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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Hornets Make a Trade & National Media Praises Bryce · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como esta?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mike and Bo.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful work Wednesday, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be the butthead. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
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  Speaker 1: They're the best. I love those guys. I love a
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  Speaker 1: big old sloppy whopper. All right, one time for the
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  Speaker 1: one time.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Mack and Bo Show on Mack
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  Speaker 2: and Bo Radio.
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  Speaker 3: Good Wednesday morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. It is time to
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  Speaker 3: do the dang thing. Hump Day edition of the Mac
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  Speaker 3: and Bone Show. One day closer to getting to watch
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  Speaker 3: the explosive Carolina Panther offense again. I'm a bit excited
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  Speaker 3: about that, but we got time.
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  Speaker 1: We got time.
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  Speaker 3: In the meantime, the Panthers bring back a familiar name,
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  Speaker 3: potential return man in the near future here, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: The Hornets make a trade, adding more shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Man, they got some shooting. So we'll talk.
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  Speaker 3: About that on the show here off the rip as well.
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  Speaker 3: We've got Shane Beamer getting a little testy, getting a
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  Speaker 3: little feisty at a presser. We've got Dabo holding court.
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  Speaker 3: He had an over an hour press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez. He's feeling frisky after that win over the Heels.
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  Speaker 1: Did he bring the resume back out?
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  Speaker 3: No, everything's good now. It's a happy press conference, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: They rallied to beat the Tar Heels, so all's good,
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  Speaker 3: at least for this week, for the Tigers before they
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  Speaker 3: go to Cal. The media, the national media, just love
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  Speaker 3: it on Bryce Young. That's good to hear. Like a
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  Speaker 3: big old sloppy whopper. So you like that, don't you, Bob?
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  Speaker 3: It gives me goosebumps when you say that. I do
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  Speaker 3: like a good sloppy. It's a very sloppy burger.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's big.
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  Speaker 3: It's like hubcap size, it feels like to me, and
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  Speaker 3: it's very sloppy, but I don't mind it.
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  Speaker 1: I can get down into the slop, man. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: a pig. You can have something called a Whopper and
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  Speaker 1: it not be just a... That's true. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: a sauce on the shirt special there. Like, it's all
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  Speaker 1: over the shirt.
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  Speaker 3: I was just going to say, like, I'm a big
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  Speaker 3: in-the-car eater while driving, for better or worse. It is
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  Speaker 3: impossible to eat a Whopper without going home and being like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: mrs mac look what i did to.
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  Speaker 3: My shirt and oh not again so anyway um impossible
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  Speaker 3: to avoid that situation uh so yeah we got things
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  Speaker 3: happening we got things to talk about today on the
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  Speaker 3: mac and bone show the fit dog is in the
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  Speaker 3: house as well uh the fit dog is under fire
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  Speaker 3: uh this morning bone and he doesn't seem to have
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  Speaker 3: much of a reaction to.
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  Speaker 1: It no it's it's uh in a world in a
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  Speaker 1: word um Troubling right now, honestly. So you think you
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  Speaker 1: know who did this? Oh, it's not even. It took
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  Speaker 1: me about two seconds to figure this whole thing out.
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  Speaker 3: So somebody taped to our studio window. Is that Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Brown scoring the big touchdown?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so.
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  Speaker 3: Late in the game against Carolina for Clemson. Carolina defenders
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  Speaker 3: in the background watching on. And somebody taped that to
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  Speaker 3: our window. I honestly had– I saw it, had no
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  Speaker 3: idea who did it. Bones says he cracked the case
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  Speaker 3: in two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have the character that works in the building
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  Speaker 1: that we call Tampa Tammy who just– And unhinged. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we can do justice for how wild
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  Speaker 1: she throws herself into the window yelling at us. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we said she doesn't work Monday, Tuesday. She's a Clemson
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  Speaker 1: fan as well, Clemson Bucks. How will she handle— the
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  Speaker 1: Bucs being 0-2. Losing to the Browns. Right, and the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers having a blowout win and getting some national love.
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  Speaker 1: Mack thought she would army crawl below the window so
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't see us. I didn't really think, oh, she's
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  Speaker 1: just going to ignore the Bucs and go right into
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  Speaker 1: Clemson mode. And not only is that taped to the window,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's right in Phitty's eyeline. Like, it is
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  Speaker 1: a shot right at him.
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  Speaker 3: Phitty, as an easily agitated individual, you seem very, like, just,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, not even phased by this.
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  Speaker 4: That's because, Mac, a wise man once told me a lion...
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  Speaker 4: doesn't concern himself about the opinion or the actions of
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  Speaker 4: a sheep.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that sheep just devoured a lion. That sheep's all
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  Speaker 3: over Ramsey's right now. First of all, you got the sheep. Secondly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure you were the lion. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you watched. Did you stop watching at the weather delay?
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  Speaker 4: I should have. Would have made for a much better Saturday. Mac,
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  Speaker 4: what can I say? I'm a changed man.
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  Speaker 1: I now... Is your lady changing you, calming you down?
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  Speaker 4: I now seek peace in a world full of chaos.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on back there? That's a change for Monday morning.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now. Can I say
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  Speaker 1: something real quick, though, Mac, before we get rolling here?
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  Speaker 1: I view us as a great broadcasting trio. I think that...
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  Speaker 1: Finney plays the role. Matt, would you say that he's
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  Speaker 1: our Dandy Don, Meredith? Okay. I would say I'm the class,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the Frank Gifford of the operation, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you're the voice, the personality. You are Howard. Howard Cosell.
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  Speaker 1: And right now— No, well, no, I was going to
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  Speaker 1: say Howard Brosell. Brosell. Oh, okay, that's what you're setting
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  Speaker 1: up there.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, people are asking— there are people young enough that
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  Speaker 3: they're asking, who are those three people?
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football icons. Look it up, kiddies. Look it up.
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  Speaker 4: Celebrated 56 years earlier this week.
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  Speaker 1: All right, baby. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Hornets trade bone they acquire. And
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  Speaker 3: this has been one that, you know, I mentioned it Monday,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously we've been football obsessed, and we are, and
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  Speaker 3: we will continue to be football obsessed. But there was
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  Speaker 3: reports over the weekend that the Hawks and the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: were talking about this trade.
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  Speaker 1: And now it has happened.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy Heald, Ryan Nembhard, they come here to Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: And cash.
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  Speaker 3: We get some cash in the deal to Boney in
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  Speaker 3: exchange for Dorian Finney-Smith, who I honestly never thought... was
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  Speaker 3: going to be a factor here, was going to play here.
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  Speaker 3: Of all the deals we made in the offseason prior
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  Speaker 3: to this one, I had the least reaction to Dory.
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  Speaker 3: It just felt like the Suns guys, it felt like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think we want them on the wing. Allen and
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  Speaker 3: Royce O'Neal. I never felt that way about Finney Smith,
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  Speaker 3: who's coming off injury plague season.
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  Speaker 1: Even the Hornets, we talked to Charles Lee. We've... We've
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  Speaker 1: talked to many within the team. He wasn't even mentioned
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  Speaker 1: back that much within the scope of looking at the
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  Speaker 1: season by those with the team. That's why Charles Lee
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention him when he came in here. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is he not part of the plan? So, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: didn't always make a lot of sense of where he fit.
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  Speaker 1: With all of this roster.
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  Speaker 3: But what we wanted is we wanted those second-round picks
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  Speaker 3: we got just to take his contract on, and then
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  Speaker 3: we move it along, give it to somebody else. In exchange,
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  Speaker 3: we get Buddy Heald. Ryan Nembhard, there's already reports out
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  Speaker 3: there that the Hornets are probably going to release him.
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  Speaker 3: One of ESPN's hoop guys reported that. So Buddy Heald,
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  Speaker 3: your first thought is this guy. He missed 30 games
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  Speaker 3: or so with injury last year. in his own right. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but buddy healed can shoot it. And this just continues
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  Speaker 3: to add to a team bone that has shooters galore. Um,
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  Speaker 3: they are all over the damn place. You talk about
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  Speaker 3: floor spacing. You talk about being a, just adding even
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  Speaker 3: more shooting. Just when you thought we had a ton
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  Speaker 3: of it last year, we add more shooters, Alan O'Neill.
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  Speaker 3: You add, um, uh, and you add Buddy Heald. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm a bit fascinated. And then you have the aspect, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: that we still have three players that have to be
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  Speaker 3: cut to get down to the 15-man limit. So there's
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  Speaker 3: still a lot of people are wondering, is this a
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  Speaker 3: move and will there be another move? I feel like
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  Speaker 3: that's the case with every Jeff Peterson trade. Is there
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  Speaker 3: another move coming? So there's a lot of interesting questions
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  Speaker 3: to kick around. I mean, he sees a second round
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  Speaker 3: pick out there. This man can't help himself. So who
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  Speaker 3: knows what could happen?
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  Speaker 1: I was watching videos yesterday afternoon on Twitter that someone
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  Speaker 1: posted of Liam McNeely's workout where he looked great. He
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  Speaker 1: had a great summer. I was thinking, man. Could Liam
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  Speaker 1: McNeely be a guy that pushes for minutes? And then
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  Speaker 1: about 20 minutes later back, the Hornets made yet another
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  Speaker 1: deal for shooting. I was like, I didn't see another
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  Speaker 1: trade coming. And I know there's been some thought of
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  Speaker 1: would they keep Buddy Heald around? Obviously, you said that
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  Speaker 1: Nembhard won. There's been some thoughts that they wouldn't keep
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  Speaker 1: Buddy Heald. But I'm thinking, man, this guy actually is
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  Speaker 1: one of the most accomplished shooters ever. of this generation
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to three-point makes. I mean, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: mind having him hang around if he can, but there's
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  Speaker 1: only so many roster spots. This MAAC is going to
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  Speaker 1: be an insanely fun team to watch offensively, and even
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  Speaker 1: the preseason now is going to be interesting because there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be such a fight for these roster spots
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  Speaker 1: on this team. We have the depth chart in front
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  Speaker 1: of us, and it is... It's insane for an NBA
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  Speaker 1: team how deep they could go. Because normally with the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: this is like college depth. It's like a Rick Pitino
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  Speaker 1: team from the Kentucky years. It's like college football depth.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we got so many– like I said, we
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  Speaker 3: have to cut three players or trade three players some way, shape,
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  Speaker 3: or form. Um, before the season gets going. So who
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  Speaker 3: are the guys that go is a question. And then
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  Speaker 3: as you're pointing out, what's the rotation? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think we all feel like we know the starting lineup
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  Speaker 3: of Kobe con Brandon. Once he gets healthy, not hopefully
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  Speaker 3: that's the start of the season. Not going wood. Um,
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  Speaker 3: Nas Reed and Musa. I think we all feel pretty
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  Speaker 3: strongly that's the starting five. But after that, what combination
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  Speaker 3: bone of shooters and bigs, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: are going to play?
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  Speaker 1: Because we have to. is cut? Who's moved on? We
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  Speaker 1: added Schroeder along the way as the backup point guard.
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  Speaker 1: We keep adding bodies, and I'm trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how this works. I'm surprised by this one because, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I... I'm interested in Liam McNeely to see
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  Speaker 1: if he could push for minutes. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see now where he fits into the rotation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to talk about it a bunch in
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  Speaker 3: the 7 o'clock hour, kind of like how does the
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  Speaker 3: rotation work, who gets the minutes off the bench, who
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  Speaker 3: gets the heave-ho. Are we going to make another trade?
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about, will they keep Buddy Heald? Well, if
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  Speaker 3: they get rid of Nembhard, why did they make the trade?
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  Speaker 3: Just to get rid of Finney Smith's contract? Although it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't guaranteed after the season. Did they make it just
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  Speaker 3: to get some cash? They need some spending money over there?
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  Speaker 3: That's an MJ move. So I feel like they probably
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  Speaker 3: want Buddy Heald here, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's a bit fascinating. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: lie to you. At shooting guard alone, it's Khan, Grayson Allen,
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  Speaker 1: Buddy Heald, Seon James, and Pat Connaughton.
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  Speaker 3: I have a bad feeling the vice president of morale
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  Speaker 3: over there, Pat Connaughton, could be one of the guys
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  Speaker 3: that goes here. We're going to see how much they
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  Speaker 3: value that. And I wonder if Salon, like, could Salon
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  Speaker 3: be moved? Like, I've never thought that before, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: starting to wonder the way this roster is shaping up.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll talk all about it. We'll get into it
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  Speaker 3: here on the show. The Panthers also made a move yesterday, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: They bring back return man Amir Smith-Marset. ISM is back
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  Speaker 3: in the building. He's on the practice squad. Wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: EJ Williams. was released from the practice squad. Amir Smith-Marset
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  Speaker 3: fits the return specialist role. Now, he did not play
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL last year. His last season was with
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  Speaker 3: the Giants. He averaged 30 yards per kick return with
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  Speaker 3: the Giants a couple of seasons ago. He averages almost
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  Speaker 3: 35 yards a return with the Giants. He averages 30
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  Speaker 3: per return for his career on kicks.
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  Speaker 1: A little over eight on punts.
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  Speaker 3: And he was obviously with the Panthers bone in 2023.
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  Speaker 3: He only has 14 career catches. So he's the type
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  Speaker 3: of guy that really doesn't, you know, he did have eight,
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  Speaker 3: he had a career high eight catches for the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: in 2023, but he doesn't really help you outside of
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  Speaker 3: the return game.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he doesn't. But I also, I, I'm more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I know that JJ, you know, told
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  Speaker 1: us differently, but I feel more comfortable with him as
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  Speaker 1: a return man. than full-time Coker back there. I know
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  Speaker 1: that there's not as many punt returns as we think.
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  Speaker 1: JJ broke it down yesterday. Check out the podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: thought JJ changed your opinion. Were you just lying to him?
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  Speaker 1: It's great points. No, it's great points, but football minds
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  Speaker 1: can differ. Guys that played the game at the highest
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  Speaker 1: level can differ. I just feel more comfortable if Coker's
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  Speaker 1: just playing wide receiver. It's just how I feel. What
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  Speaker 1: about HM? That's how I feel. You can't tell me
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  Speaker 1: how I feel. That's how I feel. What about HM
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  Speaker 1: when he comes back?
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  Speaker 3: See, the thing with ISM is, I have to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with you, it's using a roster spot on a
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  Speaker 3: guy that I don't really know if he can help us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be here for
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  Speaker 1: the long haul, but I think in the immediate, yeah. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: so you think it's like this week?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I don't think it's a long-term thing.
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  Speaker 3: So you think Canales lied to us and Coker will
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  Speaker 3: not be returning punts this week?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You hear that? Happy work Wednesday, Dave. But it's coach lying.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you irregular human lying. Coach lying is all right.
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  Speaker 1: You encouraged coach lying. It sounded convincing to me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: There's all kinds of possibilities here too, man. This is
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  Speaker 3: also an interesting conversation. I just, yeah, my whole thing
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  Speaker 3: is I'd like my return man to be able to
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  Speaker 3: do something else. for roster you know active roster on
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  Speaker 3: game day purposes right and i just i feel like
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  Speaker 3: we tried him at wide receiver and i feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's not really happening there so it will be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see is this something they want to do for
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  Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks as a return man until
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  Speaker 3: uh hn gets back i'm not going to lie to
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  Speaker 3: you though he's a better return man than hn yes
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  Speaker 3: like that's that's that that's i gotta say that Definitely
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  Speaker 3: more explosive, more of a threat.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: He is definitely a better return man. Let's not forget
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  Speaker 3: the last game HN was a regular, not regular season,
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  Speaker 3: but in a game that mattered, the last time HN
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  Speaker 3: was a return man, he fumbled a punt in a
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  Speaker 3: damn playoff game. So I don't want to act like
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  Speaker 3: what he does is perfect either. So it'll be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see what they're doing there with ISM and is
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  Speaker 3: he active immediately or against the Browns coming up this week.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to mention the Braves shut out? The
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Braves don't care. Y'all got the division wrapped up, but
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  Speaker 3: they were shut out yesterday, Bone, by the Cincinnati Reds.
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Williamson and three relievers. I'm not going to lie, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't lock in much on this game. I'm kind
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: of waiting for the playoffs for the Braves at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I was monitoring the scores, but I am ready. The
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Yankees played twice yesterday. It's one of those times of
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  Speaker 1: the year where it's been a long season. We kind
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: of already know what's going to happen. We're just kind
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: of waiting to see a couple of the matchups, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just ready for postseason baseball to get here. Baseball, man,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: such a grind to follow, isn't it? I mean, I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm into my team and what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: The good thing for me, Bone, is I don't have
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: to follow anymore as an Orioles fan.
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  Speaker 1: Although you... Attaboy, you hung in the race for a
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: while there. Congrats to you, Mac, on the year Pete
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Alonso had, leading the AO and homers right there in RBIs.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my gracious. What a... What a gift he's
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  Speaker 1: been to.
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  Speaker 3: You, right?
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Could you imagine having him and just letting him get
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  Speaker 3: away from you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, God, that was hurt, man. I couldn't even
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: think about something like that. You got a guy named
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: the Polar Bear. You can't let a Polar Bear get away.
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  Speaker 1: You done?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: First, Tampa Tammy puts the Clemson UNC photo to troll Fitty,
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  Speaker 3: and now this. We are definitely testing his new mindset.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: How's the Mets group chat.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Hanging in there with the Alonzo, the Erie side?
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's been a lot of negativity, a lot of
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: four-letter words. Harsh things have been said about David Stearns.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Hey, the good news is you've locked in Andy Green
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: for a few years as manager.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Well, now since you brought me down this rabbit hole,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: we'll sit here and talk about it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Don't hate the move. I got to be honest, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: had no idea. I'd never heard of this man in
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: He managed the Padres at one point. The interesting thing, Matt,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: because I now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Have two coaches. Oh, I shouldn't have said anything.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: That coach my two favorite teams. that before they got
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: hired didn't want the job. Michael Malone didn't want the
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: UNC gig. And Andy Green, when he got named the interim,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: made it known, had no desire to be the full-time manager.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And now it's a three-year deal. Well, good luck to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Andy Bernard, the manager of New York. We have to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: be serious here for one moment. We got some... Very
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: sad news yesterday about the passing, the sudden passing of
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: ESPN college basketball analyst and SiriusXM host Chris Spatola, a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: frequent guest of the show, a friend of the show.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: That really, I know it hit you, it hit me.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Just devastating news yesterday about a man who seemed like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he had so much life left. Out of nowhere, we
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: get the news, Mac, that... that Chris Patola has passed away.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: A very accomplished man even before he entered our realm
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of basketball.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It's always sad to hear someone that we would put
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: on the show– and chop it up with.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: They pass away.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Mike Dettillier in New Orleans just a few weeks ago,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: and he was so cool to me when I would
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: get him to talk Saints. But Chris Patola, it felt
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: like we had a friend when he was on. Just
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: so much chop busting. He knew you were a Duke
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: guy and loved Coach K. I would text him at
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the holidays and say, do I get the invite? Well,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Papa let me in, and he would text me back
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: and say... the restraining order last one more year. Son-in-law
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: of Coach K. He married Coach K's daughter, Jamie. It's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: so sad. They have three kids together. Are you kidding me, man?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: They're all 16 and under and they're not going to
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: have their dad. And he was just so fun to
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: talk about. And I just, he's one of those guys
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that if you would have brought up his name yesterday
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: before we heard this, oh man, can't.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Wait to get him on and talk hoops. Because he
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: was cool. He would talk to us in college basketball season.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: We put him on a lot around draft time because
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he did the serious NBA draft in the NBA. So
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: we put him on during the season, in the spring.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: He would also, Mac, have that Jay Billis ability where
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: he had a lot of passionate thoughts on college athletics
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in general. So we would use him. He was like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a year-round guy. Oh, yeah, that's good for Spatola. His
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: best friend, Hal, the connection that we had with him,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: his best friend from childhood, Hal. is a very dedicated,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: lifelong listener to us in WFNZ. So that's sort of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: how that whole thing got started. But he would tell
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: me how much Spatola, you don't hear this often, how
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: much he loved us. Whenever he came to town, Hal
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: would say he wants to see us and do that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So he had a lot of nice things to say, Matt.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But even before basketball, he was a top five leading
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: scorer all time at Army. But after Army, he served
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: five years as an Army officer. He was a company commander.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: He deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and came
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: home with the Joint Service Commendation Medal awarded for what
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the citation called exceptional combat performance. So while we know
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: him for what we know him for, this man... lived
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a life far before we knew the name yeah true
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: hero in that respect not just a guy that we
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: had so much fun talking to and seemed like a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: great dude but a true freaking american hero as well
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it is so damn sad he's passed away only 47
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Years of age. It sucks, man.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: You texted me something this morning, though, where I was like, okay,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: there's at least some good news.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: For somebody on a health front, Stephen Garcia, his wife
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: shared this on social media. He had the surgery. The
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: cancer has been removed. So as of right now, he
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: is cancer-free. So that's certainly some good news. But, man,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: not to think about Chris Spatola, not just today, Bone,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: but for a.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: While, man. Yeah, that's the old life giveth, life taketh
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: away situation there. Great news for Garcia. Horrible news about
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Chris Spatola. But, Matt, the one thing we knew about
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Stephen Garcia's fight, cancer was in for one hell of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a ride. Cancer, like anybody can get it, and it–
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It doesn't know race, sex. It doesn't know any of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that stuff. But I'll tell you what, when you cancer
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: approach Stephen Garcia, you are not you are not going
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to win that one easily. Cancer. That dude was going
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to battle and battle. And he is right now. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: much love to Chris Patola. Rest in peace. And of course,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we're thinking about Stephen Garcia today as well as he
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: shows a lot of courage. We come back. Plenty of
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: college sports stuff. Shane Beamer gets asked about the possibility
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of benching with Norris Sellers. Dabo talks about the awkward
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: handshake with Bill Belichick. And Dave Doran buyout news. The
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: cost of that, Sports Radio 92.7 WFND.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone hanging out with
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you on a Wednesday morning edition of the show. Good
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: to have you with us. Nice to see Bone once again.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I got the first mistake of the day out of
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: the way in the first segment. According to my man,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Smoove from Defoe. I don't really know what that means.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But he says, Mac, clean up on aisle one. The
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: trade was between the Hawks and the Hornets, not the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Hawks and the Panthers.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. Finney, keep that mop out here. I'm fixing
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a tweet from this morning promoting the show. I asked,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what are the Hornets' NFC South chances? So let's clean
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that up as well. I will say this.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: The Hornets' chances to win the NFC South are the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: same as the Atlanta Falcons winning the NFC South.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I can give you that info. Oh, anyway. All right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk. I could also listen to you say smooth
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: from before. Smooth from. Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I like that name. That's smooth right there, baby. Let's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talk college football.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: How about the fact bone that we had before we
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: get into the local news involving Doran, Dabo and Beamer?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: How about we talk about the fact that there are six.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: AP ranked versus ranked matchups this weekend. That's pretty damn cool, man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: What was there in week one? There was one, right?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: It was SMU and— And how many— And now we have—
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And how many did we have last week?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Not many. I know there was one, LSU and Ole Miss.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Outside of that, I'm not sure. But six— Have a weekend, SEC.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: This is a SEC loaded up weekend, man. Tons of good.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: That Fort Ole Miss game. Tons of fun matchup. That
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Fort Ole Miss game is going to be theater. That's
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a 330 game. That's going to be a fun one.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Matter of fact, do we have the John Summerall clip?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I just realized we hadn't used that one. But, yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the SEC matchups are all over the place. LSU, A & M,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: South Carolina, Bama, Mississippi State hosting Mizzou.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Ranked versus ranked now. Tennessee, Texas. We don't really know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We haven't really seen Tennessee yet, per se, in a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: big game. So what are they? That's a fast. That's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: where game day is. They're going to get rocky romped,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling. I know they're at home. But, like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I just don't know about Tennessee. Faison, it feels like
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: there's going to be some lessons to be learned.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That he's had it pretty
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: easy with opponents so far. Georgia Tech was the toughest one.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: You trust Texas on the road in that environment, though?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I don't trust Brandon Faison to win a game against
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the number one team.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: In the country yet. I just don't.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: It is on the road.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: You are right about that. Sorry, Vols Fitty. I forgot
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I was offending Vols Fitty. Let's get to the cut here,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: shall we? This is John Summerall being informed that they
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: are the favorites at home on Saturday over the No.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: 4 team in the country, Ole Miss. You come into
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: this week ranked and favored against the top five team
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the nation. Do you use that doubt this week
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to fuel it?
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Who's got us favored? Against these guys.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Do they?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of good drugs out there, huh?
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious, man. Summerall, he's got a quote a week, man.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Every week he's got something. Every week he's got a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: new quote that we play on the show. He's good, man.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: He's good. He's fiery, but he can be funny. He
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can be smart-assy. At some point, there will be... I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: can see it already happening now. The week that Florida,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: when they play Missouri, whenever that comes up, there will be...
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Eli on one side, Summer on the other side. There
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: will be some audio played, I'm sure, when those are
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: two characters at that conference right now.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Big time. No doubt about it. So I saw this
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: from Brian Murphy. Brian Murphy took a break bone from
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: working with Pat Welter to see what the heck kind
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: of train wreck stuff is going on at UNC football.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And he did some digging to educate everybody on Dave
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Doran's buyout situation. Not going to cost them quite as
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: much as it would cost Clemson to get rid of Dabo.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Dabo is $ 57 million during the season, $ 60 million after
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the season to buyout.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Not really a deal.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Doran looks like it's about the same as Belichick after
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the season. Belichick is owed that $ 10 million that is
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: guaranteed if he is fired after the season. And Dave
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Doran's is right around $ 10 million. $ 10 million if he
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is let go after the season. So just throwing that
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: number out there for NC State fans as you try
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to decide, could.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: We possibly get rid of this man? Is this the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: time finally? I just wonder, too. He's been there for
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a long time. You know what you're getting with Doran,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but I also wonder, does the entire program, which you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: see sometimes happen, even if a coach is doing all right,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Does there need to be a new voice at the top,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just a different voice? And I'm not saying you make
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a change for the sake of it, but I think
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: in this case, I just wonder if the message, the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: way he goes about things, does NC State need a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: new fresh coat of paint maybe there with their program
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: here at some point? I just do they. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Do they want to just. You know, they know what
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: they have in Doran and it's good. It's solid. Although
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: it wasn't the other day in the final few seconds.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: But I think I think we've all been wondering here
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, like at some point, do
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: they want to try something different? Aim for somebody that
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: maybe brings could bring a higher upside. But the risk
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: with that is Dave Doran's record is far from guaranteed
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: at NC State. It could be worse. So there is
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: a gamble element to it. I just keep thinking about
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: how state fans are like, fire him because of the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Vanderbilt game. And it's like, that was so overwhelmingly C.J.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Bailey's fault. Now, people also are saying Ben C.J. Bailey.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It's like, are you freaking kidding me? Get the heck
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: out of here. He just learns a lesson, and it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: a costly, valuable lesson. We'll talk more about State Bone.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: We're going to get into it in the 7 o'clock hour. Yesterday,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: we were kind of talking about, like, do fans want
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: coaching changes at all these schools in the Carolinas that
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: are off to slow starts? 7 o'clock, I feel like
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: it's time to actually discuss, hey, Which team can actually
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: turn their season around? Because I feel like so many
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: fans of the Carolinas are like, oh, it's a lost season.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Fire the coach. We're done.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Like, is there a team that can actually make it
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: a decent season out of this? Or are we just
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: declaring everybody's season crap?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I think I have a feeling of where, I'm not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: going to spoil it, but I have a sense, I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: think I might know where you could go on this
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: one here. What about you? I don't know yet. We'll
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: figure it out here.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. I don't want to spoil it. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: it's an interesting conversation, right?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: As Shane Beamer said, and we'll let you hear this
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: at 7 o'clock, we are three games in. We have 75%
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of the season left, and you wouldn't know it. from
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: some of the fan rhetoric in these parts. Speaking of
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Shane Beamer, yesterday at his presser, and we've seen it
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: from Gamecock fans on the text line, Gamecock Kevin said
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: it when he called up the other day and bogarted
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: the Panther segment on the phones to talk Gamecocks. People
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: are actually bringing up, do we know Lenora Sellers is
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: better than Cutter Woods? Do we know that Lenora Sellers
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: should be playing? Or could there be a change? Could
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: there at least be a benching if he throws two
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: bad interceptions again? Yesterday, listen to this. Shane Beamer asked
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: about Lenore Seller's status and the possibility of a quarterback change.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: Along those lines, what's your message to the folks who
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: are watching or listening who think it should be another
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: quarterback who gets a look?
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: A look?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I see in practice every week and people on the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: outside of this building don't get to decide that. We
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: win as a team, we lose as a team. Are
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: there some throws that Lenoris would like to have back
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: or throws that he would like to make?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And then there's also some plays that we made or
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: didn't make on defense and special teams that every single
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: person would like to have back.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And as I told Lenores, when.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: You lose a football game, the two people that get
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the most blame are the head coach and the quarterback.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And it's no different this week.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And worry about what we can control.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And Lenores needs to be better. I need to be better.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Our entire team needs to be better. And competition is
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a core value with this program. So yeah, we got
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: really good quarterbacks. Lenores is a good quarterback. Cutter Woods
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is a good quarterback. And we're always competing in practice
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and working and striving to be our best each and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: every day and each and every week.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: So let me translate that. So it's possible at some
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: point Cutter Woods could play because he didn't really– he
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: told you how good Lenore is in practice. He did
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of ums and ahs in the beginning. He
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: went into a lot of clichés there. It took a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: little time to get going on that one. He didn't
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: really say the words, Lenore Sellers is our guy. We're
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: going to ride with Lenore Sellers. We trust Lenore Sellers.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He's been in the program for a long time. We
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: don't just take one moment of a game or two
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: moments of a game and What we see is all day,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: every day, that's our guy. He didn't really– he went
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: into a lot of cliches there, which tells me, well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Norris is the guy right now, but if he keeps
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: making bad throws like that with this schedule coming up here,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they may at some point have to at least see
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: what Cutter Woods has.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Felt like he left the door open there, like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: you're talking about, Bo. He didn't say, no, well, Norris
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: is my guy.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't do that. He said, well, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: then he went into a lot of team stuff and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: this and that, and then– I don't know. He didn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: really say the words, Lenores is our guy. He kind
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of left it open a little bit.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of things about Lenores Sellers that is
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: definitely concerning, right? One is he's got Kendall Bryles here,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the new OC, and I really thought, I know you
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: really thought, a lot of people really thought he would
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: jump right back to where he was the year before last.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: And that hasn't happened, and that's a little scary. The
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: other thing is we can't blame the offensive line because
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: the other day against Mississippi State, according to PFF, he
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: was pressured 14% of the time.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: That is unbelievable pass protection. Now, he was sacked three times.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: but I wonder how much of that was him holding
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: on the ball too long. Uh, bone, he was three
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of 11 on passes, 10 yards or more with that
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: kind of protection. And then the other thing is against
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: my Towson tigers, he passed the ball like doo doo.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Now it was pretty, the conditions were pretty rough in
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: the middle of that game, but, um, man, he's got to,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: this is a huge game for him. You know, it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: freaking game against Alabama for him. You know, it's really something. Um,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Todd McShay still has, as of a week ago, before
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State, so this is middle of last week, Todd
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: McShay of the ringer back, his mock draft, he still
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: has Lenora Sellers, the eighth pick overall in the draft. Like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: he still is big on his pro upside more so
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: than we see in college. He also has Peek, offensive lineman,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: in the first round. So now we've got an offensive
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: lineman getting first-round love, and we still can't really unlock
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: the full Norris right now. Yeah, Peek came back the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: other day, so that was good news. And I do
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: think their O-line's improved. And their running game's improved.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's four. Four's been good. It's weird.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Lenora Sellers, we're more worried about. Fort Millionaire brings up
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a point you've brought up. Use Lenora's legs. It's his
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: greatest strength. Yeah, get him on design runs. He ran
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: five design runs the other day, six scrambles. I mean,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: just lean into it, man. Lean into it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It's even the way he's running the design. I don't
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: see necessarily the guy a couple years ago, Mac, that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: defenders are like, oh, my God. Remember against Clemson, he
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: was just– dragging people around the field we don't see
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen that as much they've really since then
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: honestly i mean he's ran well numbers wise the last
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: two weeks yeah but a lot of gamecock fans i
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: think are saying what you're saying a lot of gamecock
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: fans are wondering did he get big money and now
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily want to try to run over people
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that he wasn't ducking out of bounds
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago he was going head-on against people
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and now you're not seeing that Let's see.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the Dabo thing real quick,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and then we'll wrap it up.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So much good college football stuff.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, we got Deion kicking guys off the team
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: after getting beat by 34 by Northwestern. Man, Deion's in
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: trouble too, man. But anyway, back to the Carolinas. This
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: is Dabo Sweeney, our plus presser. He is in such
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: a jolly mood this week. And he was asked about
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the very quick drive-by– with Bill Belichick because they're pretty close.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: So it looked weird. Like he gave them the old
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I hate Mangini handshake, right? It was that fast.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: That meme against the Lions where Belichick ignores the kids.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So listen to Dabo talk about it. I think I've
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: had somewhere along the line. I'm not even sure I've
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: had a handshake.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: But, you know, I mean, listen, it's chaos. I mean,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: he's Bill Belichick. It's a tough loss. I've been on
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: both sides of it. You've got fans on the field.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: That's not really normal for him. I don't know how
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: many places he's been. You know, this guy's been coaching
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: a long time. I'm not sure he's been on many
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: fields where he's got like, you know, some random person
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: right here and you don't know who he is. He
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: just came out of the bleachers and he's like, you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: talking to it, you know. So I don't know that
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: that was a normal experience for him. So let's give
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: him a little bit of slack here. And then I
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: was way over on the other side, you know, kind
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: of coming at him, but Coach Belichick's great, man.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: Was just kind of a drive-by moment, you know? Like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: let's get on. I mean, the game went for 22 hours,
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: you know?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure even– maybe he got– he's.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Like, do they always have people on the field? I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure anybody told him that.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: What does Belichick Max say on that drive-by? It's got
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to be just one. It's not– no, no. There's not
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: enough time for two grumbles. It's only a one. It's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a one grumble. It's a one grumble. And then that's it. Dabo.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Like Dabo said, you better have your head on a swivel.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: You don't see him come when he's gone. Happy Dabo
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is hilarious. Happy Dabo is so much fun, man. He
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: really is.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: By the way, I just thought of that as he
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: said that, the Clemson tradition of the fans running on
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: the field after every game. How many people do you
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: think watched that and thought, they're storming the field because
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: they beat UNC?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: It happens all the time.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And that's one where I could see someone that didn't
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: know think it's the most ridiculous field storm ever. They're
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Clemson and they beat Bill Belichick at UNC and they're
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: storming the field. Now they run down there every damn time. Max,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: shout out to Texter TFB for pointing this out. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: did not see it this morning. Aaron Wilson, NFL reporter,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: has a source report. Austin Eckler, longtime NFL running back,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: working out for the Panthers today.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice. Interesting. He's a little bit older, 31, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: throwing him into the running back room there might be
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: interesting if they can get that done.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're just going to need somebody with
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: HN out, and Brooks probably going to be out for
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. I think it's just somebody they
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: need for the short term, I would think, depending on
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: how they play.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You would think so. When we come back, speaking of Panthers,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: national media for Bryce Young pouring in, and ISM back
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: as a return man for now for the Panthers. Sports Radio.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: 92.7 WFNZ. But Carolina. Carolina.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: And the way Bryce Young is playing, I sat and
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: talked with him this offseason, man. He put up three
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: touchdowns today, you know, 278 yards. Give Roy a tutorial.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: McMillan goes for over 100 yards. That combination, that Young
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: combination right there, I'm telling you, Carolina's going in the
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: right direction.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Tell us, Michael Irvin, tell us. Michael Irvin, why didn't
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: you drop a BTA? Say we took that belt to
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the booty of the Atlanta Falcons like you do after
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: a Hurricanes game.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I need to see the conversations with Michael Irvin and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young. That is quite a difference in personalities there
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: between those two. Michael Irvin just screaming at him. You
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: go out there and you perform at the highest level.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: If they make short jokes about you, you take your
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: belt off and you beat somebody.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mr.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Irvin.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Michael Irvin, by the way, you would have thought that's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: an interesting Bryce there. You would have thought on Friday
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: night in Winston-Salem that it was the national championship game
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: all over again. Michael Irvin on the sidelines was losing
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: his mind over a Friday night Wake Miami game.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: It also, because of the camera angle, he kind of
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, like in the shot. And Mike Monaco,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, is he? Because remember last year, Mac,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: towards the end of the season, ESPN, certain times, they
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: wouldn't acknowledge Michael Irvin after a while. I don't know
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: if there was a mandate to not. I don't know
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: what was going on. But Michael Irvin was so in
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the scene of that shot. Mike Monaco had to say, oh, hey, look,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: there's Michael Irvin. Oh, yeah, there's Michael Irvin.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I did not know that Michael Irvin was going to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: find his way to Winston.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: He goes to every Canes game, and he loses his
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: mind at every game.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know about the FAMU game. I didn't see
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: him there.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: But he probably was losing his mind as they made
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: it like 49 nothing in the first half of that
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: game like he is a nut in general and with
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: his miami hurricanes he is crazy that was the white
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: house podcast gotta love the way he named the podcast
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: after the house they used to they used to get
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: in trouble with the lol at uh as dallas cowboy
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: players um let's get more though let's get more because
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: um You want to talk about doing drugs? My favorite
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: drug is praise for Bryce Young. I can't get enough
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: of it. Let's go to Dan Orlovsky. This was on
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: NFL Live. I was watching this when he said it, man,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and I enjoyed it. This is Dan Orlovsky after they
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: broke down the Panthers-Falcons highlights talking about Bryce.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young is balling, man.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: He is 650 yards through the first two weeks, six touchdowns.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Some of the throws he's making the ball to get
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: the two touchdown passes to Darren Waller. There were question
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: marks coming into this season. Right now, Bryce Young is
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: absolutely hooping in Carolina.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young is hooping, baby, hooping. How about that? I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: still can't.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Dave Tepper didn't call him a point guard.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: It's true. That is true.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I still can't get with the, I know the cool
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: kids do it, when you call football players ball and hooping.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That one threw me for a loop when I first
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: heard it from Vashti Hurt on a Panther pregame show
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: when she joined me in KB. Am I just too
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: old and out of touch? I don't feel like I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: could pull off hooping. I'm not sure Orlovsky pulled it off.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: We don't say talking basketball, they're footballing. Boy, I got
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: to tell you, Coggy Nibble is footballing out there.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: How old and out of touch would that be? Boy,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, Matt, that Kobe White is
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: really footballing out there. He's really pig skating, Mackie.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure any of us on this show can
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: pull off hooping, you know what I mean, when it
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: comes to football players.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But Orlowski, yeah, loving Bryce. He's had multiple segments and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: tweets about Bryce Young. We're actually going to have at
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: some point here relatively soon Dan Orlowski. on the radio
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: program as long as Mac doesn't attack him over food takes. Okay,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I'll try to stay calm on that. But again, between
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: now and then, he may say something. It is almost
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Halloween season here, candy takes. He may say something soon,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: but we need to maybe just.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Stick to football. Use some restraint. And don't use the
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: word fudge around him either. Doc says, so he says,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: hooping and fudge. Oh, my goodness. Doc says, Michael Irvin
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: looks like a drunk Rick James.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: All righty. That's hilarious. So this Austin Eckler thing, TFB.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I think Rick James handled some of that on his own,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: by the way. I don't think it was just a
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: drunk Rick James. That's just Rick James, right? Just general.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: So TFB dug up that report that the Panthers are
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: working out Austin Eckler. And he says, I wonder if
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: it's uncertainty with Brooks' health. It definitely is, right? It
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: definitely feels like it's related to that's. We'll find out
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: what his status is. Brooks on the first injury report
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: today with his groin injury. My whole question is with
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: this is like, you know, Pelissero reported from NFL media.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's week to week. My guess on it is
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: he's out, you know, through the bye week. Now, if
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: it's more than that, that's going to totally suck. So I,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if the Austin Eckler thing bone
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: is an indicator either way, because we need a third
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: running back. HN's out at least the first four weeks.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And then we've got like Trey Tyus. And I keep
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: forgetting this other kid's name that we got on the
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: practice squad at running back Amani Marshall. They could be
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: looking for an NFL experience dude to be your third
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: running back this week.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's also very much a dual threat
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: running back. Oh, yeah. He's almost as equal, Mac, in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years as a pass catcher, as
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a runner. Only played two games last year, so that
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't really have anything there. 2024, he had in 12 games,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: 367 rushing for the Commanders. 366 receiving so he uh
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he very much gives them a look of a guy
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that can come in and get a few carries but
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: also he could be a threat in the backfield that
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: they're kind of hoping that brooks could be also yeah
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: brooks was in week one oh yeah that's that's what
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: one of the first thoughts i had too is oh
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: not the target for bryce bryce loves spreading the ball
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: around right now He is a great check down option.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: There is no doubt about that. Multiple people saying give
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Quadzilla the ball. Give this dude says give give give
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Corey Corey Dillon give A.J. Dillon some carries.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: A.J. Dillon.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he I think he if I cleaned
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: it up on the go, does that require a mop, though?
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I feel like I just
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: got a paper towel out and just cleaned that up
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: on the go. But anyway, I think Dylan's the second
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: back this week. But I do wonder, would they want
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: to get Austin Eckler up and running immediately as the
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: third back?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe. I could kind of see that. Yeah. I mean,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long-term he's going to be, much
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like Mack. We don't know exactly how long-term ISM will
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: be in his return as– a return man for the Panthers.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Those are two interesting ones. Do they get, I would
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: think Eckler is more, I.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Don't know.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: They, they're both guys that, well, first of all, we
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: haven't even signed Eckler yet. So that needs to be said.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: It's just a workout. It's a report of a workout,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: but I do wonder if you could see either or both,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: you know, for this weekend.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I do see that. When we come back here on
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the Mac and Bone radio program, the Hornets made a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: trade for yet another shooter. How do we feel about it?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: What do we expect the rotation to be? And who
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: are the guys that may not be... Oh, get the
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: mop out. Get the mop out. We're talking college football next,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Bone Man. Oh, I was on the wrong... My screen
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: here was on the wrong box. I feel better now.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Someone's joined me in the mistake parade. He could not wait.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Rightfully so. He could not wait. Hey, Mac, what do
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you think on the way back we talk college football?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: That's a good plan. Because this is just it. We
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: have some struggling college football teams in the Carolinas. Who
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is most likely to turn their season around? And guess
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: what's at 725, Mac? The Hornets thing I just teased.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: There you go. I teased the whole hour, baby. And Westy.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.