Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Purple Wax & Pinhook: Bourbon, Wine & Kentucky Racehorses
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- 0:03Incredible flavours, even better stories. One pour,
- 0:0610 minutes. Aussie Bourbon Lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:14Oh, got a little pop there, Dave. I'm okay with it. What are we drinking
- 0:17tonight, Edge? We're drinking a Pinhook Single Barrel Bourbon.
- 0:23It's a cask strength, and This particular
- 0:27single barrel was picked by the Whiskey Hunt Australia guys.
- 0:32Yeah, I know, see, you can't get the— Very hard to get focus with this
- 0:35clever thing, isn't it? Yeah, I know. He's trying to get the cool picture in
- 0:38focus. It's got a beautiful sketch of a horse on the front.
- 0:42And can I just say, when you bought this bottle, I was very excited.
- 0:46And this sounds very shallow, but— Come on, how shallow could it be?
- 0:50It's dipped in purple wax, and I thought that was really pretty.
- 0:53Whoa, quick straw poll. Is that pink or purple?
- 0:57Fuchsia? Well, I would say violet. I'd say purple.
- 1:01But I just, you know, it's like going to the races and picking a horse
- 1:03based on the color of, you know, it's what the jockey's wearing.
- 1:07Well, this one I was very happy because the wax was purple.
- 1:11Cheers. But I have to be honest,
- 1:14Dave, I don't know much about Pinhook Kentucky Straight
- 1:18Bourbon Whiskey. Okay. I do know that you know a couple of facts, so I'm
- 1:21going to I, I, I know a little bit. I knew
- 1:25a little bit already. It's, it's quite a cool— it's a super distinctive,
- 1:29um, looking bottle, and the bottles are super distinctive looking.
- 1:33They're very wine bottle looking. Looks like a, like a white wine. What a fun
- 1:36way to start this off. They all— the thing I
- 1:41love a lot about Pinhook as a brand—
- 1:44can I just do brand stuff first? Wait, what are we getting on the nose?
- 1:47No, no, do brand stuff. Okay, I want to hear the story. Is that on
- 1:50a shelf, I've had this deep desire. This is the first bottle of Pinhook we've
- 1:53owned. I've had a deep desire to buy heaps of them. The wax colour's different.
- 1:57They all look roughly the same. They've all got different pictures of horses. They're pretty
- 2:01cool bottles, and I've wanted to have heaps. I've nearly flown some back from the
- 2:04US because they're really easy to get over there, but I haven't done it.
- 2:07Where'd you get this bottle? This one was a Whiskey
- 2:11Hunt Australia pick. So actually, I just bought it in Australia.
- 2:15King Hooker, really cool. They've got quite a good reputation. It's 3
- 2:19mates and one of them is
- 2:22a sommelier. Oh cool. That's not an easy thing
- 2:26to be. Sure. No,
- 2:29I think it's not easy to be and it's quite a specialized thing to be.
- 2:32But the wine thing is actually a theme that runs through
- 2:36a lot of what they do. So the wine bottle is just the start of
- 2:38it. It's deliberately made to look like a wine bottle that isn't just like Yeah,
- 2:41you didn't just get lucky there. Yeah, no, I was like, oh, it looks like
- 2:44a— but it really does. It looks like a white
- 2:48wine bottle you'd pull off the shelf with the bottle opener. 100%.
- 2:51Yep. What are you getting on the nose? Any— I'm getting like green apples.
- 2:55Oh yeah, it's very fruity. Really fruity. In fact,
- 2:59oh, that's nice. Like lovely. I would describe it as
- 3:03fresh. Yeah, yeah. Fresh caramel. Like a really Like
- 3:07orchard, like a fresh, fresh, like— Don't say no.
- 3:11My tasting notes are my tasting notes. You have your own tasting notes. I don't
- 3:13mind. That is true. You can have an orchard. I'm having apples with caramel.
- 3:18That is true. Everybody's tasting notes are correct. There's no such thing as
- 3:22the wrong, wrong nose or wrong flavors when it comes to bourbon.
- 3:26There's an interesting something else there. What else is this? Almost like gummy bears.
- 3:30Is that weird? Oh, that's, that's unusual. But Okay.
- 3:33It's correct, Dave, if that's what you're getting.
- 3:37Maybe that's where you discredit me. No, no. Gummy bears you'd go with.
- 3:41Oh yeah. And then right in there, that's that really like caramelly
- 3:46vanilla. I could nose it all day. It's like very, it's like refreshing.
- 3:50It's a lovely, it's a
- 3:54lovely warmth to it as well. Good structure, like a really
- 3:58good structured. It goes straight around my whole mouth. Yeah. Sometimes it
- 4:02sits in different places on your tongue or goes straight to the back of your
- 4:05mouth. That's kind of like almost like a, like a light
- 4:09explosion in your mouth. A light explosion? Well, like, that's— they wouldn't
- 4:13have talked about that in World War II, would they? No, but like, it's like
- 4:17it just went to my whole mouth. It's like, I don't even know how
- 4:20to describe it. But sure, I love it. Like,
- 4:23like when you're eating fairy floss, it's like the sugar all melts and goes everywhere.
- 4:27That kind of a light explosion, like eating fairy floss.
- 4:31This is amazing. I actually— I'm probably going to lean into the idea
- 4:35that it could potentially be a little bit like a fairy
- 4:38floss experience because of the lightness of it. Well, it's giving me like,
- 4:42like show, you know, or in America they call them
- 4:46fairs, like the toffee apples and, and fairy
- 4:50floss and funnel cake. Funnel cake. Yeah.
- 4:54Righto, mate. Nah, good on you. Excellent. Good. So there's a few things wrong.
- 4:58What's that? You just told me there's no such thing as a wrong answer.
- 5:00There's no such thing as a wrong answer. So there's a few things here that
- 5:02they, that these 3 mates did. So tell me, there's a few things.
- 5:06So obviously one of the mates is a restaurateur, sommelier.
- 5:09One of the mates is a TV producer. And they basically in 2010, they go,
- 5:13righto, we've got 20 barrels of whisky. What are we going to do with it?
- 5:16And so they go, well, let's, let's make whisky. They've got this interest
- 5:20in horses, these 3 guys. Yeah. And they go,
- 5:24righto, let's go. What a good time. What a really good time, I think,
- 5:28to be— you need to find yourself with 20 barrels,
- 5:31restaurateur and a sommelier. Dave, you can be the TV producer. And missed my
- 5:35window on that. But so they do a few things. The first one is that
- 5:38they're— it's sourced, non-distilling producer
- 5:43is the way we describe this. Yeah, I think very openly had
- 5:47been MGP, then went to Castle Key. So there's like a clear
- 5:50shift between when they were at one and the other. When I say clear,
- 5:53I mean I think they disclose it all anyway, but that's part of it.
- 5:56Yeah. The wine
- 6:00thing carries through here because they're not trying to release this consistent product.
- 6:03If you think about like a Maker's Mark or Wild Turkey or even Michter's,
- 6:07every brand's got a very distinct flavor. Every year they want it to always taste
- 6:10the same. Buffalo Trace, is it the master blender
- 6:15from Buffalo Trace said that he's tasting the original
- 6:19bottle of Buffalo Trace from whatever it is, 1999 or
- 6:22whatever it is, and trying to make Buffalo Trace in 2026 taste like that still.
- 6:23He's trying trying to get that same flavour profile.
- 6:27I'm sure they're all trying to do a version of that, but that's a really
- 6:30interesting idea. But these guys are mixing up the flavour profile. They're not trying to
- 6:32do that. They're not trying to do that. Every year's a new release and it's
- 6:34a new flavour profile. So that's fun. So that's the way that wines treat vintages.
- 6:38This vintage is this thing. And so they're really kind of leaning into that.
- 6:41That's fun. That is fun. 2 of them have
- 6:46this real kind of rich history of horse racing.
- 6:49So that's where these horse things come from. So what you often see is these
- 6:54pictures of horses on the label. And I think I could be wrong about this.
- 6:58Be ready to fact-check me. That, that oftentimes
- 7:02they name the expressions after winners of big
- 7:07horse races, potentially Kentucky Derby and stuff like that. But like, they name after real
- 7:10horses. But the name Pinhook actually has a place in like
- 7:16thoroughbred lore, which is A pinhook is
- 7:20a horse that's been bought very young. Yeah. And then
- 7:24raised for a few years and then sold for a profit.
- 7:28Yeah. So you buy a very young horse, look after it and
- 7:32get it a few years old and then sell it either to race or to
- 7:34be a sire or whatever. The right— I don't know. I'm not a horse racing
- 7:38guy, but like that idea. Yeah. And so they're doing the same thing, but with
- 7:42whisky, they're buying brand new distillate freshly
- 7:45in a barrel. They take that from the distillery and they'll age themselves and then
- 7:50they blend as well, of course. And then they sell it. That's cool.
- 7:54This one's a single barrel though, so I don't think this is— oh, this one
- 7:57must be blended. No. Yeah, that's fun. And they obviously,
- 8:00you said they use lots of different color waxes. Well, and I don't know if
- 8:04there's like a rule about what the color waxes mean, but there's
- 8:08definitely lots of color waxes. This is the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like that.
- 8:12Yeah. And isn't that funny? Like that I was like, It looks like a wine
- 8:15bottle and I had no idea that that was a very deliberate
- 8:19choice. This is a real— they're really doing a thing here. I love the detail
- 8:22that goes into everything. So it's not just the liquid inside,
- 8:26it's like the design of the bottle and the name of it and the history
- 8:29of it. Like, I just love the stories behind bourbon. I think,
- 8:34you know, I obviously enjoy drinking it, but I think my favorite thing is the
- 8:39people and the stories. It's like so good. It's pretty cool and it's hard to
- 8:42think about this kind of like process of being a
- 8:46source product, they kind of classically non-chill
- 8:50filtered. That's like, I think they do. Yeah. Source product with
- 8:54a really strong brand. And I think Pinhook is one of these great ones.
- 8:57I think everyone talks about Penelope a lot. Yeah. Penelope is this great story of
- 9:00being an MGP product. Yeah. That then was so good that the MGP guys bought
- 9:04it back. But yeah, I feel like Pinhook is also in this classic, you know,
- 9:07in this category. Well, like obviously your marketing and your
- 9:10story when you're sourced play a huge part
- 9:13in how you connect with people because like you're obviously going to
- 9:18be making good stuff. Like, but yeah,
- 9:22I just think it's really cool.
- 9:26Yeah, I really like it. This particular bottle was aged 5 years.
- 9:30Yeah, it's not an old one. No. And they would do a single barrel selection.
- 9:33I don't know how this all particularly goes. Very easy drinking.
- 9:36Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I just like how refreshing it is.
- 9:41If you're playing along in Australia, this is, you can probably still get a bottle
- 9:44of this. 115 proof, 57.5%. It was a 2025.
- 9:48Oh, it's fun. Really? It's got the barrel number 3174. There you go. And it's
- 9:52a single barrel. But this is this great thing. I think I say this over
- 9:55and over again. If you're an Aussie and you have access to buy one of
- 9:58these single barrels, we really think you should get amongst it because the more
- 10:02single barrel, like barrel picks that Aussie groups like Whiskey Hunt do or
- 10:06any of these guys do. Yeah. When anyone's doing a barrel pick, if it—
- 10:11if you're able to support them, it means that they can do more and we
- 10:13can get more stuff that isn't readily available in Australia out here.
- 10:17Exactly. Which we like. Horses are such an important part of
- 10:21Kentucky culture and it kind of sits so neatly alongside bourbon.
- 10:25And, you know, Woodford do a bit of it. A few of the brands do
- 10:28a bit of it. You know, with the Kentucky Mule and stuff around the Kentucky
- 10:31Derby and stuff, there's a fair bit that bounces around. But yeah, there's not many
- 10:33bourbon labels that put the horse on the, on the bottle. Yeah, well, Blanton has
- 10:37it on there, on the stopper. The stopper, that's true. But yeah,
- 10:41they kind of, they go hand in hand really,
- 10:45the bourbon and Kentuckian horses. That's it. Well, what a pleasure
- 10:49it is to be drinking some Pinhook with you, H. Yeah, with purple wax.
- 10:52Here's to finding some more different colored waxes and getting
- 10:56some more fancy colors in our collection. Yeah, actually getting some more
- 11:00Pinhook. Cheers.
- 11:02Cheers. Thanks for listening.
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