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Weekly Dose of Fat – 5-31-14 – with Tim Moore from REEB Cycles – Show #6 · Full Spectrum Cycling

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  Weekly dose of fat for Saturday, May 31st, 2014, show number six.
• 0:09
  [upbeat music] Fatbike.com, the world's number one resource for information on fat bike products, event and race coverage, interviews, and living the fat bike lifestyle presents Fat Bike Radio with your hosts, Sven and Gomez.
• 0:38
  Check it out, people. This is Gomez Alejandro Santana Delago coming to you from the Fat Bike Radio studios in the beer capital of America, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And this is Sven. And you know what?
• 0:52
  We brought back Colin Ford to the studio to provide some color commentary during today's broadcast. Our show this week is sponsored by Surly, those kind and helpful boys and girls from Surly.
• 1:03
  That's a bilingual show for you folks. Check them out at surlybikes.com.
• 1:14
  You can find all of our shows at fatbike.com\radio. [upbeat music] And look for us on Facebook and Twitter. We've got a great show lined up for you today.
• 1:31
  We have Tim Moore from Reeb Cycles as our special guest later in the show. Colin Ford is back as our color announcer, ROYGBV.
• 1:40
  [laughs] We're going to share some fat bike events where you might just run into Sven, Colin, myself. Yeah. Maybe even Sasquatch. And as always, we'll let you know what's cooking in the test kitchen.
• 1:54
  Ah, dudes, I think you guys forgot something. What's that, Colin? Beer. Beer. Beer. All right. What, what's in the Fat Bike Radio cooler today?
• 2:03
  Our selection this week is in honor of our special guest, Senor Team from Reeb. That's beer- Wait for it... spelled backwards. Reeb is owned by the guys from Oskar Blues Brewery. Is it Dale's Pale Ale? Nope.
• 2:18
  This week, the show's beer buzz will be provided by Old Chub Scotch Ale. From the left-hand side of the six-pack. These are left-handed beers. Here you go, boys. And yeah. [laughs] Ooh.
• 2:37
  Oh, dude. Delicious. That's some good stuff right there. That's like the Coca-Cola of beer. [laughs] It's a scotch ale. Old Chub Scotch Ale. It's, uh, 8%. It's deliciously malty, tons of malt.
• 2:52
  Not many hops in this beer at all. Very caramely and, uh, a little bit of roasted flavor, but- It's an approachable beer for those of you who don't think you like dark beer.
• 3:04
  Yeah, and it's, it's definitely got some body to it. You know, it's not a beer you're gonna drink 18 of. It's beer. That, that 8% will catch up with you, folks. And not end up in jail.
• 3:13
  [laughs] [laughs] On the can it says it's like Sputnik, orbital. Right on.
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  One of the reasons, besides it's a good beer to drink, that we picked D- Dale's this week is the tie in with Reeb, and also that Dale's beer has always come in cans.
• 3:31
  Maybe Colin can enlighten us a little bit on how Oskar Blues decided that cans are the way to go for a, for a high-quality microbrew. Oh, yeah, what's up with your can? Yeah.
• 3:39
  [laughs] It's, uh, it's hard and made of metal. Um, [laughs] the dudes at Oskar Blues are one of the first breweries to push, like, full-time cans.
• 3:49
  They did it because of the simple fact that you can bring cans into the wilderness with you on your bike, in your canoe, hiking, whatever. It's recyclable. It's light. It gets cold faster.
• 4:02
  You don't get l- light struck beer from the sun. You could make a weed pipe out of it if you need to. Only in Colorado or Washington. That's right, boys and girls. Be legal out there, folks. [laughs] That's right.
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  In fact, uh, the- Handy instructions... Oskar Blues can has, uh, has the instructions right on there. Is that the Sputnik? Maybe that's it.
• 4:20
  [laughs] It's hard to believe that Dale's Pale Ale has been around for a dozen years. It's a great brewery. They're really making strides in their, uh, their expansion into North Carolina. I hope it goes well for them.
• 4:32
  Promised land over there with New Belgium and Sierra Nevada right around the corner. All righty then. Let's get Tim on the line and talk about fat bikes.
• 4:41
  Yeah, we're gonna continue our series that we started out last week with Adam Blake, and talk to the all-stars of the industry about their personal fat bike. Fat bizzle.
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  We'll be back with special guest Tim Moore from Reeb Cycles after a word from our sponsor. [upbeat music] Have you ever had a saddle sore so long that you named it Doris?
• 5:07
  Does your gooch feel like something between sandpaper and turkey skin? Well, then you need Reamer Brothers Grumble Butter.
• 5:15
  Just apply a big old double finger dab, spoosh, of Reamer Brothers Grumble Butter in your shorts before a long ride, and the process to transform that old leathery taint into a silky yet bulletproof gooch will begin almost immediately.
• 5:32
  Spoosh. Reamer Brothers Grumble Butter, just try and find it. Welcome back. Sven and I want to welcome Tim Moore to the weekly dose of fat. Welcome, team. Hey, Tim. Hey, guys. How's it going? It's going awesome.
• 5:48
  Yep, been, been a good week here. So, uh- Cool, cool. Same here... before we get into your bike, let's share with the audience the story behind how beer and Reeb and the beer hall all works together. Okay. Yeah, sure
• 6:05
  You know, if you know Oskar Blues, you probably know us from, you know, mountain bike race scenes and that sort of thing. And, uh, you know, bikes have been a big part of Oskar Blues for a long time.
• 6:16
  Um, you know, th- actually owning a bike company, uh, for Dale, owner of Oskar Blues, started when, um, one of his favorite bikes was stolen, um, off of a car rack [laughs] uh, in Denver I think is where it happened.
• 6:29
  And, uh, rather than at that point buying a, you know, another Taiwanese-made bike, he's kind of the type of guy to, to, you know, do it himself anyway.
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  So found a welder, um, Chris Sullivan, the welder, and, uh, welding bikes for, for us for three years now and, uh, I think is one of the best welders around.
• 6:48
  And, uh, we found him, got him welding a few bikes for people to test around the brewery and, uh, now we're at, you know, shooting for 300 bikes this year.
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  So it's funny how, how quickly things kind of move along when you're just doing what you love. Very cool. That's great. Nice. So let's get into, uh, your personal fat bike.
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  It's, uh, the Rebu- Rebadonkadonk you're rocking. [laughs] Yeah, yeah. So we kinda, you know, a lot of times shorten it to the Donk just to, to keep it simple. And, uh, so I've got a, the medium Donk frame.
• 7:18
  It's, uh, the frame itself is made of True Temper OX Platinum, so US-made steel, welded here in Longmont, Colorado by our welder Chris.
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  Um, we use, you know, small bits from Paragon Machine Works, so the behead tube, bottom bracket shell, the dropouts, uh, to get the nice sliding dropout. So that's my frame.
• 7:35
  Um, I've run my bike with lots of different configurations, but, uh, the, the configuration I find the, I suppose the most versatile and that I find on my bike mostly is, uh, you know, we run our 170 rear end, so, um, I've used, uh, several different hubs on the rear end.
• 7:52
  But right now I actually have a Salsa hub on there and, uh, kind of medium width rims with the Marges Lights. I'm sorry, not Marges Lights, the, uh, Rolling Dais.
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  And then, uh, same, same rim up front and, uh, a wide tire in the front is what I usually like.
• 8:05
  So the Buzz really seems to work well for me, and then I run something a bit narrower like the Neat in the back to keep it rolling a little faster, but still floating well.
• 8:14
  Fork, I've gone through lots of different forks, but right now I use a, uh, and probably one of my favorites is the, um, MRP fat fork. Used to be called White Brothers, uh, Snowpak. Right.
• 8:25
  It's, uh, pretty much the same fork rebranded MRP. They're the parent company for White Brothers, so they're dropping that White Brothers name this year. Nice.
• 8:33
  Um- So let's just skip back- You know- Can I skip back to, uh, your drivetrain? Sure. Are you running single speed or are you running one by 10, one by 11?
• 8:45
  You know, right now I'm running one by 10 on it, which seems work well for, for heavier snow and, uh, you know, that sort of stuff.
• 8:51
  Right now what I found worked really well last rain, um, like this afternoon I'm hoping to get up for a ride and we're gonna go see up high in the mountains here how, how melted out things are.
• 9:01
  And for that sort of riding I've found that, uh, another setup actually works really well.
• 9:05
  Um, when it's kind of, you know, a bit sloppy here and there, but then some kind of crusty snowpack to roll over, single speed belt drive seems to work really well.
• 9:12
  We use the Gates Carbon drive a lot, you know, where in soft snow in the middle of winter I don't, I don't always [laughs] wanna run a single speed, but this- Sure...
• 9:20
  time of year it just, the, the durability in, in, uh, wet, rainy kind of conditions, um, is amazing. So, you know, it's, uh, you know, the bike that you don't have to worry about.
• 9:30
  Yeah, also for those conditions, one thing I've found that works really well is the, uh, our frame will also run the, uh, 29 plus setup, so we've got the whole rims and, and knard tires, uh, from Shirley tend to work pretty well on that sort of mixed condition sort of stuff where you're going through wet pine needles and then over snow drifts and back into wet pine needles and a little mud here and there.
• 9:51
  That works really well. Yeah. Are all, are all the Donk frames set up out of the box to use with the belt drive or is that an option? Yeah, absolutely.
• 9:58
  All of our, all of our frames, whether it be fat bike or a mountain bike, are all belt drive compatible as well as geared compatible.
• 10:06
  Since we use that Paragon sliding dropout, it's very simple to just, uh, swap things out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a good one for sure. Gives you a lot of versatility with different hub configurations and whatnot.
• 10:16
  And like I said, only, uh- Absolutely... leaves, uh, what kind of crank are you running on your drivetrain?
• 10:21
  Uh, we've, we've run lots, but on mine I've got a, uh, I've got the Race Face Turbine, which, you know, tends to be pretty light and durable and I think it looks nice. Comes in a bunch of colors.
• 10:31
  Mine's just black because I'm not one for a lot of bling [laughs] but, uh, they do come in colors. Cool. How about, uh, your rider controls, bar, stem, seat post? Yep. I've used a mix of stuff.
• 10:43
  Um, on my bike I've got a Loaded Component, uh, seat post and, um, I've got a Chromag wide handlebar. I think they call the Bluebar OSX. Cool, yeah. Um- I love that bar...
• 10:53
  they're nice and wide just like, just like on my mountain bike. I like the wide bars on the fat bike too. I run Shimano brakes. I've got SLX brakes on my bike. They tend to work well down to, you know, low temperatures.
• 11:04
  I've never had really issues that some people speak of with hydraulic brakes in the cold. Yeah, we've, uh, I've heard so many good things about the new Shimano brakes. Yeah. Well, all right.
• 11:15
  They work really, really well. It sounds like, it sounds like you do a lot of experimenting on your bike, that every one of these things you've had multiple setups and you do a lot of checking out of what's available.
• 11:26
  Yeah, I do. Um, you know, we've run, you know, uh, looking forward to suspension forks being available.
• 11:32
  You know, we got one of the 119 fat forks last year and I ran that on my Donk as well, you know, with a lot of good luck.
• 11:40
  I, I really like that setup also for kind of spring/fall time conditions when you're, you know, pounding through rocks here and there, but then also riding over snow.
• 11:48
  So looking forward to building a bike with the new Bluecoat pretty soon, so. Cool.
• 11:53
  Well, Tim, it sounds like, sounds like you and Sven and I do a lot [laughs] of the same thing because we've had an 119 fork roll through here. We're- Got a Snowzoki from, uh, Erickson on my bike right now, one of the-...
• 12:07
  rebuilt and widened up, uh, old bomber forks. Yeah, cool. So we try and, we tr- we try and ride a variety of everything, but we've never been able to ride one of your bikes.
• 12:17
  So maybe someday we can, uh, we can get out there. In fact, Sven's on his way out there. I, I'm on my way out there mid-July sometime. I'm, uh, headed out- Cool...
• 12:27
  yeah, I'm definitely headed out to Saddle Drive as a turnaround point, but I've got friends up and down the Front Range and plan to stop in, uh, several places, like you guys, along the way.
• 12:36
  So I'll, I'll get with you and, uh, make arrangements when I know my schedule a little bit more closely. But, uh, I look forward to stopping out and seeing the shop and checking everything out.
• 12:45
  We'll take him out, take him for a, take him for a ride. [laughs] Get him tanked. Take, take, take his- [laughs]... take his sea level breathing butt up into the mountains and make him suffer.
• 12:54
  [laughs] [laughs] Yeah, definitely hit me up. We'll, uh, you know, we'll, we can incorporate a brewery tour and, you know, go check out some beats at the shop.
• 13:02
  We have a, we now have a retail bike shop in, uh, in one of our Upper Blue Zone restaurants, uh, called Cyclops here in Longmont. So grab some lunch there and, uh, yeah, Mike, if you guys are staying, go for a good ride.
• 13:14
  Cool. Very cool. Well, thanks for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Thanks for sharing your, uh, your bike with the, with our viewing audience. We really appreciate it. They can see us right through the radio.
• 13:25
  Absolutely. [laughs] Killer, man. All right, Tim. Thanks a lot. Thanks, you guys. Have a good one. So what's coming up in the next couple weeks, dude? Anything exciting?
• 13:35
  Sure enough, fat bike events have been popping up on our radar, and we've got them all listed on our events calendar page.
• 13:42
  Plus, our events calendar's set up so event coordinators and promoters can add their event to the calendar right from a form on the site. Just look for the link under the events calendar tab on the site.
• 13:55
  We should tell the race promoters about the delay in actually seeing their event on our calendar. Right on. Yeah, it's pretty simple.
• 14:01
  We just like to check it out before we post it up and make sure that it's a fat bike-friendly event. And, uh, just wait a day or two and we'll get it posted and everybody'll be able to see it. Woo-hoo.
• 14:13
  Links to both the event calendar and where you can register your event will be on our Weekly Dose of Fat show notes. Hey, uh, let's share some events that we're actually gonna attend this summer.
• 14:22
  Well, on June 14th, the Fat Tire Tour of Milwaukee happens, and that's a, uh, tour of the seedy underbelly of Milwaukee's old bars and, uh, beer halls. And even bowling alleys sometimes. Indeed.
• 14:36
  This year- Park shops, railroad side ditches. Cemeteries. Cemeteries. Old beer barons. The Art Trail. It's the 30th anniversary of the, uh, Fat Tire Tour this year.
• 14:47
  And this year the theme is Napoleon Dynamite, so I'm, uh, I'm going as Uncle Rico. Man, I wish I could go. I'm gonna be on my way on vacation that day. Are you gonna... You got a theme- I'll-...
• 14:57
  you got a theme yet, Colin? I'll be there. I don't know what my theme is. I'll probably just be shwasted. [laughs] Shwasted. Ah, it should be a great event.
• 15:08
  So, uh, Sven, give us a, give us a little idea about what your buddy Puck is up to.
• 15:13
  Well, Puck's had it in his mind for quite a while to get a party going up Port Washington way, where we do a lot of beach riding, and came up with, uh, doing it on July 19th in conjunction with the 50th anniversary of Port Fish Days, which is a big all-day event that happens in downtown Port Washington.
• 15:29
  It's a bunch of food, a bunch of music. They got the- Both rock and roll there, right? Rock and/or roll. All night long. Yes.
• 15:36
  Um, he's working on some accommodations up the beach a ways, party, ride up the beach, hang out. He's dubbed the event Sandburger in honor of one of our favorite Decorah events, Dirtburger. Rest in peace.
• 15:47
  Uh, RIP this year. [laughs] You can expect the same level of chicanery, but on a beach instead of under a bridge. There'll be a link to the Facebook event page in the show notes. Fat Sand Trolls. Sand Trolls.
• 16:01
  [laughs] Sand Trolls. Sand Trolls. Well, the Riverwest 24 is happening the last Friday in July. That's July 25th and s- 26th. Our, uh, buddy, Chris Zito, the Zito man, he says he's gonna have a fleet of crampe there.
• 16:17
  Colin, you're, uh, you're racing in that race, right? I'm gonna be racing on the, on a mountain bike tandem with, uh, mi hermano, Jim Huber. Huber. Huber.
• 16:25
  I'll be getting back from Saddle Drive just in time to do some photo and video of that event. That's one of the most awesome events in, in anywhere, really.
• 16:34
  It's a 24-hour race through the open streets of the city of Milwaukee with four checkpoints. Last year, Colin was on the winning team, A Team, and they rode a fat bike, folks.
• 16:44
  They kicked butt on road bikes and single speeds and all that stuff. He's doing it on a tandem this year. Lots of fun.
• 16:51
  Uh, lots of fun bonuses that are, uh, all community-driven and community-supported, and it's a huge party. And Riverwest is, uh, where we are right now, in the Fat Bike Radio studio. Yeah. Radio. That's home base, folks.
• 17:07
  All right. Hey, the 24 should be a great thing.
• 17:10
  Uh, also coming up, uh, this fall is a, an event from our friend Chris at Zion Cyclery called Fat Camp, where we'll be riding and camping out for a couple of the days at Illinois Beach State Park, uh, Saturday, September 13th and 14th.
• 17:27
  Look for a Facebook event page for that as well. Cool. So, uh, Chris already reserved us campsites for this.
• 17:35
  Yeah, he, he went ahead and just said, "You guys are showing up," and he reserved both Gomez and I a campsite, so you know we'll be there. Yeah, and I bet you we could probably host some of our listeners- We're gonna-...
• 17:45
  in our little grotto of fat bike-ness Yeah, I think that's a great idea. We're gonna have sand between our toes when we're flying to Interbike the next day, too, so. Earplugs. Awesome. [laughs] Yeah.
• 17:55
  I like to call my snoring singing the song of my people. [laughs] Like I said- Earplugs. [laughs] Wow, nice. Speaking of camping- [laughs]... Gnomefest 11, the Burning Bike version- Yeah...
• 18:09
  is gonna take place out at Hirsch Farms in Platteville, Wisconsin, and that is Labor Day weekend. Last week we said was the weekend after, but it's Labor Day weekend. Changed.
• 18:20
  Yeah, it means you don't have to miss fat camp this time, so. There you go. And it's, uh, Saturday and Sunday, and maybe even Monday. That's the, uh, September 5th through the 7th, and maybe even the 8th.
• 18:33
  Just to clarify, this is not spat- fat bike specific. This is all mountain bikes. Oh, yeah. Anyone can come. It's a giant family of hooligans. Like-minded people we like to call them.
• 18:44
  Yeah, so be prepared to have the most fun in the woods on a bike you probably have had all year. It's a, it's a judgment-free zone, man. It's, it's the Burning Bike of the Midwest.
• 18:58
  And they've been making trails at Hirsch Farms for at least 25 years. And for those of you that believe in long-range planning... Global Fat Bike Day is Saturday, December 6th, 2014. Get planning on that early.
• 19:10
  It's gonna be huge. Global Fat Bike Day is always the first Saturday in December. And, uh, you know, so you can plan that out for the next, uh, 20 years, for those that are really into long-year planning. Nice.
• 19:22
  If you have an event that you think should be on our event calendar, head over to the site, click on the events tab, and you'll see a link to submit your event to the calendar.
• 19:31
  The sooner you get it on our calendar, the sooner folks will get it on theirs. Hey, let's skip over into the test kitchen. Yes. Yep. But first, a word from us sponsoring ourselves.
• 19:43
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• 19:57
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• 20:11
  And there'll be a link on the show notes. You bet. Linky link. Test Kitchen. Z- Z- Z- Danger Zone. [laughs] Right on, Archer. Hey, thanks for chiming in, buddy.
• 20:27
  So going on in the test kitchen, I've been working on an ongoing Rohloff chain drive versus belt drive test. It's kind of a long-term thing just to see how wear works between the two.
• 20:38
  I've been riding two different but very similar fat bikes for several months now, and these are pretty much beach bikes, which is one of my favorite places to ride.
• 20:46
  One of them uses a chain drive while the other uses a Gates carbon belt drive system with that Rohloff internally geared hub. They both perform really well on the edge of the water.
• 20:55
  Where we typically ride on the beach, that kind of keeps us in the legal zone, and they both frequently get wet and sandy. The belt has been quieter.
• 21:03
  It tightens up a little bit when sand packs in between the teeth, and there's some noticeable sharpening on the center track ridge on the front cog.
• 21:11
  While the chain gets a little noisy with grit, but seems to be fairing well. It, they... It d- doesn't seem to be wearing as much as I expected it to. I'm using a Wipperman stainless chain on there.
• 21:21
  It's been pretty easy to keep clean since there's not a derailleur.
• 21:23
  So the difference between a derailleur-driven system and a belt drive would be a lot greater than a single speed or internally geared hub with a chain on it. Pretty easy to take care of.
• 21:33
  Yeah, I remember when we had a 907 Tuscan and, uh, we were testing that, and I rode it on the beach.
• 21:39
  I mean, it just seemed like all you had to do was take a brush and brush the sand off, back pedal it, and the thing was ready to rock again. Yeah, the belt's been a pretty good thing. I...
• 21:49
  It is just the sand gets in between the belt and the aluminum cog in the front is just wearing it a little bit.
• 21:54
  The stainless one in the back seems to be fairing really well, so we'll just keep beating on them until one or the other of them breaks. [laughs] That may take a couple years, who knows? Right.
• 22:02
  We don't shy away from new technology. [laughs] Uh, we try and, uh, try everything.
• 22:08
  Uh, just keeping with the Rohloff theme for a minute, I thought I'd mention that the guys at Cycle Monkey have another Rohloff-equipped bike report. Uh, this time a couple of the Cycle Monkeys used a Rohloffed up...
• 22:18
  Actually, a pair of Rohloffed up Krampie on a bike packing trip in Mount Diablo in California.
• 22:24
  Those guys are kind of at the forefront of Rohloff technology and, uh, there's will be a link in the show notes to that, that trip. It was pretty cool. I'm continuing to ride, uh, the Surly Ice Cream Truck.
• 22:36
  It's, it's awesome. Uh, me and my buddy Luke, we went out to the river trail and took some photos. Is that at Banzai or somewhere else? I don't- No, it was on the west bank of the river trail. That's it.
• 22:46
  It's a nice little jump, bump jump spot. Those will be worked into a story and it'll be on next week's Wallpaper Wednesday. Colin gets to star on the- Uh... Wallpaper Wednesday again. Not Photoshopped again, folks.
• 22:57
  Not Photoshopped. Not Photoshopped. Just Luke meridied. As far as the bike goes, it's awesome. I had the opportunity to take it on the beach last weekend and it did great. More riding to come. How much- Uh-...
• 23:09
  how much water did you walk through last week on the beach? [laughs] I, I walked... I didn't walk through too much. I definitely got that bike hub deep underwater though, and it was good.
• 23:17
  Uh, when was- Uh, we, me and Heber decided to stop early and just not go swimming.
• 23:22
  [laughs] Well, we, we, uh, we continued on and decided not to go back through it again, and went out on the north end and went to Benji's for breakfast. But, uh- Good call... the wind was really blowing the lake in.
• 23:31
  It was two feet deep, where a lot of times we can just ride past. So, uh, it's, it changes every time we're out there. Yep. That's what's great about a beach ride. Might think it's flat, but every ride is different.
• 23:41
  Last Saturday we took the, uh, Borealis Echo out to the Kettles and put four fast guys on there. Colin was, uh, one of those four guys. There's a, uh- Rock on...
• 23:52
  there's a story that published yesterday that has input from three out of the four riders. We, uh, took first and last place, but I'm gonna let Colin say a few words about how that Borealis Echo treated him.
• 24:04
  Uh, it was, it was really fun. It was a good, light- Fast, uh, stable, very, uh, optimized fat bike, you know? It's, uh, it's definitely the lightest fat bike I've ever ridden.
• 24:17
  It could definitely get lighter with some carbon rims on it. Just a shredder of a bike, man. Like- Did you feel like it was more of a trail geometry type bike versus a snow bike? Did you get any sense of that?
• 24:29
  Yeah, a little. I thought they definitely... They didn't go too far, like, outside the lines of mountain bike design. They didn't, they didn't slack it out too much. It's very...
• 24:39
  It's, you know, very much a happy medium between, you know, say an Ice Cream Truck, where it's real slack and long, to more traditional mountain bike setup. Cogsley design.
• 24:51
  But- Yeah, tho- you know, those differences are pretty subtle. It's, it's interesting how a half a degree here or there can make a lot of difference. Yeah. But it performed well. Uh, I had a ton of fun.
• 25:00
  Loved, uh, first time ever rocking out a fat bike with a suspension fork and a dropper post. Sploosh.
• 25:07
  [laughs] I took that bike out to our local trail, Campy, at, in Lake Geneva, and they have just a ripping downhill down to the chalet from a wood bridge and oh my God, that bike just- Hauls [laughs]...
• 25:21
  rips on the downhill. I was able to do a couple of repeat downhills on it, where each time I took it further and further into the chicane at the end of this downhill, and it just- Head sideways...
• 25:34
  it, the back end is, is placeable, nimble- When I was- Really felt awesome. They're, they're splooshing here, folks. Sploosh. Splooshin'.
• 25:43
  When I was- I got a chance to ride it around the parking lot, so maybe I'll get [laughs] a little more time on it when they give it to me. Oh, yeah, like last week, "Oh, you don't seem to have anything to add this week."
• 25:50
  That's because you don't, you guys don't share.
• 25:52
  [laughs] And the other thing I have to say about that bike is with the dropper post, it really allows you to shift up and pedal into the downhill and just rip it as hard as you fricking can. It's- Yeah.
• 26:06
  This bike descends like no other fat bike that I've ever ridden. Man, can you guys believe we wasted another 30 minutes of our listeners' time? Let's wrap this up. [laughs] Thanks to our show sponsor, Surly Bikes.
• 26:19
  Surly spelled backwards is yrlus. So go to surlybikes.com and check out that new Ice Cream Truck. And if you'd like to be a guest on Fat Bike Radio, let us know. We'll try to make it happen.
• 26:31
  Email gomez@fatbike.com and let us know what you got. In the next two weeks we have Paul Ellis from Hed and Eric Mother Truckin' Sobran from the Surly Intergalactic World Headquarters as special guests.
• 26:48
  So tune in every Saturday morning. It's like Saturday morning cartoons. With fat bikes. Talk to you [laughs] next week, peeps. You got it. Las bicis gordas para siempre. Adios, amigos.
• 27:00
  [rock music] You've been listening to Fat Bike Radio's weekly dose of fat. Find us on the web at fat-bike.com/radio. We'll see you next time.
• 27:17
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