose when Stalin called you and you had to do something and tell you you had to do this, I suppose you had to do it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So if you never know about Roy keep singing, you're supposed to know this.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Right, you're going to know about it now Long time.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Here in Trinbago I start playing Kaizo With.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: So many different bands and in many other lands.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Clarence Govan, runberry.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: What a privilege.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Now I come to show my version of Kaizo.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Jammy jammy, mr Kip.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Let me get another drink.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Jam the music, mr Kip.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: This jamming cannot escape of kaiso.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Get another.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Take.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Jamming music, mr K.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: This charming cannot escape With these sparrowed uber dogs.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I opened so many doors Playing music with the best.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: That was such a serious test.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Frankie Francis put it in his it did teach me the business.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: My education I got from these musicians.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you, if you want it, start some music.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: We go jammin' kaisa music.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: What's a-happin'?
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Jammin' jammin' MrK.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Let me get another take.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Jam the music, mrk.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: This jammin' cannot escape.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: This is Kaizo, in celebration of the life of the great, great Roy Cape.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Right, as we celebrate in life, we had to continue to celebrate life, right?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I take any opportunity to celebrate life that we could get Life's short.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: You know, life's short, life's short, life's short, even shorter for some of these youths in the country right now.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: But I'm leaving out the crime talk and I'm leaving out all them kind of talk this week, because one of the things I was happy to see with youths, right, and how about youth?
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Now, of course, when it's time for me to talk about them.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I can't find the name, but I know him as Hakim, right, I met this young man on the days when it used to have Clubhouse.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: On the days when it used to have clubhouse, we used to go and talk about thing, right, so I used to listen on clubhouse.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Clubhouse was like one long running podcast for me, so I used to enjoy going and listening to clubhouse on a weekly basis salute to everybody who was on clubhouse at the time, and one of the things that I I enjoy listening.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: But it used to get more annoyed because there's a lot of foreigners, a lot of fresh waters, one clubhouse talking about their carnival experience and you know, one of the debates they was having on clubhouse one of the times was that without foreigners right, without foreign base let me put it as far, let me stop calling people foreigners but foreign based right, without foreign based people, they can't have a carnival in trenton.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I think it like what it's.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Only after a while I realized I in a room with a whole set of people who live in the states and canada and their experience and what I see in here is two different things, because I was like there's carnival can happen anyway, anytime.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Kind of all is about one person.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where this numbers thing come on.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: You know the and I don't always remember that some people's version of Carnival is tribe and humor and lost tribe and that is the whole of Carnival to them.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: So when I was in this constant debate about Carnival getting too expensive and all this set of money, I was listening to somebody talking.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: The other day A podcast had bounced up recently.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I want to tell you the name of this podcast right Now.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: These fellas and them I like.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I like the podcast too, but that's what make me play this song, and if it's a one-man thing with, because this was the last episode that men record was a long, long, long, long, long, long time ago.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they don't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: They don't record too too often or what.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Men, let's take some kind of long break.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I just began views when I take a week off, men getting taken some long break in this thing.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: But of course it was time to find okay, I find them, them fellas and them song, like again foreign base men who, uh, who come in for carnival and them kind of thing.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: And I was shocked to hear when the man say, uh, a trip like a carnival experience for him in costing less than I want to tell, any figure equal like eight, nine thousand us.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I was like I'm not sure, I ain't sure.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: But they did say that they're doing well and them fellas are good jobs and thing right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: But I always wonder if people appreciate that you can have a complete carnival experience in this country, including going to events, seeing some of the top artists in the country perform, seeing some of the top steel band chipping on your road Monday and Tuesday chipping on your road for you.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: You could do all that for the grand total of nothing.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: That ain't going nowhere.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: So if what you want to say, I like what the guy had said on the podcast.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry I can't credit them, but I like what he said on the podcast because what people really mean to say is that you cannot afford the carnival experience that you want because it gain out of your reach.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: So what you got to do is up your money.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Look for your side hustles, invest wisely and see if you could up your money.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Because if you want that ultra premium kind of all experience where you come here and you stay in an airbnb that is in the middle of the savannah so you don't have to walk too far and you drive benzes all over the place, drop you to and come fet and you're coming from the fet in a helicopter and you're gonna play in a all-inclusive band with wing feather, head piece, foot piece, all them.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: If you can't afford that, then maybe you should look into alternatives.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: But I don't buy the argument that carnival getting too expensive at all.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: But that same young fella hakim, who used to be an and he's a popular social media influencer, and I see him come out and make a post and it's a resurgence with you to not tell all the other day about, uh, the boy, christian, christian constance, coming out and making a post of independence post and in the in the background he posts somebody who I more expect to be having.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Um, the, the young brothers and the lady lovers of this world as they, as they, as they back in music in the independence post is is sparrow model nation.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Right's.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: No population in this model nation.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I love this.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Surprised to see that.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: And then I'm surprised too to see this youth man wishing happy birthday to one of the vibestest Calypsonians I ever heard.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: A little girl came down from the country Saying how she wanted some parties but she don't know how to move around With them boys and them interns, so she had find no other buddy To come and ask for me.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: So I tell she Find a party, smoke a water.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: When you finish, drink again.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Find a corner, snatch a fella.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Snub your head, squeeze him on when the light steps.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: You put a good way.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Now your husband squeezy man.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: When he likes him you can start moving.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: She say how cheap he runs in the country.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Don't allow him to go to the party, don't allow you to go to the party.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: So this little break.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: You see again I come out to refresh.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: A party could be all.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: See A poser, a beater.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: So I tell she Find a party, smoke a water.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: When you finish, drink again.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Find a corner, smoke a wadi.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: When you finish, drink a Guinness.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not born a, not a fella.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Numb your head, but squeeze the man hard.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: When the lights dim you push the doorbell.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: She say how she hear it, but not shatter.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Dj Batman, join funky chairman, dj Batman.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Pupil busher Can't stop.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: See it from her remark.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I hope I won't have no problem To win myself with them.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: So I tell she find a party, smoke a wati.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: When you're finished, drink a galis.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Find a corner, snatch a fella.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Now you have a squeezy man heart.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: When the lights dim, you're gonna go back.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Where's our water?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Where's our water?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Where's our water boy?
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: That's what Olatunji was talking about.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Where's a wati?
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: You tell me man Roadmatcher 1979, the great, mighty poser.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean Great.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: One Name of the song is People in Stamado say the name of the song and everything.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Eh, the name of the song is Atelshi.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: You can also search for Smoke, a Wati.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Figure out how to spell Awati, right, the man's name is not Hakim, the man's name is Kwame, not just saying I don't know where I got Hakim from, no, but again, it's a kind of resurgence.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: It's a kind of because the whole talk and I was talking about this with the whole idea of Apollo, keep in mind, I roll in towards episode 200, right.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: 200 for me is must be two or three years of doing this right, and when I started off doing this, a big part of it was to talk about Calypso and this idea of new Calypso or Sokka and anything being different from Calypso.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I try to talk about this 200 episodes now.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: But I've seen where there's a tide turning with that Apollo show closing with a Calypso night featuring some big Calypsonians.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: When I see Crazy performing there, when I see Marshall rehearsing with Crazy, marshall takes some stress to put up a Calypso show together.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: He takes some pressure.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: He takes some pressure as a perfectionist in the music who try to make the thing right and I mean do the right thing where a tight performance is concerned.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Performance I don't think crazy was so, um, so invested, crazy like I doing this a hundred years now, play this song, I go sing it, you know, I mean he ain't trying to, he ain't trying to do too too too much.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: So salute to that, salute to these youths who know, or starting to appreciate and recognize and identify the roots of that, that, that calypso.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I was so surprised to hear him calling a man like poser, happy baby.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: So I have some poser tune lineup.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I have some poser tune lineup to play throughout the episode, but in a completely unrelated and I say unrelated to anybody name who I call.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: This is just a story I've been following, so this hasn't been with nobody I talked about before.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: But the news they have a story here.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: It's by Joey Bartlett, no indictments on him either, but it says Grindr Danger.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: If you're listening to this right and you don't know what is Grindr, go in the app store, look for Grindr and create a profile, have a good time, have at it and the great words are crazy.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: If you're carefying a woman, it's the only solution.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: If you're feeling for somebody in the party, why don't you take a man?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: There's been a troubling increase in crime on the popular gay dating app Grindr.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: You guys on your phone here, with the criminals posing as users to lure and rob members, you see what the kind of community is.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It's why the people come and march every year.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: This is what the community is going through and, as an ally, I come to talk about it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Despite this, users continue to navigate its digital land.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I wonder why, despite this, users continue to navigate its digital lands.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I wonder why, in May, former head of the Police Special Victims Unit, superintendent Claire Guy-Allen, issued a warning to the apps users, urging members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer community all of them LBGT plus community to exercise caution and conduct due diligence before meeting people.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, don't just go and meet people just so.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Guy allen said right to investigate this trend, newsday created a grinder account in late july.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Newsday is now climbing the charts to be one of the number one.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the number one newspaper in the country.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: This is what I've been talking about People, the idea of investigative journalism.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: You know we used to hear Mark Bassant and them doing investigative journalism, all undercover work, and them.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: We don't get enough of this kind of thing in the country.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: So Newsday decide them go bite the bullet.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Either that or you know I mean news.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: They decide I'll go bite the bullets.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't bite any bullets on the screen and bullets to investigate the shred news.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: They created a grinder account in late july which took about five minutes to set up.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: That mean.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Whoever set up that had one before.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Don't try to trick me with that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Which five minutes to take it and set up that had one before.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Don't try to trick me with that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: It took you five minutes to take it and set up.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: You had one.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: You know, when you have an iPhone, right, and you go and download an app that you had before, it has a little cloud around it and when you click it it just makes a circle and comes back.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: You, sir, had a Grindr account.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Don't try to fool people.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody likes different things.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Everybody likes different things.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody like different things.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: To investigate this trend, newsday created a Grindr account in late July, which took about five minutes to set up.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Scanning the app revealed numerous faceless torsos, numerous faceless torsos, and a few face photos, a few reflecting the anonymity often sought by its users.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Over two weeks, newsday interacted with 139 profiles.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: That is dedication to our story.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: The Guardian and the Express could learn something here.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: That is what you call dedication to our story.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Over the two weeks, newsday interacted with 139 profiles, with 59 continuing the conversation.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: 59 out of 139.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: That's a high hitting rate.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Only making more runs of the TKR.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: That ain't bad at all.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Continuing the conversation.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: After learning it was part of an investigation into why users continue to use the app.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I ain't like what they do here at all.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: They say here 59 continue the conversation after here and it was part of investigation into why.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: So they went on your swipe right and you make the man look like the torso.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: He see a torso and he's standing torso and looking to torso, and now they come to tell me what investigation.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: But thanks, these 59 people discuss it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, and if I was on this investigation team I would have wanted to find out, like because I've been following this for some time and what is here is Duncan Street and George Street and the Chafford.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: And I've been thinking like within the LBGT community, like, well, they know these areas.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Like you don't know Duncan Street, you don't know George, don't know junk country, you don't know george street, like god, sometimes I wonder like what you think was gonna happen.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I know what you think was gonna happen when you went there, but there was dangerous places to go.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: It's just let me.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Let me just bring down this the way it is now.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: It's looking for love, right, and I myself I've looked for love in some very, very dangerous places over the years.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I've looked for love in dangerous places when you you can't choose who you love.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: You can't choose who you love, right.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: So when you see I go on in the lair back in the day, right, I ain't going to tell you, I ain't going to call no name who I went with, right, when you go on in the lair and you find somebody you like and you drink and drop them home, I have my mother car driving in places where them four tires never see that part of Mova where I drive in.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I only see in the sky Part of BIL when I'm going up that hill.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I only see in the sky, part of Lavanty Road, what I find myself in these places for, but love.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: So I understand young love.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: You're going to find places and things, but there's some dangerous places in this app, right, especially when all I've seen is torso.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I never fall in love with that torso yet.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: During these interactions, 37 users reported.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: But then again, when you're on grinder, you're not looking for love, only finish download, only grinder profile check and see where people looking for there is not really loving.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: During these interactions, 37 users reported being victims of robbery.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, two of the 59 people who continue the conversation, 37 of them get robbed.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not for that.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Many conversations started with a nude photo sent on a timer, followed by the question your horse or drive?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: A timer, followed by the question your horse or drive.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I couldn't sort of ask people this.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Now, this is like that man of education.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I educated myself here, so we had to send a nude photo.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Right, the nude photo ain't bound to be yours.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: If you download this and you're new to this thing, the nude photo ain't bound to be yours.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: You could get nudes on your thing and you could send that to people, just in case.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Ask me how I know they say you host or you drive.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Host is a little bit of a brutal term.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: When you think of a grinder, it's host.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Host is you're hosting somebody inside.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Some users agreed to speak with news, provided that their identities were protected.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Aaron's story.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Aaron said he had to be smart.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: You got to be careful how you host when you're hosting.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got to be careful.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Standing in a shaded area near the old Arima police station, the 27-year-old from Malaba began chatting with Newsday two days after the profile was created.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Now I'll say something.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Right, I was watching Ian Allen the other day and I see a man who's talking about a situation like you know what I mean.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: He's a traveler, I think he's living in New York and he come here and he have a fella, but the fella have a woman and when he come, he say he come in, he place and the man shh, shh, shh, shh and this thing reach on Ian Allen now and make a big spectacle out of the thing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: And I see people online saying long time when you see somebody who as an ungrinder, when you see a horse or a driver, long time it have a look, but now the horse or the driver in a zest, you don't know who is who.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: So I talking about going into an area, but usually talking to a man from Malibu here.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: No, not in Malibu, of course, but usually talking to a man from Malibu here.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: No, not from Malibu, of course, but Newsday talking to a man from Malibu here.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: He say Iran, an accountant who loves anime, has four dogs.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Should I say anything disparaging about people who like anime, like most people who like anime and grind?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, iran, an accountant who loves anime and has four dogs, explained his continued use of the grinder, despite the rising robberies.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: All he could have asked me is I could tell you why he's using the grinder, despite the robberies?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: He said it's the easiest way to meet men who not or no, make out seem thing.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows why they're there.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I like places where everybody know why they're there.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: You know why I'm here.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I know why they do.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: You know why I hear it.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I know why you hear it and I'll set a confusion.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: This is what it is right, I would say.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: So far, iran.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Iran isn't worried about coming to be a crime victim because it takes precautions such as video chatting before meetings only if you see more than it also in the video chat and choosing public places for initial encounters.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, when you say initial encounters, like a date, what does a date mean?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: However, he admitted to an attempted robbery in 2023.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, aaron get robbed, do everybody say.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody, whoever.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Get robbed Nothing to do with grind or nothing.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: You see, when you get robbed and you had to go back on the block, the first thing he says like try to rub me.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I just gave him a hundred and called that a day.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get rubbed.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: You see, I met a fella in Orima last year and we went to Cleaver Heights.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: We went by an abandoned house.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: We went by an abandoned house and when I walk in, there was a fellow with a cutlass in the room.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: When you say cutlass, what can you?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Cutlass, I ain't showing me.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: When you say cutlass or a weapon, what weapon you looking for?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: He escaped through a window but didn't report the incident.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: You're escaping, wicked.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: You didn't escape through, you got robbed, you got taken.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: You got taken when the cutlass was part of the action.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody liked different things, right?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: He said he escaped through a window but didn't report it to the police, fearing exposure, believing the police wouldn't care.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: What you should do is report it to the police and you might find a police who's a horse.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's driving.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: After deleting his profile following the incident, aaron created a new one within months and saying he's more cautious now.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: It's the only place to meet men, if not the app, where I'm not going to no club or no bar.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: That is to him, is more dangerous.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Jason says queer people deserve a space to belong.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Jason, I wonder if Jason let me just say something, because me like, I thought I know the definition of queer, but Jason, jason from Aruka queer, but Jason is not correct.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, jason is not Jason from Aruka.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is Jason.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, they're Iran.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Done, they're not Iran.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Salute Iran, salute, salute Jason.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Queer people deserve a space to belong.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Jason from Aruka he's a yeast thing.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Jason from Aruka believes Grindr's popularity in TNT stems from the societal stigma surrounding homosexuality, stems from the societal stigma surrounding homosexuality.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Queer people deserve a space to belong, interact and connect.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I say so.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Grindr was created by queer people for that purpose.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: While it is true that caution is necessary when meeting others online, it is unfair to blame the queer individuals who are victims of these crimes, I find.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: So what I don't understand.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Is this idea of just going in tongue?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: You have to be a little more wise than that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Is this, this, um, this idea just going in tongue?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: You had to be a little more wise than that.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I don't like to victim blame or, you know, if something happened to you, you get hurt or you get robbed on them kind of thing that shouldn't happen to anybody.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: But also if, if, if I all I see is your torso and you tell me meet you in the plannings on duncan street are not coming here.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: But again, I've been been to some strange places and I was born before the internet too.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: My time.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: For these kind of things, you had to see and know the person.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: It had no blind date in my time.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Right, people say we deserve to be raped, robbed, injured or killed, and that's wrong, I agree.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: It's the same narrative as saying women ask for it when they wear skimpy clothes.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I agree too.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Same narrative as saying women ask for it when they wear skimpy clothes.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I agree too.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I agree too.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I agree with Jason.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Jason, you're talking sense.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Salute, jason, salute.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Let me hear what Brandon has to say.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Brandon, you're blasting the line.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Brandon says it's just a place to chat, brandon.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Brandon, you're not just chatting.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Brandon, a fitness enthusiast and part-time gym instructor from Sinji.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: He's going to go to the Ruka and the Harryman thing.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Brandon, a fitness enthusiast and part-time.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a channel going on in the name of Brandon.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the hell is going on.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Brandon, a fitness enthusiast and part-time gym instructor from St James, says he uses the app primarily for conversation.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: He said it might sound like a lie, brandon.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: It might sound like a lie, brandon.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: It does sound like a lie is a lie.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: It might sound like a lie, but I really only have just a chat.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I don't meet people, despite the rising incidents on the app.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: He says he has made two friends in three months, both of whom he invited back to his apartment for the first.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Well, brandon, smart brandon, smart.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Brandon is a man after my own heart, because all the dangerous places I go and thing with you, I'd like to.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: You got to come home by me.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: You have to come around.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not resting my head on no pillow, nowhere.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: You might catch me with a little drop home.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: The first time I had to pick you up.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: But you're coming in the james, you're coming in the bachi, right?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: His advice to others is to prioritize safety.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Don't put yourself in harm's way for sex.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: That's what we were just chatting, brando.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: He also believes police don't care about LGBT plus people.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Brandon, I don't think police care about much of you.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care if the police care if you're lesbian, gay, straight, brandon, or taken.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: People don't care about LGBT plus people and, despite not being a victim of crime, if one were to occur, you wouldn't know.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're not reporting that, harold.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: It's a name like Harold.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: You definitely host it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Harold, a 40-year-old police officer.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: You see, how are you going to say that the Brandon look police?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Harold, a 40-year-old police officer, maintains a grander profile unbeknownst to his partner of 15 years.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Harold, let me start over, right, because sometimes I just can't read so well.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Let me start over.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Harold, a 40 year old police officer, maintains a grinder profile unbeknownst to his partner, 15 years.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: He insists he's not gay, but he uses the app for vice.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Stay serious, there's not that laughing matter.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Despite the app's dangers, harrell feels secure due to his law enforcement background.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: My protection is my gun, harrell, your gun is your protection, but make sure you have protection for your gun, right?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: He said, adding that the crime affects all sectors of tnt and the challenges on grinder are no different from those on facebook marketplace.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: So when I sell in something on facebook marketplace, while buying something from facebook marketplace, I tend to want to meet by a police station.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, just to make sure you know.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't deal with no big, big transaction, but that man might know you have 1500 on you to buy something and that 1500 mean plenty to him, much more than it mean to you, and he willing to risk it all for that 15.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: So I just kind of want to meet by the police station.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I don't like the mall car even now, like I so frightened.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: The other day we had to park a car for sale and I frightened to meet people to sell content.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: I don't like it too.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: But I guess it's the same with grinder and I suppose you can't meet.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: You can't really meet by a police station to just talk like brandon, unless you're gonna meet harold.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: So, brandon, meet harold, harold, brandon.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: David says it's a fun place to connect.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I say so.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: David, a 23 year old from my arrow, enjoys using grinder to connect with others.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Though aware the app's dangers, he appreciates the social aspect.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: I've met so many people from all over trinidad.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I enjoy the chat and the occasional lineman grinding.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: It's nice to.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: It's nice meeting other people like me, especially since I live up here in the bush.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I like what news they do here too music.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: So anyway, a grand list of crimes.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Grindr has been linked to numerous crimes in recent months.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: On August 27th a guy and his teacher hired a Titi rideshare driver to carry him to Maraval to meet a man he met on Grindr.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: They were both robbed.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: So what the hell I have to do with this if I see a rideshare man, where did I get Grindr robbed for that man gets, he gets robbed with very little upside.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: You know he didn't even go for this, he was just a rideshare driver in july and 19 year old, was sexually assaulted and robbed by someone he invited to his home.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: 19 yeah, you know the other b, but I guess you see 19 and them is the kind of age where boy, listen, 19 year old heat is a different kind of heat to 40 something year well, heat, when you're, when you're 40 something, you get a heat.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Well, the heat is a different kind of heat to 40 something year old heat.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: When you, when you're 40 something, you get heat.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Well, the heat is come on slow and it's go fast and you could wait.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: But when he's 19 in his car, wait and his car think straight, you're gonna bring somebody in your house.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Look what can happen to you.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: It's a sad, sad to hear.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't know any other kind of thing.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: In june a concrete man was beaten, robbed of his car, robbed and his car had his car stolen after meeting someone on Grindr.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Another man was robbed of his car and cash after meeting a man at a guest house in the wrong ways.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: In May 26, a Rima man was beaten and robbed by five men during his lunch hour after a visit to an apartment on Nelson Street.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: After the visit Oli, be the man.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Oli, wait till the man's weakest point.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: You know when you're done.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: You're tired.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Whether it is you're driving or hosting, you're tired.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Only rub the man.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Then Newsday spoke with Dion Geller, gender illusionist activist and counselor at Titi Family Planning Association.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: He believes Grindr should implement integrated and mental health All right, okay, okay.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: He believes Grindr should implement integrated and mental health All right, okay, okay, dion, all right, let me stop there.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Dion.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Grindr is not a he's talking like if we make Grindr in Lepland.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Grindr is a big international organization.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of things to study.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: They go basically tell you it's like Facebook.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: They're going to tell you listen, be careful.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: You're going to meet man all over.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Spoke to him, go and tell him listen, be careful, go and meet man all over.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: It's clear that no matter where you come from and no matter what your preference is, or no matter if you're driving or you're horsing Tongue, man, have a sweetness.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Tongue man have a Sweetness.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: Still looking for men.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: You could ask a man, come in and see what they in for me, dorothy Walker, in a man.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: If you satisfaction must be man, be From the country.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: She said look around and find me a man from town.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: She love the town man, she want the town man.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: She like the town man.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: Give she the town man.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: She said.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: He said your money's mine.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: So, miss Camille, it's a question in the street.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: So Miss Carmen start questioning she.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: I can't understand why it must be her tongue man.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: Dorothy, you make a head of men, but why pretend all men is men.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: What she shall know.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, country man, what a tongue man I will go by.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: She love the tongue man, she want the tongue man.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: She like the tongue man.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: Give she the tongue man.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: She say the country man, give satisfaction.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: A person could jump, but tongue man will lie action.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: Give she the tongue man.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: She love the tongue man, she prefer the tongue man.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Listen, I never here to bring nobody into disrepute.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: My goal is never to bring poser into disrepute.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: So as much as I had to play Tongue man for the grinders of this world.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: I had to make poser position clear.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: Everyone opposes Is a bus conductor.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: So long I'm walking, no promotion coming.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: Instead, I hold this patch up, want to give me pressure, since I have a woman driving, it's with them.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: I work him, but he have a problem.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: He don't want me work with him playing.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: He's my friend, but only want me work with the men, not me.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: I want to work on.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: Ira bus.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: I want to work on Sarah bus.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: I want to work on Janet bus.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: I want to work on Margaret bus not me on Isaac bus, not me.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: An Wilshire bus, I want a Death bus, not a Woken Anyone bus.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: Working with the women, I never have problem.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: Everything does work right, from guests to the headlight.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: They check on the tyre, gas, oil and water.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: They make sure that the bell is working just as well.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: But when you work with the men you always have problems.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: The bus and the tongue.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: What the blinking bus done?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: Shut down.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: Not me.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: I want to work on the Arab bus.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: I want to work on the Sierra bus.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I want to work on the Janet bus.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: I want to work on the Madrid bus.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: Not me on the Isaac bus, Not me on the Wilshire bus.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: I just feel the cuss when they put me on a man bus.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: Alright, oh yeah, yeah, oh, dun, dun, dun dun.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: With them male bus driver, you always have pressure.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: They reach in to work late.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: No sign about the last date and you, the conductor, got to check the dispatcher To see what bus working.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: They go in and eat something.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't check before they leave to see the bus working.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: They're going and eat something they wouldn't check before they leave To see the bus.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: Defective is any old bus, but not me.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: I check in them first.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: You see, I wanna work on.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: Iyer bus, I wanna work on Sarah bus.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: I wanna work on Janet bus.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: I wanna work on Margaret bus, Not me on Isaac bus, not me on Wilshire bus.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: Others make real fuss to me on Wilshire bus.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: Others make real fuss To walk on any man bus.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: I like all them buses in and for me.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: All them bots are seeing them from me here.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Boss is like rain, big boss is small boss.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Watson Duke, me and harold buss I'd rather that fuss.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Watson duke.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Vendors vow to fight the he over store b upgrade.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: When I saw later from what's yeah, we gotta keep.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, after big we're gonna watch what's none, um, but the next one named value, we had to keep we're.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: And what's this?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of pdp show, that's what I'm done for.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: From elizabeth gonzalez, tobago correspondent.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Frustrated over the planned upgrade at storebiz, some vendors and rift operators vowed to go to war with the tobago house assembly for a fair and transparent process.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: The vendors yesterday warned of chaos.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: The vendors on storebiz know that there's already care anyway.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: The vendors yesterday warned of chaos if their sales were disrupted.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: They spoke to the media after a news conference with political leader, the progressive Democratic Patriot, watson Duke, at the site yesterday morning.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Duke vowed to stand in defense of the workers as part of what will be a people revolution.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: We want to know about accommodation.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: What happens when you turn this into a construction site?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Do you still starve the horse?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Are you going to starve the people who have found food here while you are building up?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: What exists in your head and in your head alone, boy?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Politicians know how to talk.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Some vendors who use the store bay facility have accused the th of favoritism and nepotism.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: They claim they were in the dark about the planned upgrade.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Top operator ronnie elliott claimed he was unaware of the planned upgrade.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: We don't know anything about construction.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: We hear they had something going on at the community center.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: We hear about these things after the fact.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: We have no issue with them doing whatever they want to do, as long as the people have a saying what's being done here.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: We're not going to take this easy.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: These are people who have supported.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: These are people who have supported.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: These are people who we supported and they have to support people who support them.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: That's a complicated sentence.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: We are poor people, private, enterprising, making a living.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Another tour operator, andrew Martin, said he too was clueless about the move.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: While he supports development, he said those who make a living at the facility must not be held to ransom.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: My thing is that if only a few people were informed, they should have a media advertisement where the locals could have input into what's taking place.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: It cannot be local people who were born here, bred here, etc.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Listen, these things are too simple.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Storby has some vendors.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: It's done a kind of chaos to me already.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: It has some people who sell food by Ms gene and miss trim on them.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, they have a little eating area outside there where it is too long them, they do it and that is, as you say, a private and enterprising that little thing.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: There it is too hot and it's not too much a fly.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: The government and the government and the government and the th, the six people who selling food, must be able to come together and try and do something about them.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: They might want to fly that in that place where it's so uncomfortable to go and eat.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: You see, this idea that private enterprise must be supported by the government.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: We don't have an incubation phase.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: You know, we lifetime taxpayers responsible for the lifetime of some businesses.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: That is no.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I've said this about things like soca monarch and several competitions throughout canada.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: And it's the same in storby.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: If you try to buy a dumpling and work a crab and dumpling over there and you try to sit down in that area, it's hot they wouldn't buy a fan and make the place comfortable.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: The same six vendors who benefited from that for generations could come together and say, hey here, what's going on?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Let me wipe down here with bleach every morning.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Let me get some of this.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, boy, listen, I don't know.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Then there are some people who sell some ice cream and things in that place.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: We ain't sure if you could go in or not go there.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: You know the big building in the middle.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Then on the next side they had to pay a dollar to use the washroom and then that's a mental and some craft.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Everybody who's selling craft the little extra aggressive I find.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I guess it's a sales pitch.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: So, from body to road, the accident.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: If you want to do this, that and it's, I guess that's normal.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: And in tourist driven countries I don't like it.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: I wish there was a way to eliminate.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: I remember going to cancun and man, when you're coming out the airport, the man pulling your hand to tell you about a taxi.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: I don't like them saying too much.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: My testosterone is low, too much aggression for me.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I need a simpler process.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: And then there's a man who I was telling all about him last time we went to Bego, who he had a shack sort of right by the step to walk down by.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: This man is rude.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: He don't know how to deal with people, he's unhygienic, it's it's.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: We should welcome any change that come into store bay not saying that it wasn't.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, store bay is a iconic landscape in tobago and I hope they don't go and maracas, the thing where they go and put some hdc house on store bay and so on.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: But I just find it too simple.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: There's a few operators there.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Your tha tobago is a small place.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: It moves slow, just just like one time me.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: I see farley in town meetings all the time, all over the place, talking to people nearly every week, like I can't believe that.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: A part of this, I feel, is like what's in you gonna stir up something to get some support on his side and get a little facetime in the papers, because I find it too simple for this to be a issue.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Farley just had to go and meet with a handful of people, including the two operators who back in the day used to be glass-bottom boats and they could go and watch you reef.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Apparently that's not much more.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: So now the glass-bottom boat is like the harbour master.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: It's fat going on there and it's a little too much for me.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think I will go on that at all.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: I go on that at all.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I I don't like it.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: It's just a lot.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I suppose you're just going out to the nylon pool and chill out there, but I, for young people, now me able to that sort of noise.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I I comfortable going on the beach and relax.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: So if you get all the people who rent in chairs, all the people, that's a small consultation and I agree with them in that you can't really, they say, while the grass growing, the cows starving.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: You had to figure out a way for the people to continue to make the income while you do the renovation.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: So if it means housing them somewhere else or making parts of the beach available for people to go on while you renovate, but it's only fair to them that it's clear how they're going to do it.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: Is it the beach itself you're going to renovate or is it the shopping area and all that?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: I find that this is for me a little too simple a problem to be an issue.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: A part of the consultation ought to be how are we going to get private businesses to operate as a private business?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: You're running a business.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: You have to figure some of the things out.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: It can't be that we renovate it and then it's still everything on us.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: All you're doing, you're paying our rent here and you do nothing else to to to enhance the business, make it better for your customers, reinvest in the space, and so on.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of like the idea you give people these spaces like the same thing with the savannah and thing you charge our rent.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: So it can't be that we subsidizing the rent to make it easy for smaller businesses to come in and pay and then on top of that there's no reinvestment by the businesses themselves, there's no handover process, there's just a forever incubation for generations, and I think that that that kind of thing had to stop.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: But some more private sector and business are to kind of to partners to shout out and only excuse me for a minute, you see, when you have big shot friends, right, you got to make sure that you talk about your big shot friends on your broadcast and so on, just in case, so that me I have to depend on.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: No, if I depend on government's intervention and handouts, I think at least I have some big shot friends I could call on if that dried up and I could get some business.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Reading from the news day two days ago Young meets with Nutrien.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Energy Minister Stuart Young had an introductory meeting with Edmund Thompson, vice President and Managing Director of Nutrien.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: The meeting was held at the Ministry's office in the International Waterfront Complex on September 6th.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: In the ministry release young welcome thompson and commended nutrients recent successful to the wrong.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Salute to edmund thompson as my partner.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: So I didn't make sure you know.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: I mean so that anytime you know we need some business from nutrient in the future, I could go back to moments like these and say, remember, I talked about you on my podcast.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: And then you know, I mean, make sure that, make sure that the bread run.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Not in all seriousness, that's a fellow that I'm very, very proud of.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: That's my partner from back in the day day.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: So I had to take a minute to talk about him.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Another fellow who I'll tell you, uh, I went to fatima with and has always been one of the cooler people.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this right, he's one of the most cool people you ever this right, he's one of the most cool people you'll ever deal with, but he's also one of the most direct people you'll ever deal with.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: And they have two words.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: But the second one is up.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: He's also that kind of man who there's no man who'll tell you where to get off right.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: But I'll always remember a time where boy listen one of the frustrating times in work, I was in First Citizens Car Park in Gulfview and I was so frustrated with things going on in the bank.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: And some of the frustration is things we bring on ourselves, because you're trying to navigate the space and figure out business and you have salaries to pay and not enough money to pay and you're just frustrated.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: And in the frustration I went to my phone and I say there must be a better alternative to banking.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: And that's all I said on the Facebook post.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: And then I get a message from this gentleman and he asked me well, what's going on?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: What happened, do you need help with?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: And I went through with him.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: He happened to be working at one of the banks where we had the accounts and, in fairness, at the time there's not a lot that he could have done, given it was really our issue.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean given it because it was really our issue.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you know and you maybe I was just venting because it was nobody else problem.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I could have done with the help or the pullout, but it was nobody else problem.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: But I always admired that because he was older than me in school he wasn't like friends to talk to every day, but we know one another, play a little basketball and lime a little bit and you know we didn't pass each other straight no, fatima man.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: But for him to see that and reach out, it said something about his character and since then anything that I had to do, I talked to him a lot.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: He was working at Blue Waters one time and dealing with farming and them kind of things which I found to be fascinating.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: And he takes some time out of his busy days to talk to me about farming and that's something get involved in at some point in time.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: But I read in from the express here.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: Jardine appointed as managing director of rbc royal bank trinidad and tobago.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Mark jardine has been appointed as managing director of rbc royal bank, succeeding richard downey, who is set to retire later this year.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: According to a release from rbc, jardine's appointment was shared by rbc royal bank head of caribbean banking, chris dugan.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Jardardine is currently RBC's vice president of business banking in Trinidad and Tobago and he took on the additional duty of managing director effective September 2nd 2024.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: I'm a partner.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: And again, should I be in any problems with the bank, rbc or any one of the banks, I'm going to be very comfortable and feel good.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: So I can pick up the phone and call jardine, and before I start to talk I will play this segment of the podcast so he know that I was always, I was always on his side, I was always his friend, I was always a huge supporter and always in it, backing him a hundred percent in any of his endeavors.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: But salute to jardine, salute to boy edmund and I mean talking about talking about backing people, right, I want to.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: I want to move on quickly here to one of my um, one of the things that causes me headaches, right, one of the things that causes me headaches.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: And, and not just headaches but sleepless nights these days, because I'm not a young man and I need to go in my bed by a certain time.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: And you see, when I had to stay up late in the night I don't care see, already my, my, my contact lenses started dry up, like, staying up late is a very difficult thing for me to do.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: And you see, when I stay up late, to backside that I support.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: I have a problem with that, since cpl starts cpl games to start seven o'clock me and see the second innings in a cpl game for the season here.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: I started to watch nfl this week's little patriots.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: The patriots just know that if the nfl playoffs was tomorrow, the patriots would be in the playoffs.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Right, let me just put that out there one time.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: But I can't tell you.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: The last time I reached halftime in an nfl game I fallen asleep in the morning watching the prem.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't see nba in a long time because I just go too late cpl.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: By the time the first first side reach about 18 overs, I done sleeping.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I had to see this guy in the morning.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: But the soca warriors I stayed up.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: I make sure I put things in place.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: I sleep downstairs, I make sure everything in place so I could take in the Soca Warriors Soca Warriors, if you don't know, playing in the Nations League and the first game they had to play was against Honduras.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: This is coming off the heels of the dismissal of the great Angus Eve.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Salute to Angus and everything you've done for us so far.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: One of the stranger decisions I've seen.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: I will admit that the last time I went to the stadium to watch Soca Warriors play.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: I was a little confused as to what the strategy was and what we was going after when I was watching Angus and Ed play, because we play Grenada and we was just taking route one and boom the ball up the field, all the social media calling it Stoke City football.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: You know, football is supposed to know what that is right and people was upset.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: We also went and beat somebody about six, one or seven one.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: So I tell my nowhere in my mind.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I thought angus would I get fired, but he was, and the caretaker coach now is derrick king.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: So we all waiting to see what is derrick king's first outing going to be?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Like right, and I'm not gonna come here and knock Derrick King because again I'm backing the Warriors.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: We have a game tonight in Tobago.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to go Tobago and take in this game and see the store before the construction and all that.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: But Tobago, they will probably just disrupt my week too much.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: I would have loved to just be there for the night taking that game and come back, but but too much going on for that.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: I don't like to miss Suka Warriors play when they're done.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: I love going to that Dwight York Stadium in Bacolet, that stadium is a vibe and with Kevin Showtime, woodley Tobago's great hope.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: Woodley's about 50.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: But I figured the turnout would be real good in the stadium tonight too and I would have liked to be there.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: But, moving forward, we'll be looking at his first game against Honduras and during this international break a lot of teams had two games a home game and an away game.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: I would have think that when you go to the away game like a point is a big win If you just draw the game you could is a big win.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: If you just draw the game you could get a big.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you win the game, that's great.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: But their king went in assuring that the team was gonna take three points and all these nice things, and when I watched the game he said 35 minutes.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: Right, he said before the game, but I mean he was good for a little while.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: It looked like a different team for a little bit, where we seem to be in better control of the ball and a little more attacking football, which is, I guess, what people wanted.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: But if I'm hardly being a coach or expert in football right, far from but I would think that what we play in the first couple minutes or the first part part of the game is how you want to play in the last part of the game if you're still nil-nil in our way game, but who the hell am I?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Let me just read the people article.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: This from ronnie walker soccer warriors whip 4-0 by honduras in conquer calf nations league opener.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Before the soccer warriors open match forward ryan telfer urge your team to show no fear in the hostel environment.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: And caretaker coach derrick king assuring his team to show no fear in the hostel environment.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: And caretaker coach Derek King assured his team he'll take three points in the contest.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the best thing to do as a brand new coach and a caretaker coach at that, to go in there guaranteeing wins in that game that you don't really need to win.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: But referee Tori Penzo blew her whistle at the end of 19 minutes and Trinidad and Tobago, who played off the park at the Estadio Nacional Chelato Ucles in Tecapalugulacapa, honduras, as they felt a heavy 4-0 loss With attack minded, 4-4-2,.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: Let me not bore you with all the football details.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: What happened in the game is that we were holding it for a little while.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: We can see the unfortunate goal, a football goal, you know.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: I mean a little deflection on its score and then after that alvin jones get a little bit of a knock on the field and then they rushed down his side and they score again.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, like we never look good, we never look good beyond that spell we had initially.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: We never recover.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: We never looked like if we was gonna recover.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: The men had about a 100 shots on goal.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: I think we had two.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, very early in the game we had a chance that we should have put away and we didn't.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: But that not giving me the way we played, not showing me any indication that if we went up 1-0, we could have hold on to that lead and win the game.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: That team didn't look like it had the way to play the kind of football that he wanted to play.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: But again, I'm behind Derrick King 100% and I want to see a great result tonight in Bacolod.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: I want to see them beat people very, very, very bad.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think again, when you're going into a two-leg you have to study the spirit of the team going into the second leg and we have French Guiana tonight.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that the team you know, they take that 4-0 loss and they say they're coming out for vengeance against French Guiana.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Because even if you play an away game and you lose, what you don't want to do is lose big like 4-0 and make goal difference a factor and all that.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: But we're backing him, we're backing him 100%.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, on record too, that you have a coach who was playing ugly football and not losing, not losing, right, he was drawing or winning most of his games, right, he's the first coach that has had anything resembling a good record.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: For must be a decade if, if, so short, and we fire him from man who gone on in a two, in a two, two leg thing.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you're going away and lost four nil and, uh, I know that the under 14 boys and them just went and play french guy and lost out to them recently.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how much pedigree french guy and I have at the senior level, but I hope, in for trend that and tob tobago sake for sure, but for their king's sake as well, that we have a good, solid game against french guy and beat them handily, because it's not going to look good if we fire a coach who doesn't lose these kind of games.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: It might be ugly, he might pick all kind of different team every time he play.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: You have a different squad and that, that, that, that and it's stoke city football and thing but he wasn't losing and he wasn't losing no, four nil, nowhere.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: But let's see, let's see, hopefully.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we have a different story to tell next week.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: But in good news and in great news, paralympic athlete hakim steward, who recently won a silver medal at the Paris Paralympics Games 2024, will be receiving a $150,000 grant from the Ministry of Sports and Community Development.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: In a release yesterday, the ministry stated that Sports and Community Development Minister Shampa Kuj Lewis continues to recognize Stuart's silver medal performance and the grant was in recognition of his outstanding achievement.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: The ministry explained the grant is part of the National Incentive and Rewards Framework and policy designed to honor athletes who achieve medals at the highest levels of international competition in various sports.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: In 2019, akeem received 450,000 for his gold medal in the Olympics in the ja.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Hakeem received 450,000 for his gold medal in the Olympics in javelin, and silver 450?
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: , 450?
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: You only know what I'm thinking right now because the way I just read and them kind of thing I should be able to get into a little Paralympics.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: And whoever see me play football, I'm sure I get into a little paralympics and all ever see me play football, I sure I could make a paralympics football.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: So there's nothing wrong with me today.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: In 2020, you receive 181, so it's not a millionaire.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: In 2020, you receive 181,000 for achieving goal in the discuss on a silver in the javelin.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: Uh, in 2024, you $37,500 for his gold medal.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: Oli, have a plan, have a plan, have a plan, have a plan.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: I'm working on something.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: I let it be known.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Now, oli, go support me.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: I need as much support as I can get, because we gotta scam the thing, we gotta scam it, we gotta scam it.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: I don't tell Oli in this episode I have some big shot friends in some high places and think we've got to do a little bit of scamming because me and him work so hard.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Not taking anything against Salute, salute Hockey, but all the jokes they're making.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: He has been a great representative for Trinidad and Tobago in the Paralympics over the years.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: I think he's the most recognizable face in the paralympics and I might I might go as far as to say he's one of the most recognized olympians.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: We have, as a whole been there and doing it for a long time.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: So salute to him on his millionaire status.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: But we got to try something.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: We got to work something out.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: Hey, I live in hollywood a couple.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: You know I'm one from posa that I want to play here as well.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: This is what Bandbites.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: Robbie, since we married, you'll never take me to a party.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: It's always merry.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: You see, bobby, baby, I'm going out and partying, but things are changing.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: Robbie, I ain't joking, it's my time for fencing.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: I'm going on party tonight.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: I'm going break down tonight and tonight seems just right.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: She said tonight tonight tonight is lucky, my night.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: I'm going on party tonight.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: I'm going break down.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: Tonight is my oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the dogs ain't no problem.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: I done cooked my food for them and they go feeding on tree then I do all the housework.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: Problem this is You're good for nothing.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: This is very damn nice.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: She said Robbie darling, you ain't got no feeling, but I'm gonna teach you something.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: I'm going on party tonight.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna break down tonight, not tonight, see, just try.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: She said tonight.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: Tonight.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: Tonight is really my night.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: I'm going on party tonight.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to break down tonight.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going on party tonight.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday to the great Sylvester Poza Lockhart.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: In love and memory and dedication to the great Roy Cape, who means so much to so much of us, I want to play two artists here to close off this episode.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: That was men under Roy Cape or men who.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the first one I want to play, who is called Roy Cape's father, where a man who, a man who you're going to meet by now, two of them men, must link up and I can't imagine the tightness or the embrace that must happen when Roy Cape meet blacks up in heaven.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: Whoa, Come in, come in.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: Hey, yes, what if you ain't all yet?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: You ain't all yet.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: Too much of the place, Too much of the place.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: What if you ain't all yet?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: Too much of the place.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Spread your hands and let go.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: Spread your hand in the air.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: Everybody.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: Spread your hands and let go.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: Hand in the air.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: Whoa, hey, Come on, let me do it.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: Let me do it.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: Let me do it again.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: Come on, let me move it.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: Let me move it.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: Let me move it again.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: Come on, let me jump and spread out the hand and spread like the mountain.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Throw your stress away.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: Come on, let me do it.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: Do it again.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: Come on, let me move it.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: Move it again.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: Come on, let me wave, We'll be right back.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: Spread your hands in the air, everybody, Spread your hands out there.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh, oh, Honey, the air.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: Sing with me, everybody go.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, do your thing.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: Spread your wings, do your thing.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: Spread your wings, do your thing.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, do your thing.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Spread your wings, do your thing.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, do your thing.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, spread your wings, oh, do your thing.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, I say it's about time.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: Drop it on the white line All in the night time Until we see sunshine, from Sunday to Sunday, except we set him all day.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: If it's long, tell me when.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Come on, drop me fast.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Spread your hands and let go.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: Spread your hand in the air.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Them men must hear Lego.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Up to now.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: I can imagine what it was like when that man had that gate open and that man see papi.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: And if I know the way things go right, this man asked this question since the 80s, 87 to be exact.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: This man asked this question.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: He said he wanted a day where he could be Peter, and it didn't have a day that he would have wanted to be Peter.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: More than the day that Roy Cape leave us and come and join him.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: Jano, jano, which man Hour.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: Judgement morning I buy the gate and I wait in Because I beg in the master.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: Give me a work with Peter.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: If I come, sin has come in with them.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: I go be dealing, because the things that they do me, I want to fix them personally.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: Peter, wait, peter, wait, peter.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Look Cecil roads by the gate.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: Peter, look the Englishman.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: We send Cecil roads to Africa land.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: Peter, take Drake, take Raleigh, but leave Victoria for me.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: Bunchy Bunchy, peter, I just don't care what you say, but Mussolini, he can't get away Bunny bunny, why?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: This is my time for Bunny Bunny, bunny, bunny, bunny bunny.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: This is my time for Bunny Blazing, blazing, blazing, blazing.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: This is your time for Bunny Bunny, bunny, bunny, bunny, bunny.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you, peter.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: You don't know the pressure that I undergo From these smart man and woman.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: I feel the full weight of their hands.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: They made a whole press law.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: They never care about the poor Peter.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: These people had a day.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: Well, now it's time for Stalin to play.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: Peter, wait, I say Peter, wait, peter.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: Look Ian Smith by the gate.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Bonnie Bonnie Peter, I don't want you to make fashion, Remember.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: I want Christopher Columbus.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: Bonnie Bonnie Peter.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: Look the English woman who, in South Africa, refused to put sanctions.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Punching, punching, peter.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: I just don't care what you do, but Reagan going in the fire too.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: Bunny bunny, why?
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: This is my time for bunny Peter.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: Please keep on your blazing, blazing, blazing, blazing.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: This is your time for bunny.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Peter, local puppy coming.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: I'll see you all next week.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Have a safe week, have a productive week, take care of yourself.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to you soon.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Bye.