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Fast Laps with the Boys - F1 2024 - Imola Recap & Monaco Preview · Banter with the Boys

• 0:00
  Get laced up. Let's go!
• 0:02
  It's time for Banner with the Boys.
• 0:12
  Yo yo yo, welcome back to Banner with the Boys.
• 0:15
  Fast laps. What am I doing with my hands?
• 0:17
  I don't know what to do with my hands, but we're back at it again.
• 0:22
  A MOLA recap Monaco preview.
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  But of course as always right next to me we got Joe our co-host.
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  Joe, what is poppin'?
• 0:31
  Doing pretty good. I think you're just making up for the lack of excitement during that dang MOLA race unfortunately.
• 0:37
  And we got another one coming up.
• 0:38
  Yeah, that'll be fun.
• 0:39
  Gotta do something to make it exciting I guess.
• 0:42
  But anyway, moving right along. Cole, how's your week been?
• 0:45
  Good, good. Is that a Will Ferrell throwback there?
• 0:48
  Yeah. What was that from?
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  A Talladega knife.
• 0:51
  I don't know what to do with my hands. Just keep them down.
• 0:54
  Yeah, so anyway, Cole, how's your week?
• 0:57
  Good. Raining again. I don't know what it is about these podcasts, but every time we get poured on I feel like these days.
• 1:04
  So, I was hoping we'd get a storm, but we didn't.
• 1:07
  Oh, we did. It just is done and over with and it wasn't that intense like they said it was going to be.
• 1:13
  And not the storm we were looking for.
• 1:14
  Well for you guys, for sure. No doubt.
• 1:17
  Right next to him obviously we got Tyler. Tyler, what's going on?
• 1:20
  Not much man. Just getting the house ready to get moved in here. It's a lot of work.
• 1:26
  You haven't moved in yet?
• 1:27
  No.
• 1:28
  When is that?
• 1:29
  In a perfect road this weekend, but that depends on how fast I can get this family room floor done.
• 1:33
  Fair enough, fair enough.
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  Hit me up, hit me up. My lady's going down to Texas. I'll help you out.
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  Congrats, congrats.
• 1:39
  Thanks.
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  And as always, not even as always because I always forget actually. So as always I have forgotten, but I will not this time.
• 1:48
  Kev behind the cameras puts this whole thing together. Thanks a lot buddy.
• 1:53
  Let's just move right into the Imola recap. Is it Imola or Imola? Am I the only one that says Imola?
• 2:02
  Imola. Should I break out the full name again?
• 2:04
  Yeah, yeah. The RSC Emilio.
• 2:07
  The MSC, yeah, no, yeah. Imola I think is, yeah.
• 2:10
  Alright, so Imola, recap. Let's just head right into Red Bull right off the bat for Stapp and obviously getting the dub.
• 2:20
  But if you saw the race, those last five laps he was kind of getting threatened, but we'll stick with Red Bull and then we'll definitely talk McLaren right after that.
• 2:29
  In my opinion, I think for Stapp and Skil straight up won the race in those final like 10 laps.
• 2:36
  It seemed like he was really struggling with the car.
• 2:39
  Lando closed on him, then Verstappen kind of gained some more pace back with like four laps to go, but then Lando was charging again.
• 2:47
  So what were your guys' take on Verstappen's closeout kind of the race?
• 2:54
  Yeah, his car was falling apart. It was just getting worse and worse as the race kind of got on as soon as he knows about those 25 laps left.
• 3:02
  And I would agree with you. I mean, it's not often Max has to turn into a defensive driver.
• 3:07
  He's always going to be an aggressive driver, but for him to actually throw the defense on and prevent Lando from making that pass.
• 3:14
  But I mean, Cecho, if we're going to bring the other Red Bull into it, terrible weekend.
• 3:19
  Just terrible weekend for the performance you should see out of Red Bull.
• 3:22
  And then for him to come in after the race and say that a Mola is not an F1 track. It's not meant for overpassing, which it isn't.
• 3:30
  It makes sense. There's only one DRS zone, but like you say that as you're going into the pinnacle of racing in Monaco.
• 3:36
  And you mean you have the best car right now. That's why you have the qualifying so you don't have to worry about that, right?
• 3:41
  Exactly.
• 3:42
  But I want to jump back on what you were saying, Tyler, around Verstappen at the end of the race.
• 3:46
  Obviously, he raced a great race. I think everybody was rooting for Lando to get within that one second, the two laps ago.
• 3:52
  Everybody was rooting for that. Obviously, we talked about it a little bit with the dirty air and everything being a little bit more difficult to get there.
• 4:00
  And it was all basically around the tire degradation, right? Did I say that word right?
• 4:05
  As far as I know.
• 4:06
  Tire deg.
• 4:07
  Degradation?
• 4:08
  Is it degradation?
• 4:09
  Tire deg.
• 4:10
  Oh, you're degradation.
• 4:11
  Just say tire deg. Tire deg is easier.
• 4:14
  But I think as far as Verstappen, it was a good race. I don't know. I wanted Lando so bad at the end there.
• 4:20
  I've never rooted for somebody so hard that I don't really root for normally. I was high on hand in the air.
• 4:25
  But it was, again, it was a boring race. Verstappen kind of just did what he did. And it's tough. It sucks.
• 4:32
  Yeah. Yeah. Very boring race. I'm pretty peeved we didn't see a lot of movement just throughout the field in general, especially within the top 10.
• 4:40
  In terms of Verstappen, I guess I'm a little surprised. I'm not super surprised. His weekend really wasn't looking good up until qualifying when he pulled in the fastest lap.
• 4:50
  I was, everyone was kind of expecting, you know, maybe this is another race where he gets second. But yeah, he pulled out of his hat. I agree. I think it was a lot of skill.
• 4:58
  He managed his tires well up until the very end. And then Lando proved that he managed his tires better and then pushed maybe a little too hard.
• 5:06
  I think the dirty air is a really good point. Yeah, just kind of maybe got a little bit too much in there.
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  But two laps more and we would have seen a fight from him. I think that would have been cool. 100%.
• 5:16
  Yeah, a fight would have been interesting. Sorry, we can. I don't know if I'm jumping ahead here, but I was just looking here.
• 5:21
  Usually we don't have the spreads on the seconds. Yeah. And we have that in front of us here now. Oscar for a majority of the race was catching up to LeClaire. Am I wrong?
• 5:31
  He was. I didn't even notice it was that big of a gap at the end of the race. Yeah, I think his first thing was better than his second. But yeah, Oscar was putting in a fight.
• 5:40
  Yeah. Yeah. So not to jump back to Red Bull real quick. Do you think, two things. First, Verstappen, do you think Verstappen is feeling any sort of,
• 5:50
  I don't even want to call it pressure because he's world class and the best driver on the grid right now. But unless you talk to Cole. I would call it pressure.
• 5:59
  Yeah, you think he's feeling at least a little bit of pressure right now. Like somebody's starting to challenge him.
• 6:05
  He hasn't had an actual true challenger. I mean, even Chekhov hasn't been a challenger in two full years.
• 6:10
  The end of the year last year when Sians got his win, like it was the championship was decided. Verstappen had nothing more to race for. Like he already had like the most wins in the season, the most whatever.
• 6:20
  He had all the records he could fight for. And I mean, I wouldn't say that he took that race off by any means. I mean, the strategy won that race for Sians last year.
• 6:28
  But it's just he hasn't had this sort of challenge since he was fighting Lewis for the championship. And that was what? 21?
• 6:34
  That sounds right. Yes. Yes. When the whole world stopped. Yeah, it was 21. 100% was 21.
• 6:42
  I mean, obviously there are some other cars we'll get into in a little bit that didn't make the big jump. But I mean, yeah, I think I agree with Tyler.
• 6:49
  He 100% is feeling the pressure right now. And it's a different ballgame when you're racing against a car that can keep up. Like how is he going to compete with Lando?
• 6:57
  You know, I mean, if Lando can keep performing how he's doing and to be honest, Oscar's performing a lot better than probably a lot of people thought he would. Oh, yeah.
• 7:04
  He's just had bad luck. It was I wouldn't even call it bad luck. Like it was his impeding in qualifying.
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  When he impeded Magnus, him cost him with podium this race. He had that three. He qualified ahead of Lando.
• 7:16
  He qualified P2 and had the three plays grid penalty. And then it's hard to it's hard to catch two Red Bulls and your teammate.
• 7:23
  So I don't know if I didn't hear this or not, but I didn't hear any Red Bull communication around at the end of the race.
• 7:29
  Like you got to go, you got to go. He's catching up or anything like that. Oh, it was. Yeah. I must admit.
• 7:34
  I thought they just kind of let him do his thing. I know they came in and said like Lando is is doing this or whatever.
• 7:39
  And then like Max or Max had his little snarky response and GP was like, it's just information.
• 7:44
  And then Max's response and then because Max was like something with the tires and then Max responds back was like it's like this.
• 7:49
  He like mimicked GP and he's saying, God, he's just such a snarky little. But you're dialed in though.
• 7:55
  Like if like he should know that Lando is charging. You got to know that.
• 8:00
  So maybe you know if you got to push a little bit more. But other than that, yeah. Shut the heck up.
• 8:05
  The gap that Lando was how quick he was closing because then it comes down to like strategy to how are we going to save the battery.
• 8:11
  Battery levels matter. And they had that communication at the end. That was the thing at the end.
• 8:15
  I thought it was bigger. Right. When they started mentioning it, I was like, oh snap. They doubled the battery.
• 8:20
  The McLaren had 60 and the Red Bull had 30. And it is.
• 8:25
  I know I hate that because I think there should be more communication around that.
• 8:29
  That's something I think I want to see more communication around that when Max just kind of dismisses it.
• 8:33
  It's not as fun to kind of see. Like it also shows like if that's not a perfect sign of pressure.
• 8:39
  That's a perfect sign of showing there's pressure. At the end of the day too, Lando is one of the most light guys on the grid. Right. Always smiling.
• 8:45
  He had snarky responses back to his engineer this race. Yeah he did. It was like max level smile.
• 8:50
  I mean it was in Lando's tone so it's not just natural snarky.
• 8:54
  But it was still Lando was just like basically leave me the hell alone.
• 8:58
  Because they're dialed in dude. Lando knew exactly like again tell him how close he's getting maybe.
• 9:03
  But like they were dialed in. But like I guess that goes back to the point was Max feeling pressure.
• 9:08
  Does he feel pressure now? Absolutely because I mean I think it's without a question Lando had pressure and felt pressure in that race to catch up, perform and not mess up.
• 9:17
  Because all it takes is one slip up and all of a sudden he's not in second. You know something to happen.
• 9:21
  Or finishing the race at all. Yeah exactly. Like me on F1. But one little blop.
• 9:28
  And actually those last few laps what do they call it in F1 when not overseer or anything but like when the wheel jerks back real quick.
• 9:36
  Traction control. No they have a term for it and I can't. ABS? No no no. It's like a weird term for it.
• 9:43
  But anyway like it kept happening to Lando because he was just pushing that hard in and out of every corner breaking late.
• 9:49
  Like the dude was pushing. He was pushing hard. But I mean if you saw the cockpit view or the TV pod view or whatever.
• 9:55
  That's such a cool camera. I love it. I love it. But like if you go back and look those last couple laps his hands are snapping hard.
• 10:02
  It's not overseer or understeer. No it is. But they got a term for it and whatever. No it is. It's exactly that.
• 10:08
  They're just saying understeer and that's when you have that correction. No no. They definitely got a term for it that everybody else uses.
• 10:14
  But back to your point about like the pressure and the speed and stuff like that. When you have like a second speed. Right?
• 10:20
  Like the kicker is the first lap when he started really gaining he gained like over a second to Verstappen.
• 10:26
  So obviously Verstappen is upset and he should be because he's just like I want to lock in here.
• 10:30
  But if he doesn't get the information you saw the first couple laps was a huge jump up. And then all of a sudden it was a gradual jump to catch him.
• 10:38
  And then Verstappen even put in a couple lap times quicker than Lando. Like you know three four laps left to go.
• 10:45
  And then Lando started closing again. But he didn't let him get that second until he depleted his battery.
• 10:50
  But you're right. 100%. If you don't know how you're supposed to know if you should be really trying to send this thing.
• 10:56
  And just real quick to wrap up Red Bull. Do you think Checo starting on hards was a big reason why he didn't finish higher?
• 11:03
  Because when he switched to mediums he came out at like 11th place or something like that with like 30 lap.
• 11:11
  No not even like 25 laps left. And he was able to climb back into points. He's not passing top class cars.
• 11:18
  But he's passing people with hards on that are used when he has fresh mediums.
• 11:21
  True. Right. Because it was like everybody's strategy was just switched with Checo.
• 11:27
  Because he just went longer with the hards. And then as those hards wore down he put on fresh mediums as the hards were wearing down for the others.
• 11:33
  Should they have gone quicker? Like do you think he could have finished in front of the Mercs if he would have you know not ran the hards as long?
• 11:40
  Or if that wasn't their strategy? You don't think it would have made a difference?
• 11:43
  No. Because that's kind of what he's blaming his off race on.
• 11:47
  I would say maybe if the tire deck wasn't so bad for Max who had the other strategy.
• 11:51
  Sure. And I think that might have had a play in it.
• 11:54
  You think either way though it was just a rough race for Red Bull. Yeah they won but it wasn't great.
• 11:59
  No I mean a 1.8. Or yeah 1.8 is not a good finish for Red Bull.
• 12:04
  And even the 1.8 like we've been just talking and now we're going to go in and talk about Lando and Oscar.
• 12:08
  Obviously like even that 1 is kind of suspect heading into a weekend that you need a really good qualifying to finish well.
• 12:18
  And me and Tyler were talking about this I think Monday. So yesterday.
• 12:22
  Like the point gap right now between Red Bull and Ferrari and Red Bull and McLaren and the Constructors is not that crazy.
• 12:33
  Well and let's we'll talk about that next show I think let's do another rundown of Constructors and Driver Champion.
• 12:39
  But you're making a really good point dude. Like I mean it's.
• 12:42
  It's a lot closer than you think at this point. 100%.
• 12:45
  Than you would think with how dominant Max been this year. It's a lot closer than you'd think.
• 12:48
  Yeah from what we've been seeing the past few years where we're just so used to just running away with it.
• 12:52
  Just a quick note on that. Yeah.
• 12:54
  Just because I'm looking at it what surprises me is it's closer between Red Bull and Ferrari than Ferrari and McLaren.
• 12:59
  What? Nuh uh. It's close. Really.
• 13:04
  It is. So it's a 50. It's a 56 point gap between Red Bull and Ferrari.
• 13:09
  It is a 70 or 68.
• 13:14
  66 point gap between McLaren and.
• 13:17
  I'm no Ferrari fan.
• 13:19
  But I would love to see a Ferrari win this week. Might as well just give it to Charles. Let him win in his home.
• 13:24
  Finally. Oh that would be so sweet.
• 13:26
  Oh and Monaco? Yeah. And his little pinto he drives around over there.
• 13:30
  Yeah.
• 13:33
  But let's quick stay on Imola. Not Imola.
• 13:37
  McLaren. I mean obviously we've already touched on them. We don't need to spend too much more time on them.
• 13:42
  But I'd say exactly what we were looking forward to this weekend.
• 13:47
  As far as McLaren goes. What do you McLaren fans think?
• 13:50
  Oh yeah. You American hypocrites.
• 13:52
  They are. I mean happily. They are keeping their pace up. They're still going really strong.
• 13:58
  Lando able to. I mean literally almost fight Max at the end.
• 14:03
  It was another race where Max isn't gaining like up until the end of the race. People were actually gaining up on him.
• 14:10
  Sure. I mean a couple more laps. Do you honestly feel he would have caught him?
• 14:14
  Or would have Max still been able. And that's. Dude with the tire wear too. That's so relative right?
• 14:19
  I'm just saying like if there's four more laps. Two more laps Lando wins that race.
• 14:24
  Because he gets into DRS and is now. He got into it with seven seconds of the finish. I don't know.
• 14:28
  I think. The Red Bull tires were only getting worse and the way McLaren had handled their tires dude.
• 14:33
  I think two more seconds. Oh sorry. Two more laps knowing how close it is to the end of the race.
• 14:38
  We didn't get to see Verstappen really defend against Norris. Norris had only just got up to him.
• 14:43
  I mean that close to the end of the race. Verstappen is getting wide.
• 14:47
  He's a good defender though. I mean but we haven't really seen true defense from him since 2021 or whatever.
• 14:53
  And that track though. It's not. There's one spot to pass on that track.
• 14:56
  And it's the DRS zone coming out of the first turn there. And it's like at the end of the day.
• 15:01
  There's no way to defend. You can make the move to dip down. But when a driver's on DRS.
• 15:05
  But Max would have been crazy aggressive with it. With the condition of his tires. Oh yeah.
• 15:12
  That's what I'm thinking. I think so. They would have defended right away. They both ended up wrecking.
• 15:17
  I'm not trying to say that Max is a wrecker. You just can't really defend DRS nowadays.
• 15:21
  You can't defend DRS? Oh. At the end of the day it's like. I like DRS.
• 15:25
  You only get one move. You can only sway one way to go back.
• 15:29
  So you make that one move you get that outside or inside. Depends on who's later on the brakes.
• 15:33
  Got to hit him with the juke move. Watch your NFL card.
• 15:36
  I think it all came down to him just having DRS. If Lando hits DRS on him on a full straightaway right there.
• 15:41
  If he's within.7 going into the DRS. Probably closer actually.
• 15:45
  Because I don't think even with DRS. I think you get close to him near the end of that straight.
• 15:49
  I don't know if you pass him. And it would need to be on the second to last lap.
• 15:55
  Because the DRS zone. Like the start of the DRS zone is so close to the finish that you're not going to get him the last.
• 16:00
  Oh for sure. It would have been a lot of strategy talks. We talked about that 60% to 30% battery.
• 16:06
  So Lando had the power to do it. I just man I want to see them like really head to head fight a little bit more.
• 16:14
  We saw Lando run off. Max maybe with damage. I don't want to take Lando's win away from him.
• 16:20
  Obviously he earned it. But yeah I want to see a head to head between him and Max and really see who takes it.
• 16:27
  It sucks the next race is what it is. Obviously it's a fun race. We'll get into that in a bit.
• 16:31
  But it sucks that is what it is because reality is there's not really going to be a fight on that race like this.
• 16:35
  No but the outlook of the season is looking way more interesting than it did when we were first starting the show this year.
• 16:43
  You get to these tracks that have 2, 3 or 3 DRS zones. It's going to be a wild battle then. It's going to be wild.
• 16:51
  It's almost to the point now where so many times last year if Max was I mean you could argue in the top 15 he's winning that race.
• 17:01
  And this year if he's in the top 5 if he's not at first and he's down like the 5th it's going to be tough.
• 17:08
  It's not going to be so easy for him to just come in and blow it away.
• 17:11
  He won't blow it away but it'll be some battling for sure. That's the type of battle I'd like to see.
• 17:17
  Somebody else in the lead and Max trying to battle back. That would be the true we already know he's great.
• 17:23
  That would be like the true, true test. This dude is still battling cars that are almost getting to that equal point as the Red Bull and Max is using his skill to continue to beat them.
• 17:34
  That would say something. Again nothing that needs to be said right now because he's still the best on the grid.
• 17:40
  Unless you're Cole. Again. So let's just talk about Ferrari real quick.
• 17:46
  Charles getting the podium. Allegedly first podium since 06 in Imola and take a wild guess who that would have been.
• 17:56
  I'm pretty sure I know it so I'll let you guys go.
• 17:58
  Bobby Schmurda.
• 17:59
  Oh it's Bobby Schmurda.
• 18:01
  Wait are you sure it's 06? It's Schumacher obviously.
• 18:03
  At Imola specifically.
• 18:05
  Actually I think it was called San Marino in 06. Anyway.
• 18:10
  We were just talking with this guy off right before we started filming.
• 18:13
  Bobby Schmurda?
• 18:17
  Bobby Schmurda we were just talking about him.
• 18:19
  But yeah Schumacher. Yep.
• 18:23
  And then I mean are we that surprised with how Ferrari performed this weekend?
• 18:33
  I mean considering all the practices and heading in and quality are we that surprised at their final spots?
• 18:39
  I mean the car is definitely faster but I don't think it was as big of a jump as we thought.
• 18:46
  It wasn't 4 tenths.
• 18:47
  No it wasn't 4 tenths.
• 18:48
  I mean Carlos came out and said it was over hyped.
• 18:50
  Yeah. He was saying that everything was over hyped.
• 18:53
  I've been saying all week that the upgrades aren't as big as what they are I just can't tell you the times.
• 18:58
  He also called Imola a McLaren circuit but I don't believe that in a minute.
• 19:03
  Wait he said that?
• 19:04
  Carlos Sainz quoted on Sky Sports F1 he was quoted saying that it was a McLaren circuit.
• 19:10
  That's insane because that track it was literally designed, built and made to test the Ferrari.
• 19:16
  It's 10 miles away from like it's named after one of the freaking...
• 19:20
  2006 Ferrari maybe I guess.
• 19:23
  You can look it up but like definitely reason why I put it down and I even sourced Sky Sports after that.
• 19:30
  So I mean he said that and I think it was pre-race though.
• 19:35
  I don't know if that was post.
• 19:36
  It might have been pre-race.
• 19:37
  Yeah when you're racing at a McLaren circuit blah blah blah type deal.
• 19:40
  You cannot say that as a Ferrari driver.
• 19:42
  He's not a Ferrari driver anymore.
• 19:43
  Oh that's true.
• 19:44
  He's not a Ferrari driver anymore.
• 19:45
  He can say whatever he wants.
• 19:46
  That's true.
• 19:47
  He's going out like Vettel went out.
• 19:49
  Yeah I was going to say he's Kimi and Vettel in their last years.
• 19:51
  Now Kimi just didn't say anything.
• 19:53
  Vettel was a little salty.
• 19:54
  Just to stay on Carlos at some point in the race I think it was actually earlier than I thought but Carlos did come on the comms and was saying like these McLaren cars are fast.
• 20:04
  Yeah.
• 20:05
  He used to talk about Oscar.
• 20:08
  Yeah he was talking about Oscar specifically.
• 20:10
  Yeah.
• 20:11
  It's tough to see how well he started off the year to where he's performing and like competing at this stage of the year.
• 20:20
  Who are you talking about Carlos?
• 20:21
  Carlos.
• 20:22
  Yeah.
• 20:23
  It's surprising.
• 20:24
  Every week instead of LeClaire I've been putting Carlos because I'm like he's going to have a comeback.
• 20:28
  He's going to have a comeback.
• 20:29
  I keep putting him on my podium.
• 20:30
  He's going to have his comeback week and it never happens.
• 20:32
  Do you think the strategies are extremely different between LeClaire and Carlos or not so much?
• 20:37
  I don't know.
• 20:38
  I'm not a McLaren fan.
• 20:39
  Ferrari.
• 20:40
  I'm sorry a Ferrari fan so I'm not going super in depth on it but do you think they're running different strategies?
• 20:45
  Ferrari seems to kind of based on the race at least watching it they kind of base it on who's the better driver that race.
• 20:50
  I mean every time it's like.
• 20:51
  Which is probably how you should do it.
• 20:53
  We're going to favor it this way.
• 20:54
  This guy's going to pit first.
• 20:55
  This guy's going to.
• 20:56
  They favor it based on the better driver so I don't think it's based on that.
• 20:59
  I think LeClaire's just been racing better recently.
• 21:02
  Sure.
• 21:03
  I mean fair enough.
• 21:07
  Does Carlos.
• 21:08
  Can Carlos beat out LeClaire this weekend you think in Monaco?
• 21:13
  Let's talk about that when we get to Monaco.
• 21:14
  I don't think so.
• 21:15
  We can.
• 21:16
  Yeah 100% good call.
• 21:17
  I have some stuff to say.
• 21:18
  That's what we should be.
• 21:19
  Okay.
• 21:20
  Let's wait then.
• 21:21
  He's got some stuff to say.
• 21:22
  Merck finishing 6 and 7.
• 21:24
  Did I say 8 and 9 or 7 and 8?
• 21:28
  For what?
• 21:29
  Yeah.
• 21:30
  In last.
• 21:31
  I think I said 7 and 8 as well earlier.
• 21:32
  Okay.
• 21:33
  So no they did finish 6 and 7.
• 21:35
  Obviously in front of Checo which might have been because of strategy who knows.
• 21:40
  I put one of them outside of the 10th.
• 21:42
  That was wrong.
• 21:43
  My bad.
• 21:44
  And George with the fastest lap.
• 21:45
  Yeah.
• 21:46
  They definitely like I mean they meant to do that.
• 21:48
  They put him into the pits just to get that fast lap.
• 21:50
  No for sure.
• 21:51
  Because he had the time to do it.
• 21:52
  How many points did you get again for fast lap?
• 21:53
  I know I've asked that before.
• 21:54
  It is one point.
• 21:55
  So it's interesting.
• 21:56
  We were talking about this.
• 21:57
  The commentators were talking about this.
• 21:58
  He was ahead of Hamilton.
• 21:59
  Yes.
• 22:00
  And he finished behind Hamilton because he went to get that fastest.
• 22:03
  What is the point difference between 6 and 7?
• 22:05
  It's not a single point is it?
• 22:06
  Two points?
• 22:07
  So we lost out on a point.
• 22:09
  Grand scheme of things he's still ahead of Hamilton.
• 22:11
  Probably not the biggest deal but I know he was talking about it on the radio for at
• 22:15
  least a little bit.
• 22:16
  100% he was.
• 22:17
  I thought did he straight up ask if Lewis would give him a spot back and they pretty
• 22:22
  much said no.
• 22:23
  I could have sworn I saw that but I could completely be wrong in making that issue.
• 22:27
  I was watching the race with someone I can't remember.
• 22:30
  I know it was brought up.
• 22:31
  I can't remember if it was brought up by the person I was watching with or the commentators
• 22:33
  or the commentators.
• 22:34
  No it was definitely something on the TV.
• 22:37
  Somebody brought that up and I don't know if it was comms or the commentators but I
• 22:40
  could have sworn that George did ask.
• 22:44
  If I get back out or if I box will Hamilton give me my spot back and I'm pretty sure they
• 22:50
  said no and then they said box box for George to get that fastest lap.
• 22:57
  That is interesting.
• 22:58
  So is that just like a little bit of if it's true right if it's true is that just a loyalty
• 23:03
  thing to Lewis?
• 23:04
  You know for Mercedes?
• 23:05
  No it's 6 place.
• 23:06
  Again it's not like it matters that much though.
• 23:09
  But I think if Russell was a faster driver that day so they're like let's get the tires
• 23:13
  on you to get that extra point for the team not just for your.
• 23:15
  Yeah but it's all part of the thing.
• 23:16
  I think it's part of the team.
• 23:17
  At the end of the day they get the team one more point.
• 23:20
  I would agree with y'all but Hamilton could have done the exact same thing.
• 23:23
  He wasn't faster than Russell.
• 23:26
  But unlike Soss he could have done it I think.
• 23:28
  Yeah Soss is going to get to the.
• 23:31
  I agree I definitely agree with you he's not faster than Russell on this track but he had
• 23:35
  the time I mean what Paris was almost a minute to oh wait is that 2L?
• 23:41
  Yeah that's 2L.
• 23:43
  Hamilton had the time though I think.
• 23:46
  Did he have the time?
• 23:47
  Maybe I'm wrong.
• 23:48
  I thought he had the time to make it.
• 23:49
  Or maybe if he did it he would have to fight Perez but I guess I assumed he might be able
• 23:53
  to get it.
• 23:54
  Well I guess that's a thought too.
• 23:55
  I might just be talking.
• 23:58
  Obviously we'll jump into this here soon.
• 23:59
  That's all we're doing buddy.
• 24:00
  We'll jump into this here soon but I mean Aston Martin's there that's kind of who they're
• 24:03
  fighting with right now is Aston Martin.
• 24:05
  So every point kind of matters when you're fighting at the 6th to 10th spot.
• 24:09
  Every point really matters.
• 24:10
  So I think if you're fighting for the constructors you don't want to go out in 5th.
• 24:14
  You take that one for the team.
• 24:16
  I mean you're not going to podium Russell.
• 24:19
  Go take one for the team get a point and pull at what it is.
• 24:21
  And after the race he did say he doesn't feel.
• 24:24
  I can't remember what he actually said.
• 24:26
  I literally just read it but he didn't feel like any sort of type of way about it or whatever.
• 24:30
  He's just going to move on from it.
• 24:32
  But like in the moment for sure I think he was a little bit.
• 24:35
  He was just curious what they would do I think.
• 24:37
  I think he was I don't know if he was just testing them and it's just all a game or whatever
• 24:40
  but he said he wasn't.
• 24:43
  It's definitely a question to be asked if you're putting that position.
• 24:45
  I think so.
• 24:46
  Why not?
• 24:47
  Yeah yeah why not?
• 24:48
  Because if Lewis would have given him the spot back the team still gets the same amount
• 24:53
  of points Russell just gets one more.
• 24:55
  Right yeah.
• 24:56
  The team gets one more right?
• 24:58
  No because they're going to finish the same.
• 24:59
  They're still going to finish the same points anyway.
• 25:00
  Oh you're right.
• 25:01
  Yeah yeah.
• 25:02
  I'm sorry it's been a long day.
• 25:03
  I think we're all on that boat but.
• 25:04
  Actually I think Russell would have got two more points yeah.
• 25:06
  Because he would have finished two spots he would have finished he would have got the
• 25:09
  two points and then the fastest laps.
• 25:10
  No because like you said they finished in the same position so it's just.
• 25:13
  No no but Russell would have got two more.
• 25:15
  Three.
• 25:16
  No because he got the fastest lap point anyway.
• 25:18
  Oh I see what you're saying.
• 25:19
  Because he would have finished in the spot ahead and would have given him two more points.
• 25:21
  The team would have got the same amount of points but Russell would have gotten two more
• 25:23
  points.
• 25:24
  I know Russell I was talking about the yeah you're right.
• 25:26
  I know we have a lot of overseas listeners this is uh this is American Public Schools
• 25:30
  here.
• 25:31
  I was just about to say this is only twos and threes and I'm like this is too much for
• 25:36
  me right now I'm out.
• 25:39
  Let's talk about that Aston real quick.
• 25:42
  Alonso pretty much starting from the pits if I'm not mistaken.
• 25:44
  He has to change his songs.
• 25:45
  And then he just had troubles all day.
• 25:47
  He had trouble all weekend.
• 25:48
  And then they pulled him out of the race with like five left or ten left or something.
• 25:52
  I could have sworn they just took him off the track and retired the car.
• 25:55
  I could be wrong but.
• 25:56
  Yeah no you're right.
• 25:57
  Oh wait no that was Albon.
• 25:58
  I mean.
• 25:59
  Oh that was Albon.
• 26:00
  Yeah you're right who also had issues.
• 26:02
  But Alonso like he did not do well in the race unfortunately.
• 26:05
  He did not catch up.
• 26:06
  He was just one lap down though so it wasn't a DNF.
• 26:08
  Is it just is it just car issues right now because they haven't been as consistent lately
• 26:13
  or at least Alonso for sure hasn't been as consistent lately.
• 26:16
  And you know we saw Stroll in points.
• 26:19
  Yeah even though a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
• 26:22
  I mean pretty much.
• 26:23
  Pretty much.
• 26:24
  To be honest though Stroll had a good race.
• 26:26
  He was actually overtaking.
• 26:27
  He was up there pretty much a majority of the race I would say in points.
• 26:33
  I don't know.
• 26:34
  I think I'm just like so blinded by the hate on Stroll that it just doesn't matter.
• 26:40
  But I did see him get a point a couple points though.
• 26:43
  You want to play a fun game.
• 26:45
  What is that?
• 26:46
  How many more times is he in points the rest of the year.
• 26:48
  Over unders two.
• 26:51
  Over unders two.
• 26:52
  Yeah I would say over as well.
• 26:54
  Oh yeah over.
• 26:55
  I think he's going to get points a few more times.
• 26:56
  A lot of season left.
• 26:57
  I don't think we're going to see a lot of a lot more races where he outscores Alonso
• 27:01
  but I think he could fit in ninth and fifth.
• 27:04
  He will not be outscoring Alonso in most races.
• 27:06
  I'll take the odds and go the under if you guys are all going the over for two.
• 27:09
  Under on.
• 27:10
  I'd say the more accurate number would be three and a half.
• 27:12
  Under on the two.
• 27:13
  That'd be a debate to be had.
• 27:15
  The half is where he crashes his car and half of the car gets over the finish line.
• 27:19
  Well that's either three or four.
• 27:21
  Okay.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:23
  Well I mean there's not really much else to say about them.
• 27:26
  I mean we can maybe mention them when we get to Monaco.
• 27:30
  Mention the same team see what we're thinking but I don't know what they got.
• 27:33
  They got to have some upgrades coming you would you would hope.
• 27:36
  Hopefully.
• 27:37
  I know that's what I'm saying.
• 27:38
  Everybody else is upgrading driving away from them now.
• 27:40
  You got the right guy in the car.
• 27:41
  Obviously had a bad week.
• 27:42
  We got the right guy in the car to put upgrades and let him win.
• 27:45
  You do.
• 27:46
  You do.
• 27:47
  Especially in Monaco.
• 27:48
  But it was weird to see both Mercedes finishing.
• 27:50
  Obviously Alonso had a bad race but both Mercedes finishing in front of Astin's this week.
• 27:55
  So real quick Vcarb.
• 27:59
  Yuki right before we came on we were just talking consistency with Yuki.
• 28:03
  It's not even about the amount but the dude is obviously showing that he's consistent
• 28:08
  enough to be in points almost every week right now.
• 28:12
  Can't say that about Danny Rick but.
• 28:16
  Perez keep racing like that.
• 28:18
  He's got to.
• 28:19
  No I'm saying Perez keep racing like that.
• 28:20
  You got Yuki who's a young gun coming up.
• 28:23
  They haven't filled that spot yet.
• 28:25
  No way.
• 28:26
  No way.
• 28:27
  Not happening.
• 28:28
  But I think he absolutely will be in Vcarb again and they're going to keep him around
• 28:32
  at this point for sure.
• 28:33
  I don't think he has a shot at that Red Bull seat but that'd be wild.
• 28:37
  I think Tchaikov has that spot next year.
• 28:40
  They signed Yuki to another deal.
• 28:41
  Let him have one more year.
• 28:42
  Tchaikov doesn't come back to Red Bull in 2025.
• 28:44
  And if Yuki is consistent again why not?
• 28:46
  Especially if they're going to keep putting effort into that Vcarb.
• 28:50
  I don't mind that idea.
• 28:51
  And they did the simulator and I think they had the fourth or fifth fastest car this weekend.
• 28:55
  Qualifying showed that.
• 28:57
  I mean qualifying they were both top 10.
• 28:59
  I was really hopeful Danny Rick would get some points this week.
• 29:03
  I'm always going to like him.
• 29:04
  I'm kind of giving up on Danny Rick.
• 29:06
  I can't lie.
• 29:07
  I've always liked him.
• 29:08
  I'd like to see him in a seat next year but I just, I don't know if that's going to happen.
• 29:13
  I don't think it'll be Vcarb.
• 29:14
  You know what's bumming though?
• 29:16
  I feel like we're not seeing as much communication.
• 29:20
  Whatever you call it on the side there.
• 29:21
  The communication basically with Yuki.
• 29:24
  He's always fun to see communication.
• 29:25
  He's always fired up.
• 29:26
  He's always fired up.
• 29:27
  He's a good clickbait.
• 29:28
  He's a good soundbite too.
• 29:29
  Give us what we want.
• 29:31
  Give us some more Yuki.
• 29:33
  It's all just asterisks on the...
• 29:36
  Yeah, 100%.
• 29:39
  Real quick before we wrap, kind of wrap the recap on Imola Williams.
• 29:46
  Albond dude, that is a string of bad luck I would say.
• 29:50
  I think the dude actually continues to show that he still has skill.
• 29:54
  With just the state of Williams right now in general, I think you put this down Joe,
• 30:00
  that Williams is in shambles a little bit.
• 30:03
  You have one driver that can't drive and the other driver is getting screwed by his team.
• 30:06
  It sucks.
• 30:07
  It's a bad position to be in.
• 30:09
  They have, I mean they're struggling on and off track and that's not good.
• 30:14
  That's not how you get points and they haven't.
• 30:17
  Would you rather be in a Haas right now?
• 30:19
  No, 100%.
• 30:20
  Okay, I thought you were about to say no.
• 30:22
  I had to register what you were saying.
• 30:24
  I know, usually we're programmed to just assume absolutely not.
• 30:28
  No, we don't want to be in a Haas.
• 30:29
  But now that narrative is changing.
• 30:32
  Haas has obviously fixed their off track issues.
• 30:35
  If you asked me three or four years ago, we saw they literally couldn't put wheels on
• 30:41
  a car for an entire race versus now.
• 30:44
  They haven't had really any pit issues I don't think.
• 30:47
  It's all been on track for the most part.
• 30:49
  Do you think it's a hurt to the Williams?
• 30:51
  Obviously it started last year, but do you think it's a hurt to Williams for their president
• 30:54
  to be the, is it the president?
• 30:56
  Yeah, the president to be the engineer and not just like, you know, like the Williams.
• 31:01
  James Valls, he's the principal and the chief engineer.
• 31:05
  Is he really?
• 31:06
  I don't think he's the chief engineer.
• 31:07
  No, I was saying president, he's the principal.
• 31:09
  He's the principal, he's an engineer.
• 31:10
  He's the only one that's really an engineer.
• 31:12
  I feel like that position is more dedicated to somebody who can lead and can build a team.
• 31:17
  But he proved himself at Mercedes.
• 31:19
  I'll also say Toto's right hand manned at Mercedes.
• 31:22
  So he was like, he wasn't the engineer in realm, but he was like, he developed out of
• 31:26
  that into that leadership role to be kind of Toto's right hand man.
• 31:29
  I just feel like it's a different ball game right now.
• 31:31
  Like with this, especially with this type of team you're going into.
• 31:34
  And I think because he was Toto's right hand man, that's why he gets this spot.
• 31:38
  I just don't know if it's the right spot for him.
• 31:41
  That's fair.
• 31:42
  Why not follow the legacy of like a newie or something like that?
• 31:44
  Why try to be a wolf?
• 31:45
  Why try to be a Toto?
• 31:46
  You're never going to be a Toto.
• 31:47
  Maybe you want that right there.
• 31:49
  Money dude.
• 31:50
  And why?
• 31:51
  You don't want that challenge.
• 31:54
  You're at the top of your game as an engineer, not newie, right?
• 31:57
  But you're at the top of your personal game and you don't want that next challenge that
• 32:01
  maybe is team principal and running the show?
• 32:04
  So as far as the drive to survive and the episodes and all that, I kind of loved the
• 32:10
  president or the principal.
• 32:12
  Team principal.
• 32:14
  We know what you're saying.
• 32:15
  But the principal, I kind of loved him through that and just like everything he was talking
• 32:18
  about and everything.
• 32:19
  I thought he was pretty awesome guy and I thought he like honestly I was bought in.
• 32:24
  I was like, I'm going to hammer the overall year on Williams because of like just how
• 32:27
  he talked and his demeanor and everything.
• 32:30
  But I just not paying off as much as it should this year, especially when you have somebody
• 32:32
  like Albon in the car.
• 32:33
  I feel like, like I feel like they should be more designed and just everything around
• 32:38
  the car should be better because of the mindset that he thinks.
• 32:43
  The one thing with Williams though that kills them is they manufacture their own parts.
• 32:48
  So if they need a new part, they have to and they don't have the money.
• 32:51
  So if they need a new part, they have to go and build it.
• 32:53
  You know what they're all, when they were also engine they're running?
• 32:56
  Mercedes engine.
• 32:57
  Right.
• 32:58
  Yeah, but so is Aston.
• 33:01
  Aston.
• 33:02
  Yeah, but let's, there's still like a huge gap.
• 33:05
  I mean, it's more than just the engine, you know, but it's still like you have, you can
• 33:10
  make an argument the worst power unit on the market right now.
• 33:13
  So you're already kind of behind the Honda, the Ferrari and I guess Alpine still is using
• 33:20
  it.
• 33:21
  So what's that say for McLaren then?
• 33:22
  They're also Mercedes.
• 33:23
  McLaren's Mercedes?
• 33:24
  They are indeed.
• 33:25
  That's what I was thinking.
• 33:26
  McLaren's Mercedes.
• 33:27
  I thought they were, I thought they were a Ferrari engine.
• 33:28
  Nope.
• 33:29
  Do you think that this, do you think this principal has a short shelf life though?
• 33:33
  Being at Williams?
• 33:34
  I don't think so.
• 33:35
  He's got a little bit of a disadvantage.
• 33:36
  How long has he been principal?
• 33:37
  It was his second year.
• 33:38
  Last year was his first year.
• 33:39
  Yeah.
• 33:40
  Nah, you got to give him a little bit more time than that I would think.
• 33:43
  I mean, if it's the same stuff next year, then new regs.
• 33:47
  It's like every, every, maybe they're building for that car.
• 33:49
  Maybe they're building for the new regulations and everything with this guy behind the helm
• 33:52
  being the engineer background.
• 33:54
  But at the same time, it's like, I mean, every time you watch Drive to Survivor, anything
• 33:58
  about Williams, it's we want to get back to that car that was winning.
• 34:00
  We don't want to get back to this car.
• 34:01
  Well, they have an amazing history, right?
• 34:03
  They got a really long history and they, of course they want to get back to that.
• 34:08
  They're like the Steelers.
• 34:09
  Let's throw them back.
• 34:10
  I mean, we're happy.
• 34:11
  Well, we also got to look at it this way.
• 34:13
  The last time that Ferrari won a WDC wasn't too far ahead of Williams.
• 34:19
  But they're still winning races at least and competing for the top podiums, right?
• 34:23
  Yeah.
• 34:24
  Yeah.
• 34:25
  With that, real quick to rap Williams, what is the best move for Albont?
• 34:32
  Is it worse?
• 34:33
  Well, it's already been decided.
• 34:34
  Oh, that's right.
• 34:35
  It's our first news.
• 34:36
  That's right.
• 34:37
  That's right.
• 34:38
  With that, let's head into news, Kev.
• 35:38
  All right.
• 36:06
  So back at it with the news, obviously I started going into other stuff.
• 36:11
  That's how the mind goes.
• 36:12
  You know what I mean?
• 36:15
  But with that, for some reason I forgot that Albont had already signed a multi-year contract
• 36:20
  with Williams.
• 36:21
  Is it three?
• 36:22
  I thought I saw that it was three.
• 36:23
  Is that true or not?
• 36:24
  They just said multi.
• 36:25
  I don't think they said.
• 36:26
  Could have sworn I said it.
• 36:27
  I saw it three though.
• 36:28
  It's not going to carry him into 2026 at least.
• 36:29
  That's the part that's interesting to me.
• 36:31
  And maybe that's maybe like what Cole was saying.
• 36:34
  Maybe that's kind of what they're waiting on and maybe focusing more on the new regs.
• 36:38
  But I just think I think I can't get behind that.
• 36:40
  I don't either because I think it's I think that's bad business, dude.
• 36:43
  I don't even can at the moment because they don't know what the regs are.
• 36:46
  True.
• 36:47
  Well, they have a good idea.
• 36:49
  They've released a lot of them because you have to you have to allow the teams to build
• 36:51
  their engines.
• 36:52
  You got to get more.
• 36:53
  Oh, sure.
• 36:54
  That's fair.
• 36:55
  OK.
• 36:56
  But it's like but you're limited in terms of like like sim hours.
• 36:58
  Obviously wind tunnel comes into play too.
• 37:00
  But it's you just you in the position when you're consistently seventh and the highest
• 37:06
  from eighth through tenth, like you can't put your money in the next year's car because
• 37:10
  you have to get that next step to get money for next year's.
• 37:14
  And how did like that?
• 37:15
  And how does and how does that work?
• 37:17
  Explain to some of the newbies or whatever about finishing really quick and constructors
• 37:21
  and the money you get and blah, blah, blah.
• 37:25
  So there's a huge difference between where you place in the overall like team constructor
• 37:28
  championship.
• 37:29
  I think they change on a year to year basis based off of revenue profits, all that fun
• 37:33
  stuff.
• 37:35
  But so like the difference between finishing seventh and tenth, which is only three, four
• 37:39
  spots in the actual thing, is millions upon millions upon millions of dollars that you're
• 37:43
  bringing in from the actual F1.
• 37:46
  So it's like you are super strapped in terms of the money you can have when you're a team
• 37:49
  like a Williams and Alpine Haas where you don't have those powerhouse of like the Red
• 37:55
  Bull, the Mercedes, the Ferrari behind you.
• 37:56
  They just they have unlimited money.
• 37:59
  That's not the same for those lower teams, especially a team like Williams, who manufactures
• 38:02
  their own parts in their factory.
• 38:04
  So like they build everything there.
• 38:06
  They need as much money as they can to keep that production going.
• 38:08
  We saw that when Sergeant or Albon messed up his car and then Logan or Logan had to give
• 38:13
  up his car to Albon go in like they didn't have an extra chassis with them because they
• 38:17
  didn't have an extra chassis.
• 38:19
  And you know, like that doesn't happen on any other team.
• 38:22
  And you explain that perfectly because that's exactly why it matters.
• 38:26
  You got you got new F1 fans that came in during the Lewis domination or or the Max domination
• 38:31
  right now that are new to the sport that are just like so basically outside of the podium,
• 38:36
  it doesn't matter.
• 38:37
  No, no, no, no, no, it does matter 100 percent.
• 38:40
  So I already had a feeling that you would just explain it perfectly.
• 38:43
  So that's why I wanted you to just run with it.
• 38:45
  So I think that's perfect for anybody new to it, you know, that now knows why why it
• 38:51
  matters so much.
• 38:52
  This is like the only sport, if you will, where you can root for three different teams
• 39:00
  because you have people fighting at the top, there's people fighting at the mid and the
• 39:03
  people fighting at the bottom.
• 39:04
  And I remember I was talking to my brother about this and I was like, you know, what's
• 39:09
  so like, you know, we're kind of chatting about it, like, you know, what why is so interesting?
• 39:12
  Like and he was like, who do you watch?
• 39:13
  And I list off a couple of teams like like Haas down low, you know, I like it.
• 39:17
  I was just listening off teams.
• 39:19
  And I was like, because there's so many different categories that you're fighting for.
• 39:23
  It's all based around money and everything like this.
• 39:25
  And like this could be a really freaking big year for Haas.
• 39:27
  It could be huge.
• 39:28
  Yeah, seriously.
• 39:29
  It's just high since their first season in F1.
• 39:32
  It's just unfortunate for them that Yuki is doing what he's doing for Vygaard.
• 39:36
  Yeah, for sure.
• 39:37
  But like it's just it's like the coolest thing that out of the teams, the 10 teams, there's
• 39:42
  so much variety you can root for.
• 39:44
  Like you don't have it's like you don't have to have a favorite team.
• 39:47
  You can have a favorite driver, you like all these things, but like, well, it depends on
• 39:50
  who you ask.
• 39:51
  You go ask some of these diehards that, you know, at some of these tracks around the world,
• 39:56
  they're going to be more American.
• 39:58
  So obviously we like multiple teams and the Tifosi, the Papaya Army, the Dutch.
• 40:05
  But like if you like so like the best reference we always make is football.
• 40:08
  Banshee the boys, there's tons of football talk, right?
• 40:11
  So there's like there's a team that's trash.
• 40:13
  You're not rooting for your team to win the Super Bowl and then also rooting for that
• 40:16
  this team to get the number one overall pick.
• 40:18
  Right.
• 40:19
  Like if anything, you have like an AFC and an NFC team, but even that it's like, you
• 40:23
  don't want them to play each other in the Super Bowl.
• 40:25
  And that's so weird.
• 40:26
  Like nobody does that.
• 40:27
  You have one diehard team.
• 40:28
  That's every sport out here.
• 40:30
  So like it's kind of cool where you can kind of be like, OK, Haas will never beat Red Bull,
• 40:35
  but I can still root for Haas and not be a traitor to like my favorite team.
• 40:39
  Which is definitely not Red Bull for you.
• 40:41
  That could have been a meme.
• 40:46
  Darn it.
• 40:47
  But yeah, I mean, Alex Albon, I think it's probably a good move for him.
• 40:52
  Might as well see what happens.
• 40:53
  How old is he?
• 40:54
  He's got to be like 27, 28.
• 40:55
  He's the same age as George.
• 40:56
  Like Gaston, right?
• 40:57
  Like 26.
• 40:58
  Yeah, I think he's like, I think he's mid-deleted.
• 40:59
  Oh wait no, he might be 25 actually because he's just because of new ranks, right?
• 41:06
  He's 28.
• 41:07
  Only because of that.
• 41:08
  He's Max's age.
• 41:09
  That's right, because him, Charles and Max carted.
• 41:11
  Oh for sure.
• 41:12
  And the reason why I say that because of the new regs is just like, it's just a new playing
• 41:17
  field for everybody.
• 41:19
  So I'm just curious, like, is Williams going to figure it out by then?
• 41:22
  And maybe he likes being there enough that it's worth it to him.
• 41:27
  But then he signs the multi-year deal and then this weekend happens and it's like, it's
• 41:31
  just the same stuff.
• 41:32
  Yeah, I think that's got to be frustrating.
• 41:35
  But do you think he really wants to be at Williams and build Williams up like he has
• 41:39
  in two years?
• 41:40
  Or is it just that he doesn't or maybe he just hasn't gotten anyone talk to him?
• 41:45
  I think he's locking down a stepping stone 100% to get to a better team.
• 41:51
  But he's got to show it.
• 41:53
  I feel like the last two years, that's what he's been doing and it just hasn't paid off.
• 41:57
  And largely that's Williams' fault.
• 41:59
  I don't think that's his fault.
• 42:00
  I think he's a decent driver.
• 42:01
  Are you going to go parallel though?
• 42:02
  I think that's the biggest kicker.
• 42:03
  Like a lot of these teams that probably offered him, he's going parallel with a move.
• 42:08
  He's comfortable in a car.
• 42:09
  He can perform.
• 42:10
  He's shown he can perform in this car.
• 42:11
  He's comfortable in the car.
• 42:12
  Why leave when you can be in the same parallel car and compete with those other guys in the
• 42:16
  other cars instead of jumping ship and having to like basically relearn a car almost?
• 42:21
  I think that's an extremely good point.
• 42:22
  I think the biggest thing that's hurting him is there's not a spot on those big teams open
• 42:26
  that are you who you going to take?
• 42:28
  Sians or Albarn?
• 42:29
  You're taking neither of them.
• 42:32
  You're taking neither of them because there's no spots open.
• 42:36
  That's what it comes down to.
• 42:37
  It was a trick question.
• 42:38
  You got us.
• 42:39
  You got us.
• 42:40
  That's funny.
• 42:41
  Well I still think Carlos has a shot at that Red Bull seat.
• 42:48
  They didn't sign Checo yet.
• 42:50
  They can't afford him.
• 42:52
  I think Sians is going to go to...
• 42:54
  You think so?
• 42:55
  They can't afford him?
• 42:56
  Well I mean...
• 42:57
  Horner came out and said it.
• 42:58
  Or who is it?
• 42:59
  Was it Marco?
• 43:00
  Who came out?
• 43:01
  Marco.
• 43:02
  They can't match Audis offer.
• 43:03
  Yeah that's right.
• 43:05
  Sians is all but in that Audi seat next year.
• 43:08
  And the only thing that Mercedes is offering him is a one year deal.
• 43:13
  Because they're keeping that spot open for Max and Kimi.
• 43:15
  Right.
• 43:16
  Max and Kimi.
• 43:17
  Oh my god.
• 43:18
  We're going to lock that one up and keep that ready to go for another time with Max to Merck.
• 43:25
  But yeah in terms of the Albon aspect of it, what better opportunities does he have?
• 43:33
  At the end of the day he doesn't.
• 43:35
  You have to keep your spot on the grid.
• 43:36
  Like Cole is saying, it'd be a parallel move.
• 43:38
  Yeah you have to keep your spot on the grid.
• 43:39
  If you got a team that's offering you a multi year deal, worth millions upon millions upon
• 43:44
  millions of dollars, you're securing your financial.
• 43:46
  To stay in F1.
• 43:47
  And you're still doing what you love.
• 43:49
  What you think they'd love at this point.
• 43:51
  I don't know if Max does.
• 43:52
  But I think to Max it's just a job that he excels at.
• 43:59
  And staying with Williams, that second seat is obviously open right now because Sargeant
• 44:03
  is not coming back.
• 44:04
  So chances.
• 44:05
  I don't know.
• 44:06
  So I got some news on this.
• 44:08
  I heard and I sent some of these to Tyler.
• 44:10
  I have these wild news things that I found on F1.
• 44:13
  And a lot of these have came true.
• 44:15
  On the dark web.
• 44:16
  F1 dark web.
• 44:17
  Yeah, based on the previous predictions I put out, a lot of these have came true.
• 44:20
  Right?
• 44:21
  True.
• 44:22
  And there is news that recently they have put in a bid to get rid of Sargeant and they
• 44:27
  have put in the bid or whatever to get Kimi his super license.
• 44:34
  Whoa.
• 44:35
  But it's going to take a couple weeks.
• 44:38
  So it wouldn't be until three or four weeks where he'd be able to get a super license.
• 44:42
  But apparently.
• 44:43
  Kimi Antonelli.
• 44:44
  Antonelli.
• 44:45
  Like officially.
• 44:46
  Let's not confuse this with Kimi Reichen.
• 44:47
  Oh yeah, Kimi Antonelli.
• 44:48
  Like officially has put in that bid request, whatever it may be.
• 44:52
  For Kimi Antonelli to take over for Sargeant this year.
• 44:54
  This season.
• 44:55
  This season.
• 44:56
  It's probably not going to get granted because he's 17.
• 44:58
  That's the whole, that's the huge thing right now.
• 45:01
  But didn't we talk about that, that where it did get granted for Max or did not?
• 45:04
  It was a different.
• 45:05
  Oh they changed it after him.
• 45:06
  Oh okay.
• 45:07
  That's interesting.
• 45:08
  Money changes everybody's minds and Sargeant, like realistically.
• 45:11
  He's the next best thing right?
• 45:13
  Who's paying him?
• 45:14
  It ain't Williams.
• 45:17
  Williams isn't forking over that money.
• 45:18
  I think we know who it is.
• 45:19
  Yeah.
• 45:20
  It's Mercedes.
• 45:21
  It's Mercedes.
• 45:22
  Yeah.
• 45:23
  It's Mercedes.
• 45:24
  It's Mercedes.
• 45:25
  He's going to get it to them to get them going earlier in the wheels.
• 45:26
  See what you got.
• 45:27
  Get them in an F1 car.
• 45:28
  So look at it from.
• 45:29
  Yeah, a crappy F1 car.
• 45:30
  A broad F1.
• 45:31
  But you're right.
• 45:32
  A broad F1 look, right?
• 45:33
  If you're looking at it from F1.
• 45:36
  F1 overview.
• 45:37
  Overview.
• 45:38
  The Sargeant leaving F1 is good for F1 because right now he's kind of a laughing stock of
• 45:43
  F1.
• 45:44
  Bringing in a new young gun mid-season, that's a fun, exciting play.
• 45:49
  If you're trying to build faces in America, do young, exciting plays like this.
• 45:53
  Let's look at last year.
• 45:54
  DeVries was not working out.
• 45:56
  They brought in Danny Rick.
• 45:57
  All the media.
• 45:58
  All of a sudden there's news and all this.
• 46:00
  Yeah, you're right.
• 46:01
  What's the long-term goal of F1 really?
• 46:04
  If you're F1 as a platform or as this huge industry, your goal is to go worldwide.
• 46:10
  The start of that and the biggest moneymaker in that is a capitalistic America who's going
• 46:15
  to blow it up.
• 46:16
  You want to make money, you come to America.
• 46:17
  I mean we're getting an F1 race in Chicago.
• 46:19
  You want to make money, you go to America.
• 46:21
  I didn't hear that yet.
• 46:22
  Really?
• 46:23
  No, I hope that doesn't happen.
• 46:24
  It's already been accepted.
• 46:25
  We have too many races here.
• 46:27
  That is weird.
• 46:28
  I don't like that.
• 46:29
  Hey, it's closer and cheaper for us than the Vegas, baby!
• 46:32
  As far as the money mecca to throw money behind sports and buy gear and everything, it's America.
• 46:37
  That's a super good point.
• 46:38
  All the time it's America, right?
• 46:39
  So Sargeant only hurts.
• 46:41
  Merchandise, I would agree with that.
• 46:43
  I think the UAE would counter that with all the money they put into sports.
• 46:48
  But if you're looking at it from that perspective with Sargeant, he's just hurting American
• 46:55
  stock right now.
• 46:56
  Because everybody's like, if you're an American fan you want to root for somebody who can
• 46:58
  do something in a car.
• 46:59
  And right now it sucks to root for somebody who's American.
• 47:03
  Finally we get an American on the grid and he's not performing.
• 47:06
  It's tough to watch.
• 47:07
  He's out of every race.
• 47:08
  He wrecks.
• 47:09
  Somebody else is taking his spot.
• 47:11
  Because his car broke and now he gets his car.
• 47:14
  It's the ultimate slap in the face.
• 47:19
  Like you don't watch the Olympics through for other countries, you watch it through
• 47:21
  for your country.
• 47:22
  But if your country loses every event, you're not tuning in.
• 47:25
  Yeah, no, I mean it's a good point.
• 47:29
  I don't know if Kimmy would grow it in America per se.
• 47:32
  He'd grow it as a whole though.
• 47:34
  As F1 give it new life, as a mid-season jolt.
• 47:37
  I do like that idea 100%.
• 47:39
  It doesn't hurt the...
• 47:41
  It's not that it hurts America, like the American viewership.
• 47:44
  It's not that it jumps like a huge surge of people wanting to watch from America.
• 47:48
  But right now I think Sargent is hurting the American viewership for people that want to
• 47:52
  watch it and root for an American.
• 47:53
  That's fair.
• 47:54
  That's fair.
• 47:55
  And I want to move on.
• 47:56
  We got Hus.
• 47:57
  Yeah.
• 47:58
  But I mean, better this season.
• 47:59
  Until they went Russian for a second.
• 48:02
  No.
• 48:03
  That was a dark time.
• 48:08
  But now that threw me out.
• 48:11
  Who was I going to go with?
• 48:15
  If you bring in Kimmy and that gets accepted and all that, could that, not does it, but
• 48:21
  could it hurt his career in any way possible?
• 48:24
  The fact that you're throwing him into a Williams car that's not amazing right now.
• 48:28
  No.
• 48:29
  I honestly don't think so.
• 48:30
  Because I think there's no better opportunity for a young cat to start than in one of those
• 48:34
  lower cars.
• 48:35
  Right?
• 48:36
  If it's as worse as it's going to get right now, then it's only looking up from there.
• 48:40
  You also see what you got.
• 48:42
  Before you commit to a year in a Mercedes, you see what you got in a Williams, see if
• 48:46
  he can handle the pressure, see if he can control an F1 car.
• 48:48
  Now, obviously he's done tests.
• 48:50
  There's more ways to look at it than getting in live racing, but that's the best bet.
• 48:54
  And can he overtake in an F1 car?
• 48:57
  Can he defend in an F1 car?
• 48:58
  It doesn't matter the car at the end of the day when you're gauging just to see how he
• 49:01
  performs and what he has.
• 49:03
  It's the same pace or the same route that Russell took.
• 49:07
  100%.
• 49:08
  100%.
• 49:09
  And that's what we keep talking about with the drivers and just their skill in general.
• 49:16
  Every week, one of us mentions Verstappen's skill.
• 49:20
  That's what this is testing.
• 49:21
  It's testing his skill at the F1 level in a bad car.
• 49:25
  And then if he does well, then he probably is in that Merc seat next year then.
• 49:28
  They don't have to worry about it.
• 49:29
  I don't think they can afford to put a rookie who's skipped levels, albeit he's really good.
• 49:36
  I don't know if they can afford to put him in a car that high up.
• 49:39
  I think he's got to.
• 49:40
  I just think he's smart.
• 49:41
  Yeah.
• 49:42
  I think he's got to.
• 49:43
  Like you said, we saw Boatos to Merc and then we saw Russell to Merc.
• 49:46
  I think Landel's the only one I can think of that has gotten McLaren and stayed in
• 49:51
  McLaren.
• 49:52
  But even Verstappen, he started at, it wasn't called Alfatari, it was whatever before.
• 49:57
  Toro Rosa.
• 49:58
  I think it was Toro Rosa before going into Red Bull.
• 49:59
  But that's, I mean, Red Bull you got to look at a little bit differently because it's their
• 50:02
  junior seat.
• 50:03
  Look at Albion, went into the Toro Rosa, went to the Red Bull spot.
• 50:06
  But the Toro Rosa still wasn't doing as good as the Red Bull.
• 50:09
  Oh no, no, no, 100%.
• 50:10
  But it's like, it's different with the development of Red Bull drivers though because it's that
• 50:14
  junior pro.
• 50:15
  Yeah, sure.
• 50:16
  I see all Alfamale into Charles Leclerc, another one, Alfamale into Ferrari.
• 50:20
  I just see even if they're not technically sister teams, they're definitely development
• 50:24
  teams.
• 50:25
  Oh, they're 100%.
• 50:26
  I wouldn't see the junior teams without being branded by Mercedes and Ferrari.
• 50:29
  100%.
• 50:30
  So with that real quick, that kind of makes this next part a little bit interesting now
• 50:34
  with the rumors of Bottas maybe wiggling his way into Williams for next season.
• 50:39
  Now obviously if Kimi does well and then goes into the Merc seat and then Bottas, maybe he
• 50:44
  does go to Williams.
• 50:45
  But if that doesn't happen and Kimi stays at Williams another year, or do you think
• 50:49
  that's not even a possibility, then maybe Bottas is out of a job.
• 50:55
  But I think somebody would pick him up.
• 50:57
  I don't think Kimi would be in Williams next year.
• 51:04
  I think he would be, if he comes into Williams this year, he's in Merc next year or out of
• 51:09
  F1.
• 51:10
  Or he's out of F1.
• 51:11
  Just because when you're talking about a Merc spot, it's a Merc spot, right?
• 51:16
  It's a prime spot.
• 51:17
  It's one of three prime spots that historically, or not historically, but over the course of
• 51:21
  the last 20 years.
• 51:22
  Over the moment, 100%, it's still a spot you want to be in.
• 51:26
  So it's just like you can't just take a chance.
• 51:31
  And at the end of the day, it also goes to who's available.
• 51:34
  I'm really, really surprised that Merc is not throwing a lot more at Science.
• 51:40
  But I think Kimi's.
• 51:41
  It's because of the plan of Kimi.
• 51:42
  It's because of the plan of Kimi.
• 51:44
  And I have another thing about Science real quick.
• 51:47
  I heard that Audi is the top landing spot for Science.
• 51:52
  But I heard that the 26th of this month, Monaco, is the deciding factor where he has to make
• 51:59
  a decision on Audi.
• 52:00
  On Audi?
• 52:01
  Really?
• 52:02
  They look elsewhere.
• 52:03
  Oh, that's crazy.
• 52:04
  And I think that's 100% fair.
• 52:06
  Imagine tomorrow we find out that Carlos is on.
• 52:09
  That's how it's going to happen, dude.
• 52:10
  Every time we get done recording something, news happens the next day.
• 52:14
  I think that's what happened with the Albion extension.
• 52:16
  It was.
• 52:17
  Yeah, it was the 90%.
• 52:19
  Seriously.
• 52:20
  Did we mention last episode at all about, real quick, the rumor about Zhou?
• 52:24
  Zhou?
• 52:25
  Maybe Zhou?
• 52:26
  Sorry, that's what it was.
• 52:28
  Damn it.
• 52:29
  Zhou going to that second Haas seat at all?
• 52:31
  Oh, brought it up last week.
• 52:33
  Did we bring it up?
• 52:34
  Okay.
• 52:35
  I haven't heard any too much more traction.
• 52:36
  I haven't heard too much more either.
• 52:37
  I thought I saw it like officially as a rumor, like on F1's website.
• 52:40
  That dude does not deserve a seat in F1.
• 52:42
  At all?
• 52:43
  None at all?
• 52:44
  What has he done better than Sargent besides what?
• 52:45
  Did he score one or two points last year?
• 52:47
  He doesn't crash as much as Sargent.
• 52:48
  I would say he's better than Sargent, but he's not performing.
• 52:50
  Yeah.
• 52:51
  I just found it interesting.
• 52:52
  But is it hard to perform in that stake seat?
• 52:55
  I mean, I don't think it's been a great car.
• 52:58
  I mean, look at Bottas.
• 52:59
  I was going to say, look at the last time Bottas scored points.
• 53:02
  He's a skill driver.
• 53:03
  That's true.
• 53:04
  I don't know.
• 53:05
  I think it's really hard to determine if it's him or if it's the car.
• 53:06
  I personally would like to see him at Haas, but I could also see them maybe wanting someone
• 53:10
  a little bit more.
• 53:11
  Well, he is kind of like the veteran at this point.
• 53:13
  It's his third or fourth year driving, so he's not the veteran, but it's not a rookie.
• 53:18
  So he knows how to drive these tracks.
• 53:20
  He knows how to handle an F1 car.
• 53:22
  He's not going to be able to train Baermann in because we all know he's going to get the
• 53:24
  second seat.
• 53:25
  Right.
• 53:26
  But it's a safe option probably, I think.
• 53:31
  Or do they keep K-Mag?
• 53:32
  I don't know.
• 53:33
  And we're not even going to get into all that right now because we could keep going on forever.
• 53:36
  And that's another thing we could table for another time.
• 53:39
  Sure.
• 53:40
  When as an F1 team do you give up on a young driver?
• 53:42
  When is that time for you?
• 53:44
  And maybe it depends on where you are as a team at the time.
• 53:46
  You can afford to wait if you're a lower team to see if they develop.
• 53:50
  But I think that could be a topic for another time too.
• 53:52
  When do you move on?
• 53:55
  Real quick, last bit of news.
• 53:56
  Unless anybody, Cole, do you have anything else from the dark web?
• 54:00
  I got two quick ones.
• 54:01
  Do we actually?
• 54:02
  Sprint races every race.
• 54:04
  The maximum of 25.
• 54:06
  No.
• 54:07
  Dark web, baby.
• 54:08
  Dark web, huh?
• 54:09
  No.
• 54:10
  I don't like that at all.
• 54:11
  It's because of the dominance of Red Bull.
• 54:12
  That's why it's been in discussion is sprint races every race.
• 54:15
  Wait a couple years before we even think about that.
• 54:18
  But the last thing I think we've got to bring it up, the McLaren livery.
• 54:20
  I know, yeah, 100%.
• 54:21
  Santa livery is so good.
• 54:22
  That was the last thing.
• 54:23
  100%.
• 54:24
  The McLaren livery looks good.
• 54:27
  Other than the freaking...
• 54:28
  Oh, it looks so clean.
• 54:29
  And I know, like we talked about it before, the chrome wheels have to be on there.
• 54:31
  I get it.
• 54:32
  I hate that garbage because with the regular orange livery looks great, honestly.
• 54:39
  It doesn't look that bad.
• 54:40
  But with the Santa thing, it's just...
• 54:42
  I hate those wheels.
• 54:43
  Just one race, honey.
• 54:44
  I'm okay with it.
• 54:45
  One race, take that garbage off.
• 54:46
  I think, hey, at least it's not the Ferrari completely blue wheels that we saw last race.
• 54:51
  That was...
• 54:52
  Not last race, but the race before.
• 54:53
  That was awesome.
• 54:54
  That car was so ugly.
• 54:55
  It was so bad.
• 54:56
  Clash City.
• 54:57
  Yeah.
• 54:58
  Just like the chrome wheels on the Santa livery.
• 55:00
  But the livery looks freaking awesome.
• 55:03
  I mean, it's...
• 55:04
  It looks clean, man.
• 55:05
  Dude, it looks really good.
• 55:06
  That'll be fun to see at Monaco.
• 55:08
  It's just fun.
• 55:09
  It's just fun.
• 55:11
  With that, let's just wrap the news and head right into our preview of Monaco.
• 55:41
  Let's just head right into the Monaco preview, of course.
• 55:56
  Big money Monaco for your average annual income according to whatever, worlddata.info.
• 56:03
  I have no idea if that's relevant or not.
• 56:06
  It's 186,000 US dollars a year.
• 56:09
  Yeah, whatever.
• 56:10
  A lot of money.
• 56:11
  Joe, jeez, sorry.
• 56:12
  Hi.
• 56:13
  I was trying to figure out your name staring at you.
• 56:16
  I was like, what is your name?
• 56:18
  Joe, do your thing, homie.
• 56:20
  Yeah.
• 56:21
  Monaco, I do know that fact as well.
• 56:23
  It helps that they're such a small entity that not a lot of people, when they're really
• 56:27
  rich, it's going to boost them up a bit.
• 56:29
  For sure.
• 56:30
  It's funny, we were talking a little bit beforehand and I think most of us are of the same mind,
• 56:34
  happy to have a conversation, but we all kind of...
• 56:37
  I should say we all, Tyler and I were talking about it a little bit.
• 56:41
  We kind of think it's a little bit boring.
• 56:43
  Last year was a little hectic, but overall I've definitely had a race or two at Monaco
• 56:46
  where I've fallen asleep maybe.
• 56:49
  I don't know, what do you guys think?
• 56:50
  It's such a boring race.
• 56:52
  It's historic, it's the pinnacle, whatever you want to call it, but it's like there's
• 56:57
  one place to pass, you don't see it because you can't get that DRS activated in time coming
• 57:03
  in through that last little bit.
• 57:06
  It's all qualifying.
• 57:07
  It is all qualifying.
• 57:08
  It's just time trials, man.
• 57:11
  The start is cool, and if we can get JLo on the big screen, I like that.
• 57:14
  Word.
• 57:15
  Other than that, I'm Gucci, I'll just chill back.
• 57:20
  It is a glorified time trial, that is what it feels like.
• 57:23
  I know for me anyway, again, suck a** at it, but playing the video game, Monaco is intense
• 57:31
  dude for my first couple laps, and then I'm out of the race because I hit a wall anyway
• 57:35
  and my wheels go flying off and whatever, but as far as fun, at least in the game anyway,
• 57:42
  I love that track, I wish I could race it better, and then you add in another 19 cars,
• 57:47
  pure carnage from me, but you know what I mean?
• 57:51
  Yeah dude, that track just dominated me.
• 57:52
  But as far as boring, just seeing the skill of the drivers is dope, but that's it dude,
• 57:59
  that's all you get.
• 58:00
  You get that in qualifying, I don't need what, 70 laps of it?
• 58:05
  Maybe a sneak peek on a yacht or something, something's going on, who knows, party's going
• 58:10
  on, you never know, but other than that, that's it man.
• 58:13
  But Joe, sorry, go for it.
• 58:14
  No, no, no, it's good, it's good, it's good.
• 58:16
  Yeah, I wasn't expecting to have a ton of talk about, but it was actually pretty crazy
• 58:20
  last year, so we'll just jump into it.
• 58:23
  Monaco, the Formula One Grand Prix de Monaco, 2024 is the official name, I'm going to start
• 58:29
  doing that every single recap, I'm going to say the official name because we got some
• 58:31
  crazy ones.
• 58:33
  So fun facts to start off, Monaco is one of the seven venues on the inaugural F1 World
• 58:38
  Championship calendar back in 1950.
• 58:41
  Now the track actually goes back further than that, but it was private F1 races.
• 58:46
  The actual World Championship, this is one of the seven that was that year.
• 58:50
  Do you know, has it always been the same track, the same configuration?
• 58:57
  For the most part it has been, there have been a few changes here and there.
• 59:00
  Like if you look back and forth, I think we've seen videos of like, if you were to take away
• 59:05
  all the barriers or go back in time, it's pretty much the same.
• 59:09
  I think they've changed a few things here or there, but I don't, like that huge curve
• 59:14
  out of the tunnel, I don't know if that was originally there.
• 59:17
  I don't think there was that chicane at that turn, I think that was just a straight shot
• 59:21
  back in the day.
• 59:22
  Yeah, I think so too.
• 59:23
  So that's, I think that that's probably one of the biggest changes.
• 59:26
  Sure left that puppy in.
• 59:29
  Yeah.
• 59:30
  Other than, yeah, other than the race, it's a glitz and glam circuit, like you kind of,
• 59:34
  you kind of said, unfortunately can drag on a little bit during the race with how narrow
• 59:37
  the track is, limited with overtaking.
• 59:39
  So yeah, we've already said all this quality is all the more important.
• 59:43
  Last year was the year where we saw a Checo actually crash in qualifying.
• 59:49
  The year before that, Checo crashed in qualifying and ruined Verstappen's qualifying and we
• 59:54
  had a little bit of drama there.
• 59:56
  Is that when Leclerc got pulled and then on the outlier, the formation lap, his engine
• 1:00:00
  cut?
• 1:00:01
  This was, this was, no, I think that was, I think it actually was.
• 1:00:04
  I think that is the same race.
• 1:00:07
  Because he did last year, he didn't get pulled, that was Verstappen, but the two years before
• 1:00:11
  that he did get pulled.
• 1:00:12
  Cause that was when Perez did it and then like Sians ended up like almost hitting him
• 1:00:16
  and got sideways so they had to red flag it.
• 1:00:18
  Yes, that's exactly what happened.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  And then, yeah, I think Charles, he had an engine problem last year and then the year
• 1:00:23
  before that it started to rain.
• 1:00:25
  And they brought him into the pits and I think they messed up his strategy altogether.
• 1:00:29
  Or they pit him too early or too late or something like that.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah, so the start Verstappen, Alonso and Ocon, Sergio Perez, like I said, crashed.
• 1:00:38
  He started in 20th.
• 1:00:40
  Charles did receive a three place grid penalty cause he impeded one of the McLaren's drivers,
• 1:00:45
  one of the McLaren drivers who both started 10th and 11th.
• 1:00:48
  And then both Alpines in the top 10.
• 1:00:50
  Very different.
• 1:00:51
  I don't think we're going to see that this weekend.
• 1:00:52
  No way.
• 1:00:53
  Not a chance.
• 1:00:54
  Maybe.
• 1:00:55
  Maybe they'll get him.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  I don't think we'll see that.
• 1:00:58
  Oh, definitely not.
• 1:00:59
  No, that's, that's, oh, that's real.
• 1:01:00
  25, 30 years?
• 1:01:01
  26?
• 1:01:02
  No, new race?
• 1:01:03
  Oh, snap.
• 1:01:04
  Maybe, maybe they get it together.
• 1:01:05
  Probably not, but we'll see.
• 1:01:06
  All right.
• 1:01:07
  Jumping into the race.
• 1:01:08
  We see actually a clean turn one start of the race.
• 1:01:10
  The only trouble that we see in the first lap coming further down the grid with a Haas
• 1:01:14
  bumping into a Williams, causing a momentary yellow flag and then cars almost completely
• 1:01:18
  parking at the hairpin.
• 1:01:19
  We still see Perez in last.
• 1:01:21
  I wrote this down.
• 1:01:22
  It's the slowest I've ever seen a Red Bull go before.
• 1:01:24
  Like he was almost like stopped at that hairpin.
• 1:01:27
  At the end of a first lap, Hulkenberg is up four places and strolls down four after taking
• 1:01:31
  some damage and a puncture.
• 1:01:33
  In lap 11, we saw Verstappen three seconds ahead of Alonso, who was almost 10 seconds
• 1:01:37
  ahead of Ocon with Sines fighting behind.
• 1:01:40
  Sines looking to push Ocon to use his tires more to get a little too close.
• 1:01:44
  The same exact kind of corner where they went straight all those years ago.
• 1:01:49
  Sines got a little bit too close, broke a little bit too late, ran right into the back
• 1:01:52
  of Ocon, got his wing stuck underneath Ocon's tire, had to get a, had to go into the pits.
• 1:01:58
  Actually, no, he didn't go into the pits.
• 1:01:59
  Sorry.
• 1:02:00
  I should stick to my notes.
• 1:02:01
  He got wing damage, but it was only that end plate and it didn't affect his race too much.
• 1:02:05
  So he raced the entire race on a damaged wing.
• 1:02:07
  Which is crazy to race Monaco on a damaged wing.
• 1:02:10
  Last year and the year before, I saw like through many races, wing, like end plate wings
• 1:02:16
  getting damaged or coming off and it not really affecting pace very much.
• 1:02:19
  I don't know if that's changed this year, but kind of something that I've noted and
• 1:02:23
  seen before.
• 1:02:24
  I don't know anything about aerodynamics, but I feel like if something's supposed to
• 1:02:27
  be there, you probably want it.
• 1:02:28
  You probably want it.
• 1:02:29
  Didn't that happen to Maxis here in one of his wins?
• 1:02:32
  I don't remember.
• 1:02:34
  I'm not sure.
• 1:02:35
  I don't think Maxis had any crazy damage except the possible.
• 1:02:38
  He's barely been close enough to people to damage his stuff.
• 1:02:40
  Oh, except of course with the brakes exploding in Australia, but yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Oh, that's right.
• 1:02:47
  Lap 30, we actually see Verstappen starting to lap the bottom half of the grid.
• 1:02:51
  We start to see the start of pit stop windows.
• 1:02:53
  Okan pits on lap 33 for a slow 4.2 seconds.
• 1:02:58
  Luckily he was able to stay ahead by only one second ahead of Sainz.
• 1:03:03
  We hear Sainz status to pleasure to his engineers on strategy and he's unable to make that
• 1:03:08
  gap back up to Okan.
• 1:03:10
  Perez's day gets worse on lap 36 when he gets a bit too close to Magnussen and ruins
• 1:03:14
  his wing under the Haas's back tire.
• 1:03:16
  Sainz is forcing his weight race further and forcing him into the pits for a wing change.
• 1:03:20
  This is when we start to see the rain begin to fall in lap 51.
• 1:03:24
  Cars are being affected by it.
• 1:03:25
  Lake brakes sliding off, losing the back end, but only in specific parts of the track.
• 1:03:30
  At the very start I think it was raining like in the first half and the bottom half was
• 1:03:34
  ok.
• 1:03:36
  This created a very interesting mixed condition scenario.
• 1:03:39
  We saw Lonzo go in for a new mediums instead of interns.
• 1:03:45
  At this point we have about 5 cars that are on the inters of Moore starting to feed into
• 1:03:49
  the pit lane for a change of tire.
• 1:03:51
  Sainz unfortunately was not one of those drivers.
• 1:03:54
  He did another lap on the drys.
• 1:03:59
  Didn't spin out but definitely got sideways before the hairpin.
• 1:04:03
  Found his way into the runoff area and got a bit further.
• 1:04:07
  Lap 55 was a certified shitshow is what I have written here.
• 1:04:11
  Absolute carnage.
• 1:04:12
  The top 4 cars still on drys finally decided to go in for the inters except that there
• 1:04:16
  is one problem.
• 1:04:18
  Both Ferrari's fighting for position.
• 1:04:20
  They need to double stack into the pits.
• 1:04:22
  Leclerc gets his tires first and Sainz files in immediately after losing another position
• 1:04:27
  to the other Alpine of Gastly.
• 1:04:29
  All the while Alonzo pits again for inters and is able to retain his 2nd place position.
• 1:04:34
  Stroll in lap 58 he started playing bumper cars into 3 different walls, breaking his
• 1:04:37
  wing before finally deciding to pull off into a runoff area and retire.
• 1:04:41
  Magnussen the last driver on drys runs into the wall right before the pit and is able
• 1:04:44
  to back up and find his way in.
• 1:04:46
  I believe he retires there.
• 1:04:48
  George is given a penalty on lap 60 for an unsafe rejoin when he backs out of a runoff
• 1:04:52
  area and right into Pérez.
• 1:04:53
  We actually see George go up into the air.
• 1:04:55
  Then we see a couple small more bumps into walls and runoffs for the remaining laps of
• 1:04:59
  the 78 lap race.
• 1:05:01
  We finally find the finish line into a very hectic Monaco GP for Stappen, Alonzo, Ocon,
• 1:05:06
  Hamilton and then Russell.
• 1:05:07
  Stroll and Magnussen weirdly the only ones to retire that whole race but it was a little
• 1:05:12
  crazy.
• 1:05:13
  I don't remember it being that crazy last year.
• 1:05:15
  No that was a lot but I think when it rains in the middle of a race like that, that's
• 1:05:20
  gotta just throw, obviously you have plan A through Z right probably but that's just
• 1:05:24
  gotta throw your whole strategy out.
• 1:05:26
  Especially in Monaco.
• 1:05:27
  I think the problem is that like you said before 70 laps it's a long race right?
• 1:05:31
  It is a long race.
• 1:05:32
  I think we have these little bubbles of action happening and then we just get a whole lot
• 1:05:38
  of nothing for a little bit.
• 1:05:39
  My notes start at 1 and the next note is at lap 11.
• 1:05:43
  Your last bit of your notes where everybody bumping and hitting the wall?
• 1:05:47
  Might as well be me out there you know what I mean?
• 1:05:50
  This is the worst track to race in the game.
• 1:05:53
  It's so bad.
• 1:05:54
  It's so hard.
• 1:05:55
  It's so bad.
• 1:05:56
  Me and Tyler would play so much.
• 1:05:57
  We'd just be ripping around.
• 1:05:58
  I'm like dude I just ripped this time.
• 1:06:00
  You rip one lap with a good time you're just ecstatic.
• 1:06:03
  And you get into a race you get a lap in and you're like DNF how you doing?
• 1:06:08
  Pretty much.
• 1:06:09
  Welcome to my party buddy.
• 1:06:10
  I've had one race win in Monaco and it was when I was playing with the season with Kevdog
• 1:06:14
  and the difficulty is a lot lower than it should be so I was like B1.
• 1:06:18
  Pretty sure I lost my full wing.
• 1:06:20
  Even that I feel good.
• 1:06:21
  Even in the race.
• 1:06:22
  Did you box for a new wing or did you run the damaged wing?
• 1:06:26
  We just slowed down.
• 1:06:27
  You can't get past so you just gotta slow down real good.
• 1:06:31
  Gotta slow down real good.
• 1:06:33
  Slow down real good.
• 1:06:36
  I mean I don't think we'll see as much carnage or just excitement.
• 1:06:42
  I can't even believe I said carnage normally.
• 1:06:44
  That's weird.
• 1:06:45
  I don't like that.
• 1:06:46
  We'll change it up.
• 1:06:47
  We'll change it up.
• 1:06:48
  Go edit that out.
• 1:06:49
  But like I don't think yeah we'll edit that.
• 1:06:51
  Just a blur of me go gah.
• 1:06:54
  No I don't think we'll see the Mercs finishing that high at all at Monaco this year.
• 1:06:59
  No way in heck.
• 1:07:00
  No way in heck.
• 1:07:03
  I do think that we could see Ferrari act a little better here this week and I think it's
• 1:07:08
  just because of how much of a challenge the track is as a whole.
• 1:07:12
  I don't think Ferrari's gonna have any better of a car or anything like that but I think
• 1:07:18
  Leclerc and Carlos are gonna have a bit more experience with Monaco's unpredictability
• 1:07:25
  as predictable as it may be.
• 1:07:27
  It still has a little bit of that unpredictability and I like Charles and Carlos' experience
• 1:07:33
  over Lando and Oscar.
• 1:07:36
  Again even though it feels like Lando's been racing F1 forever now but and he's racing
• 1:07:43
  at the top of his game right now.
• 1:07:44
  He's on his way up to the top of his game currently.
• 1:07:49
  I think Max still wins it but I think it's gonna be some battles between as battle-y
• 1:07:54
  as we get between McLaren and Ferrari this weekend.
• 1:07:57
  I don't know.
• 1:07:58
  And I do think Checo has a bounce back race this week.
• 1:08:02
  I'd say Checo's top five but I don't see him grabbing a podium.
• 1:08:06
  Really?
• 1:08:07
  You do not see Checo on the podium?
• 1:08:09
  I haven't had Checo on the podium for a hot minute in our predictions you know.
• 1:08:13
  I feel like just my gut is telling me that changes this weekend.
• 1:08:16
  I don't think this race man it's just though it would be if it was last year with the car's
• 1:08:22
  performance of last year across the grid I would say yeah.
• 1:08:26
  I would slot Checo into that second spot or at least third.
• 1:08:30
  This year with the way that McLaren is looking right now and the way that Charles can make
• 1:08:35
  a lap in this track I just I don't see Checo getting in front of Lando or Charles.
• 1:08:42
  I would agree.
• 1:08:43
  I don't think Checo's up there this week.
• 1:08:44
  Like I said four or five I could see him four or five I just don't see him grabbing a podium.
• 1:08:49
  For sure.
• 1:08:50
  I'm like I'm up in my mind right now I'm like obviously we're in new predictions here soon
• 1:08:54
  but like in my mind I'm kind of like obviously I'm at turbo-stepping in the top three but
• 1:08:58
  I might be looking at both Ferrari's this week I don't know.
• 1:09:01
  That's honestly that's where I'm going.
• 1:09:03
  I don't know.
• 1:09:04
  Before we even got into the predictions like that's where I'm going honestly taking a risk
• 1:09:08
  taking a chance.
• 1:09:09
  But I just again it's just for me it's the drivers this week and it's not taking anything
• 1:09:15
  away from Lando or Oscar and again Oscar was running a great race last week had a great
• 1:09:19
  quality.
• 1:09:21
  I just at Monaco specifically I'm right there.
• 1:09:27
  I'm going for Sapan and both Ferrari's and that's just a gut thing.
• 1:09:32
  This is a white whale.
• 1:09:34
  This track's a white whale.
• 1:09:35
  Kinda.
• 1:09:36
  Kinda?
• 1:09:37
  You know I mean there's so much that goes into it.
• 1:09:38
  I mean last year it was domination all year from Verstappen but to see Alonso and Ocon
• 1:09:45
  in the top three.
• 1:09:47
  That's crazy.
• 1:09:48
  It's weather conditions though.
• 1:09:49
  It's just a wild race too.
• 1:09:51
  It's weather conditions.
• 1:09:52
  If the weather comes into play this weekend is the only time I see you having a wild chase.
• 1:09:56
  So what is the weather this weekend in Monaco?
• 1:09:58
  I just checked.
• 1:10:00
  It is sunny on Sunday and we have 50% chance of rain on Saturday.
• 1:10:03
  So Saturday's qualifying.
• 1:10:04
  Huge though.
• 1:10:05
  Not as much.
• 1:10:08
  It doesn't matter as much as qualifying as it does race because the strategy wouldn't
• 1:10:12
  throw on different tires.
• 1:10:13
  But with qualifying though I mean.
• 1:10:15
  That's interesting though if it rains during quali though.
• 1:10:17
  If it rains during quali but everybody has a chance to get on the same tires and not
• 1:10:20
  be penalized.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah but there's also that switch of who's going to throw on what enters.
• 1:10:26
  Who's going to throw on who's going to swing off over a soft because there's so many different
• 1:10:29
  things.
• 1:10:30
  I don't know.
• 1:10:31
  That's risky business.
• 1:10:32
  I mean it's either a soft or an inner.
• 1:10:34
  It's a soft, wet or inner.
• 1:10:36
  You don't run anything but that in quali.
• 1:10:39
  But if it's also raining going into quali FIA is going to come in and limit all their
• 1:10:42
  tires.
• 1:10:43
  But so at the end of the day who can race best in those conditions?
• 1:10:46
  Lando has proven he's not bad in rain.
• 1:10:48
  Carlos is really good in the rain.
• 1:10:52
  I think that at least humanizes for Stappen a little bit if it rains during quali.
• 1:10:56
  It doesn't give him that much of an edge.
• 1:10:59
  Dang that's interesting.
• 1:11:00
  50% chance.
• 1:11:01
  Are we going to see those rain guards boys?
• 1:11:03
  Absolutely not.
• 1:11:04
  Absolutely not.
• 1:11:05
  It's 50% at around 12 and I think practice ends at 12.30 or starts at 12.30 so we might
• 1:11:13
  not even see rain during qualifying.
• 1:11:15
  I really want it just because I feel like it would be really interesting.
• 1:11:18
  We're still a few days away.
• 1:11:19
  We're still talking about the wind guards real quick.
• 1:11:22
  I saw a photo of LeClaire.
• 1:11:25
  It says Ferrari is trying out the new wind tunnels and it was just like you know those
• 1:11:29
  boats that ride in Florida in the bayou.
• 1:11:32
  Did you see that behind him in the car?
• 1:11:36
  That's so funny.
• 1:11:39
  Joe what's your podium?
• 1:11:42
  This is a tough one.
• 1:11:43
  Don't be a McLaren fanboy.
• 1:11:45
  I'm unfortunately going to be a McLaren fanboy.
• 1:11:47
  I...
• 1:11:48
  Both?
• 1:11:49
  No I don't think both.
• 1:11:50
  Do it.
• 1:11:51
  He's not a fanboy then.
• 1:11:53
  So I don't see Checo getting podium either.
• 1:11:57
  He won the race two years ago but he did so bad last year.
• 1:12:01
  Yes.
• 1:12:02
  His race win.
• 1:12:03
  Don't get me started.
• 1:12:04
  The RPMs bro.
• 1:12:05
  He did that on purpose.
• 1:12:06
  He crashed on purpose.
• 1:12:07
  Oh yeah the crash.
• 1:12:08
  Yeah I mean that's hearsay.
• 1:12:09
  Either way.
• 1:12:10
  No you can hear it.
• 1:12:11
  On the telemet... and on the telemetry you can see it.
• 1:12:16
  You can see it homie.
• 1:12:18
  I looked into that.
• 1:12:19
  You can see that.
• 1:12:21
  And hear it.
• 1:12:22
  Anyway sorry.
• 1:12:23
  So anyway I think...
• 1:12:24
  I don't get worked up about that at all.
• 1:12:26
  I'm getting Verstappen.
• 1:12:28
  I'm going to get Lando and I'm going to get Leclerc as well.
• 1:12:32
  Unfortunately just because it's kind of a meme now I don't think Leclerc is going to
• 1:12:36
  win his home race because it just... they just can't right?
• 1:12:40
  No there's a weird omen there that's just not going to happen.
• 1:12:42
  I could see Leclerc getting polled this weekend.
• 1:12:45
  I don't think he's going to win the race though.
• 1:12:47
  God if he gots polled I would cheer for him so hard dude.
• 1:12:51
  I don't hate Ferrari but I'm just not a Ferrari fan.
• 1:12:53
  I'm a Ferrari fan this year.
• 1:12:54
  I love Ferrari stuff and a lot of people like them so I hate them automatically.
• 1:12:58
  Same with Ripple.
• 1:12:59
  I was the same way.
• 1:13:00
  Last year I really didn't like Ferrari.
• 1:13:01
  I became a fan this year.
• 1:13:02
  But man it would be awesome to see Charles win there.
• 1:13:04
  It would be.
• 1:13:05
  Call me the Oregon Trail because next year when Lewis goes to Ferrari...
• 1:13:12
  Next year when Lewis goes to Ferrari I'm jumping on the bandwagon dude.
• 1:13:15
  I tell you that right now.
• 1:13:16
  Call me the Oregon Trail.
• 1:13:17
  I'm going to be nothing but red every day.
• 1:13:24
  That was so funny.
• 1:13:25
  That was money dude.
• 1:13:27
  So Cole's a Ferrari fan next year.
• 1:13:30
  So what's your official podium?
• 1:13:31
  I'm a Lewis fan.
• 1:13:32
  I just want to real quick before we jump into my podium first.
• 1:13:35
  I'm in dead last right now.
• 1:13:36
  Can I go last?
• 1:13:38
  I think the dead last person is really good.
• 1:13:39
  We'll give an update on that real quick.
• 1:13:40
  Did I go last every time I was in last?
• 1:13:43
  I don't know.
• 1:13:44
  We've kind of been random.
• 1:13:45
  So to bring that up.
• 1:13:46
  So everybody got two points last week except for Smelty who got three.
• 1:13:52
  So Joe and I are currently tied at 13.
• 1:13:54
  Smelty's at 12 and Cole's bringing up the rear at 11.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah but you're at 11 though.
• 1:13:59
  Two points from first to fourth.
• 1:14:01
  See this is what the constructors should look like.
• 1:14:04
  This close.
• 1:14:05
  That would be fun.
• 1:14:06
  Hey I'm just running out there.
• 1:14:07
  Can we take a vote real quick?
• 1:14:09
  I go last.
• 1:14:10
  Looks like you're going right now buddy.
• 1:14:13
  Alright I'll hop in here.
• 1:14:16
  So I'm going to mimic Joe's podium.
• 1:14:19
  I got Verstappen, Lando and Leclair this week.
• 1:14:22
  It's going to be the same podium as the last two races.
• 1:14:24
  Not too exciting in that regard.
• 1:14:27
  But I think Leclair, he races this so if the team can get a car underneath him it's his
• 1:14:33
  track.
• 1:14:34
  100%.
• 1:14:35
  I think the McLaren's just too quick for Lando not to qualify top three.
• 1:14:38
  And Verstappen's.
• 1:14:39
  Wait wait wait you said McLaren's too quick?
• 1:14:43
  McLaren's quick to not qualify for Lando to qualify.
• 1:14:46
  For Lando to not qualify top three.
• 1:14:48
  It's too quick, got it.
• 1:14:51
  I got you here.
• 1:14:52
  Nobody else left so.
• 1:14:54
  I'm, I'm, I'm.
• 1:14:55
  I guess you could go if you want.
• 1:14:57
  I'm going with the enemy this week okay.
• 1:15:00
  I'm going to do Verstappen, Checo, Leclair.
• 1:15:03
  Whoa.
• 1:15:04
  Man that's crazy maybe he knows something.
• 1:15:06
  Checo is really good at street races, street courses.
• 1:15:11
  But I don't know man this is such a.
• 1:15:13
  My gut coming in tonight was also to take Checo.
• 1:15:16
  100%.
• 1:15:17
  He just didn't look good last week.
• 1:15:18
  Usually he rebounds but that has not been the case this year.
• 1:15:21
  Yeah I've been taking Checo, I mean you can check, I've been taking Checo a lot.
• 1:15:25
  This is literally Joe's second time not taking Checo this year for the record.
• 1:15:29
  I just think after seeing last race I think it's like a turning point.
• 1:15:32
  I just think the rest of the season's going to look a little, a little worse for him.
• 1:15:35
  He's still going to get podiums.
• 1:15:36
  I'm not getting it wrong.
• 1:15:37
  No go ahead Spellzi.
• 1:15:39
  Just real quick every race we mentioned that this is a bounce back race for Checo it never
• 1:15:43
  happens.
• 1:15:44
  That's the thing.
• 1:15:45
  So far.
• 1:15:46
  Which is weird.
• 1:15:47
  So, so you mister that Checo's in the Red Bull seat 100% next year I just don't buy
• 1:15:52
  it.
• 1:15:53
  I just don't see who, the only person I could see filling that seat would be Sians and they
• 1:15:58
  just don't have enough to offer.
• 1:16:00
  I'm with Tyler.
• 1:16:01
  I think, I think yeah.
• 1:16:03
  Checo's getting the seat because there's no one else to take it.
• 1:16:06
  At the end of the day the dude's still P2 in the construction.
• 1:16:09
  Well for sure.
• 1:16:10
  Very sorry WDC.
• 1:16:11
  But it's similar to the boat toss with Lewis thing.
• 1:16:13
  Nobody looks at the second guy.
• 1:16:14
  They know he's there, they know he's a skilled driver but nobody really pays attention to
• 1:16:17
  him.
• 1:16:18
  I think Checo falls into that a little bit.
• 1:16:21
  Red Bull does.
• 1:16:22
  People might not, Red Bull does.
• 1:16:23
  I mean the only, the only reason.
• 1:16:24
  So if they do they're disappointed with his performance.
• 1:16:27
  I'm sorry Checo did actually fall out of the top two spot last week Leclerc Plast passed
• 1:16:31
  him.
• 1:16:32
  So Checo is now third in the WDC.
• 1:16:35
  And interesting.
• 1:16:36
  At the end I talked about this with Tyler.
• 1:16:38
  I don't think that Perez, I think he's at fifth this year.
• 1:16:42
  I think he's at fifth in the drivers this year.
• 1:16:44
  But hey he's not.
• 1:16:45
  I think you said that even early on in the season.
• 1:16:47
  I did.
• 1:16:48
  I did.
• 1:16:49
  You said he was out of the fifth, out of five.
• 1:16:51
  Alright I'll say sixth still.
• 1:16:52
  I'll still admit to that.
• 1:16:53
  I mean he's 12 points away from dropping under Lando to go into fifth.
• 1:16:57
  I don't think he's up there.
• 1:16:58
  Sorry he's six points.
• 1:16:59
  I said this episode one.
• 1:17:01
  For fourth.
• 1:17:02
  So I guess no.
• 1:17:03
  So I said this episode one.
• 1:17:04
  Too many numbers again.
• 1:17:05
  He's not in the top five.
• 1:17:07
  But I mean as everybody knows, the fans know, we're ten bands in each on this.
• 1:17:12
  The points spread at the end of the year.
• 1:17:14
  So I mean I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking the dark horse.
• 1:17:19
  I gotta take Perez.
• 1:17:21
  Checo's going up there.
• 1:17:22
  He's getting, he's getting three.
• 1:17:24
  Leclerc's getting two.
• 1:17:25
  I agree with you Smeltie.
• 1:17:26
  I think Leclerc might be able to take the pole on this one.
• 1:17:30
  I, if he gets a good chance at the pole.
• 1:17:34
  I would, I'm rooting for him so hard to win the race.
• 1:17:38
  But just with the past and Leclerc at Monaco specifically, it's just, it doesn't track
• 1:17:45
  that way for him to get a dub.
• 1:17:47
  Even with the pole.
• 1:17:48
  I mean, I'll kind of throw this out.
• 1:17:50
  Are we going to see a Ferrari strategy mix up like we have the past two years?
• 1:17:54
  Because that's pretty much what ruined his races.
• 1:17:57
  We haven't seen that all year this year.
• 1:17:58
  You're right.
• 1:17:59
  It's been a good year.
• 1:18:00
  The only issue it wasn't strategy is they couldn't just put the car under.
• 1:18:03
  Real quick, and then.
• 1:18:04
  He didn't even get to strategy.
• 1:18:05
  Two years ago he got pole and then he got messed up on pit strategy.
• 1:18:09
  Two years ago is when he got the pole and he, his engine killed on the formation lap.
• 1:18:14
  Oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:18:15
  Three years ago.
• 1:18:16
  Two years ago they put water in his engine.
• 1:18:17
  Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  That's right.
• 1:18:19
  Real quick, obviously we're all team principals here, but when do you actually decide the
• 1:18:26
  race strategy for your cars going into the GP?
• 1:18:29
  Is that?
• 1:18:30
  Oh, weeks.
• 1:18:31
  Is that weeks in advance?
• 1:18:32
  100%.
• 1:18:33
  But then you modify it during practice.
• 1:18:37
  This is where, this is where we talked about earlier in this episode, this is where Ferrari
• 1:18:40
  does it right.
• 1:18:41
  They do it real time.
• 1:18:42
  Who is performing well that race?
• 1:18:44
  Well, I think he's asking a different question.
• 1:18:46
  There's like the strategy.
• 1:18:47
  Going into the race.
• 1:18:48
  Because they're both going to have like.
• 1:18:49
  When the GP starts, if your two drivers are going to have two different strategies, when
• 1:18:52
  does that get decided?
• 1:18:53
  But they talk about that.
• 1:18:54
  Okay.
• 1:18:55
  So that's a different thing.
• 1:18:56
  Let's go to B. Let's go to B. Let's go to C. Strategy B. Like there's so many strategies.
• 1:18:59
  I think they come in here with a ton of strategies for every circumstance that pops up.
• 1:19:03
  So that mean like weeks.
• 1:19:04
  Obviously they do obviously all change.
• 1:19:05
  Weeks in advance there's a ton of strategies that go into this race with, but I think real
• 1:19:10
  time you only really know what you know when you're in the race.
• 1:19:12
  But like your plan A, when do you think you decide that?
• 1:19:15
  So that I think is like, so I think you have like the strategies A through M, whatever
• 1:19:20
  it is.
• 1:19:21
  And they're the same for both drivers.
• 1:19:22
  Well, the alphabet's A through Z.
• 1:19:23
  Well, I don't think they have 26.
• 1:19:24
  I know.
• 1:19:25
  I know.
• 1:19:26
  I know.
• 1:19:27
  That's what I was.
• 1:19:28
  I mean, if you know something's wrong.
• 1:19:29
  If you know something's wrong, then you know something's wrong.
• 1:19:30
  You never know.
• 1:19:31
  You never know.
• 1:19:32
  I mean, with Ferrari, they might have a pretty wrong alphabet for all of you.
• 1:19:33
  Hey, I just want to make sure.
• 1:19:34
  I don't know my one, two, threes tonight.
• 1:19:35
  I want to make sure you know your ABC.
• 1:19:36
  Yeah, if you hear the engineer saying we're going with plan Z, something went very wrong.
• 1:19:41
  Again, I just got thrown in there.
• 1:19:42
  Public schools, maybe.
• 1:19:43
  That's top of his class, valedictorian right there.
• 1:19:47
  I did go to public school.
• 1:19:49
  I think to answer your question, I think they have those strategies and they're the same
• 1:19:53
  for each driver going into it.
• 1:19:55
  And then when they make that decision comes down to practice, qualifying and then how
• 1:19:59
  the races go.
• 1:20:00
  Sure.
• 1:20:01
  So I think you have a strategy in mind going what you're going to think and then how practice
• 1:20:04
  goes, how you qualify.
• 1:20:05
  And then it comes down to like what tires you start with.
• 1:20:08
  For sure.
• 1:20:09
  So there's.
• 1:20:10
  And that's what I mean.
• 1:20:11
  Does.
• 1:20:12
  And boy, we really got to end this.
• 1:20:13
  But does but does plan a change like in practice going into practice three, you got planning
• 1:20:17
  and what your stuff you're going to run during practice and blah, blah, blah, whatever sessions
• 1:20:20
  you're doing.
• 1:20:21
  Does plan a change from that practice to what plan a is in the in the GP then?
• 1:20:27
  I think it does.
• 1:20:28
  You know, and you modify it that way and then B and C and D and so on to M or Z, whatever,
• 1:20:34
  whenever your alphabet ends.
• 1:20:35
  Obviously, obviously a big, you know, that changes.
• 1:20:38
  Big fan this year, Danica Patrick.
• 1:20:39
  I have her on speed dialog.
• 1:20:40
  I'll give her a call after this and we'll update next episode.
• 1:20:43
  That doesn't surprise me.
• 1:20:44
  We appreciate that.
• 1:20:45
  That's why we're getting a NASCAR driver involved.
• 1:20:47
  He just survived, baby.
• 1:20:50
  He just got to mention somebody.
• 1:20:51
  She was on Drought.
• 1:20:52
  Why was she on Drought?
• 1:20:53
  I know the answer, but we don't have time to talk about it.
• 1:21:00
  We'll throw it in the news next week.
• 1:21:01
  Sure.
• 1:21:02
  OK, I'll throw Danica Patrick in the news next week.
• 1:21:06
  And everybody will be just as surprised as Drives to Survive fans.
• 1:21:09
  What are we doing?
• 1:21:10
  Is this fast laps?
• 1:21:12
  Oh, man.
• 1:21:13
  With that, let's just let's just wrap it up.
• 1:21:15
  Hopefully, as always, like, comment, subscribe, definitely subscribe on YouTube.
• 1:21:22
  We do have a show next week as we will be wrapping Monaco and previewing what?
• 1:21:28
  What is after Monaco?
• 1:21:29
  I can't remember.
• 1:21:30
  I'm not actually sure.
• 1:21:31
  Hold, please.
• 1:21:32
  Hold.
• 1:21:33
  Canada.
• 1:21:34
  Canada.
• 1:21:35
  Canada.
• 1:21:36
  That's right.
• 1:21:37
  It's a fun track and I've won.
• 1:21:38
  I think that's a good track for Checo.
• 1:21:41
  It's not a street track.
• 1:21:43
  No, it's a good track.
• 1:21:44
  That's a good track for McLaren.
• 1:21:45
  Watch out.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, I think I agree.
• 1:21:47
  I think that's going to be a good track for McLaren.
• 1:21:49
  Well, a lot of fast corners.
• 1:21:50
  Again with that, you know, again, like, comment, subscribe again.
• 1:21:54
  One more thanks to Kev behind the cameras making this all happen.
• 1:21:57
  Thanks, Kev.
• 1:21:58
  Yeah, I mean, with that, we'll just we'll just be back next week.
• 1:22:02
  Oh, see you guys later.
• 1:22:05
  Ding.
• 1:22:06
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• 1:22:10
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