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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 96: Players and Coaches Need To Look in the Mirror Following Week 4 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zam this Monday, and ty Nannie Stevens,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with me as the
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  Speaker 1: Jags fall.
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  Speaker 2: To oho and four.
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  Speaker 1: There winless this season, as they fall to the Texans
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  Speaker 1: in a game that they led and could have won
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  Speaker 1: but didn't end up that wet.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk things out.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing Number one is oh no oho and four
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  Speaker 1: for this team. Brian, We've talked about those small playoff
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  Speaker 1: chances when they were oh and three.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and four, they're pretty much nonexistent. Things are not
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  Speaker 2: looking up right now.
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  Speaker 3: No, and listen.
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  Speaker 4: Oh and four is a scenario that I don't think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people thought was possible. They thought this
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  Speaker 4: team was talented enough. They get a win in the
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  Speaker 4: month of September probably two, and when you look at it,
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  Speaker 4: that's certainly something that could have happened. But to sit
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  Speaker 4: here right now, zero and four, it unleashes a torrent
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  Speaker 4: of negativity. People aren't interested in your football team right now.
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  Speaker 4: You're coming home this week with the throwbacks that everybody
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  Speaker 4: wanted to see. Right there should be this enormous ground
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  Speaker 4: swell with Tom Coughlin going into the Pride the legends
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  Speaker 4: here if you had just one win right now, you
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  Speaker 4: could sell a win over the Colts, and we're right
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  Speaker 4: in the thick of this thing. But to watch it
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  Speaker 4: get away and John, the thing that stood out to
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  Speaker 4: me is they had fourth and goal at the one
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  Speaker 4: yard line and I doubted that they would get it,
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  Speaker 4: and they got the ball back with three fifty one
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  Speaker 4: left to play and I thought, oh, and they went
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  Speaker 4: three and out. It's almost predictable that this team is
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  Speaker 4: going to find a way not to get the job done,
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  Speaker 4: because that's what they've done the first four games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually had, believe it or not, some positive
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  Speaker 3: emails from people saying, hey, you know, they played better,
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  Speaker 3: they did good things, and they did and they've done
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  Speaker 3: good things week one or two. The problem is, this
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  Speaker 3: is not a team right now that's built to build,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I don't I'm not saying they don't
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  Speaker 3: want to build at this point, but this was not
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be a one in three or zero to four,
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  Speaker 3: even two and two coming out of the gate. It
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to do it now, and they're not doing
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  Speaker 3: the things now that you have to do to win.
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  Speaker 3: There are spots, but you know, here and there and
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  Speaker 3: improvement and spurts. That's not what this season's about, but
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  Speaker 3: the critical spots.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the part that I have the most regret for,
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  Speaker 4: the critical moments. Look, you got a fourth and goal
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  Speaker 4: at the one yard line. Whether you want them to
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  Speaker 4: kick or goal for it, you got to get the points.
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  Speaker 4: You can't come away with nothing three point fifty one
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  Speaker 4: left to play. You have two timeouts and you have
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  Speaker 4: a three point lead at your own thirty yard line,
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  Speaker 4: and you can't get a first down or two. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that's what an elite quarterback is supposed to get you.
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  Speaker 4: That's what a team that expects to win is supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be able to do. And yet in the biggest moments,
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, when the most opportunity was there,
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  Speaker 4: they haven't been able to do it.
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  Speaker 1: At leads us into big thing Number two, which is
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  Speaker 1: Trevor trouble. Brian touched on it, but Trevor also talked
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  Speaker 1: about it. There were some miss throws out out there,
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  Speaker 1: some missed opportunities that he didn't take advantage of.
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  Speaker 5: I s I have to watch it. You know, both
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  Speaker 5: both felt good coming out and obviously just missed it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, guys, at a good job today have getting opened.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they played a lot of man coverage, which
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  Speaker 5: is something you know as an offense that you'd like
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  Speaker 5: to see, you know, get your players have a chance
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  Speaker 5: to go win one on ones and as a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: you get to go, you know, push the.
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  Speaker 4: Ball down field at times.
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  Speaker 5: So uh yeah, it was just just missed a few.
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  Speaker 2: John.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of problems with this team right now,
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  Speaker 1: not just Trevor, but I think we needed more from
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  Speaker 1: Trevor yesterday and I think those two miss throws were big.
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  Speaker 1: I think the fourth and one there were plays out
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  Speaker 1: there to be had that we didn't get from him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look on the bomb to Kirk. Not every quarterback
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  Speaker 3: completes that every time. The problem is that's the moment
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  Speaker 3: we've all been talking about. Those are the moments the
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  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior missed in the first quarter. You know,
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  Speaker 3: have to hit all those but I think Trevor said
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  Speaker 3: it best. You're not going to hit them all, but
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  Speaker 3: you've got to hit more than he's hitting. There's also
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  Speaker 3: the moments there's some pocket awareness stuff, not awful yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: but still going on. As Brian alluded to at some
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  Speaker 3: point year four, contract signed, all that stuff. There's got
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  Speaker 3: to be some lifting going on, and the lifting's not
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  Speaker 3: going on.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at right now. I've had this
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  Speaker 4: conversation with people about does Treuvor have enough confidence? And
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  Speaker 4: I look at a guy and it clearly looks to
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  Speaker 4: me like he is struggling with the weight of the expectations.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, the head coach even said that the guy
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  Speaker 4: who's on the television broadcast talked about him, mentioning it
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  Speaker 4: in their production meetings that he appears to be dealing
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  Speaker 4: with something the expectations that he didn't the first couple
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  Speaker 4: of years. So I get it his confidence, But how
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  Speaker 4: about my confidence in him when the moment is there, John,
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  Speaker 4: I expect him to be able to make it all
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  Speaker 4: the time. No, I don't think he's Tom Brady. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think that he is is Patrick Mahomes. But three
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  Speaker 4: fifty one left to play, two timeouts, and you've been
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  Speaker 4: able to move the ball effectively, and you can't get
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  Speaker 4: a first down or two to salt this one away.
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  Speaker 4: My confidence in him right now is a bit shaken.
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  Speaker 4: I hope that that's just me an observer and not
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  Speaker 4: the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the shame of it is on the drive you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about Brian second and ten, he made what really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a bad throw over to Gabe Davis and the
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  Speaker 3: Texans defender made a nice play getting the book. But
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  Speaker 3: when I say that, we're talking about moments and we're
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  Speaker 3: sort of picking it apart big picture, those moments have
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  Speaker 3: to happen more. And as Brian said, you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a feeling four minutes, six minutes key situations that there
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  Speaker 3: is a surge forward. You feel like there's sort of
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  Speaker 3: dog paddling, if you will.
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  Speaker 4: And this conversation and conversations like these kai are going
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  Speaker 4: on all over town and they're not going away, and
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  Speaker 4: they shouldn't at this point in time. He's gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to fight through this. Whether it's his wife, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: his family, whether it's a coach, someone's going to have
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  Speaker 4: to help him through this very difficult stretch. And if
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  Speaker 4: they do, I believe he's capable of being reclaimed and
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  Speaker 4: being a guy that can lead this team to wins.
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  Speaker 4: But this is real adversity and personally he's got to
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  Speaker 4: get through it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all know he's capable.
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  Speaker 1: It's getting through that diversity fighting through that we've talked about,
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  Speaker 1: and that's definitely not going to end anytime soon. Because
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  Speaker 1: they're only four games into the season. Our final big
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  Speaker 1: thing today is going to be depleted defense. The defense
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  Speaker 1: played really well I think overall, especially considering all the
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  Speaker 1: injuries they've been dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: Right before the game, Devin Lloyd was scratched.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, I think we saw some impressed and plays out
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  Speaker 1: of Ventrel Miller. Monterrek Brown has been playing well as
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  Speaker 1: he stepped in, and over all, the defense I think
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  Speaker 1: did pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: It did, and I was surprised. They wrote in my
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  Speaker 4: notebook while watching the game yesterday, the defense looks a
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  Speaker 4: step slow. How many starters are missing? You know? Is
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  Speaker 4: that why? And then yet they came out john in
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  Speaker 4: the third quarter and five straight drives. They took a
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  Speaker 4: Texans offense that scored on three of their first four
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  Speaker 4: drives in the first half and made a punt And
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  Speaker 4: so I was really impressed, especially with Montterrek Brown, who
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  Speaker 4: had a rugged night on Monday Night football and struggled
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  Speaker 4: a bit early in the first half against Nico Collins,
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  Speaker 4: and the Texans really played well. Then trom Miller, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to talk about him. I think he's played terrific.
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  Speaker 4: The defense played well enough for you to win. And
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  Speaker 4: I know you look at the yards and the last drive,
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  Speaker 4: but the defense did everything they could, well almost everything
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  Speaker 4: they could. They could have got another takeaway.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it played well enough to win. I think what
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  Speaker 3: they would tell you pressure in big situations. There were
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  Speaker 3: moments where they didn't get to Stroud where they could
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  Speaker 3: have against Miami and this game, good efforts overall. At
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  Speaker 3: the same time, in that winning moment at the end,
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  Speaker 3: you allowed a long time consuming drive and then no takeaway.
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  Speaker 3: So look more than good enough to win. But I
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  Speaker 3: know they're sitting there this morning saying, man, the moments.
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  Speaker 3: Just like everything that's defined this season so far, it's
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  Speaker 3: the moments that matter, and the whole team hasn't come
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  Speaker 3: through in those moments. That's why you're only four it is.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot to look forward to as well
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  Speaker 2: going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Heinzellen left that game with a concussion, so it's
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  Speaker 1: something to consider as we look forward what they're going
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, after an OM four star avenue. No, it's kind
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  Speaker 6: of a strange question, but okay.
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  Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson asked after the game about his
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  Speaker 1: status going forward with the team as the team is
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  Speaker 1: zero to four. I haven't seen any changes yet, but
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  Speaker 1: always an option no.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, clearly it's an awkward question to ask,
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  Speaker 4: it's a tough question to answer. It's just life in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. It's not like Doug hasn't heard that before.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like every coach whose team is in a
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  Speaker 4: losing rut doesn't hear that. It's a fair question and
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  Speaker 4: he gave it an answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be a topic till it's not. It's not
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  Speaker 3: my exact hot take, but it's on those lines later.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll say, okay, all right, let's look at some
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  Speaker 1: of the film from yesterday. There were some good things
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  Speaker 1: and then there were some not so good things. So
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  Speaker 1: let's start off with this muffed Punp's felt like the
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  Speaker 1: play that the Jaguars needed, right, They're waiting for that
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  Speaker 1: sign Daniel Thomas able to recover this at the two
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  Speaker 1: yard line, give yourself a short field after you know,
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  Speaker 1: not getting anything going on offense. To get the ball
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  Speaker 1: immediately back in the red zone felt like maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is moment.
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  Speaker 4: Finally, right, And I did think when they got the
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  Speaker 4: ball that to here they were going to score. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this team had been waiting for something good to happen,
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  Speaker 4: and then of course the touchdown passed to what Brian
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior just it felt like it made sense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was a little different scenario because they sort
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  Speaker 3: of had time after this play, They had time to
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  Speaker 3: sort of gather and come in, whereas they tried to
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  Speaker 3: go tempo later in the game and just never really
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  Speaker 3: could get that momentum back from the fifty eight yarder. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was a clutch play. It was a big time play.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a big time moment to take
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  Speaker 3: advantage of it, and you felt like that it kept
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  Speaker 3: them in the game even when they had sort of
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  Speaker 3: a first half ull so huge.
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  Speaker 1: Put absolutely, especially after Monday Night football when we saw
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  Speaker 1: them get out of it so early. I felt like
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  Speaker 1: they really needed that at this point. But then Texan's
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  Speaker 1: kind of going the other way.
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  Speaker 5: C J.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud.
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  Speaker 1: That connection with Nico Collins, we saw it right out
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  Speaker 1: of the gate yesterday just I think one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty one yards they had on twelve receptions for him
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  Speaker 1: and the touchdown later on that is just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know they have a great why receiving course, so
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be somebody, but that one really hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yet, Well, you did.
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  Speaker 4: Choose, was it DeAndre Hopkins who used to beat the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars or Andre Johnson. Nico Collins is a guy that
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  Speaker 4: seemed like he could go against anyone and find any
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  Speaker 4: spot on the field and make a reception.
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  Speaker 3: It hurt, but it didn't. It felt like they kept
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  Speaker 3: it under control enough to stay in it. There's sometimes
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  Speaker 3: with a high powered offense like this that you sort
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  Speaker 3: of have to I don't wanna say, can see you
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  Speaker 3: want to give one hundred and fifty, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that they felt like this completely controlled the game
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  Speaker 3: until the very end twenty seven yarder, right, yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: stayed in it. But then again, big moments for this
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  Speaker 3: franchise this year, big moment at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did a pretty good job with I
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  Speaker 1: think some of the other receivers. Obviously Steph Diggs had
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  Speaker 1: the touchdown, but overall that held him pretty well. Had
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  Speaker 1: that touchdown there as they tied up the game. Then
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  Speaker 1: later some issues Trevor talked about, obviously connecting overthrow on Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: that issue with Brian Thomas Junior a couple of plays
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  Speaker 1: there where he was overthrown, and then also Brian not
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  Speaker 1: getting his head around maybe a rookie mistake a little
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  Speaker 1: later on. But it just hurts when you go back
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  Speaker 1: and you look at it and you're like, this completely
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  Speaker 1: changes the outlook of the game if you get that there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, again, all season long, we've been talking about it
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  Speaker 3: being a moment's sleep and the moment in the first
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  Speaker 3: half you could get seven there instead of three. The
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  Speaker 3: moment the second half of Kirk, which I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 3: see you're not going to complete every fifty yard pass.
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  Speaker 3: But think about the games when you're watching NFL live
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  Speaker 3: at night, the moments that have a team with the
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  Speaker 3: winning score on the end are the teams that make
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  Speaker 3: those plays in those moments. It's got to happen more often.
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  Speaker 3: And when he didn't hit it to Kirk, you're like
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  Speaker 3: man in the second half of the game, when you
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: feel like they've been outplayed, Brian, they had these moments
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  Speaker 3: where you could have been up ten with the comfortable victory, though,
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  Speaker 3: and it was so right there, but then it felt
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  Speaker 3: like it was never going to be there. Right.
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  Speaker 4: No, listen, you're right on and credit to I mean,
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  Speaker 4: there's all kinds of conversations about the play calling this morning,
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  Speaker 4: but the play calls got those two guys open, and
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  Speaker 4: you're not going.
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  Speaker 3: To make it express if they had those three.
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  Speaker 4: Hundred percent right And listen, those guys were both open.
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  Speaker 4: That's the part where you look at it. How do
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  Speaker 4: you get miss it if you're contested down the field
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  Speaker 4: and you got to make a really difficult catch. But
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  Speaker 4: the reason that people are having difficult that I'm having
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  Speaker 4: difficulty with those two throws is because they were both
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  Speaker 4: open and that's the elite that you expect. And if
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  Speaker 4: you've got that, listen the way the defense played in
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  Speaker 4: the second half. You're in control the whole way and
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  Speaker 4: you're not coming down to biting your nails at the end.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the frustrating thing for everybody is first
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  Speaker 3: three games. Overall. There were moments on either side, of course,
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  Speaker 3: but overall you came away with boy didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well he did yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday. There were a couple of plays, but overall you felt,
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  Speaker 3: like I've been saying all year, quarterbacks in this league,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be under pressure at times when they
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  Speaker 3: have clean that's when you got to make the play.
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  Speaker 3: You got to make the play again. I hate saying
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  Speaker 3: the word anymore.
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  Speaker 4: In the moment, well, I wrote on our final analysis
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  Speaker 4: this week on Jaguars dot Com. Look, if Daniel Hunter
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  Speaker 4: and Will Anderson are able to run like Greg Rousseau
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  Speaker 4: and Von Miller did on Monday Night Football, they're in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: He was never really in trouble. There were sad there
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  Speaker 4: were some moments. As John alluded to, the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: played pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Well, which is impressive because normally we're ragging on them,
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  Speaker 1: so that'll tell you that they did play well. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really mentioned at all, at least when I thought
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  Speaker 1: about it and looked back at some of these highlights.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look to the other side of the ball. We
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  Speaker 1: saw the holding penalty in the end zone. The defense
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  Speaker 1: was kind of holding it together, then that penalty, and
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  Speaker 1: then that led to Nico Collins touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the little things, and it's just making mistakes
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  Speaker 1: in those moments that hirshe and keeps these drives going.
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  Speaker 4: The safety play has not been great this year, and
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson is a player for whom the Jaguars have
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: tremendous admiration. They believe that he can be an the
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  Speaker 4: elite level player with the length and the height, the
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  Speaker 4: speed and the instincts. He has not played very well
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  Speaker 4: and yesterday was a great example of it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh credit the He does still play hard, yes and
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  Speaker 3: he's still a little bit of a young player, so
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  Speaker 3: I think that they continuing to play hard as he
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  Speaker 3: gains more confidence and awareness and he'll get better. From
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  Speaker 3: that big time hit late in the game, that was
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: a great play to not get the penalty. That was
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: really a big play late, so but overall noticed safty
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: play hasn't done what they thought it would be.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead to the Jaguars other touchdowns
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: BTJ great catch to lead up to that catch from
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, who.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Had a pretty good day.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I think this is why gets so frustrated with Trevor,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: because you're like, I know you can make that throw.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I can you make these throws?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Tremdous catch from Brian Thomas Junior as well, and then
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you don't get it when you need it.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: It feels like it was a great throw and this
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: led to a touchdown, but unfortunately really the only extended
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: touchdown drive they had when they had an opportunity for.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I say two or three more plus a couple of
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: plays like that ignite your offense, right, I think you'd
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: think with three to fifty one left playing with making
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: some throws like these two, that you're able to make
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: some throws and get it first down. That's the part,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: is you think that you're ready to ignite and it
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: just fizzles out.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes, well we'll see it in a minute.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about Tank Spigsby
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: gets that huge run, right, rips it off, almost makes
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: it in, and then they give the ball back to
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: him twice after that in that same drive which he
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: just ran almost sixty yards, So obviously he's tired. I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: understand you want to give the ball back to him,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: let him get the touchdown. But I felt the second
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: time on second now when they.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Gave it to him, it didn't work the first time.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe we bring in some fresh legs something like that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I know, revision of history on Monday.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: But still, well, I'll leave it with Fred Taylor, who
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: told us on postgame radio last night. They even him right.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And Fred's always like I could have scored on that one.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I would have scored on that one. He said, sixty yards,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I'm gassed. I need a break. Fred never admits that, right,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: but yep, I need I would have given him the break.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Trevor alluded to it. They've had success
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: before where they go quick in that situation. The defense
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: expects you to be trying to sve and trying to
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: get set. They've had success catching them on their heels. So,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: as you said, Ryan, the first one you sort of got,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I thought you should have scored on the fifty eight yarder.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not a running back, but I felt like he
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: will probably look back at that play and think, I
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: just should have stuck it in on the fifty eight yarder.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been leaning so far outside. That's nitpicking. Still,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: get even with that. The great teams that are winning
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: overcome not scoring on the big play and score in
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that moment. And in the NFL, you're not putting the
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: game away at that point. But boy, you're making a lot.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Of well, I mean the Texans didn't, right. I mean,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: the Texans got the big twenty seven yard play to
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins, and then they went and put it in
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the end zone the first and goal inside the five
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: yard line. They moved their way down when they needed it,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: they got it done. That's the difference in the game.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: On that same drive, Trevor going for on fourth and one,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Doug makes the call they're going to go for it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: on fourth and they get the quarterback drawn and it
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: gets stuffed right there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Where were you on it?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised I went for it on fourth down.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little surprised at what they chose to do
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: You know, if I.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Guess if it works, then you're not surprised, then you're
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: happy with it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: But the photocosta, he doesn't.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: You know, shove Brandon Sheriff into the gap.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing to not you shove, but yeah
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: throw then it probably works and he walks in. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: conceptually the play probably should have worked.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I I knew Doug was gonna go for I knew
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: he was going to go for it right, just like
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I knew two years ago he was going to go
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: for the two point conversion. He wasn't going to try
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: and coax his team in a losing streak to win.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: He was going to go for the win. However, you know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: if you're up six, you get the ball back with
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: three fifty one left to play. Now you just need
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: to drive for a field goal, and now you make
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: it a nine point game. That's good strategy. Chasing points
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: sometimes doesn't always work. Not on the first play of
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. I think, with my team not playing well,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: my quarterback not playing well, I kicked the field goal.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I trust my defense, which by that way had held
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the Texans to what fifteen yards in the third quarter.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I'm probably playing the more conservative angle there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I've always said I would kick in a lot of
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: the situations where Doug goes for it. But I sort
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: of all this two years ago. This is who he's
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: gonna be. So I'll play devil's advocate and say you're
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: up three, You've just had the fifty eight yard or
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: where for a moment for your team was like, you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: gonna clinch it. I wonder if he wasn't thinking we're
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: gonna be deflated either way, so we need to get
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: points here. I may have been the thinking. Again, I'm
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: a old school guy. I kick, but I think it
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: may have been his thinking.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: And I do know how he is, and so I
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: fully expected that he was gonna do that. He wants
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: to go for the win, and if they score, everyone
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: celebrates him. He knows this right and they don't, so
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: you questioning him. That's the nature of the game.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go that final drive with the Texans getting the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: ball back a little less than two minutes to go,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Nico Collins that big catch we've alluded to, and then
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: also the Google Wallet touchdowns. It's frustrating because I felt
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like when they got the ball, you were like, they're
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: gonna go score a touchdown, and having that feeling having
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a quarterback and an offense that you trust is something
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you want to have. And I just didn't feel that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when the Jaguars had it with you know what, less
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: than four minutes left and they just needed a first
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: down or two to kind of run the clock down.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But when the Texans got it, you were like, they're
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: going to go score right now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a fair feeling. And I had the feeling
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: as well. And that's a feeling you get when you're
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: around a team has lost nine again. Yeah, so you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: just sort of feel like, here we go again. I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: think it's probably human nature that that creeps into the
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: players just a bit. You need a win to snap
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: out of it. And I wish I had more. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: keep saying that I wish I had more, But that's
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: how it feels.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So that's why I can't add anything. I except that
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: the defensive played had kept the Texans off the scoreboard
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: the entire second half, and they gave the ball back
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: with three point fifty one left to play to the
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: highest paid player. And I know people want to but
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: the elite franchise quarterback thinking we've done our job. Now
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: they've got to go back out there and stop them again.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Not sure they had enough gas.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Well did it multiple times?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Like five series in the second half where you force
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a punt, and I think about it. The offense had
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: one touchdown and a couple of misses. Ever been a
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: team would tell you there were ample opportunities. To think game,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: the way the league is structured now, offense centric ample opportunities.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The defense did more enough to win.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: They broke surf, right, You've always said that you got
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: to break serf here and there. They broke serve with
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: three fifty one left to play, and that's the moment
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the light was shining, go win and they couldn't.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And there's been some like I didn't feel it during
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the game. There's been some people talking about, well they
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: should have run when they had the ball with three
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: fifty one. They ran on first down, and I don't
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: think the two play calls we're you know, in this
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: day and age, you could have drained clock, but two minutes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: If they drained clock, could get the ball back with
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: two minutes left. It's hard to play drain clock in
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that situation. In this day and age, You've got to
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: complete some passages to keep the chains moving and the
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: clock moving. So I don't necessarily think play call in
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that situation was negligent, whatever word you're looking for. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: thought it was okay in that situation.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: They just weren't efficient, right right. They didn't execute.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: They did not execute.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hear Doug's thoughts on play calling coming up
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: after the break, and we'll give you our hot takes
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 22:47
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• 23:02
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• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Is there any chance you take the headset over?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: It's just change this thing up.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: For what I thought he'd called a great game. We
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: as coaches, we can't make the We can't go out
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: there and make the plays.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: It's a two way street. So you know, you guys
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: can sit here and point the finger all you want,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: and that's fine. Point it right at me. I can
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: take it, Okay, I can take it. So whatever you
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: wanna ask me, say whatever, right, go ahead.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You can.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: You can tell us that you're introductory news conference a
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: couple of years ago.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: If you not if it's not working, if it's not
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: in rhythm, whether it's your plays or not that you've.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Hand off the play calling.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, is it just.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: One of those Maybe it's just a voids a confidence
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: you guys were cooking when you were doing it to
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: look back in twenty two. Yeah, sure, okay, I'll take
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: it into consideration.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Dug Peterson weigh in on the play calling questions after
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: John, you were there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: It was a tense terse press conference. Tense terse press
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: conferences of what you get when you're on Ford. But look,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the play calling questions aren't gonna stop. It's the reality.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Doug sees it one way, observer to see it another way.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Look, I never go to the play calling thing because
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's the low hanging fruit. I'll give you
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the best example of it. As much as I didn't
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: want them to go for it on the first play
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: of the fourth quarter, the play call wasn't the problem there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Brandon Sheriff got whipped fully Fundacossi whipped him, put him
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: in the middle and shoved it down. And then Trevor
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: couldn't get to the big gap because he didn't see it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: At least I think he didn't see it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Let's think about Yeah, Christian Kirk running wide open and
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Ryan Thomas running wide open. Nice call on the fifty
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: eight yard run. By the way, you're third and three.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: If that gets stuffed, oh you're an idiot. If it works,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: nobody thinks about the fact that it was a good
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: play call, So which is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Why play calling is such a misnomer.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Right, but it's a topic. Oh it's good. It's not
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: going to not be a topic.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Well, because it's what people see, and most people don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: go back and watch the tape, watch the video and see, oh, well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: if he just makes this block he scores, maybe that
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: wasn't a bad play call. You can't expect people are
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: going to do that. So play calling isn't going to
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: go away. And Doug could make it go away by
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: saying it's finny, it's all on me, which he kind
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: of did yesterday. But this whole play calling thing has
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: been because he has kept it oblique.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, making into a bigger thing that need to be.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: All right, we got our firehouse hot takes for you today, Brian,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: what's your hot take?
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: You up?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: First?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Ventrel Miller made his first NFL start yesterday, and look,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: he should stay in the lineup even when Foy a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Lua Khun comes. I think he made more plays in
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: one game than I saw from Devin Lloyd in four games.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I get it. Devin Lloyd's the first round pick, He's
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: six three to forty. He runs, he's a good player.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But Ventrel Miller is instinctual. That's his first start, he
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: made eleven tackles. I would argue John, with respect to
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Ray Robertson Harrison is big sack that Ventro Miller was
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: the best player on defense yesterday, and so he's got
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: to stay in the lineup. He's that talented.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be hard pressed to say how he
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: comes out. I think he starts, you know, with Devin
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Lloyd this week, and I think once foy he comes back.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: You got to keep it. A troll on the field and.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: A third round pick who spent his entire rookie year
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: on I ar with an achilles, and you know as
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: well as I'm do, there's lots of players who don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: ever recover from the achilles, and.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: That's the worst injury these days than the ACLA. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: credit to him for staying with it. And as you said,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: a very instinctive player and a guy who clearly, I
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: think it was Traves Etn after the game, talked about
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: how much energy they.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Come to they this is a.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Kid who loves being on the field, loves being in
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the moment. Keep using that word the moment, but I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: think the moment for that instinctive, care free guy. Maybe
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: guy they need in the field right now.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: By the way, a part of a draft class. Anton
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Harrison played better yesterday. Tank Bixby had the big run.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Brenton Strange made plays, Entrel Miller made plays, Tyler Lacy
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: was on the field.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Brent Strange might be the best balker on the team. Yeah, absolutely,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: regardless of the physician.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: That draft class from a year agost is even though
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: it's not producing wins, it's producing some hope that this
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: team can get better.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I think you're seeing some good things from all of them.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Keeping him healthy will be key to keeping him on
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the field important going forward. John, what's your hot take
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: for him?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not that hot. Unfortunately, it's just about pride
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: now until it's not and this is sort of a
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: double edged sword. Yeah, I gotta play with pride. The
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: problem is until they win their way back into me
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: being able to talk about playoffs with a straight face.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: All you can really talk about is, hey, guys, you
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: gotta play with pride. That's not where you want to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: be at zero to four. So this is not necessarily
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a great hot take for players fans. Look, I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: want to hear it anymore about what you can do,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: what you can say the season. Yeah you can save
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the season, but until you go win a few games
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and get back into this thing, then it's about pride
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: and how much you want it, and it will be
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: tested over the next couple of weeks.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: You're at home, your fan base is, pride is wounded, right,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So how about giving them a chance to be proud again?
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And Tom Coughlin's going into the pride of the Jaguars
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, the throwback uniforms that everybody was so excited about,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: you know, how about giving this this crowd on Sunday
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and opportunity to enjoy the moment. They haven't had much.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Of that this year, if not.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And I think at a point you have to hate
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: losing more than yeah, we want to win, but you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: need to hate where you're at right now and do
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: everything you can to get out of that. And I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: think that's part of what we're dealing with is now.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I thought that yesterday.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I think they good energy.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, sometimes it's a long season. All these games are tough.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: You have to do it all the time and in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: every moment, and then the percentage to start playing away, yes,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: say they play with pride again to not making the
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: big plays and the big moments bit them and spend
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that sort of season.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Mine's a little more grander scheme. I think things are
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: at owing for right now. Changes are coming, whether we
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like them or not. And I just mean that in
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the sense of its national football. If you don't win,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: which we've heard shod Con wants to win now, there
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: will be changes. I don't know when they're going to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be what they're going to be exactly, but you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we're locked into Trevor, we're locked into certain people, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: everybody else it's like, you know, you need to kind
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of go out there and earn your position, to earn
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: your spot, and find a way to make this work
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: because we're not going to see.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: This same group of people again next year after this.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised and I'm just guessing here. If
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the play calling situation isn't ironed out this week, right,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: the owner said he wanted it clearly. Doug is tired
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: of dealing with that question. You can make it go away,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: that would be a simple one. I'm taking the play
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: calling back and it's now on me, so let's just
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: focus it all here. I think he's had a hand
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: in the play calling all alone. All right. The two
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: men are of such a close relationship that they don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: work absent of each other on the offensive side of things.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: But I think you could throw this out there, right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: it's the sacrificial issue. Throw it out there, Doug says,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: it's me. Stop pointing to Press. I got this. I
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: need Press to work with the quarterback and get him right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm not.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if he wants it to go away, that's
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: what he does.
• 30:26
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• 30:30
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  Speaker 5: It's frustrating, it's not going our way and we weren't
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: able to find a way to win this game. We
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: had some mistakes out there. Yeah, but we just have
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: to stay together. It's gonna teach us something, it's gonna
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: prepare us for the future. And stay positive. I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: there were things that we did well today and we
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: just have to do more of it, you know. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think we need to. You don't need to
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: blow everything up and start over like we you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: we got good players, we had, we have a good scheme. Offensively,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: we had great things today and we just got to
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: consistently make those plays. You know. I thought we had
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: a lot of opportunities. So just keep keep working. That's
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the that's the message.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: To keep working this week, keep working this week.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be the Colts game this weekend, John
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: but not Knna. Anthony Richardson looked like.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: It might be Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's capable. And look, just to clarify here,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: you can win with Trevor. They've shown that they were
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: nine and eighth the last two years. Could have been better,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: it could have been worse. Whatever, you can win with it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: It's not I'm getting people, oh he can't do it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Isn't that you can. He's just got to do.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Look, I he is in the center of the blueprint
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: for this franchise, and and the salary cap now underscores
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: not more than ever. It's more important right now to
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: figure out how to get him back playing at a
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: level that you can win and that you do win.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: That's the most important thing. He is this quarterback. He
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: is this franchisees quarterback and will be. He's got talent,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: he can play. What's going on? Figure it out? You
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: got to get him back.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: What do we have going on for the Colts game?
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  Speaker 2: For Tom?
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  Speaker 4: I actually sat with Tom and had a wonderful conversation
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: that could have gone on for hours. It's about thirty
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: minutes that will debut point this week, and I'm looking
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: forward to being on the stage with him at halftime
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to introduce him. I think I introduce Shod who introduces him?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: But to me who was here in the early days,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: John was here too. Do have gone through all of
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: that with him. I'm really excited and I hope people.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Will come out absolutely a special day.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I avoid to it. Yeah, why is er?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: We'll see you a little bit later on this week.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: We'll look ahead later this week at the Colts game of.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: What was got going on?
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