Latest / FSU Football: Doak Talk / Is Norvell ONE LOSS Away From Being FIRED?! What Is FSU's Administration Doing?!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, Noel Nation, it's C.J. Wilson here with Dope Talk.
- 0:02Speaker 1: FSU is in the midst of a bye week.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Just wanted to drop some information on you guys and
- 0:06Speaker 2: talk about a few things. I think it's a clear
- 0:09Speaker 2: message from the administration as far as how they feel
- 0:12Speaker 2: about the, I guess you could say the head coaching
- 0:15Speaker 2: status or the head coaching job or just the overall
- 0:21Speaker 2: thoughts on the program from their perspective. I feel like
- 0:24Speaker 2: it's a clear message from the administration, just what they've
- 0:26Speaker 2: been putting out in recent. Bruce Fillman of Athletic put
- 0:30Speaker 2: out an article regarding Mike Norvell's status based upon what
- 0:33Speaker 2: he's hearing in the industry and sources and things like that.
- 0:35Speaker 2: So just kind of putting two and two together. He
- 0:37Speaker 2: has a FSU source on these things. Bruce is a
- 0:41Speaker 2: pretty reliable guy when it comes to this type of
- 0:44Speaker 2: coaching information when it comes to the industry.
- 0:47Speaker 1: I'm going to get into the direct quote in a second.
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- 1:04Speaker 2: FSU football. All right, so in the quote, it was
- 1:09Speaker 2: a direct statement that was in quotations in regards to,
- 1:12Speaker 2: I guess, the job Norvell has been doing and that
- 1:14Speaker 2: type of deal. And this is what I, this is the,
- 1:17Speaker 2: I guess you could say the important part of the
- 1:18Speaker 2: quote that kind of caught my attention. They know they
- 1:22Speaker 2: need to put, and this is the quote, they know
- 1:24Speaker 2: they need to put more into the program.
- 1:26Speaker 1: They are playing better. playing better.
- 1:28Speaker 2: He just can't seem to catch a break. What do
- 1:32Speaker 2: you mean by playing better? This is the part of...
- 1:37Speaker 2: This is the stuff that frustrates me with the state
- 1:41Speaker 2: of the program. You hear Norville always talk about the standard,
- 1:45Speaker 2: the standard third, the standard is the standard, all that
- 1:47Speaker 2: type of deal. Former players, just whoever. Anybody who's been
- 1:50Speaker 2: a part of who's seen FSU football at its peak
- 1:54Speaker 2: knows what the standard is. The standard isn't playing better.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Like who cares about quote unquote playing better?
- 2:02Speaker 1: It's one or two results.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I mean, you either win or you lose. There's no
- 2:05Speaker 2: in between. We get no consolation prizes and things like that.
- 2:09Speaker 2: You get no cookie for time. You get no cookie
- 2:12Speaker 2: for playing games close or whatever it may be.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Like what do we.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Mean by playing better? Just because we played a rival
- 2:22Speaker 2: game close, that's typically played close. We're in the overtime
- 2:24Speaker 2: against Miami, who's the number one team in the AP
- 2:28Speaker 2: right now, that's playing better?
- 2:33Speaker 1: I mean, did we forget what happened the previous week
- 2:36Speaker 1: at Louisville?
- 2:40Speaker 2: The Cardinals went on a 44-6 run to close that
- 2:42Speaker 2: game out, but we're playing better. Mike Norvell is 10-21
- 2:46Speaker 2: in his last three years, including this year. So 2024, 2025,
- 2:50Speaker 2: and the midway point of 2026, He is 10 and
- 2:56Speaker 2: 21 during that time frame. 10 and 21. We need
- 3:01Speaker 2: to put more to the program. How much do you
- 3:03Speaker 2: think FSU spend? Like, I don't understand that. Like, how
- 3:06Speaker 2: much do you think FSU spends on an annual basis
- 3:09Speaker 2: to that roster?
- 3:10Speaker 1: Like, yes, we don't. Yes.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Granted, FSU don't spend enough or doesn't compete nationally with
- 3:15Speaker 2: the few schools, Ohio State, LSU, Miami, Texas, et cetera.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Those guys on a national scale when it comes to
- 3:23Speaker 2: compete for national championships, right? FSU doesn't spend that money.
- 3:29Speaker 2: FSU spends more than Duke. FSU spends way more than Duke,
- 3:35Speaker 2: who won the ACC championship last year. FSU spends way
- 3:39Speaker 2: more than Wake Forest as well, too. Way more than
- 3:42Speaker 2: Wake Forest. Wake Forest is currently 6-1. FSU spends more
- 3:48Speaker 2: than Louisville. FSU spends more than SMU when it comes
- 3:51Speaker 2: to NIH. Yes, we spend more than, I know it's
- 3:53Speaker 2: kind of shocking, We spend more than Louisville and SMU,
- 3:57Speaker 2: who both beat us this year. Lost to Stanford last year.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Stanford don't spend more money than us. It's only one
- 4:09Speaker 2: ACC team that spends more money than FSU on a,
- 4:14Speaker 2: I guess you could say, an annual NIL basis, and
- 4:17Speaker 2: that's Miami. And yet we are in the bottom of
- 4:19Speaker 2: the conference in rankings. The math isn't mathing, man. So
- 4:24Speaker 2: what do you mean by, I just want to break
- 4:26Speaker 2: those two codes down. We need to put more money
- 4:28Speaker 2: into the program.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Say, for instance, you do put more money into the program, right?
- 4:35Speaker 2: Where's the money going? Where's it going? You still have
- 4:38Speaker 2: to have someone responsible for the money and allocate those
- 4:41Speaker 2: funds in a certain area that's beneficial to the program,
- 4:43Speaker 2: not detrimental to the program. Was it the administration's And
- 4:50Speaker 2: Ashton Daniels has been playing great. I don't want to
- 4:54Speaker 2: come off as a shot to him because he has
- 4:56Speaker 2: been playing great within these last few weeks.
- 4:59Speaker 1: One of the better quarterbacks within the ACC. So I
- 5:03Speaker 1: don't want to take this as a shot at Ashton
- 5:04Speaker 1: Daniels because I guess in the grand scheme, it looks
- 5:06Speaker 1: like a pretty good deal. But when you give someone
- 5:09Speaker 1: more money financially, then you bring a few quarterbacks in
- 5:13Speaker 1: on official visits. When it comes to the negotiation part,
- 5:16Speaker 1: I remind you, these quarterbacks had FSU first as far
- 5:20Speaker 1: as their official visit list in the portal. So they
- 5:22Speaker 1: really wanted to come to FSU.
- 5:23Speaker 2: They feel like that could be their next destination in
- 5:25Speaker 2: and out. Quarterbacks usually don't really go through these long
- 5:27Speaker 2: charades and that type of deal, right? So we had
- 5:30Speaker 2: two quarterbacks on campus that took their first official visit
- 5:33Speaker 2: to FSU. Then when it came to negotiation times, we
- 5:36Speaker 2: kind of low-balled them, right? And then you give a
- 5:38Speaker 2: running back who, hell, he has to be a starter
- 5:41Speaker 2: now in Trey Wiles due to the two catastrophic injuries.
- 5:44Speaker 2: You had Sam Singleton and Usman Kroma. But you give
- 5:47Speaker 2: a running back, from Texas who, granted, wasn't a starter
- 5:51Speaker 2: from Texas last year, but the year before he was
- 5:53Speaker 2: at 1,000 yards in Texas. You give him a hefty
- 5:55Speaker 2: bag out of the transfer portal when that bag shouldn't
- 5:58Speaker 2: have really been warranted when you had sturdy running backs
- 6:00Speaker 2: on the roster. Now, in hindsight, we had to– well,
- 6:03Speaker 2: we didn't have to spend that much money, but we
- 6:04Speaker 2: had to bring in a running back for sure. That
- 6:06Speaker 2: money could have been allocated more to the quarterback position,
- 6:10Speaker 2: more to the offensive line position, whatever it may be.
- 6:12Speaker 2: And then you get held hostage annually by– players from
- 6:17Speaker 2: the previous years. Both the Desir twins held you hostage
- 6:20Speaker 2: when it came to more NIL dollars having performed to
- 6:23Speaker 2: the money they're getting.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Jabril Rawls, another guy.
- 6:28Speaker 2: That flirted with going into the transfer portal, got a
- 6:30Speaker 2: healthy NIL back from FSU, having played up to the
- 6:36Speaker 2: standard as far as the performance has been worse this
- 6:41Speaker 2: year than it was last year.
- 6:43Speaker 1: So, yeah, we need to put more money into the program.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I do believe that, but for the right coach.
- 6:47Speaker 2: I don't believe giving more, throwing more money at this
- 6:51Speaker 2: program is not fixing the issue, especially when you have
- 6:53Speaker 2: people who have money in certain situations that don't know
- 6:56Speaker 2: how to allocate the money to the correct spots.
- 6:59Speaker 1: So what is that going to do?
- 7:00Speaker 2: And going back to the catch a break part, like
- 7:02Speaker 2: I was stating, it's 10 and 21. We the fans
- 7:05Speaker 2: can't catch a damn break. He's 10 and 21 in
- 7:09Speaker 2: the last three years. Like what break are we talking about?
- 7:13Speaker 2: What break are we talking about? You struggle with New
- 7:17Speaker 2: Mexico State the first game. Like, what break are we
- 7:20Speaker 2: talking about? Are we talking about how Miami ended? That's
- 7:24Speaker 2: like a small sample size than the last. That's one
- 7:27Speaker 2: game out of 31 that you can say, quote, unquote,
- 7:31Speaker 2: he couldn't catch a break.
- 7:32Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.
- 7:33Speaker 2: But to use that as the totality since the 23 season,
- 7:38Speaker 2: we're in year seven. This is year seven. And granted,
- 7:41Speaker 2: we're not finished with year seven, but we're three and
- 7:44Speaker 2: four under 500 right now in year seven. Say you
- 7:47Speaker 2: X out the three and seven. I'm sorry, the three
- 7:50Speaker 2: and four, my apology. We're three and four right now,
- 7:52Speaker 2: not three and seven.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Three and four.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Say you X out this year as far as the
- 7:57Speaker 2: last three years. Three and four, we X out this year.
- 8:03Speaker 2: That doesn't take away from the previous years. You go
- 8:05Speaker 2: two and ten, five and seven, this, that, and the third.
- 8:08Speaker 2: What breaker are we talking about? What breaker are we
- 8:13Speaker 2: talking about? I really believe the worst possible situation happened
- 8:16Speaker 2: to us against the Miami Hurricanes. When I say the
- 8:18Speaker 2: worst possible situation, that's, of course, losing to the Canes.
- 8:21Speaker 2: You never want to lose to them. But playing Miami close,
- 8:24Speaker 2: leaving a certain few plays that FSU had within that
- 8:28Speaker 2: game up for discussion. Of course, the Phantom Hold'em call,
- 8:33Speaker 2: the back-to-back, the very next play, the Hail Mary catch
- 8:36Speaker 2: by Deuce, both of those were touchdowns. So it leaves
- 8:39Speaker 2: you the wiggle room like, oh, hey, They play those
- 8:42Speaker 2: guys close, but if you go this route of war,
- 8:44Speaker 2: if the ref does this or doesn't make that call,
- 8:48Speaker 2: you never know. You leave that gray area. No one
- 8:52Speaker 2: has more lives than Mike Norvell. He truly has nine lives.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It's crazy. But to say.
- 8:59Speaker 2: You can't catch a break or to use the Miami
- 9:02Speaker 2: game as an excuse to give more time is just
- 9:04Speaker 2: crazy to me. What more do you need to see
- 9:07Speaker 2: from this tenure to know that It just isn't what
- 9:10Speaker 2: it is as far as getting FSU back or being
- 9:13Speaker 2: the right fit for FSU. The administration seems to be incompetent.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Don't give a damn, excuse me, to be quite honest.
- 9:22Speaker 2: You have more of a sample size within these last
- 9:26Speaker 2: six of what Mike Norvell is. We know what a
- 9:28Speaker 2: sample size is. We're not beating Miami. Even if we
- 9:32Speaker 2: would have won against Miami last week, what is that
- 9:35Speaker 2: telling you? What does that tell you? He's the right
- 9:37Speaker 2: guy for the job? Clearly, we know that isn't the case.
- 9:42Speaker 2: So what exactly is that telling you? We've seen this
- 9:43Speaker 2: before as well, too, from FSU. Playing close against Miami
- 9:47Speaker 2: or possibly even beating Miami last week wouldn't have been
- 9:49Speaker 2: a surprise to me. FSU is too inconsistent as a team,
- 9:55Speaker 2: and that's the frustrating part. It's way too inconsistent as
- 9:58Speaker 2: a team. That is the frustrating part. Play well against Miami.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Play well in other aspects of the season. And I
- 10:02Speaker 2: feel like there's more reason to move on. That's just
- 10:05Speaker 2: the inconsistency, the up and down pendulum swing of FSU.
- 10:10Speaker 2: It's just way too inconsistent. That's something we've been having
- 10:13Speaker 2: an issue with since Mike Norvell quite frankly has been
- 10:17Speaker 2: the head coach.
- 10:18Speaker 1: You go to.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Devil overtime against Miami, who's one of the most talented
- 10:22Speaker 2: teams in the country. You boat race Alabama for close
- 10:25Speaker 2: to a half, and then you clearly just throw that
- 10:27Speaker 2: out the window and all hell breaks loose against Alabama.
- 10:31Speaker 1: You struggle against New Mexico State.
- 10:33Speaker 2: You go from almost making Louisville quit in that game,
- 10:35Speaker 2: going on 21-0, to getting embarrassed by Louisville, the 44-6 run. Hell,
- 10:40Speaker 2: going back to 2021, you lose to an FCS team
- 10:44Speaker 2: in Jacksonville State. The first time in program history. you
- 10:50Speaker 2: lose to FCS school in Jacksonville State, that same year
- 10:54Speaker 2: you beat Miami. Like it's too many highs and lows.
- 10:58Speaker 2: There's no consistency within the program. If you want to win,
- 11:02Speaker 2: I guess aside from 22 and 23, which is clearly
- 11:06Speaker 2: blinding a lot of people and protecting Mike Norvell, but
- 11:08Speaker 2: that's another conversation for a different day.
- 11:10Speaker 1: But again, this is what he's been like.
- 11:13Speaker 2: We, you don't, that's not a, indication of good leadership
- 11:16Speaker 2: or good coaching, in my opinion, because you can't get
- 11:19Speaker 2: these guys to play up to their potential on a
- 11:23Speaker 2: week-to-week basis. Yes, it's easy to give for a few
- 11:26Speaker 2: games and play good in certain areas, but then you
- 11:29Speaker 2: play great in certain games, you maybe question everything else
- 11:33Speaker 2: in other games.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Like you dominate Virginia.
- 11:34Speaker 2: We've seen this team can be good. I've been on record,
- 11:38Speaker 2: I believe this is an eight- to nine-win team from
- 11:40Speaker 2: a roster standpoint, but there's something in between the lines
- 11:43Speaker 2: that's blocking this team from reaching its full potential, in my.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Opinion, that starts from the top down, and it starts
- 11:49Speaker 1: with the head coach.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Maybe it's a stale message that we've been receiving since 2020,
- 11:54Speaker 2: whatever it is, we're just too inconsistent as a program,
- 11:57Speaker 2: and it's literally been inconsistent since the time Mike Norvell
- 12:00Speaker 2: had stepped on campus. Going back to 2020, even though
- 12:04Speaker 2: I think 2020 was a fluke year, a bullshit year,
- 12:07Speaker 2: especially for Mike Norvell, I really don't count that against him.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Brand new head coach into a Terrible situation at Florida
- 12:14Speaker 2: State at that point in time. The COVID hit. Sniper
- 12:16Speaker 2: didn't recruit. All that type of deal. But you go
- 12:19Speaker 2: back to 2020, we beat a top five team in
- 12:21Speaker 2: North Carolina. You know, you get boat raced against whoever
- 12:25Speaker 2: the rest of that year. I think we played Notre
- 12:27Speaker 2: Dame in 2020 or something along the way. I'm going
- 12:29Speaker 2: to look at the schedule real quick. The 2020 FSU schedule.
- 12:36Speaker 2: When no one gave you a chance against, and that
- 12:39Speaker 2: team was, well, nobody gave you a chance against Notre
- 12:44Speaker 2: Dame against North Carolina, who was a top five team
- 12:48Speaker 2: during that point in time.
- 12:57Speaker 1: You lose 52-10 against Miami. 42-26 against Notre Dame. 48-16
- 13:01Speaker 1: against Louisville. We got boat raced in that 2020 year.
- 13:04Speaker 1: But then again, you go to a.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Play a top-five team with North Carolina, Sam Howell and
- 13:14Speaker 2: all that type of deal, and you beat those guys.
- 13:16Speaker 2: So since the beginning of Mike Novell's tenure, we've been
- 13:19Speaker 2: way too inconsistent, and that's an issue, in my opinion.
- 13:22Speaker 2: It just shows that he's not the guy for the
- 13:23Speaker 2: job because you're a good coach and elite coach.
- 13:25Speaker 1: I'm not saying elite coach.
- 13:27Speaker 2: A good coach for a P5 program at FSU has
- 13:29Speaker 2: to get those guys to play the same way they
- 13:31Speaker 2: play against New Mexico State.
- 13:32Speaker 1: They play against Miami. The same way they play against Miami,
- 13:35Speaker 1: they play against Louisville. If you look at the body-bound 90s,
- 13:43Speaker 1: the Jim O.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Fisher good years and things like that, we killed the
- 13:48Speaker 2: fly with a sledgehammer. We dominated those opponents who were consistent.
- 13:53Speaker 2: And that's the thing, man. That's holding FSU back, in
- 13:55Speaker 2: my opinion. So, yeah, you can say you're going to
- 13:57Speaker 2: throw more money at this, that, and the third, but
- 13:59Speaker 2: at the same time, the teams we're losing to, we
- 14:01Speaker 2: spend way more money than in the first place. But
- 14:04Speaker 2: at the same time, I do actually feel bad for
- 14:06Speaker 2: Mike Novell. He has to sit up and have the
- 14:09Speaker 2: same one outlook in these press conferences being asked every
- 14:14Speaker 2: week about his job status.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Pretty much he's being held hostage by FSU in my opinion.
- 14:18Speaker 2: He showed multiple times he isn't fit for the job,
- 14:21Speaker 2: and yet they're keeping him in power. It's not on
- 14:25Speaker 2: Mike Norvell at this point in time. He showed us
- 14:28Speaker 2: who he is. He showed us this job is too
- 14:30Speaker 2: big for him. It's on the employer now to recognize
- 14:33Speaker 2: that and make a move on that. So I'm not
- 14:35Speaker 2: placing blame on Norvell at all anymore. My frustration is
- 14:38Speaker 2: directly with FSU's administration, the team, the guys that's continually
- 14:42Speaker 2: putting an unfit person in power to run a program.
- 14:45Speaker 2: That's the issue. Keeping him from this year to next
- 14:49Speaker 2: year isn't a huge loss in ways financially. In comparison
- 14:53Speaker 2: to what you will lose from the fan base that
- 14:55Speaker 2: has checked out going into another offseason of lackluster recruiting,
- 14:59Speaker 2: like right in the 40s or some shit in fucking recruiting.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Like, this is Florida. What are we doing? This is
- 15:09Speaker 1: Florida State. What are we even talking about?
- 15:11Speaker 2: You're literally in the 30s, 40s, whatever it is in recruiting.
- 15:17Speaker 2: There's no momentum there. You're not going to have any
- 15:20Speaker 2: momentum on the transfer portal trail. Now you say you're
- 15:23Speaker 2: going to pour more money into the program. You've got
- 15:25Speaker 2: to pay a sub-tax. A sub-tax. You've got to pay
- 15:28Speaker 2: these players extra money to come to your program because
- 15:31Speaker 2: the program is so damn sorry.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Good players, right? Florida State, quote-unquote, caliber players.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Even though it's not the actual Florida State caliber players,
- 15:39Speaker 2: it's Mike Norvell's Florida State caliber players. But to that point,
- 15:43Speaker 2: you got to play Mike Norvell's caliber Florida State players,
- 15:48Speaker 2: a subtext in the transfer portal, because FSU isn't good.
- 15:51Speaker 2: They go to other programs where they can be coached
- 15:52Speaker 2: up and be competent in that type of deal. So
- 15:54Speaker 2: you're spending more money in that end. Fans aren't going
- 15:57Speaker 2: to be packing out Doe Camel Stadium. The worst job
- 16:00Speaker 2: in America right now is to be a season ticket
- 16:02Speaker 2: sales rep for Florida State. You got to call these
- 16:04Speaker 2: people trying to convince them to renew and come to
- 16:08Speaker 2: the games next year after three years of lackluster.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Performances and things of that nature. I think ticket sales
- 16:18Speaker 1: will plummet.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Try to put a ban on the situation, quote-unquote, by what,
- 16:22Speaker 2: firing Tony White, which is going to be wasting more money,
- 16:24Speaker 2: paying him a buyout, bringing in a new defense coordinator,
- 16:27Speaker 2: bringing in some guys for the new coordinator staff. I mean, granted,
- 16:30Speaker 2: the defense is completely trash. Offense is straight. But again,
- 16:33Speaker 2: he's a reflection of Mike Norvell. Mike Norvell hired the guy.
- 16:36Speaker 2: So start from the top down, in my opinion. We'll
- 16:39Speaker 2: see how things play out within the next few weeks,
- 16:41Speaker 2: but wins won't be an indicator of change, in my opinion.
- 16:44Speaker 1: We can win out the rest of this year.
- 16:47Speaker 2: The rest of this year, we can win out, and
- 16:48Speaker 2: it won't be an indication that Norvell's the right guy
- 16:51Speaker 2: for the job or FSU is on the turning point.
- 16:54Speaker 2: And the reason I say it is, look at Clemson.
- 16:56Speaker 2: We have Clemson this upcoming week. Clemson clearly isn't the
- 16:59Speaker 2: same Clemson. Terrible offense. Don't have the guys at quarterback, receiver,
- 17:03Speaker 2: and that type of deal. Pittsburgh, who's like 5-1 right now,
- 17:06Speaker 2: who's off to a hot start, has lost their starting quarterback,
- 17:10Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks in the ACC in Mason Hynchell.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Lost to Boston College last week as a result of that.
- 17:15Speaker 2: So Pittsburgh clearly isn't the same. So that's two of
- 17:21Speaker 2: the five games. I'm just going to put the rest
- 17:23Speaker 2: of the schedule. Those are some of the highlight games. And,
- 17:25Speaker 2: of course, Florida, but you never know what kind of
- 17:27Speaker 2: Florida team you'll get. So I say all that to
- 17:29Speaker 2: say this. If he does, we're not going to lose
- 17:32Speaker 2: one game, whatever it may be. Is that really– given
- 17:34Speaker 2: a true indication that the program is back on uptake.
- 17:38Speaker 2: You can look at who you're playing in their situation
- 17:40Speaker 2: within their programs. But again, FSU fans, you have the
- 17:45Speaker 2: right to be upset. You have the right to be
- 17:47Speaker 2: voicing your opinion about your frustration. Don't ever feel like,
- 17:50Speaker 2: and you guys know me, especially from Twitter and that
- 17:52Speaker 2: type of deal, I'm an even-keeled kind of guy.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I don't really indulge in that type of stuff. I mean,
- 17:56Speaker 1: enough is enough. Goddamn.
- 17:58Speaker 2: We got to see the light and move on. We
- 18:00Speaker 2: preach standard, but the turnaround... We preach standard in that
- 18:04Speaker 2: type of deal, but they turn around and slap you
- 18:06Speaker 2: in the face because we're clearly not practicing what we
- 18:08Speaker 2: preach in certain areas as far as carrying the standard
- 18:11Speaker 2: at Florida State.
- 18:12Speaker 1: That's my takes. Miss you guys. Hit that like and
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- 18:17Speaker 2: whole administration is handling things, letting it play out.
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