Latest / Investor Exchange / How Helens International Turned A Massive Loss Into A Huge Win In FY2025
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08So imagine for a second that you're running this massive multinational chain of bars. Right.
- 0:13And suddenly your foot traffic just starts to plummet. Over the course of a
- 0:17single year, a massive quarter of your total revenue just, you know,
- 0:21vanishes into thin air. Just gone. Exactly.
- 0:24Yeah. And by all conventional business logic, you should be panicking.
- 0:29You should be completely in the red. Oh, absolutely.
- 0:32And yet when you close the books at the end of the year, you realize that the
- 0:36pile of cash you're taking home has actually grown.
- 0:39You have vastly more money in your pocket than you did when your bars were packed.
- 0:43I mean, it completely breaks the fundamental physics of the market.
- 0:46Normally, you need money coming in the front door to have anything left over at the back door.
- 0:50So when a company experiences this massive top-line contraction,
- 0:54but a bottom-line explosion,
- 0:56It forces you to completely reevaluate everything you think you know about their
- 1:01operational machinery.
- 1:03Well, welcome to this deep dive, because today we are looking directly into
- 1:06the gears of that exact machinery.
- 1:09We're decoding the financial turnaround of Helens International Holdings Company Limited.
- 1:14Yeah. And for those of you tuning in, Helens is a major player in the hospitality space.
- 1:20They operate hundreds of locations. 578 to be exact. Right.
- 1:24578 locations spread across mainland China, Vietnam, Japan and Singapore.
- 1:29So they are essentially a hospitality giant navigating a very tricky post-pandemic landscape.
- 1:36And they're doing it in a way that's leaving a lot of traditional analysts just
- 1:39scratching their heads. Definitely.
- 1:41And the sources we've gathered for you to figure this out are two official company documents.
- 1:45We're looking at their positive profit alert from March 13, 2026,
- 1:49alongside their full announcement of annual results so the year ended December 31, 2025.
- 1:54Both very revealing documents. For sure.
- 1:57And our mission today is to analyze these documents strictly from an investor's perspective.
- 2:02We're going to decode this bizarre financial performance, understand the strategic
- 2:07shifts driving these numbers, and evaluate their future outlook,
- 2:10including the risks on opportunities.
- 2:12Let's do it. OK, let's unpack this because we have to start by addressing this
- 2:16massive, glaring contradiction in their results. The revenue drop. Yes.
- 2:20In 2025, Helen's revenue plummeted by 28.3%. They dropped from 752.2 million RMB.
- 2:28And just a quick note for the listener, RMB stands for renminbi,
- 2:31which is the official currency of China. Right.
- 2:34Thank you. So they dropped from 752.2 million RMB down to 539 million RMB.
- 2:40That is over a quarter of their top line sales, just completely gone. It's staggering.
- 2:45It is. I mean, in a high overhead business like hospitality,
- 2:47In reality, a 28% drop in revenue is usually a death sentence.
- 2:51Yet their net profit swung from a 78 million RMB loss in 2024 to a nearly 34
- 2:56million RMB profit in 2025.
- 2:59I need you to explain the mechanics behind this, Matt. Yeah,
- 3:02it's wild. It sounds like a restaurant serving half as many customers,
- 3:05but somehow making more money.
- 3:06Like, how do you lose that much top line revenue, but suddenly become profitable?
- 3:11Well, the answer is sitting right there on the balance sheet.
- 3:14But you have to look at the expenses, not the income.
- 3:17The key to this entire turnaround is a drastic intentional reduction in what
- 3:24accountants call asset impairment and one-off bar closure losses.
- 3:29Let's translate that for the listener. What does asset impairment actually look
- 3:33like on the ground in a physical bar?
- 3:35Think of it like ripping off a massive financial band-aid. When a company realizes
- 3:40a specific bar location is structurally
- 3:42unprofitable, keeping it open just drains cash month after month.
- 3:47You have to close it. Right. You got to cut your losses. Exactly.
- 3:50But closing a commercial space is incredibly expensive.
- 3:53You have to pay severe penalties to commercial landlords to break your lease.
- 3:57Plus, you have all this custom-built infrastructure, right?
- 4:00The neon lighting, the specialized kitchen equipment, the bespoke seating.
- 4:04All the stuff that makes it at Helen's.
- 4:05Right. And you end up selling it to a liquidator for pennies on the dollar.
- 4:09So in accounting terms, the value of those physical assets is, quote, impaired.
- 4:14So it's basically the upfront cost of stopping a long-term bleed.
- 4:17Precisely. In 2024, Helen's took a staggering 85.8 million RMB hit on these
- 4:24impairments and closures. Wow.
- 4:26$85 million. Yeah. They were aggressively shutting down their worst performing
- 4:30locations, absorbing all those lease penalties and equipment losses all at once.
- 4:35So it's taking the hit. Exactly.
- 4:36But in 2025, that impairment number dropped to just $4.9 million RMB.
- 4:42Ah, because they already took the medicine. Yes.
- 4:45The heavy lifting of closing the toxic locations was finished the year before,
- 4:49so that massive expense category just vanished from the 2025 ledger.
- 4:53And to really see how this impacts the underlying health of the business,
- 4:57the company provides a metric they call adjusted net profit.
- 5:00Now, this is a non-HKFRS measure, right? Right. And just to clarify,
- 5:04HKFRS stands for Hong Kong Financial Reporting Standards.
- 5:08Which is basically just the official rigorous accounting rulebook they're required to use.
- 5:12Exactly. But companies often provide an adjusted number to help investors see
- 5:17the core operational performance by stripping out noise.
- 5:20By noise, you mean those one-time painful events that aren't going to happen
- 5:24every single year, like a massive wave of store closures.
- 5:28Exactly. Or non-operational factors like foreign exchange fluctuation.
- 5:31Oh, because they operate internationally.
- 5:33Right. The value of currencies like the U.S. dollar or Hong Kong dollar shifts
- 5:37constantly, which distorts the final profit number. Makes sense.
- 5:41So when you add back those one-off closure losses and strip out the currency
- 5:45noise, their adjusted net profit actually grew. It went from 65.4 million RMB
- 5:50in 2024 to 67.7 million RMB in 2025.
- 5:56What's fascinating here is how clearly this illustrates a management team prioritizing
- 6:00sheer profitability over vanity metrics.
- 6:03Vanity metrics like total store count. Right.
- 6:06In the past, hospitality brands were obsessed with store counts.
- 6:09Whoever had the most locations was winning. But Helens realized that having
- 6:13a massive footprint is meaningless if those locations are dragging down your
- 6:16margins. Yeah, I see the logic there, but it still begs a major question for me.
- 6:22Prooding the dead branches explains the profit chump.
- 6:25But a 28% drop in overall revenue is still a huge contraction.
- 6:29It implies they are intentionally shrinking their overall footprint. Why would they do that?
- 6:35Because Hellens is fundamentally changing its corporate DNA.
- 6:39They're executing a massive structural pivot away from a traditional capital-intensive
- 6:44hospitality operation.
- 6:45And they're moving toward what investors call an asset-light model. Ah, right.
- 6:51The documents refer to this as the high-beer partnership. Yes,
- 6:54the high-beer partnership.
- 6:55Essentially, they're shifting away from owning and operating the bars themselves,
- 6:59what they call self-operated bars, and they're transitioning heavily into a franchise model.
- 7:03And the data shows this pivot is accelerating rapidly.
- 7:06Revenue generated specifically from their franchise business increased to 34
- 7:10percent of their total revenue in 2025.
- 7:13Up from what? The year prior, it was only 25.9 percent.
- 7:17So they are actively handing the keys over to partners. This completely changes
- 7:21what the company actually does on a day-to-day basis. Like they are transitioning
- 7:24from being the operator sweating over the grill to being the landlord and the
- 7:29supplier. That is the perfect analogy.
- 7:31When you are the operator, you carry all the operational risks. Right.
- 7:34If the air conditioning breaks, corporate pays for it. If local minimum wage
- 7:38goes up, corporate absorbs the hit. But with a franchise.
- 7:41Exactly. When you pivot to a franchise model, the franchise takes on the lease,
- 7:46the payroll and the daily headaches. You, as the franchisor,
- 7:50collect your licensing fees and, crucially, you sell them the supplies they
- 7:54need to run the business.
- 7:56We can clearly see the impact of offloading that risk in the cost-cutting sections of the report.
- 8:02The reductions are just staggering. They really are. Employee benefits and manpower
- 8:06costs dropped nearly 35% in a single year,
- 8:10bringing their total payroll down to 113.1 million RMB. I mean,
- 8:16think about the magnitude of that.
- 8:17They wiped 35% of their payroll off the books, not necessarily by firing everyone,
- 8:22but by shifting those bartenders and managers off corporate payroll and onto
- 8:26the franchisees' payroll. That is so smart.
- 8:29They also saw the depreciation of right-of-use assets drop over 40%.
- 8:34And right-of-use assets, that's the accounting term for the gradual write-down
- 8:37of their long-term property leasing. Right, right.
- 8:39That fell from $60.8 million to $36.1 million RMB.
- 8:43They even cut their utility expenses by almost 39%. Yeah.
- 8:47By moving to this asset light model, they've drastically lowered the absolute
- 8:52floor of what it costs to keep the corporate lights on. they are running an
- 8:57incredibly lean ship at the corporate level.
- 8:59Well, here is where I have to step in and push back a little. Okay, let's hear it.
- 9:02Because as an investor looking at the long-term viability of this company,
- 9:07I am looking at top-line consumer demand.
- 9:10And there is a massive elephant in the room regarding demand.
- 9:13The same store sales. Yes.
- 9:15The same store sales for mainland China, which measures the performance of bars
- 9:18that have been open for at least a year.
- 9:20That dropped 18.4 percent in 2025.
- 9:23Yeah, that's a speed drop. The report attributes this to a, quote,
- 9:27complex and volatile domestic economic market.
- 9:29Which is a very polite corporate way of saying the economy is struggling and
- 9:34consumers are tightening their belts.
- 9:36And it's a very real threat. If consumer discretionary spending rise up,
- 9:41the hospitality sector is always the first to feel the pain.
- 9:45People don't stop buying groceries, but they do stop buying cocktails on a Tuesday
- 9:50night. Right. But follow the logic here.
- 9:52If foot traffic at existing locations is down nearly 20 percent,
- 9:57the franchisees taking on all that rent and payroll are going to get crushed.
- 10:01They are absorbing the operational risk right as the market softens.
- 10:06How does a franchisor survive if the local operators are bleeding?
- 10:10You can only cut corporate costs so far. Here's where it gets really interesting. Okay.
- 10:14The answer lies in how Hellens actually extracts value from its franchisees.
- 10:18It isn't just about collecting a flat monthly fee.
- 10:21What is it then? It is entirely about the supply chain and the specific products
- 10:25those franchisees are required to sell. Ah, the product mix. Exactly.
- 10:29Hellens doesn't operate like a traditional bar that acts as a middleman for
- 10:33third-party alcohol. Like buying kegs of Budweiser or Heineken and just marking them up. Right.
- 10:38The core of their business is selling their own proprietary,
- 10:41Helen's Branded drinks.
- 10:43And the data shows their customers are incredibly loyal to those specific products.
- 10:49Helen's Branded products accounted for 72.4% of their self-operated revenue in 2025.
- 10:55And that percentage actually increased from the year before. Right.
- 10:59That's wild. People aren't going to a Helen's to drink a generic beer.
- 11:03They're going specifically to consume Helen's branded inventory.
- 11:07And for anyone evaluating this business, the next metric I'm about to share
- 11:10is the single most important number in the entire annual report. Let's hear it.
- 11:14The gross profit margin on these Helen's branded drinks increased to 79.8%. Wow.
- 11:20Almost an 80% gross margin. We need to contextualize that because in the food
- 11:25and beverage industry, an 80 percent margin on your core high volume product
- 11:29is almost unheard of. It is astronomical.
- 11:32Let's compare it directly to their own data. When Helen's sells third party
- 11:36alcohol brands, their gross margin is 60.9 percent.
- 11:40Which is still a standard healthy bar margin. It is.
- 11:43But when a customer buys a Helen's branded drink, the margin jumps to nearly 80 percent.
- 11:49So tie this back to the franchise model. When a franchise opens a high-beer
- 11:53partnership location, they are contractually obligated to buy their syrups,
- 11:57their branded beers, and their proprietary liquors directly from Helens Corporate. Yes.
- 12:02Helens controls the entire upstream supply chain.
- 12:06Every single time a franchise orders inventory to stock their bar,
- 12:10Helen's Corporate captures that 80% margin.
- 12:13They make their money before a single customer even walks through the franchisee's
- 12:17front door. That completely answers my earlier pushback.
- 12:21Even if same store sales drop 18.4% because of a volatile economy,
- 12:26the sheer profitability of the drinks that are being sold creates a massive structural buffer.
- 12:32It insulates the corporate bottom line from the daily fluctuations in foot traffic.
- 12:35It is a masterclass in defensive positioning.
- 12:37When you control your own popular product and secure an 80% margin,
- 12:41you can afford a drop in sheer volume.
- 12:43Yeah, you have so much wiggle room. Right. The franchise model limits their
- 12:47exposure to fixed costs like rent, while the proprietary product mix maximizes
- 12:53the profit on every single transaction.
- 12:55It's the engine driving the entire turnaround. So what does this all mean for the future?
- 13:00We've analyzed the shift away from self-operated locations, the cost-cutting,
- 13:04and this incredible 80% margin mode. Let's look forward. Okay.
- 13:08Based on these documents, what are the expectations for 2026 and beyond?
- 13:13Well, management is explicitly clear about where they are deploying their resources.
- 13:18The primary growth engine is the continued aggressive expansion of the Hybeer
- 13:23Partnership Network. Double down on the franchise model. Yep.
- 13:25They've proven the asset-lay model works, it's stabilized their cash flow,
- 13:29and now the goal is to scale it by bringing on more franchisees.
- 13:32They also mentioned exploring entirely new formats to adapt to changing consumer habits.
- 13:37There's a specific reference to developing the third space model.
- 13:41The third space is a fascinating concept in urban sociology and hospitality.
- 13:45Your first space is your home. Your second space is your workplace.
- 13:49A third space is an environment dedicated to community, socializing, and relaxation.
- 13:55Think of, like, a classic coffeehouse. But how does a late-night bar chain fit into that?
- 14:00By solving the biggest inefficiency in the bar business.
- 14:04Dead time. Oh. A traditional bar sits completely empty and unprofitable for 14 to 16 hours a day.
- 14:11By evolving their locations into a third space, Hellens is attempting to create
- 14:15environments where consumers want to spend time during the day.
- 14:18Oh, I see. Like co-working in the afternoon.
- 14:20Or casual socializing before dinner. Yeah.
- 14:23It's a strategic attempt to maximize the revenue generated per square foot of
- 14:27real estate across a full 24-hour cycle.
- 14:30Expanding the utility of the physical space makes total sense.
- 14:34The report doesn't pretend this is a guaranteed success, does it?
- 14:37No, not at all. They dedicate a significant portion of the document to outlining severe risks.
- 14:42Any investor looking at this needs to understand the threats they're actively warning about.
- 14:47Absolutely. The first major risk is the fundamental nature of the beverage industry,
- 14:51which is shifting consumer tastes.
- 14:54Consumer loyalty is notoriously fickle. Right. If an entirely new beverage trend
- 14:59sweeps through the younger demographic and suddenly nobody wants Helen's proprietary
- 15:04drinks, that 80% margin fortress crumbles.
- 15:07They are highly leveraged on the continued popularity of their own brand.
- 15:12And paradoxically, the success of that proprietary brand creates a completely
- 15:16different, highly specific risk.
- 15:18Counterfeiting. Yes. That makes total sense. If you are selling a proprietary
- 15:22drink with an 80% margin, you are basically painting a huge target on your back for bootleggers.
- 15:28Precisely. The report explicitly warns about the threat of counterfeit brands
- 15:32and unauthorized imitations.
- 15:34If bad actors flood the market with fake Helen's products, it doesn't just steal revenue.
- 15:39It actively destroys the brand equity they've spent years building. Exactly.
- 15:43Furthermore, because they control the supply chain for food and beverages,
- 15:47they highlight the ever-present risk of foodborne illnesses.
- 15:50Oof. A single contamination event, even if it originates from a third-party
- 15:54supplier upstream, could result in a catastrophic loss of consumer trust.
- 15:59And reading this report in 2026, it is impossible to ignore their stark warning
- 16:03about the risk of recurring epidemics.
- 16:06They specifically reference the historical devastation of COVID-19.
- 16:09Yeah, it's a sobering reminder. No matter how asset-light your corporate structure
- 16:13is, if public health mandates force physical locations to close,
- 16:17the revenue goes to zero.
- 16:19It's the existential threat inherent to any business that requires human beings
- 16:23to gather in a physical room. Absolutely.
- 16:26Well, let's pivot to something that will make income-focused investors sit up and take notice.
- 16:30We need to dissect the shareholder returns, specifically the dividends.
- 16:35This is a great part of the report. Because despite the volatile economy and
- 16:39despite a 28% drop in top line revenue, Helen's opened up the corporate checkbook
- 16:44in a shocking way. The numbers here are eye-opening.
- 16:47The documents confirm they paid out 277.6 million RMB in dividends to their
- 16:53shareholders during 2025.
- 16:54Hold on, let me process that. It's a big number. We established right at the
- 16:58beginning of this deep dive that their total reported net profit for the entire
- 17:02year was roughly 34 million RMB. Correct. Thank you.
- 17:07How is it mathematically possible or even responsible to pay out $277.6 million
- 17:14in dividends when you only generated $34 million in profit?
- 17:18Like, are they taking out debt to pay shareholders? That seems like a massive red flag.
- 17:22I know. It looks like a red flag until you separate accounting profit from actual
- 17:27cash flow. This is a crucial concept for investors to understand.
- 17:31Okay, explain it. Remember earlier when we discussed depreciation,
- 17:34the gradual write-down of their property leases and equipment?
- 17:38Right, the 40% drop in lease depreciation. Exactly. Depreciation is a non-cash expense.
- 17:42It lowers the company's net profit on paper for tax and accounting purposes,
- 17:46but the company didn't actually write a physical check for those losses this year.
- 17:49They aren't losing that money from their bank account today.
- 17:52So the actual physical cash generated by the business and sitting in their vault
- 17:57is vastly higher than the 34 million RMB net profit reported on the income statement.
- 18:02Ah, so the cash flow is completely detached from the accounting profit. Exactly.
- 18:06And on top of what they've already distributed, the board is proposing a final
- 18:10year end dividend of 0.0554 RMB per share.
- 18:16If we connect this to the bigger picture, paying out a dividend of this magnitude
- 18:20is the ultimate signal of management confidence.
- 18:23You do not hand out hundreds of millions of RMB in physical cash to your shareholders
- 18:29if you are worried about making payroll next month.
- 18:32It's a massive signaling mechanism. It is.
- 18:34They are essentially telling the market, we have successfully survived the restructuring.
- 18:38We don't need to hoard this cash to build new bars because our franchisees are
- 18:42funding the physical expansion now. Our cash flow is strong,
- 18:45and we are returning the excess capital to you.
- 18:47And their balance sheet validates that confidence perfectly.
- 18:50The report shows they are currently sitting on 588.9 million RMB in cash and
- 18:56bank balances. Which is huge.
- 18:58Furthermore, they are carrying very little debt.
- 19:00Their gearing ratio, which measures a company's total debt against its shareholder
- 19:04equity, is sitting at a microscopic 4.6%. They only hold about 40 million RMB in bank borrowings.
- 19:11That is an incredibly defensive posture. They are operating with massive liquidity
- 19:15and almost no leverage. Right.
- 19:17It gives them the agility to weather prolonged economic downturns or to aggressively
- 19:23support their franchisees if the market tightens further.
- 19:27It proves that the asset light strategy wasn't just a buzzword.
- 19:30It really resulted in a fortress balance sheet. It really did.
- 19:33So to bring this all together, the journey we've tracked through these documents is remarkable.
- 19:38We started with what looked like a disaster, a terrifying 28% drop in revenue.
- 19:44But by looking under the hood, we found that the drop was intentional.
- 19:47It masked a highly successful corporate pivot.
- 19:50Helens aggressively stripped away the heavy, expensive burden of operating their own physical bars.
- 19:55They transitioned to a lean, capital-efficient franchise model.
- 19:59Right. And that entire ecosystem is kept highly profitable by their proprietary
- 20:03supply chain, driven by branded products that boast near 80% gross margins.
- 20:08It serves as a perfect case study for why top-line revenue metrics never tell the full story.
- 20:13As an investor, you have to dig into the cost structure, the margin profile,
- 20:18and the strategic evolution of the underlying business model.
- 20:21Which leaves you, the listener, with a final provocative thought to ponder as
- 20:27you evaluate companies undergoing massive transitions.
- 20:31Okay. If Helen's continues aggressively down this path, if they continue to
- 20:35shed physical bar ownership and move closer and closer to simply being a franchisor
- 20:40that supplies independent operators with highly profitable branded syrups and beers. Yeah.
- 20:45How should the market actually value them? I mean, it completely redefines the
- 20:48nature of their business. Exactly.
- 20:50Should investors continue to price them as a vulnerable hospitality stock,
- 20:54constantly at the mercy of local foot traffic, changing neighborhood demographics
- 20:58and commercial rent hikes?
- 20:59Or, based on these incredible margins and their new asset-light structure,
- 21:04should they be valued at a premium as a highly resilient branding,
- 21:07licensing, and supply chain logistics company?
- 21:10That front door we talked about at the beginning isn't just boarded up.
- 21:13It might belong to a completely different industry now.
- 21:16This content is intended to serve strictly and only as an informational,
- 21:20independent, objective summary of recent events and should in no way be interpreted,
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