Latest / NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO) / Joba and the Mouth 12-11-25

Transcript

Joba and the Mouth 12-11-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

0:00
If it is the worldwide sports radio network.
0:05
The New York Mets lost both star closer Edwin Diaz and star first
0:10
baseman Pete Alonzo the free agency during this week's winter
0:13
meetings and what fans in New York media are calling an
0:16
absolute disaster. Apparently, Uncle Stevie's money
0:19
is no longer good enough if David Stearns is even offering
0:22
it. What will Stearns and the Masons
0:24
do to stop the bleeding, and will it be enough?
0:27
A bizarre developing story out of Michigan as Wolverines head
0:31
coach Sharon Moore has been fired and arrested by police for
0:34
apparently having an appropriate relationship that's turned ugly
0:37
with a staffer that's so bad that details are only just
0:40
coming out. Now the sanctioned and embattled
0:43
program takes another big hit, only two seasons removed from a
0:46
national championship win. Can they survive yet another
0:49
scandal, one that likely we only know the tip of the iceberg
0:52
about? And before we crack a six pack
0:55
with Speedy and make some Week 15 NFL picks, we will dive deep
0:59
on the quarterback catastrophe in Indy and the return of 44
1:03
year old Philip Rivers to the Colts as their once promising
1:07
playoff hopes are now on life support.
1:10
Here on yet another all gas, no brakes, Wheeling and dealing,
1:15
styling and profiling live Thursday night edition of Jabba.
1:20
And the man a significant you're.
1:24
Going to have a ton of money to spend, why not put it in one of
1:28
the top three offensive? Players in the.
1:38
League, we're going to be looking at Aaron.
1:39
Judge. And saying that he can't.
1:40
Win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
1:43
I. Played 82 games you don't see
1:45
the fun doing. That a game where you got to go.
1:48
Before. I told you, giant feet, Saquon
1:51
Barkley at this. Point.
1:53
Say whatever you want, he's the best
2:08
quarterback in the NFL, really. Let's do it.
2:51
You're listening to Jabba and the Mouth. 631-672-3108 is the
3:02
number to call. You're listening to a new show
3:06
of Jabba and the mouth. You know who I am.
3:11
My name is Errol Marx, my Co host Jabba Chamberlain and
3:16
Speedy PD Go to our website at www.worldwidesportsradio.com.
3:22
Check out all our shows throughout the week including
3:24
Jabba and the Mouth every single Mondays and Wednesdays at 7:30
3:29
PM. All you have to do to tune in
3:32
and check out our local listings for all our shows is go to our
3:35
website at www.worldwidesportsradio.com.
3:43
It has been a crazy, crazy week and it's been on and off.
3:47
We had a little bit of rain. We're supposed to get a lot of
3:49
snow this weekend on Sunday and Monday into Monday we could be
3:54
hit with five to seven inches of snow.
3:58
I've been hearing how. How is it over there in the one
4:01
and only Nebraska? We're we're actually we're, it
4:05
was like 50°, but we're going to get like, I think the high that
4:09
we're going to have on the weekend, I think is 16 on
4:13
Saturday and like 22 on Sunday. But we, we have no snow, which
4:19
I'm I'm, I will take and I don't like, I don't mind the snow.
4:26
It's the ice that gets me. Like when we get that like black
4:29
ice and stuff like that, Gosh that, I mean, it just, it
4:32
stinks. And especially like, so we're in
4:34
like a new development like in in our neighborhood and they're
4:38
the last like we're the last ones to like get anything.
4:42
So it's like all the construction, like everybody's
4:45
like coming to work and doing all their stuff, right.
4:48
So they just like basically matted down.
4:50
And then when the actual like people come through with the
4:53
plows and everything, basically they're just pushing it down and
4:57
it's just it, it's, it's bad, it's rough.
5:00
Like it's literally an ice skating rink.
5:02
I was, I met, I was going to check the mail and I don't know
5:06
how y'all do it in Long Island, but like we have to walk to the
5:09
mailbox. They don't have them.
5:11
Just out front. And I saw my FedEx guy and he
5:16
literally slid half a block and stopped like right in front of
5:21
my driveway and he goes watch this.
5:23
He put it in gear and just slid to the next house.
5:26
So, so you guys have mailboxes at like really deep at the end
5:31
of your driveway, is that where it?
5:32
Is or like in in no, in like the in the development like there's
5:37
the big box. See, we don't have long
5:41
driveways because land is so expensive here in Long Island.
5:45
It depends on the area. It could be a cul-de-sac.
5:48
I actually live on a cul-de-sac. So everybody, yeah, very rich.
5:53
So they're the houses are ridiculous over here where I'm
5:58
from. And it's weird because you do
6:01
have to go to the end of your driveway, but it.
6:05
Sucks. And then two, it's like, yeah,
6:07
sometimes 2 and like you're walking to it.
6:09
It's like you got to like do this to make sure you don't bust
6:13
your ass. Get the middle.
6:15
It does get bad and we haven't had snow.
6:19
I think we've had one snowstorm every year and it, it doesn't
6:23
really get that bad. I think last year we had a 10
6:25
inch storm and it pretty much got washed away the next day.
6:28
So we've haven't, we haven't had back-to-back storms in a while.
6:32
And this might be the coldest fall we've ever had.
6:36
I don't remember a, a fall that we hit in the teens over the
6:39
last three or four years. It's, it's crazy.
6:42
It last year at this time it was at some point it was 6570° and
6:47
now it's like. But that's the that's the same
6:50
thing here. Like we're so bipolar too.
6:52
Where it's like. It's going to be 16 and 22° and
6:57
then it's going to be 55 on Monday and Tuesday.
7:00
That's crazy. I don't think it's I, we've been
7:04
really, I think the hottest, the, the hottest it's ever been
7:09
was about 4548 I, it's to me and, and I don't think that's
7:13
cold at all, actually. No, I love them.
7:16
I mean, Carter, catch you outside.
7:17
I don't know if you guys saw it on this Twitter or whatever, but
7:19
Carter and I, we went outside when it was it was literally
7:22
like 40°. Yeah, I like that weather.
7:24
I it's cool. You could take once you sweat,
7:26
you take off your shirt, you're not going to catch a pneumonia
7:28
or a cold. But once it gets into the the
7:32
the low 30s into the 20s, if you're wearing, if you're not
7:36
wearing a. Sweatshirt or something.
7:37
It's different like, but even, even even cartoons like so cart
7:41
comes in and he had, he had worked out in the morning and
7:45
then came home and we played catch, did all of our other
7:47
stuff. And then all of a sudden he
7:50
comes in and he like comes upstairs out of his room and
7:52
he's like, dad, I lost an earring and I'm like, like, did
7:59
you check your room? Did you check anything?
8:01
And probably went down the drain.
8:05
So then of course, what does dad do?
8:07
Dad goes to the store and gets him freaking new pair of
8:10
earrings and I'm like, I'm not getting you nice ones.
8:13
Yeah, because this is exactly what happens.
8:16
I you're going to lose. You're going to lose them or
8:19
like something's going to fall out.
8:20
And I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.
8:21
And like, you know, in the holidays, like, yeah, you're a
8:26
present giver. Then you like, I can't wait.
8:29
I suck at it. I suck.
8:32
So you just. So you just give the presents
8:34
before the holidays even come? I suck Errol.
8:37
I am not good at it. I am not good.
8:41
I'm in fish. I love you top of the closet.
8:45
No, because I'm still going to see it.
8:47
And then I'm, I know when I go in the closet like I'm, I'm
8:50
going like I, I, it makes me so happy and I know it's going to
8:56
make you guys happy. Like and I want, and I don't
8:59
need a holiday to give a gift, right?
9:02
No, but it just, it makes me so happy and it's like, I can't, I
9:07
can't wait. And it's literally I get yelled
9:10
at all the time. Like you just need to wait.
9:13
You need to wait, you need to do this.
9:14
And like, but I have to tell somebody when I'm super excited
9:18
about getting somebody a gift, right?
9:20
Like and I have all of you guys as gifts and I'm like, I'm just
9:24
waiting and I'm like, like, I just want to send them.
9:30
Really. You got a gift for me now.
9:33
Now you got me. Now me.
9:34
Now you got me. Wondering what you got me?
9:36
I it's probably it's probably a picture of your middle finger
9:40
and you signed it. Go F yourself.
9:41
That's that's. Probably something to show you
9:43
how Itati related. I could see that I I could
9:52
definitely or a bobble head with you know, he got specially made
9:56
for me with his middle finger up at me signed by Java.
10:03
But it's funny you mentioning here.
10:05
I lost my earring the other day and I had expensive diamond
10:08
earrings and I ripped apart my bed.
10:11
I had Brittany wake up and I'm like, get up.
10:13
It might be under you. I can't find it.
10:15
It's it's and it's a it's a big diamond and I finally.
10:19
Found the same thing and he wanted those and like and I get
10:22
him like his. His graduation gift was
10:25
literally Jacob the jeweler did one.
10:29
Like so he has a diamond pendant and everything like a dog tag
10:33
and it's all wrapped in diamonds.
10:35
I think I have that too. I think I I had something made
10:37
years ago on that, but I don't even know where I what I did
10:39
with it. But and but I'm like card no,
10:43
like I'm not like you're now like in a different realm, like
10:47
I'm not going to buy you expensive earrings because
10:49
exactly just what happened. I agree with you.
10:53
Earrings. Jewelry.
10:55
Are you a sunglasses person? Oh, are you kidding me?
10:59
So anybody that knows me, I'm a collector, so I actually.
11:03
Have you know that you know that?
11:05
I have two pairs. I, I, by the way, I bought the
11:07
Ray Ban Meta glasses. I have two pairs of those.
11:10
So I and everybody. Hold on, which ones?
11:14
And and I think Carter's watching a show or not.
11:17
I'm not sure. Yeah, but I'm getting him
11:20
something like that. Did you get the the transition
11:22
lens ones those? Are the new ones.
11:25
Those are the twos. I'm not ready to get the twos
11:27
because usually when they come out there's always a flaw in
11:30
them, so I wanted to wait until next.
11:32
Year we'll get you get the Gen. ones or the Gen. twos.
11:36
I have the I have two of the Gen. ones, so and I like I like
11:41
them by the way, the meta meta glasses and the only difference
11:44
between the the meta 2 and the meta ones is the new ones.
11:49
It's 8 hours. You can actually use it for 8
11:52
hours before the battery dies. The new the old ones, it's 4
11:54
hours. But really every single thing
11:57
that the metal ones have, the meta twos have it.
12:00
There's very little additional things.
12:02
Now there is the display glasses that came out, which are extra
12:05
expensive and I and people, you have to go to the store and pick
12:10
them up. You can't order them online.
12:12
They do not sell them online unless you.
12:14
Go. You actually have to go in and
12:16
like do all this stuff to like see them, right?
12:19
Yep, Yep. And I I'm not.
12:21
Doing we're not we're not as big as you guys here obviously in
12:24
Nebraska, like we have like one place that will do that and like
12:29
it's I think they're when I thought about it because I
12:33
obviously I wanted to get them, but it's like, oh, it's probably
12:37
like 6 months away and I'm like, I don't, I like getting stuff
12:43
immediately so. Do I?
12:46
Well, and that's, that's the crappy part about now.
12:48
It's like everybody's ordering everything off Amazon and I
12:51
can't get it. Like usually it's next day and
12:53
like I can't get it for like 3 or 4 days and it makes me mad.
12:56
It takes forever and and with the holidays and and again, the
13:00
meta meta ones, meta twos, if you have them, they're awesome.
13:04
Anybody that's ever tried them, you pretty much tell it what to
13:07
do and it'll it'll find it'll it tells you the weather tells you,
13:10
it'll tell you the directions. So tell me how to get here and
13:12
it'll tell you word for word how to make a right, make a left.
13:15
It's it's fantastic. Is that where you were trying to
13:17
show your friend Ray? Yes, before your party.
13:19
Yes, yes, I was. I was teaching Ray how to use
13:23
the metal ones, so I have. 2 metal ones before we get in the
13:27
show. Was there was there one thing
13:29
like I always remember like a white Christmas?
13:33
I remember the one the one time and it correlated with being a
13:37
white Christmas for me. Yes, and it was I got a Sega was
13:41
was there one like Christmas that you remember when you got
13:44
something that you didn't expect or like anything and everybody
13:48
can jump in on this. So it's funny, it's funny.
13:51
I celebrated Hanukkah and Christmas.
13:53
So on my father's family, I celebrated Hanukkah and Hanukkah
13:57
was like 8 days and eight nights.
13:59
You get 8 presents on different days and Christmas, What my
14:02
mom's family, you celebrate it one day, your Christmas Eve and
14:06
Christmas, you know, Christmas morning.
14:08
So I got a chance to celebrate both holidays.
14:12
So I had like extra gifts and all this other stuff with the
14:16
family. But I there is not one present
14:19
that I actually there is one I always loved.
14:21
Family matters. So the Urkel doll came out.
14:25
Remember the Urkel got any cheese?
14:27
Remember that? So that thing came out and I
14:29
really wanted the Urkel doll. So my parents got me the Urkel
14:32
and that that year those dolls went like hot cakes.
14:37
Remember the what are what are those Furbies or whatever the
14:39
hell they they came out when the Furbies came out.
14:42
That thing I remember when the Furbies came out where you
14:45
couldn't get a Furby, you had to like special order it and you
14:48
wouldn't get it for months after the holidays.
14:50
So that was probably the the one president I always remembered
14:56
when I got it because that was the one thing I seriously wanted
15:00
and my parents made sure I had it.
15:01
But there was never. How about you, Speedy?
15:03
You remember any? Well, yeah, probably the most
15:05
significant one, because I ended up having it for a while, was
15:08
one of the first PSPS that came out at the time because there
15:11
was a kid I used to be the handheld.
15:13
PSP. Yes, the handheld one there was
15:14
always one of my friends at this program I used to do was always
15:17
playing it in the, in the while we were waiting and it was like
15:20
the thing that opened at 5:00 or something.
15:23
So I was always watching him play at Jabba.
15:24
He was also, he was a big Yankees fan too.
15:26
So he was always playing with the with the Yankees.
15:29
If he was playing the MLB the show game, he played other games
15:30
too. So I always wanted out of those.
15:32
And then I had it actually, I actually played it like for a
15:35
while, I actually built this Madden franchise where I I
15:37
controlled literally everything in it.
15:38
So I ended up playing it for a long time after that, but like,
15:42
I had a year. Spit it out A.
15:45
Year into it I put the disk in wrong too so I had to repair it
15:48
at GameStop too and it took a while and I was so devastated.
15:51
It's Speedy. If you ask him to say something,
15:54
he tells a whole story about it. But I always asked you, is it,
15:58
do you remember a present? We don't care what you did with
16:01
it, how you used it and what what year you.
16:05
Have job with like the Yankees. Yeah, but we didn't care.
16:08
We have a show to do. I didn't.
16:09
I don't really don't care what you did with it.
16:12
How about you? You know, poops, Is there a gift
16:15
that you remember? So I guess similar to Speedy, I
16:17
remember what is it? I had a Nintendo DS.
16:20
That was when the DS is kind of first came out.
16:22
Remember having the Super Mario Bros, Mario Party, a bunch of
16:25
other games, but I was a huge Mario guy, so that was pretty
16:28
dope. Pretty cool getting that for the
16:32
first time. That was the first time I ever
16:33
saw those handheld too so. Have you?
16:35
Have you? Seen.
16:36
Have you seen the real life like Mario Kart stuff that people are
16:39
doing? Yes, yes.
16:40
No real life Mario Kart like are you just talking about?
16:42
Making all the meta, of course, the meta, the meta stuff that
16:45
you can like actually go into the game and.
16:47
It's like. Nuts.
16:48
Yeah. Yeah, they have that.
16:50
And how about you fish before we go?
16:52
I know you're a Hanukkah guy. Is there a president that pops
16:55
in mind for you, my friend, that you could remember that really
17:00
stuck out to you when you were a kid?
17:02
No, not really. I got the PS1, I think when it
17:06
first came out in 97 with the Star Wars game.
17:11
That was just the coolest thing ever when it first came out.
17:14
And then there was like a Fifth Element game, if you remember
17:17
the Fifth Element movie, that that game was like pretty fun
17:21
too. But I just remember like the
17:22
very beginning of the PlayStation series.
17:24
I was, I've been a PlayStation guy ever since I've probably got
17:28
in Playstation's like 2 on the holidays.
17:32
Like we, you know, we don't really didn't like do the 8 days
17:34
of presents. My brother and I would just be
17:36
like, just give us the system and a game and we're good for
17:40
the the holidays. Just add them all up together.
17:42
We don't need socks, we don't need clothes, you know, because
17:45
it's not the same. It's not.
17:46
Christmas, I'm still I'm still I'm still a socks dad.
17:49
Like I'm still like I got one. I got one for Carter.
17:53
That's literally it says like the the Star Wars thing.
17:56
And obviously this goes back to you, Errol.
18:00
And I got it says like Luke, I'm your father, whatever.
18:03
And I got that for Carter for his stockings.
18:06
Well, I everybody knows I'm a die hard Star Wars fan and, and
18:10
we were talking about what is Nathan look like?
18:12
And we were talking about an Ewok.
18:14
So if anybody hasn't seen Star Wars, the Ewoks were.
18:17
So if you ever see one of these furry little things running
18:19
around during Comic Con and it looks like a weird little thing,
18:23
it's it's probably Nathan's. Family Errol.
18:25
Actually, I just got a better picture of what Nathan looks.
18:29
Like before we go, here we go. There we go.
18:32
You know, Nathan really is someone who cares.
18:35
And we know Nathan cares, you know, mostly, you know, about
18:41
specific people, but is that you know?
18:46
Something like that. Nathan is just one of the most
18:55
caring people that's ever been and I just wanted to throw put
18:58
it out there that people should know about the caring of Nathan.
19:01
No, he's a cat before we got started.
19:04
That's so great. That's still good.
19:08
But it's a lot of baseball today because the New York Mets look
19:12
like a bunch of fools. The Winter Meetings that ended
19:17
Wednesday could not have gone worse for the New York Mets
19:20
before the conference in Orlando was done.
19:24
They lost both star closer Edwin Diaz and All Star Silver Slugger
19:29
first baseman Pete Alonso, ESP. NS Jeff Passan reports that the
19:33
Los Angeles Dodgers have signed Edwin Diaz to a three-year, $69
19:38
million deal. The deal is the largest ever
19:41
foreclosure and was almost 5 million more per year than his
19:47
previous deal with the New York Mets.
19:50
Pasan added that the Mets never told Diaz that they were signing
19:55
Devin Williams last week and that frustrated him.
19:59
Diaz had a 1.63 ERAA, 0.87 WHIP, 98 strikeouts and 28 saves last
20:08
season. Pasan also reports that the
20:10
Baltimore Orioles have signed Pete Alonzo to A5 year and
20:14
$155,000,000 deal. The deal is worth 31,000,000
20:19
per. Year.
20:20
The largest average annual value in Orioles history.
20:25
ESPN reports that the Mets never even gave Pete Alonzo an offer
20:30
this offseason, simply allowing the polar bear to leave Queens
20:35
for nothing. Alonzo had a 272 batting
20:38
average, 38 home runs and 126 RB is last season for the New York
20:46
Mets. You know, Mets fans are very
20:49
upset. And who are they pointing
20:52
fingers at? Are they pointing fingers at
20:54
David Stearns? Are they pointing fingers at
20:58
Uncle Stevie? Uncle Stevie, he's has a
21:02
boatload of money. He's the richest owner in
21:04
professional sports. The guys got money growing out
21:07
of his ass and I believe that I and I honestly believe that
21:11
because last year I think he made a billion dollars in his
21:14
hedge fund. So we all know Uncle Stevie is
21:16
not going to be shy when it comes to flashing his money and
21:21
spending his money because he just gave Juan Soto last year
21:25
68,000,000 a year. But the fact here is Pete Alonso
21:29
the polar bear has been the face of the New York Mets.
21:33
And ever since Jacob degrom decided to part ways and go to
21:36
Texas, the Mets haven't had a home grown player of this
21:39
magnitude, A guy that really stood for something, a guy that
21:43
took away his social medias. He didn't want to be a part of
21:47
the social media market because he wanted to show the Mets that
21:50
he really, really cared. And he didn't want to get
21:52
involved in the conversations that were going behind the
21:56
scenes when it was when the Mets were being a laughingstock of
22:00
the league. But when you think about it and
22:03
you understand where the Mets are as an organization, they
22:07
were promised, the fans were promised five years ago when
22:11
Uncle Stevie took over for the Wilpons that they're going to be
22:14
champions, that he will do anything to make this team a
22:17
champion. And last year, really putting
22:20
all his money, all his, what do they call it, these shekels into
22:26
that basket, you would think that this wasn't, this wasn't
22:32
Hanukkah, this wasn't Christmas, this was all out New York Mets
22:36
wanting to win a championship. And going into this offseason,
22:40
everybody said, where do they go?
22:42
Do they sign Edwin Diaz and do they sign Pete Alonso and add a
22:45
school bowl or a somebody of that magnitude to make this team
22:50
better or maybe even bring in another player like Cody
22:53
Bellinger to really make this team have the line up with the
22:57
depth that they expect to win a championship?
22:59
They traded Brandon, IMO. A lot of people like that move.
23:03
And then when you thought about Edwin Diaz and Pete Alonso, it
23:06
was almost a shoe in after the after they traded Brandon, IMO.
23:10
But it wasn't. It wasn't so.
23:12
And Edwin Diaz, a lot of stories were coming out with the Dodgers
23:16
that he wanted to play with his brother Alexis.
23:18
And Alexis obviously came from the Cincinnati organization.
23:22
He's now, I think he would, if I'm not mistaken, he signed or
23:24
he was traded with the Dodgers last year.
23:26
He played for the Dodgers last year.
23:28
He's there again. And there were conversations
23:31
that Edwin wanted to go and play with his brother.
23:34
So a lot of people believe that was one of the things that
23:37
persuaded him to go play for the Dodgers.
23:40
But then you hear their story about Devin Williams, that the
23:42
Mets did not go to Edwin Diaz and tell him that they're going
23:46
to sign Devin Williams. That could have pissed him off.
23:49
I don't know what is true and what is not.
23:51
What I do know right now is the Mets and the organization looks
23:55
really, really bad because the team as a whole and the Mets
24:00
fans who think that they were all in on this season, that
24:03
being that there's this is a strike year after this year
24:07
there there could be a strike for baseball.
24:10
You would think that the Mets are going to go all in to win a
24:12
championship because we don't know what's going to happen with
24:14
baseball the year after. But guess what?
24:17
The Mets lose their star player, Pete Alonso.
24:20
They lose their star closer. They go to two different
24:23
organizations, the Orioles, who never spend money at all.
24:26
As you see, this is the highest contract when it comes to deals
24:31
per year that the Orioles have ever given a player.
24:34
Think about the Orioles have been around forever.
24:37
Peter Alonso is the biggest contract they've ever given to a
24:40
player. And that to me tells me that the
24:43
Mets do not know what they're doing.
24:45
Because I was talking to a bunch of Mets fans and they were
24:47
saying, what is it going to get? What's going to get done to get
24:51
Peter Alonso to sign back with the Mets?
24:52
And I said $200 million. That's where I see Pete Alonso.
24:55
Because we all know Scott Boris is his own, is his agent.
24:59
And we all know that the Mets are going to do what Pete Alonso
25:04
and Scott Boris are going to do, whatever it takes to get as much
25:06
money as they possibly can. But when you hear this contract,
25:09
five years, 155,000,000, he only made $1,000,000 more than Kyle
25:14
Schwarber, who took a little bit less after having a season that
25:17
he had an MVP season last year. You would have thought that the
25:20
Mets were all in on a contract like this.
25:22
This is a slam dunk for the New York Mets, and the Mets just
25:27
completely wash their hands with Pete Alonso that quick.
25:31
The polar bear is gone. Sayonara, Rub his belly.
25:34
Wash them out. Dry them out.
25:36
I don't know what the hell the Mets are doing right now.
25:38
The organization looks completely bad.
25:41
And now what are the Mets going to do?
25:42
Are they going to go all in on Cody Bellinger?
25:44
Is he that much better than Pete Alonso, A homegrown player?
25:48
Are you going to go all out on Kyle Tucker?
25:51
Are you going to bet that Kyle Tucker is going to choose the
25:53
Mets out of all the teams that including the Dodgers that are
25:56
interested in bringing them in, or the Yankees?
25:59
Why would he go to the Nets and then the the Tarek Scubal Scubal
26:03
thing? Or are the Mets willing to give
26:06
up all their prospects because you know Detroit is going to do
26:09
whatever it takes to grab whatever they can from the New
26:12
York Mets to get this deal done? And are they going to overpay to
26:16
get Tarek? It doesn't make it.
26:18
And the Mets are in a bad spot right now.
26:21
And the Yankees, with how Steinbrenner coming out like he
26:23
did a couple of weeks ago and saying and pointing his finger
26:26
at the Dodgers in the league and money this and money that, I
26:29
think Uncle Stevie looks bad. You know why?
26:32
Because Uncle Stevie's all about bringing in a casino.
26:35
He's getting it approved. And is it, Is this the reason
26:38
why he wanted to buy the Mets? Was this the reason why he
26:42
wanted the Mets really strictly to get a casino into Queens and
26:47
him to get even richer? Because to me, as much as he's
26:50
invested billions and billions of dollars into this
26:53
organization, it looks really, really bad when your face, your
26:57
player, your homegrown player goes to another team.
27:01
What I would say about 100 miles away from you, a team that
27:06
doesn't like to spend, a team that is not expected to win next
27:10
year because they don't have the pitching on their roster.
27:13
He go. He decides to go there instead
27:15
of staying with the Mets where he has a chance to win a World
27:18
Series. It makes no sense.
27:20
The Mets look really, really bad.
27:22
And any Mets fan sitting here today that is going to make
27:25
excuses for the Mets on this deal.
27:27
David Stearns should be fired after this year.
27:30
If this doesn't and he goes all in on Kyle Tucker or even bring
27:35
in Cody Bellinger and Kyle Tucker and get Tarik Skubal.
27:39
And if, if this goes to to crap, it goes there wherever it's
27:43
going to go. I, I, David Stearns should be
27:46
absolutely fine. I don't care how close he is
27:49
with the fact that he's Uncle Stevie's best friend.
27:51
I don't care. This looks really, really bad
27:53
because this guy grew up a Mets fan and I'm talking about David
27:57
Stearns. He wanted this job and now
27:59
you're hearing that the Milwaukee, but the Milwaukee
28:02
Brewers, a lot of the players didn't like David Stearns.
28:05
That David Stearns was really weighed out his welcome over
28:08
there and he goes to the Mets and Mets fans were so excited.
28:11
Oh, we got the best GM and the best GM just gave away.
28:17
Gave away the best closer in baseball and arguably one of the
28:21
best power hitters in baseball. Makes no sense.
28:23
Yeah, David Stern was brought in to get the process kind of
28:27
middled between what the Mets did previously with Billy and
28:31
Eppler, as we, as we call them, get overpaying Max shares or
28:34
overpaying Marte and Verlander and all those other guys that
28:37
did not work out over here. And David Stearns is coming in
28:40
with the process of we're going to develop like the Brewers.
28:43
They need the middle ground to work and that's why they brought
28:46
him in. But if this middle ground is
28:47
nitpicking over 3,000,000 for Edwin.
28:50
Diaz but. Speedy.
28:51
Too speedy. When you say that too, think
28:53
about like I, I retired with the Brewers and got a little bit of
28:59
experience. Like, do you do you think he
29:02
tried to take that mentality from the Brewers to the Mets?
29:06
When you have an owner that's going to spend like you, you
29:09
can't take that mentality, can you?
29:10
Well, that's what I'm saying. I think the middle ground of
29:13
what that mentality was supposed to be with the Brewers, I don't
29:15
really think has been adapted to from the pitching standpoint
29:18
especially. And when you look at Edwin Diaz,
29:21
yeah, David Stearns made a similar move with Josh Hader,
29:24
traded Josh Hader to the Padres in 2022, and then obviously he
29:27
signed a big contract with the Astros since then, trusting the
29:29
Brewers bullpen process to make that kind of thing work.
29:32
The difference is the Brewers bullpen process even before
29:35
Stearns got there was always good.
29:37
They trade, they traded Josh Hader, Josh Hader, Corey Knable
29:41
was the closer when Josh Hader came up and they had other good
29:43
relievers in the past. Before that they brought in K
29:45
Rod when they had John Axford there and it was a still a good
29:48
system. The Mets have never had a good
29:49
system of relief pitchers. The Mets on their World Series
29:52
team finally got some good guys with Addison Reed, they traded
29:55
for Tyler Clipper. They made that kind of thing
29:56
work. Ever since then they have still
29:58
been a mess in terms of getting relievers.
29:59
Even with Diaz there. We always questioned, oh do the
30:02
Mets have enough bullpen depth? They tried it the last year and
30:05
look at look at the disaster turned into so that element I
30:08
cannot trust the process of and again, nitpicking over 5 million
30:12
for Pete Alonso. Pete Alonso would have gotten
30:14
five years, 150 in the market value from what was that was the
30:16
rumor. And not even giving him an offer
30:19
is just a sign of disrespect too, which is not something that
30:22
you want to present yourself as an organization.
30:24
And I'm not saying the Mets should adapt back to the Billy
30:26
Eppler ways because those were terrible too.
30:28
But if the Mets want to be respected as a good baseball
30:31
culture, despite all the money that they have, they can't be
30:33
treating their players like this.
30:34
And that's where I think maybe the stingy of Stearns Brewers
30:38
ways got to him a little bit. They just need to find a middle
30:40
ground. And the other process I don't
30:42
like that they haven't done yet. They haven't traded for a
30:43
pitcher or signed a pitcher in their prime yet, which is really
30:47
against their values. And they just tried to do what
30:49
they did in two years ago and try to these dark throws of one
30:51
year contracts and just not working.
30:54
So do you think it's kind of both too and if you look at it
30:57
too in the New York market per SE, right.
31:00
Is it, do you think it's kind of in the same way of what like
31:05
when George is doing it like, you know, making the Kevin Brown
31:08
trade and like in signing those guys like trying to get that
31:11
like the one year like see what they can do and if we can win?
31:15
That's what they try to do with like Cantana and then they try
31:18
to with Montana. George Stonegren, who would
31:20
never have done this. No way in hell he would have
31:23
lost Pete Alonso. But no, no, not at that point,
31:26
not at that point, but like, but he did do it.
31:29
It exactly kind of what Speedy's saying is to like when they made
31:34
those deals and like that's what George did too with like, you
31:37
know, the Kevin Browns and the Randy Johnsons of of bringing
31:40
them over and the Carl Bavanos and giving him his deal.
31:44
Like of like when they were hot, like let's we're going to win
31:47
now. But are are you really trying to
31:50
win now or like what are you? What are you doing?
31:52
Well, they're trying to win now because.
31:53
But I think what you're saying is valid to.
31:56
Wait a second. You're saying that the Mets are
31:58
trying to win now? And how are they trying to win
32:00
now? They're bringing in Devin
32:01
Williams, who had a bad season last year with the Yankees.
32:04
And by the way, now, now on top of it, there is more weight now
32:11
on Devin Williams now because he doesn't have Edwin Diaz.
32:14
So now it's going to be and, and people have talked about it and
32:18
his weight now has become tenfold.
32:21
Yeah, he got his money, right. He got his back.
32:24
But at the same time, it's like you've seen what he went through
32:26
with the Yankees. Now you're the you're the end
32:29
all that meets all for the back end of that bullpen, speedy like
32:32
you're saying. And they haven't had that
32:34
process of like having depth in the bullpen.
32:37
What are you going to do if he shits the bed again?
32:40
Yeah, and that's the process that they've been missing.
32:42
Like, if you look at the rest of their bullpen too, Brooks Raley
32:44
is literally the only other one I could trust in that bullpen
32:47
right now. You had Reed Garrett, who had a
32:49
good beginning of the year but fell off in the second-half.
32:51
Obviously all the other relievers they didn't bring back
32:52
yet because they were just a dead disaster in the
32:54
second-half. And then same kind of thing with
32:56
the starters too. Like I get the idea of not
32:59
wanting to do what Eppler did, but at least go after somebody
33:02
of quality, not freaking Frankie Montana.
33:03
And one of our fans, Sam Kim, says that he doesn't believe.
33:07
And I'm reading what he said. He says it's not about the three
33:10
million with the Mets. It was about giving him more
33:12
than three years and, and, and maybe that's true.
33:15
Maybe Sam is right. Maybe the Mets didn't want to
33:18
give him the five years or maybe not giving him the four years.
33:21
Here's the problem. When you have a player of this
33:23
magnitude, these guys don't grow on trees.
33:26
You don't you don't find guys that are going to hit between 35
33:29
and 40 home runs and give you 100 RBI's almost every single
33:32
season. Who buys, by the way, plays
33:34
injured. If you look at Pete Alonzo's
33:37
career, he plays the majority of the game.
33:40
He was really only hurt two years ago.
33:42
He's actually healthy. Every single year.
33:45
So the Mets had a quality hitter in their lineup every single
33:49
year and you're sitting back here and you're going to bet,
33:52
hey, Cody Bellinger, Cody Bellinger can't stay healthy as
33:54
back problems. So you're going to bet on Cody
33:56
Bellinger or Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker has never played on
34:00
an on a big stage like New York. I know Chicago and the Cubs,
34:05
that's a big stage. But here in New York, it's a
34:07
completely different ball game. There's too much pressure here.
34:11
We've heard it and now you have guys like, you know, somebody
34:14
who went to Boston who likes to take shots at the Yankees
34:17
pitchers and, and we've seen hitters and, and all these other
34:20
guys that have come to New York that haven't succeeded.
34:22
And then you have guys like Joppa Chamberlain, who was
34:24
brought up in the Yankees organization that succeeded here
34:28
and when he went to different places, succeeded and won
34:31
multiple World Series. I, I sit here today and I'm
34:34
going to tell you this. I'm not a Mets fan, but I feel
34:36
bad for the Mets fan because you sit here today and you're,
34:39
you're trying to figure out what did the Mets do here?
34:42
Did they make sense on not offering anything to beat
34:46
Alonzo? They didn't offer him nothing.
34:48
And Edwin Diaz sitting back and this is your best closure.
34:52
This is your best relief picture you've ever had.
34:54
If you really look back at all the times and all the relief
34:57
pictures you had and you didn't go to him and tell him, hey,
35:00
listen, Edwin, I just want to let you know we're we're going
35:02
to bring. In he was probably the best one
35:04
since Franco, right Speedy in my.
35:06
Room better. He's better, way better.
35:08
When you look at the analytics I've looked at I, I knew you
35:10
were going to say John Franco because John Franco is very well
35:13
known in the Yankees. The Yankees over the years have
35:17
always taken shots at John Franco because he loves taking
35:20
shots at the Yankee fans. I like John Franco, I like his
35:23
personality. I met him a couple of times.
35:25
He's he's as a long lasting Met and Saint Louis Cardinal.
35:29
So anybody that knows John Franco, you know the type of
35:31
personality he is, but John Franco never did the things that
35:35
Edwin Diaz did and Edwin Diaz stood for something else for the
35:39
New York met fans. One one thing is you're in
35:42
Queens and that's A to me, when you when you look at Queens,
35:46
it's very Dominican and Puerto Rican.
35:48
It was everything over there. They built their team, They
35:51
brought in Lindor, they brought in Soto.
35:53
They're building their roster. They have a if I'm not mistaking
35:57
their their their coach, their manager is Puerto Rican, right?
36:01
So they built it that way. And you have the best closing
36:05
relief pitcher in baseball, a Spanish Puerto Rican.
36:09
I think he's Puerto Rican, right?
36:11
Yeah, that that was where he got hurt.
36:12
Unfortunately, what what I'm saying you, you had the best
36:16
Spanish relief pitcher in all the baseball and you just said,
36:19
you know what? We're we're just, but it's funny
36:21
you bring that up too, because they've even said too when when
36:25
he was in WBC and he blew out, they're like, our season was
36:30
over. Yeah, like our season was over
36:32
when we knew, like, obviously we weren't going to have.
36:34
That literally a week after he signed his contract.
36:37
Yeah, I, I got something that I don't think yet we've brought up
36:41
yet. This feels like almost like a
36:43
Michael Corleone, like hit job by Stearns here.
36:47
Think about this for a second. Who are the clubhouse leaders on
36:50
the Mets for the last couple of years?
36:53
Brandon Nimmo Diaz, Pete Alonzo, Jacob degrom, Frankie Litt.
36:59
Well, he's gone. Yeah.
37:00
Well, I'm saying Jacob the gone. Yeah.
37:02
Lindor is the only one left standing.
37:04
And you know, it's very curious to me that these guys want to
37:07
leave when we know that Steve Cohen makes families like Juan
37:12
Soto's family feel really comfortable and safe at Citi
37:16
Field. It's such a wonderful experience
37:18
that they couldn't get a Yankee Stadium.
37:20
I don't understand why anyone would want to leave after the
37:22
top notch service that's being done for the families.
37:25
I think it's so good that Juan Soto wouldn't want to play for
37:27
the Yankees. He'd want to play for the Mets
37:29
when guys like Diaz don't want to play for the Mets.
37:31
Alonso, if even if he did want to play for the Mets, for some
37:35
reason, Stearns is being cheap about it.
37:37
And listen, I used to play a lot of poker in college.
37:41
If you have the chip stack in a tournament, you use it like
37:45
that's the whole point. You bully people around when you
37:47
have more chips and you get them out of hands and you end up
37:50
taking down more hands and you win.
37:53
But to your point, Fish, you're 100% right.
37:55
Exactly. It's chips in the chair, right?
37:57
What did the Dodgers just do? Exactly.
38:00
The Dodgers just won back-to-back, and what did they
38:03
do? Oh, let's add on better.
38:05
We're better now because that was our weakness, the Dodgers.
38:08
Weren't playing poker, they were playing craps.
38:11
The Dodgers are playing poker, but they rigged the deck.
38:13
That's the problem. That's what's going on right now
38:15
in baseball. Fish, do you play?
38:17
Poker with deferred chips. Well, they just have more chips
38:20
than everybody, right? Because nobody else is willing
38:22
to pony up the future like that. Though.
38:25
At the same time, like as as a player or like in in any
38:29
position, if you know that that's what they're doing.
38:31
And I know Air will go back this and call him the deferred
38:35
Dodgers. But.
38:37
At the same time, like, wouldn't you as a player, if if you're
38:41
going to be able to like know you're going to have a chance to
38:44
win, like, why wouldn't you go? And no, like, OK, yeah, my owner
38:51
will spend a lot of money, but he didn't do anything, so why
38:54
wouldn't I go here? It's exactly what Glass now said
38:57
when he was with the Rays and did whatever.
38:59
Then he goes, he's like, you can't beat him, join him, right?
39:03
And if you're going to do that, why would you not want to play?
39:06
Like, why would you not want to play for a team that's going to
39:09
like put you in the best position that you can?
39:12
You know. To be able to win.
39:14
You know who the Dodgers remind me of?
39:16
The New England Patriots, those championship Patriots teams.
39:19
Now, they didn't use deferred money, but what Bill Belichick
39:22
and Tom Brady did and Robert Kraft did was they went to Tom
39:25
Brady. He was the leader and he knew he
39:27
was going to make money and endorsements and everything he
39:29
would take. A But also, but also Errol, let
39:31
me cut you off for a second, but he didn't use deferred money.
39:35
But what did Tom Brady do? He didn't take as much money
39:38
because he the dudes in front of him covered his butt to make
39:43
sure that he didn't get hit so they could win.
39:45
So he paid Carl Nix. He paid all those guys to cover
39:48
his butt to make sure he didn't get hit.
39:52
I I that was my. Deferred money, but not really.
39:57
But that that's my take. The fact here is, is the
40:00
Patriots did this. They they had ways of winning
40:03
championships and their way was is they had a superstar
40:07
quarterback that didn't care about the money.
40:08
He cared about winning. And, and The thing is, is it
40:12
wasn't deferred money, but he took instead of taking 3540
40:16
million a year at the time and being the highest paid
40:19
quarterback in all of the NFL, he took 18,000,017 million.
40:23
Cut it down because hey, I'm going to get Gronk back or I'm
40:27
going to do this back and I'm going to pay.
40:29
You pay Edelman, you pay what bring in another tackle that's
40:32
going to be able to protect me so I can win another 2 Super
40:36
Bowls. And that's what they did.
40:37
And that's, that was the the whole, to me, the, the whole
40:41
grind of the New England Patriots of those times and that
40:43
dominant period of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
40:46
Now going back to this story and the New York Mets, I don't know
40:50
what we can call the New York Mets right now.
40:52
Do we? Do we call this we call the
40:54
Wilpons, the coupons. Now, I'm not saying that Uncle
40:58
Stevie hasn't spent a lot of money.
41:00
If you look at Uncle Stevie and what he spent in the last five
41:02
years, he spent a lot of money, but he put a billions and
41:05
billions of dollars into the wrong players.
41:07
You're bringing Marte. What has Marte done for him?
41:10
I mean, you've done everything and anything to make the fans
41:14
happy on investing into players that were not Mets.
41:17
And then finally you have long lasting that's like Pete Alonso
41:21
and you know what, David Stearns didn't like him or or they
41:25
didn't like the analytics or they didn't put the analytics
41:27
together in a way where they thought that a guy like Pete
41:31
Alonso is important to the roster.
41:34
So they said, you know what? We don't need Pete.
41:36
We're not offering him anything. We're letting.
41:38
Him go and that's something we talk about on the show a lot
41:41
too. And you can talk about this too.
41:43
Fish as as a coach, like what is that?
41:46
What does that do for the culture of the team?
41:48
If like if, if you're in a locker room, a clubhouse,
41:51
whatever, like when they're either not like giving these
41:56
guys offers or not doing anything like what is that like
42:00
as a coach? Like how does, how does that
42:02
change like your perception or like how like, how do I get them
42:06
on board to like, you know, want to win and like you don't want
42:10
to compete for each other and everything when it's like these
42:15
guys and, and Brandon and he's obviously made his money, but
42:19
does that change the culture of like kind of what you want to do
42:23
to win? I mean, I've been in as a
42:25
teacher, not really as a coach, but as a teacher in some really
42:29
toxic places. I've where you literally have
42:33
people that are trying to lead by example and they're being put
42:39
out in front meeting do to do all the work in front of
42:41
everybody. And then there's your do a bonus
42:44
before Christmas. And I worked at this place only
42:47
a few months and they let her go before she was supposed to get a
42:49
5 figure bonus and she was doing everything there.
42:53
And if you don't think that's going to kill the culture of a
42:56
place, then you don't know anything about it.
42:59
You know, as it's, it doesn't matter what profession, if
43:01
you're not going to respect the people that have put the work in
43:04
at the place ahead of you, then people aren't going to like
43:08
working there. There's no reason to like
43:09
working there. And I think that's really the
43:11
long story, you know, short of all of it, you know, it's just
43:15
kind of a bummer for the Mets and your fans.
43:18
I feel bad for the Met fans. I don't think it's a bummer for
43:21
the the organization. The organization stupid.
43:24
They gave the reins to David Stearns and David Stearns is
43:27
right now. Hey, you know what?
43:29
We got Stone, we got soda, we got Lindor, we got all this
43:32
other stuff. We're we're going into Christmas
43:35
and we're, we're happy what we have.
43:36
Can I ask you a question though, Errol?
43:38
If you were, you were put in a vacuum at the start of this
43:40
offseason where you're like, we got two guys we could choose to
43:43
pay Devin Williams or Edwin Diaz.
43:45
Edwin Diaz, how are you throwing that money at Devin Williams
43:48
after last season? Devin Williams came to New York
43:51
with the Yankees. He came to the American League
43:53
East. It didn't work out.
43:55
It was a lot of pressure on him. It was a different to me.
43:57
It was in he was in a different position.
43:58
He has been successful in the National League.
44:01
He's been one of the best relief pitchers in baseball for like 5
44:04
years. He's been as dominant as any
44:06
pitcher in the National and consistent.
44:09
And then he goes to the Yankees and he wasn't.
44:11
Now the Mets are thinking, hey, you know what, we bring in Devin
44:15
Williams, we're not paying him as much as we're going to pay in
44:17
Edwin Diaz. And they thought, I really
44:20
thought that the Mets thought they were still going to get
44:23
Edwin Diaz and they were going to get him and he they were
44:26
still going to pay him what the the Dodgers were going to give
44:28
him. And they were never bringing
44:30
Pete Alonzo. I don't really believe the Mets
44:32
were ever thinking about bringing Pete Alonzo back.
44:35
It was Edwin Diaz and then Devin Williams and then they were
44:38
going to go after Cody Bellinger or Kyle Tucker or make a trade
44:41
and add a big, you know, a big bat in the in the line.
44:44
Do you think they're going to make a huge swing right now,
44:46
though? Yeah, because 100%, you know, I
44:47
don't know if Uncle Stevie's going to be happy with it.
44:49
I know George wouldn't have stood for it as the Yankees.
44:52
Like he. The first reaction Steinbrenner
44:55
would have done to something like this would have been to
44:56
trade for freaking Mike Trout or something like that, and then
44:59
get and then get like, you know, oh, well, he's great, but we got
45:02
him for nothing. You know, we're and then we're
45:04
gonna get three more guys that used to be MVP's.
45:07
Maybe we can get something out of them.
45:09
But we're going to, we're going to fire back.
45:11
I wonder what's going to happen if I'm a Mets fan.
45:13
I think I want to see some other tow.
45:15
Job. You know, maybe it's you're
45:17
getting that Tarek Scubal, maybe that's the move.
45:21
You give up the farm, you get Scubal, you pay Scubal, now you
45:25
have the ace for the rest of the way.
45:26
All. Right.
45:27
All right. So you're saying the Mets will
45:28
go after Tarek Scubal? That's fine.
45:30
Hold on. But.
45:31
But we're talking speedy. Tell us like from because you're
45:34
a Mets guy. We're we're not Mets guys like
45:37
speedy like is is what fish saying is, is that something
45:41
that you would like a serial killing or would they do it?
45:45
They they should be. I've always bashed the Mets
45:48
front office before even Stearns got there for not either trading
45:52
for or signing like a younger, either a younger pitcher or a
45:55
pitcher in their prime type thing.
45:57
And obviously school is probably the most extreme example of
45:59
that. But that process has been really
46:01
flawed for just the way the Mets have operated for not being able
46:04
to grow their pitching. Now obviously they try to grow
46:06
their homegrown pitching outside of the ground.
46:08
None of them developed well. So maybe they got they got
46:10
afraid and went to the other approach and then they went away
46:13
from the not not Scherzer and Justin Verlander 40 year old men
46:17
approach. And I just think they just don't
46:19
really have a good system in place to do it.
46:21
And I want to bring up that you brought up two job before that
46:23
in addition to the Devin Williams being thrown into the
46:27
fire, those young players, whoever's not traded, whoever
46:30
Vientos will start at first, you know, possibly Carson Benz to
46:32
come home and start in the outfield or maybe Mauricio if
46:34
he's not ready or something like that.
46:35
You're throwing them into the fire for a lot of bigger roles
46:38
right away than they would have imagined.
46:39
Sam Kim is saying that they're going to give him, they're going
46:43
to give Stearns at least two more years and because he wants
46:46
to mold and they believe he's going to mold the team the way
46:48
he wants to mold it. And maybe he's right.
46:50
Sam, you might be right. You very much might be right
46:53
that the Mets say that the Organs organization might say we
46:56
got to give Stearns a little bit more time to figure out how he
46:59
sees this team and where he sees this team in the future.
47:02
But you got all these young pitchers have McClain, Tong and
47:05
all these other guys. Now you're talking about Tarek
47:07
Scubal. Now, if Tarek Scubal is the guy,
47:10
you're going to have to give up a significant portion of your
47:13
prospects to land a Tarek Scubal because there's no way in hell
47:17
Detroit's going to say here, here's the best pitcher in
47:20
baseball, the second best pitcher in baseball.
47:22
Him and schemes you can argue are the two best.
47:24
You're going to just hand them over over in, in the prime of
47:26
his career, 2829 years old. There's no way in hell.
47:30
And the Mets, after losing 2 superstar players, 2 important
47:34
pieces to the puzzle, is that enough to get you over the hump
47:38
to be able to compete with the Dodgers after them landing Edwin
47:42
Diaz and they're not done. They could get Kyle Tucker.
47:44
So I mean, as a Mets fan and I'm not, but as a Mets fan and I'm,
47:49
I'm honest to God, but believing that the Mets fans should be
47:53
pissed off. They shouldn't be happy about
47:55
this. This is is not a good sign of
47:57
where the organization is moving.
47:59
The only thing I could say for the Mets fan is sit back and
48:03
hope that David Stearns actually understands what he just did and
48:09
what he just heard when it came to the fans and what the fans
48:13
believed in a Pete Alonzo with Edwin Diaz was for the last
48:16
couple of years. That's the only thing I could
48:18
say. Speaking of shocking, in a
48:21
shocking story that is still developing, Michigan University
48:26
fired head coach Sharon Moore with A cause on Wednesday, and
48:32
the cause is having an inappropriate relationship with
48:36
a female staffer from within the program.
48:40
The New York Post reports that football staffer Paige Shivers
48:45
addressed address is where a 911 call came from where apparently
48:51
more threatened to harm both her and himself more than turned
48:57
over to a detained by or detained and detained by police
49:02
as a suspect of an alleged assault of a school employee.
49:07
TMZ released a dispatch of Moore's wife calling 911,
49:11
claiming Moore was suicidal after losing his job.
49:16
ESP NS Adam Rittenberg reports that Moore will remain in police
49:21
custody until his scheduled court case Friday.
49:24
Several Michigan football players and students said they
49:27
knew of of the potential scandal after Michigan lost to USC on
49:32
October 11th, and the New York Post reports say he was behaving
49:37
more and more erratically as the season went on towards players
49:42
and staff. Since Moore is still under A2
49:46
year show cause what is it show cause penalty from the Connor
49:51
Stallion scandal, It isn't likely that more will be allowed
49:56
to coach college football again, regardless of how this plays out
50:01
legally. This story, obviously we don't
50:05
know the whole thing behind it. There's a lot more that we're
50:08
going to hear and there's a lot more of the story that's going
50:10
to come out and it might not be very good.
50:12
Now me and fish were talking about it and there's this
50:16
another Penn State scandal. Now, I don't know if it's that
50:19
bad that that was really, really bad.
50:22
But the fact here is Michigan's been part of not one, but two
50:27
scandals in the amount of three years.
50:29
And you would think when you think about Jim Harbaugh leaving
50:33
Michigan and going to the NFL and all that story and what the
50:37
story came out with the Connor Stallion and stealing signs and,
50:41
and what they were doing in Ohio State.
50:43
As we have brought up Ohio State and, and, and obviously Coach
50:46
Day and what he has done over the years to Michigan football,
50:49
trying to save, stay Pat where Michigan was dominating out of
50:54
state and finally something needed to give and it gave with
50:58
the Conocerian story. Now you're hearing this story
51:02
and this is the thing and this is where I look at it.
51:05
Has this been going on since Jim Harbaugh?
51:08
And if it has, did Jim know anything about it?
51:13
And if Jim knew something about this and the FBI has
51:16
investigated or will investigate deeper into the story, does Jim
51:21
Harbaugh get pulled into this? Does he get arrested now?
51:25
I don't know. I don't know how deep it has
51:27
gone, but it seems to believe, I seem to believe that it wasn't
51:32
going on just for two years. This guy has been there for a
51:35
long, long time. And well, the arrow to tear at
51:38
the same time. It's like exactly what you said.
51:40
It affects so many like people on different depths of, of what
51:45
like it really could be in like you said, how long has this been
51:50
going on and how long have they have they known about it before
51:53
it happens? And, and I kind of, I kind of
51:56
relate this one to kind of like the Tiger Woods thing, right?
52:00
And where like when one thing happens, the iceberg just
52:04
appears, right? And so you see it and now all of
52:08
a sudden all this other stuff comes out and you're like, it
52:11
originally supposedly from a DoorDash slavery of him getting
52:16
a Plan B delivered to his office, right?
52:19
What? Like what are we doing?
52:21
Like what are you're getting a DoorDash delivery from a Plan B
52:26
to your office? Like what?
52:27
What are we talking about? You know what's really weird
52:30
about this story? And again, we don't know the
52:32
whole story. So all the fans out there,
52:34
they're, they're gonna have assumptions and they're gonna
52:36
assume what the story is really about.
52:39
What we do know is More is in custody right now and he's not
52:44
going to be released until Friday, if he even gets
52:46
released. We don't know what the depths of
52:49
this story is. Only the police do and the FBI,
52:52
which has investigated. And that's the crazy thing about
52:55
all these stories that we speak about.
52:57
We talk about basketball. We had Tim Donaghy on the show
53:00
where you're talking about sports betting.
53:02
Sports has become so big. It's become a business.
53:04
And now you have coaches with the NIL deals in the portal and
53:08
all the money that is given to these coaches and they get away
53:10
with murder. They're getting away with so
53:13
many different things, not just in college sports, but in
53:15
professional sports. It it has you wondering, do they
53:19
have control? Does the, the leaks have
53:22
control? Do the committee and, and the
53:25
NCAA have control of these guys that are making 10s of millions
53:28
of dollars and not really understanding why these guys are
53:32
involved in these scandals? And when you look at Moore and
53:35
you look at this story, you knew that Moore had to keep quiet.
53:38
He needs to make sure everything was clear and clean because of
53:42
the scandal that happened with Connor Stallions.
53:44
And now all of a sudden he knew about that.
53:46
He knew he had to keep keep clean.
53:48
He knew that he was the guy that was going to stay pat over there
53:50
after Jim Harbaugh decided to flee and he took a lot of his
53:53
coaches to go and coach over there in LA.
53:56
He was the one that stayed there.
53:57
Now, maybe the reason why he was staying there is because he had
54:00
a relationship over there and that's why he wanted to stay.
54:03
There could have been a lot of other reasons why behind the
54:07
scenes on why Moore decided to stay there and not flee and go
54:11
and coach over there with LA. Because the fact here is they're
54:15
not allowed to play for a championship.
54:16
They're not. They're not allowed to go for a
54:18
national championship because of what happened with the Connor
54:21
Stallion story. And now you're sitting here and
54:23
you're wondering, hey, did Michigan now the players knew
54:27
about it? Did the executives, did the
54:29
director of Michigan football know that this was going on?
54:33
And if he did know what was going on, why isn't he getting
54:37
arrested? And that that happened in Penn
54:39
State? That's the same thing that
54:41
happened in Penn State. Paternal knew some what was
54:45
going on, but he kind of looked the other way and and you saw
54:51
what happened. It ruined everything.
54:52
Penn State, all the championships, all the great
54:55
things that Penn State did washed away because of one
54:58
person. And, and again, I'm not saying
55:02
that Michigan is a great school and a great program and they're
55:06
great people running it. They're not.
55:07
We all know they're not. And I'm going to say that about
55:10
a lot of, you know, programs and sports teams.
55:14
They're not all great. But when you think about this
55:16
story and you wonder that there are young women and young men
55:21
being abused because of power, that to me makes me wonder if
55:27
the business and the sports world and in the sport is bigger
55:31
than everything else. And if that's the truth,
55:34
something needs to be done. Something needs to be taken over
55:37
by the NCAA and in college sports.
55:40
Because if they don't do something about this soon, it's
55:44
going to get worse. Because this isn't the only
55:47
scandal going on right now. It's not just Michigan.
55:50
I, I'm, I'm not creating a story and I don't know, but I'm going
55:55
to tell you this right now. There are scandals going on
55:57
every single day, every single day in sports.
56:01
It's just a matter of who's getting caught and who's not.
56:04
And guess what? Moore got caught because the guy
56:07
was sloppy, stupid, dumb. And again, an organization, a
56:11
program that does not know how to control their coaches and
56:16
they don't know how to control where the money is going and why
56:19
the money is going to those people that do not know how to
56:22
control themselves sexually intimately and understand what
56:26
the emblem and the the program is all about for, for developing
56:32
young men and young ladies to move on in their lives.
56:34
Yeah, the direct analogy would be the Penn State scandal, too.
56:37
And you talk about the athletic director is having a lot of say
56:40
in trying to cover these kinds of things up.
56:41
And it's worse when it's at a personal level, too.
56:44
It's one thing, obviously. Obviously we talked about these
56:46
betting schemes and all this other stuff, all these
56:47
recruiting violations that people have done in the past.
56:50
And I brought it up a few months ago with Mel Tucker at Michigan
56:53
State State too. And Michigan State's been
56:54
another one that was suspect obviously with the whole
56:56
gymnastics scandal to Larry Nasser.
56:59
And Tom is always believes no stuff about it and they cover
57:02
that up, obviously. How long was Larry Nasser
57:04
getting away with it? 10s of years.
57:06
And years they had to go to that whole court case too, which took
57:08
about five years for the gymnastics team to actually win
57:11
their case. And.
57:12
The United States train the United States and.
57:16
And what you what you said though Errol too at the same
57:19
like how many people like you said to the depth of it, like
57:22
how many people did that affect? How many people knew about that?
57:26
That we. Probably don't even know about
57:29
like as, as we speak in the media world and where you don't
57:33
know like it's, it's so further more than we will ever even know
57:40
in how it's like affected these people in, in ways where you,
57:45
you, you can't quantify, you can't even say what it is,
57:49
right. But it's, it's so much deeper.
57:53
And, and it's, it's crazy too, because there's, and you're 100%
57:59
right where there's so many different organizations that
58:06
this happened to my son's in college right now and literally
58:09
they were at a Christmas party and their coach just said he's
58:12
gone. And you just, it's crazy to me
58:17
like as as a parent too, like when that happens, that affects
58:22
your children. Like you said, this is young
58:24
men, young women. And that affects on so many
58:28
depths of what it is because they're going to move on and
58:32
they're going to become great and they're going to do their
58:35
own things. But it it affects in so many
58:39
ways that you don't even understand, like, and there's so
58:43
many people that hide things, right?
58:45
Especially when you have depth of a program that's that wealthy
58:48
too. I was telling fish off air.
58:50
Like one of the top five wealthiest schools in all of
58:52
professional. They're the wealthiest school in
58:53
the Big 10 and obviously hence why they have the biggest
58:56
stadium and, and you were talking about it with like the
58:59
the Connor Stallion scandal and all the other coaches that might
59:02
have been covering that up. And let's be honest, the Connor
59:05
Stallion Stallions was not to me.
59:09
I, I don't call it a scandal. I, I didn't know ever looked at
59:13
the Connor Stallion story to be a scandal.
59:16
It was all to me, it was all taken to a whole nother level
59:19
because of Ohio State and Ryan Day.
59:22
I believe it was all about Ryan Day and is just to me, his
59:27
narcissism. And he was doing whatever it
59:29
took to brush, brush out Michigan and Michigan football
59:34
because he knew that Ohio State, the way they recruit and the way
59:37
they do things over the last couple of years was really being
59:40
blocked by Michigan and Jim Harbaugh.
59:43
And I believe that. And Connor, Connor Stallions is
59:45
not the only person reading and stealing socks.
59:48
Everybody is Oh no, they hired 6 other students.
59:51
Everybody does it, everybody does it.
59:55
So to anybody, for anybody to think that, oh, Connor Stallions
59:59
is a cheater, he was the he's a worthless piece of.
1:00:01
Garbage. And yes, he's a die hard
1:00:03
Michigan fan and yes, he came out, he said he would do it
1:00:06
again if it came down to it, if it comes to winning a national
1:00:09
championship. I think any fan would say that.
1:00:11
The fact here is this scandal is a lot, a lot worse when you
1:00:17
think about when you're hearing a young lady and abusive
1:00:21
assaults and all this other stuff and that this could be
1:00:23
tailing back from years ago. And again, if Jim Harbaugh knew
1:00:29
anything about this, and I'm not, by the way, I'm not
1:00:31
creating, creating a story, but it to me it's, it's kind of
1:00:35
unlikely that this just happened.
1:00:38
Now, this has been going on a long time.
1:00:42
This hasn't been going on for a year.
1:00:44
This could, this should. And I believe that's why the
1:00:48
investigation has, it usually takes 2 years before you're
1:00:52
going to arrest somebody. You're investigating this and
1:00:55
you're looking into it. They don't, they can't arrest
1:00:58
you unless they have enough on you.
1:01:00
It's the same thing with the Mafia.
1:01:02
It took him years, years to take down John Gotti.
1:01:07
Think about it. And John Gotti, they knew he was
1:01:09
killing people. They they knew that he was
1:01:11
whacking people and he was stealing and he was doing all
1:01:14
these other things. They had to get enough on him to
1:01:18
to arrest him and put him away for a long time.
1:01:21
The same thing here. They've they've been
1:01:24
investigating this a long time. So does Jim Harbaugh know
1:01:27
anything about this? Was he involved in any kind of
1:01:30
way with this? And if it is true, does Jim lose
1:01:33
his job? If it's if it's done?
1:01:36
And I, I believe Michigan will protect Jim Harbaugh.
1:01:40
I believe it. They're going to protect him
1:01:42
because Jim Harbaugh is riding off into the sunset.
1:01:45
He won a national championship. It wasn't taken away from him.
1:01:48
And he did what he said he was going to do.
1:01:50
And he's back. He's back coaching in the NFL
1:01:53
trying to win a Super Bowl with Mr. Duckman.
1:01:55
So I, I just it to me, it's starting to get me thinking that
1:02:00
this has been going on a lot longer than people say this.
1:02:02
Yeah. And also we talked about like
1:02:03
the obviously the scandal of cheating being performance
1:02:06
enhancing more directly related to why they won a national
1:02:09
championship. But Java, you mentioned it to
1:02:10
like something like this is like a a personal, a human humanity
1:02:14
type scandal. Like this is directly direct
1:02:16
contact. And like Errol was saying like
1:02:19
Paige was there for I think since 2022 at the.
1:02:22
So this could have been going on for a very long.
1:02:24
Time. Long time.
1:02:25
About something you brought up on the phone to Errol is like
1:02:27
that. She coincidentally got a pay
1:02:28
raise after. This I got a story up so you can
1:02:30
go. Check.
1:02:31
You can check that out too and. Like she went for like 5055
1:02:35
thousand, like 9090 ground. 55% increase and it got 90 brand and
1:02:41
she was the only staffer that ended up getting that, which
1:02:42
makes it a very suspicious situation.
1:02:44
But again, it's a lot. It's a lot worse when there's
1:02:46
again assault charges on it. And here's another story.
1:02:49
His wife, Moore's wife, reached out and called 911.
1:02:53
Did she know about it? Was she involved with it?
1:02:56
Come on, think about it. She called 911.
1:02:59
Let's be honest. Let's look at it this way.
1:03:01
If if you know you're doing something wrong and you are like
1:03:06
you, you're covering a lie to cover a lot, there is no chance
1:03:10
she didn't know. Like she maybe she didn't know
1:03:14
to the full extent of it, but you damn well know she knew
1:03:20
something was going on. And that doesn't, that doesn't
1:03:25
make it right or, or make it wrong in any and, and like we're
1:03:29
not trying to like create a narrative or anything like, but
1:03:34
when something like this goes on, it's not like it just came
1:03:38
to fruition, right? It literally it's, it's had legs
1:03:42
because that's the reason like that.
1:03:44
We have the story, right? It's that's the reason.
1:03:48
And I always like relate it to, to the things that we know here
1:03:53
in Nebraska, like Tom Osborne covered up a lot of stuff And
1:03:59
what did the university do? They covered it up to save face
1:04:04
until it had to come. And there was there was only so
1:04:07
much you could do at that point, like and now how do you repair
1:04:10
that? How did how do you repair it?
1:04:12
You can't. This, this is unrepairable,
1:04:15
especially when it has to do with kids, underage kids that
1:04:18
are going to school and the coaches are taking advantage of
1:04:21
them. And, and, and again, it's all
1:04:23
about money with all the money that's being divided out now.
1:04:26
I've been I've been behind the NIL deals, I've been behind the
1:04:30
portal and how much money these kids should be making under, you
1:04:34
know, under the thought that these coaches are making a
1:04:36
ridiculous amount of money. And, and these guys, they these
1:04:40
coaches are recruiting them and bringing them to the school and
1:04:42
they're winning championships and they're big recruit
1:04:45
recruiting players that are going to play NFL football in
1:04:48
two or three years. That to me, makes a lot of sense
1:04:51
on why I believe that the NCAA has not really realized that
1:04:56
there has to be some kind of control of this money as much as
1:05:00
you think. Think about it this way, All
1:05:02
right? Lane Kiffin decided to go to
1:05:04
LSU, right? That's what he decided to do.
1:05:07
Why? Now, obviously, he got paid.
1:05:09
Now, Old Miss offered him the same money, but it was the
1:05:12
portal. He had been offered more portal
1:05:16
money and NIL money to bring in more players to come and play
1:05:21
for the school, more than Old Miss could afford.
1:05:24
So he looked at it and said, hey, yeah, I know everybody's
1:05:27
gonna go out. I'm gonna give a shout out to
1:05:28
Josh Silverbrook, who told me, well, he's an ass.
1:05:31
He's this he's that anybody that sees the facts on the line and
1:05:36
you what you put a check mark on every single thing that was
1:05:39
offered to Lane Kiffin. I'm jumping, I'm I'm moving, I'm
1:05:42
going to get I'm going to get in my car and I'm going to drive to
1:05:45
LSU and I'm going to say sayonara and Ole Miss.
1:05:47
So think about it. When you think about the money
1:05:50
that's getting divided out now and now you could do it legally
1:05:54
there there is no well, the FBI is going to get involved.
1:05:57
You can't brush it under the table.
1:05:59
You can't do what the Clippers did with Kawhi Leonard.
1:06:02
You got to do it. You can actually stay face and
1:06:05
and and get away with it. Well, if that's the case, the
1:06:09
NCAA has to look at these stories and wonder, do they
1:06:12
really have control of it now that you can pay a young lady
1:06:18
who's an assistant on the bench? Hey, you know what?
1:06:21
I'm not going to give you a 55% pay raise just because you get a
1:06:24
nice butt. You know, I, I just think about
1:06:28
it. To me, it's starting to get me
1:06:31
worried that the NCAA do not know how to control the coaches
1:06:35
do not know how to control the. But how?
1:06:38
How would you like? How would?
1:06:39
You, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.
1:06:42
I don't think there's any answer to it unless you're going to sit
1:06:45
in the committee and you're going to get the smartest people
1:06:49
in in in sports and let them sit around and say, well, this
1:06:52
works. But at the same time, you can
1:06:54
say that, but the most corrupt people in the world is our
1:06:56
government. Yeah, and no doubt.
1:06:58
And so you have all those people in power.
1:07:00
And when you get power and power is money, right?
1:07:06
And that's exactly what you're saying.
1:07:07
Yeah, it's scary. It is scary.
1:07:10
There I it just it. I don't, I don't know that that
1:07:16
they even know like even where to start like.
1:07:20
As as an. Athlete or as whatever or an
1:07:24
institution where they see, OK, these, you know, 1819 year old
1:07:29
kids and then obviously some are playing five, 6-7 years and
1:07:33
they're freaking have families and married and all the other
1:07:36
stuff. But how or where?
1:07:39
Where would you where would you start?
1:07:41
I'm going to throw you a curveball.
1:07:43
John Calipari, remember this and and fish you, you brought this
1:07:46
up. You did.
1:07:47
You had a John Calipari story. What was it?
1:07:50
I don't know if it was last show.
1:07:51
It was a last show and John Calipari was complaining that
1:07:55
the NIL and the portals that these players are making so and
1:07:59
so amount of money and all this other garbage that he is saying
1:08:02
when he was the king of bringing youngsters, 1817 year old kids
1:08:06
to play one year and go right into the to the NBA because of
1:08:10
money, right? Remember that?
1:08:11
You remember that fish? And now he was complaining about
1:08:15
Rick Pitino, who's bringing in guys that are 2728 years old,
1:08:19
over the age they're they're playing, they're been in college
1:08:22
for five or six years. And he says, my guys are playing
1:08:26
men. How is that fair?
1:08:28
And here's the answer to it, guys.
1:08:30
It isn't fair. There is no fairness when it
1:08:33
comes to money. Money talks.
1:08:36
It doesn't matter if the program has more money and they can
1:08:39
throw more money into the nil deals or the portals.
1:08:42
That's where they're going. That is the facts.
1:08:45
There is no changing it until somebody puts something in
1:08:49
writing. This is what you have.
1:08:52
This is what you can spend and this is what you cannot do
1:08:56
because if you do it, you're going to be suspended.
1:08:59
You're going to be taken out of a ball or you can't go into the
1:09:02
NCAA tournament, the March Madness or whatever the hell it
1:09:04
is. It's really bad right now.
1:09:06
And there is no answer, Jabba. That's the answer.
1:09:08
There is no answer. There's no if.
1:09:11
The only way you can figure something like this out is if
1:09:14
you put the right people in a on a round table.
1:09:18
And I'm not talking about Nick Saban or download Sweeney, who
1:09:21
bitches and moans about everything because they didn't
1:09:23
get what they wanted. And that's why Nick Saban's
1:09:26
hanging out at the beach, hopefully not doing what Bill
1:09:29
Belichick is doing, hanging out with a 24 year old and having
1:09:32
his woman tell him what to do over there in North Carolina.
1:09:34
Or, you know, do the right thing and, and, and figure out what is
1:09:38
the right thing to do to protect these young people, these young
1:09:43
adults when they go in front of a disgusting, you know, vicious,
1:09:49
disgusting man like like Sharon Moore.
1:09:53
He is. He is the epiphany of what you
1:09:56
would say you want to keep your kids away from.
1:09:59
You want to make sure that your kids are safe away from this
1:10:03
maniac because this man is not a good man.
1:10:07
He has never been a good man. He to me, he's probably been
1:10:11
whatever he was as a young man and he's doing it now to young
1:10:15
people, young people that have no protection, they can't
1:10:19
protect themselves and and unfortunately the NCAA needs to
1:10:23
step in and do something about this guy needs to go to jail
1:10:25
The. Woman might be over 30 is what
1:10:27
we're hearing the woman that's a staffer that's been around with
1:10:30
him, who cares in the program while and salaciously apparently
1:10:35
him and the wife, her and the wife are follow each other on
1:10:39
Instagram. Oh, how wonderful.
1:10:40
There's a lot more to this that might be coming out.
1:10:43
It might be more Bobby Petrino esque than Sandusky esque, which
1:10:48
would be a good thing. But obviously he's being
1:10:51
arrested for an assault. You know, welcome.
1:10:53
I mean, compared to Sandusky picture what Petrino did was
1:10:56
nothing, you know, but it's just terrible that we're talking
1:11:00
about this. The Michigan program was a
1:11:02
national champion just a couple of years ago and now look what's
1:11:05
happened to them. Like this is like as far as you
1:11:08
could fall as fast as possible from those type of heights.
1:11:11
It's pretty crazy that this has happened.
1:11:13
It's embarrassing, like I would just be embarrassed at this
1:11:16
point. NFL Network reports that the
1:11:18
Colts have signed 44 year old quarterback and future Hall of
1:11:23
Famer, yes Steve White, future Hall of Famer Philip Rivers to
1:11:29
their practice. You think he just wanted to get
1:11:31
out of the house 100% Is that what he wanted?
1:11:34
To do he was. Coaching high school, But after
1:11:37
losing starting quarterback Daniel Jones for the year with a
1:11:40
torn Achilles and backup rookie Riley Leonard, who should be on
1:11:44
a show spraining his PCL in the loss to Jacksonville.
1:11:48
With former first round pick Anthony Richardson still out
1:11:53
with an eye injury, who knows he suffered in a pregame warm up
1:11:58
early this season. The Colts had no one to step in
1:12:03
under center if Leonard couldn't tough it out.
1:12:07
He has practiced in full the last two days.
1:12:11
Just in case. The Colts added Philip Rivers to
1:12:14
the practice squad. Who listen to that?
1:12:17
Rivers, who hasn't played since the pandemic, which as well.
1:12:22
It's funny what he said at the news press conference when he.
1:12:25
His big press conference was awesome.
1:12:28
Yes, when he took the Colts to the playoffs in his final
1:12:31
season, told CBS JJ Watt that he runs a very similar offense
1:12:36
scheme offensive scheme as the Colts with his son's high school
1:12:42
team. Head coach Shane Steiken was
1:12:45
Rivers quarterback coach with the Chargers from 2016 to 2019
1:12:49
as he said how much he loved them.
1:12:51
Reports say that the Colts tried to sign Broncos practice squad
1:12:56
quarterback Sam Ellinger, but Allen Gurr turned it down.
1:13:02
Injured Riley Leonard, former practice squad Brett Rippin and
1:13:08
Phillip Rivers are the three quarterbacks who could start
1:13:12
this week for the Indianapolis Colts.
1:13:15
Rivers also pushes back his Hall of Fame clock by five years by
1:13:22
continuing his NFL career. The Colts are sitting at 8:00
1:13:26
and 5:00 and have one of the toughest schedules left in the
1:13:29
league, all against winning teams at the Seahawks, home
1:13:34
versus the 49ers, home versus the Jaguars and at the Texans.
1:13:40
To me, on a great defense, as I've seen since the since the
1:13:43
Baltimore Ravens of 2000, I'm not surprised.
1:13:49
And it's so, it's so funny and I, I wanted you guys to hear a
1:13:52
little bit. Not not surprised if you think
1:13:54
it would be him though. Yes, and I'm going to tell you
1:13:57
why we have an audio right speedy play video.
1:14:00
All right, play the video. I want people to see a little
1:14:02
bit of this video. A coach that I love and an
1:14:09
organization that I really enjoyed being with you know Mr.
1:14:13
Earth, say believing in me in that year in 2020 when it didn't
1:14:16
go so good in 2019 and shoot the the teammates that I was able
1:14:22
were able to play with shoot 14 of them still here training
1:14:26
rooms the same PR guys are the same cooking room's the same and
1:14:34
they wanted me and you know I tried to keep it as simple as
1:14:37
that and you know game game. I love to play a game that I
1:14:41
thought it was it was I was done playing certainly I wasn't
1:14:44
really hanging on to any hope of playing again.
1:14:46
I kind of, I kind of thought that ship had sailed, but
1:14:52
something about it exciting me. And it's kind of one of those
1:14:54
deals. The door opens and you can
1:14:56
either walk through it and find out if you can do it or, or run
1:15:00
from. And I, I know, I know that
1:15:03
there's, there's risk involved, obviously, of what may or may
1:15:07
may not happen, but the only way to find out is go for it.
1:15:10
And I just felt almost like it was a, a gift, another
1:15:13
opportunity to, to play and cut it loose with you guys.
1:15:16
And perhaps you've got to live, you're getting, you may get some
1:15:19
bonus time. So I really kept it as kept, as
1:15:22
simple as that. A gift.
1:15:23
He he used it as a gift, ladies and gentlemen, and maybe it is a
1:15:26
gift. Maybe it's a gift from God.
1:15:28
You could see that he put on some weight.
1:15:30
He's not in that that NFL body that he wants to be in.
1:15:36
You could definitely see that he has that fatherly body. 44 years
1:15:41
old. I still think first of all,
1:15:43
Philip Rivers is to me one of the most accurate quarterbacks
1:15:47
we've ever seen. So if you could still throw the
1:15:49
ball, he could still make those passes.
1:15:51
And I still think he is definitely credible to be better
1:15:55
than Riley Leonard is. Now what worries me about it is
1:15:59
he hasn't played an NFL football game for five years.
1:16:01
As a matter of fact, the last time he's played during the
1:16:03
pandemic. And he made a joke when he
1:16:05
stepped up and he spoke to the media, says thank God this isn't
1:16:08
a Zoom call. And and he made a joke because
1:16:11
during the pandemic, all he could do when he came to
1:16:14
speaking to the media is through a Zoom call.
1:16:16
And, and now he, he gets a chance to talk to the, in the
1:16:19
media. He talked about his family, he
1:16:20
talked about all the trials and tribulations and, and Jim Ursay
1:16:25
and how Jim Ursay gave him another chance and that he loved
1:16:27
it there. And that he, he, he loves this
1:16:29
organization. And he goes and he every single
1:16:32
week, week in and week out, he watches all the Chargers games
1:16:35
and all the Indianapolis Colts games, because those are the two
1:16:38
teams he played for and that he has a lot of love for him.
1:16:42
What makes me think that this man can do it is because of what
1:16:46
he was when he played on the football field.
1:16:49
The guy was cold when he went out there.
1:16:52
He would yell at you. He, I've heard it.
1:16:55
We've had guys on the show. He was a trickster.
1:16:57
He was a jokester. And when he stepped on a
1:16:59
football field, he didn't give a crap who you are.
1:17:02
He didn't care if you were Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.
1:17:04
If he wanted a mouth off to you, we wanted a mouth off to the
1:17:06
defenses. He would do that.
1:17:08
And you could see that he had that flair about him.
1:17:11
Philip Rivers always was look down upon and what I mean by
1:17:15
that is when he was drafted, he was practically traded for Eli
1:17:20
Manning because Eli Manning didn't want to play for San
1:17:23
Diego. No, he wasn't.
1:17:24
Practically, he was. Yeah.
1:17:26
So he was pretty much thrown, thrown away and and taken by the
1:17:30
San Diego Chargers. Now, you remember that's the
1:17:32
same San Diego Chargers team that had Drew Brees.
1:17:36
Drew Brees eventually went back. He went to New Orleans, won a
1:17:39
Super Bowl, became the Drew Brees superstar quarterback that
1:17:43
he he was when he came out of college, Second round draft pick
1:17:47
and Philip Rivers to me out of all three quarterbacks in that
1:17:50
class from Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger was not the most
1:17:53
successful but the most accurate.
1:17:56
And statistics would tell you he was the best one out of all
1:18:00
three of them. Now I don't.
1:18:02
Know told the best. Statistically was.
1:18:06
Statistically, he was. Statistically, Phillip Rivers is
1:18:09
better than all. But it was. 17 years that he
1:18:13
played, of course he was going to have more yards.
1:18:15
Actually, if you look at Phillip Rivers and and his career, I
1:18:19
think he played less than Ben Roethlisberger and he played
1:18:21
less than Eli Manning. So and he played more, but he
1:18:25
played more years. One more year than Eli.
1:18:28
One more. Yeah, it's it's not much and and
1:18:30
his numbers are much. Better still, that's a whole
1:18:33
year his his accumulating yard, the.
1:18:36
Fact. The fact here is he's statistics
1:18:39
would tell you he's better than both of those guys.
1:18:41
OK. Statistically saying that, OK.
1:18:43
And we've talked about. I never said he was better.
1:18:46
You. You.
1:18:46
You hear what I said? No.
1:18:48
You. Guys can agree and disagree on
1:18:50
this one. Does does championships fall in
1:18:53
that category? OK, so championships in the NFL,
1:18:56
and I, and I've said this many, many times and I've gone back
1:18:58
and forth with my arguments to this, it takes a team to win a
1:19:02
championship. If you go over to Patrick
1:19:04
Mahomes in those championships that he's won, go look at
1:19:06
Patrick Mahomes. His numbers in the Super Bowl,
1:19:08
they're not very good, OK? Even Tom Brady, his best Super
1:19:12
Bowl was against the Eagles, which he lost against.
1:19:15
He had over 500 yards and he didn't even win that Super Bowl
1:19:18
when he played Nick Foles. OK, so when you go back and you
1:19:22
talk about championships, it takes defenses, it takes special
1:19:24
teams, it takes an offensive line, it takes coaching.
1:19:27
So I'm going to go back to it. I'm not saying Phillip Rivers is
1:19:31
better than than any one of those quarterbacks.
1:19:32
I'm saying statistics would tell you when you look at the stats,
1:19:36
he is better than Eli Manning. He is better than Ben
1:19:39
Rothenberger. You can disagree or agree to it.
1:19:42
It doesn't really matter. The fact here is I don't think
1:19:46
Eli Manning can come back. I don't think Ben Rothlisberger
1:19:49
can come back. But I do believe Philip Rivers
1:19:52
can come back now. How good he's going to be what,
1:19:55
I don't know. But.
1:19:56
But how? How can you say that he's?
1:19:58
More accurate, He's more accurate.
1:20:00
Same. Caliber.
1:20:00
Same everything. He's more accurate than both of
1:20:02
them. He isn't accurate.
1:20:04
He has been known for his accuracy.
1:20:05
As a matter of fact, he's been. Known so is he literally going
1:20:08
to just run 5 yard outs and. I don't know what he's going to
1:20:11
do. I don't know what he can do.
1:20:12
I don't know what he can do. His his accuracy is one thing,
1:20:15
but Errol, you forget the problem that Philip Rivers
1:20:18
always had is he was a sidearm thrower.
1:20:21
He's a three quarter thrower. He has a weird arm slot.
1:20:24
He's Uncle Rico. Well, he's a much better than
1:20:28
Uncle Rico, but it's grandpa. He's got a grand grandson or a
1:20:32
granddaughter one year old. So this is I don't know how many
1:20:36
grandparents are playing quarterback 44.
1:20:38
Years. Old Come on, he's 44.
1:20:40
Tom Brady played at 45 and he's and because he's a grandpa,
1:20:44
because he had kids at a young age.
1:20:45
I think he had his first kid when he was 19.
1:20:47
Or you don't think having like a dozen kids in your house takes
1:20:50
years off your life in ages you like in different ways.
1:20:53
Nobody is. First of all, nobody is saying
1:20:55
that. What I'm saying is, and I don't
1:20:58
know how it's that I'm not adding.
1:21:00
Years to your life. I'm not saying it's going to
1:21:03
work or it's not going to work. All I do know is out of all
1:21:07
three of these quarterbacks coming out of retirement, he's
1:21:10
the one that I could say that would probably, if if any of it
1:21:14
it's going to work, it would be him.
1:21:17
It's just his personality. Ben Roethlisberger came out
1:21:20
after he heard that Philip Rivers was coming out of
1:21:22
retirement and said he even made a joke about it.
1:21:25
He says if if anybody that's going to do it, it's Phil.
1:21:28
He knows that he can't do it. And Eli laughed, he giggled at
1:21:31
it. He giggled at it because Eli
1:21:33
knows he can't do it. He had back problems.
1:21:35
Eli at the tail end of his career was not healthy enough.
1:21:38
Philip Rivers, when he walked away from the sport, it wasn't
1:21:41
because of injuries. It really wasn't.
1:21:44
He left because he felt that it was time for him to step away.
1:21:48
He had a family, he had kids. He wanted to coach his son in
1:21:52
high school. That's what he wanted to do.
1:21:54
So to say that I'm not saying it's going to work, Who knows?
1:21:58
I don't even know if he's ever going to even get a chance to
1:22:00
step on the football field. You can't.
1:22:02
Say that because if if you're stepping away from your family
1:22:05
and as as a family man of what we all know Philip Rivers and
1:22:09
not obviously knowing him personally, we know he's a
1:22:12
family man, right? There is no chance in hell that
1:22:15
he is leaving his family and going to the practice squad if
1:22:20
he ain't going to get on the field.
1:22:21
No, there's no, there's no chance.
1:22:23
And and we know that. Go ahead.
1:22:25
He's going to play guys. No, he's going to play.
1:22:27
If Riley Leonard can't go, he's coming in.
1:22:31
There's no doubt. Maybe not this week because they
1:22:34
haven't really done anything with him yet, but he's gonna
1:22:37
play because they have a chance to make the playoffs and they're
1:22:40
not putting in Brett Rippens hands.
1:22:42
Daniel Jones, who was supposed to get an extension at the end
1:22:44
of the year, is not getting an extension.
1:22:46
I'm just letting everybody know this.
1:22:48
That sucks. That sucks for him.
1:22:49
Yeah, when you when you when you tear in Achilles, you're never
1:22:53
the same quarterback. Anybody that knows anything
1:22:55
about the Achilles there. And Daniel Jones is what, he's
1:22:58
30 now. He there's no way.
1:23:01
There is no way now, unfortunately, the culture going
1:23:04
to give it to him. I think they're bringing Philip
1:23:06
Rivers in because Riley Lanner is the guy that they believe is
1:23:09
going to take over in the future.
1:23:10
You bring in Phil. Phil is a leader.
1:23:13
He understands how to be a coach on the sidelines.
1:23:16
He's been coaching high school kids.
1:23:18
They think that he can help Riley Leonard out at the last
1:23:21
four years and maybe eventually become a part of that coaching
1:23:25
staff. Maybe his plan, maybe the whole
1:23:28
point of Stiken is bringing him in to be the quarterback coach
1:23:31
for next year. For a guy like a Riley Leonard,
1:23:34
that's. A cool idea?
1:23:36
That's a really cool idea. Could.
1:23:37
Happen. It could happen.
1:23:38
You know, I don't know if they're.
1:23:40
He's on he's on something right there.
1:23:42
Like maybe he he saw that too in where it's like, OK, I can help
1:23:49
in this, in this context of doing.
1:23:51
But at the end of the day, he's 44 years old, He's done
1:23:55
everything that he could do. And he's like, yeah, I still get
1:23:59
the opportunity. But I Errol, I think you're 100%
1:24:02
right when, and I guess I never really thought about it like
1:24:06
this because we obviously know he's, you know, he's coaching
1:24:09
high school and doing all these other things, but maybe that's
1:24:12
kind of where he saw it too. And it's like, Hey, I'm, I'm
1:24:15
still young enough. Obviously I can, you know, get
1:24:18
in and, and strap it up and lace him up again.
1:24:20
But then it's like, hey, after this, instead of being in high
1:24:23
school, why the heck can I come do this and like and see kind of
1:24:28
the leadership that he does have and be a part of a franchise,
1:24:32
whether it's with the Colts or whether it's with somebody else.
1:24:35
But to see kind of how he helps in in transitions, those certain
1:24:40
things. Aaron Rodgers when he was with
1:24:42
Brett Favre, kind of same thing, right Where you I don't.
1:24:45
Think Aaron Rodgers would come back like this though?
1:24:47
No, he would do. Well, that's great.
1:24:49
You know why guys can't come back in football and This is why
1:24:52
I'd be really surprised if it works.
1:24:54
Maybe Philip Rivers is one of the few guys that can do it.
1:24:56
Brett Favre similar. It's can you still take a hit?
1:25:00
Are you going to hear footsteps after that first hit?
1:25:03
It's very different. I remember even Michael Vick
1:25:06
hearing footsteps at the end of his career because he didn't
1:25:09
want to take a hit anymore. And that was Michael Vick.
1:25:12
You know what I mean? That happens to everybody.
1:25:14
You just can't react as fast. You know it's going to hurt.
1:25:17
Miles Garrett is coming off the edge.
1:25:20
You know, like that guy's got a 16 pack.
1:25:23
He's going to destroy your life. You're going to be able to throw
1:25:26
this ball accurately from a three quarter arm slot at age 44
1:25:30
when that's coming from you. If you do, you have the best
1:25:33
guts of all time. Maybe you're a crazy person.
1:25:36
Brett Favre we know has Parkinson's, you know what I
1:25:39
mean? Like he took a lot of hits.
1:25:41
Not a smart move by him, but at the same time, you know,
1:25:45
warrior, you know, on the field. So there's like, you know, the,
1:25:48
the positives and the negatives of all that.
1:25:51
I I just, I'd be shocked because I just see it.
1:25:53
You see it all the time, like they're just not the same
1:25:56
because they're not going to be as aggressive in the pocket
1:25:59
because they're afraid to get hit.
1:26:00
But but Fish, this is the same guy that played in the playoffs
1:26:04
with the torn ACL. Four years ago and that the ACL
1:26:08
thing is just senior. I'm just saying I've never seen
1:26:11
a quarterback do that. And I remember, I agree with
1:26:14
you. I remember that your take on it.
1:26:15
Yeah, again, they were going to be stuck at the for the short
1:26:17
term at the quarterback position no matter what.
1:26:19
So I like your thinking of like trying to mentor Riley Leonard
1:26:21
because the Colts are not going to have a first round pick.
1:26:23
So like the the odds of them taking another quarterback and
1:26:26
if they let Daniel Jones go is going to be very slim as it is.
1:26:29
So at least for at least maybe a short term plan for the length
1:26:32
of his rookie contract, that would be where you want to go.
1:26:34
The Colts if they were throwing darts at trying to save their
1:26:36
playoff spot at quarterback anyway, it would have been to
1:26:38
something like that with Sam Allinger who was drafted by
1:26:42
them. But now it's psych and he just
1:26:44
knows the team a little bit or Brett Rippon, like one of these
1:26:46
other guys that are third string quarterback, practice squad
1:26:48
quarterback. So like, what's the harm in the
1:26:50
upside of playing? Try out Philip Rivers if he's
1:26:53
available and he's healthy. And again, he maybe you just get
1:26:55
a semi pseudo quarterback coach out of it for Riley Leonard if
1:26:59
it doesn't end up being the case, because Riley Leonard, it
1:27:01
seems like they he played well enough last week and I think to
1:27:03
play if he's healthy, he looks like you.
1:27:06
We've seen him go to a national championship.
1:27:08
We know Riley Leonard has the the personality to be a good
1:27:12
quarterback in the league if he gets the right tutelage and and
1:27:15
the coaching on the side. And I think Phillip Rivers makes
1:27:18
a lot of sense. And we, and we know from
1:27:19
interviewing him that Riley's a smart guy.
1:27:21
He's very, he's a very coachable player.
1:27:23
Like smart guy, but not a very nice.
1:27:26
Guy all right, I should say that smart guy on the football field
1:27:30
I'm. Just kidding.
1:27:31
He was mocking the professor. I know you were getting it with
1:27:33
that. Just kidding.
1:27:34
I, I, I, the fact is, is Riley's always been a nice guy.
1:27:37
We've been interviewing since the 8th grade.
1:27:39
I, I mean, we know what Riley is capable of and we know what the
1:27:43
personality that he is. So we expect him to be
1:27:46
successful in the NFL because everywhere he's gone, he's been
1:27:49
successful. So I I'm not I will never ever
1:27:53
bust on a kid that I know and I've known for a long, long time
1:27:56
and seen him develop as a great quarterback in college, high
1:28:00
school and now the NFL. So and Anthony Richardson, he's
1:28:04
done. I think they know he's done and
1:28:06
and they're. Now he he had an opportunity to
1:28:10
be great. Yeah, he's done, man.
1:28:11
He is absolutely done. And and again, as a as a fan of
1:28:15
Philip Rivers, because I am a fan of Philip Rivers the window
1:28:18
thrower himself, as Mike Francesa always called him.
1:28:20
He gave him the nickname I I could say this about Philip
1:28:24
Rivers. If there's anybody that can do
1:28:28
this, it's him. I just, there's something about
1:28:32
him and I think it's crazy. I like Fish says anybody that's
1:28:36
coming out of retirement hasn't been hit by a professional
1:28:39
athlete, 350 lbs coming at you like a bowl and is going to try
1:28:44
to run you over and try to take your head off.
1:28:47
I, I be, I'm going to say I'm going to be crapping my pants,
1:28:51
but Phillip Rivers has a set of balls, set of knockers on him.
1:28:55
And it obviously it does because you got a ton of kids, but.
1:28:58
But we, we always, we always think too as guys that have done
1:29:03
it before, like me just playing catch with Carter, right?
1:29:07
And, and Carter's like, you're going to hit me in the chest.
1:29:09
I'm like, dude, I'm still doing the same things that I did when,
1:29:13
you know, I was 20 years old. And we think we can do it.
1:29:18
It's a little bit different, it's a little bit different, but
1:29:22
we still always are going to think that.
1:29:24
And when you get to the pinnacle of, of what you do and
1:29:28
especially in sports and and as all of us being competitive,
1:29:31
right, like I don't like losing in anything.
1:29:34
I don't care if it's cards. I don't care if it's like but
1:29:36
then you getting the. Opportunity we know well, 100%.
1:29:41
You know, we've, we've had that conversation, but it's, I'm, I'm
1:29:45
excited for him as as a dad and as an athlete.
1:29:52
Like, I'm excited to see what he can do because he was a great
1:29:57
quarterback and you can't take that away from him.
1:30:00
And now to come back and to see what he can maybe do at 44.
1:30:06
Like, I'm, I'm excited about this.
1:30:09
I, I am. And he may suck, but at the same
1:30:14
time, we're still going to enjoy it.
1:30:17
Either. If he believes he can do it, I
1:30:20
I'm sure he's got. Something up his sleeve.
1:30:22
Thank you. I think he does all right,
1:30:25
ladies and gentlemen, our deuce of the day.
1:30:27
The deuce of the day you log not a log.
1:30:30
I don't have a log, but no. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
1:30:41
our deuce of the day goes to Cam Newton.
1:30:43
Yeah, Cam Newton has a lot to say about the Phillip Rivers
1:30:48
story as he came out and said, wait a second, Phillip Rivers is
1:30:52
coming out of retirement. Why did they come to me?
1:30:55
I'm Cam Newton. I still have it in me.
1:30:58
I'm younger, I've got the ability.
1:31:00
I'm this, I'm that. And of course Phillip Rivers
1:31:03
didn't say anything. He obviously, I'm sure he heard
1:31:07
Cam Newton all over, you know, the Stephen A Smith show and all
1:31:12
the other stupid crap shows that he's been on.
1:31:14
And Cam Newton has a problem. It's always about him.
1:31:17
It's me, me, me, me, me, me. Instead of letting it just go
1:31:21
and let I you didn't hear Ben Roethlisberger say you didn't
1:31:23
hear Eli Manning say it. You're the guys.
1:31:25
Tony Romo loves it. But the guy that didn't like it
1:31:29
is the one guy you don't want to hear from Mr. Ugly Hatter
1:31:32
himself. Cam Newton comes out and says,
1:31:36
wait a second, why didn't Indianapolis reach out to me?
1:31:39
I'll tell you why, Cam, Because we've seen enough of Cam Newton.
1:31:42
We saw you with the New England Patriots.
1:31:44
You sucked. But you came out and you talk
1:31:46
about Drake May and you took shots at Drake May on the
1:31:48
season. He's having OK everything.
1:31:50
You got a problem with everybody, Cam.
1:31:53
Why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
1:31:55
Why are you open your mouth? Philip Rivers didn't throw you
1:31:57
under the bus or all the garbage that comes out of your mouth.
1:31:59
Cam, you don't even know what you're talking about half the
1:32:01
time, but you, you speak like you know everything.
1:32:04
That's the problem. Unfortunately, Cam Newton is a
1:32:09
person that you just don't want to like.
1:32:12
And Philip Rivers every time he speaks and if he gives you the
1:32:16
energy you want to like him, you want to rude him on.
1:32:19
So the difference between both of them is he's a guy that you
1:32:22
want to hate and a guy that you want to love and who you going
1:32:25
to bring in the guy that you want to love.
1:32:29
So my thoughts to Cam Newton and his garbage and and bringing up
1:32:34
the the fact that they should have reached out to him or why
1:32:37
not him? Here's the reason why Cam you
1:32:39
couldn't throw the ball. You were an inaccurate
1:32:43
quarterback at best. You are a running quarterback.
1:32:47
You will full back at the quarterback position trampling
1:32:50
over people because you're 64 and £250.
1:32:54
That's what you were. You were never a throwing
1:32:56
quarterback. I don't care if you won a
1:32:57
national championship with Auburn.
1:32:59
I don't care if you went to a Super Bowl and won an MVP.
1:33:03
To me, you're one of the most overrated quarterbacks of this
1:33:06
era. So that's the reason why you
1:33:09
have a Hall of Fame quarterback in Phillip Rivers and a no
1:33:12
shame. All all talk Cam Newton and I
1:33:17
don't call him a quarterback. I call him a big mouth attitude
1:33:20
driven piece of you know what? So my juice of the day goes to
1:33:24
Cam Newton and I don't want to hear him.
1:33:27
I don't want to hear him anymore on any show and his complaining
1:33:30
about quarterback play and what he knows about the position
1:33:33
because guess what, you're not a quarterback anymore and all you
1:33:37
are is a media guy that doesn't shut the you know what up our
1:33:40
sports minute with the one and only fish.
1:33:45
This is the Jabba and the Mouth Sportsman ads.
1:33:50
All right, guys, welcome to the Sportsman and Aaron Fishman here
1:33:54
we got a couple of stories before we get into the scores
1:33:57
this evening. The Baseball Hall of Fame
1:33:59
announced on Wednesday that this year's recipient for the
1:34:02
prestigious Ford C Frick Award for Excellence in Broadcasting
1:34:06
will be Joe Buck. Buck will be the 50th Frick
1:34:09
Award winner and member of the Hall of Fame, joining his late
1:34:13
father Jack Buck in the Hall. He's the only father son duo
1:34:16
enshrined. Buck, who's 56 years old, is the
1:34:18
second youngest inductee ever, behind only Dodgers legend Vince
1:34:23
Scully, who was inducted at age 54 back in 1982.
1:34:27
I am shocked in many ways. I didn't think this was coming
1:34:29
right now, Buck said. I was saying to the group that
1:34:32
that called to tell me that my best memory of my father as a
1:34:34
Major League Baseball broadcaster was in 1987 in
1:34:37
Cooperstown in New York and what it meant to him, what it meant
1:34:40
to our family to see him get at the award, to see the joy and
1:34:43
pride that he had for what he had done.
1:34:46
Well congrat you Frickin lations to this year's Frick Award
1:34:50
winner Joe Buck. Well, Eagles fans and local
1:34:54
sports media certainly have got their panties up at a bunch
1:34:57
these days as the once immortal defending Super Bowl champions
1:35:01
have been taken on the chin left and right as of late.
1:35:04
Things got so bad on Monday Night Football for Jalen Hurts
1:35:07
in the 2022 to 19 OT loss. Head coach Nick Siriani was
1:35:11
forced to answer questions from WIP radio host Joe De Camara
1:35:15
about possibly benching Hurts after a 0 touchdown for
1:35:18
interception performance against the Chargers, bringing the
1:35:21
Eagles records in eight and 5 on the season.
1:35:24
I think that's ridiculous, Siriani said.
1:35:27
I know every time I go out on that field with Jalen Hurts as
1:35:29
our quarterback, we have a chance to win the game.
1:35:31
That's something that's been proven.
1:35:33
We've won a lot, a lot of football games and again, we
1:35:36
don't ever go into something and assign blame.
1:35:39
This is a team game. This is the most Ultimate Team
1:35:42
game. You win together as a team, you
1:35:44
lose together as a team. It's never just one thing.
1:35:47
I know every time I walk out on that field and Jalen Hurts as a
1:35:49
starting quarterback, I have so much confidence that we can win
1:35:52
every game and any game that we play in and that heat that we're
1:35:56
in. Syria is not wrong.
1:35:59
Despite some deficiencies Hurts might have, finding open
1:36:01
receivers against more complicated looks like those of
1:36:04
the defensive coordinator Jesse Minter.
1:36:06
Hopefully the next Giants head coach threw at him on Monday
1:36:08
Night Football, but this guy has only 6 interceptions on the year
1:36:12
after he just threw 4, so we only had two coming into the
1:36:14
game. He's going to finish with over
1:36:15
3000 yards passing, over 20 something touchdowns and
1:36:19
probably over 10 touchdown runs on the season.
1:36:22
He's fine, but then again, go ahead Philly, push him out of
1:36:25
town. I'm sure Kenny Pickett will be
1:36:26
available again this offseason. Guys, we are streaming live on
1:36:31
TikTok, Instagram and YouTube on our job on the mouth handle on
1:36:34
Facebook under the Worldwide Sports Radio network handle and
1:36:37
on Twitter under our host handle at Arrow Marks 34.
1:36:41
Keep downloading on Apple Podcasts and watch us both there
1:36:44
and on Spotify. Now in video.
1:36:46
Make sure you like and subscribe all our Shorts, Reels, Tik Toks
1:36:49
and longer videos you see from us throughout the week.
1:36:51
Now back to Errol Jabba and Speedy for our next segment on
1:36:54
Jabba and the Mouth. Any questions we're.
1:37:01
Back This is the Jabba and the Mouth show that went.
1:37:05
Over like a fart in church. A lot of hot ladies.
1:37:08
I farted, smell my ass. I need Brittany.
1:37:11
Also butt fuck. Yum Yum.
1:37:13
I am a legend. 631 672-3108 I love this track.
1:37:20
You know little Jai rule. Here we go.
1:37:23
What's love got to? Do.
1:37:26
Got to do, got to do. He ruined the whole song there.
1:37:31
I fished it. It's a little deep over there.
1:37:34
631-672-3108 is the number to call.
1:37:40
You're listening to Java and the mouth baby.
1:37:45
I'm the host, the one and only arrow marks my Co host Java
1:37:48
Chamberlain and speedy PD executive producer who's trying
1:37:53
to sing over there, who's a little out there in his voice of
1:37:57
reason, Mr. The Ja Rule voice. He doesn't say if he sings like
1:38:02
that. I wouldn't listen to him.
1:38:03
Tommy poops on the board as always.
1:38:06
At the back end, we have the N arm himself, Mr. PR man himself.
1:38:10
Mr. Nathan, how do you how do you pronounce his last name?
1:38:13
I always Ramakandra, Ramachandra Ramachandra.
1:38:18
Remember, you can go to our website at
1:38:19
www.worldwidesportsradio.com. Check out all our shows
1:38:23
throughout the week, including Jabba in the Mouth every single
1:38:26
Mondays and Wednesdays at 7:30 PM.
1:38:28
All you have to do to tune in and check out our local listings
1:38:30
for all our shows is go to our website at
1:38:33
www.worldwidesportsradio dot com.
1:38:38
All right, Niff, let's hear you. Come on in.
1:38:41
Where did he go? What's up guys?
1:38:44
This is how you pronounce it. Rama Chandra.
1:38:47
Oh, you were right. Yeah.
1:38:49
Well, actually, he said. Kandra, I made it more like a
1:38:52
SH. So we were both wrong.
1:38:54
It's Ramachandra Jabba, can you say it?
1:38:56
Speedy, can you say it? Ramachandra.
1:38:58
Ramachandra. Yeah, there you go.
1:38:59
Could you do it three times? It's like It's like Jimmy
1:39:02
Chandra by Ramachandra. Like Beetlejuice.
1:39:04
Beetlejuice. Ramachandra, Ramachandra
1:39:06
Ramachandra. So this is my new graphic.
1:39:09
Oh nice. We know you care a lot.
1:39:13
I love you. Say it.
1:39:18
Yeah. A lovely Sam.
1:39:20
I need a blow pop. Suck my indoor droba slack my
1:39:24
robot droba. You blow my back.
1:39:30
Awesome. Oh fish, you gotta send me the
1:39:31
cocktail. Look at.
1:39:32
Him. He's a Care Bear, Nathan.
1:39:34
Is a care bear ladies and. Gentlemen, you are a Care Bear,
1:39:37
Nathan a Camo Care Bear of the the blue Blazers Doo Doo.
1:39:43
Carl plays with himself. I'm putting you on a leash now.
1:39:48
Breaking news. I got to go back off now.
1:39:50
He waxed off all the time, ladies and gentlemen, very, very
1:39:53
much so. And and by the way, every time
1:39:56
I, every time I call Nathan, the first thing he says is butt
1:40:00
plug, butt plug, butt plug. And I'm like, why do you, why do
1:40:03
you do this all the time? Every time I call him he says
1:40:06
butt plug, butt plug. I could you imagine calling a
1:40:10
person you want to have a serious conversation with
1:40:13
somebody and the first thing you hear from it is.
1:40:16
Butt plug. That's what you hear.
1:40:18
That's what you hear every single time.
1:40:20
Every single time, ladies and gentlemen, it's it has.
1:40:24
A lot of hot ladies he. Loves the ladies or.
1:40:26
Breaking news I need Brittany also as.
1:40:29
We all know he's a little. He could just be practicing how
1:40:32
to enunciate certain letters. You never know.
1:40:34
That's true. As I want to hit it.
1:40:36
He wants to hit more. He wants speedies.
1:40:39
I want her melons there you. Go there you go anyways one.
1:40:44
Thing, Nathan, one thing I've always wanted to ask you, like
1:40:46
where is your, where's your family from?
1:40:49
India. India.
1:40:51
Do you want to jerk me off? Definitely.
1:40:56
That was a nice segue, but yeah, that's great.
1:41:03
We see it. Thumb up my ass.
1:41:08
Oh my God, when everybody, when we all get together, we're going
1:41:12
to the strip club. It's going to be a lot of these
1:41:17
like, yeah, Nathan, we'll meet you right inside.
1:41:19
We'll see you there. It's just around the corner.
1:41:21
All right. So we went, we went to the Super
1:41:23
Bowl and we were in, we were in New Orleans and we were, we were
1:41:28
walking through. What would we call that?
1:41:31
French Quarter. French.
1:41:31
Quarter and when you're in French Quarter, there's so many
1:41:36
strip bars. So me, Nick, it was Tommy Speedy
1:41:41
and and we were walking through the French quarters and these
1:41:44
people they come and they grab you they want to bring you into
1:41:47
the strip bars. So Tommy and and and so it's
1:41:51
Nick and, and, and obviously it's Nick and Fish and I'm in
1:41:56
between. And then there's Tommy and
1:41:58
Speedy. So Speedy, he was drinking, but
1:42:01
he wasn't drinking a lot. And then Tommy decides they pull
1:42:04
us in and say, oh, $5, you can come in for $5.00.
1:42:07
So Tommy just walks right in, OK?
1:42:10
He just walks, don't mind if I do.
1:42:12
Don't mind if I do 5 bucks, 5 bucks and then speedy Speedy,
1:42:17
just they grab speedy. These girls bring them in.
1:42:20
OK, so I go to Nick and I go to, I go to fish and I'm like, you
1:42:25
guys going to come in? I can't leave these two.
1:42:28
I leave these two guys. This guy I I I have.
1:42:31
This we went and got chicken fingers.
1:42:33
They went to get chicken fingers, so I'd always.
1:42:35
Cock. Wasn't that what it was called
1:42:36
Willie's Cocks? I don't know what, I don't know
1:42:38
what it was called, but I. Don't know what you're talking
1:42:41
about. But.
1:42:41
Wasn't that what it was called? The chicken place?
1:42:43
Like the daiquiris, Like Willie's cock, you know?
1:42:46
What I never mind Willie's order, but anyways, so so he
1:42:50
goes in. So Speedy goes to the bar and
1:42:52
it's a funny story. And by the way, we are going to
1:42:54
have Charlie slows join us. He will be joining us.
1:42:57
He's at the he's right now at dinner, but he's coming so, so
1:43:01
he goes in. So Tommy walks right in and he
1:43:04
just walks right in and he these girls come up and they're trying
1:43:07
to they're trying to grab me and I'm trying to look I tell so I
1:43:10
know how to do it. You don't look at their faces
1:43:13
because if they look at you and they see that you're staring at
1:43:14
them, they're coming right to you.
1:43:16
So I'm looking down at Speedy's at the bar and and there's a
1:43:20
bartender and there's a girl like rubbing against Speedy's
1:43:23
leg, like rubbing against Speedy's leg, wrapping her legs
1:43:27
around Speedy and Speedy's. Standing.
1:43:29
If they just sweat, let's. Go.
1:43:31
So Speedy's standing. There.
1:43:32
So Speedy's standing there and the the bartender says, what do
1:43:36
you want to get? So Speedy orders a drink.
1:43:38
And then what happens is he's buying them drinks too, because
1:43:42
they're not telling them. So he buys the bartender a
1:43:44
drink, and he buys her a drink automatically.
1:43:47
He spends like $50. 5030. Whatever it was, Speedy, how do
1:43:52
you remember? You better shut up, because you.
1:43:54
$30.00 in a pint of a little chicken.
1:43:57
First of all. You.
1:43:59
The fact that you even said that, you know Speedy is going
1:44:01
to remember exactly what. Yeah, well, he shouldn't be.
1:44:04
He shouldn't be saying anything because he's a chicken.
1:44:08
OK, so we're standing there. Tommy goes on his way, but he
1:44:11
realizes that going upstairs, it's going to cost $1500.
1:44:16
And as soon as Tommy hears $1500, he jets out of there.
1:44:20
OK. And Speedy, this girl's rubbing
1:44:22
on Speedy's leg and I'm grabbing and he's.
1:44:24
So she tells me, oh, your friend wants to go upstairs?
1:44:27
And I said no, he doesn't. And he says, and he's looking at
1:44:31
me. And Speedy gives me his little
1:44:32
poor little eyes, help me, help me.
1:44:35
And I'm sitting here. He remembers the freaking thing.
1:44:37
Why don't you remember this? So I'm looking at him and she
1:44:40
grabs him. I grab him by his shirt and.
1:44:42
That is Bourbon Street. And I grab him by his arm and
1:44:45
I'm pulling him and I pull her, pull it, pull him over to me.
1:44:49
And I go to the girl and I say he doesn't want to go upstairs
1:44:51
and he's not going upstairs. We're getting out of here.
1:44:54
And she says, no, no, no, you'll go upstairs. 1500.
1:44:57
I was like, yeah, you can take your 1500 and shove it up your
1:44:59
ass. That's what I said to her.
1:45:01
And I grabbed him. I walked outside and say, serves
1:45:03
you right. And I looked at him.
1:45:05
I said you shouldn't have went inside.
1:45:07
He went inside and his own his own thoughts and own reason when
1:45:12
I told him not to do it. And Speedy, he's scarred from
1:45:15
it. He thinks that all strip bars
1:45:17
are like that. They're all going to pull you in
1:45:19
and drain you and stuff like that, which is not true.
1:45:22
It was just Bourbon Street. And I told him, I said it serves
1:45:25
you right now. Next time when I tell you no, no
1:45:28
is no. So he just he learned his lesson
1:45:31
very quickly. And then Tommy, as soon as he
1:45:34
earned $1500, this guy jets out of here because he thought he
1:45:37
was going to get, he was going to get a lap dance for free.
1:45:40
This guy. Tommy thought he had a Groupon
1:45:44
and it didn't. It didn't work.
1:45:45
Yeah, it. Was a Groupon all right?
1:45:47
Speedy. Speedy learned the lesson pretty
1:45:49
quickly, didn't he? Didn't Just Speedy.
1:45:51
Speedy came into the chicken place that me and Goody were
1:45:54
sitting then. Like white as it goes.
1:45:56
Almost. Like almost.
1:45:58
It was he was like completely shook because he he didn't got
1:46:02
out of there. Errol I think saved his life
1:46:05
that night and we speedy might have lost like had organs
1:46:08
harvested dude that night. Jabba if he got caught they were
1:46:12
bringing him upstairs and he would have spent $1500 because
1:46:15
they were they were going to drain his ass and I to.
1:46:18
Start for $1500 just to get started.
1:46:22
Yeah, so I would. I saved his ass.
1:46:25
I saved his ass. And I told him, I said it serves
1:46:28
you right. When next time when I tell you
1:46:29
not to go in, it means not to go in because they tried to pull me
1:46:33
in and I was like, no, I'm not going in there.
1:46:35
I know what I I know if I walk through that door, it's trouble.
1:46:39
And I did it. And I watched this guy over here
1:46:41
because he walked in no problem. Walked right in.
1:46:44
Tommy walked right in, like no problem, $5.
1:46:47
Yeah, sure, I'll do that. Yeah.
1:46:48
He goes in there and as soon as the girl's rubbing and I was
1:46:51
like, Tommy, don't wander off, they're going to get you.
1:46:54
And he's like, yeah, I got it. I got it.
1:46:56
As soon as they told him 1500, he jetted out there as quick as
1:46:59
possible And they dude, there were like 7-8 girls coming up to
1:47:03
me trying to get me to, to to do whatever they wanted me get away
1:47:07
from me. I told him.
1:47:08
I was like, I know, I know your spiel.
1:47:10
I know how you are. So I was like, and Speedy was,
1:47:14
he was getting and Speedy was getting in.
1:47:16
Yeah, this girl. This girl.
1:47:17
Was pretty hot. This girl was pretty hot she was
1:47:22
rubbing all hottest girl in there speedy hat she was the
1:47:25
hottest girl in there by far and and she was like rubbing on him
1:47:30
and all these others other. Nice.
1:47:32
Speedy was getting. I'm just glad that we survived
1:47:35
the ordeal. Just it was it was a little
1:47:38
touch and go there for a little while that night because that
1:47:42
was the same night, Errol, that that was that reporter who was
1:47:45
murdered and like and chopped up or something, right?
1:47:49
The serial killer or something. That was like it was a sports
1:47:52
guy down there for like Telemundo or something like
1:47:55
that. And that was that night.
1:47:59
It was that night. I feel like though, you know,
1:48:01
we're kind of glossing over the fact, Nathan.
1:48:04
Like, I feel like if you would have walked into this, it would
1:48:08
have been like the Cheers bar, like everybody.
1:48:11
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:48:13
No, no, no, no. This is what no, but they're
1:48:15
like, we would just put all on Nathan's credit card at that.
1:48:18
And Nathan? Would have pulled out his
1:48:20
father's credit card and he would have like.
1:48:22
Everybody. Knows my own credit card.
1:48:24
My own credit card. All right, Dad, I have my own.
1:48:26
Credit card, Do you have a black card for those type of things?
1:48:29
I have I have a mileage plus plus card, whatever you call
1:48:32
that. Plus plus, yeah.
1:48:35
Daddy, Daddy was. I'm not pulling my, I'm not
1:48:39
pulling my black card out for any of you.
1:48:41
Guys, I had to explain to my wife, just because the card is
1:48:46
black does not mean it's a black card.
1:48:48
Never heard of the skin and it's it's something that we had to
1:48:51
work. Through I think I left early,
1:48:53
right back to the hotel after the rush I had.
1:48:55
To take a shit. Yeah, you did leave early that
1:48:58
night. You did leave.
1:48:59
I remember you said that was lucky for you, too, because
1:49:01
again, there was a mass murderer out there.
1:49:03
Yeah. Smell my ass.
1:49:04
If there's anybody that's going to go into a mask, murderers, a
1:49:07
hotel room, it's it's Nathan. Absolutely Nathan.
1:49:10
Mr. Care Bear himself. Oh yeah.
1:49:13
Nathan would try to talk him down and be like, hey, you know,
1:49:15
we're OK. Like we we can figure this.
1:49:18
Out Nathan would come to us like hey, that's my guy.
1:49:21
You know that he's a good. He's a good friend of mine.
1:49:25
Yeah, yeah, I know him. Yeah, I, I met him last night.
1:49:28
Yeah, he was at that party I was at.
1:49:29
Yeah, that, that's him. Yeah.
1:49:31
Yeah, Bundy, But Ted Bundy's awesome guys, my guy, man, I'll
1:49:35
come up with. You, I I held hands.
1:49:37
I held hands when he was in the electric chair.
1:49:39
Yeah, I. Am.
1:49:39
Oh my God. Oh, Charlie Starkweather.
1:49:42
Yeah, we're good. We're.
1:49:46
Good. John Wayne Gacy.
1:49:47
Yeah, him and me were buddies. I.
1:49:52
I will tell you. I will tell you something.
1:49:54
My dad was in the prison for 30 years.
1:49:55
Oh. My God and.
1:49:56
He did. He did walk.
1:49:58
He walked a man to the electric chair.
1:50:00
Oh. I'm sure.
1:50:02
Well, my dad, my dad rolled. He walked.
1:50:08
Your father was one unique individual man he.
1:50:11
Really, he was he is the best. It's, it's so funny and I miss
1:50:16
Dad every day and like it, but it's crazy.
1:50:20
I, I've seen the electric electric chair more times than I
1:50:23
can count because I used to park my dad's scooter because when
1:50:29
dad could walk before, you know, he became to the scooter all the
1:50:32
time that I would park it in. It was, it was the storage room,
1:50:37
but it was the viewing room for the electric chair.
1:50:40
So sometimes the curtains would be open and I would see it all
1:50:43
the time. And then it's like, it's exactly
1:50:46
what you think it would be. It's exactly what you think it
1:50:49
would be. And it was, it was crazy.
1:50:51
And I was a sophomore in high school and he was with Walking
1:50:55
Willy Otay for I think 17 years. And his one last request was
1:51:01
like, other than his food and all the other stuff was that my
1:51:04
dad. And my dad was like, I'll take
1:51:07
you in there, but I can't see it.
1:51:09
Oh my. God, and I was Dad was one of
1:51:12
the games my dad missed. I was a sophomore in high
1:51:14
school. We were playing East High
1:51:15
School. Never forget it.
1:51:17
And that's one. One game my dad missed was to be
1:51:20
there for Willie. I would never put anything next
1:51:24
to an electric chair when I know people were killed.
1:51:28
I mean, it was, but that was just like normal for me because
1:51:31
that's just what I did like for Dad, like I, I didn't think it
1:51:35
was any different. Like, you know, and it's, it's,
1:51:38
it's nuts. But yeah, Dad, Dad did it.
1:51:41
Well, Speaking of tears, we've got Save Your Tears.
1:51:47
Mom, what's 1? Thing.
1:51:49
That you can't talk to me about. My sexual fantasies.
1:51:54
Say your sorry this. Is not ideal, but if it's what
1:51:57
means it is not ideal. But if it's just not ideal.
1:51:59
But if it is, what mean? You can't trouble stamp a double
1:52:02
stamp. You can't.
1:52:03
Trouble stamp a double stamp. You can't trouble stamp double
1:52:05
stamp. You guys, now it's time for save
1:52:11
your tear. All right, guys, welcome back to
1:52:16
Save Your Tears, everyone's favorite fantasy game where we
1:52:20
pick different categories of players with a $15 salary cap.
1:52:24
We're going to be doing week 15 right now, the standings of of
1:52:28
Save Your Tears heading into Week 15 of the season.
1:52:30
In first place, we have Speedy PD with 31 points.
1:52:33
We have Jabba Chamberlain. Oh wait, sorry, not yet, Jabba.
1:52:37
We have Nathan with 25 points in second, Tommy with 20 in 3rd,
1:52:41
Errol with 18 and forth. Jabba, you won last week.
1:52:44
We owe Jabba some compliments, guys, before we get started.
1:52:46
He's in fifth with 12. I have 10 and 6th.
1:52:50
Jarrett, who could not be here because he's doing some
1:52:52
wrestling stuff tonight, is in 7th with 9 and Goody has played
1:52:58
a couple of times. He's got a point guys.
1:53:00
Here we go. Well, before we get started,
1:53:02
let's bring this down. Let's give Mr. Chamberlain his
1:53:07
do real quick. Jabba, I'll start off.
1:53:09
I don't remember what the order was, but I got to tell you it
1:53:13
was an incredible job by you last week making those wins jump
1:53:17
in the standings. You jump 2 spots in the
1:53:19
standings that this time of the year it's, you know, it's
1:53:23
playoff chase time and I don't really know exactly what you're
1:53:26
going to win by getting into the playoffs, but it's about the
1:53:29
competition, it's about the process.
1:53:31
And everybody who's been a fan of you, myself included, notice
1:53:35
that that's what you're all about.
1:53:36
Way to continue being you, man. We love you.
1:53:38
Congratulations. All right, let's move it on.
1:53:42
Keep it moving, Speedy Petey all.
1:53:44
Right it is a fitting for you to win in a week Java on the same
1:53:48
on the same week that due to unfortunate circumstances that
1:53:50
if Pokey was named the new Michigan head coach, Nebraska is
1:53:54
is alum. But you beat me out barely.
1:53:57
We're looking at the looking at the grid.
1:53:59
I had to trust LSU's guy, not Nebraska's guy Brian Thomas and
1:54:03
you trusted Michael Pittman, who was not an LSU guy.
1:54:06
That's for you Goody to be able to win this week, but very good
1:54:10
you beat my analytic knowledge this time around and have fun
1:54:13
picking in the order who gets to go first.
1:54:19
All right, so I'm going to go next to Jabba.
1:54:22
I got to say I don't remember the team that you picked.
1:54:24
I don't remember whatsoever where I finished or how how many
1:54:28
points you scored, but it was good enough to be reigning
1:54:31
champion over all of us. Man, You know, I love this say
1:54:34
my savior Tears is personally one of my favorites.
1:54:37
And whenever we get to, you know, whenever we get to
1:54:40
actually coincide together and defeat Errol and get #1 hey,
1:54:45
it's always a win. Nobody puts in the pain with
1:54:47
Omaha NE. Hey over there, nobody puts in
1:54:51
the pain with Omaha NE like you. So hey, Congrats Mr. Jabba
1:54:57
Chamberlain. All right, Nathan.
1:54:59
Yeah, Java. Congrats.
1:55:01
Do I need do I need to fall asleep for this one?
1:55:04
Java Hey, I'm giving Jabba, you're a champion on the field
1:55:09
off the field, even the champion year.
1:55:11
Congrats, you deserve it. I don't know.
1:55:15
I don't even know what you picked, but well, well deserved.
1:55:18
And it's it's been great working with you Jabba like my shrimp
1:55:23
kacha and I watch you grow. I watch you pitch when I was a
1:55:26
fan, but now working with you guys, it's not an athlete.
1:55:30
Great job, Jabba. I'm glad that I'm here with this
1:55:33
with you guys. All right.
1:55:37
And last but not least, Mr. Errol.
1:55:38
Marx All right, Jabba. 51% positive, Errol.
1:55:48
You know, there, there. There's a lot of luck in this.
1:55:53
I'm just kidding, all right? Oh, wow.
1:55:55
My Kevin just got slammed on his back.
1:55:57
Oh, that hurts. Anyways, Jabba, you know,
1:56:02
congratulations. Very well deserved.
1:56:05
You know it's not every day you win.
1:56:07
So you got to win one way or another.
1:56:09
You got to pull off a win one way or another.
1:56:11
And why not pull up a win in a in a week where, you know, I
1:56:14
lost Daniel Jones. Congratulations.
1:56:16
Very well, very wellly picked well picked on your on your your
1:56:24
roster and congratulations. All right, that was some old
1:56:28
news. Let's get to the new news.
1:56:30
Here's the board the games that we're picking from for week 15
1:56:34
giants, commanders, Ravens, Bengals and lions Rams.
1:56:39
So if you're listening at home, I'm going to read off the board
1:56:41
for you. But we are available on in video
1:56:44
both on apple and Spotify. If you guys haven't seen us
1:56:46
there in video, check us out as well as well as every time you
1:56:49
see us all throughout the social medias and on YouTube.
1:56:52
Give us subscribe and share. All right, $5 quarterback.
1:56:56
We got Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow for four, Jared Goff at
1:57:00
3, Jackson Darts coming back for two.
1:57:03
And here's an interesting buy. Lamar Jackson for $1.00.
1:57:09
It's been a tough season for Lamar at running back, $5
1:57:12
running back Jameer Gibbs probably going to be the
1:57:14
offensive player of the year the way things are going right now.
1:57:17
Him or JSN, probably Derek Henry at $4.00, Karen Williams for
1:57:21
three, never know with him in that at a timeshare with Blake
1:57:25
Corum. Tyrone Tracy is a $2.00.
1:57:28
And I just wrote Bill for a dollar.
1:57:31
Yes, that's Bill Jacori, Kroski Merritt from the Commanders at
1:57:36
wide receiver one, and again, you got to pick it from this
1:57:38
column. Wide receiver one is Puka Nakua,
1:57:40
the $5 player, followed by Aman Rossain.
1:57:42
Brown. Pretty loaded at receiver this
1:57:43
week, guys. T Higgins for three, Zay Flowers
1:57:46
for two and a pretty good season from Wandale Robinson could be
1:57:49
gotten for a dollar in that column at wide receiver 2.
1:57:53
Jim Marr Chase leads the $5 column there, followed by
1:57:56
Devante Adams. Scary.
1:57:58
Terry Mclaurin for $3. He's never killed the Giants
1:58:01
before. Jameson Williams only for two,
1:58:04
and guy who has maybe no hands. Darius Sladen for a dollar at
1:58:11
tight end. Little Slim Piggins this week at
1:58:13
tight end. Mark Andrews for five.
1:58:16
Theo Johnson for 4M, Kasicki for three, Colby Parkinson for two
1:58:20
and rounding it out, John Bates for a Dolar Jabba.
1:58:26
You decide the order. Who's going first?
1:58:28
Oops. All right, Tommy, what we got
1:58:30
all? Right.
1:58:31
I'm going to go with Joe Burrow. Give me Jameer Gibbs.
1:58:38
Oh, I know. You know yet Jameer Gibbs,
1:58:41
Higgins, Jameson Williams, and then I should have a dollar.
1:58:44
So we're going John Bates. All right, Giants usually suck
1:58:48
at guarding tight ends. Probably a smart move.
1:58:50
I got Burrow, Gibbs, Higgins, Jameson and Bates.
1:58:54
Who's next? Jabba.
1:58:55
Nif. The NIF.
1:58:57
Let's go. All right.
1:58:59
I got. I got Jared Goff.
1:59:02
I got my guy. Tyrone Tracy Junior, I got.
1:59:08
I'm on Saint Brown. No, sorry.
1:59:11
T Higgins I got Terry Devante Adams.
1:59:20
Then I'm going to go, you know I'm.
1:59:23
Going to help him out with the math.
1:59:25
Is it? Saint Brown, you took Burrow.
1:59:30
That's. No, he's got Devante at, so he's
1:59:32
got Adams for four, Higgins for three at 7, Tracy 2.
1:59:35
That's nine. Goff, you have $3.00 left,
1:59:38
Nathan. Good.
1:59:39
I'm going to go Mike Gazecki. All right, Kiseki, so I got you
1:59:43
Nathan at Cough, Tracy Higgins, Adams and Giseki Jabba, where
1:59:51
are we going? You're up next.
1:59:54
Oh man. All right, let's do it.
1:59:56
I am going to go with Jackson Dart, Giants future legend for 2
2:00:03
bucks. I'm going to spend a bunch of
2:00:06
money on Gibbs for five. I am going to spend not a lot of
2:00:11
money on wand. Dale.
2:00:13
Robinson for a dollar, by the way, has better numbers than
2:00:20
Justin Jefferson this year. Errol, everyone was taking him
2:00:22
like first receiver this year. Nope.
2:00:23
That's because I know. But you got to remember that
2:00:27
that who's throwing right then we got.
2:00:29
So how much do I have? I got that's 8.
2:00:32
So I got plenty of money left. I got 7 bucks for these last
2:00:35
two. Yeah, give me scary Terry.
2:00:37
The Giants have never stopped him in the history of his
2:00:41
career. And that gives me 4 bucks for
2:00:45
the only guy. The only two targets are Wandale
2:00:49
and Theo. I'm going to take Theo Johnson.
2:00:51
We'll pause it for you, Jabba, who's up next?
2:00:54
Speedy. Speedy.
2:00:55
So I'm going to. Go for the first time I think
2:00:58
ever that I've done save your tears.
2:01:00
I'm actually going to take 2 fives, 2 twos and A1.
2:01:04
What about? Skidmark.
2:01:05
So give me Lamar, give me Gibbs, give me Puka and the two twos,
2:01:10
Jameson, Williams and Parkinson. Hookah so excited Jameson and
2:01:19
Parkinson who's? Lamar playing this week.
2:01:23
Bengals. Bengals.
2:01:25
I'm I'm floating it out there. He just hasn't had a good week
2:01:29
in a long time. But it's there sitting for you,
2:01:33
Jabba. You were Errol, Errol all.
2:01:36
Right, right. I'm going to go Lamar.
2:01:37
I'm definitely going to go with him.
2:01:39
Who are the Rams playing this week?
2:01:41
Lions. The Lions OK, I'm going to go.
2:01:49
I'm going to go definitely Puka. I'm definitely going with him.
2:01:53
I'm going to go. Jamar Chase.
2:01:58
So what do we have right there? You got 4 bucks left?
2:02:02
4 left with one running back and one tight end.
2:02:07
All right, I'll change. I'll change Jamar Chase.
2:02:09
I'll go divide No, because I can't You go to other safety
2:02:12
right they. Wouldn't make sense.
2:02:14
You guys take a running back or a tight end.
2:02:16
You got 4 bucks. Because I'm trying to think of
2:02:19
the numbers, I definitely want to go puka who the the the lines
2:02:25
are playing over. Here, Rams.
2:02:27
All right, I'm going to go. I'm going to go St.
2:02:30
Brown and then I'm going to go Jamar Chase and then I'm going
2:02:33
to go. I'm going to go Derek Henry.
2:02:36
How many? How many do I?
2:02:37
Got one left. Then I got one left.
2:02:38
I'll go with Bates on the bottom.
2:02:42
All right, so we got Henry and Bates.
2:02:46
All right, so I got you Lamar, Henry St.
2:02:48
Brown, Chase and Bates. Java.
2:02:50
You're up. I'm.
2:02:51
Going to go Burrow, Derek, Henry, Wandell, Kyle.
2:02:59
Pitts is doing. Great.
2:03:01
That puts me at 9:00 and then I'm going to go.
2:03:08
I'm going to go Jameson Williams and then Theo Johnson.
2:03:14
All right, and I got you for Borough, Henry, Wandale, Jameson
2:03:19
and Theo. Let me share the screen.
2:03:22
We'll just take a quick look at the full board.
2:03:25
For those of you who are falling at home, bring this down.
2:03:30
Bring this up, as you see, we got a couple of Mars, couple of
2:03:34
Burrows there, got three guys with Gibbs, couple of Wandales,
2:03:39
a lot of Higgins action here. Jameson Williams very popular
2:03:43
this week and all over the place at tight end, guys.
2:03:47
Again, the winner gets those compliments on Errol, I believe.
2:03:52
Next episodes next week, guys. That's save your tears.
2:03:57
If you don't like the results, you can't cry about it.
2:03:59
You got to save your tears. Somebody's got to save their
2:04:01
tears. We're waiting for Charlie Slows.
2:04:03
He will be joining us. He'll be joining us a little bit
2:04:06
later. I would say probably in the next
2:04:08
10 to 15 minutes. We're going to talk a little
2:04:10
baseball with him because I he's got his own take on the Mets and
2:04:14
everything that's going on at the baseball.
2:04:16
What was going on at the baseball meetings.
2:04:17
He's got some inside stuff. So I'm sure Charlie has some
2:04:23
information. All right, Why don't we go
2:04:26
Fish's Play of the Week this is. What's great about sports?
2:04:32
You play. To win the game.
2:04:34
Hello. You.
2:04:35
Play to win the game. Fish's Play of the Wing win.
2:04:40
Another TOE job. All right, guys.
2:04:43
Welcome back to Fish's Play of the Week guys.
2:04:48
I usually give you a really cool play, something that's a little
2:04:52
innovative, X's and O's, Y's. I'm not always just trying to
2:04:55
take the big catch here. That's not really what I'm
2:04:58
about. I like to see things schemed up.
2:05:00
I coach football and this week I'm going to be giving you guys
2:05:04
a play. That's something that I see a
2:05:06
lot while I'm coaching and it's something that's been around the
2:05:09
game for a very long time. Let's start it off right here
2:05:13
with the 65 yard touchdown by Tony Pollard this past week.
2:05:18
Some reason we're glitching. Let me bring it off and bring it
2:05:20
back on. I don't.
2:05:21
Care if it's just not. Working for me tonight for some
2:05:23
reason, but here we go. Tony Pollard, we get a block
2:05:27
downfield from Van Jefferson. That's what most people saw on
2:05:31
this play, but I don't know why is why people only look at the
2:05:36
end and the celebration. Why don't you care about what's
2:05:39
happening that made that guy score?
2:05:41
Well, that's what we're going to do here on fishes Play of the
2:05:44
week. Take a look at the formation.
2:05:46
This is a 4/4 defense, 1 high safety.
2:05:49
This is going to be cover one, cover 3.
2:05:51
This is what you see at high school football.
2:05:52
JV football is what the Browns are playing.
2:05:55
So the Browns have a guy at the top of the screen named Miles
2:05:57
Garrett who kind of cleans up everything else.
2:06:00
So they're probably playing a little bit differently.
2:06:02
Looks like you have a two eye technique on this side of the
2:06:04
ball. That's going to be the fatal
2:06:06
mistake on this play because now the guard and center are
2:06:09
uncovered to the front side. Watch both of them pull to the
2:06:13
right on what I would call the Vince Lombardi sweep.
2:06:17
Adjusted for today, pull the uncovered lineman or both
2:06:20
guards. Sometimes we call it a buck
2:06:23
sweep. Usually a buck sweep.
2:06:24
It's to a wing back. We have the wing over here, but
2:06:27
if you notice, we got tight end wing on one side, We got split
2:06:30
end wing on that side and there's a tailback behind arrow
2:06:33
on the screen that's Tony Pollard.
2:06:35
That's called a wing T Guys, this is wing T football in the
2:06:39
NFL in 2025. Watch the play a little bit and
2:06:43
the reason why this play works, the Titans may suck and we know
2:06:48
that they suck, but they got a couple of really good young
2:06:51
tight ends. Take a look at the tight end on
2:06:53
the ball and the tight end off the ball who's going to block
2:06:56
Miles Garrett one-on-one on this play as the play starts.
2:07:00
It's a typical wing T blocking scheme.
2:07:02
Blocked down. If you're uncovered, go up to
2:07:05
linebacker, you'll see the two tackles are the tight end on the
2:07:08
front side, number 84, that's Gunnar Helm.
2:07:10
Their young tight end and their left tackle go up to the second
2:07:14
level. Tony Pollard is going to take it
2:07:16
really flat because I mean, Miles Garrett's there.
2:07:18
So they're going to take it really flat to the outside.
2:07:20
Those two pulling lineman pick up the two guys right there.
2:07:24
That's exactly what you want. But there should be a safety
2:07:26
coming over to help. Unfortunately for them, Gunner
2:07:29
Helm blocks both of them with one hand and shoves them both to
2:07:33
the ground. And now Tony Pollard is off to
2:07:36
the races. This is and then we have that
2:07:39
great run block downfield by Van Jefferson.
2:07:41
Yes, that Van Jefferson. He's still around guys.
2:07:44
What a awesomely blocked one of the most old school plays in the
2:07:49
book, the Lombardi Buck Sweep this week on Fishes Play of the
2:07:55
Week. Oh.
2:07:56
My God, what a day. What a day.
2:08:03
Yeah. All right, there we go.
2:08:06
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this Speedy's 6 Pack of
2:08:12
the Week. Let's have a sixer.
2:08:15
Hey, who wants to play Drink the Beer?
2:08:17
It's time for the Speedy 6 pack of the week.
2:08:22
A lot of hot ladies. Well, there won't be any hot
2:08:26
ladies in these texts. Sorry Nathan, I hate.
2:08:28
To break smell my ass. But we do.
2:08:30
We do have some betting guys. Chad is with us and Johnny
2:08:32
should be with us in a few minutes.
2:08:34
Just. Start it off here.
2:08:36
We'll start with this AFC East duel, so we'll go.
2:08:39
With Dave. Chaz, you'll follow me after
2:08:41
that and we'll go with Fish, we'll go with Java and then
2:08:44
Errol. Get rounded out the Bills at the
2:08:45
Patriots. The Bills are 1 1/2 point
2:08:47
favorites at home. I think the Patriots got to lose
2:08:49
at some point. I'm going to take Buffalo in
2:08:51
this spot. They've looked very good the
2:08:52
last few weeks after losing at the Dolphins.
2:08:54
Give me Buffalo to cover this spread.
2:08:56
Chaz, back on the six pack for the first time in a while.
2:08:59
I know Wednesdays were tough for you.
2:09:01
Yes, yes, yes. Wednesdays are tough for me.
2:09:07
What do you got in this game? Chaz Pats are the bills.
2:09:11
Pats are the Bills, the Pats are I.
2:09:13
I have, I'm, I'm halfway through.
2:09:17
That's why I'm not done. So I'm not done handicapping.
2:09:20
I've got a pretty complicated handicapping system because I'm
2:09:23
a numbers guy. But I have a a a round Robin
2:09:27
going and Patriots team total over is the play.
2:09:31
All right, I'm going to take the Bills in this one as just far as
2:09:35
the spread and in general, I think the Patriots have
2:09:39
benefited from quite an easy schedule.
2:09:42
I'd like to see them really go against the Bills when they're
2:09:44
trying to be a playoff team. I think you're going to see
2:09:47
best, the best of Josh Allen on this game.
2:09:49
Give me the Bills. So.
2:09:51
The coin. We got it.
2:09:55
I'm doing a real 1 this week boys.
2:09:57
Oh nice. Tails.
2:10:04
All right. I'm on the bills as well.
2:10:10
Did I miss something because I don't know the rules?
2:10:12
What's tails and what's heads? Heads is home.
2:10:15
Tails is away. That's all I needed.
2:10:18
Thank you. Errol all.
2:10:22
Right, we got the bills and who the?
2:10:23
Patriots in New England in New England.
2:10:26
Yep, I got the Bills winning. All right, next we'll go to the
2:10:30
Chargers at the Chiefs. The Chiefs are 5 1/2 point
2:10:33
favorites at home. Kind of a desperation game for
2:10:35
the Chiefs. I do think the Chiefs do win the
2:10:37
game, but I do I don't think they cover 5 1/2 points.
2:10:40
The Chargers defenses still look really good.
2:10:42
So I think Kansas City wins with the Chargers cover.
2:10:46
Chaz to you. Yeah, it is.
2:10:49
How could you bet anything on Kansas City?
2:10:51
It's just not with my money. Yeah, I kind of feel the same
2:10:56
way. I I think the Chiefs magic is
2:10:58
over. I'm not giving them a five and a
2:11:00
half, 5 1/2 points that. Seems.
2:11:02
Sick. That seems like a sick number.
2:11:05
I, I, I don't understand that number.
2:11:08
I'm I'm taking the Chargers and the points.
2:11:10
I think the Chargers probably win this anyway to the coin.
2:11:18
I'm on the opposite, boys. Ted's always at home.
2:11:24
Mr. Marx. Who did Java take?
2:11:27
Java is on the Chiefs 5 1/2 point. 5 1/2 Yes, there are.
2:11:34
I hate that. I'm going to go Kansas City
2:11:38
because they need the game so. I'm going to go Kansas.
2:11:40
City. All right, we'll go to the one
2:11:41
wacky big spread. We were talking about it
2:11:43
earlier. I got to go back off now.
2:11:45
Your boy Philip Rivers are all they are, 13 1/2 point underdogs
2:11:49
at Seattle. It's weird though, I do think
2:11:52
it's a lot of points for a team. Sauce is coming back this week
2:11:56
too. There's a possibility of that,
2:11:59
and the Colts of the Seahawks offense has been kind of shaky
2:12:02
in recent weeks outside of the jig.
2:12:03
But I think the Colts cover the spread.
2:12:05
Seattle win the game, but I think indeed us cover the
2:12:07
spread. How bad is the flooding out
2:12:09
there? Did you guys see that?
2:12:12
That's got it. That's got to impact something
2:12:14
right with this game, doesn't I just I don't know what it is,
2:12:16
but that's what am I? So I have a round Robin going
2:12:20
with team totals and the next one is Seattle.
2:12:25
I I think Seattle wins this game by many points.
2:12:29
Give me the the Seahawks. Bam, I got tails too baby.
2:12:39
And Java on the Colts covering. I, I want the Colts to win.
2:12:45
I would like to see Philip Rivers just like chew the ear
2:12:48
off of Sam Darnold after the game, but I don't think that's
2:12:51
going to happen. I got Sam, Sammy baby in Seattle
2:12:55
winning. Give me Seattle.
2:12:57
All right, the Packers 2 1/2 point favorites on the road at
2:13:01
the Denver Broncos. Another case where I just think
2:13:04
the Broncos have to lose at some point.
2:13:05
So just like the Patriots, they're too hot.
2:13:08
Their offense still has been kind of up and down.
2:13:09
Packers have looked good. They would probably be outside
2:13:11
of the Rams and Seahawks, the next best team in the NFL right
2:13:13
now for me. Give me Green Bay here.
2:13:15
Yeah, again, this is what I think I've done.
2:13:17
This is my last game that I have something for.
2:13:19
I've got Deborah's team total over.
2:13:21
I feel like the Packers, like you watch them and they're
2:13:25
awesome the last couple of weeks, but every so often they
2:13:28
have this game where you're just like, what the hell are they
2:13:30
doing? I think it's this week.
2:13:32
Give me Denver. All right, don't let me down.
2:13:37
Carter will let me down. Come on, Coin.
2:13:41
I got the home squad. And Java's on his his son's
2:13:49
team. I've got the pack.
2:13:52
I think the pack went this week. I I think Jordan Love has an
2:13:57
unbelievable week this week. 40 point week.
2:14:00
Give me Jordan Love in the pack. All right, I'll go to Sunday
2:14:04
Night Football, the Vikings at the Cowboys.
2:14:06
Dallas's six point favorites in this one.
2:14:08
I it is a pretty big spread for a prime time game, but I'm going
2:14:11
to take Dallas here. I think they bounced back.
2:14:12
They played well enough to win against the Lions last week in
2:14:15
the second-half. I'll take the Cowboys here to
2:14:16
win and cover. So this is a game that I've got
2:14:19
notes for, and here's what it says.
2:14:20
It says Dallas at home has allowed 20 points to every
2:14:24
single team that's coming to Dallas.
2:14:27
For two straight seasons, every single team has scored 20
2:14:30
points. Only two teams that haven't
2:14:34
scored 13 or more in half one were New Jersey and Vegas.
2:14:40
And if you think about it right, that shouldn't surprise you that
2:14:43
those two teams don't score. However, I have no idea how
2:14:46
that's going to help in this game.
2:14:48
I got it's 5 1/2 points. I mean, I don't want to take
2:14:51
Dallas, but I, I, I just can't take Minnesota right now.
2:14:55
Yeah, I I don't know what to do with this Minnesota team.
2:14:58
Smell my ass. They get shut out one week and
2:15:01
then they dominate the next week.
2:15:03
It's really hard to understand for me.
2:15:05
At least with the Cowboys, you know that what they have it a
2:15:10
chance at. You know they still didn't get
2:15:12
in the playoffs. The Eagles are leaving that
2:15:14
window open for them. I think they're going to go
2:15:16
after it this week. Give me the Cowboys.
2:15:20
Who this one's? This one's a tough one.
2:15:25
Suck my Indo all right. Java is on the Vikings to cover.
2:15:33
Anybody but the Vikings. So you know my answer.
2:15:37
All right, before we get to our last game, we got a we got
2:15:40
another betting guy back from his back from his vacation in in
2:15:44
Mexico. Oh.
2:15:45
There he is. He's back.
2:15:46
He. Made in one.
2:15:49
We made. I don't know about One Piece.
2:15:53
So Johnny Hoops. Gets so cool.
2:15:55
Hope you had a good trip and we got we had five games we got to
2:15:59
and we'll get to the let's parlay ones in just a.
2:16:01
Bit first thing. Johnny, the first one we had was
2:16:04
the the Bills at the Patriots. The Bills are 1 1/2 point
2:16:07
favorites on the road. Give me the Billies.
2:16:09
I don't you know, I'm give me the Billies.
2:16:11
I'm not, I'm not a believer in the Patriots all.
2:16:12
Right, we got the Chargers at the Chiefs.
2:16:14
Chiefs 5 point favorites at 5 1/2 point favorites at home.
2:16:19
Give me the chargers. I don't care how cold it is.
2:16:21
Give me the chargers all. Right, we got these big spread
2:16:23
of the 13 1/2 boys against the potentially Philip Rivers LED
2:16:27
Colts for the Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks 13.
2:16:30
F1 big Phillip Rivers guy here. I'm not sure about Phillip
2:16:33
Rivers at 44 years old, but much props to him.
2:16:37
And I'm never going to lay 13. I rarely lay 13 in the NFL.
2:16:40
I'll take, I'll take the Colts all.
2:16:41
Right, the Packers are 2 1/2 point Rd. favorites against the
2:16:45
Broncos. You want my cream pie and not
2:16:49
really a believer in the I'm not Patriots and the Broncos are my
2:16:52
two teams that I do not believe in, so I'm going to fade that as
2:16:55
well. Take the Packers.
2:16:57
All right, And then your former team, the Dallas Cowboys, 6
2:17:00
point home favorites to the Vikings.
2:17:03
Made my nipples. Hard, yeah.
2:17:04
We kind of jump back on the bandwagon after a couple good
2:17:06
wins. I was letting everybody know,
2:17:08
but we're back off them looking for a new team.
2:17:10
But right now, give me the Cowboys all.
2:17:13
Right. And the streaks in my britch.
2:17:15
I'll go Johnny, you'll go right after Chaz.
2:17:17
Chaz is going to go second in this order.
2:17:18
We'll finish off with the Lions at the Rams 5 1/2 point
2:17:22
favorites the Rams are. I'm going to take the Rams in
2:17:24
the spot to the lines. Just have too many injuries.
2:17:27
I the Rams have been the best team in football by my eyeballs
2:17:31
in a while now for a while. All right, Johnny, what do?
2:17:35
You got I'm actually going to take take the lines in this
2:17:37
spot. I really I are the lines that
2:17:41
bad? I don't think so.
2:17:42
I think their offense can score. I think getting points keep it
2:17:44
close. They may lose the game, but I do
2:17:46
think this game is a lot closer. Maybe a field goal late though
2:17:50
to win the game. Diarrhea down their legs.
2:17:52
What's the spread? Rams 5 1/2.
2:17:56
Go suck on an egg and and. I think you got to take Lions
2:18:01
here. I think it's that's a lot of
2:18:03
points against a really good team.
2:18:05
I think even if the if it's not a cover, they don't win.
2:18:08
I think they cover that. It makes my pecker hard got
2:18:15
tails. We're in the booty.
2:18:17
Pulled it out of my ass. Rams are 5 1/2 point favorites
2:18:23
rims against the Lions. All right, that's all I got for
2:18:26
that. Yep, the Ramos, the Ramstees,
2:18:30
the R.E.M. D Dandies.
2:18:32
All right, ladies and gentlemen. So we're, we're going to have,
2:18:35
we're going to have 4 minutes to get these guys their four top
2:18:40
picks. As everybody knows, they gave
2:18:42
you, there are three top ones and then they give you their
2:18:44
parlay. You guys ready?
2:18:48
We call this Let's parlay, parlay.
2:18:58
It's time for the last one. LANE All right, boys, it's so we
2:19:07
haven't had you 2 on at the same time in a while.
2:19:09
It's an interesting time. No world wide W He's enjoying
2:19:14
himself over there in Kansas City.
2:19:16
Or is he? I don't know the loneliness of
2:19:19
Taylor Swifties, as the Swifties might not be planning or
2:19:24
planning to go to the playoffs anyway.
2:19:27
So we're going to go Reno, Johnny, then we're going to go
2:19:29
Chazz all the way through, all the way through to their four
2:19:32
picks. All right, Reno, give us your
2:19:34
number one. I think I bet it every year.
2:19:36
Army, Navy, it is habitual for me.
2:19:38
If if the game's there, I got to bet it.
2:19:40
I think this is kind of a a steal for an over at 30 1/2.
2:19:43
This line really is what it's like every year around the 3738.
2:19:48
But this Army team can throw the ball a little bit more.
2:19:50
I think both teams actually throw the ball a little bit
2:19:52
more. They kind of aired out just a
2:19:54
little bit, so you might get a game that doesn't move as
2:19:57
quickly. I do think both teams can score.
2:19:59
I think this Army team is a lot better than they started the
2:20:02
year as. After this is over 38, you can
2:20:04
find a 38. I bet it all we have 3939 1/2
2:20:09
you can. All right, chassis, give us your
2:20:11
number one. All right, so I again I have the
2:20:16
New England Patriots team total over 24 1/2.
2:20:19
Remember, I'm not done, but I was close enough to be able to
2:20:23
go with a round Robin. Now this is the time I have to
2:20:27
mention because you forgot to remind me.
2:20:30
We also Portnoy go off right. That was a 5 teamer for me.
2:20:35
I had I had Denver in the under and I'm telling my son it's a
2:20:41
bad beat. He goes well, it's not that bad.
2:20:43
I had a bad beat. So what happened with him?
2:20:45
And the reason I want to bring it up is I want your guys
2:20:47
opinion. There's three of you.
2:20:48
So it'll be whoever 2 to 1, whatever, whoever wins.
2:20:52
He said it was his worst bad beat was the BYU game.
2:20:55
BYU was was winning and covering, but they weren't
2:21:01
covering the teaser and he had the teaser.
2:21:03
He pays bigger tickets than I do.
2:21:05
He's not Johnny, you know, the GMF tickets, you know, but and
2:21:12
and then they didn't kneel and they ran and he scored and he
2:21:15
lost his teaser and then I had you know, so I don't know what
2:21:18
porno had it. I just saw the rant.
2:21:20
I don't know if he just had Denver.
2:21:21
He had, but it cost oh the side and the total on that one field
2:21:26
goal with was after a penalty was just mind boggling.
2:21:31
But. I was so.
2:21:32
Proud of myself because I didn't even swear.
2:21:35
I was. So I was in such shock.
2:21:38
And then I saw how he reacted or I was even more proud of myself.
2:21:41
But it was a five team round Robin.
2:21:43
Oh, it was. Brutal.
2:21:45
I, I was, I was on the opposite side.
2:21:47
I don't think it was a bad because I I hit that.
2:21:49
I will say the strategy. Penalty was why it was a bad
2:21:52
beat, right? The guy's on the ground.
2:21:54
Time out, time out, time out, time out.
2:21:56
We care about that because it was a 10 point game.
2:21:59
Is that the rule? Is that the rule?
2:22:00
Because if it's a 7 point game that's cold, it's a 3 point.
2:22:03
I'm a football player. Listen to me.
2:22:05
The guys on the ground, there's no timeouts.
2:22:07
They got no timeouts. Touch them, Just touch them and
2:22:10
then let the clock run out. That's what football players do.
2:22:13
That's not what. Stupid people do.
2:22:15
Stupid people do what that guy did, which is he flocked the
2:22:18
ball and got a penalty for. It and you know what, I always
2:22:22
say this and I'll get to my next pick.
2:22:24
Good teams win and the Broncos were a good team, great teams
2:22:28
cup and that's what the Raiders they cup.
2:22:30
Go ahead, Reno, give us your number. 2 next game we're going
2:22:32
to head to the NFL, which by the way, we're killing it tonight
2:22:35
here in this Falcons game with two, two TDs for Pitts.
2:22:39
That was a good little part. Little parlay ticket there for
2:22:43
me. We're going to go to the Buffalo
2:22:44
Bills. This is going to be one of my
2:22:45
games I'm going to give out. I gave it out in the sixth pack.
2:22:47
I think the Bills are going to win this game.
2:22:49
They're not going to be deterred by by by weather.
2:22:53
And I look at this Patriots team, I do give them credit at a
2:22:56
good win in Buffalo, but outside of that win in Buffalo and a
2:22:59
good win against a team that was kind of high in the Buccaneers,
2:23:01
who the hell has this team beat? They really haven't beat
2:23:04
anybody. They they are not a good
2:23:06
football team in my opinion. People don't like Drake made,
2:23:08
but you know what you can be if you're an MVP quarterback too,
2:23:11
if you can go against every 3 and 12 team in the NFLI think
2:23:15
they're overrated at this spot. I do think that you're going to
2:23:17
get a bills pretty much even money to win the game.
2:23:19
I love the bills in this spot, especially after losing.
2:23:22
I don't care they're on the road.
2:23:24
They're not going to be deterred.
2:23:25
Give me Joshy, give me the boys in Buffalo Bills mafia.
2:23:29
They win the game all. Right, Mr. Chaz, give us your
2:23:32
number 2. Jacksonville team total over.
2:23:38
All right. 27 1/2. I'm going to take a different
2:23:44
way in the Colts game here. I think the Colts was 4 points.
2:23:47
I'm not sure. I think 13 is a lot of points
2:23:51
for them to cover. I like that as well, but I kind
2:23:53
of already get that out. So I want to do something a
2:23:55
little bit different. I'm going to take the Colts to
2:23:59
score their team total. I think they do have enough,
2:24:02
especially with with Jonathan Taylor.
2:24:04
They'll get enough. You have a team total guys
2:24:06
sitting around 13 1/2, two touchdowns and one it was 14
2:24:11
1/2. But you're telling me they can't
2:24:13
score 15 points? They got they got they got ball
2:24:15
players. They also got a good defense.
2:24:16
I think their defense may be forced to turnover or two, maybe
2:24:19
get a short field, couple field, But I think it's just way too
2:24:22
low. The total for me, give me I
2:24:24
don't care. Brian Hunter, Phillip Rivers, I
2:24:27
don't care. Mid Colts team total.
2:24:29
All right, Chaz, give us your #3.
2:24:31
Well, you're going to love this then, because I I love to see
2:24:34
that game be 3736. I don't care who wins because I
2:24:38
got the other steam deep total over the Seahawks.
2:24:41
All right, Final pick. Reno, Johnny.
2:24:46
This is the game that is going to give me nightmares because I
2:24:49
I told myself I would not bet this game, but I'm going to do
2:24:52
it and I'm going to take Joe Cool, so cool to win the game
2:24:56
against Lamar Jackson. I I will say this.
2:24:59
They're out of the playoff run. They're, you know, the boys just
2:25:02
playing football. Yeah, he's he's going to play.
2:25:04
If they're going to try to win the game, I don't think they
2:25:07
care that they're out. They're they Joe Barrow said it.
2:25:10
I get paid millions of dollars to pay to play this game if I'm
2:25:12
healthy and want to play. I love their offense.
2:25:16
I'm I'm still not sold on what this Ravens offense is.
2:25:20
Defense isn't as good as it was last year.
2:25:23
Think we get a higher scoring game.
2:25:24
I can't bet 51. Don't throw too much, but give
2:25:26
me the Bengals to win this game on the money line.
2:25:28
I'm not going to take the points in the money line at about plus
2:25:30
1/25. All right, Chaz, give us your
2:25:33
final pick of the night. And I gotta go with this guys
2:25:36
game. Total over.
2:25:40
All right, boys, it was wonderful to have you chassis.
2:25:46
I saw Reno Johnny jet out. I don't know what he did.
2:25:48
Yeah, he was headed to deal with the little guy.
2:25:50
All right. Did he give us 4 or just three?
2:25:53
He gave us a four. Yeah, he gave Bengals money
2:25:55
line. Bengals.
2:25:56
Money. Cincinnati, Yeah.
2:25:58
OK. Yeah, you know what?
2:26:00
I'm telling you right now, any of these guys, I don't know how
2:26:04
you found these guys. I I really don't know how you
2:26:06
found all the handicapps you have in your show, But any of
2:26:09
these guys give you a ticket and you don't bet it.
2:26:12
You're stupid. It's just that simple because
2:26:15
they win a lot. You know, the numbers, you've
2:26:17
been keeping the numbers. So.
2:26:20
Yeah. So, you know, he gives out four
2:26:22
teams. I throw it in a pilot.
2:26:23
I usually do a round Robin in case he goes three and one.
2:26:25
These round Robins are great until, you know, you have that
2:26:27
Portnoy situation. But understand the guy was down,
2:26:32
they had no time out, the clock was gonna run out.
2:26:36
He ripped into the guys stomach and pulled the ball out.
2:26:40
For what reason I have no idea. All right Jazzy, that was it.
2:26:46
We got a. Lot of show left we appreciate.
2:26:49
It hey, hey, Saturday night we'll give it another best bet
2:26:53
winner. How's that sound?
2:26:55
How's he? Yeah, buddy, he tasted.
2:26:56
Out of trouble, guys. Thank you, Chaz.
2:26:58
Thank you, Reno. Johnny, you.
2:26:59
Guys. Fantastic.
2:27:00
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to go to a quick
2:27:03
break. It's quick.
2:27:04
And then we got Jabba rules and we have Charlie Slows joining us
2:27:09
to talk some baseball. I asked him to come on.
2:27:13
Daryl Reed couldn't join us and he's been waiting really
2:27:16
patiently in the back end. So when we come back, we got
2:27:19
Charlie Slows, we got Jabba Rules, got some baseball.
2:27:22
We come back here on Job of the Mouth.
2:27:27
This is the Jabba and the Mouth Sportsman ads.
2:27:32
All right guys, Aaron Fishman here with your job in Mount
2:27:35
Sports Minute got a couple of stories for you before we get
2:27:38
through the scores this evening. The Fighting Irish are certainly
2:27:41
living up to their name after raising a huge stink getting
2:27:44
snubbed by the College Football Playoff committee from the 12
2:27:46
team playoff this year. While the fighting continues
2:27:49
Thursday as multiple ADS are aligning against Notre Dame for
2:27:53
their apparently preferential treatment as a non conference
2:27:57
school starting next season. Next year, if Notre Dame
2:28:01
finishes the season in the top 12, they will be given an
2:28:04
automatic playoff berth. This has more than rankled the
2:28:07
status quo of college football. And earlier on Thursday, a
2:28:10
report from Yahoo Sports is Dan Wolken states that the athletic
2:28:14
directors around the NCAA are conspiring, conspiring openly
2:28:19
against Notre Dame, threatening to freeze them out of matchups
2:28:22
with their schools so they won't be able to have a high enough
2:28:25
ranking to make the playoffs. The treatment is certainly
2:28:30
preferential, but one can argue, and it appears Notre Dame has
2:28:32
argued this successfully to the NCAA at least, that the Irish
2:28:36
are a national brand and should be put on TV over other programs
2:28:40
that will bring in less revenue and fewer eyeballs to the
2:28:43
product. Either way, get your popcorn
2:28:45
ready. This story is only just getting
2:28:47
going. Future Hall of Fame tight end
2:28:50
Travis Kelsey, in his usual honest, hard on his sleep
2:28:54
fashion, went on his New Heights podcast Wednesday with his
2:28:56
brother Jason and confessed that he has no answers for his fall
2:29:00
off in production and the team's season long slump, which has put
2:29:04
them on the precipice of missing the playoffs for the first time
2:29:07
since Patrick Mahomes his rookie season.
2:29:09
When he backed up Alex Smith in 2014, they were nine and seven
2:29:13
that year. This season has been clearly the
2:29:16
worst season in the home the Mahomes era Chiefs, and a lot of
2:29:19
that is due to Father Time finally taking its toll on
2:29:21
Kelsey, who was once on guardable and unstoppable in
2:29:25
tandem with Tyree Kill. In what seems like distant
2:29:27
history looking back at the product on the field today,
2:29:31
Kelsey had drops on back-to-back plays late in the Chiefs latest
2:29:35
loss to the Texans, the second of which was picked off, killing
2:29:38
Casey's comeback chances. I keep thinking if I show up to
2:29:41
work and I put in the work and I fix the issues through practice,
2:29:45
my practice habits and through perfecting the game plan and my
2:29:48
fundamentals and what I'm being taught and go out there and try
2:29:51
and play my ass off for the guys next to me, it's all going to
2:29:54
come together like it has in years past.
2:29:56
And this year, it is just not man.
2:29:59
Well, while this might be the end of the line for Travis
2:30:02
Kelsey, he has plenty of hardware to his name.
2:30:05
He is a surefire Hall of Famer and is marrying the most famous
2:30:08
and one of the more wealthy women perhaps in the world.
2:30:11
I think he'll be fine even if this is the end of the line for
2:30:15
one of the top five or so tight ends of all time.
2:30:18
Guys, we are streaming live on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube
2:30:22
on our Job in the Mouth handle, on Facebook under the Worldwide
2:30:25
Sports Radio Network handle, and on Twitter under our host handle
2:30:28
at Errol Marx 34. Keep downloading on Apple
2:30:31
Podcasts and watch us both there and on Spotify.
2:30:34
Now in video, make sure you like and subscribe to all our shorts,
2:30:37
reels, Tik Toks, and longer videos that you see from us
2:30:39
throughout the week. Now back to Errol Jabba and
2:30:42
Speedy for our guest on Jabba and the Mouth.
2:30:48
Any questions we're. Back this is the Jabba and the
2:30:52
Mouth show I had. To take a shit.
2:30:55
I got the bubble gum. What about Skid Mart?
2:31:01
631-672-3108 isn't I'm going to call.
2:31:07
You're listening to Jabba and the mouth.
2:31:11
You know who I am. My name is Errol Marks, my Co
2:31:13
host Mr. Flamethrower, Jabba Chamberlain and Speedy PD
2:31:18
Remember you go to our website at www.worldwidesportsradio.com.
2:31:22
Check out all our shows throughout the week including
2:31:24
Jabba in the Mouth every single Mondays and Wednesdays at 7:30
2:31:28
PM. All you have to do to tune in,
2:31:29
check out a local listings for all our shows is GO to our
2:31:32
website at www.worldwidesportsradio.com.
2:31:37
We have a very special guest and before we get him in, we're
2:31:40
going to do Jabba Rules. And ladies and gentlemen, we're
2:31:43
going to talk a little baseball with him cuz he is the best in
2:31:46
the business at it. But this show is brought to you
2:31:49
by Omaha Steaks and the ladies and gentlemen they're giving you
2:31:52
an extra 10% off on all orders to all Jabba the Mouth fans.
2:31:57
All you have to do is click the link omahasteaks.com slash in
2:32:02
the mouth or go to ourwebsite@worldwidesportsradio.com
2:32:06
and click the Omaha Steaks logo. Ladies and gentlemen, if you
2:32:09
like your beef, you like it thick, you like it thin, you
2:32:11
like it cut, like the Omaha style, Nebraska style, Speedy
2:32:16
likes it thick, he likes it long, he likes it whatever.
2:32:19
All you got to do is reach out to our click or our link jab on
2:32:25
the mouth on the Omaha Steaks. Or you can go to our website
2:32:29
and, and ladies and gentlemen, you can get you 10% off for the
2:32:31
holiday. Go to armahasteaks.com/jabba in
2:32:35
the mouth and get your sticks. All right, Jabba, we got Charlie
2:32:41
in. We're going to talk some
2:32:42
baseball with him, but you've got something important to go
2:32:45
into. We've got Jabba rules history in
2:32:49
the making you. Ready Jabba Rules Rules.
2:32:53
Like the streaks in my britches. I've always like the job rules
2:32:57
now. And it's so awesome that you
2:33:00
brought Charlie in for this because this was one of those,
2:33:04
one of those rules where I, I wanted to get into it.
2:33:08
And obviously now having Charlie on is, is huge.
2:33:12
But winter meetings are very anti climactic for me this year.
2:33:17
And we knew. We kind of knew.
2:33:19
What was what? Was going to happen in the names
2:33:22
that we saw, but there wasn't. There wasn't anything that like
2:33:27
struck me where it was surprising or anything or any
2:33:32
team did anything. And I don't know if that's
2:33:36
because they're, they're looking at what's going to happen with
2:33:40
the CBA or they're, they're looking at that and as far as
2:33:43
like certain things that are happening in the game and
2:33:45
evolving. But for me, it was like the
2:33:49
winter meetings were it, it didn't do much for me.
2:33:53
I usually get excited around this time, like being a part of
2:33:56
it and doing it and understanding like kind of what
2:34:00
they do. And like the back end that we
2:34:02
don't see when, you know, guys are sliding in the back door
2:34:05
and, and, and having meetings with, with the owners and the
2:34:08
presidents and all the other stuff.
2:34:11
But this year just didn't really do anything for me.
2:34:14
And we got basically what, 3 big signings, kind of maybe Edwin to
2:34:21
the Dodgers was a little bit surprising, but we didn't have a
2:34:26
Tucker. We didn't have anybody else that
2:34:29
we, we thought might happen. And so for me, what didn't rule
2:34:36
in winter meetings was the winter meetings.
2:34:38
I, I, I think it was, it was very mundane and very boring.
2:34:44
And Charlie, do you think the CBA like is, is it affecting
2:34:47
this is as far as like all the things that are happening or,
2:34:51
or, or am I overthinking it? Well, you, you triggered
2:34:55
something that I read today trying to think it was
2:35:00
attributed to, but it was just kind of a group thing.
2:35:02
And it's going to be back on with you guys, by the way, that
2:35:07
the winter meetings used to be a bigger deal before social media
2:35:12
and texting became such a big thing because it was when people
2:35:17
got in front of each other. And actually now it's just like
2:35:22
a shake of a hand. And you know, but it's not like
2:35:26
they don't see each other, talk to each other because they're
2:35:30
texting even while they're at the winter meetings where it
2:35:32
used to be like face to face made something happen.
2:35:36
Now it's, I basically heard one GM wasn't quoted saying we could
2:35:42
not have the winter meetings and the same things would take place
2:35:47
that took place. Maybe you wouldn't have had Pete
2:35:50
Alonso drive from Tampa to Orlando to meet with Orioles
2:35:53
people and seal the deal if there weren't a winter meetings
2:35:58
and he was driving an hour and a half from his home in the Tampa
2:36:02
area to Orlando to do this. But they said, you know, they're
2:36:05
saying, really deals are going to happen after the winter
2:36:09
meetings are over because everybody is texting all the
2:36:12
time and talking all the time. And so it isn't the like this
2:36:15
big thing where you get everyone together and something huge is
2:36:18
going to happen at that moment. And that's maybe what makes it
2:36:23
different than what it used to be.
2:36:28
You know. We can blame it again on texting
2:36:31
and social media. You know what's so funny?
2:36:33
And I want to, I want to get into the New York Mets because
2:36:38
we had our own take to it, Charlie.
2:36:40
And there's a lot going on with the New York Mets over here.
2:36:43
A lot of fans want to just completely drop the hammer on
2:36:46
David Stearns and Steve Cohen. Your thoughts on the New York
2:36:50
Mets in this absolute debacle? What you know, I can see, you
2:36:57
know, they send Brandon Nimmo to a big deal and maybe they
2:37:01
thought that it was going to project out the way they had
2:37:04
hoped to think. They saw a way to get out of the
2:37:06
length of that deal, even by Marcus Simeon, an older player
2:37:11
who's making more money in the short term.
2:37:16
They lost Edwin Diaz over $3 million over the course of that
2:37:21
deal. So basically, it didn't come
2:37:23
down to money for Edwin Diaz. If if $3,000,000 at that point
2:37:28
wasn't going to make a difference, if he still wanted
2:37:30
to be a Met, they could have matched that deal or he could
2:37:33
have taken that deal if he really wanted to be with the
2:37:37
Mets. But then you know, after you've
2:37:41
lost him and you're coming down to Pete Alonso and you figure
2:37:48
Alonso was pissed the way things went last year, right?
2:37:52
He got a two year deal with an out after one year to become a
2:37:56
free agent again and that they told him they weren't going to
2:37:59
go more than three years. So sure, if you're him, you're
2:38:02
coming off another great year production wise.
2:38:05
You're the all time Mets home run leader.
2:38:07
Why wouldn't you see if somebody's going to give you 4
2:38:10
or five years and then they weren't even involved in it
2:38:13
after that point, which OK, there's a long way to go in the
2:38:18
offseason, but where is there another player who's going to
2:38:23
produce what Pete Alonso does offensively?
2:38:26
Are you, if you get Cody Ballinger, seems like he wants
2:38:29
to be back with the Yankees if they make the right deal, you're
2:38:33
not getting Bellinger. So who else is going to produce
2:38:39
and provide those kind of numbers right now with the line
2:38:42
if they have, OK, put Mark Vientos in it first or maybe you
2:38:46
get William Contreras come up. Contreras is not Pete Alonso
2:38:49
offensive now, not even close. So I don't know where they come
2:38:55
up with those numbers, but unless you have a presence
2:38:57
behind Juan Soto, good luck paying him all that money to
2:39:01
walk 150 times. That's what's going to happen.
2:39:04
Charlie, I got an idea because I've been hearing that
2:39:07
Philadelphia just gave Schwaber a lot of money, well enough
2:39:11
money. I wouldn't say a lot of money,
2:39:12
but a fair, a fair contract, $30 million that you're hearing that
2:39:17
Bryce Harper could be available. Do the Mets trade for Bryce
2:39:20
Harper and move him to first base.
2:39:22
That gives you that solidify. I don't know if it's it's Pete
2:39:25
Alonzo power numbers, but it gives you that power in the
2:39:28
lineup and and by the way, Juan Soto and him are very close.
2:39:30
So maybe something like that. Do you see that happening?
2:39:34
They say there's no chance in the world Dave Dabrowski is
2:39:40
trading Bryce Harper to the Mets.
2:39:43
There is nothing that they will get back the the Phillies.
2:39:49
The Phillies are still in in that by giving Schwarber the
2:39:52
money and last year, you know, they they locked up their
2:39:57
starting pitching and, you know, maybe they might lose one of
2:40:00
their starters this year. If they do anything else,
2:40:03
they're going to get another starting pitcher to solidify the
2:40:06
rotation. But the Phillies to me, are
2:40:09
still on the cusp of a team that that's a World Series contender.
2:40:13
They're in at the age of their players, especially if they
2:40:16
signed Rio Muto. They're in win Now mode again.
2:40:20
Charlie, what do you, what do you think too on, on that?
2:40:22
Sorry to cut you off, but what do you think too like obviously
2:40:26
with Preston being in the front office for the Phillies, what do
2:40:29
you think adding Donnie Baseball to, to that?
2:40:33
And I had the fortunate pleasure, obviously, to, to be
2:40:36
with Tomper and and Kevin Long and those guys.
2:40:39
What do you think he adds to that dynamic of, of the
2:40:43
clubhouse and, and on the bench? He's Donnie Baseball.
2:40:49
You know, everybody wants, by the way, that air committee
2:40:52
missed, missed on it missed. But but I mean, Bryce Harper is
2:40:58
a student of the game, the history of the game.
2:41:02
He's one of the most knowledgeable players about
2:41:05
baseball and sports in general. He'll tell you the third string
2:41:09
long snapper is on Division 3 football teams.
2:41:12
This guy's locked in on everything.
2:41:14
So believe me, whatever knowledge that he can pull out
2:41:18
of Don Mataley that can help him or help his team win, he's going
2:41:22
to do and he's going to want everybody else to be part of
2:41:25
that also. And you know, you have their
2:41:28
manager who was part of that group also in New York.
2:41:32
I mean, so well. And you know what people, what
2:41:35
people don't understand about what Tomper did, Topper ran
2:41:39
everything. He literally spring training.
2:41:42
He was there at 4:30 shaving his beard.
2:41:44
He shaves every day. He was there running everything
2:41:48
like Thomas ran everything and he's unbelievable.
2:41:53
I don't think he gets it. It took him so many years in
2:41:57
people that know the game as you've been around it.
2:41:59
Thomas went from every level of everything that he did and he
2:42:03
was very well deserving. The only other person that I
2:42:07
have come encounter with that should be a manager that hasn't
2:42:13
is Sandy Alamar. How is that?
2:42:18
How is that not happen? How does that not happen at the
2:42:23
same time, at the same time this year?
2:42:26
I want to ask you this too. We're we're in New York playing
2:42:31
the Yankees, the Nationals in late August.
2:42:34
And Willie Randolph's walking around behind the cage, right?
2:42:37
He's he's he's like, you didn't even I didn't even get to it,
2:42:43
right? I didn't even get to it.
2:42:46
And I what I wanted to ask Willie because I became close
2:42:50
with Lou Penelo when he managed in Tampa Bay and I was there
2:42:52
calling their games. And you know, these are to me
2:42:57
Lou's royalty, right, Lou Penelo.
2:43:00
And you know, he went through a lot with prostate cancer and,
2:43:06
you know, his body took a toll. And when you see Lou, he he
2:43:09
looks every bit of 81 years old now.
2:43:11
He does. He doesn't look like the Lou you
2:43:13
remember. But I said to Willie, how did
2:43:16
Lou look when you stomach Yankees old timer say, and he
2:43:18
goes, you know, he kind of like rallied and like come back.
2:43:21
And it was like the Lou you knew.
2:43:23
And I'm thinking as I'm talking to him and I said to will, I
2:43:25
said, Willie, how are you not working in bed?
2:43:27
How are you not teaching baseball to somebody?
2:43:32
And he said, you know, for the life of me, I can't figure it
2:43:35
out. And, and he told me Yankees
2:43:39
people don't want him talking to the players about the game.
2:43:43
He's a club ambassador, represents them, but they don't
2:43:46
want him to be teaching the game.
2:43:48
And I'm like, wow, wow. I, I know he managed the Mets
2:43:54
and they had that epic collapse, 17 games left, seven game lead
2:43:58
and they don't win. But how does that guy not have
2:44:01
something that that he can give to young players with the with
2:44:06
the era and the era and the teams that he played on?
2:44:10
But it just takes me to what you what you, what we were talking
2:44:13
about to begin with in in this conversation, Don Magley, Willie
2:44:17
Randolph, those guys are baseball royalty.
2:44:22
They should have always have a place in the game, you know, And
2:44:26
that being said, everybody's moving towards hiring guys who
2:44:32
worked at Driveline Baseball. I knew I knew exactly where
2:44:35
you're going to go with this. And I know Speedy has something
2:44:37
to say because he the team, the team I work for.
2:44:42
Now, when I go to spring training, I will not know a
2:44:44
single. Let's say I've been with the
2:44:47
Nationals for 21 years. I was with Tampa Bay for seven.
2:44:50
I did fill insurance for several years for the Orioles and the
2:44:53
Mets. I literally will not know one
2:44:56
person other than Sean Doolittle coming back who will be on the
2:45:00
coaching staff, the big league staff, just John.
2:45:03
And that's maybe never happened. Before.
2:45:05
John, but a pretty perspective. So CC and I were talking about
2:45:07
this last week. Literally the average age of the
2:45:10
Nationals coaching staff is going to what'd you say about 31
2:45:12
or something like that? 11 coach who's 51, who's in his
2:45:17
40s, who's who's been in the big leagues, is a big league
2:45:21
catching coach. But you know, other than
2:45:23
Doolittle, none of the others have ever coached at the Major
2:45:26
League level. Yeah, neither is the manager.
2:45:29
So it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean you won't have success, but
2:45:34
it's just you're you're going to a different era where this was
2:45:38
interesting a couple of years ago.
2:45:42
A guy I was with when the Nationals started in 2005, Brad
2:45:45
Wilkerson, was an outfielder who came with them from Montreal
2:45:49
when the team moved and he was the assistant hitting coach for
2:45:53
the Yankees. And he told me he could see
2:45:56
video of everything that was being worked on with players at
2:46:00
every level of the farm system. And the guys who were in the
2:46:03
cage with the hitters were video guys.
2:46:06
They weren't, they weren't, they were the ones who the coaches,
2:46:09
but they were video guys that weren't guys who played baseball
2:46:13
necessarily. And so it kind of it kind of is
2:46:17
a mind blow, but you know, all of it now is these guys who can
2:46:21
look at a player, determine what their swing path is, what
2:46:27
pitches they're supposed to swing at to have the best
2:46:29
success. And that's got to be their
2:46:32
approach. So, you know, maybe this started
2:46:36
with Tampa Bay where they were making out line UPS based on who
2:46:39
the pitcher is. Well, if this guy's a fastball
2:46:42
pitcher, these guys are going to play.
2:46:43
If this guy's an off speed pitcher, these guys are going to
2:46:46
play. And the guys who hit fastballs
2:46:48
won't play. You know, and, and I guess it's
2:46:52
a way to get around not having a lineup of eight guys who can
2:46:56
just freaking hit anybody. You know, that's how you're
2:47:00
trying to maximize success now. And the same story with
2:47:04
pitchers. You know, we're going to put all
2:47:06
these cameras up and determine your, your, your best pitch is
2:47:13
all that other stuff. Your, your, your angles, your
2:47:16
tilt, your spin, you know, then you listen to the Doctor Who's
2:47:22
doing all of the Tommy John surgeries with the, with the
2:47:25
internal brace, saying all this may not be the best way to go
2:47:29
because guys are just trying to maximize every pitch for as long
2:47:33
as they can until they blow out. That's that's the thing.
2:47:36
Charlie too, where like I, I look at it too.
2:47:39
And and as as you reference the guys that we've talked about, we
2:47:45
don't have enough baseball dudes in front offices like we see
2:47:51
like obviously now see why in Texas, what do you do?
2:47:56
He ended up going to win. Buster's doing a lot of really
2:48:01
cool things. What did see why do at Texas?
2:48:03
He brought in Bochy, what they do.
2:48:05
They won a World Series right right away.
2:48:08
What's? Buster going to do like they're
2:48:10
going to bring baseball guys in and it's why why do these minds
2:48:15
that we have that should be at the pinnacle and leading an
2:48:22
organization or leading A-Team, But when we're relying on
2:48:27
freaking dudes that are literally an MIT grad that looks
2:48:31
at numbers and be like, this guy's going to be great.
2:48:34
Well, no, put eyes on the prize, right?
2:48:37
Like it's it's stratomatic baseball and it's it's
2:48:44
frustrating as old. I'm a old school baseball guy.
2:48:47
I'm a Advil long toss and run that that's what I do.
2:48:51
And I teach kids and my son's a sophomore in college.
2:48:54
What we do is we play long toss. We do these things and do I look
2:48:59
at certain things and I have to adjust to because I know the
2:49:03
game is changing and it and it is changing in in certain ways
2:49:06
do it. But do I think, and we've talked
2:49:08
about this plenty of times on the show.
2:49:10
There is there is a place for those things, but when we have
2:49:15
great minds that are in the game that we all know and that we
2:49:19
see, why are they not put in a position to be able to take care
2:49:26
of a team and and do it in the baseball sense?
2:49:30
Not in the analytical sense, in the baseball sense, because
2:49:35
we've seen now where it's changed.
2:49:37
And I think, and Ariel will say the same thing, like he hates
2:49:41
the Dodgers because of what they're doing.
2:49:44
But also if I'm a player, they're spending the money and
2:49:49
giving me, I want to go play with those guys.
2:49:53
But if I have somebody else and. What we're asking right now.
2:49:58
Yes, he has a great example because talked about his brother
2:50:03
who had success in Cincinnati and then fell off and then they
2:50:09
he ends up in in LA, even though he wasn't there long, he told
2:50:13
his brother what it was like there and how they treat
2:50:15
everybody. And so if if Edwin Diaz felt his
2:50:20
path to win was with the Mets, would $3,000,000 at that point
2:50:24
make that much difference to him?
2:50:26
OK. But Charlie, at the same time
2:50:27
what we're talking about? Who, who?
2:50:30
Who? Is in that dugout every day.
2:50:33
Who is he? Dave Roberts, a player gets it,
2:50:39
understands it. And why do they do these things?
2:50:45
And you see the success of these coaches that have played the
2:50:51
game and put guys in situations to where it's like, hey, I can I
2:50:56
can see these things. And I know the numbers may not
2:51:01
tell me what's actually going to happen or it may tell me what's
2:51:05
going to happen, but I'm watching the game.
2:51:08
I'm watching the game. And that's what they do.
2:51:11
Like we seen it. Like one of the most prime
2:51:13
examples I think about is you. You brought up Tampa, right?
2:51:19
Look at Snow when they took a while.
2:51:21
He's facing the line for the third time.
2:51:23
What happened? They end up freaking losing a
2:51:25
World Series because of their analytical aspect, not you
2:51:28
watching the damn game, right? That night he was lights out and
2:51:34
you made a decision based on it, everything that happened in his
2:51:38
career up until then, but you didn't trust that night that he
2:51:42
could go further. And the other part of it was
2:51:45
once you went to the bullpen and you're in Game 7, they're
2:51:49
bringing in the same, no offense to relievers, but they're
2:51:52
bringing in the same relievers. Who?
2:51:54
Pitched in every game of the series who were probably a
2:51:59
little bit gassed at that point, but it's not a different look
2:52:03
anymore to the hitter cuz they've no.
2:52:05
Seen them all the more the more they.
2:52:07
See us at that point, the more they see us, it's like you, you
2:52:11
already know that what my sequences are you, you know
2:52:15
these things. And we switched that up and and
2:52:16
that's why we're trying to play chess and not checkers.
2:52:20
Charlie's team in the in the nationals, well, they won.
2:52:22
They were bringing starters out of the pen and kind of defying
2:52:24
those obviously bullpen's. Got shakiness.
2:52:28
We didn't. We didn't have enough people in
2:52:30
the bullpen. Yeah.
2:52:32
Our bullpen was was not very good.
2:52:35
You had basically you had Doolittle and Hudson.
2:52:38
So I mean, that wasn't something that wasn't done before where
2:52:42
teams would put starters. It wasn't as in the home, in
2:52:45
the. Postseason.
2:52:46
But we we did it a lot that postseason.
2:52:49
We did it with Scherzer, we did it with Strasburg, which helped
2:52:52
the Nationals win the Wild Card game.
2:52:55
Patrick Corbin, Those are the best 3 innings he had in six.
2:52:58
Years with the Nationals. And he was only supposed to
2:53:01
pitch 1 inning, 1 inning, the 6th inning after Scherzer
2:53:05
pitched the first five in Game 7.
2:53:07
And Scherzer was the one saying leave them in, leave them in.
2:53:10
We don't have enough to get to Doolittle and Hudson.
2:53:13
He ended up pitching 3 innings, lights out, nobody got on base.
2:53:17
And then they turned the game around against the Astros, who
2:53:20
took their starter out. After he gave up.
2:53:23
He was pitching shut out ball gives up a solo home run, they
2:53:26
take him out and the Nationals hit two home runs and turn the
2:53:31
game around and score 6 unanswered runs.
2:53:33
So I mean, Greg Food was lights out, but they didn't trust him
2:53:39
to go deeper into the game. Same thing.
2:53:41
We've talked about this too, and Ariel L will chime in because I
2:53:44
know as soon as I say this exactly what he's going to say.
2:53:48
But when we were winning stick, Michael was in our front office
2:53:52
and I know who you're going to say that did other things.
2:53:56
They're all I know what you're going to say.
2:53:58
But you got a baseball dude that came his way to Trenton, NJ to
2:54:04
watch me pitch and be like, this kid can help us in the big
2:54:06
leagues. It wasn't like, oh, he's doing
2:54:09
this, he's doing that. And other guys that helped the
2:54:12
team. He's like, I have to like, and
2:54:14
he even told me this and God rest his soul, he was like, I
2:54:18
have to, I have to see it. I want to see it like you can
2:54:22
tell me how good he is in his numbers, but if I don't see it
2:54:26
and it ain't there, that's not going to be what we want.
2:54:32
And we I don't I don't think we have enough of that like because
2:54:37
it it starts so young now where everything is exit below it's
2:54:41
spin, right? It's all this other stuff.
2:54:44
But let's put an eye on a prize. You you look at so many guys
2:54:47
that have played this game where if you would have put them on a
2:54:51
track man or a rap Sato or whatever it is and they had
2:54:55
those, you wouldn't have spent 2 seconds on them.
2:55:02
But they're gamers. Dustin Pedroia, perfect example.
2:55:07
And there's way more. Billy too small, too small.
2:55:13
They're not good enough. They're not big enough.
2:55:17
Goes wins a rookie a year and MVP like he's a gamer Charlie
2:55:24
and if you came to your eyes on a prize.
2:55:26
Charlie, you mentioned Willie, Willie Randolph and you're
2:55:30
saying that Willie Randolph, obviously the Yankees aren't
2:55:32
letting him work with the younger guys.
2:55:34
And, and we've seen this Andy Pettitte for years.
2:55:37
He used to go to spring training.
2:55:38
All of them usually go to spring training and work with the
2:55:41
younger kids. And you have Reggie Jackson, who
2:55:44
I think the Yankees did him wrong and that's why he went to
2:55:47
the Astros. And that's.
2:55:48
Why he no, he'd burn his own bridge.
2:55:50
Well, I'm sure I don't know. You probably know more than I
2:55:53
do, but I I think that obviously Reggie Jackson is a guy that
2:55:57
I've always liked. I've always respected his game
2:56:00
and and what he's all about. I checked out his Reggie
2:56:03
documentary, by the way. It's sensational pride put a put
2:56:07
a really good product out there. And I haven't even checked out
2:56:10
Alex Rodriguez documentary, which I heard is really, really
2:56:13
good too. So one of these days I'm going
2:56:14
to get to that Charlie Jabba's talking about obviously the game
2:56:19
and how a lot of these ex players, the guys that know the
2:56:22
game very, very well, why aren't they put in the position to
2:56:25
succeed from the guys that don't know the game?
2:56:28
Is there a particular organization right now besides
2:56:31
the teams that we bring up, Tampa being one of them that
2:56:34
have been very well known to develop players?
2:56:37
Is there a particular organization that you have
2:56:40
watched grow players in the farm system that you believe has
2:56:45
really transitioned the game and helped the game grow over the
2:56:48
last couple of years? Is there a particular
2:56:50
organization that you like out of all the rest?
2:56:54
I think, you know, Atlanta has always been good at homegrown
2:56:59
players coming up through their system, maybe not as much in
2:57:02
recent years. They've always been able to
2:57:04
identify players in the Atlanta area and have scouted and
2:57:08
drafted them and developed them to get to the big league level.
2:57:13
You know, the Dodgers maybe not as much in recent years.
2:57:16
A lot of their prospects, they used to trade, but again, you
2:57:23
developed a Will Smith. They have the money now to go
2:57:27
out and still sign whoever they want.
2:57:30
So they haven't developed as many.
2:57:31
You've got their center fielders come through the organization.
2:57:35
You know, I, I, I think, you know, more teams that don't have
2:57:40
the financial resources are focused on trying to develop
2:57:44
players and get them to the big leagues through their farm
2:57:47
system. So what, what you know, it's,
2:57:49
it's not that, it's not that what you find out is it's not
2:57:53
that easy. It's not that easy.
2:57:56
And so that's why you have these organizations trying different
2:58:01
types of ways to develop players and bring in these people who
2:58:06
think they're going to accelerate development and
2:58:11
establishing culture and a way to go about it.
2:58:13
At the same time, you say these owners, all of them are
2:58:17
billionaires. They they can do whatever the
2:58:21
heck they want. And it's do you want to put a
2:58:26
product on the field that puts butts in seats or do we want to
2:58:33
win? And they, I think they go hand
2:58:36
in hand, right? Because if you, if you don't
2:58:39
have those dudes that kids want to buy their jerseys and do all
2:58:44
those things where we always, we always talk about certain things
2:58:49
of like, oh, they don't want to spend like the end of the day.
2:58:53
We call baseball in our in, in the club.
2:58:56
It's a billionaire's board game. Do you want to get, do you want
2:58:59
to get Atlantic? You want to buy a railroad?
2:59:03
It's a club. It's, it's, it's their monopoly
2:59:07
board like you're saying. So, and and we talked about this
2:59:11
the last time I was on, which goes to what just happened
2:59:16
yesterday. Did the Orioles just find a way
2:59:20
to sell some tickets 1000% right by signing Pete Alonso for five
2:59:26
years? Because now fans are going, OK,
2:59:29
you sign Helsley if you know, you just signed Alonso.
2:59:35
If we get another starting pitcher here and all those young
2:59:38
players who didn't have great years rebound, the Orioles have
2:59:43
a chance to contend for the division in the AL ES now.
2:59:46
Right away, right away if if their pitching's better, they
2:59:51
have a closer of Helsley. You know, it's true that he was
2:59:54
tipping pitches and figured that out.
2:59:55
That's why he was unsuccessful the Mets.
2:59:58
And he he turns that around right away and he's the pitcher
3:00:01
he was in Saint Louis. And maybe they add a starting
3:00:04
pitcher to the mix. They're right there.
3:00:06
They might be as good as better than the Yankees.
3:00:09
And you know, depending what Toronto does that, you know,
3:00:12
Toronto's probably still, you know, contends for the division.
3:00:16
But the Orioles step, the Orioles step in a step up in a
3:00:20
huge way. Alonso I don't.
3:00:22
And that's what he that's what excites a fan base.
3:00:25
I don't like I don't like the Orioles making that move for
3:00:28
Pete Alonso for one reason. And if you look at Peter Pete
3:00:32
Alonso's numbers in the American League East, it's not very good.
3:00:35
And now you're coming, you're coming into a division where
3:00:38
you're going to have to compete with the Yankees 15 games a
3:00:41
year. You got to play the Red Sox, the
3:00:43
the Rays and the Blue Jays. And you're an Oreos team that
3:00:47
kind of underperformed last year.
3:00:50
So there's a lot of pressure on the Orioles this year if if the
3:00:53
the Orioles do not produce, are they going to be able to keep
3:00:56
the younger players? You have all these great younger
3:00:58
players and you have all these great draft classes that you've
3:01:01
had over the years. You traded away your best
3:01:03
pitching prospect for for what? I mean, a lot of things that the
3:01:08
Orioles have done this offseason have you shaking your head and
3:01:11
and and you're bringing Pete Alonzo because the Mets are just
3:01:14
foolish organization that let their best power hitter go so.
3:01:19
Now, you know, I Grayson Rodriguez A-Team always knows
3:01:24
the medicals on their player better than anybody who's going
3:01:27
to acquire them. So there's something they that
3:01:30
they are afraid of if they traded him at this point when he
3:01:34
was one of their top pitching prospects.
3:01:36
And, and Charlie, what I, what I heard too in to piggyback kind
3:01:41
of what you're saying is from the guys that I talked to, they
3:01:46
based, you were like, we've seen all and they kind of just gave
3:01:50
up on them because they're like, well, we couldn't figure it out.
3:01:53
We couldn't do anything. And they just were like, well,
3:01:56
if it works, it works, but obviously it didn't work there.
3:01:59
So he literally is like just a fish out of water at that point.
3:02:05
And they're like, well, what are we going to get for him?
3:02:08
And did they get anything for him?
3:02:10
Not really, but they just kind of gave up on him And, and I
3:02:15
know that does happen. I I, I get that because of, you
3:02:18
know, injuries and and stuff like that, but if he goes out
3:02:22
and does anything, they didn't get anything back for him.
3:02:26
He got, he got a left fielder, right-handed hitter who produces
3:02:29
some power. So they needed it.
3:02:31
They need and he's an everyday player right in in left field.
3:02:34
So there's there's value in that.
3:02:37
If they had another starting pitcher, Rogers, who was a
3:02:40
disaster when they traded for him from Miami and gave up a
3:02:43
couple of really good players. It's look what happened with
3:02:46
Stowers in Miami. But then Rogers was great the
3:02:50
second-half of last year when he came back from the injury.
3:02:53
So again, those he wasn't pitching in the pressure of a
3:02:56
Pennant race. So let's let's see what he is
3:02:59
Trevor Rogers out of the gate this coming year.
3:03:04
But but you know, when you talk about every owner is a
3:03:08
billionaire in a billionaire's club, you know, it goes back to,
3:03:13
you know, when I talked about San Diego, when they moved into
3:03:16
that ballpark, they didn't sell out there a team that drew 1520
3:03:20
thousand fans a game there. And now they're number 2IN
3:03:23
attendance in the major leagues to the Dodgers ahead of the
3:03:26
Yankees. Saint Louis used to be at the
3:03:28
top, fell off in a big way, and that's because they have
3:03:31
superstars in their lineup. That's what sells tickets.
3:03:34
Whether you win a championship, when you get to the postseason
3:03:37
or not, you've put yourself in that position to get there.
3:03:40
But you're a team that's making money because you're drawing.
3:03:45
And so it's hard for me to comprehend if you you own a
3:03:50
team, if you take revenue sharing and that's enough for
3:03:54
you to make a profit with TV money and everything else.
3:03:58
But you're not putting people in the stands.
3:04:02
If you try to win and you sign players, your value of your
3:04:07
franchise only goes up if and when the time comes, you're
3:04:10
ready to sell. That's what it's all about.
3:04:12
So let me so let me ask you this from from your perspective, if,
3:04:15
if you understand like what's in the clubhouse, like what what's
3:04:19
going on, you see it from a different perspective for you to
3:04:22
try to relay the game to people and, and make it relatable and
3:04:27
make it fun and have listeners have viewership and all that.
3:04:32
Is it hard? For you to.
3:04:34
As someone in your position to like, if they're not doing that,
3:04:39
like, yeah, but that's kind of it's, it's hard for me to like
3:04:43
relate a great product when I know it's not the best product
3:04:46
that we can put on the field. That's that's, you know, we're
3:04:50
an extension of trying to sell this to fans.
3:04:54
And so, you know, the bottom line when it comes, when it
3:04:58
comes to the, you know, right down to it, and I'm there, I'm
3:05:02
saying here's the two, one pitch.
3:05:05
That's, that's, that's what it comes down to for me.
3:05:07
And it's I can't dress it up any better than it is because fans
3:05:12
are fans know what the numbers are.
3:05:14
They know what the wins and losses are.
3:05:16
They're watching the games of the team is successful or not
3:05:20
successful. So, you know, I'm either the
3:05:23
bearer of good news, I'm the bearer of bad news, you know,
3:05:27
and from a broadcaster standpoint, you know, I've spent
3:05:30
a lot of years calling teams that were not successful.
3:05:33
I could have said bad teams, but I said teams that were not
3:05:36
successful on the field. So then the goal for me and, and
3:05:41
I said this to my in 2005, the Nationals could have won 1000
3:05:45
games or lost 1000 games. People were so excited to have
3:05:48
baseball, they didn't care. And then the team in June ran
3:05:52
off 10 wins in a row. They went 20 and six.
3:05:55
They were, they were 50 and 31 at the midway point.
3:06:00
And it were a team that nobody expected to do anything.
3:06:03
And they were getting huge crowds, averaged over 40 /
3:06:06
40,000 a game first half of the year at RFK Stadium, which was
3:06:10
pretty much a dump, you know, not a good place to watch a
3:06:14
game. But for people who remembered
3:06:16
baseball when they had it, they, they didn't care.
3:06:18
They were excited to go there and, and see games.
3:06:21
And so you had a honeymoon period.
3:06:23
They went 31 and 50 the second-half of the season, fell
3:06:27
out of the wild card race in September and finished 81 and
3:06:30
81, fifth place, 500 people were still happy, you know, but
3:06:34
that's, that's not going to, you know, that's not going to last.
3:06:37
And it didn't. And, you know, the second or
3:06:40
third year, I said to my partner, we're going to have to
3:06:42
find a way to tell stories and make these broadcasts
3:06:45
interesting because people are not going to tune in for for
3:06:49
wins because this team's not going to be good enough while
3:06:51
they're while they're building. So we have to, you know, get
3:06:56
into, you know, where the players are from trying, you
3:07:01
know, find out different things, stories to tell because it's got
3:07:04
to be about more than just a game.
3:07:06
But you know, now where the Nationals are, a team that won
3:07:10
in 2019, they had great teams from 2012 all the way through
3:07:15
winning the World Series 2021, expiring contracts.
3:07:20
They fall off in July. They trade everybody away and
3:07:23
have been in a rebuild since. So you have a new, entirely new
3:07:27
front office now with the 35 year old president of baseball
3:07:30
operations. You know, the first day of the
3:07:32
winter meetings they put out a statement to fans talking about
3:07:36
the kind of club he wants to build and wants young kids to
3:07:41
fall in love with baseball the way he did growing up in San
3:07:45
Francisco, which was a team he grew up watching.
3:07:47
That one three World Series in what, 5 or 6 years with Bruce
3:07:52
Boking and those teams in San Francisco from 2010 to 2014.
3:07:59
OK, that you fall in love with the winner.
3:08:01
That's how it happens. That's why there's that's why
3:08:03
there's Yankees fans all over the country that go to games
3:08:06
when the Yankees. Are on the road.
3:08:08
Because they became such huge fans of an iconic franchise,
3:08:11
especially after they won four World Series in, in a short span
3:08:15
of, of time in, in the late 90s, early 2000s and so, and then
3:08:21
another one in 2009. You know, so when it comes to
3:08:25
it, you know, you have a new front office from top to bottom,
3:08:29
a new manager and you've stated the type of chemistry you want
3:08:31
to build and a team you want fans to fall in love with.
3:08:35
But these fans are ready for someone to be signed and try
3:08:38
and, and build a winner. You're trying basically, you're
3:08:41
asking for a honeymoon period. That's a tough thing at this
3:08:44
point. All right, Charlie, we're going
3:08:47
to do. We have a game.
3:08:48
You're you're a trivia guy. We're going to get you involved
3:08:53
in. This is the first time you've
3:08:54
ever done this before. We call this trivia game Tic
3:08:57
Tac. No tick.
3:08:58
Tick. Morris.
3:09:01
Right in the butt. We get the prizes, cheat because
3:09:05
they're stolen. No.
3:09:09
No, no. No, no, no.
3:09:16
All right, ladies, each. Other going wrong?
3:09:18
We have a wonderful, wonderful game.
3:09:21
And Charlie's never done Tic Tac.
3:09:22
No, it's a trivia game and we call it Tic Tac.
3:09:24
No, because somebody always says no and Speedy is going to be
3:09:30
leading this trivia game. Are you ready, Speedy?
3:09:33
I am. All right, let's go.
3:09:35
All right, so we'll start. Good thing I had some extra
3:09:37
baseball. Was prepared for this.
3:09:39
We'll start with a baseball one I've had saved for since the MVP
3:09:41
stuff came out. So Barry Bond and Showy Otani
3:09:45
have won four or more MVPS. Bonds won seven.
3:09:48
But there are three players that have won exactly 3 or 4 players
3:09:51
have won exactly 3 MVPS that were National League players.
3:09:55
Name two of those guys. 3 MVPS all National League MVPS you're
3:10:03
saying? National League guys.
3:10:04
And they won three of them. They won three exactly, yes.
3:10:09
Bonds is one, right? No, no, Bonds won seven.
3:10:12
These are the guys that have won exactly 3 MVP's.
3:10:15
So not Bonds, not Shoei Otani, who won four.
3:10:19
OK. Exactly 3.
3:10:20
Yep. We go go really far back on
3:10:28
this. Some of them, Some of them go
3:10:30
back to the 50s. Yes, and 1 is.
3:10:33
Stan Mutual. Yep.
3:10:35
That's one. There's one and there's one kind
3:10:39
of seventies, 80s, and there's one that's 2000s.
3:10:43
All right, I got I my guess was right.
3:10:44
So we just need to get one more and we get the point.
3:10:47
Yep, and looks like Java disappeared.
3:10:51
He said he's literally, yeah, he's his.
3:10:53
Internet's acting up. Let's say you said a 70s.
3:11:00
There's one like seventies 80s guy, one more 50s hour on.
3:11:04
Hank Aaron. Nope, not Hank Aaron.
3:11:09
I have no clue. You want me to guess for some
3:11:16
for you, Tommy? Yeah, I'll give you my guess.
3:11:19
All right, so 70s National League, they all the MVPS are in
3:11:23
the National League. They didn't couldn't have gotten
3:11:25
it one one of them in the AL or anything like that They're.
3:11:28
All in the National League. OK, wow.
3:11:36
Not Hank Aaron. That's tough.
3:11:42
Oh, no, it would have been. I already got the old one.
3:11:46
Johnny Bench. It's not Johnny Bench.
3:11:51
Good guess though. Taking somebody off the Big Red.
3:11:56
Machine. Right.
3:11:57
Yeah. No, there's not anyone on that
3:12:01
team. No, it's a good guess though.
3:12:05
National League, Wow, I, I don't think I'm going to get that one,
3:12:11
he said. There was a couple of more
3:12:12
recent ones though. There was one.
3:12:14
There was one 2000s era player. Oh.
3:12:19
Jeez, pools anyone from the pirates?
3:12:23
Nope. It.
3:12:26
Pools, fish. Got it all right.
3:12:27
Fish with both of them. Albert pools.
3:12:30
Albert Pools, Yeah. You.
3:12:31
Guys were able. To get all right, Cardinals.
3:12:35
OK, so here we go. This is how we play the game.
3:12:38
Everyone has an icon. Charlie.
3:12:40
Here's your icon for tonight. Did we get the 70s Eighties one?
3:12:46
Oh, Speedy, tell us the ones that we didn't get.
3:12:48
So the the other 50s one was Roy Campanella and then the the 70s
3:12:55
eighties one was Mike Schmidt. Oh wow, should have gotten that
3:12:59
one. All right, so I got the center
3:13:02
square. Next question, Speedy all.
3:13:04
Right, we'll go to and Edwin Diaz theme question.
3:13:07
So he had the he's tied for second in the American League
3:13:10
all time with his 57 save season back in 2018, the year before
3:13:15
the Mets traded for him. He is tied with what American
3:13:18
really believer that did it in 1990. 57 saves, Yep.
3:13:25
In 199057. Saves Bobby and Charlie gets.
3:13:30
US. Very.
3:13:31
Good. All right, that's awesome.
3:13:35
I would have never gotten that one.
3:13:38
Here it is, Charlie. Where do you want to put the
3:13:41
piece? We got to make tic tac toe.
3:13:43
So you tell us that bottom corner.
3:13:48
Take a corner. Yep.
3:13:49
All right here we go right here all right, Speedy, you got to
3:13:53
get what you got to give us your hard one.
3:13:54
Now you got to block us. We're.
3:13:55
Going to shift a little basketball for this one.
3:13:57
So LeBron James that just recently had his 1900 and 27297
3:14:03
games streak broken where he scored double digit points in a
3:14:06
game. So the last time he did not do
3:14:08
that before just recently against the Raptors was on
3:14:11
January 6th, 2007 when he did it against what East Coast team?
3:14:16
Oh come on, that is literally we just have to randomly guess the
3:14:21
right team that he played was his rookie.
3:14:24
Was that that? I'm assuming that's his rookie
3:14:25
year, no? 2007.
3:14:26
No, 2007 you said so he had a single point game like 3 years
3:14:31
into his career. So he had like a really bad
3:14:32
game. I guess he'll start off, I don't
3:14:35
know with. The Knicks.
3:14:37
It's not the Knicks. No, he only he never scored less
3:14:40
than 30 against the Knicks. It's never happened.
3:14:47
I don't know. You said East Coast, so Boston.
3:14:54
No, Charlie. Guess the East Coast.
3:15:01
I'm going to guess Detroit. Nope.
3:15:05
That's more Midwest. Still East Coast.
3:15:09
It's not East Coast, it's in the middle of the country.
3:15:11
It's East Coast. Michigan's not East Coast.
3:15:15
Shut up, fish. It's literally an East Coast
3:15:20
team. Yes, it's an East Coast team
3:15:23
that held LeBron James the single digits.
3:15:31
I know when this happened the other day I was trying to they
3:15:34
mentioned it the last time he had a single digit game.
3:15:43
Oh, I I think I might have figured it out, I think.
3:15:46
I have a team 2 now but I don't I I already.
3:15:49
Guessed Boston. Did we say Boston?
3:15:50
I said Boston, Miami. It is not Miami Fish.
3:15:56
What was your what was your hunch that you just got?
3:16:00
I think it might be. I know it wasn't Washington.
3:16:03
It was not Washington. That would have been a funny
3:16:04
coincidence if it was. Though is that the Dwight Howard
3:16:08
Orlando team? No, Goody would have had.
3:16:11
Goody would have had too much fun with that.
3:16:12
No, it was actually the at that time.
3:16:14
New Jersey Next. I was going to say that I don't
3:16:16
know. Oh my God.
3:16:19
Well, Speedy, you earned that one that that sufficiently
3:16:22
stumped all of us. I'm assuming we're going for the
3:16:25
block here. Yes, we are.
3:16:28
All right, Speedy, next question.
3:16:30
Let's keep it moving. Some college football for this
3:16:32
one. So the recently hired Matt
3:16:33
Campbell got the Penn State job, turned down a director of player
3:16:38
personnel job in 2003 for what NFL team that won a Super Bowl?
3:16:44
Say that all over again. I'm sorry.
3:16:45
So Matt Campbell in 2003, the new head coach for Penn State,
3:16:48
previously Iowa State head coach, turned down a director of
3:16:51
player personnel job in 2003 for what NFL team that won a Super
3:16:55
Bowl in the 21st century, he. Turned down the job.
3:17:00
Well, that rules out The Jets. I'm going to say during that
3:17:09
time won a Super Bowl. The Eagles not.
3:17:17
The Eagles. Damn.
3:17:21
They won a Super Bowl after he turned them down.
3:17:25
Yes. All right.
3:17:27
I thought you were trying to pull a fast one on me here who's
3:17:39
gone through a bunch of upheaval.
3:17:40
That's what also won, and it wouldn't be like a great
3:17:46
franchise if you turned it down, right, Raiders?
3:17:58
They did not win in the 21st century.
3:18:00
Oh that's I thought they won in. No, they didn't win.
3:18:04
They lost that super. Bowl.
3:18:05
That's as bad as me picking Detroit.
3:18:08
That's why I asked in the 1st place.
3:18:09
I don't even know why I said no. It is not as bad as you not
3:18:12
knowing where in the country. Detroit is.
3:18:14
You, you not knowing where Detroit is is.
3:18:18
Significantly worse, I said right, No, it's not the fact
3:18:21
that. You.
3:18:22
You are out of your mind if you don't think that's.
3:18:24
Worse in the 21st century. You not knowing no geography
3:18:27
fact, the fact of our country. The fact that they have.
3:18:30
Puzzles for like 6 year olds here.
3:18:32
Here's the puzzle. I'm tired and I don't want to
3:18:34
listen to your pig now. You're the one fighting.
3:18:37
No, you're the one that actually said that the Raiders had won
3:18:41
something in the 21st century when they have.
3:18:43
It I was trying to think of a crap franchise that a guy like
3:18:47
Campbell, who must have been in his 20s at the time, would turn
3:18:51
down as opposed to not knowing where Detroit is.
3:18:57
I think the 21st century, you picking the Oakland Raiders is
3:19:00
absolutely pathetic. That's well, I disagree with
3:19:03
you, I think yours. I disagree.
3:19:04
The last time they. Were in, but we can agree to
3:19:06
disagree with Rich. Canon 2025 gets the.
3:19:09
Ball almost 2026. That was the last time they even
3:19:11
got close so. That's the one I was thinking of
3:19:14
and for some reason I I don't know why they.
3:19:16
Didn't win I. Remember the Barrett Robbins
3:19:18
disappearance? That Super Bowl?
3:19:20
The stairs like All Pro Center that never played again after
3:19:23
that I'm. Speedy.
3:19:25
I'm going to say the Broncos. It's not the Broncos, so.
3:19:28
Who is it? It's Charlie has a guest left.
3:19:34
Wild guest Charlie, I have. A team now that.
3:19:38
I'm thinking of, I will say Carolina.
3:19:44
And it's not Carolina. Carolina.
3:19:46
Fish. Kind of.
3:19:47
Yeah, Fish kind of redirected. It actually was a great
3:19:50
franchise. It was.
3:19:52
The really what it? Was the Patriots.
3:19:55
So wait, the Patriots, they offered a 20 year old.
3:19:59
They offered because he in 2003? Like isn't he only in his early
3:20:05
40s? Matt can't this guy like he
3:20:07
would have been like 21. Yeah, something like that.
3:20:10
He's definitely young still. He is 46, so I guess he would
3:20:15
have. Yeah, he would have been. 20 it
3:20:17
would have been like 2 years out of college time.
3:20:19
Yeah, and he turned it. Down what?
3:20:21
Who's impressive enough two years out of college to be
3:20:24
named? You know what?
3:20:26
Who knows with the way that they did stuff.
3:20:28
It's the Patriot way, I guess. Speedy.
3:20:30
Speedy. Where do you want to go all?
3:20:33
Right, let's go. Oh, whoops, that's not the right
3:20:37
one. That's the one with you dancing.
3:20:40
That one over like a fart in church.
3:20:46
Breaking. News I.
3:20:47
Need Brittany also let. Me, just get rid of that.
3:20:51
Breaking news, they call me the ladies man and Mr. Still your
3:20:54
girl. All right, Speedy, where?
3:20:56
All right, we will go. Let's go top right.
3:21:03
Why is that there, Speedy? Here we go.
3:21:08
All right, starting to get a little hairy.
3:21:10
All right, let's go Speedy. We'll.
3:21:12
See if you guys can get the base the last baseball 1 I have.
3:21:15
So obviously Pete Alonso getting the biggest contract in Orioles
3:21:19
history. We know all about the Chris
3:21:20
Davis debacle too as the other bad contract in Orioles history.
3:21:24
Besides those two players, who got the next highest?
3:21:30
The next? Biggest contract for the
3:21:32
Orioles? Yep, besides Chris Davis and
3:21:35
obviously Pete Alonso just signed.
3:21:40
How far back are we going? Not as far, not that far.
3:21:47
Miguel Tata. Nope.
3:21:50
That's a good guess. That's a good guess.
3:21:55
Brady. Anderson.
3:21:57
Nope. Steroid.
3:22:01
Cash in on that steroid. I mean, Luke, 50 home run
3:22:06
season. All right, Maybe it's more
3:22:11
recent. Maybe it's like I'm going to say
3:22:13
Adam Jones. That's correct, yeah.
3:22:17
All. Right.
3:22:20
All right, Speedy, we're going to block you.
3:22:21
All right. Next question all.
3:22:28
Right. So you guys brought it up in
3:22:29
Deuce of the Day, Phillip Rivers.
3:22:32
They call Cam Newton debacle. So Cam Newton's MVP season,
3:22:35
Phillip Rivers leading receiver that year was not a running, was
3:22:40
not a receiver, was either a running back or a tight end.
3:22:43
Name this player. I'll name the first one, Antonio
3:22:46
Gates. It's.
3:22:47
Not Antonio. Gates So then it's the running,
3:22:49
the Hall of Fame running back. It's the Hall of Fame running
3:22:53
back. 2015 Oh no 2015. Oh, you said you said old 2015.
3:22:58
Yeah, I don't know. I don't.
3:22:59
Yeah, 2015. So then I didn't run.
3:23:02
It back. Was Eckler on the team then?
3:23:05
No. No, no, no.
3:23:07
Titan running. Back.
3:23:10
Well, it wasn't. Gates.
3:23:12
No, it's it's only 2015. Tomlinson was already done by
3:23:15
then. Who?
3:23:16
The hell did they have at the running backroom then?
3:23:21
Is that like? I don't know.
3:23:27
Yeah, I have no clue. Give me give me your guess then,
3:23:30
Tommy. Yeah, I'll get fish.
3:23:32
My guess? So you're saying that it wasn't
3:23:35
Gates? So the leading receiver as far
3:23:37
as yards or receptions or both yards yards.
3:23:43
Wow. Keenan Allen was second with
3:23:46
755. And that's obviously not great,
3:23:51
but it was a running back that would have gotten that many
3:23:53
yards. That's really fascinating.
3:23:57
Who did they have? It's like on the tip of my
3:24:03
tongue. No one will get.
3:24:05
This. I mean, after Tomlinson, who was
3:24:12
their running back? So like Michael Turner or
3:24:14
something like that, Didn't we have him on the show?
3:24:16
I don't think he was a receiving threat, though.
3:24:18
No, he was. He was.
3:24:22
He was in Atlanta. Then that's right, Atlanta.
3:24:26
No. Who's the Chargers backup that
3:24:30
took over? Andy Woodhead.
3:24:32
Charlie gets it. Very good.
3:24:33
Oh, Woodhead, and I was not. Going to get that well.
3:24:36
Charlie already guessed, though. Oh, that was it.
3:24:39
Charlie got it. I'll get him that.
3:24:42
All right. Well then is game over, Charlie.
3:24:45
We have done it. All right.
3:24:49
You can check the news there. You go.
3:24:53
All right, There we go. Tic Tac.
3:24:55
No. Charlie's first Tic Tac No game.
3:24:59
All right, so we got one more segment, and since Jabba's no
3:25:03
longer with us because his computer went down, we will have
3:25:07
Charlie join us. I'm sure he has his own take on
3:25:10
this, as we call this. What's that smell?
3:25:13
Hold up, what is that smell? What's that?
3:25:19
Smell. Wow, you don't see that every
3:25:23
day. I am absolutely pissed off by
3:25:25
the Buccaneers. They have not used Bucky Irving
3:25:27
at all. Godwin has a touchdown and I'm
3:25:29
playing Godwin in my fantasy league.
3:25:32
It's just absolutely pathetic. And still no Bucky Irving.
3:25:36
Enough of Bucky Irving. It.
3:25:38
Doesn't answer me this, Errol, the Atlanta scores, it's 2820,
3:25:43
Yeah, with over 9 minutes to go. And they went for two and they
3:25:47
didn't get it. I don't understand that, but
3:25:50
also if if the Buccaneers are smart, they run the ball so they
3:25:54
run the clock out. But.
3:25:57
The analytics, the analytics say that you do do that Charlie
3:26:01
though, because like the idea is if you get it.
3:26:04
Sparked in their favor because Mayfield on the next possession
3:26:07
just got intercepted. Well, I mean.
3:26:11
Atlanta has the ball near midfield.
3:26:16
That's really interesting. Maybe this game's going up in
3:26:18
overtime or come down to that two point conversion.
3:26:20
But the idea is if they make the two point conversion, then they
3:26:23
get a touchdown and they win with the extra point.
3:26:25
If they don't make it, they still have a chance to tie with
3:26:28
getting a 2 point conversion. So technically that's a better
3:26:31
set of outcomes than just kicking the extra point, they
3:26:35
say. I wouldn't be surprised if
3:26:37
Atlanta wins this game. It's very typical.
3:26:40
Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, so it's pretty simple how you
3:26:44
play this game. We're going to go around in a
3:26:46
circle and we're going to tell you something that is happening
3:26:51
in football, baseball, hockey, basketball, and we're going to
3:26:55
tell you what it smells like. It could be anything.
3:26:57
It could be something bad, something good, whatever.
3:27:00
And we're going to tell you what it smells like after we give you
3:27:04
the take. So First things first.
3:27:06
We're going to go Speedy. We're going to go fish, we're
3:27:08
going to go poops, We're going to go Charlie going to go on me.
3:27:10
Here we go, all. Right, so I'm going to start it
3:27:12
off with CBS Sports and a 24/7 Sports College football radio
3:27:17
host and personality. Bud Elliot literally decided to
3:27:21
say it is a safety issue, putting James Madison the number
3:27:26
12 seed and Tulane the number 11 seed in the College Football
3:27:29
Playoff field. He said football is not like any
3:27:31
other sport, it is a safety issue.
3:27:33
He said that eight and five Duke deserved a spot and also Notre
3:27:37
Dame, Texas and Vanderbilt deserving spots over those two
3:27:41
group of five teams because it is a safety issue.
3:27:43
Tulane and JMU being in are avoid our charity to avoid
3:27:47
getting sued and then literally responded to some fans that took
3:27:51
shots at the SEC for scheduling schools like The Citadel and
3:27:55
stuff like that try to defend this issue when literally
3:27:58
football is the same game. If anything, it's just as
3:28:00
physical just because those teams have to play more
3:28:02
physical, including somebody like Tulane that's had some good
3:28:04
defensive lineman and linebackers drafted in the NFL
3:28:06
recently, and Jamie JMU, which has been AFCS powerhouse for a
3:28:10
while. So I don't know what you're
3:28:12
thinking. Safety issue.
3:28:13
Football is the same game. Yikes.
3:28:15
Why do you work there? You're going to make takes like
3:28:16
that. So what does that smell like?
3:28:18
It smells like a Green Wave that Tulane likes to bring, but
3:28:21
instead of a green color, it's green, filled with mold and
3:28:24
algae going all on to Bud's head.
3:28:31
So the giants I got, I actually have two giants.
3:28:35
What's that smells? We're going to combine them.
3:28:38
The first one is did you know on that wonderful missed field goal
3:28:44
by young Waku where he got his foot stuck in the ground and and
3:28:50
couldn't actually kick the ball and it looked like he got frozen
3:28:54
by a magical spell in a video game.
3:28:57
The punter, Jamie Gillen, who is the holder for the kicks, ended
3:29:01
up injuring his knee on that play and will likely miss the
3:29:05
game this week. So that play not only was one of
3:29:09
the worst plays I saw in real time, also got our punter
3:29:13
probably injured possibly for the rest of the season.
3:29:15
That is so terrible. And on top of that, listen to
3:29:20
this, this one, you know, the Giants used to have employ Brian
3:29:24
Cox, guess the same Brian Cox that made Tom Brady's career
3:29:26
possible. Brian Cox as assistant defensive
3:29:29
line coach. And he was fired by Mike Kafka
3:29:34
over a large disagreement last week over apparently Kafka
3:29:40
telling him and his assistant group that they are now sitting
3:29:44
in the back of the plane. That is some horrible optics
3:29:48
that I don't understand why the story is not being talked about
3:29:52
a little bit more. It smells like that everything
3:29:55
is wrong in the Kingdom of Mike Krapka.
3:29:59
Yes, I'm going to be calling him Mike Krapka from now on.
3:30:02
He is just as bad as the rest of them.
3:30:05
Obviously, Cox was a day ball guy, apparently.
3:30:08
And the day ball Kafka, I mean, day ball did like bully him for
3:30:12
Four Seasons straight. So I guess that that there's
3:30:15
some some retribution, but man, what an absolute stink bomb of a
3:30:21
crap show in crap town. That's what it smells like.
3:30:25
Just the most crap. You brought up Brian Cox
3:30:29
accelerating Tom Brady's career. It was funny.
3:30:32
The one Jets game I ever went to back in 2015, they were playing
3:30:35
the Patriots and they were. They were honoring MO Lewis
3:30:37
before the game. Oh my God.
3:30:41
All right, Tommy, All right. Right, so I'm going to be
3:30:43
keeping it with some wrestling. I know I did wrestling last
3:30:46
week, but this Saturday, Alex is going to be this Saturday, the
3:30:50
conclusion will be coming to an end for a specific man.
3:30:54
The last time is now, and I'm talking about the 17 time. 1 of
3:30:58
the greatest champions with the greatest wrestlings of wrestlers
3:31:02
of all time, Mr. John Cena himself.
3:31:04
You wanted to jerk me off now. This retirement tour is going to
3:31:07
be concluding on Saturday. Like I said, shout out to my
3:31:09
father's birthday on that day as well.
3:31:12
Crazy all day today going. To be concluding on Saturday.
3:31:14
Now The thing is, is that I just have to point out how somewhat
3:31:19
piss poor this retirement tour has been now ever since the last
3:31:22
year when he announced that he had 17 dates. 17 dates to go and
3:31:26
wrestle for the last time. Last time he was going to be in
3:31:29
certain countries, last time he was going to be in certain
3:31:30
cities, areas, arenas, whatnot for the last time on certain
3:31:34
paper views. Now I will say I'm not dissing
3:31:37
the retirement tour itself. I think that like I said, John
3:31:40
Cena, one of the best of all time, definitely deserves a
3:31:42
retirement tour. However, I feel as if the 17
3:31:46
dates were a lot wasted. For instance, he's fighting Goon
3:31:48
in his last match that should have been wasted instead of
3:31:50
having, I don't know, they had like tag matches with Logan Paul
3:31:54
and it was very random. So my thing is, is that I feel.
3:31:59
I get more girls than. Scoops The heel run wasn't
3:32:01
entirely all there. I feel like the the creative
3:32:04
decision actually decided to pull some of it back.
3:32:06
So my thing is, is creative. You need to Start learning how
3:32:10
to book your retirement tours a little bit better.
3:32:12
Because for the man, like I said for the last 20 years, who has
3:32:15
been one of the guys who have put WWE on blast in PG era in
3:32:20
the last 20 years or so, John Cena definitely deserved a
3:32:23
better retirement tour. But like I said, I'm not going
3:32:25
to be trash talking a retirement tour because the retirement of
3:32:28
one of the best of all time and with their a career of one of
3:32:30
the best of all time smells like roses.
3:32:32
However, this retirement tour. You're so cute.
3:32:35
Well, this retirement tour, actually, Speaking of Nathan,
3:32:37
that's just on this suck. My Indo.
3:32:40
Errol obviously loves so much. The smell of his retirement tour
3:32:44
smells like Lisa Ann's Grobar trusty aunties.
3:32:47
Grobar I love Lisa Ann so. There we.
3:32:52
Go. All right, Charlie, what do you
3:32:54
got for us? Well, I was.
3:32:56
I wasn't prepared for this. So you you need something that
3:32:59
stinks, right? Something that stinks.
3:33:01
Give us something that. Stinks.
3:33:02
It could stink nicely sometimes. You could do a nice one.
3:33:06
You smell like roses. The Mets over the last few days,
3:33:10
I mean, what's things what? Does it smell like?
3:33:14
I mean, nothing tops. Nothing tops losing Edwin Diaz
3:33:19
and Pete Alonso in consecutive days.
3:33:21
That's not beatable. You want my cream pie?
3:33:26
That's a show end there, really. My rear end is burning.
3:33:32
There you go, that's what it smells like if.
3:33:39
It's for N Burning after he tries to put on Lisa Ann's
3:33:41
panties. That's true all.
3:33:42
Right. My God the.
3:33:44
Final. Mine was short.
3:33:45
Mine was. Short and sweet, that.
3:33:47
I can't come up with anything that stinks.
3:33:50
More. I've got a good one.
3:33:51
I got a good one. My final What's that smell goes
3:33:54
to? Finally, Jeff Kent getting into
3:33:57
the Hall of Fame. But now Donnie Baseball's got to
3:34:01
wait until 2028 for the committee to actually look at
3:34:06
him again and vote him into the Hall of Fame.
3:34:09
This guy in a 5 to 6 year span has some of the best numbers
3:34:12
we've ever seen an infielder have.
3:34:15
How many Gold Gloves does this guy have to win?
3:34:17
How many hitting, batting titles did he, this guy had to win in
3:34:21
the time that he did it And, and really with a Yankee team that
3:34:25
was really that bad. And this guy did everything.
3:34:29
He was the Yankee, he was the captain, he was everything.
3:34:32
Donnie Baseball should be in the Hall of Fame and should be
3:34:36
inducted in Hall of Fame, including the one and only the
3:34:39
chief himself, the general. Yes, you know, I'm talking about
3:34:44
the one, the only Mr. Steinbrenner who's still not in
3:34:48
the Hall of Fame. 2 guys that should be inducted into Hall of
3:34:51
Fame. It's not there.
3:34:52
You know what it smells like? It smells like Bud Selig's ass
3:34:56
when he takes a dump. OK, how is Bud Selig in the Hall
3:35:00
of Fame and George Steinbrenner isn't this guy allowed steroids,
3:35:06
allowed everything to go on and he gets away with it because
3:35:08
Robbie Manford was allowing this guy.
3:35:13
And actually, as soon as Rob Manfred gets into position to
3:35:16
get his his protege, Well, whatever Bud Sealick was his,
3:35:20
you know, Rob Manfred was his protege.
3:35:22
The the fact is, is that this guy's in the Hall of Fame.
3:35:25
George Stampert is not in the Hall of Fame.
3:35:27
Don Man, at least not in the Hall of Fame.
3:35:28
Makes no sense. Albert Bell should be in the
3:35:31
Hall of Fame. Just absolutely.
3:35:33
Potential. I just want to say Errol, I, I
3:35:35
agree with you, the writers missed on Jeff Kent.
3:35:39
He should have been voted in 100% when they had the chance in
3:35:42
the 1st 10 years, right? But Mattingly should be in,
3:35:47
Keith Hernandez should be in. You know, they don't, they don't
3:35:51
get them all right. And and they don't the boss,
3:35:54
they don't get them within that that 10 year period, you know.
3:35:57
George Steinbrenner saved baseball.
3:35:59
He saved baseball and then this guy's not in the Hall of Fame.
3:36:02
But Bud ceiling is as the steroid error just magically
3:36:06
happened. So it's just unbelievable.
3:36:09
It's absolutely I agree with you, Charlie.
3:36:11
There's a lot of these guys in and what I don't understand and
3:36:14
what you know, what you're trying to come.
3:36:16
By the way, Kyle Pitts had another touchdown.
3:36:18
That's three touchdowns in a game.
3:36:20
So now they need now, Now they need that.
3:36:22
Here comes the two point conversion try you were talking
3:36:25
about. Yeah, well, and that's and now
3:36:27
here's the the, you know, that's the gamble you take.
3:36:31
But now it's to tie the game. Now it's Yeah.
3:36:33
Well I'm hoping they make it because I've got the Bucs kicker
3:36:36
in my fantasy and this is just prime time for kicker points if
3:36:40
they tie it. Well, let's.
3:36:42
Let's see, this is 3 1/2 minutes left.
3:36:44
I. Want to see Bucky Irving time
3:36:46
and that's what I want to see. They're giving it to that
3:36:48
Syracuse kid at the goal line. It's not.
3:36:50
They're not giving it to Bucky at the goal line.
3:36:52
They didn't get it. They didn't get the 2.
3:36:56
Oh well, I guess I'm not getting any more kicker points.
3:36:58
Well, that means Bucky, Bucky, Bucky.
3:37:00
Give it to buck, Give it to the buck, don't you?
3:37:03
Should be, should be giving it to him right now.
3:37:05
They should be, but I don't know if that's going to happen.
3:37:08
Anyways, that's it for a show. Thank you, Charlie, for joining
3:37:11
us. You're sensational as always.
3:37:13
I want you to start coming on more, more often.
3:37:15
Right now it's the offseason. And like I said, our mentor of
3:37:19
mine, a person that I look up to and, and just the fact that you
3:37:22
came on after having a nice dinner with Mr. Ali.
3:37:26
Oh, the old Alex. I always listening to the show.
3:37:28
Alex. I want to give a shout out to my
3:37:30
my boy, all the all the fans out there that tune into our Spotify
3:37:34
and Apple. We have been in the top 200 over
3:37:36
the last past week. So all the Spotify and Apple
3:37:38
fans that TuneIn and download our our product.
3:37:42
We really appreciate you guys, all the YouTube fans.
3:37:45
It was a big day on YouTube tonight and and all the guys and
3:37:49
all the the ladies tuning in and watching our show.
3:37:51
We really appreciate you guys. Facebook, all of it, Instagram,
3:37:56
Twitter X, whatever you call it, chop in the mouth, Rolo the
3:38:00
mouth 34. Thank you to all the fans out
3:38:02
there, all the fans that TuneIn and and really support what we
3:38:05
do all around the country. We really appreciate you guys
3:38:07
and keep up the good work. My new mic, ladies and
3:38:10
gentlemen, it's very sweet. Got a good sound to it.
3:38:13
So thank you to the new mic as well anyways, and Jabba
3:38:18
Chamberlain for popping in and popping up.
3:38:20
We love you Jabba. It was a really, really, really
3:38:23
good show. Speedy, who do we have on next
3:38:24
week? All right, so quit suddenly.
3:38:26
We had Charlie coming out tonight.
3:38:28
We actually have. Charlie, come on next.
3:38:30
Week we had come on, we had by the by the way, we are moving to
3:38:34
Tuesday next week as well. Joining us at 8:45 is the guy
3:38:37
that used to play with the Montreal Expos.
3:38:39
Former Expos, Cubs, Padres and Blue Jays catcher Michael
3:38:42
Barrett will be joining us on the show at 8:45 to shout out to
3:38:46
the the Lisa Ann Lover for getting that one.
3:38:49
Oh yeah. That's and on Thursday.
3:38:52
I love Lisa Ann. Confirmed with me earlier today
3:38:54
we have Yankees reporter Brian Hoke will be coming on talk a
3:38:59
little winter meetings as well. Doo Doo pass liquor.
3:39:04
I also do want to mention as well congratulations to our
3:39:07
friend Derek as well. Derek, he, him and his wife just
3:39:10
had his first their first kid yesterday.
3:39:12
I wasn't. I wasn't invited to the wedding.
3:39:15
The Mountain Man the. Mountain Man didn't invite me to
3:39:17
his wedding. He didn't invite me to, you
3:39:20
know, be invited to that beautiful opportunity to see the
3:39:23
baby for the first time. That sounds like.
3:39:26
Dodger. That's what it smells like
3:39:28
anyways. Thank you to death, by the way.
3:39:30
Give a shout out to the Mountain family for another grandchild,
3:39:32
Steve, Mr. Steve Mountain being a grandfather.
3:39:37
Shout out to a very, a very well known person that I respect very
3:39:42
well, my agent, Brian Mountain. He's a, he's a uncle and he's a,
3:39:46
he's a father too. So shout out to the Mountain
3:39:48
family. We really appreciate all the
3:39:50
work that they do behind the scenes for me and us.
3:39:54
Anyways, that is it. It is wonderful.
3:39:57
It is sweet. It is time to go.
3:40:00
I am not singing a song. I just want to pass and maybe
3:40:05
eat some food. So good night.
3:40:06
Farewell. We will talk to you goodnight.
3:40:10
It's the worldwide sports radio network, Radio network.